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Here’s a new Open Thread for all of you. To minimize the load, please continue to limit your Tweets or place them under a MORE tag.

For those interested, here are my two most recent pieces. The first marked the one year anniversary of the October 7th attacks and argued that although the military consequences of the Israeli response are difficult to fully evaluate, the informational impact of the last twelve months might well lead to the destruction of both the State of Israel and Jewish power worldwide. Meanwhile, the second recapitulated the growth of my own willingness to accept the reality of some “conspiracy theories” as well as my belief that a large majority of them are false, sometimes deliberately promoted to disrupt and damage sincere conspiratorial research.

I’d also strongly recommend a couple of documentaries released on that anniversary by the Al Jazeera network and the Grayzone:

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https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1843318219404186024

 
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  1. Korean troops in Kursk Oblast…discuss.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    18 Korean soldiers flee frontlines in Kursk. A new level of Russian desperation:

    https://youtu.be/YWMIQq8UgmM

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Beckow
    @Wokechoke

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do...

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels...if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city....poor guys, north and south.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    , @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke

    How well substantiated?

    , @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Would not have thought it remotely possible, but Ukraine is actually living the plot of the remake of Red Dawn where they spent a fortune turning Chinese troops into Norks, using CGI.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  2. @Wokechoke
    Korean troops in Kursk Oblast…discuss.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail, @songbird

    18 Korean soldiers flee frontlines in Kursk. A new level of Russian desperation:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The important part is at 2:19, "...North Korea has mobilized as much as 1.4 million of its citizens to fight, in what they call, a Holy War."

    I don't think the DPRK wants to destroy Seoul. I wonder if they would nuke Japan to keep South Korea (the West) from crossing the DMZ?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west


    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.
     
    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.
     
    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you're right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren't the people of 1939-45 - and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin's Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What's in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    We are reaching the "acceptance" stage at last.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

  3. @Wokechoke
    Korean troops in Kursk Oblast…discuss.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail, @songbird

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do…

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels…if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city….poor guys, north and south.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    The whole world gets to get buried in Kursk!

    Johnson first thought!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    living in their wooden hovels
     
    Are these SK "hovels" really any worse than these North Korean ones?

    https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/072224_NorthKoreaViews_h01_StefanBruder.jpg


    if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city
     
    Can't be much worse than where you pick up your daily Slovakian hootch?

    https://cdni.russiatoday.com/rbthmedia/images/2019.10/original/5db04c9715e9f96fc1407259.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow

    Some of us think the Korean chicks are pretty OK. Once in a while the local mega church sends them out in packs to recruit. If I was twenty years younger I would be tempted.

    Absolutely. Well P~.999 to be more realistic.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Dmitry
    @Beckow

    Living in South Korea can't be so bad nowadays.

    Look what happens with their life expectancy compared even to postcommunist states which joined the EU and received vast EU wealth transfers.

    They moved from a third world country to above Norway and Sweden in this indicator, this looks like unusually fast development.

    https://i.imgur.com/Ga6MkYj.jpeg

  4. @Beckow
    @Wokechoke

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do...

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels...if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city....poor guys, north and south.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    The whole world gets to get buried in Kursk!

    Johnson first thought!

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean "enlistees", to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees. :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

  5. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    18 Korean soldiers flee frontlines in Kursk. A new level of Russian desperation:

    https://youtu.be/YWMIQq8UgmM

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    The important part is at 2:19, “…North Korea has mobilized as much as 1.4 million of its citizens to fight, in what they call, a Holy War.”

    I don’t think the DPRK wants to destroy Seoul. I wonder if they would nuke Japan to keep South Korea (the West) from crossing the DMZ?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    So, you've added North Korea to your list of countries that you root for? According to your monotonous rhetoric, the world needs to encourage the return of the south to the north in an act of appeasing reunification? :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-michael-collins-piper-miles-mathis-and-proving-pi-4/#comment-6814795

    Replies: @QCIC

  6. @Beckow
    @Wokechoke

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do...

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels...if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city....poor guys, north and south.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    living in their wooden hovels

    Are these SK “hovels” really any worse than these North Korean ones?

    if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city

    Can’t be much worse than where you pick up your daily Slovakian hootch?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    That's in Asia, Korea? Are you confused? The second one looks 100+ years old. Do you also keep 1930's US Depression pictures?

    But feast you eyes on this (at 1:50 the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMEmZ-t5MA&t=166s

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  7. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The important part is at 2:19, "...North Korea has mobilized as much as 1.4 million of its citizens to fight, in what they call, a Holy War."

    I don't think the DPRK wants to destroy Seoul. I wonder if they would nuke Japan to keep South Korea (the West) from crossing the DMZ?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard

    So, you’ve added North Korea to your list of countries that you root for? According to your monotonous rhetoric, the world needs to encourage the return of the south to the north in an act of appeasing reunification? 🙁

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I think the two halves of Korea would have organically reunited a long time ago without outside interference. I don't approve of dictatorships (DPRK) or Imperial vassal states (ROK) but no Koreans have asked for my advice. Interestingly, there are a number of similarities between DPRK and Ukraine.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  8. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    living in their wooden hovels
     
    Are these SK "hovels" really any worse than these North Korean ones?

    https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/072224_NorthKoreaViews_h01_StefanBruder.jpg


    if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city
     
    Can't be much worse than where you pick up your daily Slovakian hootch?

    https://cdni.russiatoday.com/rbthmedia/images/2019.10/original/5db04c9715e9f96fc1407259.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    That’s in Asia, Korea? Are you confused? The second one looks 100+ years old. Do you also keep 1930’s US Depression pictures?

    But feast you eyes on this (at 1:50 the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators):

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    That’s in Asia, Korea? Are you confused?
     
    What's the matter, still groggy from last night's partying? You can't see the Korean shrift on the building? :-)

    The second one looks 100+ years old.
     
    I didn't check the date of the photo. You mean the distillery where you shop looks different?

    the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators
     
    You guys still haven't been liberated. Keep on singing! :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

  9. @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    The whole world gets to get buried in Kursk!

    Johnson first thought!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean “enlistees”, to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees. 🙂

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    You should be in the Ukrainian units invading Kursk Oblast too!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean “enlistees”, to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees.

    My guess is that they are sending NK soldiers on suicide missions into Kursk.

    One way ticket for everyone. Their lives were already purchased.

    If they desert then they still have to escape Russia. Kursk is showing rain this weekend with a 32 degree low.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  10. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The important part is at 2:19, "...North Korea has mobilized as much as 1.4 million of its citizens to fight, in what they call, a Holy War."

    I don't think the DPRK wants to destroy Seoul. I wonder if they would nuke Japan to keep South Korea (the West) from crossing the DMZ?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    I think these investigations by Ron, Miles and the rest are like baseball. People want these things to be like science or Sherlock Holmes with definitive answers, but they are not. The reasons you mention are part of this situation. The hitter, let's call him Ron, knocks a few out of the park. But then he strikes out. For most hitters there are a lot more strike outs than hits, much less home runs. For a phenom like Ron, maybe he crushes it and bats 300, year after year. If people think this process is science that looks terrible. If they think of baseball, then wow, everything makes sense! Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF? But he shows up the next season and hits 350.

    I saw your comment the first time and thought you were high. Not that I disagree.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  11. @Beckow
    @Wokechoke

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do...

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels...if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city....poor guys, north and south.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    Some of us think the Korean chicks are pretty OK. Once in a while the local mega church sends them out in packs to recruit. If I was twenty years younger I would be tempted.

    Absolutely. Well P~.999 to be more realistic.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @emil nikola richard


    ...Some of us think the Korean chicks are pretty OK.
     
    That's not inconsistent, many of the best have always come from the wooden hovels...but I have been to Seoul, it reeks of garlic, has the worst traffic jams, very unimpressive architecture and they hate Japs. I hear the Norks have it even worse. Maybe they should fight it out in Kursk...it is getting interesting...
  12. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean "enlistees", to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees. :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    You should be in the Ukrainian units invading Kursk Oblast too!

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    I would, but am afraid that I'd run into you in the Orc army, and fear being another sacrifice to your macho fighting skills. :-(

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  13. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    So, you've added North Korea to your list of countries that you root for? According to your monotonous rhetoric, the world needs to encourage the return of the south to the north in an act of appeasing reunification? :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the two halves of Korea would have organically reunited a long time ago without outside interference. I don’t approve of dictatorships (DPRK) or Imperial vassal states (ROK) but no Koreans have asked for my advice. Interestingly, there are a number of similarities between DPRK and Ukraine.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    One is essentially Russo Sino influenced and the other (US via) Japan influenced. It’s been like this for 1000 years. Just with added US influence and Russian influence.

    Replies: @QCIC

  14. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I think the two halves of Korea would have organically reunited a long time ago without outside interference. I don't approve of dictatorships (DPRK) or Imperial vassal states (ROK) but no Koreans have asked for my advice. Interestingly, there are a number of similarities between DPRK and Ukraine.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    One is essentially Russo Sino influenced and the other (US via) Japan influenced. It’s been like this for 1000 years. Just with added US influence and Russian influence.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    I suspect the very harsh US war against North Korea strongly polarized them against outsiders and greatly strengthened the founding myths of the Kim dynasty.

    Were the different groups always divided geographically, North versus South? I knew the country had factions but probably assumed these were mixed throughout the peninsula.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  15. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-michael-collins-piper-miles-mathis-and-proving-pi-4/#comment-6814795

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think these investigations by Ron, Miles and the rest are like baseball. People want these things to be like science or Sherlock Holmes with definitive answers, but they are not. The reasons you mention are part of this situation. The hitter, let’s call him Ron, knocks a few out of the park. But then he strikes out. For most hitters there are a lot more strike outs than hits, much less home runs. For a phenom like Ron, maybe he crushes it and bats 300, year after year. If people think this process is science that looks terrible. If they think of baseball, then wow, everything makes sense! Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF? But he shows up the next season and hits 350.

    I saw your comment the first time and thought you were high. Not that I disagree.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    Ha ha.

    So what exactly do you make of the Mathis obsession with little girls?

    It could of course be a contingency in that is where his market is to be found. I consider that highly unlikely.

    Replies: @QCIC

  16. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    That's in Asia, Korea? Are you confused? The second one looks 100+ years old. Do you also keep 1930's US Depression pictures?

    But feast you eyes on this (at 1:50 the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMEmZ-t5MA&t=166s

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    That’s in Asia, Korea? Are you confused?

    What’s the matter, still groggy from last night’s partying? You can’t see the Korean shrift on the building? 🙂

    The second one looks 100+ years old.

    I didn’t check the date of the photo. You mean the distillery where you shop looks different?

    the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators

    You guys still haven’t been liberated. Keep on singing! 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Korean shrift on the building?
     
    I think you mean script...:) But I can't tell the Asian pictorial writings apart.

    didn’t check the date of the photo
     
    Well, it's rather old looking, matte-shine finish, I would guess Depression era. Is that something you relate to?

    You guys still haven’t been liberated
     
    Liberated? From what? I don't get your meaning...Should we have more rainbow-POC-Third World sh.tholes around us? Some dancing cholas? You seem confused, must be the Scottsdale hell-heat. Or we will nuke Russia!!! Ukies' ongoing collapse...


    Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALtzTmPz-E

  17. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    You should be in the Ukrainian units invading Kursk Oblast too!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I would, but am afraid that I’d run into you in the Orc army, and fear being another sacrifice to your macho fighting skills. 🙁

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Now it’s the NorK army anyway. Avoiding a land war in Russia is high on my list btw.

  18. Does blackwashing get a bad rap? Or even not go far enough?

    Ex: What if someone made a movie about Cromwell in Ireland, and, updated it to current times, making him and his troops black and equipping them with African accoutrements? (To celebrate African culture)

    Conversely, the other standpoint could be told, by making the Irish black and setting it in Africa.

    This sort of trick could be used for many historical European conflicts to get around the political perils of reopening old wounds. Seven Years’ War. Thirty Years’ War. Napoleon. World Wars. Etc. Etc.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    Actually, I could see an "Irish" version where the evil Cromwellian Brits are all white but the defenders of say Drogheda* are a mixed bunch including blacks and Asians.

    * the defenders of Drogheda actually included English Royalists

    Replies: @songbird

  19. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    I think these investigations by Ron, Miles and the rest are like baseball. People want these things to be like science or Sherlock Holmes with definitive answers, but they are not. The reasons you mention are part of this situation. The hitter, let's call him Ron, knocks a few out of the park. But then he strikes out. For most hitters there are a lot more strike outs than hits, much less home runs. For a phenom like Ron, maybe he crushes it and bats 300, year after year. If people think this process is science that looks terrible. If they think of baseball, then wow, everything makes sense! Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF? But he shows up the next season and hits 350.

    I saw your comment the first time and thought you were high. Not that I disagree.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Ha ha.

    So what exactly do you make of the Mathis obsession with little girls?

    It could of course be a contingency in that is where his market is to be found. I consider that highly unlikely.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    I think Miles creates paintings of females as a specialty. He doesn't seem obsessed with women or girls as far as I can tell. Most painters love beauty and women are the definition of beauty. Girls are not beautiful, but they grow into women who can be. I take this all at face value since I do not think his works are creepy. My perception is that parents regularly pay for paintings of their children since those are generally more memorable than paintings of older people. That is why a painting of a youthful kid is valuable to the family. The painting is the result of a process not just a quick snap of a phone camera and is therefore more memorable, especially if the painting is well done.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  20. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    Ha ha.

    So what exactly do you make of the Mathis obsession with little girls?

    It could of course be a contingency in that is where his market is to be found. I consider that highly unlikely.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think Miles creates paintings of females as a specialty. He doesn’t seem obsessed with women or girls as far as I can tell. Most painters love beauty and women are the definition of beauty. Girls are not beautiful, but they grow into women who can be. I take this all at face value since I do not think his works are creepy. My perception is that parents regularly pay for paintings of their children since those are generally more memorable than paintings of older people. That is why a painting of a youthful kid is valuable to the family. The painting is the result of a process not just a quick snap of a phone camera and is therefore more memorable, especially if the painting is well done.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    This is a subset of my contingency set. Anyway . . .


    Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF?
     
    This is the thread that can be pulled out a very long ways. He should have lunch with RFK Jr. is who he should have lunch with.

    Have you ever read the Jon Rappaport Michael Medvadoy interview? There is some great stuff in there. It was on the web the last time I looked for it around a year ago but I cannot find it now. The salient parts are the medical establishment social capital, or doctors are now our gods. Close personal experience with medical goofs might be an unfortunate but requisite initiation to the True Facts.

    Replies: @QCIC

  21. The final race of the season for IMSA — Petit Le Mans (10 Hour)

    PEACE 😇

  22. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    One is essentially Russo Sino influenced and the other (US via) Japan influenced. It’s been like this for 1000 years. Just with added US influence and Russian influence.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I suspect the very harsh US war against North Korea strongly polarized them against outsiders and greatly strengthened the founding myths of the Kim dynasty.

    Were the different groups always divided geographically, North versus South? I knew the country had factions but probably assumed these were mixed throughout the peninsula.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    There’s often been a northern and southern kingdom.

  23. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    I would, but am afraid that I'd run into you in the Orc army, and fear being another sacrifice to your macho fighting skills. :-(

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Now it’s the NorK army anyway. Avoiding a land war in Russia is high on my list btw.

  24. @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    I suspect the very harsh US war against North Korea strongly polarized them against outsiders and greatly strengthened the founding myths of the Kim dynasty.

    Were the different groups always divided geographically, North versus South? I knew the country had factions but probably assumed these were mixed throughout the peninsula.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    There’s often been a northern and southern kingdom.

    • Thanks: QCIC
  25. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    That’s in Asia, Korea? Are you confused?
     
    What's the matter, still groggy from last night's partying? You can't see the Korean shrift on the building? :-)

    The second one looks 100+ years old.
     
    I didn't check the date of the photo. You mean the distillery where you shop looks different?

    the memorial for our 1945 Russian liberators
     
    You guys still haven't been liberated. Keep on singing! :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Korean shrift on the building?

    I think you mean script…:) But I can’t tell the Asian pictorial writings apart.

    didn’t check the date of the photo

    Well, it’s rather old looking, matte-shine finish, I would guess Depression era. Is that something you relate to?

    You guys still haven’t been liberated

    Liberated? From what? I don’t get your meaning…Should we have more rainbow-POC-Third World sh.tholes around us? Some dancing cholas? You seem confused, must be the Scottsdale hell-heat. Or we will nuke Russia!!! Ukies’ ongoing collapse…

    Enjoy:

  26. Maybe China should give the Norks a little slap on the wrist. They really need to take a seat, as they’ve gotten totally hyperactive.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    Like the chinky chonks don’t have the whip hand in North Korea anyway…lol.

    Who is to say that the Chinese are not already in country.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    I suspect that the extent of China's influence on North Korea is relatively limited. I mean, sure, China can improve crippling economic sanctions on North Korea, but that might simply mean that more Norks starve to death instead of having the Nork regime actually significantly alter its behavior in a meaningful way.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Sean
    @LatW

    People who think like you used to allege that Ukraine had supplied NK with ICBM technology.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  27. @LatW
    Maybe China should give the Norks a little slap on the wrist. They really need to take a seat, as they've gotten totally hyperactive.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    Like the chinky chonks don’t have the whip hand in North Korea anyway…lol.

    Who is to say that the Chinese are not already in country.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    There is an army of Chinese observing the American observation force. I wonder how many of the American satellites they could wipe out in one minute of hot hostilities.

    Did you see that story about the UFO drones?

    (Don't ask these imbeciles how it can be identified as a drone AND unidentified.)

    https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-news/drones-are-surveilling-americas-most-sensitive-military-sites/

  28. @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    Like the chinky chonks don’t have the whip hand in North Korea anyway…lol.

    Who is to say that the Chinese are not already in country.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    There is an army of Chinese observing the American observation force. I wonder how many of the American satellites they could wipe out in one minute of hot hostilities.

    Did you see that story about the UFO drones?

    (Don’t ask these imbeciles how it can be identified as a drone AND unidentified.)

    https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-news/drones-are-surveilling-americas-most-sensitive-military-sites/

  29. Some old gaffer told me something the other day that amazed me:

    He said that his dryer from the ’70s had broken recently and he had fixed it.

    It’s mind boggling: something with moving parts. He has a widower, but had had a big family – I don’t think they had ever used a clothesline that I can remember. And to top off, he was renting an apartment to two college girls and they had broken his dryer, with their unmentionables. Got tangled in the wheel.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Solar energy? use a clothes line assholes!

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

  30. Die Linke’s slogan sounds innocous if bland, until you pair it with that physiognomy, then it sounds really ominous

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    Will to power
    https://twitter.com/BijanTavassoli/status/1847655330550792261

  31. @songbird
    Some old gaffer told me something the other day that amazed me:

    He said that his dryer from the '70s had broken recently and he had fixed it.

    It's mind boggling: something with moving parts. He has a widower, but had had a big family - I don't think they had ever used a clothesline that I can remember. And to top off, he was renting an apartment to two college girls and they had broken his dryer, with their unmentionables. Got tangled in the wheel.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Solar energy? use a clothes line assholes!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Lol. Some of these houses in the close suburbs don't really have enough space to set one up comfortably, especially if there is any kind of garden, or you don't want people on the street to reach over and steal your clothes.

    Btw, heard a lot of Germans don't like to use dryers because of the damage it does to clothes. But am not sure it isn't just these Green-added costs. German water heaters seem to run somewhat to the insane, in regard to insulation.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    https://files.americanexperiment.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Clothes-Line-1024x586.png

  32. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Solar energy? use a clothes line assholes!

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

    Lol. Some of these houses in the close suburbs don’t really have enough space to set one up comfortably, especially if there is any kind of garden, or you don’t want people on the street to reach over and steal your clothes.

    Btw, heard a lot of Germans don’t like to use dryers because of the damage it does to clothes. But am not sure it isn’t just these Green-added costs. German water heaters seem to run somewhat to the insane, in regard to insulation.

  33. @LatW
    Maybe China should give the Norks a little slap on the wrist. They really need to take a seat, as they've gotten totally hyperactive.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    I suspect that the extent of China’s influence on North Korea is relatively limited. I mean, sure, China can improve crippling economic sanctions on North Korea, but that might simply mean that more Norks starve to death instead of having the Nork regime actually significantly alter its behavior in a meaningful way.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Mr. XYZ

    North Korea can make itself useful in certain situations. I think the astoundingly swift progress of NK towards having thermonuclear ICBMs while Trump was president indicated that NK is a Chinese cat's paw when it is being bellicose. The Chinese have 'form' for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. XYZ

  34. @songbird
    Die Linke's slogan sounds innocous if bland, until you pair it with that physiognomy, then it sounds really ominous

    https://twitter.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1847742643867976075

    Replies: @songbird

    Will to power

    [MORE]

  35. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    I suspect that the extent of China's influence on North Korea is relatively limited. I mean, sure, China can improve crippling economic sanctions on North Korea, but that might simply mean that more Norks starve to death instead of having the Nork regime actually significantly alter its behavior in a meaningful way.

    Replies: @Sean

    North Korea can make itself useful in certain situations. I think the astoundingly swift progress of NK towards having thermonuclear ICBMs while Trump was president indicated that NK is a Chinese cat’s paw when it is being bellicose. The Chinese have ‘form’ for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Sean

    " The Chinese have ‘form’ for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts."

    On the other hand it was the Germans and Belgians who taught AQ Khan uranium metallurgy, then the British/Dutch/German URENCO who gave him a job producing U-235. Within a couple of years Khan was stealing the centrifuge designs and sending them to Pakistan.

    Then there's this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan#Career_in_Europe


    Ruud Lubbers, Prime Minister of the Netherlands at the time, later said that the General Intelligence and Security Service (BVD) was aware of Khan's espionage activities but he was allowed to continue due to pressure from the CIA, with the US backing Pakistan during the Cold War. This was also highlighted when despite Archie Pervez (Khan's associate for nuclear procurement in the US) being convicted in 1988, no action was taken against Khan or his proliferation network by the US government which needed the support of Pakistan during the Soviet–Afghan War.
     
    Cheers lads!

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean

    Do you think that the Chinese helped the Norks build this in response to Trump's anti-China policies?

  36. @LatW
    Maybe China should give the Norks a little slap on the wrist. They really need to take a seat, as they've gotten totally hyperactive.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    People who think like you used to allege that Ukraine had supplied NK with ICBM technology.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Sean

    Ukraine is Schroedinger’s Country. Alive and Dead until you open the box to find out which.

  37. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    I think Miles creates paintings of females as a specialty. He doesn't seem obsessed with women or girls as far as I can tell. Most painters love beauty and women are the definition of beauty. Girls are not beautiful, but they grow into women who can be. I take this all at face value since I do not think his works are creepy. My perception is that parents regularly pay for paintings of their children since those are generally more memorable than paintings of older people. That is why a painting of a youthful kid is valuable to the family. The painting is the result of a process not just a quick snap of a phone camera and is therefore more memorable, especially if the painting is well done.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    This is a subset of my contingency set. Anyway . . .

    Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF?

    This is the thread that can be pulled out a very long ways. He should have lunch with RFK Jr. is who he should have lunch with.

    Have you ever read the Jon Rappaport Michael Medvadoy interview? There is some great stuff in there. It was on the web the last time I looked for it around a year ago but I cannot find it now. The salient parts are the medical establishment social capital, or doctors are now our gods. Close personal experience with medical goofs might be an unfortunate but requisite initiation to the True Facts.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Have not read the interview. Medvadoy = Medved?

    I agree, a meeting between Ron and RFK Jr should be interesting.

  38. On further review I found it. It’s Ellis Medavoy. My memory morphed since the last time I looked at it.

    https://pearl-hifi.com/11_Spirited_Growth/10_Health_Neg/04_Pandemics/01_AIDS/Rappoport__Ellis_Medavoy.pdf

  39. @songbird
    Does blackwashing get a bad rap? Or even not go far enough?

    Ex: What if someone made a movie about Cromwell in Ireland, and, updated it to current times, making him and his troops black and equipping them with African accoutrements? (To celebrate African culture)

    Conversely, the other standpoint could be told, by making the Irish black and setting it in Africa.

    This sort of trick could be used for many historical European conflicts to get around the political perils of reopening old wounds. Seven Years' War. Thirty Years' War. Napoleon. World Wars. Etc. Etc.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Actually, I could see an “Irish” version where the evil Cromwellian Brits are all white but the defenders of say Drogheda* are a mixed bunch including blacks and Asians.

    * the defenders of Drogheda actually included English Royalists

    • Replies: @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Playing to the historical factions would necessarily complicate matters considerably, would require more versions and maybe require more races. Like if you are Old English, then maybe the Irish are browns compared to the black Cromwellians. Etc. Etc.

    But a lot of these factions or groups don't seem to exist anymore. For royalists the easier solution would probably be an English setting.

  40. @Sean
    @Mr. XYZ

    North Korea can make itself useful in certain situations. I think the astoundingly swift progress of NK towards having thermonuclear ICBMs while Trump was president indicated that NK is a Chinese cat's paw when it is being bellicose. The Chinese have 'form' for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. XYZ

    ” The Chinese have ‘form’ for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts.”

    On the other hand it was the Germans and Belgians who taught AQ Khan uranium metallurgy, then the British/Dutch/German URENCO who gave him a job producing U-235. Within a couple of years Khan was stealing the centrifuge designs and sending them to Pakistan.

    Then there’s this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan#Career_in_Europe

    Ruud Lubbers, Prime Minister of the Netherlands at the time, later said that the General Intelligence and Security Service (BVD) was aware of Khan’s espionage activities but he was allowed to continue due to pressure from the CIA, with the US backing Pakistan during the Cold War. This was also highlighted when despite Archie Pervez (Khan’s associate for nuclear procurement in the US) being convicted in 1988, no action was taken against Khan or his proliferation network by the US government which needed the support of Pakistan during the Soviet–Afghan War.

    Cheers lads!

    • Replies: @Sean
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I think Pakistan is very much like North Korea, both have benefited from irregularly obtaining nuclear technology from the west, but the key source of their actual nuclear weapons capability is China.


    In was in the 1970s that AQ Kham stole the plans of a British/ German/ Netherlands owned enrichment plant in the Netherlands, but North Korea's first reactor appears to have been be based on the obsolete 1950s British Magnox, which was primarily a military plutonium plant. Design information of Magnox was not classified and appeared in technical journals. In 2002 / 2003, North Korea got high strength aluminium from Russia and Britain, apparently for making centrifuges.


    However, China is known to have provided Pakistan with parts used in uranium enrichment (by the way, China gave Iran two tons of Uranium), and China also gave Pakistannuclear capable missiles plus the design information on how to build them. Pakistan's nuclear missile is suspiciously similar to the ICBM North Korea developed so astoundingly quickly once Trump was elected. However both are similar to the Chinese ICBM that preexisted both, I think China has obvious motives to help Pakistan, which is used by China as a cat's paw to help North Korea. If Trump were to be elected again you would see North Korea become a loud international nuisance again, and make suspiciously sudden technological jumps resulting in very Chinese looking missiles again.

  41. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    18 Korean soldiers flee frontlines in Kursk. A new level of Russian desperation:

    https://youtu.be/YWMIQq8UgmM

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west

    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.

    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.

    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you’re right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren’t the people of 1939-45 – and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin’s Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What’s in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.

    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.

    We are reaching the “acceptance” stage at last.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory,
     
    Victory for Ukraine will come when Washington cuts the barriers of Ukraine's use of firing long range missiles into Russia. Long term destruction of Russian targets will force the Russian people to reconsider their blind support for Putler's megalomaniacal ambitions for himself. I don't think that young hipsters in Moscow and Petersburg are interested much in going off to war and having their carcasses devoured by hungry vultures somewhere in Ukraine. Ditto the same for Korean malfeasors. It's time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Wokechoke
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I like a Kurdish Barber Shop for my Barnet though…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKijMsOUvPE

    , @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Hastings has been deranged about Russia for a long time, probably the influence of his wife.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    Doesn't make any sense.

    The ISW is predicting that Putin's offensive will grind to a halt in 2025 due to a lack of armor.

    Might as well wait to see if that is the case.

    A lot can change in the next 3 months due to the elections and the weather.

    Hastings is voicing the opinion of the profits-first attitude of Bloomberg. They would like the war to end so they can go back to business as usual. Yea well....oh well.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

  42. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    Actually, I could see an "Irish" version where the evil Cromwellian Brits are all white but the defenders of say Drogheda* are a mixed bunch including blacks and Asians.

    * the defenders of Drogheda actually included English Royalists

    Replies: @songbird

    Playing to the historical factions would necessarily complicate matters considerably, would require more versions and maybe require more races. Like if you are Old English, then maybe the Irish are browns compared to the black Cromwellians. Etc. Etc.

    But a lot of these factions or groups don’t seem to exist anymore. For royalists the easier solution would probably be an English setting.

  43. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west


    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.
     
    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.
     
    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you're right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren't the people of 1939-45 - and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin's Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What's in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    We are reaching the "acceptance" stage at last.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory,

    Victory for Ukraine will come when Washington cuts the barriers of Ukraine’s use of firing long range missiles into Russia. Long term destruction of Russian targets will force the Russian people to reconsider their blind support for Putler’s megalomaniacal ambitions for himself. I don’t think that young hipsters in Moscow and Petersburg are interested much in going off to war and having their carcasses devoured by hungry vultures somewhere in Ukraine. Ditto the same for Korean malfeasors. It’s time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    "time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders"

    My understanding is that these missiles can't be targeted without US assistance, and that Russia could consider that an American attack. Pretty sure what the US would say if a US warship was targeted with a "Houthi" missile that was made in Russia and used Russian or Chinese satellites to navigate.

    Putin has been exceeding cautious over Ukraine, he didn't recognise the republics when they declared independence in 2014 - but in the end he bit the bullet in 2022. He first warned the United States about Ukraine as far back as 2007, so that was 15 years later. Not a hasty man.

    I guess it all depends whether the US agrees with you, and like you, is feeling lucky.


    (Not that I think your fantasy about young anti-war hipsters and vultures has much force. If the US does serious missile damage to Russia the next steps are unlikely to be a draft of manpower. The killer US weapon was sanctions, and they've only served to impoverish Europe.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    PS - major US-Russia confrontation would surely be the moment for China to move in Taiwan and South China Sea.

    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Great_Powers

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

  44. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Solar energy? use a clothes line assholes!

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

  45. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory,
     
    Victory for Ukraine will come when Washington cuts the barriers of Ukraine's use of firing long range missiles into Russia. Long term destruction of Russian targets will force the Russian people to reconsider their blind support for Putler's megalomaniacal ambitions for himself. I don't think that young hipsters in Moscow and Petersburg are interested much in going off to war and having their carcasses devoured by hungry vultures somewhere in Ukraine. Ditto the same for Korean malfeasors. It's time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

    “time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders”

    My understanding is that these missiles can’t be targeted without US assistance, and that Russia could consider that an American attack. Pretty sure what the US would say if a US warship was targeted with a “Houthi” missile that was made in Russia and used Russian or Chinese satellites to navigate.

    Putin has been exceeding cautious over Ukraine, he didn’t recognise the republics when they declared independence in 2014 – but in the end he bit the bullet in 2022. He first warned the United States about Ukraine as far back as 2007, so that was 15 years later. Not a hasty man.

    I guess it all depends whether the US agrees with you, and like you, is feeling lucky.

    (Not that I think your fantasy about young anti-war hipsters and vultures has much force. If the US does serious missile damage to Russia the next steps are unlikely to be a draft of manpower. The killer US weapon was sanctions, and they’ve only served to impoverish Europe.)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The US has more than once been cautions about providing weaponry to Ukraine and also extending the boundaries regarding Ukraine's ability to attack Russian military targets within Russia....

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Sher Singh

  46. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory,
     
    Victory for Ukraine will come when Washington cuts the barriers of Ukraine's use of firing long range missiles into Russia. Long term destruction of Russian targets will force the Russian people to reconsider their blind support for Putler's megalomaniacal ambitions for himself. I don't think that young hipsters in Moscow and Petersburg are interested much in going off to war and having their carcasses devoured by hungry vultures somewhere in Ukraine. Ditto the same for Korean malfeasors. It's time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon

    PS – major US-Russia confrontation would surely be the moment for China to move in Taiwan and South China Sea.

    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Great_Powers

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.
     
    The mistake that Russia tumbled into, for Washington's and Beijing's benefit.
    , @Mikhail
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Nice cover for a parasitic proxy war enthusiastically supported by the uber chickenhawk likes of Lindsey Graham.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  47. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    "time to untie the hands of Ukrainian defenders"

    My understanding is that these missiles can't be targeted without US assistance, and that Russia could consider that an American attack. Pretty sure what the US would say if a US warship was targeted with a "Houthi" missile that was made in Russia and used Russian or Chinese satellites to navigate.

    Putin has been exceeding cautious over Ukraine, he didn't recognise the republics when they declared independence in 2014 - but in the end he bit the bullet in 2022. He first warned the United States about Ukraine as far back as 2007, so that was 15 years later. Not a hasty man.

    I guess it all depends whether the US agrees with you, and like you, is feeling lucky.


    (Not that I think your fantasy about young anti-war hipsters and vultures has much force. If the US does serious missile damage to Russia the next steps are unlikely to be a draft of manpower. The killer US weapon was sanctions, and they've only served to impoverish Europe.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The US has more than once been cautions about providing weaponry to Ukraine and also extending the boundaries regarding Ukraine’s ability to attack Russian military targets within Russia….

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    At some point the Germans might start looking at 1939-41 as the true golden era. Rather than the so called miracle of the 1960s. Which incidentally did depend on cheap Russian energy too.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack



    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640459736919048202/1297712584245510174/1729469183692.jpg?ex=6716ec86&is=67159b06&hm=8f2257f1a7775f38e40432d57220dda51a12076b5a3a996c68c86ea46d472fa7&

  48. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    This is a subset of my contingency set. Anyway . . .


    Then he has a World Series-losing choke (mRNA shots) and we say WTF?
     
    This is the thread that can be pulled out a very long ways. He should have lunch with RFK Jr. is who he should have lunch with.

    Have you ever read the Jon Rappaport Michael Medvadoy interview? There is some great stuff in there. It was on the web the last time I looked for it around a year ago but I cannot find it now. The salient parts are the medical establishment social capital, or doctors are now our gods. Close personal experience with medical goofs might be an unfortunate but requisite initiation to the True Facts.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Have not read the interview. Medvadoy = Medved?

    I agree, a meeting between Ron and RFK Jr should be interesting.

  49. An interesting article: (1)

    In the 2024 election, the party seems to be rallying behind Kamala Harris, but don’t be fooled — there are plenty of high-profile Democrats who would quietly prefer to see her fall short. Here’s a look at four key figures in the Democratic Party who, for various reasons, are privately rooting for Kamala to lose next month.

    -1- Gavin Newsom
    -2- Gretchen Whitmer
    -3- Hillary Clinton
    -4- Joe Biden

    The media are now openly admitting that Trump is now ahead in all 7 swing states (2). Remember, these polls have historically been left shifted 3-5%.

    Other Democrats are distancing themselves from the plummeting Harris/Walz effort. (3)

    Harris recently campaigned in Erie, Pennsylvania — a crucial regional hub in this election cycle’s most important battleground state. Conspicuously absent from that snoozefest was incumbent Sen. Bob Casey Jr. (D-Pa.). Harris tried to pass off the snub as a nothingburger, suggesting that Casey was doing the more important work of knocking on doors and getting out the vote. This doesn’t pass the laugh test. Facing a spirited challenge from Republican hopeful Dave McCormick, Casey has clearly concluded that Harris’ immense Bay Area lefty baggage — her history of endorsing the Green New Deal, a national fracking ban and crippling electric vehicle mandates — is an electoral albatross around his neck.

    It’s tough to blame Casey. Other vulnerable Senate Democratic incumbents, such as Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), reached the same conclusion a while ago. Such a conclusion makes a great deal of sense: A recent Marist national general election poll, for instance, shows Trump up a whopping 10 points on Harris with registered independents. If that margin ends up being anywhere near accurate, it is extraordinarily difficult to see a scenario in which Trump loses.

    Focusing conversation on migration is working with independents. And, lots of fun too… 😆

      

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/19/these-four-democrats-secretly-dont-want-kamala-to-win-n4933483

    (2) https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

    (3) https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/10/18/the_collapse_of_kamala_harris_151800.html

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    The Daily Mail has Usher doing Harris campaign appearances. They are doing everything now to throw it to Donald the Fat.

    They haven't pulled out Justin Bieber yet but I'm guessing that is next.

  50. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west


    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.
     
    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.
     
    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you're right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren't the people of 1939-45 - and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin's Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What's in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    We are reaching the "acceptance" stage at last.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    I like a Kurdish Barber Shop for my Barnet though…

  51. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The US has more than once been cautions about providing weaponry to Ukraine and also extending the boundaries regarding Ukraine's ability to attack Russian military targets within Russia....

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Sher Singh

    At some point the Germans might start looking at 1939-41 as the true golden era. Rather than the so called miracle of the 1960s. Which incidentally did depend on cheap Russian energy too.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke

    There's a commentary of present day Nazi looking/sounding German officers salivating at the start of the Kiev regime's attack in Kursk, noting the German vehicles utilized.

    Same end result. Some never learn.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  52. When does the penny drop in Germany that the period between the Molotov Ribbentrop pact and June-July 1941 was their best time in the 300 years?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    Not true.

    Bismarck and Nietzsche and Wagner and discrete Jew money was the apex. Not just of Germany proper but all western civ. They put Athens and the Republican Rome to shame. Only British people could possibly be ignorant of this obvious fact.

    WE have computers. : )

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

  53. @Wokechoke
    When does the penny drop in Germany that the period between the Molotov Ribbentrop pact and June-July 1941 was their best time in the 300 years?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Not true.

    Bismarck and Nietzsche and Wagner and discrete Jew money was the apex. Not just of Germany proper but all western civ. They put Athens and the Republican Rome to shame. Only British people could possibly be ignorant of this obvious fact.

    WE have computers. : )

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @emil nikola richard

    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Wokechoke
    @emil nikola richard

    Renoir, Evelyn Waugh, Joseph Conrad, Henri Matisse, Henry Ford, Rupert Brooke. Nod to Gustavo Klimt and Adolph Loos. Early 20th century.

    Our own era and the late 20th maybe the MRI. Looking inside the mind for the first time properly.

  54. @A123
    An interesting article: (1)

    In the 2024 election, the party seems to be rallying behind Kamala Harris, but don’t be fooled — there are plenty of high-profile Democrats who would quietly prefer to see her fall short. Here’s a look at four key figures in the Democratic Party who, for various reasons, are privately rooting for Kamala to lose next month.
     
    -1- Gavin Newsom
    -2- Gretchen Whitmer
    -3- Hillary Clinton
    -4- Joe Biden

    The media are now openly admitting that Trump is now ahead in all 7 swing states (2). Remember, these polls have historically been left shifted 3-5%.

    Other Democrats are distancing themselves from the plummeting Harris/Walz effort. (3)


    Harris recently campaigned in Erie, Pennsylvania -- a crucial regional hub in this election cycle's most important battleground state. Conspicuously absent from that snoozefest was incumbent Sen. Bob Casey Jr. (D-Pa.). Harris tried to pass off the snub as a nothingburger, suggesting that Casey was doing the more important work of knocking on doors and getting out the vote. This doesn't pass the laugh test. Facing a spirited challenge from Republican hopeful Dave McCormick, Casey has clearly concluded that Harris' immense Bay Area lefty baggage -- her history of endorsing the Green New Deal, a national fracking ban and crippling electric vehicle mandates -- is an electoral albatross around his neck.

