When you don’t have religion, these people become total gutter scum,

look at what a mess the saudis are becoming despite being so religious, religion is not the panacea you believe it is

Correct. The only way Russia could have kept Syria would have been to invade and set up a colonial style dictatorship and that was never going to happen.

Those women who hated the Iranians will have it even worse under the Salafist Jihadi caliphate, even a softer version than the previous one.

But Erdogan did tell the Jihadis to go all the way on the road to Damascus; he didn’t tell them to stop after they took Aleppo.

Any ideas how to save the Alawites and Christians from the Jihadis now ruling the country?

Chas Freeman and Larry Wilkerson and others from that commentariat have said that Assad was hoping to cozy-up to the Gulf States and, because of it, he had refused Russian help (demands?) to improve the Syrian Army.

Syrian Girl is hot.
Russia let Israel bomb Syria. Russia never supplied any modern weapons to Syria. Russia let the US bomb Syria. Russia negotiated the agreement with Turkey that de facto allowed Turkey to annex Idlib. Russia allowed Israel to bomb Syria because Russia did not want to offend Israel.
Erdogan defeated Putin, or more likely the two collaborated on this conquest. Russia is not weak, but Putin is. Fuck religion, Assad was far better than the head choppers. No American should accuse other countries of corruption, that is just a lame excuse to defend Putin. Our Congress and President are owned by Israel.
Syrian Girl is hot.

Religious 😉
The religion of hospital murderers, instituted by Bill Gates, WHO and “UN”.
They only have one God, a mad psychopath. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are exactly the same thing. You should not judge them after what they tell you they are, but by their actions 😉
They are exactly the same mad apes.

Anglin appears to be describing a self-organizing failure in a complex system, a social analog to the abelian sand pile model. In terms of probability, such models gradually increase the failure probability of very numerous interlinked components. Eventually, one of the components fails and brings down other components, which bring down still more until the final effect is a massive reorganization. WW I, for example, was started by “some damned thing in the Balkans” that was, in turn, caused by Ferdinand’s driver getting lost after being told that a security alert blocked his planned path.

Obviously, Ferdinand’s driver didn’t really “cause WW I”, he just started an unpredictable chain of events that ended in WW I.

The interesting thing is the increased number of small failures that have grown into large ones since, say, AD 2000. Consider the 2008 banking system failure. Consider the “squatting” failure. Consider the COVID failure. Consider the “pen and phone” failure. Consider the members of the entire Jewish religion being classified as White, hence an oppressive class. Consider the media failure, both entertainment and information (“News”). Consider the sheer idiocy of settling 10 million predatory migrants in Democratic urban strongholds by the Democrats that cost the Democrats much or all their hold on the urban strongholds.

Couple that with the public reaction to the assassination of an insurance executive by a person who was apparently subject to barbaric and failed surgical intervention. See x-rays at ” https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/32221373/luigi-mangione-crazy-screws-spine-surf-crash/ Generally speaking, the public did not condemn the assassination. Media reaction (both right and left) to the public reaction was uniform — it condemned the public reaction . . .

This looks a lot like self-organizing complexity similar to what Anglin describes in https://www.unz.com/aanglin/russian-intelligence-failure/ .

So why all the failures, which appear likely to cause a “failure avalanche”? Self-organizing complexity occurs only under specific system-wide conditions. In the abelian sandpile, the conditions are energy storage in sand grains and constant perturbations by addition of additional sand grains (actually, this happens in piles of rice, not piles of sand, but the literature uses “sandpile”).

Well, it appears that the Enlightenment has run its course. See: https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-endarkenment . For an application of this idea to the US, see: https://www.wnd.com/2024/11/how-americas-political-war-has-pushed-the-endarkenment/

The Islamic world shows most clearly how this happened: the fundamental Islamists, who do not want and do reject an industrial State, outbred the Westernizers. As in the Western “march through the institutions” (see Unz’s comment on Jewish representation in Ivy League colleges), even the formerly Westernizing factions found themselves with an anti-Westernizing staff and losing elections to an anti-Westernizing populace.

It’s a bit early, but what appears to be happening is that the Enlightenment intellectual framework has done all that it can think of, and has been counterproductive since AD ~ 1914 (WW I), failing economically in the US with the New Deal. (See: https://aier.org/article/the-economic-consequences-of-populism/ )

Every US domestic US intervention by government since President Hoover, apparently, has been highly counterproductive, with Pres. Wilson starting massive Federal intervention when the US intervened in WW I.

