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Consequent to my post Categorizing the Russia Debate and the lively debate it spawned, it occurred to me that much of Russia’s tortured and intriguing history could be rationalized as a self-reinforcing loop within a belief matrix. This can even be extended further to many other societies – I will also have similar posts up for a) Germany’s “Reich cycles”, b) America’s “liberty cycles” and c) the continuous “radical redefining of terms” that characterized Soviet history from 1914 to 1953. Here I will focus on outlining my theoretical framework (the concept of a belief matrix); then I will post about how it can be applied to different societies.

My assumption is that societies can be defined along two axes – their degree of ease with themselves, and with the West. By the latter, I mean specifically the Idea of the West: acceptance of the scientific method; rule of law; economic rationalism; and liberalism. An important semantic point is that these should not be conflated with “Western countries” (the US, the UK, France, etc); though they have, by most measures, internalized the Idea of the West to a far greater extent than most other cultures, they cannot ever reach unity with it because they are, at root, organic, human societies, whereas the Idea of the West is an absolute.

The other axis denotes how content a civilization is with its traditions. The default steady state is acceptive; though occasionally challenged by dissidents who reject tradition, society is characterized by a state of sobornost – a deep sense of spiritual harmony amongst classes, regions, races and sexes. Or as my definition of Russophilia goes, they understand, accept, forgive and unconditionally love their community / nation. This can break down when a culture is faced with unexpected challenges, such as Malthusian crises in the pre-industrial era or contact with the West (or rather its manifestations in British gunships and American multinational companies) in the modern era. In the latter case, society typically enthusiastically embraces the trappings of the West and rejects its own traditions, after viewing them from the Western frame of reference. This causes severe internal dislocations, leading to disillusionment and culminating in a vehement rejection of Western values, to an extent impossible in its absense. One can view Bolshevism, Nazism, fascism and radical Islamism as extreme forms of this rejection (and by rejection, implicit acceptance), relying as they do on Western technics in their attempts to recreate an imagined past.



The “Western countries” are unique in that somehow or other they have succeeded in substantially imprinting the Idea of the West onto their own traditions. This is much harder than it sounds. The scientific method is alien and unfamiliar to the peasant mind filled with images of rain gods and trickster demons. The rule of law cannot sit well in human societies traditionally reliant on communal coercion, “big man” influence and sacrificial scapegoating. Economic rationalism is anathema to subsistence societies, characterized as they are by reciprocal, socially-determined networks of gifts. Market forces, by destroying this communal spirit, would tear these societies apart, hence the universal disdain for merchants, usury, etc, typical of all rural pre-industrial societies (e.g. see Aristotle discovers the economy, Karl Polanyi). And liberalism (rights for all, including minorities) frequently stands in opposition to democracy (the generally anti-market, conformist will of the people).

It is probably no surprise that capitalism and liberalism historically developed most vigorously in the United States, with its abundant high-quality land and scarce labor yielding massive per capita surpluses. The Idea of the West first appeared in the “West” because of the region’s inheritance of Latin (law) and Germanic (customs) traditions, favorable geographic factors (long coastlines, good rivers and fertile, varied climes) and comparatively successful control of population pressures (through fertility suppression – West Europeans married later and had fewer children than most other civilizations, and later outmigration to their colonies). That said, it should be emphasized that even here relations between the West and tradition were uneasy and factitious; as I emphasize again, the Idea of the West is an ideal which humans can only aspire to, but never reach unity with.

Having laid out the basic concepts, it is now time to look at two general cases of human socio-spiritual dynamics: Malthusian (what happens to belief systems when a traditional society exceeds the carrying capacity of the land and begins to fall apart?) and Western (what happens to traditional societies when they come into contact with the West?). Both begin at the same place.

State of Stasis

At first, society is in a state of stasis, of sobornost. As in all traditional societies the individual submits to the communal will and the sovereign will (the Lord, the Emperor, Allah, etc)… and is all the happier for it. From Kundera’s The Unbearable Lightness of Being:

The heaviest of burdens crushes us, we sink beneath it, it pins us to the ground. But in the love poetry of every age, the woman longs to be weighed down by the man’s body. The heaviest of burdens is therefore simultaneously an image of life’s most intense fulfillment. The heavier the burden, the closer our lives come to the earth, the more real and truthful they become. Conversely, the absolute absence of burden causes man to be lighter than air, to soar into heights, take leave of the earth and his earthly being, and become only half real, his movements as free as they are insignificant. What then shall we choose? Weight or lightness?

