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Joel Leppard is the attorney for two women who testified before the House Ethics Committee about former Rep. Matt Gaetz's conduct. Leppard said his clients told the committee that they were paid to have sex with Gaetz. One woman testified she witnessed Gaetz having sex with a… pic.twitter.com/t9tPUSS8Yo
— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 18, 2024
BREAKING: An attorney representing two women who testified before the House Ethics Committee says former Rep. Matt Gaetz paid both of his adult clients for sex.
Gaetz is President-elect Donald Trump's pick for attorney general.https://t.co/tv4eWTjKSQ pic.twitter.com/ipvC7WKNmg
— ABC News Live (@ABCNewsLive) November 18, 2024
The Justice Department never went after people for hookers before, because if people start going after their political enemies for hookers, and if paying hookers is a nonstarter, the whole government is going to come crashing down.
But I guess those rules are off the table now and the Democrats are just hoping that this doesn’t come back on them.
Two women interviewed by the House Ethics Committee about former GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to be attorney general, testified that Gaetz paid them directly and repeatedly in Venmo transactions “for sex,” and that those transactions were obtained by the committee, an attorney for the women told CBS News. The attorney, Joel Leppard, also said the women testified that Gaetz inquired in text messages about “party favors” and “vitamins” at upcoming parties, which was understood to be code for drugs.
Leppard, who is based in Orlando, said his clients testified that they attended parties from 2017 to January 2019 where Gaetz was present and sex and drug use took place. In an interview Monday with CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett, Leppard said one of his clients testified before the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Gaetz having sex with a 17-year-old girl against a game table at a July 2017 party. Gaetz was sworn into Congress in January 2017, so all of the events the women allege took place while he was a member of the House.
Officials with the Trump transition team did not respond to requests for comment Monday. One source familiar with Gaetz’s legal position questioned the credibility of the women and argued their recollections would not have withstood cross examination in court, had it come to that.
Gaetz, who has denied all wrongdoing, including having sex with a minor, has blasted the committee’s investigation against him and on Thursday called the testimony about him a “false smear.”
Gaetz’s conduct was also investigated by federal prosecutors, but they ended the probe in 2023 without filing charges.
That’s really the bottom line here. If they could have gotten him on something, they would have. They were really trying to. That really proves nothing happened.
That fat Irish slob Kavanagh, the SCOTUS judge, had never even been investigated for everything and they turned weird sex rumors into the entire confirmation hearing. Eventually, he was confirmed, presumably because most people in the government don’t want this sex stuff being at the core of the political discussion.
What is even the relevance of this sex material? People will say “it speaks to character,” but do people with good character not have sex? Is this a puritan society?
As the House Ethics Committee weighs whether to release its report, which investigated allegations that Gaetz engaged in sexual misconduct, illicit drug use and bribery, Leppard said his clients want the public to know they are telling the truth.
One of his clients said in a text to Leppard, “‘Regardless of how many times he tries to distract from the truth, the public deserves to know that what we all experienced was real and actually happened.’”
Why does the public deserve to know about this guy’s sex life?
What is the rationale here?
Do we live in an ultra-puritan nation, or a country that literally celebrates gay orgies and promotes child homosexuality?
Who is kidding who here?
“My clients are not political; they didn’t vote in the last two elections — they don’t care one way or another,” Leppard told Garrett. “But they do want the public to know that they are not lying. They did not come forward willingly — they have never spoken to anyone without a force of a legal subpoena.”
He continued, “And if the American people would know, then they could decide if that’s the person they want to be the next attorney general.”
Personally, I would support all politicians being either incels or celibate monks.
I’m pretty sure that’s not the country we’re living in.
One of Leppard’s clients is among at least four women who have told the committee they were paid to attend parties with drugs and sex where Gaetz was present, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter. Her account corroborates the testimony of the then-minor, who told the committee that she had sex with Gaetz when she was 17 years old.
At the July 2017 party where his client alleges this occurred, Leppard said she and others were “at the party in order to provide entertainment, to be happy, to be lively and provide sexual favors for the gentlemen that were present.”
“The expectation was that they would have sexual intercourse,” Leppard said his clients testified about these parties. “They testified to the House that — and the House actually had their Venmo transactions, PayPal transactions, of Representative Gaetz.”