Note that Enlightenment thought assumes all humans are interchangeable, assumes continuous processes, and thinks in terms of algebra and calculus/differential equations. (Yes, even those people who know neither algebra nor calculus.) An abelian sand pile model, for instance, is considered a curiosity that is not to be used in setting serious policy.

Pres. Elect. Trump and his VP Vance appear to be innovators. If the US is lucky, they will find existing goals and methods ineffective, and will start a transition to something drastically different. If the US is not lucky, they will conform to the existing and reliably failing methodologies and goals.

It couldn’t possibly be that Putin is in on it. Not at all.

The Russians are there on a legal technicality, not really power. See if they get to keep their bases first. It was always a risk boosting the Syrians because if you gave them weapons that could shoot down F-35 they could end up losing them on the battlefield in a war. Martyanov says the US already got early Pantsir from the Libyan war. Iran is a safer bet to give the good stuff to, they seem to getting SU-35 now.

Religion is for men, not gods. To imagine the world without religion, you only need to compare the entire history of mankind, wars and all, with the slaughter of hundreds of millions in the name of scientific socialism during the last century. As Dostoevsky put it, if there is no God, all is permissible, which is what we see unfolding around the world under the direction of Washington, D.C.

When you don’t have religion, these people become total gutter scum, and do nothing but scam. All of the generals and governors were completely, absurdly corrupt, and that is what caused this collapse.

Meanwhile Jolani and the other “jihadis” are mum about Israel taking over a swathe of the country and are talking about normalizing relations with the Jewish state.
The scumbaggery does not end with the secular in the Middle East.

It couldn’t possibly be that Putin is in on it.

If Putin is in on it, then why give Assad asylum in Moscow?

Putin’s first choice was probably for Assad to remain in power. Once that option was no longer feasible, he was probably willing to accept absolute chaos as various factions fight it out, with no known outcome. The Jews and Turks may be premature in claiming victory.

Trump’s comment was stupid and undiplomatic and shows his lack of sophistication in analysis.

Trump will be 80-years old in a year and a half. At that age your ratiocinative processes have significantly degraded and you’re running on autopilot. Which isn’t bad if someone has formed solid philosophical and religious guiding principles which have become habitual. It’s pretty evident Trump has not and has none. His only religious formation was as a child going to a fake church and listening to Norman Vincent Peale. The power of positive thinking is not any type of philosophia perennis.

The picks for Trump’s incoming administration look like they were made by a geriatric Fox News viewer. His foreign affairs picks look like they could’ve been made by Lindsey Graham.

Don’t expect much good to come until the American Empire collapses.

Nope, totally disagree with much of what Anglin says here and I normally am the opposite.
Seems a lot of copium to me.

Russia knows how to deal with Syrians for over fifty years. There are no surprises in Syria with corruption of generals, apathy of reservists and fear. Russia did let Syria down, and there is too much evidence of that to be refuted. All you need to do is read both sides of the story.

It was Putin=Russia who imposed “no-shoot down” orders on Syria with Russian AA. It was Putin who forgave both Russia and Israel for shooting down Russian planes. It was Putin who chauffeured jihadis to Idlib and let them grow more powerful. It was Putin who was duped by Erdogan in the Astana accords, allowing MORE Turkish troops to enter Syria , rather than less. It was Putin who was scared of pushing back at the Turks when Erdogan stopped the joint patrols. It was Putin who surrounded all Turkish bases and could have starved them out, so the Turks leave all of Syria, but he gave up . It was Putin who allowed oil to still be stolen by the US and Turks in NE Syria, even when the Russians got to Conoco fields too late. What happened to Putin infamously torching the Turkish lorry convoys which were stealing the oil for Israel ,USA and Erdo’s interests? It was Putin /Russia who got to the Conoco oilfields, water dams and wheatfields of NE Syria way too late. It was Putin who allowed Turkey to move in and block the Kurds when the US allowed the latter to steal more land. Why didn’t Russia torch those Kurds AND Turkish troops /Jihadis?

If the US can pay jihadis to fight for US interests, then Russia and China should have paid mercenaries and Syrian generals too. China and Russia is awash in money. For the Syrian generals, a quick word with them is enough.” If you don’t like money, how about your life? Do you like that ? If we even suspect you are /will be a traitor we will “heartattack you”. Understand?” Whether Assad agrees or not, that is what Russia should have done. Case closed.

All the above is just from the top of my head , and I can present more evidence.

To be fair, the God of the Old Testament had no problem with his people killing men, women and children.

Maybe “scientific socialism” aka Marxism took more from the Torah than we thought. OTOH people have been massacring other people since we came out of the trees.