Hard to comprehend for an individualistic Westerner, perhaps. But this is the way most people lived throughout the eons of human existence. Stadtluft macht frei?? Perhaps Arbeit macht frei isn’t so far off the mark.

(Here I would rush to add the caveat that this only applies to communal work where everyone partakes and lacks knowledge of and is too unimaginative to imagine any “better” alternative, such as aristocratic indolence or financial speculation. This is patently not the case in industrial societies and explains the failure of totalitarian attempts to go back to the future).

The Malthusian Loop

Before the industrial era, all societies were subject to Malthusian dynamics in which population growth saturated the carrying capacity of the land and leveled off at an unstable plateau. The period of high growth was typically regarded as a Golden Age of bucolic virtue (e.g. republican Rome), which I’ve labeled The Rise of Empire. Because of limits to growth, this could not last. Subsistence stress resulted in the growth of cities and large standing armies to soak up the landless poor, and literate bureaucrats to manage the new problems. Paradoxically, even as problems loomed on the horizons many aspects of culture like literacy, inventiveness, etc, flourished. This is because society encouraged its thinkers to “scan” for solutions to these problems.

However, these same cities and intelligentsia fuel feelings of resentment on the part of peasants on account of a) their perceived decadence and lasciviousness and b) the fact that said degenerates are supported by their taxes. To accommodate the rising reaction and diminishing surpluses, politicians and kings are forced to go back to the future. Way back. Quoting from my notes on Tainter’s The Collapse of Complex Societies:

At this point, decomposition rapidly becomes inevitable as “scanning” ceases, for the system no longer has the surpluses to do it. In most cases rigid behavioral controls are imposed, innovation and positive change is stymied and corruption, authoritarianism and feudalism begin to dominate … for society is enslaved to its own myths of superiority and delusions of grandeur.

… Censuses and historical detail thin, as literacy and science declined during this period to be replaced by an “increase in mysticism, and knowledge by revelation”, as well as by “increased propaganda about patriotism, ancient Roman values, and superiority over the barbarians”.

Yet this is only a stopgap measure, for by now eventual demise is inevitable:

Increasingly radical attempts to save the system, even cardinally change it, cannot permanently reserve the trend towards further complexity and disequilibrium; eventually, everyone loses faith in the system and there is a severe collapse. …

… According to RM Adams, “By the fifth century, men were ready to abandon civilization itself in order to escape the fearful load of taxes”. In 476, after being denied payment or settlement in Italy, the Roman barbarian army mutinied, sacked Rome and deposed Romulus Augustus, the last Western Emperor.

In other words, society begins by rejecting the Idea of the West (in those times, “rule of law” and Greek scientific-rationalism), and the state intensifies efforts to both legitimize itself and coerce people into believing in it. But nonetheless, a breaking point is eventually reached and society loses faith in the state (hitherto, tradition), culminating in the collapse of civilization, a prolonged period of anarchy and reversion to older forms of social existence focused on family, clan and community (denoted as The Collapse of Civilization).

During the anarchic period, there is a “radical redefinition of terms” as patriotism (faith in country) goes from being an accepted tradition, to a rejected tradition: for once the Sun dawns over the new Dark Ages, the peasant commune; the manor; self-sufficiency, etc – these are now the new pillars of traditions. Any surviving agents of the state (soldiers turned brigands, renegade tax collectors, the urban intelligentsia, etc) are its enemies.

After a few dark centuries, roving bandits seize permanent control of settlements, and become stationary bandits with an interest in development and permanent extraction instead of pillage. Localism, mysticism, anti-statism, etc, once again become heresies. The specter of the state rises anew, rewinding the loop to Year Zero.