    It's tough to blame Casey. Other vulnerable Senate Democratic incumbents, such as Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), reached the same conclusion a while ago. Such a conclusion makes a great deal of sense: A recent Marist national general election poll, for instance, shows Trump up a whopping 10 points on Harris with registered independents. If that margin ends up being anywhere near accurate, it is extraordinarily difficult to see a scenario in which Trump loses.
     

    Focusing conversation on migration is working with independents. And, lots of fun too... 😆

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizDiINSciYo6F-hLBhOAEAJNrS-F0e0thhAL7KjGbZ9j7wBjHBagBlfsWOrNyt5rA7amcoG5_b0zm2LuoM1vHAqb1q_bqUTqK1wxgr-1HK72o_1jKgg1t6NOMwpF7q15MAeImEccxIx5C1gn3vI-WQLdvhJ-vQnqjC9KTHeQI6yf7nivWmqhe9BkFdb6Cw/s783/18.jpg
     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/19/these-four-democrats-secretly-dont-want-kamala-to-win-n4933483

    (2) https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

    (3) https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/10/18/the_collapse_of_kamala_harris_151800.html

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    The Daily Mail has Usher doing Harris campaign appearances. They are doing everything now to throw it to Donald the Fat.

    They haven’t pulled out Justin Bieber yet but I’m guessing that is next.

  55. @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow

    Some of us think the Korean chicks are pretty OK. Once in a while the local mega church sends them out in packs to recruit. If I was twenty years younger I would be tempted.

    Absolutely. Well P~.999 to be more realistic.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Some of us think the Korean chicks are pretty OK.

    That’s not inconsistent, many of the best have always come from the wooden hovels…but I have been to Seoul, it reeks of garlic, has the worst traffic jams, very unimpressive architecture and they hate Japs. I hear the Norks have it even worse. Maybe they should fight it out in Kursk…it is getting interesting…

  56. @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    Not true.

    Bismarck and Nietzsche and Wagner and discrete Jew money was the apex. Not just of Germany proper but all western civ. They put Athens and the Republican Rome to shame. Only British people could possibly be ignorant of this obvious fact.

    WE have computers. : )

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke


    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.
     
    Habsburgite influence?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  57. @Wokechoke
    Korean troops in Kursk Oblast…discuss.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail, @songbird

    How well substantiated?

  58. Regarding the NATO proxy war against Russia, Scott Ritter debunks the anonymous crank trolls in slam dunk fashion:

    An entertaining debate between Gil Doctorow and John Helmer:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Regarding the NATO proxy war against Russia, Scott Ritter debunks the anonymous crank trolls in slam dunk fashion:

    What exactly did he debunk?

    Scott Ritter in 2023 explains that NATO is stupid for thinking the war will go on for another year and how Ukraine will run out men by November 2024

    https://youtu.be/QmH9MoZYdjk?t=967

    Of course the quiet stooge that nods his head like a lapdog will never ask Scott about his past predictions.

  59. @Wokechoke
    @emil nikola richard

    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.

    Habsburgite influence?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mikhail

    Austria-Hungary did still function as a counter balance to German ambitions. The Semi Slavic Semi German Empire also happened to be the ignition for Ww1 too.

  60. @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke


    Bismarck was of course in alliance of a sort with imperial Russia. The same policy of cosy friendship with Russia allowed his machinations to function as he eliminated competing German states, then Denmark then Austria and finally France. He had the good sense to be on excellent terms with the Czar. It’s the one thing Hitler himself ignored about Bismarcks real politik.
     
    Habsburgite influence?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Austria-Hungary did still function as a counter balance to German ambitions. The Semi Slavic Semi German Empire also happened to be the ignition for Ww1 too.

  61. @Sean
    @LatW

    People who think like you used to allege that Ukraine had supplied NK with ICBM technology.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Ukraine is Schroedinger’s Country. Alive and Dead until you open the box to find out which.

  62. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    At some point the Germans might start looking at 1939-41 as the true golden era. Rather than the so called miracle of the 1960s. Which incidentally did depend on cheap Russian energy too.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    There’s a commentary of present day Nazi looking/sounding German officers salivating at the start of the Kiev regime’s attack in Kursk, noting the German vehicles utilized.

    Same end result. Some never learn.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mikhail

    Russia is a bottomless pit. It’s possible to fight them on the littoral coasts and destroy access to warm water ports but in the long term a city like Moscow will dominate the area known as Russia.

  63. @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke

    There's a commentary of present day Nazi looking/sounding German officers salivating at the start of the Kiev regime's attack in Kursk, noting the German vehicles utilized.

    Same end result. Some never learn.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Russia is a bottomless pit. It’s possible to fight them on the littoral coasts and destroy access to warm water ports but in the long term a city like Moscow will dominate the area known as Russia.

  64. • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mikhail

    "Moldovans prefer freedom"


    Not quite - in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, "No" was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don't know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote - transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @Mikhail, @AP

  65. The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:
     
    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together, Why somebody as important as you Mickey will not be a keynote speaker at this circus is beyond me (NOT!) ?

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow, @Wokechoke

  66. Home many times did Erdogan end up insulting Scholz?

    [MORE]

  67. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The US has more than once been cautions about providing weaponry to Ukraine and also extending the boundaries regarding Ukraine's ability to attack Russian military targets within Russia....

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Sher Singh

    [MORE]

  68. @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    Not true.

    Bismarck and Nietzsche and Wagner and discrete Jew money was the apex. Not just of Germany proper but all western civ. They put Athens and the Republican Rome to shame. Only British people could possibly be ignorant of this obvious fact.

    WE have computers. : )

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

    Renoir, Evelyn Waugh, Joseph Conrad, Henri Matisse, Henry Ford, Rupert Brooke. Nod to Gustavo Klimt and Adolph Loos. Early 20th century.

    Our own era and the late 20th maybe the MRI. Looking inside the mind for the first time properly.

  69. AP, here is JFK’s pro-immigration reform book:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31210012341721&seq=5

    What exactly is so objectionable about its contents? I don’t see anything, frankly.

  70. @Sean
    @Mr. XYZ

    North Korea can make itself useful in certain situations. I think the astoundingly swift progress of NK towards having thermonuclear ICBMs while Trump was president indicated that NK is a Chinese cat's paw when it is being bellicose. The Chinese have 'form' for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. XYZ

    Do you think that the Chinese helped the Norks build this in response to Trump’s anti-China policies?

  71. @Beckow
    @Wokechoke

    US should ship South Koreans there to make it interesting. How many countries invaded Iraq, Serbia, Syria? Was it 20? Or maybe 50? When the boss says march, they do...

    Oops, I forgot: S Koreans have the lowest birthrate and high suicide rate, so no imperial adventures for them. Back to assembling Kias, slaving for the bosses, and living in their wooden hovels...if lucky, maybe a visa to run a liquor store in US inner city....poor guys, north and south.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack, @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    Living in South Korea can’t be so bad nowadays.

    Look what happens with their life expectancy compared even to postcommunist states which joined the EU and received vast EU wealth transfers.

    They moved from a third world country to above Norway and Sweden in this indicator, this looks like unusually fast development.

  72. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west


    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.
     
    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.
     
    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you're right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren't the people of 1939-45 - and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin's Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What's in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    We are reaching the "acceptance" stage at last.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    Hastings has been deranged about Russia for a long time, probably the influence of his wife.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @LondonBob

    I see he's on record as saying that the world should be run by "women and Jews".

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  73. @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Hastings has been deranged about Russia for a long time, probably the influence of his wife.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I see he’s on record as saying that the world should be run by “women and Jews”.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s not?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  74. CNN is reporting Trump and his allies spent $21 million on anti-tranny ads, and AP is still endorsing Kakula Harris!

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/18/politics/trump-transgender-attack-ads-harris/index.html

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Kalima Hari.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The ad campaign must be a flop?...

    Replies: @songbird

  75. @YetAnotherAnon
    @LondonBob

    I see he's on record as saying that the world should be run by "women and Jews".

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    It’s not?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    Our bit might be, pretty sure China isn't, although I would wager that Jewish success/power is of great interest to Chinese students of politics and strategy. How could it not be if they are realists?

  76. @Mikhail
    The free world's hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC437lLnxx4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rynxqdNMry4

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:

    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together, Why somebody as important as you Mickey will not be a keynote speaker at this circus is beyond me (NOT!) ?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits
     
    I see, Yankee Empire was not invited. Safer without them, no bugs, no bacteria or virus - Chinese advise.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together
     
    Starmer, Macron, Trudeau, Sholz, interchangeable Jap, and old cranky guy from US...it sounds about right...:)

    The average approval rate of the G7 leaders is in high 20's, quite some democrats...How about picking better leaders at home?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Hanging your hat on the dictator rhetorical line I see. The paradox of the dictator is that he generally enjoys something like popularity for a while and if bad at the job gets it in the neck eventually and is thus accountable.

    In western democracy no one in charge ever pays a price.

  77. @songbird
    CNN is reporting Trump and his allies spent $21 million on anti-tranny ads, and AP is still endorsing Kakula Harris!

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/18/politics/trump-transgender-attack-ads-harris/index.html

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack

    Kalima Hari.

    • LOL: songbird
  78. @songbird
    CNN is reporting Trump and his allies spent $21 million on anti-tranny ads, and AP is still endorsing Kakula Harris!

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/18/politics/trump-transgender-attack-ads-harris/index.html

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. Hack

    The ad campaign must be a flop?…

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Is that some kind of midwest slang for LGBT?

    Btw, does anyone know what supposed epithet (as Kakula claims) Trump used against her in a rally?

    I don't know, but would like to know. Stories from August report b----, as in they said it began with a "b." But I am hoping it was some new word.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  79. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The ad campaign must be a flop?...

    Replies: @songbird

    Is that some kind of midwest slang for LGBT?

    Btw, does anyone know what supposed epithet (as Kakula claims) Trump used against her in a rally?

    I don’t know, but would like to know. Stories from August report b—-, as in they said it began with a “b.” But I am hoping it was some new word.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No midwest slang that I'm aware of and I don't know (and don't really care) of any epithet that Frump hurled Camel Toe's way in August, Maybe kremlinstoogeA123 can help you out, as he seems to arrange his life around every utterance that Orangie makes?...

    Replies: @songbird

  80. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:
     
    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together, Why somebody as important as you Mickey will not be a keynote speaker at this circus is beyond me (NOT!) ?

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits

    I see, Yankee Empire was not invited. Safer without them, no bugs, no bacteria or virus – Chinese advise.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Derer

    Somewhat tongue and cheek, the ideal US prez candidate would've America:

    - ditch NATO and the G-7
    - apply for BRICS
    - cut government funding to NPR/PBS until they exhibit a truly diverse media
    - drastically cut foreign military aide, with a transfer of the money going to improved healthcare and civilian infrastructure.
    - encourage the MIC to make a profit on civilian projects.

  81. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Is that some kind of midwest slang for LGBT?

    Btw, does anyone know what supposed epithet (as Kakula claims) Trump used against her in a rally?

    I don't know, but would like to know. Stories from August report b----, as in they said it began with a "b." But I am hoping it was some new word.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No midwest slang that I’m aware of and I don’t know (and don’t really care) of any epithet that Frump hurled Camel Toe’s way in August, Maybe kremlinstoogeA123 can help you out, as he seems to arrange his life around every utterance that Orangie makes?…

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I saw someone on X call her "Kakala.". Which I thought was very appropriate and descriptive.

    I am still debating whether that sounds better, but it was my inspiration, being near Halloween, to transform that into "Kakula" (like Dracula.)

    I like Emil's term (which has its own very appropriate descriptive value), but think we should each have our own.

    Briefly, I considered calling her Kakula Harris-lines, but I think that would have been a bridge too far. Kind of like when you tried to call Putin, Putleria or something. (hitler + malaria?)

    But while I like the term "Harris-lines.". Not many people know it outside of specialized fields, like archeology (which I have a small interest in) or radiology.

    I know these sort of name changes might seem like low-brow stuff to some, but imo we might as well get some fun out the decline of America.

    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

  82. from the previous thread https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-260/#comment-6819868

    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.

    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    “To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates
    in U.S. counties j)”

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

    If you imagine (this is a science fiction example) you multiplied Espanola, NM to 1200 different alternative universes to create the same population as Japan and then recorded the number of murders in a year, then the mean number of murders you record after dividing by the 120,000,000 residents of Espanola NM from the 1200 different universes, would be almost the same as the true murder rate.

    I’m not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.

    If we say that a poll favors Trump 52-48 with a margin of error 3.5, or if we say that yearly rainfall in Las Vegas is 2 inches +/- 1 inch, it is very clear what we are saying: for a given confidence level (eg 95%), if we repeat the exercise of sampling the electorate or the yearly rainfall observation enough times, the result will fall within those intervals.

    For the confidence interval of the murder rate in Espanola, NM I am not sure what your confidence intervals are saying, unless we treat this rate as a temporal series.

    This is what I was trying to say in a previous comment about the nonexistence of a “natural murder rate of Chicago”. Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates. But a Poisson distribution implies that there is an underlying constant rate. This may be a good approximation for chronic disease incidence rates but I don’t think we can assume the same for stochastic data like murder events that are highly influenced by environmental factors: policing, severity of penalties, gang activity, poverty, demographic changes, etc. If we go back in time just some years the people committing murders today were not even alive so there is no a priori reason to expect a constant rate. The Poisson distribution also assumes lack of auto-correlation in the data but this is another dubious assumption for homicide rates.

    I’m pretty sure that data analysts have sophisticated tools to properly analyze all kinds of data. For example, in climatological studies I’ve seen papers published where they used the method of in-filling from nearby weather stations when they had data discontinuity, which perhaps can also be applied to this case, but I don’t think we can do much better than building temporal series to compare “true” rates of homicides between heterogeneous population sizes.

    For example, imagine there is a political crisis in Mexico, which causes secession to smaller states. This is peaceful secession movement and has no effect on the country, just it divides to smaller states which have populations similar Jamaica or Lithuania.

    This only administrative change, would cause the top of the Wikipedia list for the highest homicide rates in the world to become mostly successor states of Mexico. Colima would be position 2, Baja California would be in position 3, Chihuahua would be position 4, Guanajuato would be position 5, Zacatecas will be position 6, Michoacan will be position 7.

    …/…

    But nothing would have changed in terms of murder in the real world. Just the range in the list is changing because of the introduction of more smaller administrative divisions.

    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mikel

    There is a philosophical fraud in discussing probability measures which are meaningful for N trials for events that will happen only one time if ever. When a group of scientists like epidemiologists or oncologists or economists do this it's still fraud.

    When you roll dice it's an a simple matter to pick them up and roll them again. And again.

    A fatal disease doesn't work like this, and every patient is unique in some way. I would rather have the information than not have it, but it doesn't mean that much. It doesn't mean anything like these fraudsters claim. It ain't anything like a Law of Nature.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Dmitry
    @Mikel



    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.

     

    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    “To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates in U.S. counties j)”

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

     

    I think you misunderstand the text a bit, but without just trying to sound more polite than earlier, in this case it's really my fault, because it's a book of ideas to use in the classroom. I also combined quotes from two different lessons, one from the beginning of the course, one from the end of the course, so it makes the discussion confusing by mixing two lessons.

    He's not saying the multi-year reported rate is the same as the true rate.

    It seems like he's using a ten year average like this because it's an easier teaching example for the students to calculate an expected rate. I'll try to explain later.

    In this lesson, the true rate is created from a simulation and some students have to choose it randomly from an envelope.


    I’m not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.
     
    It's not like a debate where we can have different ways of looking at it. In this context, the statisticians' meaning of the true rate, or underlying rate, is the observed rate minus randomness.

    Annual changes in the reported rate in Espanola NM is useful because it helps to show the instability in the observed rate between years at this population size.

    This is helpful in our discussion because you were wondering why we should use a confidence interval even when our sample is the complete dataset.

    The confidence interval is trying to estimate the likely values between which we can say the true rate is existing.

    When we say this true rate is minus randomness, what do we mean? This randomness is statisticians' randomness, which is not the concept of randomness used in physics, but relates to our intuitive concept of randomness. For example, if you flip a coin one time, in classical mechanics the result is not random, but from the view of human intention and our sensory ability, this is random.

    So, how does this randomness relate to murder rate.

    For example, when an assassin tried to murder Trump in July. Trump said he moved his head to look at a signpost just before the bullet missed or only affected the ear. We can think about this like a coin flip. It's random if Trump will be murdered or not in this example.

    Imagine, Trump is in Espanola NM. The murder rate of the city would be 9,5 this year if the bullet goes to the intended target, but the murder rate of the city will be 0 this year if Trump looks at the sign so the bullet only affects the ear.

    We can intuitively understand that an observed murder rate in Espanola NM has a very high exposure to randomness. If we try to infer the true murder rate from the observed murder rate, we need very wide confidence intervals, as the confidence intervals are estimating the murder rate minus randomness, not the observed rate.

    But what about the murder rate of the USA? How does the randomness in the Trump assassination influence the murder rate. If he was killed, it would change the murder rate by only around 0,001. The sample of the USA is large enough to remove most of the influence of this type of randomness from the observed murder rate.

    -

    How can we think about this in relation to Espanola NM? If you imagine running around 3200 simulations of the city for a year then dividing by the population across all these simulations, or 3200 alternative universes, we have the same exposure of randomness on the city murder rate as for the USA murder rate. This is just a description of the statistical concept like a metaphor, it's not requiring you to believe in alternative universes.

    But it might be easier to explain this to the coin flip metaphor?

    If you imagine you flip the coin one time and we receive heads. The observed rate of the heads could be described like 1:1 between heads:flip.

    So, even though we sample the complete dataset, our observed rate of heads will be very different from the true rate of heads, unless it's a scammer's coin.

    If you then flip the coin one time each year, for ten years, then the coin's observed rate of heads will on average converge closer to 1:2 as heads:flip than in single year flip. So, adding the samples of additional years will improve our convergence, but in this example the data of 10 years would still not generate enough power for a very accurate estimate of coin's true rate of heads per flip

    Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates
     

    He's using part of the lesson to teach the students to try adding an expected rate, as one of the skills he wants them to try, so they can use the 10-year mean So, I guess in our example, using the data for Espanola NM, if we continue drawing the line with Poisson we expect there will be a 59% probability of at least a murder in the next year after our samples ended.

    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered

     

    We have been on a discussion about statistical power, but although this is part of the issue, it isn't the main reason for the distribution in the top of the list.

    Our main reason is because if you use smaller divisions, you increase the range between these divisions. It's because they are divided by the population.

    The kidney cancer example includes both of these issues and it's being used in the book mainly to teach about statistical power, but if we wanted to isolate and teach the main reason for our discussion, we probably should use an example where there isn't distinction between the true and observed rate, so we can avoid the discussion about statistical power.

    -

    We could an example of annual income, as it's a socially constructed data in a way there is no distinction between a true and observed rate, allowing us to avoid discussing statistical power.

    In the USA, the range of income between counties is a lot higher than between states, because the smaller division of the country divides by a smaller population.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for states is $24,672.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for countries is $67,824.

    So, switching from list of states to list of counties, we are increasing the range of income in the construction of the list by 2,75 times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income)


    -

    How can we compare this to our discussion? I you want to imagine a heterogeneous list which mixes a sample of states and also some counties also.

    Like, if we have a list of states and also add randomly to our list of states, 100 counties from the sample of over 3000 counties.

    Of course, just by creating a heterogeneous list including from both types of division, we expect the items in the top and bottom of the list will be counties, because they are divided by smaller populations.


    Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?
     

    Olympic champions could be a comparison, although they are even more rare events than murders so in reality we would have issues with this.

    Imagine a sports scientist working for Kim Jong Un wants to learn about the secret of producing the highest rates of Olympic champions.

    He wants to talk to the local government officials, look at the schools, explore the diet or study the genetics of the local populations.

    It's important he finds the place which really has these secrets, as he will be executed if he learns lessons from the incorrect destination.

    He finds Jamaica has a high rate of Olympic champions. But the state of Baja California has maybe over 50% higher rate of Olympic champions than Jamaica, even with having a 35% larger population than Jamaica? Of course, this is a science fiction example for sport, but it would be true if we compare murder rates in 2020.

    Where should a sports scientist visit? Jamaica or Baja California?

    He also looks at the Wikipedia list. But he would know, outside from the discussion about statistical power, the range of the list is expanded because of including different size divisions, which just expands the range of the values of the means when the sample size within the division is smaller.

    -

    It's an arbitrary result of the way the list has been formed and that's typical thing you would adjust for, for example if you were investigating something more normal than Olympic champions, like kidney cancer rates, where the national component is less important. Olympic champions is actually even an example which reifies a national division more than murder rates, as the item used by the Olympics is a national team.

    Replies: @Mikel

  83. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:
     
    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together, Why somebody as important as you Mickey will not be a keynote speaker at this circus is beyond me (NOT!) ?

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    …A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together

    Starmer, Macron, Trudeau, Sholz, interchangeable Jap, and old cranky guy from US…it sounds about right…:)

    The average approval rate of the G7 leaders is in high 20’s, quite some democrats…How about picking better leaders at home?

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow

    From the previous Open Thread:


    In Poland, the Communists were insincere in their Communism….Poles looked down on Czechoslovaks because they seemed to have been more sincere in their communism.

    3 million “insincere” Polish commies? With their families that would be quarter to third of the population. For 40 years.
     
    Of course. You think Commies ever won an election in Poland, or could have won one?

    Communism was imposed upon Poland by Soviet tanks and maintained by the threat of Soviet tanks (and those of the DDR, and Czechoslovakia). Open resistance would not have been successful. Party membership was necessary to advance in certain careers and was otherwise helpful. So millions were members, despite disliking the overall conditions. Membership was a means to an end and nothing more for the vast majority, including leaders themselves.

    It sounds like a real mental sh.thole of a country. Three million Poles lying daily for 40 years!!!
     
    You do it now, and yet you somehow survive.

    They at least did not lie to themselves. Nor did most of them blame one another. Everyone understood this was the unpleasant condition they had to live under. There was a balancing act - how much could they get away with, without Moscow sending tanks in. They tried to get away with as much as they could. Jaruzelski sent tanks in not because he was a Commie believer but because he feared that the protests would upset the balance and a Soviet invasion would follow; better his milder approach than a more-brutal Soviet one. But the Soviets couldn't be too strict either - they didn't eliminate the Church, or insist on sincerity towards Communism by Poles or otherwise push them into open rebellion because an invasion of a country of that size and determination could be messy. So there was an uneasy balance.

    Poles dumped the system as soon as they had the chance, when it was clear that they wouldn't be invaded for doing so.

    Poles were amazed at and looked down on Czechoslovaks, who really were much more sincere in their Communism. They would visit and laugh. Fortunately the people of Czechoslovakia have gotten much better - most of them.

    But the loathing is mutual, we look down on the Poles as being poor, messy, and unreliable in business
     
    Poland is richer than Slovakia (though not Czechia), business is better, I don't know about messiness but you have far more Roma so there are far messier places in your country.

    If you think Poles are poor and messy, what must you think of Hungarians lol.

    Replies: @Beckow

  84. @Mikel
    @Dmitry

    from the previous thread https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-260/#comment-6819868

    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.
     
    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    "To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates
    in U.S. counties j)"

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

    If you imagine (this is a science fiction example) you multiplied Espanola, NM to 1200 different alternative universes to create the same population as Japan and then recorded the number of murders in a year, then the mean number of murders you record after dividing by the 120,000,000 residents of Espanola NM from the 1200 different universes, would be almost the same as the true murder rate.
     
    I'm not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.

    If we say that a poll favors Trump 52-48 with a margin of error 3.5, or if we say that yearly rainfall in Las Vegas is 2 inches +/- 1 inch, it is very clear what we are saying: for a given confidence level (eg 95%), if we repeat the exercise of sampling the electorate or the yearly rainfall observation enough times, the result will fall within those intervals.

    For the confidence interval of the murder rate in Espanola, NM I am not sure what your confidence intervals are saying, unless we treat this rate as a temporal series.

    This is what I was trying to say in a previous comment about the nonexistence of a "natural murder rate of Chicago". Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates. But a Poisson distribution implies that there is an underlying constant rate. This may be a good approximation for chronic disease incidence rates but I don't think we can assume the same for stochastic data like murder events that are highly influenced by environmental factors: policing, severity of penalties, gang activity, poverty, demographic changes, etc. If we go back in time just some years the people committing murders today were not even alive so there is no a priori reason to expect a constant rate. The Poisson distribution also assumes lack of auto-correlation in the data but this is another dubious assumption for homicide rates.

    I'm pretty sure that data analysts have sophisticated tools to properly analyze all kinds of data. For example, in climatological studies I've seen papers published where they used the method of in-filling from nearby weather stations when they had data discontinuity, which perhaps can also be applied to this case, but I don't think we can do much better than building temporal series to compare "true" rates of homicides between heterogeneous population sizes.

    For example, imagine there is a political crisis in Mexico, which causes secession to smaller states. This is peaceful secession movement and has no effect on the country, just it divides to smaller states which have populations similar Jamaica or Lithuania.

    This only administrative change, would cause the top of the Wikipedia list for the highest homicide rates in the world to become mostly successor states of Mexico. Colima would be position 2, Baja California would be in position 3, Chihuahua would be position 4, Guanajuato would be position 5, Zacatecas will be position 6, Michoacan will be position 7.

    .../...

    But nothing would have changed in terms of murder in the real world. Just the range in the list is changing because of the introduction of more smaller administrative divisions.
     
    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    There is a philosophical fraud in discussing probability measures which are meaningful for N trials for events that will happen only one time if ever. When a group of scientists like epidemiologists or oncologists or economists do this it’s still fraud.

    When you roll dice it’s an a simple matter to pick them up and roll them again. And again.

    A fatal disease doesn’t work like this, and every patient is unique in some way. I would rather have the information than not have it, but it doesn’t mean that much. It doesn’t mean anything like these fraudsters claim. It ain’t anything like a Law of Nature.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @emil nikola richard

    I wouldn't agree with everything you wrote here. There's always much more than meets the eye in any data set and raw data can sometimes be misleading. That's what statisticians and data analysts are for, a profession in high demand these days with all the amount of data generated in the digital age. However, it is true that things almost always are what they look like. That's why nature gave us our pattern recognition abilities: evolution made them fit for purpose in most cases. Perhaps the morale of the story here would be to trust your senses: if you value safety over beautiful beaches, don't move to a Caribbean nation.

  85. Chaos magic in Russia. 30:44

    He seems to think Adam Curtis’s tv shows about Vladislav Surkov are reliable documentaries among other howlers but WHAT CAN WE EXPECT?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it. The "chaos" approach has been playing in the West for a very long time, so looking to Russia for examples seems like misdirection.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_29yvYpf4w

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  86. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No midwest slang that I'm aware of and I don't know (and don't really care) of any epithet that Frump hurled Camel Toe's way in August, Maybe kremlinstoogeA123 can help you out, as he seems to arrange his life around every utterance that Orangie makes?...

    Replies: @songbird

    I saw someone on X call her “Kakala.”. Which I thought was very appropriate and descriptive.

    I am still debating whether that sounds better, but it was my inspiration, being near Halloween, to transform that into “Kakula” (like Dracula.)

    I like Emil’s term (which has its own very appropriate descriptive value), but think we should each have our own.

    Briefly, I considered calling her Kakula Harris-lines, but I think that would have been a bridge too far. Kind of like when you tried to call Putin, Putleria or something. (hitler + malaria?)

    But while I like the term “Harris-lines.”. Not many people know it outside of specialized fields, like archeology (which I have a small interest in) or radiology.

    I know these sort of name changes might seem like low-brow stuff to some, but imo we might as well get some fun out the decline of America.

    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    They're all deserving of some merit, but I'm disappointed that you didn't even give me a favorable mention. "Camel Toe", ya know, is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_toe :-(

    I first heard the term from a friend of mine that's a real hard core Trumpist.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mikel
    @songbird


    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.
     
    It's looking increasingly unlikely that she'll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she'd win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there's no obvious reason why they wouldn't correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They're clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he's ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn't done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @AP, @songbird

  87. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits
     
    I see, Yankee Empire was not invited. Safer without them, no bugs, no bacteria or virus - Chinese advise.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Somewhat tongue and cheek, the ideal US prez candidate would’ve America:

    – ditch NATO and the G-7
    – apply for BRICS
    – cut government funding to NPR/PBS until they exhibit a truly diverse media
    – drastically cut foreign military aide, with a transfer of the money going to improved healthcare and civilian infrastructure.
    – encourage the MIC to make a profit on civilian projects.

    • Agree: Derer
  88. @Wokechoke
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s not?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Our bit might be, pretty sure China isn’t, although I would wager that Jewish success/power is of great interest to Chinese students of politics and strategy. How could it not be if they are realists?

  89. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    The free world’s hope, as most of the global population will be represented in Kazan:
     
    A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together, Why somebody as important as you Mickey will not be a keynote speaker at this circus is beyond me (NOT!) ?

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    Hanging your hat on the dictator rhetorical line I see. The paradox of the dictator is that he generally enjoys something like popularity for a while and if bad at the job gets it in the neck eventually and is thus accountable.

    In western democracy no one in charge ever pays a price.

  90. @emil nikola richard
    Chaos magic in Russia. 30:44

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0byP2XSX-4

    He seems to think Adam Curtis's tv shows about Vladislav Surkov are reliable documentaries among other howlers but WHAT CAN WE EXPECT?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it. The “chaos” approach has been playing in the West for a very long time, so looking to Russia for examples seems like misdirection.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC


    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it.
     
    He is from Los Angeles. Not all of them are like that but they seem to have a huge fraction. Do you think he wears a wig? Yesterday I saw a clip of a negro talk show where they spoke Harvard Stanford English and the women were both wearing wigs from Vietnam. The three minute clip had the men saying nothing. Funny as a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

    Replies: @QCIC

  91. @Mikhail
    Moldovans prefer freedom:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/605996-moldovans-reject-eu-integration/

    EU = PU

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Moldovans prefer freedom”

    Not quite – in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, “No” was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don’t know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote – transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    When put to referendum how have Euro voters voted on joining EU? Democratic support seems like it's pretty shaky.

    A fellow told me when they moved from the gilder to the Euro the price of a beer in a pub in Amsterdam doubled instantaneously. Anybody tell the Moldova voters those stories?

    , @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.
     
    A small country permanently harms itself by joining the EU.

    Schengen for employment means that large chunks of the best young single citizens will go elsewhere in the EU for the much higher pay potential. Not only is this the proverbial Brain Drain, it also savagely undercuts family formation. Those who marry abroad rarely return.

    If Moldova genuinely wants to be more "European", they need a different arrangement.

    reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, “No” was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes
     
    This may not be vote rigging. Pretty much all of those overseas voters want to stay in the EU. So, they have vested personal interests in keeping momentum going towards membership.
    ___

    One wonders if the pipeline is frozen solid though. Both Turkey and Ukraine are ahead of Moldova in the EU queue. And, neither of those are promising. Moldova may have to settle for a lesser, no Schengen, economic deal.

    Occasionally, one can reach the right political answer for the wrong reasons.

    PEACE 😇
    , @Mikhail
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Moldovans in Moldova are against the idea. Moldovans in Russia didn't have as easy a situation to vote when compared to the Moldovans in the EU as you note. Russia was accused of busing people to the polls. The corrupting of the vote was from the EU/NATO puppet Sandu side.

    , @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Still, it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.
     
    52% (or whatever the anti-EU vote was before the western emigres were counted) means "pretty much united against the idea" in your world?

    The percentage within Moldova includes people in Transnistria (why is their vote "better" than that of Moldovans in Romania?), ethnic Russians, etc. Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  92. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mikhail

    "Moldovans prefer freedom"


    Not quite - in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, "No" was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don't know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote - transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @Mikhail, @AP

    When put to referendum how have Euro voters voted on joining EU? Democratic support seems like it’s pretty shaky.

    A fellow told me when they moved from the gilder to the Euro the price of a beer in a pub in Amsterdam doubled instantaneously. Anybody tell the Moldova voters those stories?

  93. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it. The "chaos" approach has been playing in the West for a very long time, so looking to Russia for examples seems like misdirection.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_29yvYpf4w

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it.

    He is from Los Angeles. Not all of them are like that but they seem to have a huge fraction. Do you think he wears a wig? Yesterday I saw a clip of a negro talk show where they spoke Harvard Stanford English and the women were both wearing wigs from Vietnam. The three minute clip had the men saying nothing. Funny as a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    I'm hoping it is his real hair, but he is pretty old for that kind of mop. If real, it may come down to spells and potions.

  94. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I saw someone on X call her "Kakala.". Which I thought was very appropriate and descriptive.

    I am still debating whether that sounds better, but it was my inspiration, being near Halloween, to transform that into "Kakula" (like Dracula.)

    I like Emil's term (which has its own very appropriate descriptive value), but think we should each have our own.

    Briefly, I considered calling her Kakula Harris-lines, but I think that would have been a bridge too far. Kind of like when you tried to call Putin, Putleria or something. (hitler + malaria?)

    But while I like the term "Harris-lines.". Not many people know it outside of specialized fields, like archeology (which I have a small interest in) or radiology.

    I know these sort of name changes might seem like low-brow stuff to some, but imo we might as well get some fun out the decline of America.

    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    They’re all deserving of some merit, but I’m disappointed that you didn’t even give me a favorable mention. “Camel Toe”, ya know, is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_toe 🙁

    I first heard the term from a friend of mine that’s a real hard core Trumpist.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Lmao. TBH, I think yours is a little too visual. (And I find Kamala quite disgusting.)

    If she were younger and looked like that Prosecutie character, maybe, I would be more on-the-fence about it.

  95. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean "enlistees", to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees. :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean “enlistees”, to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees.

    My guess is that they are sending NK soldiers on suicide missions into Kursk.

    One way ticket for everyone. Their lives were already purchased.

    If they desert then they still have to escape Russia. Kursk is showing rain this weekend with a 32 degree low.

    • Troll: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    It's not that far to the Ukrainian border. I'm sure that the Ukrainian press will have a heyday interviewing these unfortunate souls while unraveling their various stories.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  96. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mikhail

    "Moldovans prefer freedom"


    Not quite - in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, "No" was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don't know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote - transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @Mikhail, @AP

    Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    A small country permanently harms itself by joining the EU.

    Schengen for employment means that large chunks of the best young single citizens will go elsewhere in the EU for the much higher pay potential. Not only is this the proverbial Brain Drain, it also savagely undercuts family formation. Those who marry abroad rarely return.

    If Moldova genuinely wants to be more “European”, they need a different arrangement.

    reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, “No” was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes

    This may not be vote rigging. Pretty much all of those overseas voters want to stay in the EU. So, they have vested personal interests in keeping momentum going towards membership.
    ___

    One wonders if the pipeline is frozen solid though. Both Turkey and Ukraine are ahead of Moldova in the EU queue. And, neither of those are promising. Moldova may have to settle for a lesser, no Schengen, economic deal.

    Occasionally, one can reach the right political answer for the wrong reasons.

    PEACE 😇

  97. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Sounds like a pile of propaganda to me.

    Max Hastings is a nice chap, but not sure about this

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-20/putin-s-war-selling-out-ukraine-casts-shame-on-the-west


    There has been a grievous failure of leadership in the West. The only people who can claim to have contrived finest hours from the Ukraine war are the Ukrainians.
     
    We had a lot of finest hours in 1914-15, I remember. And a lot of dead young men.

    Their allies are proving to lack steel and staying power for a protracted conflict. Some analysts derive comfort from the fact that the West has supported Ukraine thus far, and made Putin pay a heavy price for a very limited success. I am unconvinced by this half-a-loaf argument. To me, it looks more as if Putin’s belief is well-founded, that the West is decadent and divided — thus vulnerable.
     
    No, we LITERALLY lack steel. We have almost given up making it. But you're right about being decadent and divided. Our elites decided to dissolve the people and import another. We aren't the people of 1939-45 - and we never again will be. The same applies to the States.

    I just take comfort in that Putin's Russian Hordes are most unlikely to get to the Channel. What's in the UK for Russia? Our vibrant Kurdish barber and cannabis cultivation industries? They already have decent kebabs.


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    We are reaching the "acceptance" stage at last.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.

    Doesn’t make any sense.

    The ISW is predicting that Putin’s offensive will grind to a halt in 2025 due to a lack of armor.

    Might as well wait to see if that is the case.

    A lot can change in the next 3 months due to the elections and the weather.

    Hastings is voicing the opinion of the profits-first attitude of Bloomberg. They would like the war to end so they can go back to business as usual. Yea well….oh well.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Grandma has to warm her apartment in Cologne, Paris, Glasgow, Amsterdam, Berlin, London, Lubeck, Calais and so on.

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world. Production is small compared to China and the USA, but this is still a solid ag sector like many others they have. This leads to food security. US stats shows 5% CAGR for the Russian pork industry since 2014 (sanctions). Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don't think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  98. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    They're all deserving of some merit, but I'm disappointed that you didn't even give me a favorable mention. "Camel Toe", ya know, is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_toe :-(

    I first heard the term from a friend of mine that's a real hard core Trumpist.

    Replies: @songbird

    Lmao. TBH, I think yours is a little too visual. (And I find Kamala quite disgusting.)

    If she were younger and looked like that Prosecutie character, maybe, I would be more on-the-fence about it.

  99. @Mikhail
    Regarding the NATO proxy war against Russia, Scott Ritter debunks the anonymous crank trolls in slam dunk fashion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO0VYghrMtQ

    An entertaining debate between Gil Doctorow and John Helmer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV0FhnePgYk

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Regarding the NATO proxy war against Russia, Scott Ritter debunks the anonymous crank trolls in slam dunk fashion:

    What exactly did he debunk?

    Scott Ritter in 2023 explains that NATO is stupid for thinking the war will go on for another year and how Ukraine will run out men by November 2024

    Of course the quiet stooge that nods his head like a lapdog will never ask Scott about his past predictions.

  100. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Do you think that the Russian overlords will keep a closer watch on their new Korean “enlistees”, to avoid any more embarrassing desertions? They should be able to accomplish this, as they had plenty of opportunities to practice these skills while monitoring their own prisoner enlistees.

    My guess is that they are sending NK soldiers on suicide missions into Kursk.

    One way ticket for everyone. Their lives were already purchased.

    If they desert then they still have to escape Russia. Kursk is showing rain this weekend with a 32 degree low.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    It’s not that far to the Ukrainian border. I’m sure that the Ukrainian press will have a heyday interviewing these unfortunate souls while unraveling their various stories.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Let's see one such well verified case and not some Buryat masquerading as a Nork. Likely BS.

    DPRK doesn't have enough military regulars who speak Russian. Much like the problem of finding English speaking Ukes with F-16 pilot potential to train. Russia has a well stacked, well trained military on its own.

    Rather idiotic for a pro-svido to mention Kursk, given the whupping Kiev regime forces have taken there.

  101. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC


    Ronnie is very articulate but he seems to be full of it.
     
    He is from Los Angeles. Not all of them are like that but they seem to have a huge fraction. Do you think he wears a wig? Yesterday I saw a clip of a negro talk show where they spoke Harvard Stanford English and the women were both wearing wigs from Vietnam. The three minute clip had the men saying nothing. Funny as a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I’m hoping it is his real hair, but he is pretty old for that kind of mop. If real, it may come down to spells and potions.

  102. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    Doesn't make any sense.

    The ISW is predicting that Putin's offensive will grind to a halt in 2025 due to a lack of armor.

    Might as well wait to see if that is the case.

    A lot can change in the next 3 months due to the elections and the weather.

    Hastings is voicing the opinion of the profits-first attitude of Bloomberg. They would like the war to end so they can go back to business as usual. Yea well....oh well.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

    Grandma has to warm her apartment in Cologne, Paris, Glasgow, Amsterdam, Berlin, London, Lubeck, Calais and so on.

  103. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Even if Kamala Harris reaches the White House, it is likely she will pursue a deal to end the war because Washington sees no scenario for Ukrainian victory, despite the dispatch of $175 billion in US aid.
     