Lmao. They could have given Syria back to Utkin and Wagner. Could have told the roaches to get fucked. All cope. Putin got played by shoygoy and the rest of the traitors in MOD. Which means jewtin is either getting old and sloppy or is really in league with international jewry.

I note both at Unz and at MoA a seemingly organised “Putin is no good” campaign, ostensibly by Russian patriots who are all well informed and have very good English.

Putin rescued Russia from the depths of “Western” looting. The looters want to come back.

As Dostoevsky put it, if there is no God, all is permissible

“god” gave permission to the last 8,000 years of war, torture and every other horror imaginable, some old man’s platitude and your whataboutery doesn’t change that

who the hell was even talking about how many people communists killed? lol
anglin doesn’t actually know how syria fell, and claiming it’s because of a lack of praying to mohammed is just dumb and ignores the facts

Anglin, you have got it wrong.

Rus GenStaff believe Putin must lift his veto on Rus missile shootdowns of Israeli aircraft attacking Syria so that Iranian forces can fly safely into Khmeimim for counter-offensive against Turks, CIA proxies, mujahideen. Syria lost if not https://t.co/Bdlkz4IlJb pic.twitter.com/UKxVXX01aV

— Dances_with_Bears (@bears_with) December 7, 2024

Your Jewdar is way off. Get a headful of this:
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/04/22/jewish-dominance-from-the-ussr-to-todays-russian-federation/amp/

The whole Russian establishment – except the General Staff – including Putin, Lavrov and Medvedev, are Jews doing Jewy things. Just take the time to read all the links.

Putin and his fellow Jews have betrayed Russia for Judea (as in “Judea Declares War on Germany”). Along with Dönmeh (Sabbatean satanist Turkish crypto-Jew) Erdogan who is doing Jewy stuff while pretending to be the Ottoman sultan.

If Putin is in on it, then why give Assad asylum in Moscow?

Because the world is chock full of persons such as you?

This was a defeat for Russia. No avoiding that. However, now that Russia no longer has to be mindful of the Naval base and Air base in Syria they are also less dependent on the whims of Erdogan. Turkey killed the hostage.

I suspect the Russians will now go full speed with their ties to Iran. They will double their efforts to develop the Caspian Sea route through Iran for access to the Indian Ocean. I would not be surprised to sea a Russian Naval base in Iran in the future and maybe an Air base. Not as optimal as the Syrian bases but it may be workable in their support of their Africa projects. That will also have the effect of making Iran more secure from the U.S. and Israeli pirates.

Note that Erdogan’s threats of closing the Bosporus Strait will now not carry as much weight. In fact since Russia will not need to support the Syrian bases, in a real crises situation Russia could flip the switch on Erdogan:

Erdogan: “Mr. Putin, we are no longer allowing your ships to transit the Bosporus Passage.”
Putin: ” Well OK Mr. Erdogan. If we can’t use the passage maybe we will make sure no one can use the passage, in or out.”

Syria didn’t “suddenly” collapse.

For 76 years, 1948-2024, Syria did more to resist Israel than any other state.

For 13 years, 2011-2024, Syria was besieged by an overwhelmingly strong coalition: The US government under the control of the Israel Lobby (aka ZOG), the EU, Turkey, Israel, the Gulf States, Ukraine, Al-Qaeda, and Kurdish Antifa.

It is amazing that the Syrian state lasted as long as it did.

Funny how many forget jewtin/shoygoy s betrayal of Wagner at khashem. If jewtin had allowed Utkin to maintain Syria none of this would have happened. He feared Utkin/Wagner though. Instead all the axis of resistance is showing it’s true colors. Those colors are green and red. Green for money and red for their young men they march into death. Not even an honorable death.

Because the world is chock full of persons such as you?

True, the world is full of people who ask questions. We would probably even benefit from more people asking questions. But that’s besides the point. How does this relate to Assad being in Moscow?

{People are thus claiming that Russia failed somehow.} [Anglin]

Right.

Alistaire Crooke, quite knowledgeable about the goings on in the region, said this on Judge Nap, amongst other things:

1. Russians offered Assad 2 years ago to reequip and train his military: Assad refused, to the astonishment of Russians.
2. Iranians told Assad several weeks ago that Idlib was “stirring” and told him they had 2 IRG brigades ready to come in: again Assad refused.
3. The looting of Syria by US had the intended effect: Syrian Gov was practically bankrupt; apparently Syrian soldiers were getting paid only $7 @MONTH (!).

Also, Assad apparently was trying to cozy up to the Turks and the West through Gulf states, and was distancing from Russia and Iran.
Looks like Assad had gotten off the rails long before the Isalmist blitz.