This could all be made up. My thinking is that he did have sex with some women at parties, but none of them were “underage.” It seems likely there are Venmo transactions. That is something they couldn’t just lie about if they actually want the information to come out. But the fact that charges were never pressed means the girls were all over 18, which makes this all meaningless, and just a puritan witch hunt, which again, does not make sense in the most degenerate society ever in history.
“The mothers at tranny story time were outraged to learn Gaetz had sex with women.”
This is ridiculous.
Navarro: Bill Clinton had two AG nominees who had to withdraw because they had employed illegal nannies. Matt Gaetz is accused of sleeping with a girl who's almost young enough to need a nanny pic.twitter.com/XADsEgsVBQ
— Acyn (@Acyn) November 19, 2024
Elvis Dunderhoff contributed to this article.
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See the Wikipedia article, “Bill Clinton sexual assault and misconduct allegations.” There are quite a few. Remember he was nominated twice by the Dems and elected twice in democratic elections.
This is what happens when you have females involved in politics. Everything turns into rape accusations, prostitute accusations, “age gap” accusations, etc.
No idea if these allegations are true — but the related investigation is not new (it began during the Trump administration), and with this kind of thing, where there’s smoke there’s usually fire — and there seems to be a lot of smoke here.
>Do we live in an ultra-puritan nation
It isn’t ‘puritanism’ to expect members of Congress will uphold a certain moral standard, and most would agree that paying for sex falls below that moral standard, in addition to being an illegal activity almost everywhere in the US (what Gaetz is alleged to have done, paying for sex, is illegal everywhere except Nevada) — to condone this is another kind of incremental tolerance, and regarding aberrant sexuality generally, it’s clear where that leads (faggot marriage, transsexualism, etc).
It doesn’t say where these acts allegedly occurred — assuming in Florida, per the above, prostitution is illegal in FL, albeit it’s a misdemeanor.
I understand Trump is probably grateful to Gaetz for his support, and likes what he did in the House — but Gaetz lacks gravitas, and for that reason alone should never have been nominated.
Trump is such a clown.
Any politician who sticks their genitals inside a living breathing creature is a disgusting degenerate who must never be allowed to hold any public office.
But this is fine:
https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1858771843290681480
When do the rape accusations start?
I imagine before he’s confirmed the libs will swear to have video of him decapitating babies after taking them out of their incubators and tossing the carcass on the ground. He also has weapons of mass destruction hidden in his garage.
It is gobsmackingly hilarious that the party of Epstein Island and Poop Diddy have issues w/ someone allegedly banging a 17-year old hooker, but I’d digress.
Maybe its just me without personal knowledge of such transactions, but why would ANYONE use digital transactions for sex? Cash????
You’ve got the wrong (where there’s smoke, there’s fire) metaphor about these now de rigueur Democrat accusations, which are as believable as spontaneous combustion. The smoke metaphor you’re looking for is the Democrats once again blowing smoke out their asses.
more us empire psy ops
Did Gaetz get played. He already resigned from congress I thought.
Actually, this is nonsense to entertain readers and not to mention the 20,000 children killed by 5,000-pound bombs given to the Zionists by American voters.
Attila, Genghis Khan and Hitler were not capable of doing such a thing.
Gaetz’s response was pretty epic:
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1839341409582846196/photo/1
Anybody still remember Madison Cawthorn? The Republican in a wheelchair from North Carolina who was hyped as a symbol of the conservative youth movement. He got to Washington and was invited to a sex and drug orgy by a supposedly conservative politician whom he would not name. He went public about it complaining he didn’t think that was how conservatives should be acting. Washington and the media went into a bipartisan blitzkrieg against his character. They stripped him of his committees and funding, came up with all kinds of accusations against him and primaried him out of office at the first opportunity. Nobody ever demanded to know who he was talking about so they could investigate them. It may well have been Gaetz, but the point is that they all do it and the first unwritten law of Washington is you’re not supposed to talk about it. The way they are going after Gaetz you would think he’s threatening to release the Epstein client list.
Anglin’s a master of the art of writing headlines LOL!
Watching these TV ‘presenters’ discuss Gaetz’ sex life is sort of amusing.
It’s also weird and bizarre…
and CREEPY.
You get the feeling you’ve time-travelled, and the year is not 2024, but 1954.