    Doesn't make any sense.

    The ISW is predicting that Putin's offensive will grind to a halt in 2025 due to a lack of armor.

    Might as well wait to see if that is the case.

    A lot can change in the next 3 months due to the elections and the weather.

    Hastings is voicing the opinion of the profits-first attitude of Bloomberg. They would like the war to end so they can go back to business as usual. Yea well....oh well.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

    I don’t think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world. Production is small compared to China and the USA, but this is still a solid ag sector like many others they have. This leads to food security. US stats shows 5% CAGR for the Russian pork industry since 2014 (sanctions). Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don’t think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world.

    I don't see what that has to do with ISW predictions of them lacking armor.

    A Zed blogger recently said that conscripts had to buy their own warm underwear. I think he has since been arrested.

    So long on pigs and short on underwear and tanks. A true Orc military. I am still holding out for conscripts on horseback. We have seen them in golf carts but I want a cavalry charge with AK-47s. Could well be the last cavalry charge in European history. Do it Putin! You have no shame anyways!

    Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I'm interested in data and it's not a matter of patience.

    Your pork stats and patience wouldn't be much consolation to a conscript that is freezing his balls off. Hey but look at our pork production! It's up 50%!!!

    They had a lack of winter gear in the first "Great Winter Offensive" that never happened.

    Putin's bootlickers are back to hoping that Grandmas freeze over the winter. Only the most morally outstanding men line up for this war. Freeze Grandma freeze!!!!!

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don’t think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    You'd have to provide a source. Agriculture isn't going to be dependent on Western parts. They've had production shortages with anything that uses Western chips.

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    Well Scott Ritter said they will be out of men in November. We will see if the prognosticating pederast gets one right.

    Spoiler:

    Nope.

    Replies: @QCIC

  104. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world. Production is small compared to China and the USA, but this is still a solid ag sector like many others they have. This leads to food security. US stats shows 5% CAGR for the Russian pork industry since 2014 (sanctions). Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don't think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I don’t think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world.

    I don’t see what that has to do with ISW predictions of them lacking armor.

    A Zed blogger recently said that conscripts had to buy their own warm underwear. I think he has since been arrested.

    So long on pigs and short on underwear and tanks. A true Orc military. I am still holding out for conscripts on horseback. We have seen them in golf carts but I want a cavalry charge with AK-47s. Could well be the last cavalry charge in European history. Do it Putin! You have no shame anyways!

    Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I’m interested in data and it’s not a matter of patience.

    Your pork stats and patience wouldn’t be much consolation to a conscript that is freezing his balls off. Hey but look at our pork production! It’s up 50%!!!

    They had a lack of winter gear in the first “Great Winter Offensive” that never happened.

    Putin’s bootlickers are back to hoping that Grandmas freeze over the winter. Only the most morally outstanding men line up for this war. Freeze Grandma freeze!!!!!

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don’t think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    You’d have to provide a source. Agriculture isn’t going to be dependent on Western parts. They’ve had production shortages with anything that uses Western chips.

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    Well Scott Ritter said they will be out of men in November. We will see if the prognosticating pederast gets one right.

    Spoiler:

    [MORE]

    Nope.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't believe the West expected to defeat Russia militarily in Ukraine. I think our evil 'masterminds' hoped the combination of Russian military embarrassments, widespread shortages due to sanctions, general economic distress due to sanctions and intense fifth column manipulation of Russian society and government would bring down the Russian power structure. Then it would be remade to suit Western plans.

    Russia does have important shortages of goods, but these may be fewer than in 2022 and maybe even 2014! It is too early to call, but the anti-Russia sanctions could be a total backfire. The pork production is simply an example of this issue. Also a reminder that the John McCain meme of Russia as a gas station is simply incorrect.

    The supposed bottleneck for Russian agriculture was for specialized items such as high performance seeds and breeding stock. Since they are wise enough to avoid GMO products they may have been gradually dealing with this issue even before 2014.

    No one wants the babushkas to freeze. Good people want the criminal leaders and thugs who have enslaved Ukraine to be a Western pawn to feel pain and take responsibility for their misdeeds. Military destruction of infrastructure is a standard way to put pressure on everyone instead of just the troops getting blown up at the front.

    Russian can probably refresh old tanks faster than Ukraine can raise more young men.

  105. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mikhail

    "Moldovans prefer freedom"


    Not quite - in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, "No" was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don't know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote - transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @Mikhail, @AP

    Moldovans in Moldova are against the idea. Moldovans in Russia didn’t have as easy a situation to vote when compared to the Moldovans in the EU as you note. Russia was accused of busing people to the polls. The corrupting of the vote was from the EU/NATO puppet Sandu side.

  106. Here is a question for those with Russian fluency:

    I remember very vividly being taught in the tenth grade about “Bloody October”. I straightaway made the connection to “Red October” (i.e. Tom Clancy).

    Am wondering if either/or/none of these terms are actually used in Russian. As far as I can tell, the phrase “October Revolution” is the one that is actually used the most. But do the others actually exist?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Did your teacher promote Tom Clancy? He was on top of the best seller listing but I don't believe many teachers were readers.

    Ronald Reagan hosted him in the Oval office.

    https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/public/archives/photographs/large/c27696-21.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

  107. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...A bunch of dictators, child sexual perverts and other misfits and cranks getting together
     
    Starmer, Macron, Trudeau, Sholz, interchangeable Jap, and old cranky guy from US...it sounds about right...:)

    The average approval rate of the G7 leaders is in high 20's, quite some democrats...How about picking better leaders at home?

    Replies: @AP

    From the previous Open Thread:

    In Poland, the Communists were insincere in their Communism….Poles looked down on Czechoslovaks because they seemed to have been more sincere in their communism.

    3 million “insincere” Polish commies? With their families that would be quarter to third of the population. For 40 years.

    Of course. You think Commies ever won an election in Poland, or could have won one?

    Communism was imposed upon Poland by Soviet tanks and maintained by the threat of Soviet tanks (and those of the DDR, and Czechoslovakia). Open resistance would not have been successful. Party membership was necessary to advance in certain careers and was otherwise helpful. So millions were members, despite disliking the overall conditions. Membership was a means to an end and nothing more for the vast majority, including leaders themselves.

    It sounds like a real mental sh.thole of a country. Three million Poles lying daily for 40 years!!!

    You do it now, and yet you somehow survive.

    They at least did not lie to themselves. Nor did most of them blame one another. Everyone understood this was the unpleasant condition they had to live under. There was a balancing act – how much could they get away with, without Moscow sending tanks in. They tried to get away with as much as they could. Jaruzelski sent tanks in not because he was a Commie believer but because he feared that the protests would upset the balance and a Soviet invasion would follow; better his milder approach than a more-brutal Soviet one. But the Soviets couldn’t be too strict either – they didn’t eliminate the Church, or insist on sincerity towards Communism by Poles or otherwise push them into open rebellion because an invasion of a country of that size and determination could be messy. So there was an uneasy balance.

    Poles dumped the system as soon as they had the chance, when it was clear that they wouldn’t be invaded for doing so.

    Poles were amazed at and looked down on Czechoslovaks, who really were much more sincere in their Communism. They would visit and laugh. Fortunately the people of Czechoslovakia have gotten much better – most of them.

    But the loathing is mutual, we look down on the Poles as being poor, messy, and unreliable in business

    Poland is richer than Slovakia (though not Czechia), business is better, I don’t know about messiness but you have far more Roma so there are far messier places in your country.

    If you think Poles are poor and messy, what must you think of Hungarians lol.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Oh, boy, your usual incoherent screed.

    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only "pretended"? Wow, are you insane? You spend a lot of time denying the obvious, maybe you really are a nutter...

    Three million commies couldn't be pretending. You don't seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90, the internal forces, the disputes, the culture...Or are you telling us that the Poles are a nation of habitual liars?

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look - I don't want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert - then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava, it's a completely different world. I am sorry, but you either don't know what you are talking about or you are too stupid to understand it.

    The 'merican "education" strikes again...:) Or it could be just you.

    Replies: @AP

  108. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mikhail

    "Moldovans prefer freedom"


    Not quite - in a turnaround reminiscent of the 2020 US election after the polls closed, "No" was winning until the votes from Moldovans resident in the EU came in, and they were just enough to tip the scale by around 15,000 votes. Don't know what the voting arrangements were like in the EU, but in Russia Moldova apparently opened two polling stations, both in Moscow, for the 300,000 Moldovans resident in Russia. Turnout there was only 5%.

    If the above is true (from MoA comments) it strikes me Russia should have enabled as many Moldovan voters as possible to vote - transport, paid time off, etc.

    Still, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @Mikhail, @AP

    Still, it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.

    52% (or whatever the anti-EU vote was before the western emigres were counted) means “pretty much united against the idea” in your world?

    The percentage within Moldova includes people in Transnistria (why is their vote “better” than that of Moldovans in Romania?), ethnic Russians, etc. Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    " Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU."

    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.

    Replies: @AP

  109. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    PS - major US-Russia confrontation would surely be the moment for China to move in Taiwan and South China Sea.

    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Great_Powers

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.

    The mistake that Russia tumbled into, for Washington’s and Beijing’s benefit.

  110. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    It's not that far to the Ukrainian border. I'm sure that the Ukrainian press will have a heyday interviewing these unfortunate souls while unraveling their various stories.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Let’s see one such well verified case and not some Buryat masquerading as a Nork. Likely BS.

    DPRK doesn’t have enough military regulars who speak Russian. Much like the problem of finding English speaking Ukes with F-16 pilot potential to train. Russia has a well stacked, well trained military on its own.

    Rather idiotic for a pro-svido to mention Kursk, given the whupping Kiev regime forces have taken there.

  111. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    PS - major US-Russia confrontation would surely be the moment for China to move in Taiwan and South China Sea.

    As Paul Kennedy puts it, while the point of being a Great Power is to be able to fight a major war, the way to stay a great power is not to fight one.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Great_Powers

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    Nice cover for a parasitic proxy war enthusiastically supported by the uber chickenhawk likes of Lindsey Graham.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mikhail

    Doesn't China have the ability to put a vacuum seal tight blockade on the island of Taiwan? China invading Taiwan might be the most fantastic neocon fantasy floating around out there.

  112. • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin's top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C "War is in mop up stage" Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC, @Sean, @Derer

  113. @songbird
    Here is a question for those with Russian fluency:

    I remember very vividly being taught in the tenth grade about "Bloody October". I straightaway made the connection to "Red October" (i.e. Tom Clancy).

    Am wondering if either/or/none of these terms are actually used in Russian. As far as I can tell, the phrase "October Revolution" is the one that is actually used the most. But do the others actually exist?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Did your teacher promote Tom Clancy? He was on top of the best seller listing but I don’t believe many teachers were readers.

    Ronald Reagan hosted him in the Oval office.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    I only knew of him through pop culture.

    At that time, my teacher was a lesbo-looking woman (though with a boyfriend) who seemed to have radical leftist (at least to me) politics.

    I may have been too sensitive, but I thought we had mutual antipathy. (And some other kid seemed to pick up on this.). Btw, she didn't like my paper on Robert E. Lee.

    Being a kid, I once did something really crazy. We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German. (I can't believe I ever did something this stupid). But it either didn't register (as I had planned), or she ignored it benignantly, thinking of the negative consequences it would bring me.

    The former still seems more likely to me.

    I think she left to teach inner city kids, at the end of the year.

    Replies: @S1

  114. @Mikhail
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Nice cover for a parasitic proxy war enthusiastically supported by the uber chickenhawk likes of Lindsey Graham.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Doesn’t China have the ability to put a vacuum seal tight blockade on the island of Taiwan? China invading Taiwan might be the most fantastic neocon fantasy floating around out there.

  115. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Did your teacher promote Tom Clancy? He was on top of the best seller listing but I don't believe many teachers were readers.

    Ronald Reagan hosted him in the Oval office.

    https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/public/archives/photographs/large/c27696-21.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    I only knew of him through pop culture.

    [MORE]

    At that time, my teacher was a lesbo-looking woman (though with a boyfriend) who seemed to have radical leftist (at least to me) politics.

    I may have been too sensitive, but I thought we had mutual antipathy. (And some other kid seemed to pick up on this.). Btw, she didn’t like my paper on Robert E. Lee.

    Being a kid, I once did something really crazy. We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German. (I can’t believe I ever did something this stupid). But it either didn’t register (as I had planned), or she ignored it benignantly, thinking of the negative consequences it would bring me.

    The former still seems more likely to me.

    I think she left to teach inner city kids, at the end of the year.

    • Replies: @S1
    @songbird


    We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German.
     
    Did your classroom's finished map look anything like this one by chance? ;-)

    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizK8ClgK6tKVVZReZ38sLP0trNg72__Lbh2fwqIcpceoL2CAAF4EUy33-77FAwHFdDQenU0XGy6OsnvN5_wwgOwh70eRlVCeI3OsVdebwp_p9Z3jpaMfuVeWefotoGx4BIZeIWP-NE6dk/s1227/StarvaniaImage.jpg

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

  116. @Mikhail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ErpmKr-5Y&t=554s

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin’s top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C “War is in mop up stage” Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Well, good for you. I think you sometimes have to wait a while for Abradley tag-team death porn videos to cheer about. The file isn't loading properly so I have to guess. We are really happy for you. Not really.

    BTW, when is the first freeze over there?

    , @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin’s top British bootlicker
     
    Not sure saying Russia is winning is the way to go is you were a venal Westerner. There is likely more of a return for a pro Ukraine stance on social media for a YTer in Britain like him .

    Apart from their views going up if they highlight successes of the side their particular audience favours, I don't think it matters much what anyone says on social media in the West about how the war is going. It might if Washington was really on the cusp of full on aiding Ukraine to a complete victory, but the invasion was on Biden's watch and at not time has his administration given Ukraine even a fraction of what the US could (the American army have hundreds of Abrams tanks in storage). The Russian funds in the US are frozen but only the interest on them is being used to pay for aid to Ukraine.

    Arguably, Washington could enable Ukraine to decisively beat Russia, but not without producing a global geopolitical shift against America's interests in relation to future containment of China. Such a victory would clearly be of America over Russia (the navigation contour matching system is 100% American making it a US aimed attack whoever's long range missiles are being used to hit deep inside Russia). It is now getting on for three years later; the evidence is that Washington does not want Russia to be trounced in Ukraine.

    American strategist's clear preference is for Russia to more or less settle for their gains so far and quit fighting. That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine. I think there is a sense that Russia is starting to gain momentum, and there is no feasible way of stopping their advances without trying to really defeat them, which Washington seems to have ruled out. So Washington is is now in a quandary that the Pentagon doubtless warned them about 18months ago, This fellow seems quite objective on how things are going in Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2fjrJt3LU&t=52s

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC

    , @Derer
    @John Johnson

    ZALUZHNY SIGNALS, WAR IS LOST!

  117. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin's top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C "War is in mop up stage" Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC, @Sean, @Derer

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    I'll personally benefit in any outcome.

    That is what the alliance of the resentful doesn't get.

    The people that lose in this war are regular Russians and Ukrainians. Putin isn't sticking it to the West by killing Ukrainians in Western gear.

    The last military aid package was mostly a massive order to the military industrial complex. That is the bill that Trump handed Johnson which masterfully split the MAGA opposition. Trump will sign another bill if needed.

    This war was a colossal mistake and everyone knows it. Even the Russians know this war is a waste as seen by the fact that Putin has to keep increasing the bonus amount to hire conscripts. He has clearly burned through his voluntary patriots. Historically militaries start having problems when a significant number of troops are only there for the money. You get fewer heroes and more deserters.

    Putin's bootlickers may believe in the war but actual Russians want money up front.

    Putin doubles bonus to contractors
    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-decree-payment-doubled-ukraine-war/33057925.html

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC

  118. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Sean

    " The Chinese have ‘form’ for that type of thing; they gave Pakistan missile parts."

    On the other hand it was the Germans and Belgians who taught AQ Khan uranium metallurgy, then the British/Dutch/German URENCO who gave him a job producing U-235. Within a couple of years Khan was stealing the centrifuge designs and sending them to Pakistan.

    Then there's this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan#Career_in_Europe


    Ruud Lubbers, Prime Minister of the Netherlands at the time, later said that the General Intelligence and Security Service (BVD) was aware of Khan's espionage activities but he was allowed to continue due to pressure from the CIA, with the US backing Pakistan during the Cold War. This was also highlighted when despite Archie Pervez (Khan's associate for nuclear procurement in the US) being convicted in 1988, no action was taken against Khan or his proliferation network by the US government which needed the support of Pakistan during the Soviet–Afghan War.
     
    Cheers lads!

    Replies: @Sean

    I think Pakistan is very much like North Korea, both have benefited from irregularly obtaining nuclear technology from the west, but the key source of their actual nuclear weapons capability is China.

    In was in the 1970s that AQ Kham stole the plans of a British/ German/ Netherlands owned enrichment plant in the Netherlands, but North Korea’s first reactor appears to have been be based on the obsolete 1950s British Magnox, which was primarily a military plutonium plant. Design information of Magnox was not classified and appeared in technical journals. In 2002 / 2003, North Korea got high strength aluminium from Russia and Britain, apparently for making centrifuges.

    However, China is known to have provided Pakistan with parts used in uranium enrichment (by the way, China gave Iran two tons of Uranium), and China also gave Pakistannuclear capable missiles plus the design information on how to build them. Pakistan’s nuclear missile is suspiciously similar to the ICBM North Korea developed so astoundingly quickly once Trump was elected. However both are similar to the Chinese ICBM that preexisted both, I think China has obvious motives to help Pakistan, which is used by China as a cat’s paw to help North Korea. If Trump were to be elected again you would see North Korea become a loud international nuisance again, and make suspiciously sudden technological jumps resulting in very Chinese looking missiles again.

  119. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Russia is in a hurry in Ukraine. Heck, they are now tied for 4th largest pork producer in the world.

    I don't see what that has to do with ISW predictions of them lacking armor.

    A Zed blogger recently said that conscripts had to buy their own warm underwear. I think he has since been arrested.

    So long on pigs and short on underwear and tanks. A true Orc military. I am still holding out for conscripts on horseback. We have seen them in golf carts but I want a cavalry charge with AK-47s. Could well be the last cavalry charge in European history. Do it Putin! You have no shame anyways!

    Many other sectors show similar consistent progress which makes a big difference if you are patient.

    I'm interested in data and it's not a matter of patience.

    Your pork stats and patience wouldn't be much consolation to a conscript that is freezing his balls off. Hey but look at our pork production! It's up 50%!!!

    They had a lack of winter gear in the first "Great Winter Offensive" that never happened.

    Putin's bootlickers are back to hoping that Grandmas freeze over the winter. Only the most morally outstanding men line up for this war. Freeze Grandma freeze!!!!!

    I think Phillip Owen predicted that progress in many key Russian ag sectors would stall out due to lack of essential Western inputs. I don’t think this has occurred. I wonder what happened?

    You'd have to provide a source. Agriculture isn't going to be dependent on Western parts. They've had production shortages with anything that uses Western chips.

    The Ukrainian ability to fight will continue to fade due to lack of men.

    Well Scott Ritter said they will be out of men in November. We will see if the prognosticating pederast gets one right.

    Spoiler:

    Nope.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t believe the West expected to defeat Russia militarily in Ukraine. I think our evil ‘masterminds’ hoped the combination of Russian military embarrassments, widespread shortages due to sanctions, general economic distress due to sanctions and intense fifth column manipulation of Russian society and government would bring down the Russian power structure. Then it would be remade to suit Western plans.

    Russia does have important shortages of goods, but these may be fewer than in 2022 and maybe even 2014! It is too early to call, but the anti-Russia sanctions could be a total backfire. The pork production is simply an example of this issue. Also a reminder that the John McCain meme of Russia as a gas station is simply incorrect.

    The supposed bottleneck for Russian agriculture was for specialized items such as high performance seeds and breeding stock. Since they are wise enough to avoid GMO products they may have been gradually dealing with this issue even before 2014.

    No one wants the babushkas to freeze. Good people want the criminal leaders and thugs who have enslaved Ukraine to be a Western pawn to feel pain and take responsibility for their misdeeds. Military destruction of infrastructure is a standard way to put pressure on everyone instead of just the troops getting blown up at the front.

    Russian can probably refresh old tanks faster than Ukraine can raise more young men.

    • Agree: Sean
  120. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin's top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C "War is in mop up stage" Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC, @Sean, @Derer

    Well, good for you. I think you sometimes have to wait a while for Abradley tag-team death porn videos to cheer about. The file isn’t loading properly so I have to guess. We are really happy for you. Not really.

    BTW, when is the first freeze over there?

  121. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin's top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C "War is in mop up stage" Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC, @Sean, @Derer

    Putin’s top British bootlicker

    Not sure saying Russia is winning is the way to go is you were a venal Westerner. There is likely more of a return for a pro Ukraine stance on social media for a YTer in Britain like him .

    Apart from their views going up if they highlight successes of the side their particular audience favours, I don’t think it matters much what anyone says on social media in the West about how the war is going. It might if Washington was really on the cusp of full on aiding Ukraine to a complete victory, but the invasion was on Biden’s watch and at not time has his administration given Ukraine even a fraction of what the US could (the American army have hundreds of Abrams tanks in storage). The Russian funds in the US are frozen but only the interest on them is being used to pay for aid to Ukraine.

    Arguably, Washington could enable Ukraine to decisively beat Russia, but not without producing a global geopolitical shift against America’s interests in relation to future containment of China. Such a victory would clearly be of America over Russia (the navigation contour matching system is 100% American making it a US aimed attack whoever’s long range missiles are being used to hit deep inside Russia). It is now getting on for three years later; the evidence is that Washington does not want Russia to be trounced in Ukraine.

    American strategist’s clear preference is for Russia to more or less settle for their gains so far and quit fighting. That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine. I think there is a sense that Russia is starting to gain momentum, and there is no feasible way of stopping their advances without trying to really defeat them, which Washington seems to have ruled out. So Washington is is now in a quandary that the Pentagon doubtless warned them about 18months ago, This fellow seems quite objective on how things are going in Ukraine.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Sean


    That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine.
     
    Is it really up to Washington? Based on its actions, Russia prefers to not "conquer all of Ukraine".
    , @QCIC
    @Sean

    I finally watched this helpful German military review video on the Ukraine conflict from last week. It is a bit more informative than JJ's war porn videos.

    Considering this is a NATO production and highly pro-Ukraine I think the message is that "Ukraine is done." The speaker closes by emphasizing NATO preparation for the NEXT war.

    I suppose people who want more military aid for Ukraine do not understand the proxy war notion. The reason for starting a proxy war is that your country is unable or unwilling to start a real war. Meaning that the West never intended to give Ukraine full support. Doing so would simply be a full scale attack by the West on Russia which the more sane Western leaders would not allow. So the proxy war lives in a delimited conceptual zone where the West can attack Russia strongly without forcing Russia to immediately escalate they way she would in a full scale war. From a tactical perspective I think the West planned and prepared this fairly well. However, this was always profoundly risky since a successful proxy war campaign might simply lead to full scale war, most likely involving nuclear weapons. On the other hand, Russia also played her limited cards very well and stayed in long enough without dramatic escalation up to the present time where she can win this war on her own terms.

    At this point the tally is:

    - The Russian financial system survived several years of heavy, war-like sanctions.

    - The Russian agricultural complex is stronger than ever.

    - The Russian industrial complex is stronger than 2022 and much stronger than 2014.

    - The Russian political power structure seems intact and Putin is as strong as ever.

    - Russian strategic nuclear capabilities may now be stronger even than peak Soviet levels.

    - Russian conventional war fighting capabilities have gradually improved despite heavy losses in Ukraine.

    - Russian capability with hypersonic missiles is best in the world, for the moment.

    - Russia has demonstrated very effective drone and anti-drone warfare skill despite having one hand tied up (since this is a proxy war). The one hand is unwillingness to attack satellites which are important or possibly crucial to Western war fighting.

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected. However, Russia may publicly accept terms which are not as favorable as one would envision. I think the essential items are no NATO in Ukraine and restrictions on Western involvement in the country to avoid a flare up of the this mess in the next ten years. There will be a lot of room for Western and Ukrainian face saving.

    Whatever occurs, the Western MSM will spin it as a Russian failure so don't be surprised if you need to read between the lines to understand what actually transpired.

    Replies: @Sean, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

  122. @AP
    @Beckow

    From the previous Open Thread:


    In Poland, the Communists were insincere in their Communism….Poles looked down on Czechoslovaks because they seemed to have been more sincere in their communism.

    3 million “insincere” Polish commies? With their families that would be quarter to third of the population. For 40 years.
     
    Of course. You think Commies ever won an election in Poland, or could have won one?

    Communism was imposed upon Poland by Soviet tanks and maintained by the threat of Soviet tanks (and those of the DDR, and Czechoslovakia). Open resistance would not have been successful. Party membership was necessary to advance in certain careers and was otherwise helpful. So millions were members, despite disliking the overall conditions. Membership was a means to an end and nothing more for the vast majority, including leaders themselves.

    It sounds like a real mental sh.thole of a country. Three million Poles lying daily for 40 years!!!
     
    You do it now, and yet you somehow survive.

    They at least did not lie to themselves. Nor did most of them blame one another. Everyone understood this was the unpleasant condition they had to live under. There was a balancing act - how much could they get away with, without Moscow sending tanks in. They tried to get away with as much as they could. Jaruzelski sent tanks in not because he was a Commie believer but because he feared that the protests would upset the balance and a Soviet invasion would follow; better his milder approach than a more-brutal Soviet one. But the Soviets couldn't be too strict either - they didn't eliminate the Church, or insist on sincerity towards Communism by Poles or otherwise push them into open rebellion because an invasion of a country of that size and determination could be messy. So there was an uneasy balance.

    Poles dumped the system as soon as they had the chance, when it was clear that they wouldn't be invaded for doing so.

    Poles were amazed at and looked down on Czechoslovaks, who really were much more sincere in their Communism. They would visit and laugh. Fortunately the people of Czechoslovakia have gotten much better - most of them.

    But the loathing is mutual, we look down on the Poles as being poor, messy, and unreliable in business
     
    Poland is richer than Slovakia (though not Czechia), business is better, I don't know about messiness but you have far more Roma so there are far messier places in your country.

    If you think Poles are poor and messy, what must you think of Hungarians lol.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Oh, boy, your usual incoherent screed.

    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only “pretended”? Wow, are you insane? You spend a lot of time denying the obvious, maybe you really are a nutter…

    Three million commies couldn’t be pretending. You don’t seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90, the internal forces, the disputes, the culture…Or are you telling us that the Poles are a nation of habitual liars?

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look – I don’t want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert – then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava, it’s a completely different world. I am sorry, but you either don’t know what you are talking about or you are too stupid to understand it.

    The ‘merican “education” strikes again…:) Or it could be just you.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only “pretended”?
     
    Obviously.

    Would someone refuse a promotion or cut oneself off from the possibility of getting a promotion, or rather pretend? Such was life. But since everyone knew it was a stupid but necessary game most people didn't hold it against anyone for pretending.

    You don't understand that, because your people were comically sincere in their Communism.

    It was because in Poland it was an unwanted pretense the whole time, that the system collapsed there right away after the threat of tanks was gone.

    Three million commies couldn’t be pretending. You don’t seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90
     
    I know the basic fact that Communism there was an imposed system that people paid lip service to despite not liking it, because they had to.

    You don't even know that.

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look – I don’t want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert – then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava
     
    I've only been to the Warsaw airport so can't say much about the city, it was mostly destroyed during the war and rebuilt under Commies so I would expect ugliness (everything they did was ugly), but there has been a building boom in the last 20 years so it probably has some impressive modern buildings.

    But I have really seen Krakow. It was incomparably cleaner and less shabby than Budapest, where I spent about a week in 2019. Even AnoninTN agreed with me that Budapest was rundown and dirty (only the castle district was up to the civilized standards of Austria or Poland). Maybe Budapest has improved since then.

    Wroclaw and Lublin are supposed to be beautiful. I plan to visit them next summer.

    Vienna was nice, the medieval downtown was great, the museums and palaces also, and the parts of downtown that were not medieval reminded me of central Moscow. If Bratislava is more like Austria or Poland it should be nice, if it is more like Hungary I would expect it to be shabby and rundown looking. Fortunately, the pictures I see of it suggest that it is more like Austria or Poland rather than like Hungary.

    I haven't been to Prague. I imagine Austrian influence has been good for it and that therefore it is more like Vienna or Krakow than like Budapest.

    The ‘merican “education”
     
    Only the best in the world. How do your secondary schools and universities rank again?

    This is Krakow's central square. Where is the "filthy strip mall look?" :

    https://lp-cms-production.imgix.net/2023-11/GettyRF1000993660.jpg

    Krakow's shopping street Florianksa. Filthy strip mall?

    https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/gd_sight/19330.jpg

    Krakow has an ugly Galleria mall but it's on the edge of downtown, easily avoidable.

    Replies: @Derer

  123. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    I’ll personally benefit in any outcome.

    That is what the alliance of the resentful doesn’t get.

    The people that lose in this war are regular Russians and Ukrainians. Putin isn’t sticking it to the West by killing Ukrainians in Western gear.

    The last military aid package was mostly a massive order to the military industrial complex. That is the bill that Trump handed Johnson which masterfully split the MAGA opposition. Trump will sign another bill if needed.

    This war was a colossal mistake and everyone knows it. Even the Russians know this war is a waste as seen by the fact that Putin has to keep increasing the bonus amount to hire conscripts. He has clearly burned through his voluntary patriots. Historically militaries start having problems when a significant number of troops are only there for the money. You get fewer heroes and more deserters.

    Putin’s bootlickers may believe in the war but actual Russians want money up front.

    Putin doubles bonus to contractors
    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-decree-payment-doubled-ukraine-war/33057925.html

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "even the Russians know this war is a waste"

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/48148

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @John Johnson

  124. @Beckow
    @AP

    Oh, boy, your usual incoherent screed.

    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only "pretended"? Wow, are you insane? You spend a lot of time denying the obvious, maybe you really are a nutter...

    Three million commies couldn't be pretending. You don't seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90, the internal forces, the disputes, the culture...Or are you telling us that the Poles are a nation of habitual liars?

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look - I don't want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert - then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava, it's a completely different world. I am sorry, but you either don't know what you are talking about or you are too stupid to understand it.

    The 'merican "education" strikes again...:) Or it could be just you.

    Replies: @AP

    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only “pretended”?

    Obviously.

    Would someone refuse a promotion or cut oneself off from the possibility of getting a promotion, or rather pretend? Such was life. But since everyone knew it was a stupid but necessary game most people didn’t hold it against anyone for pretending.

    You don’t understand that, because your people were comically sincere in their Communism.

    It was because in Poland it was an unwanted pretense the whole time, that the system collapsed there right away after the threat of tanks was gone.

    Three million commies couldn’t be pretending. You don’t seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90

    I know the basic fact that Communism there was an imposed system that people paid lip service to despite not liking it, because they had to.

    You don’t even know that.

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look – I don’t want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert – then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava

    I’ve only been to the Warsaw airport so can’t say much about the city, it was mostly destroyed during the war and rebuilt under Commies so I would expect ugliness (everything they did was ugly), but there has been a building boom in the last 20 years so it probably has some impressive modern buildings.

    But I have really seen Krakow. It was incomparably cleaner and less shabby than Budapest, where I spent about a week in 2019. Even AnoninTN agreed with me that Budapest was rundown and dirty (only the castle district was up to the civilized standards of Austria or Poland). Maybe Budapest has improved since then.

    Wroclaw and Lublin are supposed to be beautiful. I plan to visit them next summer.

    Vienna was nice, the medieval downtown was great, the museums and palaces also, and the parts of downtown that were not medieval reminded me of central Moscow. If Bratislava is more like Austria or Poland it should be nice, if it is more like Hungary I would expect it to be shabby and rundown looking. Fortunately, the pictures I see of it suggest that it is more like Austria or Poland rather than like Hungary.

    I haven’t been to Prague. I imagine Austrian influence has been good for it and that therefore it is more like Vienna or Krakow than like Budapest.

    The ‘merican “education”

    Only the best in the world. How do your secondary schools and universities rank again?

    This is Krakow’s central square. Where is the “filthy strip mall look?” :

    Krakow’s shopping street Florianksa. Filthy strip mall?

    Krakow has an ugly Galleria mall but it’s on the edge of downtown, easily avoidable.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    Thanks for the pics.

  125. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin’s top British bootlicker
     
    Not sure saying Russia is winning is the way to go is you were a venal Westerner. There is likely more of a return for a pro Ukraine stance on social media for a YTer in Britain like him .

    Apart from their views going up if they highlight successes of the side their particular audience favours, I don't think it matters much what anyone says on social media in the West about how the war is going. It might if Washington was really on the cusp of full on aiding Ukraine to a complete victory, but the invasion was on Biden's watch and at not time has his administration given Ukraine even a fraction of what the US could (the American army have hundreds of Abrams tanks in storage). The Russian funds in the US are frozen but only the interest on them is being used to pay for aid to Ukraine.

    Arguably, Washington could enable Ukraine to decisively beat Russia, but not without producing a global geopolitical shift against America's interests in relation to future containment of China. Such a victory would clearly be of America over Russia (the navigation contour matching system is 100% American making it a US aimed attack whoever's long range missiles are being used to hit deep inside Russia). It is now getting on for three years later; the evidence is that Washington does not want Russia to be trounced in Ukraine.

    American strategist's clear preference is for Russia to more or less settle for their gains so far and quit fighting. That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine. I think there is a sense that Russia is starting to gain momentum, and there is no feasible way of stopping their advances without trying to really defeat them, which Washington seems to have ruled out. So Washington is is now in a quandary that the Pentagon doubtless warned them about 18months ago, This fellow seems quite objective on how things are going in Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2fjrJt3LU&t=52s

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC

    That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine.

    Is it really up to Washington? Based on its actions, Russia prefers to not “conquer all of Ukraine”.

  126. Putin cannot get in sight of victory and leave Ukraine substantially intact; that would recreate the mistake of 2015 in which the Minsk accords nullified Putin having gained the upper hand militarily, and enabled Kiev to continue getting close to Nato. To fail to press such a hard one advantage and present another Minsk style deal covering the whole of Ukraine as a victory after all the losses Russia has sustained? Completely impossible. No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Sean

    No he doesn’t. Slicing off a piece of Ukraine will probably lead to Ukies doing an antisemitic pogrom.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @AP
    @Sean

    Putin can do what he wants, at least as far as Russia's population is concerned, as long as he doesn't dare implement full mobilization of the general population. He can continue the war for another year or three by either paying or coercing losers to die (paying desperately poor people from Russia's margins, or using inmates or perhaps slave soldiers from North Korea), or he can make a peace that lets Ukraine join NATO. The Russian people won't protest in any consequential way either way. Latest polls show Russians will support Putin whatever he does (negotiates peace, continue war) although around 50% now wish the war had never started.

    If Putin has adequate control of those under him within the government (this is less clear, but presumably it's the one thing he is rather good at), then he can fully do what he wants, peace or war, except full mobilization.


    No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.
     
    This was his goal from the beginning. He miscalculated badly, thinking it would end in a few weeks, maybe a couple of months. Now he's chasing losses with the lives of Russian losers and of the (principal) Ukrainian victims of his misadventure. Russia's losers are dwindling (they payments keep increasing, indicating reduced supply of volunteers, and the latest ploy is to conscript not prison inmates but merely those accused of a crime) but so are the number of Ukrainian mobilized, so neither side is gaining much of an advantage and the stalemate continues.

    Replies: @Sean, @Wielgus

  127. Former CIA Analyst Tells USC Class the TRUTH ab Russia/Ukraine

  128. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Still, it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.
     
    52% (or whatever the anti-EU vote was before the western emigres were counted) means "pretty much united against the idea" in your world?

    The percentage within Moldova includes people in Transnistria (why is their vote "better" than that of Moldovans in Romania?), ethnic Russians, etc. Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    ” Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU.”

    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.
     
    Not true of course.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/2024-moldova-eu-referendum.svg

    The dark areas at the top are full of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians, at the bottom ethnic Gagauz. Most ethnic Moldovans voted in favor of EU. Moldova is about 18% non-Moldovan/non-Romanian and this was enough for a slight anti-EU vote within Moldova’s borders.

    Note that the capital, that voted pro-in EU in 5 of 6 voting districts, has more people than do those provinces.

    Your statement “Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.” is indeed an absurdity but par for the course for consumers of pro-Russian “information.”

    Replies: @Mikhail

  129. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    I'll personally benefit in any outcome.

    That is what the alliance of the resentful doesn't get.

    The people that lose in this war are regular Russians and Ukrainians. Putin isn't sticking it to the West by killing Ukrainians in Western gear.

    The last military aid package was mostly a massive order to the military industrial complex. That is the bill that Trump handed Johnson which masterfully split the MAGA opposition. Trump will sign another bill if needed.

    This war was a colossal mistake and everyone knows it. Even the Russians know this war is a waste as seen by the fact that Putin has to keep increasing the bonus amount to hire conscripts. He has clearly burned through his voluntary patriots. Historically militaries start having problems when a significant number of troops are only there for the money. You get fewer heroes and more deserters.

    Putin's bootlickers may believe in the war but actual Russians want money up front.

    Putin doubles bonus to contractors
    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-decree-payment-doubled-ukraine-war/33057925.html

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC

    “even the Russians know this war is a waste”

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/48148

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    Yes and women can continue to vote by drone.

    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

    Replies: @Derer

  130. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    " Majority of actual ethnic Moldovans prefer the EU."

    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.

    Replies: @AP

    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.

    Not true of course.

    The dark areas at the top are full of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians, at the bottom ethnic Gagauz. Most ethnic Moldovans voted in favor of EU. Moldova is about 18% non-Moldovan/non-Romanian and this was enough for a slight anti-EU vote within Moldova’s borders.

    Note that the capital, that voted pro-in EU in 5 of 6 voting districts, has more people than do those provinces.

    Your statement “Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.” is indeed an absurdity but par for the course for consumers of pro-Russian “information.”

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AP

    Gagauz and Slavs in Moldova aren't considered Moldovan citizens and hence not called Moldovans? If you believe that Pridnestrovie is part of Moldova, the majority of ethnic Moldovans there prefer Russia over the EU.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  131. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    I only knew of him through pop culture.

    At that time, my teacher was a lesbo-looking woman (though with a boyfriend) who seemed to have radical leftist (at least to me) politics.

    I may have been too sensitive, but I thought we had mutual antipathy. (And some other kid seemed to pick up on this.). Btw, she didn't like my paper on Robert E. Lee.

    Being a kid, I once did something really crazy. We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German. (I can't believe I ever did something this stupid). But it either didn't register (as I had planned), or she ignored it benignantly, thinking of the negative consequences it would bring me.

    The former still seems more likely to me.

    I think she left to teach inner city kids, at the end of the year.

    Replies: @S1

    We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German.

    Did your classroom’s finished map look anything like this one by chance? 😉

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S1

    I have seen that one.

    , @Wokechoke
    @S1

    Three Stooges did a funny.

    I like Iran He Ran You Ran.

  132. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "even the Russians know this war is a waste"

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/48148

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    So are you saying that Putin was duped into a Jewish project?

    Gosh and I thought he was the 5d chess master.

    Replies: @QCIC

  133. Hah !!

    “Putin gathers allies to show West’s pressure isn’t working”

    But critics point to differences within Brics. “Likeminded” is not a word you would use to describe the current membership.

    “In some ways it’s a good job for the West that China and India can never agree about anything. Because if those two were really serious, Brics would have enormous influence,” notes Jim O’Neill, former Chief Economist of Goldman Sachs.

    “China and India are doing their best to avoid wanting to attack each other a lot of the time.”