In my opinion, one reason might be that he lost the will to fight: his lovely wife, whom he apparently deeply adores, had (has?) cancer. So Assad surely would be mentally taxed, and just let the country rot?

In any case a terrible tragedy.

[Alastair Crooke : Turkey Turns on Russia.]

Video Link

I suspect the Russians will now go full speed with their ties to Iran.

And the Iranians? How long before they catch on to the betrayal by the gaggle of crypto-Jews running Russia, including Putin, Lavrov and Medvedev?

https://fitzinfo.net/2021/04/22/jewish-dominance-from-the-ussr-to-todays-russian-federation/amp/

Jihadis are paid $2k per month. Syrian soldiers, $7 per month. Syrian generals, $40 per month.

Everyone here is a Near East expert. It looks like if your country is such a basket case as Syria, then there’s no point in bleeding out money to keep it propped up. America did this with South Vietnam for over decade only to lose at the end.

Russia probably figured the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. After 10 years there and who knows how much money, Syria was still a basket case.

Today, I saw photos of Alawite massacres on Te. Brave warriors of Allah shot an elderly woman and left her to die on the side of the road. Monotheism just creates faggots and sissies. Your Supreme Being and fidelity to his neuroses means you can shoot and rape pretty much anything and never question your own masculinity or your inner strength.

All of the pay and equipment was courtesy the U.S. taxpayer’s Infinity Dollar Machine and the massacres taking place are just part of the democratic process. Because democracy is precious, it’s joyful even when slaughtering an obscure minority group’s elderly women.

Like I said earlier, the plan was always to remove the leaven from the dough. The Christians and Alawites will end up on the European public dole, Syria will get crazier because Muslims tend to get crazier the more closed off they are in a hothouse. They will be given lots of money by the U.S., will eventually turn into a nuisance and the U.S. will have to invade, topple whatever Muslim fanatic is running the show and basically govern the country as a proxy for Israel. The U.S. will be “peacekeepers” or something and will be joyfully occupying and demilitarizing another foe of Israel.

People will keep posting ancient footage of Wesley Clark talking about the seven nations to be brought down according to the plans of American Jewry and the dominos will continue to tumble.

When you don’t have religion, these people become total gutter scum…

That could explain all the trash male Moroccan Muslims in Brussels. These street punks are alcohol-drinking, fornicating, drug-dealing, violent, welfare-raised garbage. These non-religious Muslims are the sh*ttiest immigrants imaginable.

Then again, the devoutly Islamic “Belgian” Muslims, in their own right, became a murderous problem: The largest mosque in Brussels, in all of Belgium for that matter, was under a “free” 99-year lease to Saudi Arabia which came about through a cheap-oil deal arrangement in the 70’s. The Saudis immediately packed the mosque with hardcore, jihad-preaching, Wahhabi imams. For decades “Death to the Infidel” and the conquest of Europe was these imam’s key “teachings/preachings” in Arabic to thousands of Moroccan-Muslim immigrants and their children in Brussels. The dumbass Belgian officials apparently never bothered to check on, or act upon, what was actually being preached within a mosque mere meters from EU headquarters. It wasn’t until after the murderous ISIS bombings in Brussels by Brussels very own home-grown ISIS jihadis, that the Belgian government got wise and ended the 99-year lease arrangement.

When you don’t have religion, these people become total gutter scum…

That depends on the religion.

Did Russia cede their bases yet? All I hear is “Uh, oh, Uh, oh, those bases are in Big TROUBLE…!” from Mockingird media. The presumptive successor state says, Sure, you can stay.

What, are we all worried that Russia’s based will be unwelcome occupiers hanging by a thread like US bases in Iraq, Romania, Okinawa, and everywhere else?

I’m not gonna have an opinion till we see whether the CIA/Mossad proxies disintegrate the country, or the Turkish proxies incorporate it into the neoOttoman Empire. Only one of those things will happen.

Your Jewdar is way off. Get a headful of this:
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/04/22/jewish-dominance-from-the-ussr-to-todays-russian-federation/amp/

The whole Russian establishment – except the General Staff – including Putin, Lavrov and Medvedev, are Jews doing Jewy things. Just take the time to read all the links.

Putin and his fellow Jews have betrayed Russia for Judea (as in “Judea Declares War on Germany”). Along with Dönmeh (Sabbatean satanist Turkish crypto-Jew) Erdogan who is doing Jewy stuff while pretending to be the Ottoman sultan.