Media people are good psychologists.
It was no accident that ABC picked a baby-faced young man to say “had sex with a 17 year old” at least 6 times within a 2 minute segment.
He looks like a 14 year old boy, agog at the idea of SEX !!! The raised eyebrows, the bulging eyes, the stance of the head. They had this guy in a studio for hours watching Mickey Rooney Andy Hardy movies. “That’s the look we want, son.”
Just thr right look to agitate and mobilize Murkan womenfolk.
Rinse and repeat with sex charges on Republicans. So what? But you can rest assure some GOPe somewhere will be outraged. That too is a rinse and repeat.
He resigned because he got re-elected. So, in 2025 he’s due to have his seat back.
Yes and two prominent “conservative” columnists basically wrote, “Clinton is an adult and sex is a private affair.” (Yoder and william Safire)
These Jews, who all support child trafficking, sex changes for kids, porn in school libraries, men in the girl’s restroom, pedophilia, and every other form of degeneracy obviously have a great fear of Gaetz and what he might do to them so his appointment must be supported.
Look up the word hyprocrite. It fits your kind perfectly.
Damned Pharisees.
It’s an honest mistake, they confused him with Hunter Biden. Hunter is sooo jealous, imagine stealing his thunder!
Politicians in Washington don’t pay for sex, the American taxpayer pays for it.
Paying hookers at binge parties doesn’t square with adherence to Christian family values. However, it’s nowhere near as bad as what’s been going on under the leadership of the woke Dems. They’ve contaminated the educational system where grammar school children have been encouraged to ‘try out’ homosexuality as part of some gender exploration. Perhaps they’re ‘gender fluid’ or some other such insanity. Maybe they are in the wrong body and need a sex change. There’s no telling how many young children have been damaged by all this freakish ideology that’s been force-fed to them.
He resigned right before they were about to start the ethics committee hearing about him. That killed the House investigation of him. Any legal case now would have to be brought by the DOJ which would look partisan and take time. He could avoid the confirmation hearing scrutiny through a recess appointment. If all else fails and he doesn’t get confirmed, Desantis could appoint him to Rubio’s vacant Senate seat. Still lots of options. I’m sure Trump would love to have someone at AG who has been persecuted by the deep state like he has.
Hilarious, right? the idea sex with strangers in Washington is a private affair and not in all probability a Mossad/CIA photo shoot of the sort produced by Epstein in the hundreds.
i don’t think that is how it works. a special election has to be scheduled to fill a vacant house seat, and desantis can only appoint a temporary senator until a special election is held to fill a vacant senate seat. i believe that is the protocol, but admittedly i’m no expert.
What a bad dude! I bet the next thing to drop is that he consensually raped his wife! Now where did my rape whistle go…
“Do we live in an ultra-puritan nation, or a country that literally celebrates gay orgies and promotes child homosexuality?”
Both.
We live in an ultra-puritan nation that literally celebrates gay orgies and promotes child homosexuality.
Joel (((Greenberg)))
Imagine that.
He’s a bigtime jewlicker though, isn’t he? Florida politicians are especially bad with that stuff.
Sex with children is not private, it is criminal. Adulterous sex is also relevant, since it involves the breaking of an oath which reflects badly on the breaker (who will take an oath of office, so his attitude toward oaths is relevant).
Gaetzgate. Is the word pizza in any of his e-mail?
Well, if you can’t trust a couple of hookers to tell the truth, then God help us!
This stupid stunt is soooo played out! Kavannaugh comes to mind, or what was that other one…? Oh yeah, Trump paid some Russian hookers to pee on a bed that Obama slept in? Was that it?
Oh, and that hideous freak cunt E Jean “I think rape is sexy” Carrol whore!
If these Democrats have proven anything, it’s that “if you drag a $100 bill thru a trailer park, you can get anybody to say anything!” (thank you Killary).
A couple of whores say that Gaetz paid them for some poon? Well, I say that the Democrats paid these whores to say it. What’s the difference? Does somebody think a whore will fuck for money, but not lie for it!?
This is just weak sauce, Dem Psy Op bullshit!
Seems to me it was more like Rent-A-Slut. Sex was not explicitly part of the contract. How is this different than Ivana Trump?