    Just down the page, from a day earlier:

    “India and China agree to de-escalate border tensions”

    India and China have agreed on patrolling arrangements to de-escalate tensions along a disputed Himalayan border which has seen deadly hand-to-hand clashes in recent years, India’s top diplomat has said.

    Vikram Misri said on Monday the two sides have agreed on “disengagement and resolution of issues in these [border] areas that had arisen in 2020”.

    He was referring to the Galwan Valley clashes – the first fatal confrontation between the two sides since 1975, in which both sides suffered casualties.

    Relations between the neighbours have been strained since then.

    “An agreement has been arrived at on patrolling arrangements along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the India-China border areas, leading to disengagement and a resolution of the issues that had arisen in these areas in 2020,” Mr Misri said.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Ally is another one of those words which has been FUBAR'd.

    Current usage is an ally is really a vassal as in the United States has France and Germany and Poland and &c.

    Russia has only got a couple of those. The proper neologism remains to be neo'd.

  134. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Left out Daniel Davis. Keep wet dreaming over a Kiev regime victory. Even the idiot Telegraph has had to drift from much of the BS it cranked out.

    I'll personally benefit in any outcome.

    That is what the alliance of the resentful doesn't get.

    The people that lose in this war are regular Russians and Ukrainians. Putin isn't sticking it to the West by killing Ukrainians in Western gear.

    The last military aid package was mostly a massive order to the military industrial complex. That is the bill that Trump handed Johnson which masterfully split the MAGA opposition. Trump will sign another bill if needed.

    This war was a colossal mistake and everyone knows it. Even the Russians know this war is a waste as seen by the fact that Putin has to keep increasing the bonus amount to hire conscripts. He has clearly burned through his voluntary patriots. Historically militaries start having problems when a significant number of troops are only there for the money. You get fewer heroes and more deserters.

    Putin's bootlickers may believe in the war but actual Russians want money up front.

    Putin doubles bonus to contractors
    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-decree-payment-doubled-ukraine-war/33057925.html

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @QCIC

    I wonder how the new lesbian US Army will get on?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/army-recruitment-lgbt-pride-b1846891.html


    The US Army has released a new animated recruitment campaign featuring five diverse soldiers and an LGBT+ family in the hopes of appealing to new young audiences.

    The campaign, which launched this week, is titled “The Calling” and features five animated short films detailing how a different person in each film decided to join the Army.

    One clip follows the story of corporal Emma Malonelord who was “raised by two supportive mothers” and goes on to operate the nation’s missile defence systems.

    “It begins in California, with a little girl raised by two moms,” Ms Malonelord says in the clip. “Although I had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, I also marched for equality.”

    “I like to think I’ve been defending freedom from a young age.”

    The other personal stories in the campaign feature stories from those from other underrepresented backgrounds including a Dominican immigrant, an African American woman, and a Haitian man.

    The tagline for the campaign reads: “See how five young Americans made the most important decision of their lives, for reasons as diverse as they are.”

    The Army has been making a sustained effort to appeal to more diverse groups in recent years, with LGBT+, ethnic minority groups, and women remaining severely underrepresented within its ranks, particularly in high-level positions.
     
    I always thought lesbians were well over-represented among female recruits.
    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    Practically none. They're basically preying on rural and minority men that have debt and few options.

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    The Russian military doesn't make extensive use of private NCOs like the West. It's very much a Soviet style military with enlisted officers.

    The contractors are needed for assault squads.

    The current Russian tactic is to funnel in small groups of 4-6. No evac or medics which makes the odds of surviving the war low. The idea is to minimize the losses if they are discovered by drones or artillery. They aren't using officers at the front like Western militaries. They trickle in these small groups and then try to back them with heavy weapons if they are able to hold a position. Very high casualties since the Ukrainians are willing to fall back and prefer to set traps.

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    Probably not much for anyone using the military for college cash. They already have to sit through liberal guilt courses. It's nothing new to them.

  135. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @John Johnson

    I wonder how the new lesbian US Army will get on?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/army-recruitment-lgbt-pride-b1846891.html

    The US Army has released a new animated recruitment campaign featuring five diverse soldiers and an LGBT+ family in the hopes of appealing to new young audiences.

    The campaign, which launched this week, is titled “The Calling” and features five animated short films detailing how a different person in each film decided to join the Army.

    One clip follows the story of corporal Emma Malonelord who was “raised by two supportive mothers” and goes on to operate the nation’s missile defence systems.

    “It begins in California, with a little girl raised by two moms,” Ms Malonelord says in the clip. “Although I had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, I also marched for equality.”

    “I like to think I’ve been defending freedom from a young age.”

    The other personal stories in the campaign feature stories from those from other underrepresented backgrounds including a Dominican immigrant, an African American woman, and a Haitian man.

    The tagline for the campaign reads: “See how five young Americans made the most important decision of their lives, for reasons as diverse as they are.”

    The Army has been making a sustained effort to appeal to more diverse groups in recent years, with LGBT+, ethnic minority groups, and women remaining severely underrepresented within its ranks, particularly in high-level positions.

    I always thought lesbians were well over-represented among female recruits.

  136. @S1
    @songbird


    We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German.
     
    Did your classroom's finished map look anything like this one by chance? ;-)

    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizK8ClgK6tKVVZReZ38sLP0trNg72__Lbh2fwqIcpceoL2CAAF4EUy33-77FAwHFdDQenU0XGy6OsnvN5_wwgOwh70eRlVCeI3OsVdebwp_p9Z3jpaMfuVeWefotoGx4BIZeIWP-NE6dk/s1227/StarvaniaImage.jpg

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    I have seen that one.

    • LOL: S1
  137. Ten embryos for six IQ points doesn’t seem very impressive to me.

    But I suppose it could still be very disruptive.
    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/10/us-startup-charging-couples-to-screen-embryos-for-iq/

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    This is nothing but ripoff artistry. Our great-grandpa farmers knew more about eugenics than 2024 Harvard Stanford. Progress is not a continuous upward curve.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  138. @YetAnotherAnon
    Hah !!

    "Putin gathers allies to show West's pressure isn’t working"

    But critics point to differences within Brics. "Likeminded" is not a word you would use to describe the current membership.

    "In some ways it’s a good job for the West that China and India can never agree about anything. Because if those two were really serious, Brics would have enormous influence," notes Jim O'Neill, former Chief Economist of Goldman Sachs.

    "China and India are doing their best to avoid wanting to attack each other a lot of the time."

     

    Just down the page, from a day earlier:

    "India and China agree to de-escalate border tensions"

    India and China have agreed on patrolling arrangements to de-escalate tensions along a disputed Himalayan border which has seen deadly hand-to-hand clashes in recent years, India’s top diplomat has said.

    Vikram Misri said on Monday the two sides have agreed on “disengagement and resolution of issues in these [border] areas that had arisen in 2020”.

    He was referring to the Galwan Valley clashes - the first fatal confrontation between the two sides since 1975, in which both sides suffered casualties.

    Relations between the neighbours have been strained since then.

    “An agreement has been arrived at on patrolling arrangements along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the India-China border areas, leading to disengagement and a resolution of the issues that had arisen in these areas in 2020,” Mr Misri said.
     

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Ally is another one of those words which has been FUBAR’d.

    Current usage is an ally is really a vassal as in the United States has France and Germany and Poland and &c.

    Russia has only got a couple of those. The proper neologism remains to be neo’d.

  139. @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    So are you saying that Putin was duped into a Jewish project?

    Gosh and I thought he was the 5d chess master.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I have always suspected this mess has an important Jewish angle. Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia. I think Russia's response was intrinsic to the post-Cold War realities, meaning they had to respond to Western provocations and this was expected by all parties. I think Western planners and schemers, Jewish or otherwise, did not expect Russia to move so slowly (calmly) or maintain her internal political stability for so long. At this point it somewhat looks like they can continue indefinitely, gradually getting stronger. In many respects they may be growing faster than without the SMO, so why do they want to end it? This means the West either needs to escalate or end the project. My current guess is they will try an escalation which will scare the hell out of sane people everywhere. Based on the pushback they will then end the project.

    I don't think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

  140. @songbird
    Ten embryos for six IQ points doesn't seem very impressive to me.

    But I suppose it could still be very disruptive.
    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/10/us-startup-charging-couples-to-screen-embryos-for-iq/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    This is nothing but ripoff artistry. Our great-grandpa farmers knew more about eugenics than 2024 Harvard Stanford. Progress is not a continuous upward curve.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @emil nikola richard

    This is nothing but ripoff artistry. Our great-grandpa farmers knew more about eugenics than 2024 Harvard Stanford. Progress is not a continuous upward curve.

    Havard professors in departments like biology are fully aware of eugenics. The difference is that they support the liberal position of dishonesty.

    They're just looking for genes that are known to be associated with intelligence.

  141. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @John Johnson

    I wonder what percentage of new Russian contract soldiers stay on to be career military?

    Practically none. They’re basically preying on rural and minority men that have debt and few options.

    To phrase it differently, I wonder if this bonus is also a means to accelerate the build up of NCOs or the equivalent enlisted experts?

    The Russian military doesn’t make extensive use of private NCOs like the West. It’s very much a Soviet style military with enlisted officers.

    The contractors are needed for assault squads.

    The current Russian tactic is to funnel in small groups of 4-6. No evac or medics which makes the odds of surviving the war low. The idea is to minimize the losses if they are discovered by drones or artillery. They aren’t using officers at the front like Western militaries. They trickle in these small groups and then try to back them with heavy weapons if they are able to hold a position. Very high casualties since the Ukrainians are willing to fall back and prefer to set traps.

    On the other hand, I wonder how badly the tranny-ization of the US military has thinned out the ranks of competent NCOs?

    Probably not much for anyone using the military for college cash. They already have to sit through liberal guilt courses. It’s nothing new to them.

  142. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "even the Russians know this war is a waste"

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/48148

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    Yes and women can continue to vote by drone.

    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson


    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.
     
    No! Only when NATO cowards will stop their pathological appetite for Ukraine. Do not they know that this is the Russian historical land that will not be hand over to criminals that killed 27 mil Russians with the same appetite.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  143. With apologies to Slovakia, America is the greatest country ever.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-13987191/Kelly-Stafford-Cleveland-Browns-fans-Deshaun-Watson-injury.html

    I read the story and it didn’t give her opinion of all the media guys who were laughing their ass off nor did she have a comment on Deshaun Watson’s training routine of having a smoking hot massage therapist massage his anus with baby oil.

  144. Did A123 have a nickname for Kamala?

    Skamala and Skankala (or -ula) are still on the table.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Negro lover. She hardly deserves anything special. She ought to pay me money for coining Willie Brown's skank ho which is overly generous.

  145. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Everybody knows war is a waste. Ukraine are sending young women to the front line to be killed. Pity.

    Yes and women can continue to vote by drone.

    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

    Replies: @Derer

    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

    No! Only when NATO cowards will stop their pathological appetite for Ukraine. Do not they know that this is the Russian historical land that will not be hand over to criminals that killed 27 mil Russians with the same appetite.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer


    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

     

    No! Only when NATO cowards will stop their pathological appetite for Ukraine.

    NATO doesn't want Ukrainian land. They are for letting Ukrainians pick their own leaders such as Zelensky who was not the NATO favorite.

    You do acknowledge that the Ukrainians do not want to be part of Russia?

    Do not they know that this is the Russian historical land

    Which period are you referring to exactly?

  146. @AP
    @Beckow


    The three million Polish commies for 40 years only “pretended”?
     
    Obviously.

    Would someone refuse a promotion or cut oneself off from the possibility of getting a promotion, or rather pretend? Such was life. But since everyone knew it was a stupid but necessary game most people didn't hold it against anyone for pretending.

    You don't understand that, because your people were comically sincere in their Communism.

    It was because in Poland it was an unwanted pretense the whole time, that the system collapsed there right away after the threat of tanks was gone.

    Three million commies couldn’t be pretending. You don’t seem to know even the most minimal things about Poland in 1945-90
     
    I know the basic fact that Communism there was an imposed system that people paid lip service to despite not liking it, because they had to.

    You don't even know that.

    Visit Krakow with its filthy strip-mall look – I don’t want to mention Warsaw, a bland post-modern architectural desert – then cross the border to go south, Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Bratislava
     
    I've only been to the Warsaw airport so can't say much about the city, it was mostly destroyed during the war and rebuilt under Commies so I would expect ugliness (everything they did was ugly), but there has been a building boom in the last 20 years so it probably has some impressive modern buildings.

    But I have really seen Krakow. It was incomparably cleaner and less shabby than Budapest, where I spent about a week in 2019. Even AnoninTN agreed with me that Budapest was rundown and dirty (only the castle district was up to the civilized standards of Austria or Poland). Maybe Budapest has improved since then.

    Wroclaw and Lublin are supposed to be beautiful. I plan to visit them next summer.

    Vienna was nice, the medieval downtown was great, the museums and palaces also, and the parts of downtown that were not medieval reminded me of central Moscow. If Bratislava is more like Austria or Poland it should be nice, if it is more like Hungary I would expect it to be shabby and rundown looking. Fortunately, the pictures I see of it suggest that it is more like Austria or Poland rather than like Hungary.

    I haven't been to Prague. I imagine Austrian influence has been good for it and that therefore it is more like Vienna or Krakow than like Budapest.

    The ‘merican “education”
     
    Only the best in the world. How do your secondary schools and universities rank again?

    This is Krakow's central square. Where is the "filthy strip mall look?" :

    https://lp-cms-production.imgix.net/2023-11/GettyRF1000993660.jpg

    Krakow's shopping street Florianksa. Filthy strip mall?

    https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/gd_sight/19330.jpg

    Krakow has an ugly Galleria mall but it's on the edge of downtown, easily avoidable.

    Replies: @Derer

    Thanks for the pics.

  147. @emil nikola richard
    @Mikel

    There is a philosophical fraud in discussing probability measures which are meaningful for N trials for events that will happen only one time if ever. When a group of scientists like epidemiologists or oncologists or economists do this it's still fraud.

    When you roll dice it's an a simple matter to pick them up and roll them again. And again.

    A fatal disease doesn't work like this, and every patient is unique in some way. I would rather have the information than not have it, but it doesn't mean that much. It doesn't mean anything like these fraudsters claim. It ain't anything like a Law of Nature.

    Replies: @Mikel

    I wouldn’t agree with everything you wrote here. There’s always much more than meets the eye in any data set and raw data can sometimes be misleading. That’s what statisticians and data analysts are for, a profession in high demand these days with all the amount of data generated in the digital age. However, it is true that things almost always are what they look like. That’s why nature gave us our pattern recognition abilities: evolution made them fit for purpose in most cases. Perhaps the morale of the story here would be to trust your senses: if you value safety over beautiful beaches, don’t move to a Caribbean nation.

  148. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I saw someone on X call her "Kakala.". Which I thought was very appropriate and descriptive.

    I am still debating whether that sounds better, but it was my inspiration, being near Halloween, to transform that into "Kakula" (like Dracula.)

    I like Emil's term (which has its own very appropriate descriptive value), but think we should each have our own.

    Briefly, I considered calling her Kakula Harris-lines, but I think that would have been a bridge too far. Kind of like when you tried to call Putin, Putleria or something. (hitler + malaria?)

    But while I like the term "Harris-lines.". Not many people know it outside of specialized fields, like archeology (which I have a small interest in) or radiology.

    I know these sort of name changes might seem like low-brow stuff to some, but imo we might as well get some fun out the decline of America.

    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.

    It’s looking increasingly unlikely that she’ll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she’d win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there’s no obvious reason why they wouldn’t correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They’re clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he’s ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn’t done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    Here is the latest from Atlas: (1)

     
    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/Atlas-Intel-National-Poll-Clip-1.jpg
     

    Yep. Trump AHEAD in the overall national race. Atlas was the most accurate firm in 2020, so there is every reason to believe this is plausible. The DNC machine tried to hide Harris, which didn't work. Then there were botched friendly interviews, which made things worse. Going on FOX was a last ditch desperation move.

    "Team Biden" has been doing an excellent job linking Border Czar Harris to Joe's record. And, they undercut her by saying nice things about DeSantis while Harris was going low with quackery on hurricane relief. A number of significant Democrats want her to fail so they can have a run in 2028 unburdened by what has been (e.g. Biden & Harris).

    Now that independents have seen Harris, they do not want her. Large numbers of Democrats are also jumping ship.
    ___

    The DNC fundamentally missed the boat. To gracefully displace Biden, they needed to run a competitive primary.

    I am still surprised that they managed to obtain a voluntary withdrawal from Joe. There was a major medical event, but the details have been suppressed. It looked like make-up covering bruising, so a fall seems likely. Was there something much scarier that the public does not know?

    Harris was the worst possible choice. She got the VP slot as an obviously unqualified DEI hire. However, without a primary, the DNC had no way to push out a female PoC for an alternate candidate. And, all of their other choices, such as Newsom, also came with liabilities.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/most-accurate-pollster-2020-has-blockbuster-polls-trump

    , @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    It’s looking increasingly unlikely that she’ll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    I would ignore the national polls. Even if she is ahead 4-5 points it really means nothing.

    It's the swing states that matter and she isn't connecting with blue collar workers.

    The Democrats are the biggest friggin idiots. These people don't understand anyone. Their leadership truly consists of isolated coastal Whites that are never around actual minorities.

    Trump could actually take Michigan.

    But don't worry she is going to bring out a rapper and is promising Black men that she will legalize pot.

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    It’s looking increasingly unlikely that she’ll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.
     
    Some guy on Twitter was making a good case that recent poll aggregates are skewed because hey have been flooded by dubious pro-Trump pollsters intent on presenting a false picture for the purpose of supporting Trump’s post-election claims that the vote was rigged, using as an example these poll results. Don’t know if he’s correct but seems to be so.



    https://twitter.com/swannmarcus89/status/1848440238336557550?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg
    , @songbird
    @Mikel


    which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala.
     
    There will probably come a day, when due to demographic changes, a shrill woman can win America. At one time, we could reliably say it was impossible, but so much of politics has become transactional.

    I don't believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala - maybe to lobby. But certainly not on a personal level. But both AP and the Somalis are counting on the idea that they will never have to interact with her on a day to day basis.

    Replies: @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

  149. Latest Trump burger stunts and Elon Musk sort of paying money just for the election participation may indicate that potential abstaining vote problem from former Trump voters (e.g. at least some part of figurative Anglin/Fuentes crowd, which has the most beef with Jews/Israel) is still real and they’re aware of it despite relatively good looking polling numbers.

  150. @songbird
    Did A123 have a nickname for Kamala?

    Skamala and Skankala (or -ula) are still on the table.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Negro lover. She hardly deserves anything special. She ought to pay me money for coining Willie Brown’s skank ho which is overly generous.

  151. This is GOLD

    [MORE]

    • Agree: A123
  152. @Mikel
    @songbird


    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.
     
    It's looking increasingly unlikely that she'll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she'd win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there's no obvious reason why they wouldn't correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They're clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he's ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn't done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @AP, @songbird

    Here is the latest from Atlas: (1)

      

    Yep. Trump AHEAD in the overall national race. Atlas was the most accurate firm in 2020, so there is every reason to believe this is plausible. The DNC machine tried to hide Harris, which didn’t work. Then there were botched friendly interviews, which made things worse. Going on FOX was a last ditch desperation move.

    “Team Biden” has been doing an excellent job linking Border Czar Harris to Joe’s record. And, they undercut her by saying nice things about DeSantis while Harris was going low with quackery on hurricane relief. A number of significant Democrats want her to fail so they can have a run in 2028 unburdened by what has been (e.g. Biden & Harris).

    Now that independents have seen Harris, they do not want her. Large numbers of Democrats are also jumping ship.
    ___

    The DNC fundamentally missed the boat. To gracefully displace Biden, they needed to run a competitive primary.

    I am still surprised that they managed to obtain a voluntary withdrawal from Joe. There was a major medical event, but the details have been suppressed. It looked like make-up covering bruising, so a fall seems likely. Was there something much scarier that the public does not know?

    Harris was the worst possible choice. She got the VP slot as an obviously unqualified DEI hire. However, without a primary, the DNC had no way to push out a female PoC for an alternate candidate. And, all of their other choices, such as Newsom, also came with liabilities.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/most-accurate-pollster-2020-has-blockbuster-polls-trump

  153. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Yet inside Moldova, nearly every district (I think 3 or 4 had majorities for Yes) voted No.
     
    Not true of course.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/2024-moldova-eu-referendum.svg

    The dark areas at the top are full of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians, at the bottom ethnic Gagauz. Most ethnic Moldovans voted in favor of EU. Moldova is about 18% non-Moldovan/non-Romanian and this was enough for a slight anti-EU vote within Moldova’s borders.

    Note that the capital, that voted pro-in EU in 5 of 6 voting districts, has more people than do those provinces.

    Your statement “Moldovans actually in Moldova were pretty much united against the idea.” is indeed an absurdity but par for the course for consumers of pro-Russian “information.”

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Gagauz and Slavs in Moldova aren’t considered Moldovan citizens and hence not called Moldovans? If you believe that Pridnestrovie is part of Moldova, the majority of ethnic Moldovans there prefer Russia over the EU.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mikhail

    How did the gypsies vote?

  154. EU-G7 Blues

    Russia has been isolated eh?

  155. @Mikhail
    @AP

    Gagauz and Slavs in Moldova aren't considered Moldovan citizens and hence not called Moldovans? If you believe that Pridnestrovie is part of Moldova, the majority of ethnic Moldovans there prefer Russia over the EU.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    How did the gypsies vote?

  156. @Sean
    Putin cannot get in sight of victory and leave Ukraine substantially intact; that would recreate the mistake of 2015 in which the Minsk accords nullified Putin having gained the upper hand militarily, and enabled Kiev to continue getting close to Nato. To fail to press such a hard one advantage and present another Minsk style deal covering the whole of Ukraine as a victory after all the losses Russia has sustained? Completely impossible. No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AP

    No he doesn’t. Slicing off a piece of Ukraine will probably lead to Ukies doing an antisemitic pogrom.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I would be happy with the entire Black Sea coast and a border with Transnistria. Maybe a drive along the south and a border with Hungary too.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  157. @S1
    @songbird


    We had this project to make up countries, and I named mine some not-too-subtle lesbian innuendo in German.
     
    Did your classroom's finished map look anything like this one by chance? ;-)

    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizK8ClgK6tKVVZReZ38sLP0trNg72__Lbh2fwqIcpceoL2CAAF4EUy33-77FAwHFdDQenU0XGy6OsnvN5_wwgOwh70eRlVCeI3OsVdebwp_p9Z3jpaMfuVeWefotoGx4BIZeIWP-NE6dk/s1227/StarvaniaImage.jpg

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Three Stooges did a funny.

    I like Iran He Ran You Ran.

    • Agree: S1
  158. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    This is nothing but ripoff artistry. Our great-grandpa farmers knew more about eugenics than 2024 Harvard Stanford. Progress is not a continuous upward curve.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    This is nothing but ripoff artistry. Our great-grandpa farmers knew more about eugenics than 2024 Harvard Stanford. Progress is not a continuous upward curve.

    Havard professors in departments like biology are fully aware of eugenics. The difference is that they support the liberal position of dishonesty.

    They’re just looking for genes that are known to be associated with intelligence.

  159. @Mikel
    @songbird


    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.
     
    It's looking increasingly unlikely that she'll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she'd win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there's no obvious reason why they wouldn't correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They're clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he's ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn't done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @AP, @songbird

    It’s looking increasingly unlikely that she’ll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    I would ignore the national polls. Even if she is ahead 4-5 points it really means nothing.

    It’s the swing states that matter and she isn’t connecting with blue collar workers.

    The Democrats are the biggest friggin idiots. These people don’t understand anyone. Their leadership truly consists of isolated coastal Whites that are never around actual minorities.

    Trump could actually take Michigan.

    But don’t worry she is going to bring out a rapper and is promising Black men that she will legalize pot.

  160. @Mikel
    @songbird


    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.
     
    It's looking increasingly unlikely that she'll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she'd win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there's no obvious reason why they wouldn't correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They're clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he's ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn't done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @AP, @songbird

    It’s looking increasingly unlikely that she’ll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Some guy on Twitter was making a good case that recent poll aggregates are skewed because hey have been flooded by dubious pro-Trump pollsters intent on presenting a false picture for the purpose of supporting Trump’s post-election claims that the vote was rigged, using as an example these poll results. Don’t know if he’s correct but seems to be so.

  161. @Wokechoke
    @Sean

    No he doesn’t. Slicing off a piece of Ukraine will probably lead to Ukies doing an antisemitic pogrom.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I would be happy with the entire Black Sea coast and a border with Transnistria. Maybe a drive along the south and a border with Hungary too.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If they don't take over Dniepro an inadverdant collateral blowing to smithereens of Zalinsky's boss's world's biggest jewish community center would be a decent token gesture ritual.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  162. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I would be happy with the entire Black Sea coast and a border with Transnistria. Maybe a drive along the south and a border with Hungary too.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    If they don’t take over Dniepro an inadverdant collateral blowing to smithereens of Zalinsky’s boss’s world’s biggest jewish community center would be a decent token gesture ritual.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @emil nikola richard

    Russia would be extremely foolish to (for no military advantage - how many divisions have the Unz commentariat?) gratuitously upset Jews worldwide. Indeed such an act should IMHO mean court-martial minimum.

    Putin is one of a few world leaders (Erdogan is another and Modi is looking to be a third) who have managed to neatly balance between a lot of powerful forces. It's good for Russia.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  163. @Mikel
    @songbird


    At this point the probability of her winning seems very low, so everyone should feel free to coin new terms.
     
    It's looking increasingly unlikely that she'll win. Even though poll aggregates continue showing an extremely close race, it is actually more likely that the winner, most likely Trump, will have a comfortable lead because biases in polls are correlated.

    Even when Kamala was leading by a 3-4 point margin at the national level, it was doubtful that she'd win. Biden was leading Trump in the same polls 4 years ago by 8 points and only won by 4. Besides, the electoral college currently gives the Republican candidate an advantage of about 2 percentage points.

    However, there is a small chance that polls have over-corrected for their past mistakes and are now biased in favor of Trump, which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala. Some of these companies are in the business of making reliable predictions, there's no obvious reason why they wouldn't correct known biases if they can. But all polls are showing increasingly favorable results for Trump after the post-debate low. They're clearly measuring a real phenomenon and, as election date nears, Trump is getting closer to Kamala than he's ever been after Biden dropped out. If he hasn't done it yet, AK should revise his prediction to avoid a repetition of the shock and disbelief fiasco.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @AP, @songbird

    which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala.

    There will probably come a day, when due to demographic changes, a shrill woman can win America. At one time, we could reliably say it was impossible, but so much of politics has become transactional.

    I don’t believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala – maybe to lobby. But certainly not on a personal level. But both AP and the Somalis are counting on the idea that they will never have to interact with her on a day to day basis.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    I don’t believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala – maybe to lobby.
     
    I'm sure AP would actually love to sit down with Kamala and lobby for more billions to Ukraine.

    Btw, everybody understands that the Irish (including of course the Irish-Americans, an essential part of the modern US) are the coolest ethnicity. No other European country gets its national holiday celebrated all over the world and the atmosphere of its pubs emulated in every civilized corner of the planet. I hope you didn't take AP's attacks too seriously. He knows he's doing something shameful by voting for the witch and needs to build some sort of defense but we all know the truth.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    , @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    She is not shrill. She is ding bat Edith convolved with hot lips Houlihan.

    https://townsquare.media/site/98/files/2013/06/Edith.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/12/ed/3d/12ed3de75c1ae268ee2a5dcb401c5640.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

  164. @songbird
    @Mikel


    which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala.
     
    There will probably come a day, when due to demographic changes, a shrill woman can win America. At one time, we could reliably say it was impossible, but so much of politics has become transactional.

    I don't believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala - maybe to lobby. But certainly not on a personal level. But both AP and the Somalis are counting on the idea that they will never have to interact with her on a day to day basis.

    Replies: @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    I don’t believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala – maybe to lobby.

    I’m sure AP would actually love to sit down with Kamala and lobby for more billions to Ukraine.

    Btw, everybody understands that the Irish (including of course the Irish-Americans, an essential part of the modern US) are the coolest ethnicity. No other European country gets its national holiday celebrated all over the world and the atmosphere of its pubs emulated in every civilized corner of the planet. I hope you didn’t take AP’s attacks too seriously. He knows he’s doing something shameful by voting for the witch and needs to build some sort of defense but we all know the truth.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mikel

    Thanks. AP and I enjoy trolling each other. (I hope.)

    @Emil
    The Reddit witches are supporting Kakula.
    https://twitter.com/reddit_lies/status/1848610235625197974

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    He knows he’s doing something shameful by voting for the witch
     
    No shame in my game. Phrase taken from a historically similar and even more essential part of the modern USA (than the Irish), whose cultural production is even more globally celebrated.

    Trump and more so his crew of psychopaths (RFK Jr) and grifters (Vivek, Vance, Musk et al) are even worse than Kamala, who is really just a lawyer of mediocre intelligence and no real political ideology, a good-enough vessel for mainstream democrats who seem to have been spooked more to the center (a good thing). Looks the Senate will almost certainly be Republican, which will further keep her administration either in the center or make sure she is totally ineffectual. She'll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked, won't play stupid games with massive tariffs (decoupling from China would be a good idea, but not slashing trade ties with our allies) and hopefully will be better for Ukraine than the soft Biden administration has been.

    I can live with that better than I can live with Trump turning the USA into an oligarchical-demagogic Banana Republic with his strange crew. Ironically, although he claims that he will save the USA from mass Latin American immigration, he himself seems to practice bad elements of Latin American style politics with his crude populism, nepotism, dumb protectionism worthy of Peronism, dumb personal greed (has A123 bought one of his watches yet?), empty promises. Saving us from Latin America by becoming more like worse parts of it at the core.

    I'd have taken Trump 2016-2020 when his administration still had plenty of normal people over Kamala, and I would have voted for Hailey, DeSantis, or Youngkin but this year the Democratic ticket seems to be less bad.

    Though I may be pleasantly surprised by Trump. Small chance, not enough to get me to consider voting for him, but not zero.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

  165. @songbird
    @Mikel


    which would mean a comfortable victory for Kamala.
     
    There will probably come a day, when due to demographic changes, a shrill woman can win America. At one time, we could reliably say it was impossible, but so much of politics has become transactional.

    I don't believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala - maybe to lobby. But certainly not on a personal level. But both AP and the Somalis are counting on the idea that they will never have to interact with her on a day to day basis.

    Replies: @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    She is not shrill. She is ding bat Edith convolved with hot lips Houlihan.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    To paraphrase a contemporary Hawkeye from the Avengers, "You and I remember Hot Lips very differently." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiI04xySbuc

  166. • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard

    What do you get out of being petty and insulting? Do you know that your pointless insults expose to everyone that you are pathetic?

    Is the fact that Trump is winning that frightening to you?

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gaf63poX0AAoxNW.jpg

    , @Mikel
    @emil nikola richard


    Donald the Fat does Rogan.
     
    Be careful. Some people look at Trump and don't see what you and I see. He has a slim, athletic body type in their eyes. One of them is hanging around here all the time.
    , @A123
    @emil nikola richard

    Be careful. Some people look at Harris and don’t see what you and I see.

    To #NeverMAGA zealots she has an agile mind. In they/them's eyes, she is an inspirational leader. One of them is hanging around here all the time.

    PEACE 😇

  167. @Mikel
    @songbird


    I don’t believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala – maybe to lobby.
     
    I'm sure AP would actually love to sit down with Kamala and lobby for more billions to Ukraine.

    Btw, everybody understands that the Irish (including of course the Irish-Americans, an essential part of the modern US) are the coolest ethnicity. No other European country gets its national holiday celebrated all over the world and the atmosphere of its pubs emulated in every civilized corner of the planet. I hope you didn't take AP's attacks too seriously. He knows he's doing something shameful by voting for the witch and needs to build some sort of defense but we all know the truth.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Thanks. AP and I enjoy trolling each other. (I hope.)

    @Emil
    The Reddit witches are supporting Kakula.

    [MORE]

    • Agree: AP
  168. @emil nikola richard
    Donald the Fat does Rogan. Friday. Allegedly.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13988643/kamala-harris-pressure-joe-rogan-donald-trump-interview.html

    Replies: @A123, @Mikel, @A123

    What do you get out of being petty and insulting? Do you know that your pointless insults expose to everyone that you are pathetic?

    Is the fact that Trump is winning that frightening to you?

    PEACE 😇

     

  169. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Yes, this is obviously a Jewish project. As people become exhausted by the carnage maybe the real drivers will be unveiled.

    So are you saying that Putin was duped into a Jewish project?

    Gosh and I thought he was the 5d chess master.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I have always suspected this mess has an important Jewish angle. Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia. I think Russia’s response was intrinsic to the post-Cold War realities, meaning they had to respond to Western provocations and this was expected by all parties. I think Western planners and schemers, Jewish or otherwise, did not expect Russia to move so slowly (calmly) or maintain her internal political stability for so long. At this point it somewhat looks like they can continue indefinitely, gradually getting stronger. In many respects they may be growing faster than without the SMO, so why do they want to end it? This means the West either needs to escalate or end the project. My current guess is they will try an escalation which will scare the hell out of sane people everywhere. Based on the pushback they will then end the project.

    I don’t think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    But what can Trump do? US artillery factories are backordered and working around the clock.

    There isn't a major package planned that Trump could veto. The ATACMS inventory was already handed over to Ukraine. We could send more Bradleys but neither party wants to send anything modern like AC-130s. They have plenty of F-16s and need more pilots. So sending F-18s wouldn't do much.

    At this point South Korea is in a better position to help them with military aid. They have a huge stockpile of 155 shells.

    Ukraine needs men and both parties are only interested in sending military aid. France should go ahead and send the foreign legion. Volunteers only for combat positions.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia.
     
    Hmmmm...

    • Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is an Azov neo-Nazi
    • Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite seeking Muslim votes

    • Putin is well known to be friendly with Russian Jews
    • Trump is supportive of indigenous Palestinian Jews

    If you want to put the pieces together, you must look a bit further. The European Empire is running the Great Muslim Replacement to harm European Jews & Christians. They also support Führer Zelensky, ordering their puppets Harris and Biden to send weapons.

    Reality looks bad for Kiev aggression. Trump's win will increase Judeo-Christian influence. Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, will no longer have a Europe controlled puppet occupying the White House. Look for the pro-Jewish administration to reduce (or eliminate) the support for anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, Kiev aggression against Russians, including Russian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Derer, @songbird

  170. @Derer
    @John Johnson


    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.
     
    No! Only when NATO cowards will stop their pathological appetite for Ukraine. Do not they know that this is the Russian historical land that will not be hand over to criminals that killed 27 mil Russians with the same appetite.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Would be a great time for Putin to end the killing by going home.

    No! Only when NATO cowards will stop their pathological appetite for Ukraine.

    NATO doesn’t want Ukrainian land. They are for letting Ukrainians pick their own leaders such as Zelensky who was not the NATO favorite.

    You do acknowledge that the Ukrainians do not want to be part of Russia?

    Do not they know that this is the Russian historical land

    Which period are you referring to exactly?

  171. @Sean
    Putin cannot get in sight of victory and leave Ukraine substantially intact; that would recreate the mistake of 2015 in which the Minsk accords nullified Putin having gained the upper hand militarily, and enabled Kiev to continue getting close to Nato. To fail to press such a hard one advantage and present another Minsk style deal covering the whole of Ukraine as a victory after all the losses Russia has sustained? Completely impossible. No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AP

    Putin can do what he wants, at least as far as Russia’s population is concerned, as long as he doesn’t dare implement full mobilization of the general population. He can continue the war for another year or three by either paying or coercing losers to die (paying desperately poor people from Russia’s margins, or using inmates or perhaps slave soldiers from North Korea), or he can make a peace that lets Ukraine join NATO. The Russian people won’t protest in any consequential way either way. Latest polls show Russians will support Putin whatever he does (negotiates peace, continue war) although around 50% now wish the war had never started.

    If Putin has adequate control of those under him within the government (this is less clear, but presumably it’s the one thing he is rather good at), then he can fully do what he wants, peace or war, except full mobilization.

    No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.

    This was his goal from the beginning. He miscalculated badly, thinking it would end in a few weeks, maybe a couple of months. Now he’s chasing losses with the lives of Russian losers and of the (principal) Ukrainian victims of his misadventure. Russia’s losers are dwindling (they payments keep increasing, indicating reduced supply of volunteers, and the latest ploy is to conscript not prison inmates but merely those accused of a crime) but so are the number of Ukrainian mobilized, so neither side is gaining much of an advantage and the stalemate continues.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Sean
    @AP

    The trouble is it's not just Putin because Nato could do anything too if it decided, such as let rump Ukraine in as a full member. Putin has to end the war forestalling that possibility. And the only way is subjugating all Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Wielgus
    @AP

    This "loser" talk is very American, and reminds me that Social Darwinism is widespread in the USA. But if we get into it, it seems to me that Ukrainian "winners" are the ones who have managed to hightail it to Warsaw or even Berlin and London. The "losers" are still in Ukraine, the real "losers" are fighting, not necessarily willingly.
    Or are only Russians "losers"?

    Replies: @songbird, @AP, @emil nikola richard

  172. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    She is not shrill. She is ding bat Edith convolved with hot lips Houlihan.

    https://townsquare.media/site/98/files/2013/06/Edith.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/12/ed/3d/12ed3de75c1ae268ee2a5dcb401c5640.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    To paraphrase a contemporary Hawkeye from the Avengers, “You and I remember Hot Lips very differently.”

    [MORE]

  173. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I have always suspected this mess has an important Jewish angle. Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia. I think Russia's response was intrinsic to the post-Cold War realities, meaning they had to respond to Western provocations and this was expected by all parties. I think Western planners and schemers, Jewish or otherwise, did not expect Russia to move so slowly (calmly) or maintain her internal political stability for so long. At this point it somewhat looks like they can continue indefinitely, gradually getting stronger. In many respects they may be growing faster than without the SMO, so why do they want to end it? This means the West either needs to escalate or end the project. My current guess is they will try an escalation which will scare the hell out of sane people everywhere. Based on the pushback they will then end the project.

    I don't think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    I don’t think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    But what can Trump do? US artillery factories are backordered and working around the clock.

    There isn’t a major package planned that Trump could veto. The ATACMS inventory was already handed over to Ukraine. We could send more Bradleys but neither party wants to send anything modern like AC-130s. They have plenty of F-16s and need more pilots. So sending F-18s wouldn’t do much.

    At this point South Korea is in a better position to help them with military aid. They have a huge stockpile of 155 shells.

    Ukraine needs men and both parties are only interested in sending military aid. France should go ahead and send the foreign legion. Volunteers only for combat positions.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the purpose of the combat is mostly to create internal pressure on the Russian political power structure. Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia. This is one reason they are going slow. The natural Neocon moves will be to cross more of Russia's red lines. They want something big enough to cause major anguish but not so big it leads to martial law. I imagine they are still drooling over the Kerch bridge but the symbolic power of that target may have faded over time.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

  174. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I have always suspected this mess has an important Jewish angle. Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia. I think Russia's response was intrinsic to the post-Cold War realities, meaning they had to respond to Western provocations and this was expected by all parties. I think Western planners and schemers, Jewish or otherwise, did not expect Russia to move so slowly (calmly) or maintain her internal political stability for so long. At this point it somewhat looks like they can continue indefinitely, gradually getting stronger. In many respects they may be growing faster than without the SMO, so why do they want to end it? This means the West either needs to escalate or end the project. My current guess is they will try an escalation which will scare the hell out of sane people everywhere. Based on the pushback they will then end the project.

    I don't think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia.