@Ron Unz

Hey Ron,

You’ve written brilliantly on the tactic of cognitive infiltration, Miles Mathis, etc., and here is a perfect example of it. This group which poses as an individual (with the fake ethnic Irish name of “Timothy Fitzpatrick”) targets people on the ADL radar and throws all kinds of ludicrous and calumnious allegations against them as a means to besmirch. Check out their website: fitzinfo.net

The group goes after E. Michael Jones, Brother Nathanael, Adam Green, Alex Jones, et al. as Judeo-Masonic Bolshevists working for the KGB and claims that E. Michael Jones is a crypto-Jew Kremlin tool.

He thinks Alex Jones is a crypto-Jew cokehead controlled by the KGB.

It’s all amusing and shocking that this is the level of Unit 8200 and/or its affiliates/freelancers.

Agree with 1951. Maram Susli is SMOKING HOT! Looks 100% White also. Probably not Alawite or “Christian” but could be Turkmen. Thank God she’s living in Australia and is safe from the head choppers.

Agree enitirely with 1951. Maram Susli is SMOKING HOT! Looks 100% White also. Probably not Alawite or “Christian” but could be Turkmen. Thank God she’s living safely in Australia & can’t be harmed by the head choppers.

What’s with the nasty tone?

Why the word Christian in quotes? You do know Syria is one of the cradles of Christianity ,right, way before Anglo Celtic Germanics even knew who Jesus was.

P.S In Science , Syrians are all White ( Semitic or not) as they are Caucasoids. Exceptions, may be the Turcomans who would have some Mongoloid blood.

Well Latakia harbour is destroyed , so I guess, it was a good thing the Russian ships left or anchored offshore.Yep, Israel did that , and not a peep out of Russia.

Sadly the Christians and Alawites will not end up anywhere ; as the EU has legally said no Syrian refugees will be taken , and the US de facto has not allowed any Christians from the Mid East to enter. All this from Hillary Clinton days. So the two groups will likely have their heads cut off and Protestant Evangelicals /Jews and Vassals in the USA and EU respectively will still happily sleep soundly at night. A pox on their houses…

Russia knows what it is doing. First of all, it knew that a Western provocation would occur and did not allow itself to be drawn into it; and secondly, Russia has no terrorist groups around the world and cannot wage a foreign war without its own soldiers.

In the West, they are terrified of having their own body count and they wanted to make Russia fall into it, but they failed.

Remember that the Vietnam War ended with rebellion in the streets because of the fatal body count of the United States troops in that country.

Nice, starting with the @ Ron Unz – which turns out to be totally irrelevant. You are smearing one Timothy Fitzpatrick as a fake Irishman, and generally running around like a headless chicken, finally ending up with Unit 8200.

Fitzinfo.net strikes me as very hard working and sincere. I spent some time researching Trump as a crypto-Jew and I see fitzinfo has done some of the same research and taken it farther in many places. As for the Russian research, it is convincing and quite detailed. You can follow it up on Yandex.

I suspected – after Putin demoted a senior Russian official for saying something so obviously factual and virtually harmless in his private capacity as that Chabad is a supremacist organization and this demotion was quickly seconded by Lavrov – that Lavrov is a Jew. I searched for evidence on Yandex but first only found allegations to that effect. Finally, Yandex led to Fitzinfo where I came across two pieces of supporting evidence having to do with his supposedly Slavic mother’s maiden name – of which name ‘Lavrov’ is a variant. Do a search on Fitzinfo and follow it through.

Judge for yourself whether you think fitzinfo.net is the work of a Jew from Unit 8200 posing as an Irishman.

Any ideas how to save the Alawites and Christians from the Jihadis now ruling the country?

I suppose the West could take them in as refugees …. wait, you said Christians ? Uh, no thanks.

BTW, it might be a Russian masterstroke to let Israel and Turkey remove all that dead space between them. Bibi thinks he has a problem with Iran, while Erdogan salivates to restoring control of Palestine and the Levant to his neo Ottoman Empire.

We’re told that the reason Israel is quickly moving into Syria is to destroy all their weapons and poison gas, this is a side issue and a diversion, the main reason is they desperately need to restock the gay brothels of Tel Aviv with Arab boys.

” His foreign affairs picks look like they could’ve been made by Lindsey Graham.”

If Lindsey Graham had made all the cabinet picks they would’ve all been his friends from the local bath house. They could’ve formed the American branch of the Bathist party.

To me the biggest villain in the Syrian collapse is obviously Assad.

Assad, this selfish man, if he didn’t want to rule anymore, should of found a fit and proper person or group to rule in his place, then he could return to his passion or trade.