When the FBI releases the Washington madam’s black book, Anthony Wiener and Hunter Biden’s laptop, recordings and tapes from Epstein’s island, and Pdiddy’s joint will I get really behind going after Mr. Gaetz. Of course there’s the Podesta boys and God only knows what else.
Not sure how “underage” anyone supposedly was, but in my state 16 is the age of legal consent. They can have sex with anyone they want.
I don’t know why Trump wants to die on that hill for Gaetz. I understand he owes him for the support over the years and in the end, it will come down to that. Gaetz carried a lot of water for Trump during the first term, but it puts his administration on the wrong foot at the get go. Fact is, there are candidates out there however few who could escape criticism for sexual behavior.
It’s also super naive to think that Gaetz or any appointee is going to cause the DoJ to investigate itself, find criminals and convict them for their misdeeds. The second administration is shaping up to be real shit show.
Oaths used to be a really, really big deal in the Anglo-Saxon world. That whole speech by St. Thomas More in A Man for All Seasons comes to mind…
Oathbreaking is no big deal now.
OT
>a certain moral standard
But speaking of ‘upholding a certain moral standard’, I saw a curious (lewd is better) YouTube thumbnail today — how YT works: when watching a video (I was streaming a basketball game), recommended videos appear on the side, you scroll down thru a list (of thumbnails) — I assume the owner of the channel chose the thumbnail (?) — the video has 225k views in 3 days, how many due to the thumbnail I’m not sure (I didn’t take the bait so I don’t know how big the channel is) — click the link below if you want to see the thumbnail:
Lewd YouTube thumbnail
Anyone else had a similar experience? — I’d not seen this on YT before.
Ya, I was in the Navy, went to the Philippines. It was only 5 bucks a night back then.
So I get the point, but is it OK if I still don’t like that a hole? Or the one who nominated him?
Is Joel Leppard the brother of Def Leppard?
No, he a cousin. The brothers are Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, and Globen.
You’ve got the wrong (where there’s smoke, there’s fire) metaphor about these now de rigueur Democrat accusations, which are as believable as spontaneous combustion.
There are Republicans that want him out.
Gaetz had sex with a 17 year old and showed off pictures to his friends.
The guy is a sleezeball.
At least read about the case before trying to defend him. It’s not a Democrat witch hunt.
He is a scumbag and Trump must have some type of angle. Maybe it is a fake payback to Matt or even a way to get rid of him as a favor to someone else. We don’t know but the odds of him actually being a serious nominee are slim. It’s some type of ploy.
He “lacks gravitas”?
Once confirmed, Gaetz’ gonna grow right up and gravitas himself a whole lotta asses.
It seems this is the concern.
No, what I have is a good understanding of human sexuality, especially the male sex drive where young women in the prime of their sexual attractiveness is concerned — any denial of this is both extraordinarily naive and dishonest.
People like you likely believe the Epstein ‘honey pot’ narrative (I’m not saying I don’t), but for some reason seem reluctant to believe Gaetz would want to fuck attractive young women on offer — or as I said, in a such matter as this (sex), where there’s smoke there’s usually fire (again, I don’t know if the allegations are true or not).
It’s bizarre, but not untypical of the stupidity seen regularly here.
Just to set the record straight for people like you: I’m not for ‘going after Gaetz’ — I am for members of Congress adhering to a certain moral standard, which includes not paying for sex in unseemly circumstances which could make them vulnerable to blackmail — this is (or was, Gaetz resigned from Congress, so they will probably drop it now, although I doubt Democrats who may be asked to vote on the confirmation of Gaetz will be wiling to drop it) fundamentally a matter for the House Ethics Committee (I doubt criminal charges will be pursued), and I don’t really care what they do.
My main point is that Trump should choose and vet his nominees more carefully, as he doesn’t really need this kind of garbage hanging over him — neither does the country.
Yeah, he lacks gravitas — he’s more or less the male version of MTG — would you want to see MTG as AG?
He’d be much more useful as an ankle biter in Congress — he was very good in that role — have you ever heard of the Peter Principle? — if not, look it up.
The allegations are unproven, and Gaetz denies them, so I wouldn’t necessarily blame Trump for standing by Gaetz for now — only Gaetz knows what might yet be revealed, so it’s up to him if he wants to step aside — everything considered, I would also not blame Trump if he asked Gaetz to step aside.