The Sisyphean Loop

When a traditional society comes into contact with the West, there occurs a great deal of turbulence, much like in a society in the throes of Malthusian crisis. This loop is reproduced below:

As attested to by numerous chronicles, first contact with Westerners by less advanced civilizations results in fascination and a determination to catch up, especially to acquire its military-industrial technologies to prevent Western predation. The two cleanest examples of defensive modernizations are seen in Japan during the Tokugawa and Meiji eras, and repeatedly in Russian history (Muscovy under Ivan the Terrible, the Russian Empire under Peter the Great and Alexander II, Stalin, Putin?).

Local traditions are seen as incompatible with modernization and are rejected by the ruling elites, often stirring social unrest as the internal balance of power is disturbed. There occurs a growing gap between the Westernizing elites and the more traditional mass of society. The former come to be seen as foreign leeches on indigenous soil, decadent and degenerate; using the rhetoric of Westernization to feed themselves (e.g. see the French-speaking Tsarist aristocracy). This in turn discredits further Westernization, especially once the easiest (and ostensibly most useful) task of military modernization is completed. The people and the elites lose faith in the West: the former because they associate it with degeneracy and corruption (e.g. the Russian workers and peasants most aware of it: because of the development of railway systems, even a peasant from a rural backwater could now comprehend the parasitic decadence of the Court), the latter because of the shallow nationalism consequent from reinvigorated military, economic and cultural strength accruing from limited modernization. There is a gradual movement now back towards tradition (e.g. Slavophilia, the intelligentsia’s idolization of peasant life, etc).

But now one of two things happens. A part of the elite realizes that their decadence is politically dangerous (a large gap between the masses and the elites presages revolution), and tries to move back towards indigenous traditions – back to the people, so to speak. This is opposed by another part of the elite that has gotten used to its perks and privileges, despite the spiritual anomie in which they are stuck because of this. The ruling elites become disunited and weak; the masses are increasingly disillusioned with the whole system; new ideologues appear, preaching about total rejection of the West (e.g. the Bolsheviks) and a return to an imagined past of purity and virtue, i.e. to tradition (e.g. the radical Islamists who overthrew the Iranian Shah).

There appears a crisis, further straining divisions in the government and polarizing society in general (e.g. World War One). Eventually the government is forced to reform, but alas and alack, as per de Tocqueville the most dangerous moment for a bad government is when it begins to try to get better. By reversing course and showing weakness, it delegitimizes itself in the face of crisis; furthermore, it frequently becomes more democratic just when the people are becoming more hardline, and extremists (Bolsheviks, Islamists, etc) are waiting in the wings. The extremists moderate their positions to win over the people and consolidate their control; after that they unleash terror, taking the country into the far-top fringes of uncompromising rejection of the West. This is the dark region where totalitarianisms rise and democides are unleashed.

On the other hand, if the elite remains united; if the crisis is not very severe; if the people retain a firm belief in the Idea of the West and are unswayed by the extremists, then a more moderate outcome can be expected – a reversion back to the past, the state of stasis, yet having assimilated some elements of the Idea of the West during its loop so now “better” and perhaps “fairer” than before (at least by the standards of more Westernized states). They remain in this comatose state until another shock (e.g. defeat in war by a more Westernized nation, or recognition of weakness) forced them to act, restarting the loop.

Why do I call this a Sisyphean loop? Because while it lasts this basically explains a tortured nation’s attempts to catch up with “the West” (roll the rock to the top of the mountain), but never managing it (the rock keeps going back downhill). This is very pronounced in Russia – it’s entire history since gunpowder Muscovy has been one of quixotic attempts to catch up to and surpass the West, yet which all too often ended in catastrophes wrought of messianic delusions, and prolonged periods of stagnation, decline and frustration. I will explore its dynamics more closely in an upcoming post, focusing on a) the continuous “radical redefining of terms” that characterized Soviet history from 1914 to 1953, b) the belief dynamics of the post-1988 transition and c) its prospects for the future: sovereign democratization (the “Putin Plan” – democratization / Westernization on its own terms / while retaining belief in tradition), return to authoritarian stasis (Russia’s “natural state”, in both meanings of the term), totalitarianism or liberalization?