Assad has no care for the Syrian people, he has left his country to the head choppers, the U.S thieves and the Israeli sky bombers.

Its about time Assad is turned into the villain he is , he has failed his people and country utterly and his name should be blackened from now on.

What is religion?

Societies must have agreed upon mores that are actively enforced. In some cases, these mores have been attributed to a “lawgiver”, like Solon (Athens) or Lycurgus (Sparta) or Hammurabi (Babylon) without any supernatural intervention.

In other cases the secular enforcement was reinforced by religion. This was particularly effective during the European Dark Ages, when Christianity was about all that held Europe together, and Christianity served as a balance between the descendants of the multitudinous tribes of conquering barbarians and the remnants of the Roman era Europeans.

Religion can assert almost anything, and some are obviously suicidal (Jonestown, for example). Others are responsible for fairly complex civilizations, some nice, others not.

Religion vs. Atheism is about the least productive of disputes, and is usually a mask. Ever notice how Catholics have been denounced and prosecuted while Jewish Rabbis have not, nor have Buddhists? “Ay, springes to catch woodcocks”, as Polonius said.

That picture of Syrian girl is over ten years old and she is not hot now if she ever was. She weighs 200# for all we know. It’s not like she is wiggling her bikini tits and ass on tik tok.

I enjoy your comments, but cordially disagree about Assad abandoning his people. I don’t know much about him, but his record isn’t the point.

Inasmuch as he could have saved no one and his fate, and possibly that of his family, was likely going to be torture and mutilation like Gaddafi and Hussein, or public beheading, he did the only thing he could do and escape to Russia. Louis XVI and his family and Nicholas II and his family almost made it, but weren’t so lucky.

To aaglin,

Remember Prigosin? This is a thousand times the amplitude of a debacle. Russia postered as an autonomous actor, convincingly, over the last five years, growing into adulthood. End of era. No credibility left. To redeem is to reconquer.

The alt-right talking heads have egg on their face explaining away any excuses.

I have never taken it at face value that Trump personally writes all or even any of his famous tweets.

Thank you for your quite excellent and informative posting. I especially appreciate being introduced to the Abelian Sand Pile model and its potential for theoretical extension.

I now understand more of why, as a systems analyst and data architect, I had durable success in “process modeling” (firstly in a data model, next the data expression within a typically economic objective of process routinization) only to the extent I endeavored to recognize, not just those influences, impositions, and actions formally specified as integral to the process under analysis, but more critically those elements possible to contemplate as acting prospectively or provisionally upon the system. Such factors, should they arise to prominence in-process, and whether sooner or later, inevitably exert influences theoretically equivalent to that provided by the grains of sand added randomly to the abelian sand pile (in its dynamic state, i.e., as a process).

Or jewtin is controlled opp faggot. He had plenty of chances to secure Syria. He was too afraid of Wagner becoming kings of the desert though. He is too insecure and too bad Utkin was a patriot who still trusted Putin to do the right thing.

*When you don’t have religion, these people become total gutter scum.*

Religion. For a kinder gentler machine gun hand. (Thanks, Neil)

Stupid.

Unfortunately, Herr Anglin, Syria has no shared religion. That’s why secular nationalism was the order of the day for so long. Only Ba’athism prevented Syria — and Iraq — from becoming another Lebanon … until now.

Here’s the question: what would the intelligence even be?

1. Russian satellites identify an armored column entering from Turkey and send in Migs to engage before it gets to Aleppo.

2. Russian spies and informants learn about how Erdogan is training a secret force to take over Syria. Infiltrate the group or increase border security.

There you go. Russia was completely capable of both options.

Two major intelligence failures.

From all accounts, Turkey didn’t even think this would happen. They wanted to take Aleppo because they want to put those millions of refugees somewhere.

Why wouldn’t Erdogan aim for the complete collapse of the government?

If you are going to send in an armed incursion then you might as well try to go for complete removal.

It’s the best chance of sending the most amount of refugees home.

The scumbaggery does not end with the secular in the Middle East.

Good God, no! Just look at Saudi Arabia.

You’re seriously raising the bogey of ‘cognitive decline’ after four years of Joe Biden? Do you still really believe that the president actually runs the country? Trump is just another Zionist tool like the rest — no different.

Its not about the immediate past I talk about, its the impression of those who had dealings with Assad of recent time. They got…an impression of a disinterest and general apathy…an unwillingness to implement policy based on sound advice, remember he was the accidental leader.

If your heart isn’t in it anymore then your people suffer, if they don’t think their leader in willing to fight why should they?