A competent, focused person with enough credibility (gravitis) could make needed changes at DoJ, including very importantly oversight and reform of the FBI — I’m not sure Gaetz is the best person for that job though — and it definitely would be a job, not just a position, as being AG mostly is.
Trump should take more time to find and vet good people — the problem is that Trump himself has an image problem (I’ve called him a clown and a buffoon), and many good people will not want to be associated with him or his administration.
Off topic, but look what YouTube is suggesting to me:
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If he can get nominated despite it, then blackmailability via such things will be obliterated, which is ultimately good because it frees all the congress to stop obeying blackmailiers, and you know they are all guilty of something like this.
You know what gravitas is? It’s directing Justice Department lawyers to refrain from politically motivated prosecutions. Gaetz could pay for sex every day and still surpass his recent predecessors in gravitas.
More evidence-free accusations against a conservative. Meanwhile for at least 10 years we have had ACTUAL VIDEOS of biden groping 9 year old girls and the media buried the scandal!!
Video Link
Which is more obscene?
A gubmint EMPLOYEE
A. Paying for hookers
B. Receiving a 400 dollar haircut and shave
C. Eating a 400 dollar dinner
D. Running up a 1,000 dollar bar tab with “friends”
Save to say MOST of the parasites in Washington have done one if not all four.
It seems to be an unwritten rule that Democrats must be homosexuals. And yet Democrats are never “investigated” or “vetted” for their disgusting sexual perversions. That’s because, unlike Republicans, they have “gravitas.”
A 17-yr-old who chooses to prostitute herself of her own free will is considered a child in some jurisdictions, but I’d argue it’s a bit of a stretch. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she was just a week or two shy of majority.
YouTube is shameless, even by modern internet standards. But it’s also true that “content providers” work it for all it’s worth. I was viewing a video about the migrant invasion and this was a suggested vid:
And I daresay many a one has done it on all fours!
Have you seen the photos? Or are they “alleged photos” that someone, somewhere claims he heard about from a friend? Did you already forget what they tried to do to Kavanaugh? How old was Gaetz when he was with the “17 year old”? I don’t buy any of it because if it were true, Garland and his Gestapo would’ve charged him. They put Navarro in leg shackles over executive privilege. I’d have to see the photos and the girl’s birth certificate as well as hear testimony from the attending nurse at the young woman’s birth.
Girls under 18 have sex. Men sometimes pay for sex.
Posters on Unz are sometimes senile.
‘Anyone else had a similar experience? — I’d not seen this on YT before.’
It’s a fedpost trolling for suckers. If you click the pic, expect a visit from Uncle Samantha’s goon squad.
Meh, technically it might be criminal but I can’t work up too much outrage over this one, considering that in many states of the US girls as young as 16 can get married (with parents permission or if they are emancipated minors).
Heterosexuality will soon be declared unnatural, and unclean. Heterosexuals will be deemed to be mentally ill. I am not kidding at all.
“Trump should take more time to find and vet good people…”
Oh, come on. Matt Gaetz is a great speaker, highly intelligent, and a bulldog. Who do you consider “good people”? The underhanded, lying, sleazy Merrick Garland? The bore who did nothing but took up space and maintained the status quo, Bill Barr?
As Glenn Greenwald said, Trump got elected not as a Republican per se, but as someone who would take a hammer to both the Republican and Democrat parties. That’s why both parties hate him.
Here’s Glenn Greenwald’s take on Matt Gaetz and Trump:
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“Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” In some cases the “smoke” is manufactured out of thin air, like Russiagate, WMD, the accusations against Julian Assange, Justice Kavanaugh, Jeff Sessions, Trump, and the list goes on.
What’s the point of nominating a “good” person who does nothing? Even I could do that.
DeSantis could indeed appoint Gaetz to the Senate, and his term would last until the next Senate elections in 2026. The House calls for immediate special elections, as will be the case for Gaetz’s vacated position. The reason for the differing treatment between the two is that the House was always viewed as the more populist of the two chambers, and the pinnacle of direct democratic elections in the US. The Senate was viewed as more beholden to the power of the states. In fact, Senators were picked by state governors and confirmed by state legislatures until the early 20th century.
“[Gaetz is] a bigtime jewlicker though, isn’t he?”