Yet this is not specific to Russia, it’s just that the overall dynamic is most visible there. Even nominally “Western nations” like the US – that archetype of the West – is imprisoned within the Sisyphean loop. It’s just that through the accumulated circular momentum of liberal tradition, the structure of its political system that moderates sharp swings towards extremism in the population and of the media which muffles extremist voices, and most importantly its reconciliation of liberalism with popular democracy, its “liberty loops” manage to remain anchored firmly within the bottom-right quadrant, well away from the instability brought on by the disillusionment / rejection of tradition of the left, and the totalitarianism of the top. But what makes the US a spiritually much more satisfied nation is that the very organic nature of the integration of its sobornost and Westernism makes Americans unaware that they life in the Belief Matrix, just like everyone else.

Laws of the Matrix

Why do I call it a matrix? a) because it is a matrix / grid, and b) in honor of the films, of course – whereas people believe they have free will, in reality all choices are predetermined and our only task is to try to understand and accept why we made those choices (in itself a Sisyphean-like endeavor – so yes, don’t bother pointing it out, I know I’m in the Matrix too).

Law of Skewed Perspectives – ideologically skewed people have warped perspectives on other people, interpreting moderates as biased; and those slightly biased, as irrevocably so. If political leaders are sufficiently out of sync, then the people are radicalized in the other direction.

Law of Quantum Truth – any individual finds it hard to judge the position of another, including herself; this is best done by a large number of individual, informed observations which tend to build a probability map around the likely position. Malevolent ideological opponents would represent the extreme edges of that probability map as that individual’s true position, whereas in fact it is not (or at least very rarely so).

Law of Circularity – at its extremes, ideologies converge (or flip). For instance, shout very loudly that you are a zealot for progress, justice, freedom, etc, even as your actions forsake those ideals. Examples: Bolsheviks, neocons, liberasts.

Law of Extremism – they tend to flip if they do, but they need to be in separate enclaves to build up into really extremist movements. Violent revolutions tend to happen during agrarian-industrial transitions because you have lots of self-contained classes thinking similarly and very opposed to each other (e.g. urban proletariat, the bourgeoisie, the aristocracy, etc); these differences tend to become less extreme in the later stages of industrialism when there is greater social mobility.

Radical Redefinition of Terms – how traditions are defined, and hence whom the community accepts and whom it rejects. A good illustration is the Russian Revolution: Bolsheviks came from being viewed as traitorous outcasts in 1914, to heroic defenders of the Motherland by 1918 against the foreign-backed Whites – who had themselves become heretics. During the 1930’s, the Party turned on itself and consigned many Old Bolshevik stalwarts into oblivion. Severe shocks can lead to a RRoT from below, while totalitarian regimes can perform RRoT’s from above.

Law of Chaos – big, sudden changes lead to instability, chaos, unpredictability, e.g. after radical redefinition of terms.

Law of Distance and Antipathy – the more distant you are from a certain viewpoint, the more you hate them. Hence the reason moderates are moderates, and extremists are not.

Law of Social Development – agrarian (collective belief → stability, rigidity, conservatism, but catastrophic breakdown if system fails); industrial (less collective, more skeptical, but still similar); post-industrial (atomized, enclave concentrations, very skeptical).

Law of Heresy – the totalitarian mind, in its rejection of the West and fervent rediscovery of traditional belief, views all deviations from orthodoxy as heresy (see Law of Skewed Perspectives, which applies to ideologues).

As commentators Scowspi and Kolya in the Categorizing the Russia Debate discussion noted, true artists are by definition dissidents (at least in the opinion of other dissident artists 😉 ), hence they find life tough in totalitarian societies and may themselves become extreme in their dissidence.

The concept of heresy is alien only to someone who completely internalizes the Idea of the West (this is of course impossible in practice).

Consequences for the Future

We live in a very, very interesting time. I’m sure the next few decades will be far more fun than even the first half of the twentieth century in Europe, though whether this is a good thing is an entirely different question.

1) The Sisyphean Loop will remain as strong as ever as societies try to reconcile their traditions with the West and to internalize the paradox that is liberal democracy. Whereas there have been some major discontinuities this century, the dominant trend is that the power of liberal democracy is taking sway throughout the entire world – if not in reality, at least as an ideal. Practically all nations, except a few in the tortured Dar al-Islam (where Islamism constitutes a major alternative, albeit discredited by rational people), accept liberal democracy as the optimal form of government, much as Fukuyama observed in his “end of history” thesis”.