    Hmmmm…

    • Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is an Azov neo-Nazi
    • Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite seeking Muslim votes

    • Putin is well known to be friendly with Russian Jews
    • Trump is supportive of indigenous Palestinian Jews

    If you want to put the pieces together, you must look a bit further. The European Empire is running the Great Muslim Replacement to harm European Jews & Christians. They also support Führer Zelensky, ordering their puppets Harris and Biden to send weapons.

    Reality looks bad for Kiev aggression. Trump’s win will increase Judeo-Christian influence. Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, will no longer have a Europe controlled puppet occupying the White House. Look for the pro-Jewish administration to reduce (or eliminate) the support for anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, Kiev aggression against Russians, including Russian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    How are you going to cope when Rogan ambushes Donald the Fat with Diddy video of Ivanka screwing a donkey and apotheosizes his bald goo into poz heavens? It is going to be epic.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Derer
    @A123

    This is all fine, but you are ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel 24/7 through the media, banks, judicial. Then there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship (37 Democrats) that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees (check it out). No other minority has equal chance in Washington decision making, not even populous Latinos.

    Replies: @A123

    , @songbird
    @A123


    Führer Zelensky
     
    The H-man probably wouldn't have worn one of these English-print Tees.

    https://twitter.com/Zlatti_71/status/1849359109180608592
  175. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think the escalation will happen before the US election, so it may be left to Team Trump to be the bad guys.

    But what can Trump do? US artillery factories are backordered and working around the clock.

    There isn't a major package planned that Trump could veto. The ATACMS inventory was already handed over to Ukraine. We could send more Bradleys but neither party wants to send anything modern like AC-130s. They have plenty of F-16s and need more pilots. So sending F-18s wouldn't do much.

    At this point South Korea is in a better position to help them with military aid. They have a huge stockpile of 155 shells.

    Ukraine needs men and both parties are only interested in sending military aid. France should go ahead and send the foreign legion. Volunteers only for combat positions.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the purpose of the combat is mostly to create internal pressure on the Russian political power structure. Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia. This is one reason they are going slow. The natural Neocon moves will be to cross more of Russia’s red lines. They want something big enough to cause major anguish but not so big it leads to martial law. I imagine they are still drooling over the Kerch bridge but the symbolic power of that target may have faded over time.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.
     
    Using "easy" is a bit of an overstatement. However, you are correct that Russia could win. What happens next?

    Remember GW Bush in Iraq who -- Won the War, but Lost the Peace.

    Putin will avoid such a trap. Tying to assimilate Kiev and Lviv is a non-starter as strategy.

    The outlines of a final deal are not that hard to figure out. A smaller Ukraine will continue with limits on its offensive potential. No nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops. This will prevent Kiev from starting "Round 2" years down the line.

    Ideally, a friendlier government will realize that the Islamophile, anti-Semitic European Empire is not their friend. Instead of a Führer like Zelensky, the next government needs to place Ukraine First, not EU First.

    European imperial military aspirations need to be moved out. That will allow for a number of potential options. Once anti-Semitic neo-Nazi extremism is suppressed, there will be options for new Ukraine to re-engage constructively with the civilized community of nations.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.

    If it was easy then they would have taken Kharkiv by now. It's only 30 minutes from the border.

    Makes much more sense to take it in the summer.

    Once the rains come the Ukrainians can flood parts of the highway.

    The most likely explanation is that Russia is crawling at a slow pace because of limitations and the nature of the war. It isn't a political decision.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  176. @Mikel
    @songbird


    I don’t believe for a second that either AP or the Somalis would actually like to sit down with Kamala – maybe to lobby.
     
    I'm sure AP would actually love to sit down with Kamala and lobby for more billions to Ukraine.

    Btw, everybody understands that the Irish (including of course the Irish-Americans, an essential part of the modern US) are the coolest ethnicity. No other European country gets its national holiday celebrated all over the world and the atmosphere of its pubs emulated in every civilized corner of the planet. I hope you didn't take AP's attacks too seriously. He knows he's doing something shameful by voting for the witch and needs to build some sort of defense but we all know the truth.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    He knows he’s doing something shameful by voting for the witch

    No shame in my game. Phrase taken from a historically similar and even more essential part of the modern USA (than the Irish), whose cultural production is even more globally celebrated.

    Trump and more so his crew of psychopaths (RFK Jr) and grifters (Vivek, Vance, Musk et al) are even worse than Kamala, who is really just a lawyer of mediocre intelligence and no real political ideology, a good-enough vessel for mainstream democrats who seem to have been spooked more to the center (a good thing). Looks the Senate will almost certainly be Republican, which will further keep her administration either in the center or make sure she is totally ineffectual. She’ll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked, won’t play stupid games with massive tariffs (decoupling from China would be a good idea, but not slashing trade ties with our allies) and hopefully will be better for Ukraine than the soft Biden administration has been.

    I can live with that better than I can live with Trump turning the USA into an oligarchical-demagogic Banana Republic with his strange crew. Ironically, although he claims that he will save the USA from mass Latin American immigration, he himself seems to practice bad elements of Latin American style politics with his crude populism, nepotism, dumb protectionism worthy of Peronism, dumb personal greed (has A123 bought one of his watches yet?), empty promises. Saving us from Latin America by becoming more like worse parts of it at the core.

    I’d have taken Trump 2016-2020 when his administration still had plenty of normal people over Kamala, and I would have voted for Hailey, DeSantis, or Youngkin but this year the Democratic ticket seems to be less bad.

    Though I may be pleasantly surprised by Trump. Small chance, not enough to get me to consider voting for him, but not zero.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    She’ll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked,
     
    Unlikely, I think. She will probably stick to the original border deal:

    https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-border-security-bill-1943397

    What incentive would the Democrats have to make further concessions if the GOP in Congress had previously agreed to this deal? If Trump loses in two weeks' time, then the GOP might be more willing to agree to the previous deal in regards to this.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    To elaborate on my previous point here, I don't think that Kamala would want to reward the GOP for their obstructionism by giving them an even better border bill. If she will concede in regards to this, then this would pave the way for the GOP to do even more obstructionism on various issues so that they could get even better deals on these issues later on.

    Otherwise, though, I completely agree with you here.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  177. @A123
    @QCIC


    Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia.
     
    Hmmmm...

    • Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is an Azov neo-Nazi
    • Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite seeking Muslim votes

    • Putin is well known to be friendly with Russian Jews
    • Trump is supportive of indigenous Palestinian Jews

    If you want to put the pieces together, you must look a bit further. The European Empire is running the Great Muslim Replacement to harm European Jews & Christians. They also support Führer Zelensky, ordering their puppets Harris and Biden to send weapons.

    Reality looks bad for Kiev aggression. Trump's win will increase Judeo-Christian influence. Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, will no longer have a Europe controlled puppet occupying the White House. Look for the pro-Jewish administration to reduce (or eliminate) the support for anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, Kiev aggression against Russians, including Russian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Derer, @songbird

    How are you going to cope when Rogan ambushes Donald the Fat with Diddy video of Ivanka screwing a donkey and apotheosizes his bald goo into poz heavens? It is going to be epic.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    How are you going to cope when Rogan ambushes Donald
     
    Rogan does not support Mikel's precious Harris. Why would he "ambush" with obviously forged deepfake pictures? That would destroy Rogan's credibility & career. Only someone degenerate, depraved, utterly defeated, and immoral (like Mikel or Yahya Sinwar) would do that.

    • Will Rogan ask serious, unscripted questions? Yes.
    • Has Trump successfully handled a number of such interviews? Yes.

    RFKjr went on Rogan, and it was fine. You should be less histrionic, petty, paranoid, and pessimistic. Your negativity holds you back.

    PEACE 😇
  178. @emil nikola richard
    Donald the Fat does Rogan. Friday. Allegedly.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13988643/kamala-harris-pressure-joe-rogan-donald-trump-interview.html

    Replies: @A123, @Mikel, @A123

    Donald the Fat does Rogan.

    Be careful. Some people look at Trump and don’t see what you and I see. He has a slim, athletic body type in their eyes. One of them is hanging around here all the time.

    • LOL: A123
  179. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the purpose of the combat is mostly to create internal pressure on the Russian political power structure. Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia. This is one reason they are going slow. The natural Neocon moves will be to cross more of Russia's red lines. They want something big enough to cause major anguish but not so big it leads to martial law. I imagine they are still drooling over the Kerch bridge but the symbolic power of that target may have faded over time.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.

    Using “easy” is a bit of an overstatement. However, you are correct that Russia could win. What happens next?

    Remember GW Bush in Iraq who — Won the War, but Lost the Peace.

    Putin will avoid such a trap. Tying to assimilate Kiev and Lviv is a non-starter as strategy.

    The outlines of a final deal are not that hard to figure out. A smaller Ukraine will continue with limits on its offensive potential. No nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops. This will prevent Kiev from starting “Round 2” years down the line.

    Ideally, a friendlier government will realize that the Islamophile, anti-Semitic European Empire is not their friend. Instead of a Führer like Zelensky, the next government needs to place Ukraine First, not EU First.

    European imperial military aspirations need to be moved out. That will allow for a number of potential options. Once anti-Semitic neo-Nazi extremism is suppressed, there will be options for new Ukraine to re-engage constructively with the civilized community of nations.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    he next government needs to place Ukraine First, not EU First.

    Why not let the Ukrainian people decide if they want to be in the EU?

    Once anti-Semitic neo-Nazi extremism is suppressed, there will be options for new Ukraine to re-engage constructively with the civilized community of nations.

    A neo-nazi state with a Jewish president?

    Lukashenko has stated that there are no more Nazis. So you can check that off the list.

  180. @emil nikola richard
    Donald the Fat does Rogan. Friday. Allegedly.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13988643/kamala-harris-pressure-joe-rogan-donald-trump-interview.html

    Replies: @A123, @Mikel, @A123

    Be careful. Some people look at Harris and don’t see what you and I see.

    To #NeverMAGA zealots she has an agile mind. In they/them’s eyes, she is an inspirational leader. One of them is hanging around here all the time.

    PEACE 😇

  181. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    How are you going to cope when Rogan ambushes Donald the Fat with Diddy video of Ivanka screwing a donkey and apotheosizes his bald goo into poz heavens? It is going to be epic.

    Replies: @A123

    How are you going to cope when Rogan ambushes Donald

    Rogan does not support Mikel’s precious Harris. Why would he “ambush” with obviously forged deepfake pictures? That would destroy Rogan’s credibility & career. Only someone degenerate, depraved, utterly defeated, and immoral (like Mikel or Yahya Sinwar) would do that.

    • Will Rogan ask serious, unscripted questions? Yes.
    • Has Trump successfully handled a number of such interviews? Yes.

    RFKjr went on Rogan, and it was fine. You should be less histrionic, petty, paranoid, and pessimistic. Your negativity holds you back.

    PEACE 😇

  182. If you have ever doubted that oil is some kind of driver for wokeness…

    Kind of an old story, but still interesting, IMO.

    Fourteen days across the Atlantic, perched on a ship’s rudder

    Four Nigerian stowaways set out for Europe on the rudder of a tanker. They had no idea they were bound for Brazil, and a two-week ocean voyage that would nearly kill them.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-66450500

  183. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the purpose of the combat is mostly to create internal pressure on the Russian political power structure. Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia. This is one reason they are going slow. The natural Neocon moves will be to cross more of Russia's red lines. They want something big enough to cause major anguish but not so big it leads to martial law. I imagine they are still drooling over the Kerch bridge but the symbolic power of that target may have faded over time.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.

    If it was easy then they would have taken Kharkiv by now. It’s only 30 minutes from the border.

    Makes much more sense to take it in the summer.

    Once the rains come the Ukrainians can flood parts of the highway.

    The most likely explanation is that Russia is crawling at a slow pace because of limitations and the nature of the war. It isn’t a political decision.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    It’s an approximate break down along ethnic linguistic lines.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  184. @A123
    @QCIC


    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.
     
    Using "easy" is a bit of an overstatement. However, you are correct that Russia could win. What happens next?

    Remember GW Bush in Iraq who -- Won the War, but Lost the Peace.

    Putin will avoid such a trap. Tying to assimilate Kiev and Lviv is a non-starter as strategy.

    The outlines of a final deal are not that hard to figure out. A smaller Ukraine will continue with limits on its offensive potential. No nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops. This will prevent Kiev from starting "Round 2" years down the line.

    Ideally, a friendlier government will realize that the Islamophile, anti-Semitic European Empire is not their friend. Instead of a Führer like Zelensky, the next government needs to place Ukraine First, not EU First.

    European imperial military aspirations need to be moved out. That will allow for a number of potential options. Once anti-Semitic neo-Nazi extremism is suppressed, there will be options for new Ukraine to re-engage constructively with the civilized community of nations.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    he next government needs to place Ukraine First, not EU First.

    Why not let the Ukrainian people decide if they want to be in the EU?

    Once anti-Semitic neo-Nazi extremism is suppressed, there will be options for new Ukraine to re-engage constructively with the civilized community of nations.

    A neo-nazi state with a Jewish president?

    Lukashenko has stated that there are no more Nazis. So you can check that off the list.

  185. @A123
    @QCIC


    Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia.
     
    Hmmmm...

    • Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is an Azov neo-Nazi
    • Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite seeking Muslim votes

    • Putin is well known to be friendly with Russian Jews
    • Trump is supportive of indigenous Palestinian Jews

    If you want to put the pieces together, you must look a bit further. The European Empire is running the Great Muslim Replacement to harm European Jews & Christians. They also support Führer Zelensky, ordering their puppets Harris and Biden to send weapons.

    Reality looks bad for Kiev aggression. Trump's win will increase Judeo-Christian influence. Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, will no longer have a Europe controlled puppet occupying the White House. Look for the pro-Jewish administration to reduce (or eliminate) the support for anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, Kiev aggression against Russians, including Russian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Derer, @songbird

    This is all fine, but you are ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel 24/7 through the media, banks, judicial. Then there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship (37 Democrats) that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees (check it out). No other minority has equal chance in Washington decision making, not even populous Latinos.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Derer


    there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship
     
    Off the top of my head, I know that neither Bernie Sanders nor Chuck Schumer are dual citizens. So, your statement is clearly wrong.

    that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees
     
    House and Senate positions are handed out mostly based on seniority, though fund raising prowess also helps. The assignments are proportionate based on these nonreligious characteristics.

    ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel
    ...
    37 Democrats
     
    So there are 37 Jewish Democrats, yet their party is turning on Palestinian Jews to court Muslim votes. Hmmmmm.... It seems like that these 37 individuals have little power if they cannot stop Harris/Biden sending billions of dollars to Iran that were used to target Palestinian Jews. How many of these Democrats:

    • Are actually sincere practitioners of Judaism?
    • Hate American Jews and Christians so much they are for open borders?

    These "Congressional Democrat Jews" much more closely resemble anti-Semite George IslamoSoros. Another enemy of the Jews, much like Führer Zelensky.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  186. Has anybody here (almost–there is one regular poster who is too stupid to read or reply to and is the only person on unz.com I have ever tagged ignore) read Svetlana Alexievich: Secondhand Time: The Last of the Soviets?

  187. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Russia can easily defeat Ukraine but that process in and of itself will create political pressure on Russia.

    If it was easy then they would have taken Kharkiv by now. It's only 30 minutes from the border.

    Makes much more sense to take it in the summer.

    Once the rains come the Ukrainians can flood parts of the highway.

    The most likely explanation is that Russia is crawling at a slow pace because of limitations and the nature of the war. It isn't a political decision.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    It’s an approximate break down along ethnic linguistic lines.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Not sure what you are saying. Elaborate please.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  188. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    It’s an approximate break down along ethnic linguistic lines.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Not sure what you are saying. Elaborate please.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    The Balts better watch out. They will have to do mass deportations or fracture just like Ukraine. Lol.

  189. Right now, there is apparently a federal case in Boston where the family of a high school student is suing the teacher and school for giving him a bad grade for using AI to write his history paper.

    Have only read one account, so I find it confusing. But seems to me much hinges on the politics of the case.

    If the kid picked the topic for his essay about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s impact on civil rights, my sympathies are against him. If he didn’t, then my sympathies are with him.

    Guessing it was the latter case, as I recall being forced to write similar stuff. Youth shouldn’t be misspent being forced to write woke essays. Nobody really cares about plagiarism in such cases, it is about repeating the rhetoric. Such exercises can and should be outsourced to chatbots.

    https://www.boston.com/news/schools/2024/10/18/hingham-parents-sue-son-penalized-using-ai-research-project/

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    If you were using google in 2015 to build the bibliography for a research paper you had an AI assisted research paper. In 2024 if you use ChatGPT to compose the sentences in your research paper this is a difference only in degree and not in kind so I don't see an obvious big deal here. Do these people who use ChatGPT expect to get high marks? If you can't make better sentences than a bot I don't think you should be expecting to get high marks. There are apparently now classes at Yale and Harvard where the average student gets an A.

    Maybe the average student now is really that excellent but my a priori on that being factual is a low number. Like a very low number.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    A big chunk of any essay or dissertation consists of re-phrasing papers or book extracts that someone else has written.

  190. @songbird
    Right now, there is apparently a federal case in Boston where the family of a high school student is suing the teacher and school for giving him a bad grade for using AI to write his history paper.

    Have only read one account, so I find it confusing. But seems to me much hinges on the politics of the case.

    If the kid picked the topic for his essay about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's impact on civil rights, my sympathies are against him. If he didn't, then my sympathies are with him.

    Guessing it was the latter case, as I recall being forced to write similar stuff. Youth shouldn't be misspent being forced to write woke essays. Nobody really cares about plagiarism in such cases, it is about repeating the rhetoric. Such exercises can and should be outsourced to chatbots.

    https://www.boston.com/news/schools/2024/10/18/hingham-parents-sue-son-penalized-using-ai-research-project/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @YetAnotherAnon

    If you were using google in 2015 to build the bibliography for a research paper you had an AI assisted research paper. In 2024 if you use ChatGPT to compose the sentences in your research paper this is a difference only in degree and not in kind so I don’t see an obvious big deal here. Do these people who use ChatGPT expect to get high marks? If you can’t make better sentences than a bot I don’t think you should be expecting to get high marks. There are apparently now classes at Yale and Harvard where the average student gets an A.

    Maybe the average student now is really that excellent but my a priori on that being factual is a low number. Like a very low number.

    • Agree: songbird
  191. @AP
    @Mikel


    He knows he’s doing something shameful by voting for the witch
     
    No shame in my game. Phrase taken from a historically similar and even more essential part of the modern USA (than the Irish), whose cultural production is even more globally celebrated.

    Trump and more so his crew of psychopaths (RFK Jr) and grifters (Vivek, Vance, Musk et al) are even worse than Kamala, who is really just a lawyer of mediocre intelligence and no real political ideology, a good-enough vessel for mainstream democrats who seem to have been spooked more to the center (a good thing). Looks the Senate will almost certainly be Republican, which will further keep her administration either in the center or make sure she is totally ineffectual. She'll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked, won't play stupid games with massive tariffs (decoupling from China would be a good idea, but not slashing trade ties with our allies) and hopefully will be better for Ukraine than the soft Biden administration has been.

    I can live with that better than I can live with Trump turning the USA into an oligarchical-demagogic Banana Republic with his strange crew. Ironically, although he claims that he will save the USA from mass Latin American immigration, he himself seems to practice bad elements of Latin American style politics with his crude populism, nepotism, dumb protectionism worthy of Peronism, dumb personal greed (has A123 bought one of his watches yet?), empty promises. Saving us from Latin America by becoming more like worse parts of it at the core.

    I'd have taken Trump 2016-2020 when his administration still had plenty of normal people over Kamala, and I would have voted for Hailey, DeSantis, or Youngkin but this year the Democratic ticket seems to be less bad.

    Though I may be pleasantly surprised by Trump. Small chance, not enough to get me to consider voting for him, but not zero.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    She’ll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked,

    Unlikely, I think. She will probably stick to the original border deal:

    https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-border-security-bill-1943397

    What incentive would the Democrats have to make further concessions if the GOP in Congress had previously agreed to this deal? If Trump loses in two weeks’ time, then the GOP might be more willing to agree to the previous deal in regards to this.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    She has been moving to the center to try to win the election. Her plan is like the previous compromise but with smaller numbers allowed before the shut down is triggered.

    Also, the Senate will likely be Republican this time so to get a deal she would have to make her plan tougher than the previous one was.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  192. @AP
    @Mikel


    He knows he’s doing something shameful by voting for the witch
     
    No shame in my game. Phrase taken from a historically similar and even more essential part of the modern USA (than the Irish), whose cultural production is even more globally celebrated.

    Trump and more so his crew of psychopaths (RFK Jr) and grifters (Vivek, Vance, Musk et al) are even worse than Kamala, who is really just a lawyer of mediocre intelligence and no real political ideology, a good-enough vessel for mainstream democrats who seem to have been spooked more to the center (a good thing). Looks the Senate will almost certainly be Republican, which will further keep her administration either in the center or make sure she is totally ineffectual. She'll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked, won't play stupid games with massive tariffs (decoupling from China would be a good idea, but not slashing trade ties with our allies) and hopefully will be better for Ukraine than the soft Biden administration has been.

    I can live with that better than I can live with Trump turning the USA into an oligarchical-demagogic Banana Republic with his strange crew. Ironically, although he claims that he will save the USA from mass Latin American immigration, he himself seems to practice bad elements of Latin American style politics with his crude populism, nepotism, dumb protectionism worthy of Peronism, dumb personal greed (has A123 bought one of his watches yet?), empty promises. Saving us from Latin America by becoming more like worse parts of it at the core.

    I'd have taken Trump 2016-2020 when his administration still had plenty of normal people over Kamala, and I would have voted for Hailey, DeSantis, or Youngkin but this year the Democratic ticket seems to be less bad.

    Though I may be pleasantly surprised by Trump. Small chance, not enough to get me to consider voting for him, but not zero.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on my previous point here, I don’t think that Kamala would want to reward the GOP for their obstructionism by giving them an even better border bill. If she will concede in regards to this, then this would pave the way for the GOP to do even more obstructionism on various issues so that they could get even better deals on these issues later on.

    Otherwise, though, I completely agree with you here.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on my previous point here, I don’t think that Kamala would want to reward the GOP for their obstructionism by giving them an even better border bill.

    I don't see it happening unless they take the House and Senate.

    In which case I think they could pressure her into signing something or at least the bipartisan bill they had before Trump blew it up.

    One problem with Trump winning is that there will be obstructionist Democrats. They won't want to give him anything and in his first term he proved that his border talk was mostly rhetoric. Half of Guatemala is going to come here and I don't have any faith that Trump or Kamala will do anything. Probably a million cat chasers as well. Central America and Haiti put their best hope in sending out immigrant swarms and then getting remittances in return. And in fall fairness it makes economic sense for them. The White man has chosen fantasy over reality and neighboring countries might as well take their slice of the pie.

  193. The likes of Petraeus, Hodges, Keane, Austin, Blinken and anonymous pro-Kiev regime trolls debunked again in slam dunk fashion:

  194. @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If they don't take over Dniepro an inadverdant collateral blowing to smithereens of Zalinsky's boss's world's biggest jewish community center would be a decent token gesture ritual.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Russia would be extremely foolish to (for no military advantage – how many divisions have the Unz commentariat?) gratuitously upset Jews worldwide. Indeed such an act should IMHO mean court-martial minimum.

    Putin is one of a few world leaders (Erdogan is another and Modi is looking to be a third) who have managed to neatly balance between a lot of powerful forces. It’s good for Russia.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Indeed Erdogan is the absolute master of highwire. He has free access to the EU market for Turkish industry, he's a NATO member - and at the same time Russis is building his nuclear plants, and he's attending BRICS today.

    https://ecfr.eu/article/building-brics-what-erdogans-geopolitical-gamble-could-mean-for-the-west/


    It is evident that Turkey wants to retain its Western anchor; but also the flexibility to have a foot in each camp. Much like his illiberal counterparts in Serbia, Hungary, and the Gulf Arab monarchies, Erdogan views geopolitics as a constant hedging among great powers. He is skilfully playing off Russia against the West, using both the advantages of NATO membership and his personal rapport with Vladimir Putin to expand Turkey’s economic gains. And Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has allowed Ankara to take this to a new level: Turkey is doubling down on its trade and energy relationship with Moscow while also supporting Ukraine through arms sales, defence industry partnerships – and restricting the Russian navy’s access to the Black Sea.
     

    Replies: @Derer

  195. @songbird
    Right now, there is apparently a federal case in Boston where the family of a high school student is suing the teacher and school for giving him a bad grade for using AI to write his history paper.

    Have only read one account, so I find it confusing. But seems to me much hinges on the politics of the case.

    If the kid picked the topic for his essay about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's impact on civil rights, my sympathies are against him. If he didn't, then my sympathies are with him.

    Guessing it was the latter case, as I recall being forced to write similar stuff. Youth shouldn't be misspent being forced to write woke essays. Nobody really cares about plagiarism in such cases, it is about repeating the rhetoric. Such exercises can and should be outsourced to chatbots.

    https://www.boston.com/news/schools/2024/10/18/hingham-parents-sue-son-penalized-using-ai-research-project/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @YetAnotherAnon

    A big chunk of any essay or dissertation consists of re-phrasing papers or book extracts that someone else has written.

    • Agree: songbird
  196. @YetAnotherAnon
    @emil nikola richard

    Russia would be extremely foolish to (for no military advantage - how many divisions have the Unz commentariat?) gratuitously upset Jews worldwide. Indeed such an act should IMHO mean court-martial minimum.

    Putin is one of a few world leaders (Erdogan is another and Modi is looking to be a third) who have managed to neatly balance between a lot of powerful forces. It's good for Russia.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Indeed Erdogan is the absolute master of highwire. He has free access to the EU market for Turkish industry, he’s a NATO member – and at the same time Russis is building his nuclear plants, and he’s attending BRICS today.

    https://ecfr.eu/article/building-brics-what-erdogans-geopolitical-gamble-could-mean-for-the-west/

    It is evident that Turkey wants to retain its Western anchor; but also the flexibility to have a foot in each camp. Much like his illiberal counterparts in Serbia, Hungary, and the Gulf Arab monarchies, Erdogan views geopolitics as a constant hedging among great powers. He is skilfully playing off Russia against the West, using both the advantages of NATO membership and his personal rapport with Vladimir Putin to expand Turkey’s economic gains. And Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has allowed Ankara to take this to a new level: Turkey is doubling down on its trade and energy relationship with Moscow while also supporting Ukraine through arms sales, defence industry partnerships – and restricting the Russian navy’s access to the Black Sea.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Despite your praise, Turkey's economic position is dismal. They are in NATO only for opportunistic reasons and for the US begging them to stay, despite trading military hardware with Russia (unthinkable for a NATO member). Turkey mostly refuses to participate in any anti Islam campaign, ironically that is high priority for Trump agenda - will see.

  197. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin can do what he wants, at least as far as Russia's population is concerned, as long as he doesn't dare implement full mobilization of the general population. He can continue the war for another year or three by either paying or coercing losers to die (paying desperately poor people from Russia's margins, or using inmates or perhaps slave soldiers from North Korea), or he can make a peace that lets Ukraine join NATO. The Russian people won't protest in any consequential way either way. Latest polls show Russians will support Putin whatever he does (negotiates peace, continue war) although around 50% now wish the war had never started.

    If Putin has adequate control of those under him within the government (this is less clear, but presumably it's the one thing he is rather good at), then he can fully do what he wants, peace or war, except full mobilization.


    No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.
     
    This was his goal from the beginning. He miscalculated badly, thinking it would end in a few weeks, maybe a couple of months. Now he's chasing losses with the lives of Russian losers and of the (principal) Ukrainian victims of his misadventure. Russia's losers are dwindling (they payments keep increasing, indicating reduced supply of volunteers, and the latest ploy is to conscript not prison inmates but merely those accused of a crime) but so are the number of Ukrainian mobilized, so neither side is gaining much of an advantage and the stalemate continues.

    Replies: @Sean, @Wielgus

    The trouble is it’s not just Putin because Nato could do anything too if it decided, such as let rump Ukraine in as a full member. Putin has to end the war forestalling that possibility. And the only way is subjugating all Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean

    You are correct that the only way to permanently prevent Ukraine from joining NATO would be to conquer and subjugate it, or at least those parts to be kept out.

    But Putin can’t even take Kharkiv, how will he take the rest? Short of mass full mobilisation with out any resistance by Russian people (impossible, or it would have even done by now) or mass nuclear holocaust, it won’t happen. So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate. He would have to settle for permanently keeping NATO out of Crimea or Donbas.

    Replies: @Sean

  198. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Not sure what you are saying. Elaborate please.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The Balts better watch out. They will have to do mass deportations or fracture just like Ukraine. Lol.

  199. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    She’ll probably give us a better border deal than the compromise that Trump tanked,
     
    Unlikely, I think. She will probably stick to the original border deal:

    https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-border-security-bill-1943397

    What incentive would the Democrats have to make further concessions if the GOP in Congress had previously agreed to this deal? If Trump loses in two weeks' time, then the GOP might be more willing to agree to the previous deal in regards to this.

    Replies: @AP

    She has been moving to the center to try to win the election. Her plan is like the previous compromise but with smaller numbers allowed before the shut down is triggered.

    Also, the Senate will likely be Republican this time so to get a deal she would have to make her plan tougher than the previous one was.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Do you have a link to her plan, please?

    Replies: @AP

  200. @Sean
    @AP

    The trouble is it's not just Putin because Nato could do anything too if it decided, such as let rump Ukraine in as a full member. Putin has to end the war forestalling that possibility. And the only way is subjugating all Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

    You are correct that the only way to permanently prevent Ukraine from joining NATO would be to conquer and subjugate it, or at least those parts to be kept out.

    But Putin can’t even take Kharkiv, how will he take the rest? Short of mass full mobilisation with out any resistance by Russian people (impossible, or it would have even done by now) or mass nuclear holocaust, it won’t happen. So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate. He would have to settle for permanently keeping NATO out of Crimea or Donbas.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AP


    So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate.
     
    How would a stalemated war, which would keep Ukraine out of Nato for the duration, make him want to stop fighting? In the light of Putin's objective of bringing Ukraine into the Russian orbit, continuing a futile war would be preferable to a peace agreement that freed Ukraine to join Nato.

    Replies: @AP

  201. Inspired by recent Trump adventures in burger making place – Big Mac world economy ratings 2023, Baltics among TOP 25 nowdays:

  202. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin can do what he wants, at least as far as Russia's population is concerned, as long as he doesn't dare implement full mobilization of the general population. He can continue the war for another year or three by either paying or coercing losers to die (paying desperately poor people from Russia's margins, or using inmates or perhaps slave soldiers from North Korea), or he can make a peace that lets Ukraine join NATO. The Russian people won't protest in any consequential way either way. Latest polls show Russians will support Putin whatever he does (negotiates peace, continue war) although around 50% now wish the war had never started.

    If Putin has adequate control of those under him within the government (this is less clear, but presumably it's the one thing he is rather good at), then he can fully do what he wants, peace or war, except full mobilization.


    No, Putin has to conquer Ukraine and ensure the installation of a government friendly to Moscow.
     
    This was his goal from the beginning. He miscalculated badly, thinking it would end in a few weeks, maybe a couple of months. Now he's chasing losses with the lives of Russian losers and of the (principal) Ukrainian victims of his misadventure. Russia's losers are dwindling (they payments keep increasing, indicating reduced supply of volunteers, and the latest ploy is to conscript not prison inmates but merely those accused of a crime) but so are the number of Ukrainian mobilized, so neither side is gaining much of an advantage and the stalemate continues.

    Replies: @Sean, @Wielgus

    This “loser” talk is very American, and reminds me that Social Darwinism is widespread in the USA. But if we get into it, it seems to me that Ukrainian “winners” are the ones who have managed to hightail it to Warsaw or even Berlin and London. The “losers” are still in Ukraine, the real “losers” are fighting, not necessarily willingly.
    Or are only Russians “losers”?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Wielgus

    AP is very class-conscious. It plays heavily into his identity of being descended from EE aristocrats and may account for some of his general anti-nationalist sentiment. (Not anti-Galician!). As well as some of his resentment for Anglos, who probably used to have the most class prestige.

    I suspect that IRL he really uses the term "upper-middle class" to describe his own economic niche.

    , @AP
    @Wielgus

    In Ukraine a lot of normal people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect. So Ukraine is not losing only “losers.” For example, I know of one guy, a university professor in Western Europe who returned to Ukraine to fight (and was killed, leaving behind 2 kids). One hears about the occasional Olympic athlete, or businessman, or well known actor, dying at the front for Ukraine. *

    But in Russia the people fighting are almost all those desperate enough to risk getting killed for a few thousand dollars in some Ukrainian field (typically, very poor people from the provinces), and prison inmates. Societal losers whose losses are acceptable by other Russians. Lots of them are getting killed.

    Regular people in Russia do not want to die in some field in Ukraine and Putin does not dare to force them to do that. If he could get away with it, he would have. He might have won the war if he did that. Bur he is constrained. This btw largely eliminates Russia’s overall population advantage. Russia may have 4 times more people than Ukraine, but its helpless and desperate loser population is not 4 times larger than Ukraine’s population.

    In amoral purely Darwinist terms this is worse for Ukraine than for Russia. Russia is culling its poor and its criminals while Ukraine is losing some of its best people. Though Ukraine seems to be so far less likely to send youths into the war than Russia is.

    A lot of the Ukrainian guys in the West seem to be eastern Ukrainians who are less patriotic. When I was in Poland in 2022 I had a few Ukrainian Uber drivers. They were all from places like Zaporizhia. One of them told me that their colleagues from Kiev or Lviv had mostly returned to Ukraine after the war began, in order to defend their country. Only Easterners were left, among men. They had come to hate Russia too, but weren’t motivated enough to fight despite their people being killed to a much greater extent then people from places like Lviv (at the time I was there, Kiev was still under threat though).

    * Though among Ukrainian forces the conscripts, often eastern villagers, seem to have higher casualty rates than volunteers. Volunteers seem to be better equipped and have had more training. They are often brighter and more resourceful, which is associated with longevity on the battlefield.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @emil nikola richard
    @Wielgus

    Loser is the ultimate woman insult. Women's pain at having their eye blackened or their jaw broken or their teeth punched out or their limbs broken is nothing in comparison to the humiliation of the family, friends, acquaintances et al seeing the proof that they have married a loser. None of these people who go on about wife beaters seem to know any wife beaters or beaten wives. The television programming is no more accurate on this subject than any other. Women would generally rather have the world know their son is a serial child rapist than that their husband is a loser.

    Replies: @AP

  203. @Derer
    @A123

    This is all fine, but you are ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel 24/7 through the media, banks, judicial. Then there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship (37 Democrats) that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees (check it out). No other minority has equal chance in Washington decision making, not even populous Latinos.

    Replies: @A123

    there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship

    Off the top of my head, I know that neither Bernie Sanders nor Chuck Schumer are dual citizens. So, your statement is clearly wrong.

    that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees

    House and Senate positions are handed out mostly based on seniority, though fund raising prowess also helps. The assignments are proportionate based on these nonreligious characteristics.

    ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel

    37 Democrats

    So there are 37 Jewish Democrats, yet their party is turning on Palestinian Jews to court Muslim votes. Hmmmmm…. It seems like that these 37 individuals have little power if they cannot stop Harris/Biden sending billions of dollars to Iran that were used to target Palestinian Jews. How many of these Democrats:

    • Are actually sincere practitioners of Judaism?
    • Hate American Jews and Christians so much they are for open borders?

    These “Congressional Democrat Jews” much more closely resemble anti-Semite George IslamoSoros. Another enemy of the Jews, much like Führer Zelensky.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    much like Führer Zelensky
     
    Ze is more like ein Busführer.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  204. If I follow, Europa Clipper is the biggest and heaviest space probe ever launched. (Though a lot of the mass is fuel and giant solar panels.)

    [MORE]

    And the third to have injection into Jovian orbit as its goal. ESA JUICE will be the fourth (to arrive), and it is also big.

    Now, I know there is a logic behind it. Juno was also solar-powered. And have heard it is cheaper than an RTG and saves precious fisionables for missions where they are actually needed.

    And I know it is ambitious in a lot of ways. Like the idea of having this highly elliptical “clipper” coarse around Europa to try to avoid a lot of the radiation.

    But I really am tempted to call it a woke probe. Is it such a crazy idea that Green ideology extends into the space domain? And it is also quite expensive, when we could be sampling the atmosphere of Venus and looking for organics, for like <1/100 of the price.

    Yet, maybe the nuclear tech (engines) just isn't there yet, and it needs to be proven first.

    I guess what I mainly don't like is the wait time. IMO, there ought to be regular racing contests into deep space. Nothing seems as important as the technology of getting there, but this has been neglected.

  205. @Wielgus
    @AP

    This "loser" talk is very American, and reminds me that Social Darwinism is widespread in the USA. But if we get into it, it seems to me that Ukrainian "winners" are the ones who have managed to hightail it to Warsaw or even Berlin and London. The "losers" are still in Ukraine, the real "losers" are fighting, not necessarily willingly.
    Or are only Russians "losers"?

    Replies: @songbird, @AP, @emil nikola richard

    AP is very class-conscious. It plays heavily into his identity of being descended from EE aristocrats and may account for some of his general anti-nationalist sentiment. (Not anti-Galician!). As well as some of his resentment for Anglos, who probably used to have the most class prestige.

    I suspect that IRL he really uses the term “upper-middle class” to describe his own economic niche.

  206. @Wielgus
    @AP

    This "loser" talk is very American, and reminds me that Social Darwinism is widespread in the USA. But if we get into it, it seems to me that Ukrainian "winners" are the ones who have managed to hightail it to Warsaw or even Berlin and London. The "losers" are still in Ukraine, the real "losers" are fighting, not necessarily willingly.
    Or are only Russians "losers"?

    Replies: @songbird, @AP, @emil nikola richard

    In Ukraine a lot of normal people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect. So Ukraine is not losing only “losers.” For example, I know of one guy, a university professor in Western Europe who returned to Ukraine to fight (and was killed, leaving behind 2 kids). One hears about the occasional Olympic athlete, or businessman, or well known actor, dying at the front for Ukraine. *

    But in Russia the people fighting are almost all those desperate enough to risk getting killed for a few thousand dollars in some Ukrainian field (typically, very poor people from the provinces), and prison inmates. Societal losers whose losses are acceptable by other Russians. Lots of them are getting killed.

    Regular people in Russia do not want to die in some field in Ukraine and Putin does not dare to force them to do that. If he could get away with it, he would have. He might have won the war if he did that. Bur he is constrained. This btw largely eliminates Russia’s overall population advantage. Russia may have 4 times more people than Ukraine, but its helpless and desperate loser population is not 4 times larger than Ukraine’s population.

    In amoral purely Darwinist terms this is worse for Ukraine than for Russia. Russia is culling its poor and its criminals while Ukraine is losing some of its best people. Though Ukraine seems to be so far less likely to send youths into the war than Russia is.

    A lot of the Ukrainian guys in the West seem to be eastern Ukrainians who are less patriotic. When I was in Poland in 2022 I had a few Ukrainian Uber drivers. They were all from places like Zaporizhia. One of them told me that their colleagues from Kiev or Lviv had mostly returned to Ukraine after the war began, in order to defend their country. Only Easterners were left, among men. They had come to hate Russia too, but weren’t motivated enough to fight despite their people being killed to a much greater extent then people from places like Lviv (at the time I was there, Kiev was still under threat though).

    * Though among Ukrainian forces the conscripts, often eastern villagers, seem to have higher casualty rates than volunteers. Volunteers seem to be better equipped and have had more training. They are often brighter and more resourceful, which is associated with longevity on the battlefield.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    "people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect"

    If Scotland had voted for independence from the rest of the UK in say 2000, then I honestly think only the real English-haters (who certainly exist) would want to kill and die in 2024 to retain that independence. It's not 1450.