Well, the alternative was an actual Jew – Merrick Garland … duh.
If I remember correctly, Ken Starr said Billy-Boy Draft-Dodger Clinton liked having his salad tossed – right in the Oval Office.
Then we have Plagiarist Draft-Dodger Joe Biden showering with his daughter until she was 15, sniffing and feeling up little girls in front of their parents, and biting babies’ bare feet.
Then there’s Pizza Gate – child molesting, rape, torture and cannibalism.
Just Democrats having fun!
>Posters on Unz are sometimes senile.
Maybe so — but they’re vastly outnumbered by idiots like you.
Do you believe the Epstein ‘honey pot’ narrative? — that the reason Epstein wanted to lure important or prominent people into having sex with girls was to blackmail and control them? — if you do, then maybe it’s not a good idea for men in Congress to be having sex with very young females in unseemly circumstances (not to mention the illegality of being a john), which is one reason the House Ethics Committee took up the case.
gravitas
I didn’t say Gaetz was unintelligent or a poor speaker, I said he lacked gravitas — regarding smoke/fire, I also said ‘usually’ — I know the allegations may be phony, that’s why I said I don’t know if they’re true or not — and as I suggested to another person, if you don’t know what the Peter Principle is, look it up — one should carefully consider removing someone from a role he performs well, and putting him in another job where he might not do nearly as well.
Even stalwart supporters of Gaetz ought to be a little bit troubled by the fact he apparently moved in a milieu that made such allegations thinkable (whether they are true or not).
I don’t need Glenn Greenwald to tell me what to think about Trump (or Gaetz) — as for ‘taking a hammer’, Trump was already president for four years, and he didn’t ‘take a hammer’ to anything.
>More evidence-free accusations against a conservative.
There’s sworn testimony before the House Ethics Committee from a young woman who said she was 17 when she had sex with Gaetz (at a ‘party’) — also in sworn testimony, women are said to have provided text messages exchanged with Gaetz — most people would call that ‘evidence’ — the truthfulness and reliability of the ‘evidence’ is another question.
You fucking dumbass.
But then you’re the same idiot who thinks a default judgement levied against Alex Jones because he failed to cooperate with the court handling the Sandy Hook lawsuit against him means Jones was denied the opportunity of a jury trial.
Look, Trump is not ideal. Who is? Look what happened to the meek little Jeff Sessions. He looked like he never so much as stepped on a spider in his life, and yet they destroyed him!
But everybody has some good qualities, and one of Trump’s is that he is not easily rattled, and that is exactly what is needed at the moment. And during his first term, tell me, how was he supposed to swing a hammer when his hands were securely tied behind his back by both parties? Right from the get-go, they tied up his nominations. They’re trying to do it again. Trump has been the great exposer, exposing the corruption for all to see, and people are waking up.
No, nobody needs Glenn Greenwald to tell them what to think (I’ve only watched a few of his videos), but he does bring balance to the conversation re Gabbard, Gaetz and Trump and is at least worthy of a listen.
“Whether they are true or not”, “Where there smoke, there’s usually fire”. And some people are good at spreading rumors around and hoping they stick. I wouldn’t want to be known for being good at that, would you?
A 17 year old woman a ‘child’??!! What proportion of seventeen year old women in the USA are virgins?
How are those Ten Commandments going in Thanatopolis DC? Thou shalt not kill!!?? It is to laugh!!
I was assuming we were on the same wavelength and didn’t mean my comment as disagreeing or insulting, but adding my two cents as an attempt at humor. I can see my tone was clearly off and hope you’ll accept my apology, and no offense taken by your reply.
“Would you want to see MTG as AG?”
She’s not exactly qualified as she doesn’t have a law degree or legal training. Gaetz does, though.
“The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to ‘a level of respective incompetence’: employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.”
And sometimes skills in one job DO translate to another. You don’t know what Gaetz is capable of; you have no idea.
And “he lack gravitas”? So as he walks the halls at the Department of Justice, he should be more serious and sober while partaking in corruption, like Merrick Garland, or Loretta Lynch on the Arizona tarmac with Bill Clinton? Be corrupt, but just look serious while you’re doing it?
I think Matt Gaetz is extremely sober and serious about stomping out corruption. That’s why they don’t want him in there; the status quo might be disrupted.