2) But… there remain lingering attractions for the dark splendor of totalitarian ideologies, which are supported by the eternally valid justifications of moral relativism and post-modernism. All that’s needed is the force to implement it, which is rather lacking as of now…

3) Perhaps not for long though. The Malthusian belief cycle is reasserting itself in the shadows of industrial civilization – the polluted, drying rivers; the depleting oil fields; the melting permafrost releasing Siberian methane into the atmosphere; failed states and spreading chaos; the democratization of the means of making terror from the state to the individual.

4) Right now, I would say the world as a whole turned a corner with the 2008 Crisis (a much less noticed, but in reality more significant thing about that date is that it was most likely the year of peak oil production). “Scanning” was much in progress during the 1970’s-2000’s (clean energy, “sustainable development”, etc), when energy and ecological problems first made themselves felt. I think the 2010’s will see a heightened period of chaos, governments everywhere will become more authoritarian and new colonial empires will emerge. “Scanning” will within one to two decades be suppressed and confined within certain parameters as governments begin to chronically fear instability and collapse, fear that nothing they can do will save their societies from collapse. (They are already preparing: note the proliferation of CCTV cameras, databases, militarized security forces, etc). Quite possibly questioning the health and desirability of industrial civilization will come to be classed as subversive, perhaps under the rubric of the war against terror.

5) Then there’s the Internet and connectivity. Though often touted as democratizing and enlightening, this is not always the case: totalitarianism becomes more total than anything dreamt up by the despots of yore in the age of ubiquitous mass surveillance, and extremism is honed, not blunted (see enclave extremism). Like all previous technologies, the Internet cannot be anything more than a reflection of the society that exploits it. And our societies do not appear to have bright futures ahead of them…

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  1. Awesome analysis.

    Being a fan of Fukuyama almost to religious fervor sometimes 😉 , I especially like the juxtapositions of points 1) and 2) above:

    My personal thoughts are that not a lot of intellectuals liked Fukuyama’s thesis primarily because they misinterpreted it, as you pointed out in a previous post. One reason they misinterpreted it was because of it poor labeling: history wasn’t ending, merely the philosophical evolution of industrial capitalist societies was ending. Take out any one of those adjectives and the thesis needs reworking.

    Of course, one contradiction that still exists, even in all things being equal, is the fact that liberal democracy, as a method of reconciling the need for recognition with the need for individual rights, still fails to reconcile the fact that industrial/specialized societies have some form of social mobility, which allows the desire for recognition to fuse with the desire for power, and its short history on Earth does not yet indicate that liberal democracy can prevent, say, a talented financier from becoming a totalitarian dictator.

    Being a beneficiary of Western universalism, I love its results, but being a human being, I still want to have ever more: more power, more recognition, and at the root I think that comes down to the ultimate human desire: that power and recognition often get rewarded with undeserved surpluses from others. Meaning, in effect, more leisure.

    A great shortcut, which is also quite subversive, is just learning to live with less surplus in a society obsessed with surplus, and therefore reject the whole struggle for recognition in the first place. Makes a great alternative and helps one more objectively watch the whole show from the sidelines 😉

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    @Mark Arsenal


    Of course, one contradiction that still exists, even in all things being equal, is the fact that liberal democracy, as a method of reconciling the need for recognition with the need for individual rights, still fails to reconcile the fact that industrial/specialized societies have some form of social mobility, which allows the desire for recognition to fuse with the desire for power, and its short history on Earth does not yet indicate that liberal democracy can prevent, say, a talented financier from becoming a totalitarian dictator.
     
    I don't really agree with this. The desire for power mostly is a desire for recognition, and the easiest way to do it is through electoral politics. It will be extremely hard for any one financier to subvert this process because all other social parties will be opposed; thus, this is the great strength of liberal democracy.

    The real problems start when liberal democracy starts becoming discredited, e.g. because of some economic failure. If people become disillusioned with it, then that same wily financier (or more likely the person he backs - see the friendship between Hitler and the German tycoons) can become a totalitarian dictator.