    Replies: @AP

  207. @Wielgus
    @AP

    This "loser" talk is very American, and reminds me that Social Darwinism is widespread in the USA. But if we get into it, it seems to me that Ukrainian "winners" are the ones who have managed to hightail it to Warsaw or even Berlin and London. The "losers" are still in Ukraine, the real "losers" are fighting, not necessarily willingly.
    Or are only Russians "losers"?

    Replies: @songbird, @AP, @emil nikola richard

    Loser is the ultimate woman insult. Women’s pain at having their eye blackened or their jaw broken or their teeth punched out or their limbs broken is nothing in comparison to the humiliation of the family, friends, acquaintances et al seeing the proof that they have married a loser. None of these people who go on about wife beaters seem to know any wife beaters or beaten wives. The television programming is no more accurate on this subject than any other. Women would generally rather have the world know their son is a serial child rapist than that their husband is a loser.

    • Replies: @AP
    @emil nikola richard

    Trump has inserted that word into common speech. Not a fan?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  208. Interesting stuff, “no negotiations” Zelensky is interested in negotiations!

    https://www.ft.com/content/b3281f4f-731e-434f-89e2-53dec0e8b933

    “Russia putting an end to aerial attacks on Ukrainian energy targets and cargo ships could pave the way for negotiations to end the war, the Ukrainian president has said.
    Volodymyr Zelenskyy told journalists in Kyiv on Monday that “when it comes to energy and freedom of navigation, getting a result on these points would be a signal that Russia may be ready to end the war”.
    Ukraine has been bracing for a painful winter after a series of Russian missile strikes on thermal power plants destroyed almost half of its energy generation. The country is now largely dependent on its nuclear power plants and the import of energy from European countries.”

    I hadn’t twigged that the relatively recent (last 6 months?) Russian attacks on Ukrainian power stations were a response to the (obviously painful) Ukr/NATO attacks on oil and gas infrastructure.

    Prior to that they’d hit smaller, replaceable transformers, but not big ones or power stations. Irritant to power systems rather than serious.

    It appears that the Z-man is first to cry “Uncle”.

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon

    That's a rather tendentious interpretation. He's giving a condition to Putin for the start of negotiations.

    If Russia wants to exchange electric grid for electric grid - winters are much, much colder and deadlier in Russia than they are in Ukraine. And Russia is much harder to leave.

  209. @emil nikola richard
    @Wielgus

    Loser is the ultimate woman insult. Women's pain at having their eye blackened or their jaw broken or their teeth punched out or their limbs broken is nothing in comparison to the humiliation of the family, friends, acquaintances et al seeing the proof that they have married a loser. None of these people who go on about wife beaters seem to know any wife beaters or beaten wives. The television programming is no more accurate on this subject than any other. Women would generally rather have the world know their son is a serial child rapist than that their husband is a loser.

    Replies: @AP

    Trump has inserted that word into common speech. Not a fan?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @AP

    He is relating to his women voters.

    The Daily Mail has a photo of Ivanka's 13 year old daughter today. It could be a bad shot. My reaction was the Florida plastic surgeons are looking at that and drooling for dollars.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @songbird

  210. @AP
    @Wielgus

    In Ukraine a lot of normal people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect. So Ukraine is not losing only “losers.” For example, I know of one guy, a university professor in Western Europe who returned to Ukraine to fight (and was killed, leaving behind 2 kids). One hears about the occasional Olympic athlete, or businessman, or well known actor, dying at the front for Ukraine. *

    But in Russia the people fighting are almost all those desperate enough to risk getting killed for a few thousand dollars in some Ukrainian field (typically, very poor people from the provinces), and prison inmates. Societal losers whose losses are acceptable by other Russians. Lots of them are getting killed.

    Regular people in Russia do not want to die in some field in Ukraine and Putin does not dare to force them to do that. If he could get away with it, he would have. He might have won the war if he did that. Bur he is constrained. This btw largely eliminates Russia’s overall population advantage. Russia may have 4 times more people than Ukraine, but its helpless and desperate loser population is not 4 times larger than Ukraine’s population.

    In amoral purely Darwinist terms this is worse for Ukraine than for Russia. Russia is culling its poor and its criminals while Ukraine is losing some of its best people. Though Ukraine seems to be so far less likely to send youths into the war than Russia is.

    A lot of the Ukrainian guys in the West seem to be eastern Ukrainians who are less patriotic. When I was in Poland in 2022 I had a few Ukrainian Uber drivers. They were all from places like Zaporizhia. One of them told me that their colleagues from Kiev or Lviv had mostly returned to Ukraine after the war began, in order to defend their country. Only Easterners were left, among men. They had come to hate Russia too, but weren’t motivated enough to fight despite their people being killed to a much greater extent then people from places like Lviv (at the time I was there, Kiev was still under threat though).

    * Though among Ukrainian forces the conscripts, often eastern villagers, seem to have higher casualty rates than volunteers. Volunteers seem to be better equipped and have had more training. They are often brighter and more resourceful, which is associated with longevity on the battlefield.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect

    If Scotland had voted for independence from the rest of the UK in say 2000, then I honestly think only the real English-haters (who certainly exist) would want to kill and die in 2024 to retain that independence. It’s not 1450.

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I concede that western Euros, the type of people who allow their countries to be flooded by Third Worlders who abuse them, might also not be likely to fight for their countries. Those aren't Eastern Europeans though. The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so. Ukrainians highlight their uselessness and cowardice, so they hate them for it.

    Plus of course, the English are not nearly as bad as the Russians towards their subjects. At least, they haven't been for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

  211. @AP
    @emil nikola richard

    Trump has inserted that word into common speech. Not a fan?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    He is relating to his women voters.

    The Daily Mail has a photo of Ivanka’s 13 year old daughter today. It could be a bad shot. My reaction was the Florida plastic surgeons are looking at that and drooling for dollars.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @emil nikola richard

    Billy Joel should be hanged for spoiling the womb of Brinkley.

    It’s an abomination.

    , @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Ivanka's daughter favors the father.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  212. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    She has been moving to the center to try to win the election. Her plan is like the previous compromise but with smaller numbers allowed before the shut down is triggered.

    Also, the Senate will likely be Republican this time so to get a deal she would have to make her plan tougher than the previous one was.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Do you have a link to her plan, please?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel, @songbird

  213. @A123
    @Derer


    there are 38 Jewish congressmen with dual citizenship
     
    Off the top of my head, I know that neither Bernie Sanders nor Chuck Schumer are dual citizens. So, your statement is clearly wrong.

    that unproportionally occupy important positions in Senate and House committees
     
    House and Senate positions are handed out mostly based on seniority, though fund raising prowess also helps. The assignments are proportionate based on these nonreligious characteristics.

    ignoring the real power and that is the American Jewish lobby that serve to Israel
    ...
    37 Democrats
     
    So there are 37 Jewish Democrats, yet their party is turning on Palestinian Jews to court Muslim votes. Hmmmmm.... It seems like that these 37 individuals have little power if they cannot stop Harris/Biden sending billions of dollars to Iran that were used to target Palestinian Jews. How many of these Democrats:

    • Are actually sincere practitioners of Judaism?
    • Hate American Jews and Christians so much they are for open borders?

    These "Congressional Democrat Jews" much more closely resemble anti-Semite George IslamoSoros. Another enemy of the Jews, much like Führer Zelensky.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    much like Führer Zelensky

    Ze is more like ein Busführer.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Jew King of Kiev is most accurate!

    Replies: @A123

  214. @emil nikola richard
    @AP

    He is relating to his women voters.

    The Daily Mail has a photo of Ivanka's 13 year old daughter today. It could be a bad shot. My reaction was the Florida plastic surgeons are looking at that and drooling for dollars.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @songbird

    Billy Joel should be hanged for spoiling the womb of Brinkley.

    It’s an abomination.

  215. @emil nikola richard
    @AP

    He is relating to his women voters.

    The Daily Mail has a photo of Ivanka's 13 year old daughter today. It could be a bad shot. My reaction was the Florida plastic surgeons are looking at that and drooling for dollars.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @songbird

    Ivanka’s daughter favors the father.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Did you see the photo of 12 y. o. Kylie Jenner Priss Factor posted? She looked just like Bruce on the Wheaties box, not a bad-looking kid, nothing at all like the international super star shaped by Hollywood plastic surgeons.

    Replies: @songbird

  216. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Do you have a link to her plan, please?

    Replies: @AP

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    With NYC we saw that even the Democrats have their limits on immigration. The MSM described the Texas bussing as a meaningless political show but it actually worked wonders. The NYC Democrats are now split on immigration. White liberals love illegal immigration when it involves other White people.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Thanks! So, it looks like Kamala is being reasonable in regards to this.

    The US Senate is likely to be GOP-led after this election, but there's a very real chance that the Democrats will win control of the House of Representatives:

    https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/house

    https://elections2024.thehill.com/forecast/2024/house/

    They only need several extra House seats for a majority. If this would be the case, then this would compensate for the GOP gaining control of the US Senate, no?

    As a side note, if Trump wins this year, I expect both 2026 and 2028 to be Democratic victories.

    , @Mikel
    @AP

    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka "path to citizenship"). See under More. Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries?

    Admittedly, Trump is a flawed candidate supported by morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight but the border issue alone merits voting for him in this election.

    If there is any country in the world that can afford the luxury of vetting its immigrants thoroughly it's the US. It's the country that attracts the highest amount of immigrants in the world by far. There's surely hundreds of millions of people who would come to the US if they had the chance so we could be importing top professionals, skilled tradesmen, scientists, businessmen and people who can contribute to make the US even more prosperous. Instead, criminals and low education migrants from the Third World are coming by the millions. Voting for a candidate who enabled that, promises to make them citizens and obviously has zero intention of changing this policy once the election campaign is over is incredibly absurd.


    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849122750125990232
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849150743863067010

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    , @songbird
    @AP

    You really expect someone (or someone with an underling tweeting in their name) comparing Trump to "Adolf Hitler" to enforce the border?!
    https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1849179027849851269

  217. @AP
    @Sean

    You are correct that the only way to permanently prevent Ukraine from joining NATO would be to conquer and subjugate it, or at least those parts to be kept out.

    But Putin can’t even take Kharkiv, how will he take the rest? Short of mass full mobilisation with out any resistance by Russian people (impossible, or it would have even done by now) or mass nuclear holocaust, it won’t happen. So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate. He would have to settle for permanently keeping NATO out of Crimea or Donbas.

    Replies: @Sean

    So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate.

    How would a stalemated war, which would keep Ukraine out of Nato for the duration, make him want to stop fighting? In the light of Putin’s objective of bringing Ukraine into the Russian orbit, continuing a futile war would be preferable to a peace agreement that freed Ukraine to join Nato.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of "losers" and arms (he can't force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it's going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine's odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn't occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won't necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won't be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

  218. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    To elaborate on my previous point here, I don't think that Kamala would want to reward the GOP for their obstructionism by giving them an even better border bill. If she will concede in regards to this, then this would pave the way for the GOP to do even more obstructionism on various issues so that they could get even better deals on these issues later on.

    Otherwise, though, I completely agree with you here.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    To elaborate on my previous point here, I don’t think that Kamala would want to reward the GOP for their obstructionism by giving them an even better border bill.

    I don’t see it happening unless they take the House and Senate.

    In which case I think they could pressure her into signing something or at least the bipartisan bill they had before Trump blew it up.

    One problem with Trump winning is that there will be obstructionist Democrats. They won’t want to give him anything and in his first term he proved that his border talk was mostly rhetoric. Half of Guatemala is going to come here and I don’t have any faith that Trump or Kamala will do anything. Probably a million cat chasers as well. Central America and Haiti put their best hope in sending out immigrant swarms and then getting remittances in return. And in fall fairness it makes economic sense for them. The White man has chosen fantasy over reality and neighboring countries might as well take their slice of the pie.

  219. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel, @songbird

    With NYC we saw that even the Democrats have their limits on immigration. The MSM described the Texas bussing as a meaningless political show but it actually worked wonders. The NYC Democrats are now split on immigration. White liberals love illegal immigration when it involves other White people.

  220. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Ivanka's daughter favors the father.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Did you see the photo of 12 y. o. Kylie Jenner Priss Factor posted? She looked just like Bruce on the Wheaties box, not a bad-looking kid, nothing at all like the international super star shaped by Hollywood plastic surgeons.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Haven't seen it unless it is one of these.
    https://fq.co.nz/gallery/kylie-jenner-transformation/

    Not a fan of plastic.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  221. Unz’s Sunday midnight post on Miles Mathis has hit 1000 comments. Does his marketing manager get a bonus or just an attaboy?

  222. @songbird
    @A123


    much like Führer Zelensky
     
    Ze is more like ein Busführer.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Jew King of Kiev is most accurate!

    • Replies: @A123
    @Wokechoke

    Try Azov neo-Nazi, Anti-Jew Führer of Kiev.

    Everyone should remember that Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, travelled to Jerusalem to intentionally offend authentic Palestinian Jews. Do you need me to repeat the citation about how badly he did with the religious parties and Likud?

    If there is a "Jewish side" to this conflict, it is Moscow. Kiev is deeply intertwined with European led IslamoGloboHomo.

    PEACE 😇

  223. @YetAnotherAnon
    Interesting stuff, "no negotiations" Zelensky is interested in negotiations!

    https://www.ft.com/content/b3281f4f-731e-434f-89e2-53dec0e8b933

    "Russia putting an end to aerial attacks on Ukrainian energy targets and cargo ships could pave the way for negotiations to end the war, the Ukrainian president has said.
    Volodymyr Zelenskyy told journalists in Kyiv on Monday that “when it comes to energy and freedom of navigation, getting a result on these points would be a signal that Russia may be ready to end the war”.
    Ukraine has been bracing for a painful winter after a series of Russian missile strikes on thermal power plants destroyed almost half of its energy generation. The country is now largely dependent on its nuclear power plants and the import of energy from European countries."
     
    I hadn't twigged that the relatively recent (last 6 months?) Russian attacks on Ukrainian power stations were a response to the (obviously painful) Ukr/NATO attacks on oil and gas infrastructure.

    Prior to that they'd hit smaller, replaceable transformers, but not big ones or power stations. Irritant to power systems rather than serious.

    It appears that the Z-man is first to cry "Uncle".

    Replies: @AP

    That’s a rather tendentious interpretation. He’s giving a condition to Putin for the start of negotiations.

    If Russia wants to exchange electric grid for electric grid – winters are much, much colder and deadlier in Russia than they are in Ukraine. And Russia is much harder to leave.

  224. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Jew King of Kiev is most accurate!

    Replies: @A123

    Try Azov neo-Nazi, Anti-Jew Führer of Kiev.

    Everyone should remember that Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, travelled to Jerusalem to intentionally offend authentic Palestinian Jews. Do you need me to repeat the citation about how badly he did with the religious parties and Likud?

    If there is a “Jewish side” to this conflict, it is Moscow. Kiev is deeply intertwined with European led IslamoGloboHomo.

    PEACE 😇

  225. @Sean
    @AP


    So eventually he will come to understand the inevitable and there will be some sort of stalemate.
     
    How would a stalemated war, which would keep Ukraine out of Nato for the duration, make him want to stop fighting? In the light of Putin's objective of bringing Ukraine into the Russian orbit, continuing a futile war would be preferable to a peace agreement that freed Ukraine to join Nato.

    Replies: @AP

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of “losers” and arms (he can’t force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine’s odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn’t occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won’t necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won’t be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up? I remember AK made an interesting independent estimate of Russian casualties a couple of years ago.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful because the new Ukrainian leadership can distance itself from the Western sponsors of this mess.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    What do you think about this article, AP?

    https://www.philippelemoine.com/p/the-russo-ukrainian-war-and-the-end

    , @Sean
    @AP


    Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. ...] So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.
     
    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia's military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin's Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    America wants a balanced regional systems of forces across the globe. If it gets that in Europe it can concentrate on setting up something similar in East Asia. Then it can be an offshore balancer to tip the scales when absolutely necessary. To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US.

    In my opinion, Russia's very fragility is their ace in the hole. Whether he realises the reason for it or not, Putin's best strategy (and probable instinctive inclination) is to continue levying war on Ukraine until the very last extremity is reached for Russia, then show willing to go beyond that point and run Russia completely into the ground, thereby putting America on the horns of a dilemma..

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Beckow

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

     

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

  226. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    "people are fighting for their country’s survival, as one would expect"

    If Scotland had voted for independence from the rest of the UK in say 2000, then I honestly think only the real English-haters (who certainly exist) would want to kill and die in 2024 to retain that independence. It's not 1450.

    Replies: @AP

    I concede that western Euros, the type of people who allow their countries to be flooded by Third Worlders who abuse them, might also not be likely to fight for their countries. Those aren’t Eastern Europeans though. The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so. Ukrainians highlight their uselessness and cowardice, so they hate them for it.

    Plus of course, the English are not nearly as bad as the Russians towards their subjects. At least, they haven’t been for generations.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    How many Russians do you think would actually fight for their country if they were attacked by China? At least in the absence of a draft?

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @Wokechoke
    @AP

    Ukies strike me as double dealing snakes though. All the vices of a border people. Fighting for Thai side than the other. Altogether too keen to shed other folks blood. Their behavior as Hiwis helping German Sixth Army at Stalingrad then as murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France.

    Absolute disgraceful double dealings.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    , @Coconuts
    @AP


    The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so.
     
    Western progressives often present Putler as a kind of fascist and nationalist, who supports the nationalist leaning leaders in the West. In this way they manufacture some soft power for Russia in ways the Russians themselves would probably not be able to achieve if they were consciously trying to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

  227. Mikel of #NeverMAGA must be deep in SADZ.

    His precious Kamala is sinking: (1)

    Warning lights have been flashing all over the Democrats’ 2024 dashboard, and now a new one is pointing to big trouble for Kamala Harris in the battleground state of Nevada, where early voting results show that GOP voters are actually outnumbering Democrats.

    Across the country, Democrats typically account for a majority of early votes, and Nevada has been no exception — until now. “The numbers look pretty GOP so far, and that never happens in a presidential year,” wrote veteran Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston in a Tuesday afternoon blog post at the Nevada Independent.

    Mikel,

    No matter much you go
         Boo hoo! Boo hoo!
    No one serious will ever
            feel sad for you.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/startling-gop-early-voting-turnout-nevada-amazes-veteran-observer-alarms-dems

  228. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel, @songbird

    Thanks! So, it looks like Kamala is being reasonable in regards to this.

    The US Senate is likely to be GOP-led after this election, but there’s a very real chance that the Democrats will win control of the House of Representatives:

    https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/house

    https://elections2024.thehill.com/forecast/2024/house/

    They only need several extra House seats for a majority. If this would be the case, then this would compensate for the GOP gaining control of the US Senate, no?

    As a side note, if Trump wins this year, I expect both 2026 and 2028 to be Democratic victories.

  229. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of "losers" and arms (he can't force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it's going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine's odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn't occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won't necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won't be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up? I remember AK made an interesting independent estimate of Russian casualties a couple of years ago.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful because the new Ukrainian leadership can distance itself from the Western sponsors of this mess.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up
     
    Look underneath the more tag. Elsewhere he was saying it may even be 3:1. Pro-war Russians themselves are complaining about it now.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful
     
    The usual up is down and down is up contrarianism from you.




    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1845099412214706411?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC

  230. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Did you see the photo of 12 y. o. Kylie Jenner Priss Factor posted? She looked just like Bruce on the Wheaties box, not a bad-looking kid, nothing at all like the international super star shaped by Hollywood plastic surgeons.

    Replies: @songbird

    Haven’t seen it unless it is one of these.
    https://fq.co.nz/gallery/kylie-jenner-transformation/

    Not a fan of plastic.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Not one of those. It was a candid, not a pose. Real smile with gap between her two crooked front teeth. Bruce Jenner face features.

    When I put Bruce Jenner into the google search box the results come back labeled Caitlyn. Maybe your browser has autocorrect. Mine has auto-distort for this string. I wonder if they will let me search for Willie Brown skank ho.

  231. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of "losers" and arms (he can't force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it's going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine's odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn't occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won't necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won't be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

  232. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I concede that western Euros, the type of people who allow their countries to be flooded by Third Worlders who abuse them, might also not be likely to fight for their countries. Those aren't Eastern Europeans though. The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so. Ukrainians highlight their uselessness and cowardice, so they hate them for it.

    Plus of course, the English are not nearly as bad as the Russians towards their subjects. At least, they haven't been for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

    How many Russians do you think would actually fight for their country if they were attacked by China? At least in the absence of a draft?

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mr. XYZ

    Japan is more likely to come to settle old scores with Russia.

    This one in 1904 was overcoming a 1:2 disadvantage

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Battle_of_Liaoyang.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Battle_of_Liao_Yang.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoyang

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  233. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel, @songbird

    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka “path to citizenship”). See under More. Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries?

    Admittedly, Trump is a flawed candidate supported by morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight but the border issue alone merits voting for him in this election.

    If there is any country in the world that can afford the luxury of vetting its immigrants thoroughly it’s the US. It’s the country that attracts the highest amount of immigrants in the world by far. There’s surely hundreds of millions of people who would come to the US if they had the chance so we could be importing top professionals, skilled tradesmen, scientists, businessmen and people who can contribute to make the US even more prosperous. Instead, criminals and low education migrants from the Third World are coming by the millions. Voting for a candidate who enabled that, promises to make them citizens and obviously has zero intention of changing this policy once the election campaign is over is incredibly absurd.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight
     
    • Why are you a moronic low-IQ Yahoo triggered by Trump's weight?
    • Why is Emil a similar moronic low-IQ Yahoo triggered by Trump's weight?

    Trump has no medical diagnoses tied to weight. So, it is incredibly obvious to everyone that only moronic #NeverTrump zealots have a motive to bring up an irrelevancy. It is a petty insult hurled by small and inadequate minds.

    Why are you such a "triggered" #NeverMAGA supporter of your precious Harris? Everyone sees your dishonesty and insincerity. Here is an easy test if you want people to believe you are a MAGA supporter:

    How many posts can you go without lashing out with #NeverMAGA lies or insults targeting the MAGA candidate Trump?

    Can you go two weeks to get beyond the election without lies and insults? Based on your previous #NeverMAGA performance, I am not holding my breath.

    PEACE 😇
    ____

    P.S. Remember the "YellowFaceAnon Rule":

    ============================
          If you tell me what I believe.
      I get to tell you what you believe.
    ============================
    , @AP
    @Mikel


    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka “path to citizenship”)
     
    Here’s the interesting thing. Kamala increases Latin Americanization by eventually giving citizenship to illegals who have lived and worked here illegally for decades. It would be funny if many of these vote Republican, as working class people in America increasingly do. Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions. How did Peronism work for Argentina? MAGAtards are in some ways America’s “shirtless ones.” He’ll bring it here.

    I think the latter is ultimately more harmful.

    Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries
     
    Why only California? Texas and Florida have also seen their Latino population increase and they have not become California. Florida has become more Republican and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.

    :::::::::

    The border has tightened now, before the election. You shouldn’t take Kamala’s previous policies or statements seriously- like Vance (who had once compared Trump to Hitler), she does what is politically expedient for her. That means tightening the border. A Republican Senate will insure that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  234. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I concede that western Euros, the type of people who allow their countries to be flooded by Third Worlders who abuse them, might also not be likely to fight for their countries. Those aren't Eastern Europeans though. The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so. Ukrainians highlight their uselessness and cowardice, so they hate them for it.

    Plus of course, the English are not nearly as bad as the Russians towards their subjects. At least, they haven't been for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

    Ukies strike me as double dealing snakes though. All the vices of a border people. Fighting for Thai side than the other. Altogether too keen to shed other folks blood. Their behavior as Hiwis helping German Sixth Army at Stalingrad then as murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France.

    Absolute disgraceful double dealings.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Wokechoke

    Ukrainians fought for the Thais? When?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @AP
    @Wokechoke


    murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France

     

    The ones killing the German officers in France had taken an oath to fight alongside Germans against Bolsheviks. They did so. It was the German side who betrayed them by trying to send them to fight the Western allies instead. The Germans were dealt with accordingly.
  235. Now that it has come out that Soros was funding Compact Mag (which I never heard of) and Chris Rufo works there, and was recently calling for censorship of the “alt-right” on X, can we finally link LatW to Soros cash?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    BAP has been talking about rumours of this funding for a while. Ahmari kept attacking BAP and promoting articles about the dangers of Nietzscheans, BAP would reply in kind at the start of his podcasts. Then the rumours about Soros funding behind Compact started appearing.

    Replies: @songbird, @emil nikola richard

  236. “Electro-agriculture”
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/10/241023131024.htm

    If you were going that far, wouldn’t yeast vats be better than plants?

  237. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    This says she wants the Senate plan plus harsher penalties for repeat offenders and ban on asylum-seekers who cross illegally rather than ask for asylum at border checkpoints, enshrining Biden’s executive order, that has recently decreased border crossings, into law:

    https://thehill.com/latino/4904672-harris-calls-for-tougher-border-security-immigration-reform-in-arizona/

    With a Republican senate, I would expect further movement in the right direction.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel, @songbird

    You really expect someone (or someone with an underling tweeting in their name) comparing Trump to “Adolf Hitler” to enforce the border?!

    [MORE]

  238. @Mikel
    @AP

    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka "path to citizenship"). See under More. Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries?

    Admittedly, Trump is a flawed candidate supported by morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight but the border issue alone merits voting for him in this election.

    If there is any country in the world that can afford the luxury of vetting its immigrants thoroughly it's the US. It's the country that attracts the highest amount of immigrants in the world by far. There's surely hundreds of millions of people who would come to the US if they had the chance so we could be importing top professionals, skilled tradesmen, scientists, businessmen and people who can contribute to make the US even more prosperous. Instead, criminals and low education migrants from the Third World are coming by the millions. Voting for a candidate who enabled that, promises to make them citizens and obviously has zero intention of changing this policy once the election campaign is over is incredibly absurd.


    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849122750125990232
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849150743863067010

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight

    • Why are you a moronic low-IQ Yahoo triggered by Trump’s weight?
    • Why is Emil a similar moronic low-IQ Yahoo triggered by Trump’s weight?

    Trump has no medical diagnoses tied to weight. So, it is incredibly obvious to everyone that only moronic #NeverTrump zealots have a motive to bring up an irrelevancy. It is a petty insult hurled by small and inadequate minds.

    Why are you such a “triggered” #NeverMAGA supporter of your precious Harris? Everyone sees your dishonesty and insincerity. Here is an easy test if you want people to believe you are a MAGA supporter:

    How many posts can you go without lashing out with #NeverMAGA lies or insults targeting the MAGA candidate Trump?

    Can you go two weeks to get beyond the election without lies and insults? Based on your previous #NeverMAGA performance, I am not holding my breath.

    PEACE 😇
    ____

    P.S. Remember the “YellowFaceAnon Rule”:

    ============================
          If you tell me what I believe.
      I get to tell you what you believe.
    ============================

  239. Never knew this, but the tips of fingers can grow back naturally in kids.

    Regrowth of the fingertips
    Fingertips, after having been torn off children, have been observed to regrow in less than 8 weeks.[24] However, these fingertips do not look the same, although they do look more appealing than a skin graft or a sewn fingertip. No healing occurs if the tear happens below the nail. This works because the distal phalanges are regenerative in youth, and stem cells in the nails create new tissue that ends up as the fingertip.[25]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    Balts and Celts have the most Yamnaya ancestry of all Euros, yet both got pushed to fringes of Europe.

    It's like the Cleveland Browns who drafts first and finishes 1-15.

    Chinese also are more knowledgeable about Euro genes than you wiggers.

    https://twitter.com/BornToKill_A/status/1840045601653960957

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    The vas deferens can also grow back. As can the Fallopian tubes.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Everybody needs to read this book. Your fingertips bit is included as one of dozens of marvels of biology our doctor drug dealers don't bother to learn.

    https://www.amazon.com/Body-Electric-Electromagnetism-Foundation-Life/dp/0688069711

    It's a pity Tennessee flew the coup. His take would have been useful.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Barbarossa
    @songbird

    I already knew that because... (drum roll please) I read emil nikola richard's book recommendation of The Body Electric !

    I you read it you will also discover that salamanders are really neato in ways that I had not hitherto imagined. The science of salamander limb regeneration is extremely fascinating.

    The main moral of the story is that emil has good book recommendations. I don't believe I've had any duds from him.

    Replies: @songbird

  240. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    How many Russians do you think would actually fight for their country if they were attacked by China? At least in the absence of a draft?

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Japan is more likely to come to settle old scores with Russia.

    This one in 1904 was overcoming a 1:2 disadvantage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoyang

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Japan would wage war against Russia without Western aid for the four disputed southernmost Kuril Islands?

  241. @songbird
    Never knew this, but the tips of fingers can grow back naturally in kids.

    Regrowth of the fingertips
    Fingertips, after having been torn off children, have been observed to regrow in less than 8 weeks.[24] However, these fingertips do not look the same, although they do look more appealing than a skin graft or a sewn fingertip. No healing occurs if the tear happens below the nail. This works because the distal phalanges are regenerative in youth, and stem cells in the nails create new tissue that ends up as the fingertip.[25]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Mr. XYZ, @emil nikola richard, @Barbarossa

    Balts and Celts have the most Yamnaya ancestry of all Euros, yet both got pushed to fringes of Europe.

    It’s like the Cleveland Browns who drafts first and finishes 1-15.

    Chinese also are more knowledgeable about Euro genes than you wiggers.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Nobody knows anything about genetics for about twenty years when it morphed into a commercial enterprise. Their powers of reason are addled by greed.

    , @songbird
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    All these things are abstractions, but those are very high side estimates. Usually, Irish runs more into the 30s. 50 is not really believable, IMO, as R1b has not been found among the Yamnaya.

    Yamnaya themselves were replaced by a European offshoot in their homeland.

    Europe has always been filled with contention. EU is very unnatural. But neither the Shannon or Daugava is the Yellow River

  242. @Wokechoke
    @AP

    Ukies strike me as double dealing snakes though. All the vices of a border people. Fighting for Thai side than the other. Altogether too keen to shed other folks blood. Their behavior as Hiwis helping German Sixth Army at Stalingrad then as murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France.

    Absolute disgraceful double dealings.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Ukrainians fought for the Thais? When?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. XYZ

    lol. I meant “The Side…” But who knows; perhaps they even managed to do that in the Japan Burma Campaign.

  243. @songbird
    Never knew this, but the tips of fingers can grow back naturally in kids.

    Regrowth of the fingertips
    Fingertips, after having been torn off children, have been observed to regrow in less than 8 weeks.[24] However, these fingertips do not look the same, although they do look more appealing than a skin graft or a sewn fingertip. No healing occurs if the tear happens below the nail. This works because the distal phalanges are regenerative in youth, and stem cells in the nails create new tissue that ends up as the fingertip.[25]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Mr. XYZ, @emil nikola richard, @Barbarossa

    The vas deferens can also grow back. As can the Fallopian tubes.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Appears to be uncommon.

    I recall looking at the fallopian tube of a rat. With the pin in it, and against other tissue, it was very hard to see. I didn't perceive it at all, at first. These are very small things.

  244. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Mr. XYZ

    Japan is more likely to come to settle old scores with Russia.

    This one in 1904 was overcoming a 1:2 disadvantage

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Battle_of_Liaoyang.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Battle_of_Liao_Yang.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoyang

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Japan would wage war against Russia without Western aid for the four disputed southernmost Kuril Islands?

  245. Watch this building in Kursk go boom from US JDAMs

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  246. @songbird
    Never knew this, but the tips of fingers can grow back naturally in kids.

    Regrowth of the fingertips
    Fingertips, after having been torn off children, have been observed to regrow in less than 8 weeks.[24] However, these fingertips do not look the same, although they do look more appealing than a skin graft or a sewn fingertip. No healing occurs if the tear happens below the nail. This works because the distal phalanges are regenerative in youth, and stem cells in the nails create new tissue that ends up as the fingertip.[25]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Mr. XYZ, @emil nikola richard, @Barbarossa

    Everybody needs to read this book. Your fingertips bit is included as one of dozens of marvels of biology our doctor drug dealers don’t bother to learn.

    It’s a pity Tennessee flew the coup. His take would have been useful.

    • Thanks: songbird, Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    The jazz supergroup of the 197o's, Weather Report, came up with their second album "I Sing the Body Electric' that included this album cover art (that I've always liked). Warning: not the type of jazz to listen to if all that you've experienced thus far is "smooth jazz" ala Kenny G.

    https://therockpedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/I-Sing-the-Body-Electric-1972-by-Weather-Report.webp

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  247. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    Balts and Celts have the most Yamnaya ancestry of all Euros, yet both got pushed to fringes of Europe.

    It's like the Cleveland Browns who drafts first and finishes 1-15.

    Chinese also are more knowledgeable about Euro genes than you wiggers.

    https://twitter.com/BornToKill_A/status/1840045601653960957

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    Nobody knows anything about genetics for about twenty years when it morphed into a commercial enterprise. Their powers of reason are addled by greed.

  248. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Haven't seen it unless it is one of these.
    https://fq.co.nz/gallery/kylie-jenner-transformation/

    Not a fan of plastic.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Not one of those. It was a candid, not a pose. Real smile with gap between her two crooked front teeth. Bruce Jenner face features.

    When I put Bruce Jenner into the google search box the results come back labeled Caitlyn. Maybe your browser has autocorrect. Mine has auto-distort for this string. I wonder if they will let me search for Willie Brown skank ho.

  249. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I concede that western Euros, the type of people who allow their countries to be flooded by Third Worlders who abuse them, might also not be likely to fight for their countries. Those aren't Eastern Europeans though. The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so. Ukrainians highlight their uselessness and cowardice, so they hate them for it.

    Plus of course, the English are not nearly as bad as the Russians towards their subjects. At least, they haven't been for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

    The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so.

    Western progressives often present Putler as a kind of fascist and nationalist, who supports the nationalist leaning leaders in the West. In this way they manufacture some soft power for Russia in ways the Russians themselves would probably not be able to achieve if they were consciously trying to do it.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    Good soft power or bad? Being compared to the likes of Orban, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un can only produce a limited appeal around the world. Oh, and with Orangey here in the US. :-)

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @Derer
    @Coconuts


    In this way they (Western leaders) manufacture some soft power for Russia
     
    Who are those Western leaders and what they manufacture?

    Putin is Russian nationalist and rightfully so against the Western vultures with huge appetite for Russian resources. They will die without satisfying their appetite - too bad.
  250. @songbird
    Now that it has come out that Soros was funding Compact Mag (which I never heard of) and Chris Rufo works there, and was recently calling for censorship of the "alt-right" on X, can we finally link LatW to Soros cash?
    https://twitter.com/restoreorderusa/status/1849151762764116096

    https://twitter.com/UBERSOY1/status/1848828690869981272

    Replies: @Coconuts

    BAP has been talking about rumours of this funding for a while. Ahmari kept attacking BAP and promoting articles about the dangers of Nietzscheans, BAP would reply in kind at the start of his podcasts. Then the rumours about Soros funding behind Compact started appearing.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Wouldn't surprise me, if some of these atagonisms were already built in. Though neocon does seem like kind of an odd position for a Iranian, but maybe not, if they are blindingly antiregime. Though, $200,000 would be considered a lot of money at a place like Countercurrents

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @emil nikola richard
    @Coconuts

    https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2018/07/16/dont-drink-the-kool-aide-charlamagne-us-navy-the-stratford-negro-and-the-clandestine-mk-ultra-acid-test/#_ftnref29

    Charlagmagne Tha God, hard sex criminal and host of Kamala the Skank Ho, is a Soros project.

  251. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of "losers" and arms (he can't force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it's going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine's odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn't occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won't necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won't be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

    Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. …] So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia’s military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin’s Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    America wants a balanced regional systems of forces across the globe. If it gets that in Europe it can concentrate on setting up something similar in East Asia. Then it can be an offshore balancer to tip the scales when absolutely necessary. To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US.

    In my opinion, Russia’s very fragility is their ace in the hole. Whether he realises the reason for it or not, Putin’s best strategy (and probable instinctive inclination) is to continue levying war on Ukraine until the very last extremity is reached for Russia, then show willing to go beyond that point and run Russia completely into the ground, thereby putting America on the horns of a dilemma..

    • Replies: @A123
    @Sean


    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win
     
    Putin can win by running Kiev aggression out of manpower: (1)

    The Ukrainian prosecutor’s office has opened 51,000 cases of desertion through the first nine months of 2024. The number of soldiers abandoning their posts is likely to double last year’s total.

    The Times of London reported data from the Ukrainian government showing that "51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year."
     
    How many front line (not total military) troops does Ukraine have? ~300,000? That is about 17% desertion rate. One could argue the % is lower by including support personnel, but how often to rear echelon types desert? Kiev is struggling to maintain unit cohesiveness.

    beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.
     
    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump's 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    Christian America and Christian Russia should be able to cooperate. Both can work together to push back against IslamoGloboHomo.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-troops-increasingly-refusing-orders-desertion-rates-explode

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @AP
    @Sean


    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia’s military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin’s Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.
     
    That is, indeed, the dilemma. Putin can’t win but won’t (for now) accept a stalemate where everyone’s losses are reasonable. One which is going be the most likely outcome anyways, the only question is how many people will die and how weakened will Russia be by the time this inevitability is realised.

    The longer it goes, the more Russia (and of course Ukraine) suffers and the more China benefits.

    But spite is a powerful thing, Ukraine suffers even more. Putin’s behavior is in some ways similar to that of a bitter person in a divorce who bankrupts both himself and his ex (to the benefit of both sides’ attorneys) out of a useless and spiteful struggle.

    Putin will eventually have to make a choice about whether he hates idea of Russia losing Ukraine forever more than he loves Russia.


    To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US
     
    As I said, the odds of Ukraine joining NATO have improved as a result of the Russian invasion but are still well below 50%. The invasion has shown that Ukrainians are willing and able to fight and has resulted in a large, powerful and experienced military that would be an asset for NATO. But for reasons you described, America probably won’t go for it. The alternative would be Ukraine as an independent friendly power, either with its own nuke deterrent or with some kind of deadly drone deterrent. Something like what Sweden could have been during the Cold War when it was neutral but contemplating nukes.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Beckow
    @Sean

    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West. As the world started to form into two blocks the West foolishly dropped Russia and forced it to become a leading power in the Anti-Western block. This helps China, India, Middle East rising countries, etc...to the extent they never could had hoped for.

    It is too late, the irrational hatred by so many on the West for "Russia" has shifted the balance. Russia has 1/4 of the global natural resources - sooner or later the West will need them. Russia is also the only really powerful non-Western military force. Adding Russia to the non-Western block will over time be a catastrophe for the West.

    It was done out of ethnic hatred and greed. The expansion of NATO to Ukraine was an unnecessary self-defeating error. The result is that the West will be permanently weaker and the anti-Western block has been dramatically strengthened.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  252. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    The vas deferens can also grow back. As can the Fallopian tubes.

    Replies: @songbird

    Appears to be uncommon.

    I recall looking at the fallopian tube of a rat. With the pin in it, and against other tissue, it was very hard to see. I didn’t perceive it at all, at first. These are very small things.

  253. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    BAP has been talking about rumours of this funding for a while. Ahmari kept attacking BAP and promoting articles about the dangers of Nietzscheans, BAP would reply in kind at the start of his podcasts. Then the rumours about Soros funding behind Compact started appearing.

    Replies: @songbird, @emil nikola richard

    Wouldn’t surprise me, if some of these atagonisms were already built in. Though neocon does seem like kind of an odd position for a Iranian, but maybe not, if they are blindingly antiregime. Though, $200,000 would be considered a lot of money at a place like Countercurrents

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Wouldn’t surprise me, if some of these atagonisms were already built in. Though neocon does seem like kind of an odd position for a Iranian, but maybe not, if they are blindingly antiregime.
     