Anyway… from what I can see the real problem here is not his ethics or lack thereof – this guy is not even remotely qualified to be attorney general:
According to PolitiFact, Gaetz’s courtroom experience is limited, with his name appearing as counsel in fewer than a dozen cases in the county where he practiced. From 2009 to 2016 Gaetz argued, on average, one case per year. Those included speeding charges, workers’ compensation claims, child custody issues and negligence in a civil matter.
… and now he’s supposed to lead DOJ ?!? This is worse than any diversity hire I’ve ever heard of.
“…the truthfulness and reliability of the ‘evidence’ is another question.”
So why bring it up then? Remember this?
“Crystal Gail Mangum (born July 18, 1978) is an American former stripper from Durham, North Carolina, United States, who has been incarcerated for murder since 2013. In 2006, she came to attention in national news reports for having made false allegations of rape against lacrosse players in the Duke lacrosse case.”
Whatever happened to that fake Kavanaugh victim they pulled out of the woodwork in order to derail his Supreme Court nomination? These people just slither back under a rock after they’re finished trying to destroy someone.
You either bring charges against someone – or – shut up.
>step aside
It appears Gaetz has decided to step aside — he was recently reelected to the House, but resigned his seat when his nomination to be AG was announced — it’s not clear if he can ‘unresign’ or not.
So a brilliant start to the Trump administration: a nominee for an important position steps aside amid unseemly allegations, and assuming Gaetz cannot ‘unresign’, Trump won’t have an important ally in Congress anymore.
do you know if he was required to resign once nominated, or could he have sat until confirmed, or not?
For the purpose of defining someone capable of giving consent for sex, yes.
As of this afternoon (11/21), the Times is reporting that Gaetz has withdrawn as nominee for Attorney General. Since he has also resigned from Congress, this is a big win for the (((Establishment))). The important remaining question is whether Trump and his team engineered his removal—i.e., planned to stab Gaetz in the back from the get-go. I think they did.
A congressional nominee for a Cabinet position need not resign until the moment he takes the oath of his new office. Speaker-apparent Michael Johnson said that Gaetz resigned as early as he did so that his appointed replacement (that appointment being up to DeSantis) could help the Republicans maintain their razor-thin majority in the newly elected House, whose members will be sworn in on January 3, 2025.
This is a Trump cabinet, Jewlicking is to be expected and any apparent divergence from that to be inspected.
Whoever is nominated instead of Gaetz will be just as much of a Jew-lover but with even fewer redeeming qualities.
Looks like he just withdrew after Trump told him he didn’t have votes for his nomination.
>planned to stab Gaetz in the back from the get-go
These allegations against Gaetz have been known for some time, and stem from alleged conduct in 2017 — the House Ethics Committee initiated an investigation of Gaetz in 2021 — despite this, Trump nominated him — so a more reasonable question is: why was he nominated in the first place? — maybe to make the prelude to Trump’s second term appear as amateurish and embarrassing as possible?
Or what was the plan? — let’s nominate someone with unseemly sexual allegations hanging over him for an important position, then ‘stab him in the back’ by ‘engineering his removal’? — I mean what the fucking hell, how does that make any sense?
And by the way, the age of consent in Florida, where it appears the alleged sexual encounter with the 17 y/o took place, is 18.
You see the most ridiculous bullshit in the comments here — it’s really unbelievable.
Ope. Missed your prior comment. Serves me for posting from my phone.
No one would be so foolish as to suggest that you have sufficient gray matter to figure it out.
OK, so I can’t ‘figure it out’ — explain it to me then.
What was the grand plan behind nominating someone unsuitable in the first place, but even worse, someone who’d been under investigation by the House Ethics Committee for years due to allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct, only to ‘stab him in the back’ by ‘engineering his removal’ — what was the motive behind all that?
As opposed to the more obvious Occam’s razor explanation: Trump is stupid, as are the people around him.
I don’t know what the outcome of the ethics investigation would have been (I hear the Democrats are seeking the release of all details), but I doubt it would’ve been worse than the outcome of this previous scandal, meaning censure — Gaetz would still be an important ally of Trump in Congress — now it’s not clear what his future will be, and Trump has managed to give his opponents more reason to question his judgement.