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  2. Actually, on Russian society a better description is a pendulum swinging between openness to the outside world and disillusionment and closeness. As Russians we, of course, take things to extremes, at one point idolizing foreigners and damning our own and then the reverse. It usually happens because the foreigners never live up to the PR they themselves present and we believe, but we have an ingrained paranoia that we are not as good as the foreigners and this in turn eventually leads us back to open up.

  3. I’ll be going away for a few days on very short notice, but just a quick point. I think that there is a certain paradox about the west, which is that the more it appears to be idealistic, the more that is a sign of apathy.

    One of the things I like about SO is that Anatoly is not afraid to call himself a hypocrite or acknowledge that there is a lot that is false in his world view. I am the same. I’m a Brit isolationist Social democrat who was born when this ideology went balls up, and have only known neo-conservative, neo-liberal Britain. I know that I might have been pissed off living through the unionised 60s/70s yet still think it would be preferable.

    However, it seems when Britain was in my idealised never-experienced golden age, people were far more political and opinionated. America really had Britain by the gonads during the 60s because we still had not paid back Atlee’s loan. LBJ could have pulled the plug on us, yet Wilson did not commit troops to ‘Westernise’ Viet Nam because his government would fall apart and Britain could see civil war.

    Yet by contrast Britain is now apparently ready to invade any country the USA tells us to, and the media is full of bullshit about ‘Putin’s Russia’ (isn’t it awful when the Hitler of the moment accepts constitutional power limits? He’s making it look like he isn’t a tyrant) most Brits probably couldn’t find Russia on the map. If I really wanted to destroy and westernise a country, I’d export daytime TV there. It destroyed Britain. Ironically enough, whilst Brits like to see themselves as part of a smaller America, I think due to the climate and their traditional values multiculturalism, America has not been harmed as much by TV.

    Anyway, getting off track. My main point is that Britain came to have imperialist ambitions because of apathy rather than because of fervour. The majority of Brits (from what I have read) oppose the ongoing war in Afghanistan, yet are about the elect a PM who wants to clear protestors away from Downing Street (though of course would be the first to self-righteously condemn Chavez for doing something similar). Whilst most Brits care more about Strictly Come Dancing than the tribal politics of Northern Georgia, they are going to elect someone who thinks that Saakashvilli should be rewarded with NATO membership for bombing his own people.

    As for Western concepts of Liberty, I think that this is ambiguous. I was recently debating this with a Romanian friend. He was saying that he liked the way that Brits traditionally trusted their police officers, but I think that opened the way for our CCTV/ DNA database/ absurd ID cards that makes Britain one of the least free countries in the West, and makes it ripe for a police state. I think ideal liberty is possible and unattainable, so my ‘ideal’ is more like Greece where smirking politicians in shiny suits are trusted to manage infrastructure projects but treated with contempt and scepticism by the general population.

    Gotto get bags packed. Hope this post made some sense.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Gregor

    Hope you have a nice trip, Gregor!

    I think fervor can be directed in different ways. For instance, there was a great deal of "fervor" under Mao's Cultural Revolution or Stalin's purges, but it was directed within. Other nations like Germany and Japan mostly channeled it outside.

  4. Following up on what has been said, purported idealism isn’t always what it appears to be.

    Over the course of time, the otherwise noble issue of human rights has been used as a propaganda tool.

    A country on better diplomatic terms with the US and UK will likely get better spin. On a BBC telecast of this morning, Georgia is uncritically referred to as a democracy.

    Touching on a point raised by Stas, one should be wary of being so quick to blame or laud one person. This relates to a point I made on how a great coach can only do so much to improve a not so talented team and how a talented team can win despite some not so good coaching.

  5. @Gregor
    I’ll be going away for a few days on very short notice, but just a quick point. I think that there is a certain paradox about the west, which is that the more it appears to be idealistic, the more that is a sign of apathy.