What a ridiculous pseudo-intellectual screed.

>Syria only the latest but arguably the worst

I don’t know if there were Russian ‘intelligence failures’, or whatever blah blah you want to use to describe what happened, in Syria or not — but I do know that if there were, they are not the reason the Assad regime collapsed so quickly — the SAA refused to fight, it’s as simple as that — they had superior numbers, superior equipment, were backed by Russian airpower, but did not have the will to fight — they deserted and surrendered en masse, soldiers and officers.

Wagner and Russian warplanes spearheaded the defeat of the ‘rebels’ earlier — Syria had been relatively quiet for several years, so quiet there was talk in Europe of sending Syrian refugees back — during this time Russia tried to help Assad reform and modernize his military — but Wagner was gone, regular Russian soldiers were not there to fight for Assad, so when the rebels returned, the SAA had to fight — but instead of fighting they ran — Assad is not gone due to an ‘intelligence failure’, he’s gone because his military was full of cowards who wouldn’t fight to save him and his regime.

Did it? The way events are remembered can differ from what everybody knew at the time.

https://www.vvof.org/factsvnv.htm

only one-third of Vietnam-era veterans entered the military through the draft, far lower than the 66 percent drafted in World War II.

There were no “rebellions.” At the Kent State Massacre, four were killed. Americans voted for the U.S. Congress that authorized the war.

Because the U.S. lost it was tempting later to pretend to have been against the Vietnam war at the time among people who had no opinion or had quietly favored it. In this way history becomes distorted.

The war ended because Nixon realized it was unwinnable under the rules of engagement that excluded invasion of North Vietnam or attacks on Soviet supply ships. The dull-witted American people did not oppose the war until we had lost.

The crypto-Jew Putin and the crypto-Jew Russian establishment (minus the Slav General Staff) by allowing the Israelis to bomb Syria at will without allowing Syria to fire back contributed to the final collapse of the Syrian military. The last straw was refusing the Russian General Staff demand that the Syrians be allowed to down Israeli planes that would bomb Iranian troops that were ready to come in. By so weakening the Resistance Putin has gravely damaged the strategic posture of Russia. The Africans, Yemenis and others will think twice about trusting Putin’s Russia. Putin is definitely weakened in Russia vis-a-vis the General Staff.

Giving asylum to Assad and family is putting lipstick on that pig. People will say, if Assad has accepted asylum he couldn’t be blaming Putin’s Russia for his misfortune.

It’s tough to get the conversation going in public in Russia against the Jew strangle-hold because of the antisemitism laws and postures. A senior official who in a private capacity spoke of Chabad as supremacist was publicly demoted by Putin, and this was publicly seconded by his fellow crypto-Jew Lavrov.

Russia let Israel bomb Syria. Russia never supplied any modern weapons to Syria. Russia let the US bomb Syria. […..] Russia allowed Israel to bomb Syria because Russia did not want to offend Israel.

We have to examine everything thru the lens of the western-driven war against Russia in Ukraine. This is a major historical movement in itself (comparable to pre-WW1).

But it appears that Russia’s Achilles Heel is Israel. Why and how they let this shitty little zionist cult run them into the ground is anyone’s guess. I’m guessing that Russian zionists know where the bodies are buried.

A handful of nukes dropped on Israel would have removed this cult from the affairs of men. Now it appears that Israel may be the end of mankind.

It’s pretty evident Trump has not and has none

Amen. I’m glad he won, considering the cretin opposing him, but now we’re like the dog that caught the car. What now?

Trump’s a mile wide and an inch deep who thinks being a tough guy issuing directives to national leaders is the way to act. Consideration of likely outcomes, not so much.

He had no strategy but the attention span of a puppy. His Twitter war with Rosie said it all. He was supposed to be this masterful business leader yet never held anyone accountable. The competent loyalists were the ones who went out feet first, except for that gal with the dreadful sack of a husband, George.

Nor was he able to say anything coherent about the election theft that destroyed him. And he hung the J6ers out to dry big time. Mr. Passivity.

A visceral patriot I grant you but with a decided Wailing Wall component.

As a Jewish-perpetrated genocide apologist Mr. Felpudinho tries to muddy waters with some ingenuous hasbara.

Facts are:
Judaism may or may not be a re-ligio.

Lets rephrase to accord to the facts:

When you don’t have religion, and only the Talumd remains these atheist people become total gutter scum…

Fact is: Judaism is the least spiritual and holistic religion, assuming it is one.
Fact is: As a consequence Jewish people often lack implicit long term and holistic world view.