    Compact is a kind of post-liberal magazine, it is conservative but tended to be more left-wing economically and promoted workers' rights, it was favourable to immigration but only if it came from more traditional countries etc. Ahmari is a convert to Catholicism. BAP used to say that its main purpose was to suck energy out of the radical right space by distraction onto these themes, if Soros was funding it this could be true. I sometimes looked at it but it never seemed that interesting.
  254. @QCIC
    @AP

    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up? I remember AK made an interesting independent estimate of Russian casualties a couple of years ago.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful because the new Ukrainian leadership can distance itself from the Western sponsors of this mess.

    Replies: @AP

    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up

    Look underneath the more tag. Elsewhere he was saying it may even be 3:1. Pro-war Russians themselves are complaining about it now.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful

    The usual up is down and down is up contrarianism from you.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I don't see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don't have X). I was hoping there was some justification, though posting realistic numbers could get you in trouble on either side, as in most wars.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.

    Is Ukraine still press-ganging recruits? I would think by now this would be very dangerous for the 'recruiters'. I guess the SBU has full cell phone and email surveillance which probably helps a bit.

    Replies: @AP

  255. @Sean
    @AP


    Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. ...] So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.
     
    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia's military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin's Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    America wants a balanced regional systems of forces across the globe. If it gets that in Europe it can concentrate on setting up something similar in East Asia. Then it can be an offshore balancer to tip the scales when absolutely necessary. To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US.

    In my opinion, Russia's very fragility is their ace in the hole. Whether he realises the reason for it or not, Putin's best strategy (and probable instinctive inclination) is to continue levying war on Ukraine until the very last extremity is reached for Russia, then show willing to go beyond that point and run Russia completely into the ground, thereby putting America on the horns of a dilemma..

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Beckow

    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win

    Putin can win by running Kiev aggression out of manpower: (1)

    The Ukrainian prosecutor’s office has opened 51,000 cases of desertion through the first nine months of 2024. The number of soldiers abandoning their posts is likely to double last year’s total.

    The Times of London reported data from the Ukrainian government showing that “51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year.”

    How many front line (not total military) troops does Ukraine have? ~300,000? That is about 17% desertion rate. One could argue the % is lower by including support personnel, but how often to rear echelon types desert? Kiev is struggling to maintain unit cohesiveness.

    beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump’s 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    Christian America and Christian Russia should be able to cooperate. Both can work together to push back against IslamoGloboHomo.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-troops-increasingly-refusing-orders-desertion-rates-explode

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump’s 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    I don't think you understand how the US government works.

    The massive aid to Ukraine bill has already been signed into law.

    He can't go in and undo it.

    The main US artillery factory will be churning out shells for Ukraine next year and it won't matter who is president.

    Replies: @A123

  256. @Sean
    @AP


    Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. ...] So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.
     
    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia's military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin's Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    America wants a balanced regional systems of forces across the globe. If it gets that in Europe it can concentrate on setting up something similar in East Asia. Then it can be an offshore balancer to tip the scales when absolutely necessary. To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US.

    In my opinion, Russia's very fragility is their ace in the hole. Whether he realises the reason for it or not, Putin's best strategy (and probable instinctive inclination) is to continue levying war on Ukraine until the very last extremity is reached for Russia, then show willing to go beyond that point and run Russia completely into the ground, thereby putting America on the horns of a dilemma..

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Beckow

    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia’s military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin’s Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    That is, indeed, the dilemma. Putin can’t win but won’t (for now) accept a stalemate where everyone’s losses are reasonable. One which is going be the most likely outcome anyways, the only question is how many people will die and how weakened will Russia be by the time this inevitability is realised.

    The longer it goes, the more Russia (and of course Ukraine) suffers and the more China benefits.

    But spite is a powerful thing, Ukraine suffers even more. Putin’s behavior is in some ways similar to that of a bitter person in a divorce who bankrupts both himself and his ex (to the benefit of both sides’ attorneys) out of a useless and spiteful struggle.

    Putin will eventually have to make a choice about whether he hates idea of Russia losing Ukraine forever more than he loves Russia.

    To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US

    As I said, the odds of Ukraine joining NATO have improved as a result of the Russian invasion but are still well below 50%. The invasion has shown that Ukrainians are willing and able to fight and has resulted in a large, powerful and experienced military that would be an asset for NATO. But for reasons you described, America probably won’t go for it. The alternative would be Ukraine as an independent friendly power, either with its own nuke deterrent or with some kind of deadly drone deterrent. Something like what Sweden could have been during the Cold War when it was neutral but contemplating nukes.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process? This has always been a risk and some in Russia would not be surprised. I think Russia would tend to ignore such a move. Then NATO would rattle her sabers and Russia will simply say that NATO attacks will lead to nuclear retaliatory strikes (probably in Ukraine).

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    What do you think of this article, AP?

    https://www.philippelemoine.com/p/the-russo-ukrainian-war-and-the-end

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

  257. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    Balts and Celts have the most Yamnaya ancestry of all Euros, yet both got pushed to fringes of Europe.

    It's like the Cleveland Browns who drafts first and finishes 1-15.

    Chinese also are more knowledgeable about Euro genes than you wiggers.

    https://twitter.com/BornToKill_A/status/1840045601653960957

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    All these things are abstractions, but those are very high side estimates. Usually, Irish runs more into the 30s. 50 is not really believable, IMO, as R1b has not been found among the Yamnaya.

    Yamnaya themselves were replaced by a European offshoot in their homeland.

    Europe has always been filled with contention. EU is very unnatural. But neither the Shannon or Daugava is the Yellow River

  258. @Wokechoke
    @AP

    Ukies strike me as double dealing snakes though. All the vices of a border people. Fighting for Thai side than the other. Altogether too keen to shed other folks blood. Their behavior as Hiwis helping German Sixth Army at Stalingrad then as murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France.

    Absolute disgraceful double dealings.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    murderous underlings killing their SS officers in France

    The ones killing the German officers in France had taken an oath to fight alongside Germans against Bolsheviks. They did so. It was the German side who betrayed them by trying to send them to fight the Western allies instead. The Germans were dealt with accordingly.

  259. @John Johnson
    Watch this building in Kursk go boom from US JDAMs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzwRVJJemAY

    Replies: @QCIC

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    You are probably thinking of the building that was blown up by IDF.

    Replies: @QCIC

  260. @A123
    @Sean


    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win
     
    Putin can win by running Kiev aggression out of manpower: (1)

    The Ukrainian prosecutor’s office has opened 51,000 cases of desertion through the first nine months of 2024. The number of soldiers abandoning their posts is likely to double last year’s total.

    The Times of London reported data from the Ukrainian government showing that "51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year."
     
    How many front line (not total military) troops does Ukraine have? ~300,000? That is about 17% desertion rate. One could argue the % is lower by including support personnel, but how often to rear echelon types desert? Kiev is struggling to maintain unit cohesiveness.

    beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.
     
    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump's 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    Christian America and Christian Russia should be able to cooperate. Both can work together to push back against IslamoGloboHomo.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-troops-increasingly-refusing-orders-desertion-rates-explode

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump’s 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    I don’t think you understand how the US government works.

    The massive aid to Ukraine bill has already been signed into law.

    He can’t go in and undo it.

    The main US artillery factory will be churning out shells for Ukraine next year and it won’t matter who is president.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    The massive aid to Ukraine bill has already been signed into law.

    He can’t go in and undo it.
     
    I don’t think you understand how the U.S. government works.

    Most of the money will be spent and supplies delivered before Trump is sworn in IIRC $50B+ of the 60B. Anything left in February can be repurposed to the extent that the law allows.

    For example, Mobile Army Surgical Hospital [MASH] units are expensive military kit with no offensive potential. Who could argue with helping injured troops?

    Some of it could be programmed into things that Führer Zelensky has asked for, such as Patriot interceptors. That could easily chew up $1B and provides little opportunity for aggression. And, we might even get some back when the batteries are returned after Kiev capitulates.

    The main US artillery factory will be churning out shells for Ukraine next year and it won’t matter who is president.
     
    They can churn out those shells to restock severely depleted American military depots. There is no need to send them to Kiev.

    PEACE 😇
  261. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    You are probably thinking of the building that was blown up by IDF.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  262. @AP
    @Sean


    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia’s military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin’s Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.
     
    That is, indeed, the dilemma. Putin can’t win but won’t (for now) accept a stalemate where everyone’s losses are reasonable. One which is going be the most likely outcome anyways, the only question is how many people will die and how weakened will Russia be by the time this inevitability is realised.

    The longer it goes, the more Russia (and of course Ukraine) suffers and the more China benefits.

    But spite is a powerful thing, Ukraine suffers even more. Putin’s behavior is in some ways similar to that of a bitter person in a divorce who bankrupts both himself and his ex (to the benefit of both sides’ attorneys) out of a useless and spiteful struggle.

    Putin will eventually have to make a choice about whether he hates idea of Russia losing Ukraine forever more than he loves Russia.


    To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US
     
    As I said, the odds of Ukraine joining NATO have improved as a result of the Russian invasion but are still well below 50%. The invasion has shown that Ukrainians are willing and able to fight and has resulted in a large, powerful and experienced military that would be an asset for NATO. But for reasons you described, America probably won’t go for it. The alternative would be Ukraine as an independent friendly power, either with its own nuke deterrent or with some kind of deadly drone deterrent. Something like what Sweden could have been during the Cold War when it was neutral but contemplating nukes.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process? This has always been a risk and some in Russia would not be surprised. I think Russia would tend to ignore such a move. Then NATO would rattle her sabers and Russia will simply say that NATO attacks will lead to nuclear retaliatory strikes (probably in Ukraine).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process?

    Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I've explained this a billion times. There isn't a hierarchy that can just overrule the other states. It could be the most democratic military alliance ever created. Probably too democratic.

    There still isn't agreement on if they want Ukraine in NATO.

    Hungary looks like a no vote at this time.

    Makes more sense to use NATO as a bargaining chip. They could make a deal where they add neutrality to their constitution while the West loads them up with weapons. Putin wants to save face at this point and doesn't have marching on Kiev dreams like his fans. Larry C Bootlicker this year said that Russia will eventually be in Kiev. Hilarious. How would they occupy a hostile city of that size? With North Korean troops? Maybe get some T2 factories going as well. Let's have cyborgs and North Koreans battle Ukrainians and French in year 10 of the 2.5 week Special Military Operation.

    Replies: @Sean

  263. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Looks familiar. I think that building was blown up by a Russian glide bomb or Iskander a few weeks ago.

    You are probably thinking of the building that was blown up by IDF.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No I am saying you are probably thinking of a video where the IDF blew up a building that was similar.

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Why would the Ukrainians fake such a video when they blow up something every other day? You are still trying to delude yourself over this war. It isn't going as planned and the Ukrainians are not only able to blow up buildings but they have attacked targets deep inside Russia.

    Here is another M2 going boom

    https://youtu.be/clmgE4vqljg?t=29

    Replies: @Derer, @QCIC

  264. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No I am saying you are probably thinking of a video where the IDF blew up a building that was similar.

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Why would the Ukrainians fake such a video when they blow up something every other day? You are still trying to delude yourself over this war. It isn’t going as planned and the Ukrainians are not only able to blow up buildings but they have attacked targets deep inside Russia.

    Here is another M2 going boom

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine is on a failing NATO resuscitation program and you are stupidly delusional portraying rosy picture. What is your point? Are you in charge of your domain or a mental hospital is?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    There is a fog of war so getting reliable information from any side is a challenge.

    Kiev and backers such as yourself have been promoting bogus videos and casualty numbers from the beginning of the SMO. My perception is that initial Russian casualty numbers may have also been understated since they didn't necessarily include all categories such as DPR militia and whatnot. For about the past year and a half I think the Russian numbers of combat progress may be legit (their kills). I don't know if they are publishing their own losses. The Russians accepted or even unilaterally defined the SMO as a grinding war of attrition so they don't really have much to hide.

    It seems clear that Western sanctions and political pressure have worked poorly against Russia. It is also clear that Russia is fighting a campaign designed to minimize Ukrainian civilian casualties while gradually chewing through the AFU.

  265. @QCIC
    @AP

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process? This has always been a risk and some in Russia would not be surprised. I think Russia would tend to ignore such a move. Then NATO would rattle her sabers and Russia will simply say that NATO attacks will lead to nuclear retaliatory strikes (probably in Ukraine).

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process?

    Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I’ve explained this a billion times. There isn’t a hierarchy that can just overrule the other states. It could be the most democratic military alliance ever created. Probably too democratic.

    There still isn’t agreement on if they want Ukraine in NATO.

    Hungary looks like a no vote at this time.

    Makes more sense to use NATO as a bargaining chip. They could make a deal where they add neutrality to their constitution while the West loads them up with weapons. Putin wants to save face at this point and doesn’t have marching on Kiev dreams like his fans. Larry C Bootlicker this year said that Russia will eventually be in Kiev. Hilarious. How would they occupy a hostile city of that size? With North Korean troops? Maybe get some T2 factories going as well. Let’s have cyborgs and North Koreans battle Ukrainians and French in year 10 of the 2.5 week Special Military Operation.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I’ve explained this a billion times. Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I’ve explained this a billion times. There isn’t a hierarchy that can just overrule the other states. It could be the most democratic military alliance ever created. Probably too democratic.
     
    Poland seems to have a surprising amount of pull in Washington and the US taxpayer is funding Nato not the member countries.

    Putin wants to save face at this point and doesn’t have marching on Kiev dreams like his fans.
     
    Zelensky is talking about an agreement to stop targeting each other's energy infrastructure as first step to a ceasefire. Clearly Ukraine wants some kind of a security guarantee. From the US.
  266. Wow, Truman was woker than I thought.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Truman...woker? Sounds to me like he was a a forerunner to Eisenhower, warning about the possible dangers of an over self promoting military industrial complex.

    Replies: @songbird

  267. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Everybody needs to read this book. Your fingertips bit is included as one of dozens of marvels of biology our doctor drug dealers don't bother to learn.

    https://www.amazon.com/Body-Electric-Electromagnetism-Foundation-Life/dp/0688069711

    It's a pity Tennessee flew the coup. His take would have been useful.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The jazz supergroup of the 197o’s, Weather Report, came up with their second album “I Sing the Body Electric’ that included this album cover art (that I’ve always liked). Warning: not the type of jazz to listen to if all that you’ve experienced thus far is “smooth jazz” ala Kenny G.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Weather Report was a gateway drug to modern jazz.

    Terrance McKenna was a fan. The fellow who said humans were invented by the mushroom so that the mushroom could eventually get outside of the galaxy.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a62684718/fungi-mycelium-brains/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  268. @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Indeed Erdogan is the absolute master of highwire. He has free access to the EU market for Turkish industry, he's a NATO member - and at the same time Russis is building his nuclear plants, and he's attending BRICS today.

    https://ecfr.eu/article/building-brics-what-erdogans-geopolitical-gamble-could-mean-for-the-west/


    It is evident that Turkey wants to retain its Western anchor; but also the flexibility to have a foot in each camp. Much like his illiberal counterparts in Serbia, Hungary, and the Gulf Arab monarchies, Erdogan views geopolitics as a constant hedging among great powers. He is skilfully playing off Russia against the West, using both the advantages of NATO membership and his personal rapport with Vladimir Putin to expand Turkey’s economic gains. And Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has allowed Ankara to take this to a new level: Turkey is doubling down on its trade and energy relationship with Moscow while also supporting Ukraine through arms sales, defence industry partnerships – and restricting the Russian navy’s access to the Black Sea.
     

    Replies: @Derer

    Despite your praise, Turkey’s economic position is dismal. They are in NATO only for opportunistic reasons and for the US begging them to stay, despite trading military hardware with Russia (unthinkable for a NATO member). Turkey mostly refuses to participate in any anti Islam campaign, ironically that is high priority for Trump agenda – will see.

  269. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    BAP has been talking about rumours of this funding for a while. Ahmari kept attacking BAP and promoting articles about the dangers of Nietzscheans, BAP would reply in kind at the start of his podcasts. Then the rumours about Soros funding behind Compact started appearing.

    Replies: @songbird, @emil nikola richard

  270. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No I am saying you are probably thinking of a video where the IDF blew up a building that was similar.

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Why would the Ukrainians fake such a video when they blow up something every other day? You are still trying to delude yourself over this war. It isn't going as planned and the Ukrainians are not only able to blow up buildings but they have attacked targets deep inside Russia.

    Here is another M2 going boom

    https://youtu.be/clmgE4vqljg?t=29

    Replies: @Derer, @QCIC

    Ukraine is on a failing NATO resuscitation program and you are stupidly delusional portraying rosy picture. What is your point? Are you in charge of your domain or a mental hospital is?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Ukraine is on a failing NATO resuscitation program and you are stupidly delusional portraying rosy picture.

    How is video of an M2 blowing up a rosy picture? Are you offended by video of the war?

    They really make a nice explosion. Reminds me of a fountain firework.

    What is your point? Are you in charge of your domain or a mental hospital is?

    This is an open thread and you seem a tad sensitive.

    I've noticed that the Putin defenders have had sandy vaginas ever since it was announced that North Korean troops are going to Ukraine. I had one at Unz flip out by a mere link to the report. He accused Ukraine of making it up even though there was video and it was reported by South Korea. Of course he didn't bother to actually read the article and just blocked it out on account of it being unwanted information.

    The same poster doesn't blink at a dozen pro-Russia videos which is a common double standard here. You can post endless videos from Larry C "war is over" Johnson or the prognosticating pederast but actual video of the war is offensive.

  271. @songbird
    Wow, Truman was woker than I thought.
    https://twitter.com/CrankyFed/status/1849238073881604123

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Truman…woker? Sounds to me like he was a a forerunner to Eisenhower, warning about the possible dangers of an over self promoting military industrial complex.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Truman, who got us involved in Korea, warning about the MIC? By calling Dewey Hitler?

    Would guess he was fundraising.

    I wonder if he grew his brief mustache in answer to Dewey's.

  272. @Coconuts
    @AP


    The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so.
     
    Western progressives often present Putler as a kind of fascist and nationalist, who supports the nationalist leaning leaders in the West. In this way they manufacture some soft power for Russia in ways the Russians themselves would probably not be able to achieve if they were consciously trying to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

    Good soft power or bad? Being compared to the likes of Orban, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un can only produce a limited appeal around the world. Oh, and with Orangey here in the US. 🙂

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack


    Good soft power or bad? Being compared to the likes of Orban, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un can only produce a limited appeal around the world. Oh, and with Orangey here in the US.
     
    Well, there are the people who are in favour of demographic change and transexualism, and believe that black people and other ethnic minority groups have a higher level of political consciousness and need to be fast-tracked into positions of power, and they call the people who disagree with them on these issues fascists.

    They also call Putler a fascist, and he is never depicted as supporting any of the positions I just mentioned, so that's how it happens that his image can be indirectly improved (among those who were liable to be labelled as fascist by the progressives at least). Though, at the same time by now it may be being eroded by the length of the war.

    This just appeared in a fairly mainstream British commentary site:

    https://unherd.com/2024/10/would-you-move-to-mother-russia/

    There is some discussion of this issue in it.

  273. @Coconuts
    @AP


    The Western rightoids who shill for Putin are precisely the type who would never fight for their own country and indeed did not do so.
     
    Western progressives often present Putler as a kind of fascist and nationalist, who supports the nationalist leaning leaders in the West. In this way they manufacture some soft power for Russia in ways the Russians themselves would probably not be able to achieve if they were consciously trying to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

    In this way they (Western leaders) manufacture some soft power for Russia

    Who are those Western leaders and what they manufacture?

    Putin is Russian nationalist and rightfully so against the Western vultures with huge appetite for Russian resources. They will die without satisfying their appetite – too bad.

  274. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Are you saying the IDF blew up a building in Europe?

    No I am saying you are probably thinking of a video where the IDF blew up a building that was similar.

    No, the building I am thinking of was in Eastern Ukraine or Kursk. Maybe just a similar looking building or maybe your video is fake.

    Why would the Ukrainians fake such a video when they blow up something every other day? You are still trying to delude yourself over this war. It isn't going as planned and the Ukrainians are not only able to blow up buildings but they have attacked targets deep inside Russia.

    Here is another M2 going boom

    https://youtu.be/clmgE4vqljg?t=29

    Replies: @Derer, @QCIC

    There is a fog of war so getting reliable information from any side is a challenge.

    Kiev and backers such as yourself have been promoting bogus videos and casualty numbers from the beginning of the SMO. My perception is that initial Russian casualty numbers may have also been understated since they didn’t necessarily include all categories such as DPR militia and whatnot. For about the past year and a half I think the Russian numbers of combat progress may be legit (their kills). I don’t know if they are publishing their own losses. The Russians accepted or even unilaterally defined the SMO as a grinding war of attrition so they don’t really have much to hide.

    It seems clear that Western sanctions and political pressure have worked poorly against Russia. It is also clear that Russia is fighting a campaign designed to minimize Ukrainian civilian casualties while gradually chewing through the AFU.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  275. @Sean
    @AP


    Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it’s going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. ...] So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.
     
    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia's military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin's Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.

    America wants a balanced regional systems of forces across the globe. If it gets that in Europe it can concentrate on setting up something similar in East Asia. Then it can be an offshore balancer to tip the scales when absolutely necessary. To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US.

    In my opinion, Russia's very fragility is their ace in the hole. Whether he realises the reason for it or not, Putin's best strategy (and probable instinctive inclination) is to continue levying war on Ukraine until the very last extremity is reached for Russia, then show willing to go beyond that point and run Russia completely into the ground, thereby putting America on the horns of a dilemma..

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Beckow

    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West. As the world started to form into two blocks the West foolishly dropped Russia and forced it to become a leading power in the Anti-Western block. This helps China, India, Middle East rising countries, etc…to the extent they never could had hoped for.

    It is too late, the irrational hatred by so many on the West for “Russia” has shifted the balance. Russia has 1/4 of the global natural resources – sooner or later the West will need them. Russia is also the only really powerful non-Western military force. Adding Russia to the non-Western block will over time be a catastrophe for the West.

    It was done out of ethnic hatred and greed. The expansion of NATO to Ukraine was an unnecessary self-defeating error. The result is that the West will be permanently weaker and the anti-Western block has been dramatically strengthened.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow


    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West.
     
    You maybe might ought to look at one of these.

    https://centerpointsecurities.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/SP-500-Index-Historical-Chart.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

  276. Have read The Stainless Steel Rat (1957), by Harry Harrison, recommended to me by commenter Mr. Hack-A123.

    I liked it. Mildly comedic. No obvious woke politics.

    By the ’50s, a lot scifi was already woke, in some manner.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird


    commenter Mr. Hack-A123.
     
    Aaaarrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!! [MORE]

    PEACE 😇



    https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y54bNi0kU0oj6/giphy.gif

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  277. It’s growing.

    Compare Xi and Putin front center to Donald the Fat and Willie Brown’s skank ho. : (

  278. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Of course, the best way to entice Russia to be a counterweight is genuinely repairing relations. Now that the Russia, Russia, Russia myth is fully debunked, expect Trump’s 2nd term to take this approach. Sharply reducing (or fully eliminating) support for Kiev aggression would be an obvious first step.

    I don't think you understand how the US government works.

    The massive aid to Ukraine bill has already been signed into law.

    He can't go in and undo it.

    The main US artillery factory will be churning out shells for Ukraine next year and it won't matter who is president.

    Replies: @A123

    The massive aid to Ukraine bill has already been signed into law.

    He can’t go in and undo it.

    I don’t think you understand how the U.S. government works.

    Most of the money will be spent and supplies delivered before Trump is sworn in IIRC $50B+ of the 60B. Anything left in February can be repurposed to the extent that the law allows.

    For example, Mobile Army Surgical Hospital [MASH] units are expensive military kit with no offensive potential. Who could argue with helping injured troops?

    Some of it could be programmed into things that Führer Zelensky has asked for, such as Patriot interceptors. That could easily chew up $1B and provides little opportunity for aggression. And, we might even get some back when the batteries are returned after Kiev capitulates.

    The main US artillery factory will be churning out shells for Ukraine next year and it won’t matter who is president.

    They can churn out those shells to restock severely depleted American military depots. There is no need to send them to Kiev.

    PEACE 😇

  279. @songbird
    Have read The Stainless Steel Rat (1957), by Harry Harrison, recommended to me by commenter Mr. Hack-A123.

    I liked it. Mildly comedic. No obvious woke politics.

    By the '50s, a lot scifi was already woke, in some manner.

    Replies: @A123

    commenter Mr. Hack-A123.

    Aaaarrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!! [MORE]

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

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    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Please suspend your commenting and find us a current swimsuit photograph for Tulsi Gabbard.

  280. @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    The jazz supergroup of the 197o's, Weather Report, came up with their second album "I Sing the Body Electric' that included this album cover art (that I've always liked). Warning: not the type of jazz to listen to if all that you've experienced thus far is "smooth jazz" ala Kenny G.

    https://therockpedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/I-Sing-the-Body-Electric-1972-by-Weather-Report.webp

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Weather Report was a gateway drug to modern jazz.

    Terrance McKenna was a fan. The fellow who said humans were invented by the mushroom so that the mushroom could eventually get outside of the galaxy.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a62684718/fungi-mycelium-brains/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    Weather Report are one of many jazz and rock super groups from that era that laid a permanent genetic imprint on much great music that followed. Other groups that were equally good and important were Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Santana, the Headhunters, Jean-Luc Ponty, Larry Coryell, Frank Zappa and many others. It was an interesting time in new adventuring and "fusion" was the byword and passport to new horizons. Have you ever listened to any of these artists and their music? Do you appreciate any of it?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  281. @A123
    @songbird


    commenter Mr. Hack-A123.
     
    Aaaarrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!! [MORE]

    PEACE 😇



    https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y54bNi0kU0oj6/giphy.gif

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Please suspend your commenting and find us a current swimsuit photograph for Tulsi Gabbard.

  282. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Truman...woker? Sounds to me like he was a a forerunner to Eisenhower, warning about the possible dangers of an over self promoting military industrial complex.

    Replies: @songbird

    Truman, who got us involved in Korea, warning about the MIC? By calling Dewey Hitler?

    Would guess he was fundraising.

    I wonder if he grew his brief mustache in answer to Dewey’s.

  283. @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    Good soft power or bad? Being compared to the likes of Orban, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un can only produce a limited appeal around the world. Oh, and with Orangey here in the US. :-)

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Good soft power or bad? Being compared to the likes of Orban, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un can only produce a limited appeal around the world. Oh, and with Orangey here in the US.

    Well, there are the people who are in favour of demographic change and transexualism, and believe that black people and other ethnic minority groups have a higher level of political consciousness and need to be fast-tracked into positions of power, and they call the people who disagree with them on these issues fascists.

    They also call Putler a fascist, and he is never depicted as supporting any of the positions I just mentioned, so that’s how it happens that his image can be indirectly improved (among those who were liable to be labelled as fascist by the progressives at least). Though, at the same time by now it may be being eroded by the length of the war.

    This just appeared in a fairly mainstream British commentary site:

    https://unherd.com/2024/10/would-you-move-to-mother-russia/

    There is some discussion of this issue in it.

  284. @Beckow
    @Sean

    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West. As the world started to form into two blocks the West foolishly dropped Russia and forced it to become a leading power in the Anti-Western block. This helps China, India, Middle East rising countries, etc...to the extent they never could had hoped for.

    It is too late, the irrational hatred by so many on the West for "Russia" has shifted the balance. Russia has 1/4 of the global natural resources - sooner or later the West will need them. Russia is also the only really powerful non-Western military force. Adding Russia to the non-Western block will over time be a catastrophe for the West.

    It was done out of ethnic hatred and greed. The expansion of NATO to Ukraine was an unnecessary self-defeating error. The result is that the West will be permanently weaker and the anti-Western block has been dramatically strengthened.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West.

    You maybe might ought to look at one of these.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @emil nikola richard

    The Fed is pumping money like there is no tomorrow, it has to go somewhere, stocks, real estate...

    There is more than sufficient supply of the basic consumer goods, food, energy... so that inflation can be controlled. But the castles-in-the-sky assets based on the unlimited virtual money can only go on for so long. Even you must know that.

    In the meantime it is a lot of fun...:)

    Replies: @LondonBob

  285. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I wonder how Russia will respond if NATO secretly changes her own rules and brings in Ukraine with a snap process?

    Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I've explained this a billion times. There isn't a hierarchy that can just overrule the other states. It could be the most democratic military alliance ever created. Probably too democratic.

    There still isn't agreement on if they want Ukraine in NATO.

    Hungary looks like a no vote at this time.

    Makes more sense to use NATO as a bargaining chip. They could make a deal where they add neutrality to their constitution while the West loads them up with weapons. Putin wants to save face at this point and doesn't have marching on Kiev dreams like his fans. Larry C Bootlicker this year said that Russia will eventually be in Kiev. Hilarious. How would they occupy a hostile city of that size? With North Korean troops? Maybe get some T2 factories going as well. Let's have cyborgs and North Koreans battle Ukrainians and French in year 10 of the 2.5 week Special Military Operation.

    Replies: @Sean

    Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I’ve explained this a billion times. Will not happen due to how NATO is structured. I’ve explained this a billion times. There isn’t a hierarchy that can just overrule the other states. It could be the most democratic military alliance ever created. Probably too democratic.

    Poland seems to have a surprising amount of pull in Washington and the US taxpayer is funding Nato not the member countries.

    Putin wants to save face at this point and doesn’t have marching on Kiev dreams like his fans.

    Zelensky is talking about an agreement to stop targeting each other’s energy infrastructure as first step to a ceasefire. Clearly Ukraine wants some kind of a security guarantee. From the US.

  286. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Wouldn't surprise me, if some of these atagonisms were already built in. Though neocon does seem like kind of an odd position for a Iranian, but maybe not, if they are blindingly antiregime. Though, $200,000 would be considered a lot of money at a place like Countercurrents

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Wouldn’t surprise me, if some of these atagonisms were already built in. Though neocon does seem like kind of an odd position for a Iranian, but maybe not, if they are blindingly antiregime.

    Compact is a kind of post-liberal magazine, it is conservative but tended to be more left-wing economically and promoted workers’ rights, it was favourable to immigration but only if it came from more traditional countries etc. Ahmari is a convert to Catholicism. BAP used to say that its main purpose was to suck energy out of the radical right space by distraction onto these themes, if Soros was funding it this could be true. I sometimes looked at it but it never seemed that interesting.

    • Thanks: songbird
  287. @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow


    No matter how we look at it this has been a strategic disaster for the West.
     
    You maybe might ought to look at one of these.

    https://centerpointsecurities.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/SP-500-Index-Historical-Chart.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    The Fed is pumping money like there is no tomorrow, it has to go somewhere, stocks, real estate…

    There is more than sufficient supply of the basic consumer goods, food, energy… so that inflation can be controlled. But the castles-in-the-sky assets based on the unlimited virtual money can only go on for so long. Even you must know that.

    In the meantime it is a lot of fun…:)

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Very loose fiscal policy normally requires a tight monetary policy.

    US Treasury yields, gold and the S&P are all soaring, not good.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  288. https://photo-summit.brics-russia2024.ru/en/story/list_351011332/

    The negro to the left of Putin in the brics group photo is South Africa. Left from his point of view. Your right.

    I don’t know who the woman is in the rear.

  289. @AP
    @Sean


    I agree with US support continuing to more or less match and nullify any supplementary effort Putin makes, he cannot really win no matter how much he amps up Russia’s military effort at the expense of the viability of the Russian state. Yet there is the other side of the coin inasmuch were Putin’s Russia to carry on regardless of the correlation of forces over-against it and go all in to win the SMO, then beating Russia in Ukraine will entail breaking it forever after as a handily located great power that America could use as a counterweight to a future mega power China.
     
    That is, indeed, the dilemma. Putin can’t win but won’t (for now) accept a stalemate where everyone’s losses are reasonable. One which is going be the most likely outcome anyways, the only question is how many people will die and how weakened will Russia be by the time this inevitability is realised.

    The longer it goes, the more Russia (and of course Ukraine) suffers and the more China benefits.

    But spite is a powerful thing, Ukraine suffers even more. Putin’s behavior is in some ways similar to that of a bitter person in a divorce who bankrupts both himself and his ex (to the benefit of both sides’ attorneys) out of a useless and spiteful struggle.

    Putin will eventually have to make a choice about whether he hates idea of Russia losing Ukraine forever more than he loves Russia.


    To have forces tied down in or around Ukraine is the very opposite. Washington ending up with a sizable commitment of military forces to defend Ukraine, which would be necessary were Ukraine to become a Nato member because even a broken Russia would still be an immensely powerful threat to Ukraine, would be a disaster for the US
     
    As I said, the odds of Ukraine joining NATO have improved as a result of the Russian invasion but are still well below 50%. The invasion has shown that Ukrainians are willing and able to fight and has resulted in a large, powerful and experienced military that would be an asset for NATO. But for reasons you described, America probably won’t go for it. The alternative would be Ukraine as an independent friendly power, either with its own nuke deterrent or with some kind of deadly drone deterrent. Something like what Sweden could have been during the Cold War when it was neutral but contemplating nukes.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Can you summarize or at least list what you consider to be the interesting points?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    Too long so I skimmed it. The guy is an Obamaite on foreign policy, so isn't worth much. Karlin's comment in response was better.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  290. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    What do you think of this article, AP?

    https://www.philippelemoine.com/p/the-russo-ukrainian-war-and-the-end

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Can you summarize or at least list what you consider to be the interesting points?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    That time is on Russia's side and that Ukraine should thus compromise and make a peace deal while it still can because a peace deal in the future will be even worse for it.

    , @Beckow
    @QCIC

    It's a good article showing where we are heading. The advise to negotiate now is obvious. But it takes two to talk so it may be of no value, they burnt the bridges with Russia.

    I found this in the article to be most salient:


    the claim that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine had “nothing to do” with NATO is preposterous, but has become a dogma in the West. In order to defend it, people even misrepresent what Putin says but that doesn’t make this dogma any less absurd.
     
    It is a pointless ostrich behavior not worthy of rational minds. How is it possible in supposedly open, free and rational West? Is it mental entropy?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  291. Have been belatedly investigating AP’s claim that the hip hop band House of Pain was Irish and found it wanting.

    One of the three was a Latvian-born Latvian.

    Schrody, the frontman, to the best of my knowledge has a German surname, not at all appearing on the Irish census of 1901. Perhaps, he has fractional descent? But that just opens questions about the guy with the Irish surname.

    In conclusion, the band seems more Latvian or even German. Btw, I recall Shrody more from his solo career, where he achieved more degeneracy, not grounded by the guy with the Irish surname.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
  292. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Can you summarize or at least list what you consider to be the interesting points?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    That time is on Russia’s side and that Ukraine should thus compromise and make a peace deal while it still can because a peace deal in the future will be even worse for it.

  293. Aren’t most modern TVs smart TVs? IMO, they should have some open source program, for training the very elderly to navigate using remotes.

  294. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine is on a failing NATO resuscitation program and you are stupidly delusional portraying rosy picture. What is your point? Are you in charge of your domain or a mental hospital is?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ukraine is on a failing NATO resuscitation program and you are stupidly delusional portraying rosy picture.

    How is video of an M2 blowing up a rosy picture? Are you offended by video of the war?

    They really make a nice explosion. Reminds me of a fountain firework.

    What is your point? Are you in charge of your domain or a mental hospital is?

    This is an open thread and you seem a tad sensitive.

    I’ve noticed that the Putin defenders have had sandy vaginas ever since it was announced that North Korean troops are going to Ukraine. I had one at Unz flip out by a mere link to the report. He accused Ukraine of making it up even though there was video and it was reported by South Korea. Of course he didn’t bother to actually read the article and just blocked it out on account of it being unwanted information.

    The same poster doesn’t blink at a dozen pro-Russia videos which is a common double standard here. You can post endless videos from Larry C “war is over” Johnson or the prognosticating pederast but actual video of the war is offensive.

  295. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Can you summarize or at least list what you consider to be the interesting points?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    It’s a good article showing where we are heading. The advise to negotiate now is obvious. But it takes two to talk so it may be of no value, they burnt the bridges with Russia.

    I found this in the article to be most salient:

    the claim that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine had “nothing to do” with NATO is preposterous, but has become a dogma in the West. In order to defend it, people even misrepresent what Putin says but that doesn’t make this dogma any less absurd.

    It is a pointless ostrich behavior not worthy of rational minds. How is it possible in supposedly open, free and rational West? Is it mental entropy?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow

    It's a cover for the real story which is top secret. Obviously I do not know the top secret real story. I presume it has something to do with slaughtering hapless Ukraine infantry until none are left while some old, alcoholic, impotent, rich fuck-heads make money selling armaments.

    Did you ever read the Tim Cook piece in Fortune or Forbes where he has the new wonder weapons winning the Ukraine war? He claimed the surveillance tech was going to have every Russian combatant identified and tracked 24/7.

    Replies: @Beckow

  296. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    It's a good article showing where we are heading. The advise to negotiate now is obvious. But it takes two to talk so it may be of no value, they burnt the bridges with Russia.

    I found this in the article to be most salient:


    the claim that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine had “nothing to do” with NATO is preposterous, but has become a dogma in the West. In order to defend it, people even misrepresent what Putin says but that doesn’t make this dogma any less absurd.
     
    It is a pointless ostrich behavior not worthy of rational minds. How is it possible in supposedly open, free and rational West? Is it mental entropy?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    It’s a cover for the real story which is top secret. Obviously I do not know the top secret real story. I presume it has something to do with slaughtering hapless Ukraine infantry until none are left while some old, alcoholic, impotent, rich fuck-heads make money selling armaments.

    Did you ever read the Tim Cook piece in Fortune or Forbes where he has the new wonder weapons winning the Ukraine war? He claimed the surveillance tech was going to have every Russian combatant identified and tracked 24/7.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @emil nikola richard


    ...top secret real story...has something to do with slaughtering hapless Ukraine infantry until none are left while some old...rich fuck-heads make money selling armaments.
     
    Something like that. Behind them are the dreamers taking out their maps after a Georgetown dinner: Russia surrounded with missile bases, NATO navy in Crimea, newly empty lands - you can settle surplus migrants or create a second homeland for the Jews. Maybe both.

    The possibilities on the map are endless...but the dead Ukies are not, they will eventually run out of them and Darwin heirs will celebrate. There are no 'wonder' weapons to make the dream happen - they forgot to tell the hapless Ukies.

  297. @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Weather Report was a gateway drug to modern jazz.

    Terrance McKenna was a fan. The fellow who said humans were invented by the mushroom so that the mushroom could eventually get outside of the galaxy.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a62684718/fungi-mycelium-brains/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Weather Report are one of many jazz and rock super groups from that era that laid a permanent genetic imprint on much great music that followed. Other groups that were equally good and important were Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Santana, the Headhunters, Jean-Luc Ponty, Larry Coryell, Frank Zappa and many others. It was an interesting time in new adventuring and “fusion” was the byword and passport to new horizons. Have you ever listened to any of these artists and their music? Do you appreciate any of it?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    This is the best Zappa.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkppN14ugMo

    Zappa hated hippies and did not consider that coffee and cigarettes were mind altering substance. Mahavishnu John McLaughlin nursed Santana off cocaine addiction and saved his life. This album is like a miracle baby.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtyJRW3_JsQ

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  298. @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    Weather Report are one of many jazz and rock super groups from that era that laid a permanent genetic imprint on much great music that followed. Other groups that were equally good and important were Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Santana, the Headhunters, Jean-Luc Ponty, Larry Coryell, Frank Zappa and many others. It was an interesting time in new adventuring and "fusion" was the byword and passport to new horizons. Have you ever listened to any of these artists and their music? Do you appreciate any of it?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    This is the best Zappa.