    One of the things I like about SO is that Anatoly is not afraid to call himself a hypocrite or acknowledge that there is a lot that is false in his world view. I am the same. I’m a Brit isolationist Social democrat who was born when this ideology went balls up, and have only known neo-conservative, neo-liberal Britain. I know that I might have been pissed off living through the unionised 60s/70s yet still think it would be preferable.

    However, it seems when Britain was in my idealised never-experienced golden age, people were far more political and opinionated. America really had Britain by the gonads during the 60s because we still had not paid back Atlee’s loan. LBJ could have pulled the plug on us, yet Wilson did not commit troops to ‘Westernise’ Viet Nam because his government would fall apart and Britain could see civil war.

    Yet by contrast Britain is now apparently ready to invade any country the USA tells us to, and the media is full of bullshit about ‘Putin’s Russia’ (isn’t it awful when the Hitler of the moment accepts constitutional power limits? He’s making it look like he isn’t a tyrant) most Brits probably couldn’t find Russia on the map. If I really wanted to destroy and westernise a country, I’d export daytime TV there. It destroyed Britain. Ironically enough, whilst Brits like to see themselves as part of a smaller America, I think due to the climate and their traditional values multiculturalism, America has not been harmed as much by TV.

    Anyway, getting off track. My main point is that Britain came to have imperialist ambitions because of apathy rather than because of fervour. The majority of Brits (from what I have read) oppose the ongoing war in Afghanistan, yet are about the elect a PM who wants to clear protestors away from Downing Street (though of course would be the first to self-righteously condemn Chavez for doing something similar). Whilst most Brits care more about Strictly Come Dancing than the tribal politics of Northern Georgia, they are going to elect someone who thinks that Saakashvilli should be rewarded with NATO membership for bombing his own people.

    As for Western concepts of Liberty, I think that this is ambiguous. I was recently debating this with a Romanian friend. He was saying that he liked the way that Brits traditionally trusted their police officers, but I think that opened the way for our CCTV/ DNA database/ absurd ID cards that makes Britain one of the least free countries in the West, and makes it ripe for a police state. I think ideal liberty is possible and unattainable, so my ‘ideal’ is more like Greece where smirking politicians in shiny suits are trusted to manage infrastructure projects but treated with contempt and scepticism by the general population.

    Gotto get bags packed. Hope this post made some sense.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Hope you have a nice trip, Gregor!

    I think fervor can be directed in different ways. For instance, there was a great deal of “fervor” under Mao’s Cultural Revolution or Stalin’s purges, but it was directed within. Other nations like Germany and Japan mostly channeled it outside.

  6. @Mark Arsenal
    Awesome analysis.

    Being a fan of Fukuyama almost to religious fervor sometimes ;) , I especially like the juxtapositions of points 1) and 2) above:

    My personal thoughts are that not a lot of intellectuals liked Fukuyama's thesis primarily because they misinterpreted it, as you pointed out in a previous post. One reason they misinterpreted it was because of it poor labeling: history wasn't ending, merely the philosophical evolution of industrial capitalist societies was ending. Take out any one of those adjectives and the thesis needs reworking.

    Of course, one contradiction that still exists, even in all things being equal, is the fact that liberal democracy, as a method of reconciling the need for recognition with the need for individual rights, still fails to reconcile the fact that industrial/specialized societies have some form of social mobility, which allows the desire for recognition to fuse with the desire for power, and its short history on Earth does not yet indicate that liberal democracy can prevent, say, a talented financier from becoming a totalitarian dictator.

    Being a beneficiary of Western universalism, I love its results, but being a human being, I still want to have ever more: more power, more recognition, and at the root I think that comes down to the ultimate human desire: that power and recognition often get rewarded with undeserved surpluses from others. Meaning, in effect, more leisure.

    A great shortcut, which is also quite subversive, is just learning to live with less surplus in a society obsessed with surplus, and therefore reject the whole struggle for recognition in the first place. Makes a great alternative and helps one more objectively watch the whole show from the sidelines ;)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Of course, one contradiction that still exists, even in all things being equal, is the fact that liberal democracy, as a method of reconciling the need for recognition with the need for individual rights, still fails to reconcile the fact that industrial/specialized societies have some form of social mobility, which allows the desire for recognition to fuse with the desire for power, and its short history on Earth does not yet indicate that liberal democracy can prevent, say, a talented financier from becoming a totalitarian dictator.