“jewtin is controlled opp faggot”

If he’s controlled

a) why do the bad people (i.e. our elites) hate him so much?

b) why did Russia step into Donbass in 2022, when the war was already 8 years old?

Between you and VVP in the “controlled” stakes, I know where I’d put my money.

You and Thrallman are wrong. Opposition to the VN war was from draft-eligible “men.” They were terrified and resentful and instantly became like lambs when the draft lottery came in.

They only disagree and are rival gangs. As to the second point his performance in Ukraine is the seal on the deal. He put his young patriotic men into a meat grinder situation. Keep following your pied Piper. Why did he allow shoygoy to nut Wagner the best performing soldiers from day one? Why did he allow American Air Force to kill a few hundred Russians at the battle of khashem in Syria? He’s controlled opposition. He is Magog in the apocalyptic jew war we are now seeing come into fruition. Stay blind if you choose to. Putin is not your friend

The crypto-Jew Putin and the crypto-Jew Russian establishment

This is the most important question of our time. You make a good argument for your side. Putin also, however, may not want to go down in history as the evil man who started World War Three and for Moscow to lay in smoldering ruins.

You really trust gerasimov and shoygoy? They are worse than jewtin

Fact is: Judaism is the least spiritual and holistic religion, assuming it is one.
Fact is: As a consequence Jewish people often lack implicit long term and holistic world view.

Look at these freaks, how can anyone who looks, dresses, and acts like this have a “holistic world view”? The kicker is that they think they’re superior to everyone else, proving they are as ugly on the inside as they are on the outside.

The Muslims, with their Infidel-hating Islam and their psychopathic, pedophile, prophet aren’t any better. F them both.

Ronaldinho, regarding this photo, just to inform those who missed it that the true meaning of the word kike has been revealed and can be read in Open Thread #10(360). Pls, pass my regards to Nelly.

Good to hear from you. You conflate my proposed intelligence failure with other factors, none of which I necessarily deny were in operation and contributed to the debacle: aimlessness and a general lack of resolve on Assad’s part, the SAA’s refusal to fight on account of “cowardice”, Russian soldiers possibly unclear of their cause (i.e., are they fighting in Syria for Syrian or Russian interests?).

The SAA’s declination to fight is certainly the proximal cause of failure. But as Alastair Crooke explained, the SAA wasn’t getting paid enough, and this not suddenly. “Intelligence” includes assessments of morale and motivation among the enlisted. Susceptibilities to payoff and desertion can be estimated. The necessary interface with Assad’s military to do so existed if in fact Russia was trying to help Assad modernize and reform his military, as you assert. Were Russian military trainers unaware their trainees were being paid $5 per month?

Believing armies run on courage, loyalty, and patriotic devotion alone is delusional thinking. Russia has experience with the mix of money and loyalty necessary to keep a soldier. In a moment of battle, courage counts for everything. In the longer term, money matters more, if only to get you to the point where courage will make the difference.

Russia’s eviction from Syria follows a failure to anticipate what happened. If Russia had a full understanding of the stresses building despite or following Astana, but also intended to vacate and fully abandon Syria (the result now in place), would they not have been preparing to do so on their own terms and schedule? Was Russia’s departure so orderly as to suggest they knew beforehand what was ongoing?

If not as a result of intelligence failure, how is it that Putin was surprised by Georgia 2008, Maidan 2013, Nord Stream 2022, Kursk 2024, Georgia 2024? Did he get reporting, but paid it no attention? Again and again?

I have no idea how intelligent you are — I said you wrote a ‘a ridiculous pseudo-intellectual screed’ — some intelligent people do occasionally write such stuff.

And I don’t really care about your opinion regarding what ‘armies run on’, nor about the opinion of someone less ‘delusional’ than me on that subject.

I said the Assad regime collapsed because his military didn’t fight — which is true — if his military had been willing to fight, Assad would still be in Damascus.

Is Putin your hero? Is it too difficult to understand that the Kabuki is chock full of players including Assad?

They could all be actors in a great big kabuki theater. It certainly has that feeling to it. If some national leader is offered nearly unlimited wealth and power to serve the kabuki agenda, with many people waiting in line behind him if that person says no, then it’s possible. But the world seems too big for it to be as simple as you suggest, and it is demoralizing for us to think that there is no hope.

Do you think it’s some kind of 1984-type situation, where Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania? Or are you thinking of something more like the Matrix?

It appears obvious to me. Sure, there is some natural occurrences, but I think there is some plan being carried out which ultimately involves these foils.

In other words, if I see them on TV (know liars) then they are suspect.