    I don’t really agree with this. The desire for power mostly is a desire for recognition, and the easiest way to do it is through electoral politics. It will be extremely hard for any one financier to subvert this process because all other social parties will be opposed; thus, this is the great strength of liberal democracy.

    The real problems start when liberal democracy starts becoming discredited, e.g. because of some economic failure. If people become disillusioned with it, then that same wily financier (or more likely the person he backs – see the friendship between Hitler and the German tycoons) can become a totalitarian dictator.

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    @Anatoly Karlin

    Here's some data to back up my lack of faith in Democracy:

    http://badmoneyadvice.com/2009/07/interesting-polling-numbers.html

    "Should you need more reasons to reconsider this whole democracy thing, you can examine the results of a June 2007 survey on the origins of species. When asked their opinion of "Evolution, that is, the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life" 53% said it was either definitely or probably true. That’s a little low, but at least it is a majority."

    I guess it ultimately goes back to that whole narcissistic need to assume that I as an individual am more important (to me) than the good of the polity or society, and generally a society when acting as a single entity does not have a problem sacrificing the individual, and that scares the shit out of me.

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    this is a good discussion, but i think we need to keep in mind that by “the West” we must be implying capitalism. and if we’re talking about capitalism, there are many more important reasons why a society would want to keep it at arm’s length.

    for instance you say “It is probably no surprise that capitalism and liberalism historically developed most vigorously in the United States, with its abundant high-quality land and scarce labor yielding massive per capita surpluses.”

    but let us never forget that US capitalism developed precisely by committing genocide against the millions of native people who inhabited this “abundant high-quality land”.

    likewise in terms of labor, we can never erase the painful history of enslavement of millions of Africans, whose unpaid labor created much of these “surpluses.”

    i recommend Naomi Klein’s book “The Shock Doctrine” which talks about the ways capitalism takes advantage of crises, or even creates them, in order to propagate itself. she talks specifically about Russia and how Yeltsin burning the parliament allowed him to push through painful “liberal” reforms that created far more suffering.

    worth reading.

    alex
    endofcapitalism.com

  8. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Mark Arsenal


    Of course, one contradiction that still exists, even in all things being equal, is the fact that liberal democracy, as a method of reconciling the need for recognition with the need for individual rights, still fails to reconcile the fact that industrial/specialized societies have some form of social mobility, which allows the desire for recognition to fuse with the desire for power, and its short history on Earth does not yet indicate that liberal democracy can prevent, say, a talented financier from becoming a totalitarian dictator.
     
    I don't really agree with this. The desire for power mostly is a desire for recognition, and the easiest way to do it is through electoral politics. It will be extremely hard for any one financier to subvert this process because all other social parties will be opposed; thus, this is the great strength of liberal democracy.

    The real problems start when liberal democracy starts becoming discredited, e.g. because of some economic failure. If people become disillusioned with it, then that same wily financier (or more likely the person he backs - see the friendship between Hitler and the German tycoons) can become a totalitarian dictator.

    Replies: @Mark Arsenal

    Here’s some data to back up my lack of faith in Democracy:

    http://badmoneyadvice.com/2009/07/interesting-polling-numbers.html

    “Should you need more reasons to reconsider this whole democracy thing, you can examine the results of a June 2007 survey on the origins of species. When asked their opinion of “Evolution, that is, the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life” 53% said it was either definitely or probably true. That’s a little low, but at least it is a majority.”

    I guess it ultimately goes back to that whole narcissistic need to assume that I as an individual am more important (to me) than the good of the polity or society, and generally a society when acting as a single entity does not have a problem sacrificing the individual, and that scares the shit out of me.

  9. I’ve been looking for a blog like this for a year. Spasiba i Slava bratu Karlinu! I’d like to add that Orthodoxy & a large % of R1a IndoEuropean haplogroup, make Russians the most resilient of Whites & that these genetic & spiritual factors combined actualy make stiffling the aptly named Sisyphian Loop easiest for the Russian people. Greetings from Serbia. Budite Zdorovi. We are one Slavyanski Rod. Pamyat.

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