    Zappa hated hippies and did not consider that coffee and cigarettes were mind altering substance. Mahavishnu John McLaughlin nursed Santana off cocaine addiction and saved his life. This album is like a miracle baby.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    I own a lot of Frank Zappa CD's and am beyond the point of trying to pick the very best within his entire catalog (I know a guy whose collection includes everything ever produced, probably some bootleg copies of stuff too, 300+). But I'll definitely give the tune you've posted a twirl.

    I'm quite familiar with the Mcglaughlin/Santana collaboration album. As a young man, I worked part time at a Ukrainian sausage company that would often precipitate visits to the meat cooler. The guy who ran the cooler had it rigged up with a cheap stereo system and for a few months played nothing but this album, very loudly. He had developed a simple but effective system within where he could "smoke some dope" anytime the urge appeared. And it appeared quite often - as he was one of the biggest dope smoking fiends that I ever knew. He really liked this album, that I'm listening to right now - quite expansive! :-)

  299. @songbird
    Never knew this, but the tips of fingers can grow back naturally in kids.

    Regrowth of the fingertips
    Fingertips, after having been torn off children, have been observed to regrow in less than 8 weeks.[24] However, these fingertips do not look the same, although they do look more appealing than a skin graft or a sewn fingertip. No healing occurs if the tear happens below the nail. This works because the distal phalanges are regenerative in youth, and stem cells in the nails create new tissue that ends up as the fingertip.[25]
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Mr. XYZ, @emil nikola richard, @Barbarossa

    I already knew that because… (drum roll please) I read emil nikola richard’s book recommendation of The Body Electric !

    I you read it you will also discover that salamanders are really neato in ways that I had not hitherto imagined. The science of salamander limb regeneration is extremely fascinating.

    The main moral of the story is that emil has good book recommendations. I don’t believe I’ve had any duds from him.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Barbarossa

    Seems as though there used to be a lot of interest in rays and electric fields, esp. in '30s scifi. and we kind of moved away from that, except for imaging or computing. Perhaps, overlooking some things in the haste to get into chemistry and genetics.

    But this story about electric fields disinfecting wounds recently came to light.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/10/241024130749.htm

    Replies: @Barbarossa

  300. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    What do you think of this article, AP?

    https://www.philippelemoine.com/p/the-russo-ukrainian-war-and-the-end

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Too long so I skimmed it. The guy is an Obamaite on foreign policy, so isn’t worth much. Karlin’s comment in response was better.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Always good to skim if you can't or won't read the whole thing!

    Agreed about Karlin's comment being better.

  301. @Barbarossa
    @songbird

    I already knew that because... (drum roll please) I read emil nikola richard's book recommendation of The Body Electric !

    I you read it you will also discover that salamanders are really neato in ways that I had not hitherto imagined. The science of salamander limb regeneration is extremely fascinating.

    The main moral of the story is that emil has good book recommendations. I don't believe I've had any duds from him.

    Replies: @songbird

    Seems as though there used to be a lot of interest in rays and electric fields, esp. in ’30s scifi. and we kind of moved away from that, except for imaging or computing. Perhaps, overlooking some things in the haste to get into chemistry and genetics.

    But this story about electric fields disinfecting wounds recently came to light.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/10/241024130749.htm

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @songbird

    That looks like an interesting application.
    Robert Becker, who authored The Body Electric was looking at electrical fields for healing and cell regeneration but it makes perfect sense that it could be used for both. He had some particularly interesting applications using an electrified silver mesh to heal bad bone damage. He seemed to have some notable successes.

    It seemed a shame that his ideas weren't pursued more since they seemed to have some very compelling potential.

  302. Is it true Modi never uses railings, and could it be because he is trying not to get Untouchable germs?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    He is owned by the same banks that own us all and he is a cosmopolitan. We cosmopolitans call them cooties. Holding the railing while going down the stairs could save your life. Falling down the stairs is not an insignificant fatal accident mode. Since I am fearful of cooties I just sort of hold my fingertips really close to the thing.

    Replies: @songbird

  303. @songbird
    Is it true Modi never uses railings, and could it be because he is trying not to get Untouchable germs?
    https://twitter.com/RoshanKrRaii/status/1849361251391934468

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    He is owned by the same banks that own us all and he is a cosmopolitan. We cosmopolitans call them cooties. Holding the railing while going down the stairs could save your life. Falling down the stairs is not an insignificant fatal accident mode. Since I am fearful of cooties I just sort of hold my fingertips really close to the thing.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Alternatively, Modi could be concerned about the Sikhs placing bioweapons on the railings.

  304. @songbird
    @Barbarossa

    Seems as though there used to be a lot of interest in rays and electric fields, esp. in '30s scifi. and we kind of moved away from that, except for imaging or computing. Perhaps, overlooking some things in the haste to get into chemistry and genetics.

    But this story about electric fields disinfecting wounds recently came to light.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/10/241024130749.htm

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    That looks like an interesting application.
    Robert Becker, who authored The Body Electric was looking at electrical fields for healing and cell regeneration but it makes perfect sense that it could be used for both. He had some particularly interesting applications using an electrified silver mesh to heal bad bone damage. He seemed to have some notable successes.

    It seemed a shame that his ideas weren’t pursued more since they seemed to have some very compelling potential.

    • Thanks: songbird
  305. @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    This is the best Zappa.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkppN14ugMo

    Zappa hated hippies and did not consider that coffee and cigarettes were mind altering substance. Mahavishnu John McLaughlin nursed Santana off cocaine addiction and saved his life. This album is like a miracle baby.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtyJRW3_JsQ

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I own a lot of Frank Zappa CD’s and am beyond the point of trying to pick the very best within his entire catalog (I know a guy whose collection includes everything ever produced, probably some bootleg copies of stuff too, 300+). But I’ll definitely give the tune you’ve posted a twirl.

    I’m quite familiar with the Mcglaughlin/Santana collaboration album. As a young man, I worked part time at a Ukrainian sausage company that would often precipitate visits to the meat cooler. The guy who ran the cooler had it rigged up with a cheap stereo system and for a few months played nothing but this album, very loudly. He had developed a simple but effective system within where he could “smoke some dope” anytime the urge appeared. And it appeared quite often – as he was one of the biggest dope smoking fiends that I ever knew. He really liked this album, that I’m listening to right now – quite expansive! 🙂

  306. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    Too long so I skimmed it. The guy is an Obamaite on foreign policy, so isn't worth much. Karlin's comment in response was better.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Always good to skim if you can’t or won’t read the whole thing!

    Agreed about Karlin’s comment being better.

  307. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    He is owned by the same banks that own us all and he is a cosmopolitan. We cosmopolitans call them cooties. Holding the railing while going down the stairs could save your life. Falling down the stairs is not an insignificant fatal accident mode. Since I am fearful of cooties I just sort of hold my fingertips really close to the thing.

    Replies: @songbird

    Alternatively, Modi could be concerned about the Sikhs placing bioweapons on the railings.

  308. Another hazard for Thulean to be on the lookout for.

    [MORE]

  309. @Mikel
    @AP

    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka "path to citizenship"). See under More. Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries?

    Admittedly, Trump is a flawed candidate supported by morons who get triggered by someone mentioning his excess weight but the border issue alone merits voting for him in this election.

    If there is any country in the world that can afford the luxury of vetting its immigrants thoroughly it's the US. It's the country that attracts the highest amount of immigrants in the world by far. There's surely hundreds of millions of people who would come to the US if they had the chance so we could be importing top professionals, skilled tradesmen, scientists, businessmen and people who can contribute to make the US even more prosperous. Instead, criminals and low education migrants from the Third World are coming by the millions. Voting for a candidate who enabled that, promises to make them citizens and obviously has zero intention of changing this policy once the election campaign is over is incredibly absurd.


    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849122750125990232
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1849150743863067010

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka “path to citizenship”)

    Here’s the interesting thing. Kamala increases Latin Americanization by eventually giving citizenship to illegals who have lived and worked here illegally for decades. It would be funny if many of these vote Republican, as working class people in America increasingly do. Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions. How did Peronism work for Argentina? MAGAtards are in some ways America’s “shirtless ones.” He’ll bring it here.

    I think the latter is ultimately more harmful.

    Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries

    Why only California? Texas and Florida have also seen their Latino population increase and they have not become California. Florida has become more Republican and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.

    :::::::::

    The border has tightened now, before the election. You shouldn’t take Kamala’s previous policies or statements seriously- like Vance (who had once compared Trump to Hitler), she does what is politically expedient for her. That means tightening the border. A Republican Senate will insure that.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You have a real knack for bad analogies.


    Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions.
     
    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad, government-education unions are staunchly Democrat, most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check), and the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.

    How does that 'merican brain work? From Habsburgs to Ukraine to your own country you seem to get everything wrong...

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.
     
    It's not simply due to White leftists moving to Texas. It's also due to Texas's existing EHC (elite human capital), who often lives in the suburbs, trending much more Democratic over the years and decades. As well as due to cognitively elite immigrants moving to Texas, who often vote Democratic because the Democrats increasingly appeal to educated people nowadays.
  310. @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow

    It's a cover for the real story which is top secret. Obviously I do not know the top secret real story. I presume it has something to do with slaughtering hapless Ukraine infantry until none are left while some old, alcoholic, impotent, rich fuck-heads make money selling armaments.

    Did you ever read the Tim Cook piece in Fortune or Forbes where he has the new wonder weapons winning the Ukraine war? He claimed the surveillance tech was going to have every Russian combatant identified and tracked 24/7.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …top secret real story…has something to do with slaughtering hapless Ukraine infantry until none are left while some old…rich fuck-heads make money selling armaments.

    Something like that. Behind them are the dreamers taking out their maps after a Georgetown dinner: Russia surrounded with missile bases, NATO navy in Crimea, newly empty lands – you can settle surplus migrants or create a second homeland for the Jews. Maybe both.

    The possibilities on the map are endless…but the dead Ukies are not, they will eventually run out of them and Darwin heirs will celebrate. There are no ‘wonder’ weapons to make the dream happen – they forgot to tell the hapless Ukies.

  311. @AP
    @Mikel


    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka “path to citizenship”)
     
    Here’s the interesting thing. Kamala increases Latin Americanization by eventually giving citizenship to illegals who have lived and worked here illegally for decades. It would be funny if many of these vote Republican, as working class people in America increasingly do. Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions. How did Peronism work for Argentina? MAGAtards are in some ways America’s “shirtless ones.” He’ll bring it here.

    I think the latter is ultimately more harmful.

    Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries
     
    Why only California? Texas and Florida have also seen their Latino population increase and they have not become California. Florida has become more Republican and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.

    :::::::::

    The border has tightened now, before the election. You shouldn’t take Kamala’s previous policies or statements seriously- like Vance (who had once compared Trump to Hitler), she does what is politically expedient for her. That means tightening the border. A Republican Senate will insure that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    You have a real knack for bad analogies.

    Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions.

    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad, government-education unions are staunchly Democrat, most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check), and the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.

    How does that ‘merican brain work? From Habsburgs to Ukraine to your own country you seem to get everything wrong…

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow


    You have a real knack for bad analogies.
     
    But he's showing that, once you have decided to commit a bad action, the human brain is amazingly skillful at rationalizing how it's not so bad after all. Kamala is going to be better than Trump at preventing the Latin-Americanization of the US, the border, the economy,... she'll even turn out to be better for the future of the Republican party! LOL

    Btw, my wife spends lots of time helping Latin Americans who don't speak English communicate with utilities, schools, corporations, etc. It's almost become a part-time job. Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don't need at all. But one thing she never does is donate to food banks. These people come here as "refugees" but they get jobs and make very decent money from day one. They are very well connected with each other, which not only helps them get jobs easily but also to learn about any welfare program they can exploit.

    While some legacy Americans refuse to accept welfare out of shame and dignity, they don't hesitate to get as much food as they can from the food banks, even when they have 2 or 3 jobs, because the naive people running these charities will never refuse to serve a brown person who shows up with a refugee card. The future AP is voting for looks great indeed.

    It's not only their culture, it's what polls everywhere show: Latams favor socialism and find traditional American values totally alien. The party AP is voting for knows very well why they want more of them to come:



    https://twitter.com/Rothmus/status/1849549620793442385

    Replies: @Matra, @AP

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad
     
    Trump supported the stimulus checks.

    government-education unions are staunchly Democrat
     
    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check
     
    If it’s easy to check, then name some. It’s mixed, but the richest of them all, Elon, supports Trump.

    the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.
     
    Trump’s supporters are far more culty than Obama’s ever were. George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ

  312. I like Whyvert, but he occasionally says stuff that really makes me wonder at his origins, like (paraphrasing) “Israel should be encouraged to attack Iran in service to the US.”

    Or “South Korea is dying, they have an inverted population pyramid, but they should be encouraged to fight the Norks in a proxy war in Ukraine.”

    Am thinking he has some sort of connection to Ukraine. Perhaps, is related to Ze.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird


    I like Whyvert, but he occasionally says stuff that really makes me wonder at his origins, like (paraphrasing) “Israel should be encouraged to attack Iran in service to the US.”
     
    How bizarre.

    Israel needs to defend itself from Iranian aggression via their proxies Iranian Hamas and Iranian Hezbollah. Team Harris/Biden has been trying to convince Palestinian Jews to do less not more. How does the term "encouraged" apply in any objective analysis?

    Trump's 2nd term, with the help of other Gulf countries, will rebuild the economic & social containment of Iran's tyrannical theocracy. However, his administration will also discourage attacks that have a significant civilian toll.

    Ultimately, the people of Iran have to turn out the theocracy. The IRGC is no longer particularly revolutionary. It has become steeped in capitalism due to their involvement in State Owned Enterprises. When Khamenei passes, look to the Egypt model. A general, like Abd el-Fattah el-Sisi, will hopefully become head of state. That would eliminate the position of Ayatollah as Supreme Leader.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  313. @songbird
    I like Whyvert, but he occasionally says stuff that really makes me wonder at his origins, like (paraphrasing) "Israel should be encouraged to attack Iran in service to the US."

    Or "South Korea is dying, they have an inverted population pyramid, but they should be encouraged to fight the Norks in a proxy war in Ukraine."

    Am thinking he has some sort of connection to Ukraine. Perhaps, is related to Ze.


    https://twitter.com/whyvert/status/1849096327969525801

    Replies: @A123

    I like Whyvert, but he occasionally says stuff that really makes me wonder at his origins, like (paraphrasing) “Israel should be encouraged to attack Iran in service to the US.”

    How bizarre.

    Israel needs to defend itself from Iranian aggression via their proxies Iranian Hamas and Iranian Hezbollah. Team Harris/Biden has been trying to convince Palestinian Jews to do less not more. How does the term “encouraged” apply in any objective analysis?

    Trump’s 2nd term, with the help of other Gulf countries, will rebuild the economic & social containment of Iran’s tyrannical theocracy. However, his administration will also discourage attacks that have a significant civilian toll.

    Ultimately, the people of Iran have to turn out the theocracy. The IRGC is no longer particularly revolutionary. It has become steeped in capitalism due to their involvement in State Owned Enterprises. When Khamenei passes, look to the Egypt model. A general, like Abd el-Fattah el-Sisi, will hopefully become head of state. That would eliminate the position of Ayatollah as Supreme Leader.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    "Encouraged" seems like a very strange word.

    What does it mean? "Wheedled" or "cheered?" To me, it sounds more like "incentivized.". Which means "Given stuff", which seems to obviate any idea of economy, even if these things had strategic relevance to the US - they don't.

    Whyvert is a very strange one because he promotes the idea of HBD which would seem to prioritize internal problems (just realistic assessment of current times) to external, but, despite this, he seems to be a hawk against, Russia, China, and Iran.

    Replies: @Matra

  314. @Beckow
    @AP

    You have a real knack for bad analogies.


    Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions.
     
    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad, government-education unions are staunchly Democrat, most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check), and the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.

    How does that 'merican brain work? From Habsburgs to Ukraine to your own country you seem to get everything wrong...

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    You have a real knack for bad analogies.

    But he’s showing that, once you have decided to commit a bad action, the human brain is amazingly skillful at rationalizing how it’s not so bad after all. Kamala is going to be better than Trump at preventing the Latin-Americanization of the US, the border, the economy,… she’ll even turn out to be better for the future of the Republican party! LOL

    Btw, my wife spends lots of time helping Latin Americans who don’t speak English communicate with utilities, schools, corporations, etc. It’s almost become a part-time job. Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don’t need at all. But one thing she never does is donate to food banks. These people come here as “refugees” but they get jobs and make very decent money from day one. They are very well connected with each other, which not only helps them get jobs easily but also to learn about any welfare program they can exploit.

    While some legacy Americans refuse to accept welfare out of shame and dignity, they don’t hesitate to get as much food as they can from the food banks, even when they have 2 or 3 jobs, because the naive people running these charities will never refuse to serve a brown person who shows up with a refugee card. The future AP is voting for looks great indeed.

    It’s not only their culture, it’s what polls everywhere show: Latams favor socialism and find traditional American values totally alien. The party AP is voting for knows very well why they want more of them to come:

    [MORE]
    • Replies: @Matra
    @Mikel

    One of my older relatives in Canada did volunteer work at food banks for years after retiring only to quit recently due to the way they were being exploited by immigrants - mostly Indians, they even make shameless YouTube videos in their own languages showing how to take advantage of them. Unfortunately, the across the board collapse in living standards in Canada make it more likely that old stock Canadians and earlier, better behaved, immigrants who've worked all their lives will end up needing such traditional volunteer services just as they're being destroyed by the newcomers.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don’t need at all
     
    Sounds like Trump world. Buying his crypto, his Bibles. The Trumpian Russel Brand is selling magic amulets.
  315. According to the newspapers in TX Donald the Fat is now in Austin and will be on Joe the Bald’s podcast today but they do not have a time. If they smoke dope in front of the camera I’m gonna vote Trump.

  316. If they get really stoned they might acquire the ability to discuss BRICS pay and the end of the dollar.

  317. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    You have a real knack for bad analogies.
     
    But he's showing that, once you have decided to commit a bad action, the human brain is amazingly skillful at rationalizing how it's not so bad after all. Kamala is going to be better than Trump at preventing the Latin-Americanization of the US, the border, the economy,... she'll even turn out to be better for the future of the Republican party! LOL

    Btw, my wife spends lots of time helping Latin Americans who don't speak English communicate with utilities, schools, corporations, etc. It's almost become a part-time job. Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don't need at all. But one thing she never does is donate to food banks. These people come here as "refugees" but they get jobs and make very decent money from day one. They are very well connected with each other, which not only helps them get jobs easily but also to learn about any welfare program they can exploit.

    While some legacy Americans refuse to accept welfare out of shame and dignity, they don't hesitate to get as much food as they can from the food banks, even when they have 2 or 3 jobs, because the naive people running these charities will never refuse to serve a brown person who shows up with a refugee card. The future AP is voting for looks great indeed.

    It's not only their culture, it's what polls everywhere show: Latams favor socialism and find traditional American values totally alien. The party AP is voting for knows very well why they want more of them to come:



    https://twitter.com/Rothmus/status/1849549620793442385

    Replies: @Matra, @AP

    One of my older relatives in Canada did volunteer work at food banks for years after retiring only to quit recently due to the way they were being exploited by immigrants – mostly Indians, they even make shameless YouTube videos in their own languages showing how to take advantage of them. Unfortunately, the across the board collapse in living standards in Canada make it more likely that old stock Canadians and earlier, better behaved, immigrants who’ve worked all their lives will end up needing such traditional volunteer services just as they’re being destroyed by the newcomers.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Matra

    It's depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don't need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors). An old Anglo tradition turned purposeless by a silly migration policy. But at least in this area Indians (mostly recent H1-Bs and their families) seem to be well behaved. You don't hear of the police looking for Indians who have committed silly crimes like road rage attacks while they're always on the lookout for some such Hispanic fugitive.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Matra

  318. Interesting photos in the link below the fold of graduating medical students from a Ukrainian university, temporarily located in Poland. They don’t look like Slavs to me. Wonder how many will stay in Poland or Ukraine?

    [MORE]

    Link

    Also, did you know the Koran is now being taught to prisoners in Poland in some joint programme between a Muslim foundation and prison authorities? Do those famously based Polish conservatives have anything to say about this or the recent plan to build a large mosque in central Warsaw? I’m guessing they just see it as being the price to pay for being NATO/EU members in good standing.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Matra

    The universities generate more income from the foreign students, than from the local students. It's like in Russia, although I somehow doubt more the poor Ukrainian government nowadays includes a lot of scholarships for foreign students. In Russia, the government has a lot of money to give scholarships to give to foreign students.

    In Russia, the mix of the capitalist/socialist model in the universities, creates a situation where the universities generally seem to prioritize a lot of the foreign students above the local students.

    It's typical with the university's housing. The newer or nicer housing will be usually given to the foreign students, who are creating more income for the university than the local students.

    These foreign students almost never would want to continue to live in the country after graduating, although there are a few examples in Russia of famous people descended from foreign students, also even a local politician in Russia who was an African student. Those are famous and emphasized, if we are honest, mainly because they are unusual.

  319. @Beckow
    @AP

    You have a real knack for bad analogies.


    Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions.
     
    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad, government-education unions are staunchly Democrat, most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check), and the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.

    How does that 'merican brain work? From Habsburgs to Ukraine to your own country you seem to get everything wrong...

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad

    Trump supported the stimulus checks.

    government-education unions are staunchly Democrat

    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check

    If it’s easy to check, then name some. It’s mixed, but the richest of them all, Elon, supports Trump.

    the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.

    Trump’s supporters are far more culty than Obama’s ever were. George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    The teamsters wouldn't endorse Trump even though a majority of its members voted for him.

    I support unions but f-ck the teamsters. A completely bloated bureaucracy that is in bed with the Democrats.

    Don't endorse anyone if you are going to have double standards.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?
     
    So, he's basically a more morally flawed Black Jesus, but without an alleged Resurrection?
  320. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    You have a real knack for bad analogies.
     
    But he's showing that, once you have decided to commit a bad action, the human brain is amazingly skillful at rationalizing how it's not so bad after all. Kamala is going to be better than Trump at preventing the Latin-Americanization of the US, the border, the economy,... she'll even turn out to be better for the future of the Republican party! LOL

    Btw, my wife spends lots of time helping Latin Americans who don't speak English communicate with utilities, schools, corporations, etc. It's almost become a part-time job. Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don't need at all. But one thing she never does is donate to food banks. These people come here as "refugees" but they get jobs and make very decent money from day one. They are very well connected with each other, which not only helps them get jobs easily but also to learn about any welfare program they can exploit.

    While some legacy Americans refuse to accept welfare out of shame and dignity, they don't hesitate to get as much food as they can from the food banks, even when they have 2 or 3 jobs, because the naive people running these charities will never refuse to serve a brown person who shows up with a refugee card. The future AP is voting for looks great indeed.

    It's not only their culture, it's what polls everywhere show: Latams favor socialism and find traditional American values totally alien. The party AP is voting for knows very well why they want more of them to come:



    https://twitter.com/Rothmus/status/1849549620793442385

    Replies: @Matra, @AP

    Their lack of English combined with low education levels makes them very susceptible to scams and abuses, such as being sold expensive phone plans or car insurance that they don’t need at all

    Sounds like Trump world. Buying his crypto, his Bibles. The Trumpian Russel Brand is selling magic amulets.

  321. One again, there’s no “stalemate”, as Russia’s military and economy have dramatically improved since 2/24/22 with the other side (Kiev regime and its main backers) going in reverse.

    Post-Soviet Russia never sought to take all of Ukraine. Kiev regime and its backers are responsible for Ukraine’s loss of population and territory. Related:

    https://www.rt.com/news/606426-zelensky-ukraine-un-guterres-visit/

    https://www.rt.com/news/606433-brics-serbia-vulin-isolation/

    https://www.rt.com/news/606423-polish-fm-germany-benefits-ukrainian-refugees/

  322. @A123
    @songbird


    I like Whyvert, but he occasionally says stuff that really makes me wonder at his origins, like (paraphrasing) “Israel should be encouraged to attack Iran in service to the US.”
     
    How bizarre.

    Israel needs to defend itself from Iranian aggression via their proxies Iranian Hamas and Iranian Hezbollah. Team Harris/Biden has been trying to convince Palestinian Jews to do less not more. How does the term "encouraged" apply in any objective analysis?

    Trump's 2nd term, with the help of other Gulf countries, will rebuild the economic & social containment of Iran's tyrannical theocracy. However, his administration will also discourage attacks that have a significant civilian toll.

    Ultimately, the people of Iran have to turn out the theocracy. The IRGC is no longer particularly revolutionary. It has become steeped in capitalism due to their involvement in State Owned Enterprises. When Khamenei passes, look to the Egypt model. A general, like Abd el-Fattah el-Sisi, will hopefully become head of state. That would eliminate the position of Ayatollah as Supreme Leader.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    “Encouraged” seems like a very strange word.

    What does it mean? “Wheedled” or “cheered?” To me, it sounds more like “incentivized.”. Which means “Given stuff”, which seems to obviate any idea of economy, even if these things had strategic relevance to the US – they don’t.

    Whyvert is a very strange one because he promotes the idea of HBD which would seem to prioritize internal problems (just realistic assessment of current times) to external, but, despite this, he seems to be a hawk against, Russia, China, and Iran.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @songbird

    I've always assumed Whyvert came from a Scandinavian background but it's possible I'm mixing him up with Emil Kirkegaard, the Danish HBDer, who writes about similar topics. Since the Ukraine war began I've noticed a lot of overlap on foreign policy between Scandi right wingers and Jewish hawks.

    Replies: @songbird

  323. @songbird
    @A123

    "Encouraged" seems like a very strange word.

    What does it mean? "Wheedled" or "cheered?" To me, it sounds more like "incentivized.". Which means "Given stuff", which seems to obviate any idea of economy, even if these things had strategic relevance to the US - they don't.

    Whyvert is a very strange one because he promotes the idea of HBD which would seem to prioritize internal problems (just realistic assessment of current times) to external, but, despite this, he seems to be a hawk against, Russia, China, and Iran.

    Replies: @Matra

    I’ve always assumed Whyvert came from a Scandinavian background but it’s possible I’m mixing him up with Emil Kirkegaard, the Danish HBDer, who writes about similar topics. Since the Ukraine war began I’ve noticed a lot of overlap on foreign policy between Scandi right wingers and Jewish hawks.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Matra

    I know Finland isn't Scandinavia, but Callum (Britannia channel on YouTube) put out a funny travel video of Finland.

    According to him, they repurposed some EU monument, transforming it into a NATO monument, in part by taking down the Irish flag that was on one of the flagpoles. (Though Ireland does seem to be some kind of NATO vassal these days.)

  324. @Matra
    @Mikel

    One of my older relatives in Canada did volunteer work at food banks for years after retiring only to quit recently due to the way they were being exploited by immigrants - mostly Indians, they even make shameless YouTube videos in their own languages showing how to take advantage of them. Unfortunately, the across the board collapse in living standards in Canada make it more likely that old stock Canadians and earlier, better behaved, immigrants who've worked all their lives will end up needing such traditional volunteer services just as they're being destroyed by the newcomers.

    Replies: @Mikel

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors). An old Anglo tradition turned purposeless by a silly migration policy. But at least in this area Indians (mostly recent H1-Bs and their families) seem to be well behaved. You don’t hear of the police looking for Indians who have committed silly crimes like road rage attacks while they’re always on the lookout for some such Hispanic fugitive.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors).

    That's bullshit.

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They're non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @A123

    , @Matra
    @Mikel

    Below is a video from Alberta featuring a white woman discussing her food bank haul. Clearly not Anglo; one commenter suggests Ukrainian. In just two and a half years in Ireland Ukrainians have acquired a terrible reputation for scamming and general shamelessness. When you import people from corrupt low trust societies they bring their values with them.



    https://twitter.com/TheBlackHorse65/status/1849962754829934938

    Replies: @AP

  325. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad
     
    Trump supported the stimulus checks.

    government-education unions are staunchly Democrat
     
    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check
     
    If it’s easy to check, then name some. It’s mixed, but the richest of them all, Elon, supports Trump.

    the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.
     
    Trump’s supporters are far more culty than Obama’s ever were. George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ

    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    The teamsters wouldn’t endorse Trump even though a majority of its members voted for him.

    I support unions but f-ck the teamsters. A completely bloated bureaucracy that is in bed with the Democrats.

    Don’t endorse anyone if you are going to have double standards.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    So was it just a very intricate form of Teamster double talk when head teamster President Sean O'Brien stood up in front of Trump's Republican Convention and heartily gave his endorsement to Trump?

    https://youtu.be/0pDnocISOKc

    Replies: @John Johnson

  326. @Mikel
    @Matra

    It's depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don't need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors). An old Anglo tradition turned purposeless by a silly migration policy. But at least in this area Indians (mostly recent H1-Bs and their families) seem to be well behaved. You don't hear of the police looking for Indians who have committed silly crimes like road rage attacks while they're always on the lookout for some such Hispanic fugitive.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Matra

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors).

    That’s bullshit.

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They’re non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime to help settle those Africans in puff-jacket hoodies one sees milling about in these small NH towns that had their heyday in the 19th century. Leaning against brick walls or pregnant and pushing double-strollers. In many cases, it looks like they just spat out their khat, and set down their AK-47 a moment ago.

    Every charity is basically compromised against the donors actually helping their own kind. But each is actually a demographic tool against them.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Why would you even care about food banks?
     
    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @A123
    @John Johnson


    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They’re non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.
     

    Mikel is an open anti-White racist. Add this to his list of #NeverMAGA failings.

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I really do not understand the Mikel's pathology of "Vote Blue, No Matter Who". It seems insane, yet there it is.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

  327. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors).

    That's bullshit.

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They're non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @A123

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime to help settle those Africans in puff-jacket hoodies one sees milling about in these small NH towns that had their heyday in the 19th century. Leaning against brick walls or pregnant and pushing double-strollers. In many cases, it looks like they just spat out their khat, and set down their AK-47 a moment ago.

    Every charity is basically compromised against the donors actually helping their own kind. But each is actually a demographic tool against them.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime

    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.

    The drawings were probably the work of volunteer White female liberals. It's not a conspiracy. Lutherans do that all the time. They make multi-cult brochures even if the recipients are White. White women with masters degrees in philanthropy need to feel like they are pushing the agenda. They buy into Wakanda theory and want to feel like they are doing their part to fix what they believe is caused by their bloodline.

    53 million people used food banks and pantries in 2021
    https://www.feedingamerica.org/about-us/press-room/53-million-received-help-2021

    I would go stand outside a food bank in rural America and take a look at the people. You will see hard working people that are embarrassed to be there.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

  328. OK this is good. Who knows the accuracy but it’s worth hearing. In the 12-15 minute interval.

    Jalaluddin Rumi as proto P Diddy. Google search on this string from my computer gets nothing.

    My sources are unreliable, but their information is fascinating.

  329. @songbird
    @John Johnson

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime to help settle those Africans in puff-jacket hoodies one sees milling about in these small NH towns that had their heyday in the 19th century. Leaning against brick walls or pregnant and pushing double-strollers. In many cases, it looks like they just spat out their khat, and set down their AK-47 a moment ago.

    Every charity is basically compromised against the donors actually helping their own kind. But each is actually a demographic tool against them.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime

    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.

    The drawings were probably the work of volunteer White female liberals. It’s not a conspiracy. Lutherans do that all the time. They make multi-cult brochures even if the recipients are White. White women with masters degrees in philanthropy need to feel like they are pushing the agenda. They buy into Wakanda theory and want to feel like they are doing their part to fix what they believe is caused by their bloodline.

    53 million people used food banks and pantries in 2021
    https://www.feedingamerica.org/about-us/press-room/53-million-received-help-2021

    I would go stand outside a food bank in rural America and take a look at the people. You will see hard working people that are embarrassed to be there.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson


    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.
     
    So what?

    NGOs are clearly part of the woke open-borders regime.

    They are involved in transporting migrants, settling them, feeding them, and a hundred other things. Many different types of organizations for different purposes, often getting tax dollars.
    , @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9231159/


    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty. As you might expect but free food is more or less a black and brown subsidy.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  330. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime

    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.

    The drawings were probably the work of volunteer White female liberals. It's not a conspiracy. Lutherans do that all the time. They make multi-cult brochures even if the recipients are White. White women with masters degrees in philanthropy need to feel like they are pushing the agenda. They buy into Wakanda theory and want to feel like they are doing their part to fix what they believe is caused by their bloodline.

    53 million people used food banks and pantries in 2021
    https://www.feedingamerica.org/about-us/press-room/53-million-received-help-2021

    I would go stand outside a food bank in rural America and take a look at the people. You will see hard working people that are embarrassed to be there.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.

    So what?

    NGOs are clearly part of the woke open-borders regime.

    They are involved in transporting migrants, settling them, feeding them, and a hundred other things. Many different types of organizations for different purposes, often getting tax dollars.

  331. @AP
    @Mikel


    Meanwhile, in the real world Kamala continues to defend amnesty for illegal immigrants (aka “path to citizenship”)
     
    Here’s the interesting thing. Kamala increases Latin Americanization by eventually giving citizenship to illegals who have lived and worked here illegally for decades. It would be funny if many of these vote Republican, as working class people in America increasingly do. Trump Latinises America by governing like a Latin American populist, through cult of personality, busting the budget and printing money, links to oligarch clans, high tariffs, close work with labor unions. How did Peronism work for Argentina? MAGAtards are in some ways America’s “shirtless ones.” He’ll bring it here.

    I think the latter is ultimately more harmful.

    Why would any sensible person want to turn the US into California where the only consequential elections for the indefinite future are the Democrat primaries
     
    Why only California? Texas and Florida have also seen their Latino population increase and they have not become California. Florida has become more Republican and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.

    :::::::::

    The border has tightened now, before the election. You shouldn’t take Kamala’s previous policies or statements seriously- like Vance (who had once compared Trump to Hitler), she does what is politically expedient for her. That means tightening the border. A Republican Senate will insure that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    and Texas has become more purple not because of Latinos (who outside of California are becoming more Republican) but due to the influx of White leftists, often from California.

    It’s not simply due to White leftists moving to Texas. It’s also due to Texas’s existing EHC (elite human capital), who often lives in the suburbs, trending much more Democratic over the years and decades. As well as due to cognitively elite immigrants moving to Texas, who often vote Democratic because the Democrats increasingly appeal to educated people nowadays.

  332. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are way off: it is the Dems printing money like mad
     
    Trump supported the stimulus checks.

    government-education unions are staunchly Democrat
     
    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    most rich oligarchs support Kamala (easy to check
     
    If it’s easy to check, then name some. It’s mixed, but the richest of them all, Elon, supports Trump.

    the biggest cult of personality was Obama and later some guy named Floyd.
     
    Trump’s supporters are far more culty than Obama’s ever were. George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. XYZ

    George Floyd doesn’t rule a movement- he’s dead. Did you know that?

    So, he’s basically a more morally flawed Black Jesus, but without an alleged Resurrection?

  333. @AP
    @Sean

    Putin does not have an unlimited supply of "losers" and arms (he can't force the general Russian population to get killed in Ukrainian fields) and currently the casualty ratio favors Ukraine about 2:1 (per Karlin, based on death listing data). Russia can continue to slowly gain territory at great expense but if it does so, eventually it's going to reach some large cities that cannot be taken without World War II level casualties, that modern Russia can not sustain. Forget about capturing and occupying Kiev, Dnipro, Odessa, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc.

    So eventually Putin will come to terms with a Ukraine not under his control. Which means a Ukraine that can eventually join NATO.

    Of course, Ukraine's odds of joining NATO are low. They were maybe 5% before the war, and now are at around 25% at most. But there will always be a chance, as long as Ukraine isn't occupied by Russian troops. Agreements signed clearly under duress to appease an illegal invader won't necessarily be honored (why should they be? If I give my wallet to a robber at gunpoint, am I obligated to deny future claims to that money?), Russia knows that, it happened with Minsk and can happen again. So to guarantee it, Russia must occupy all of Ukraine, which it cannot do. A treaty with an independent Ukraine won't be enough, it would have to be full occupation. So Russia will have to accept that there will be no guarantee. How many Russians are going to die before the obvious is accepted?

    The best consolation would be that any lands left as part of Russia, such as Crimea, Donbas, perhaps the Crimean corridor will never be in NATO.

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    • Agree: John Johnson
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    Another case where doing absolutely nothing would have been better for the people of all three countries.

    , @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO
     
    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia? Russia had never cultivated idiotic ambition to expand to Nicaragua or Mexico.

    To paraphrase your silly statement: The US military industrial complexes would have massively benefited from bringing both Nicaragua and Mexico under the military agreement with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  334. Dr. No throws a tantrum on Totalitarian Fox ‘n Friends

    Putin’s defenders seem a bit unhinged after the North Korean troops news. Is it something that they really didn’t want to believe?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    This excitement doesn't have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya. This seems like the hawkish extreme outcome of the SMO. This is good topic to socialize and observe how people react.

    I don't know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO. Best Korea was a pariah in the eyes of the West, but I don't think Russia took that any more seriously than required to keep up appearances. I assume Russia has been sending them some food and supplies for decades. The modest DPRK airline only flies to China and Russia AFAIK.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  335. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

     

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    Another case where doing absolutely nothing would have been better for the people of all three countries.

  336. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    I saw the literature for some rural New Hampshire food bank a year or so ago. The drawings were very multicult-looking, and it was obviously being used as a tool by the regime

    A tool by the regime? Are you kidding me?

    Food banks are non-profits.

    The drawings were probably the work of volunteer White female liberals. It's not a conspiracy. Lutherans do that all the time. They make multi-cult brochures even if the recipients are White. White women with masters degrees in philanthropy need to feel like they are pushing the agenda. They buy into Wakanda theory and want to feel like they are doing their part to fix what they believe is caused by their bloodline.

    53 million people used food banks and pantries in 2021
    https://www.feedingamerica.org/about-us/press-room/53-million-received-help-2021

    I would go stand outside a food bank in rural America and take a look at the people. You will see hard working people that are embarrassed to be there.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9231159/

    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty. As you might expect but free food is more or less a black and brown subsidy.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty.

    Food insecurity is for minorities except for Whites that are in poverty?

    Does that really make sense to you?

    Vermont is the Whitest state in the union.

    By all means show us a county in Vermont that doesn't have a food bank.

    Show us that I must be pushing some type of agenda and am not in touch with rural America.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  337. @John Johnson
    @AP

    Teamsters and others support Trump. The leader of the port workers union who demands inefficient ports is his pal. Typical Latin American stuff. Ironic how in some ways Milei and Trump are opposites.

    The teamsters wouldn't endorse Trump even though a majority of its members voted for him.

    I support unions but f-ck the teamsters. A completely bloated bureaucracy that is in bed with the Democrats.

    Don't endorse anyone if you are going to have double standards.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    So was it just a very intricate form of Teamster double talk when head teamster President Sean O’Brien stood up in front of Trump’s Republican Convention and heartily gave his endorsement to Trump?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    It's the board that made the decision.

    https://teamster.org/2024/09/teamsters-no-endorsement-for-u-s-president/

  338. @Matra
    @songbird

    I've always assumed Whyvert came from a Scandinavian background but it's possible I'm mixing him up with Emil Kirkegaard, the Danish HBDer, who writes about similar topics. Since the Ukraine war began I've noticed a lot of overlap on foreign policy between Scandi right wingers and Jewish hawks.

    Replies: @songbird

    I know Finland isn’t Scandinavia, but Callum (Britannia channel on YouTube) put out a funny travel video of Finland.

    According to him, they repurposed some EU monument, transforming it into a NATO monument, in part by taking down the Irish flag that was on one of the flagpoles. (Though Ireland does seem to be some kind of NATO vassal these days.)

  339. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9231159/


    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty. As you might expect but free food is more or less a black and brown subsidy.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty.

    Food insecurity is for minorities except for Whites that are in poverty?

    Does that really make sense to you?

    Vermont is the Whitest state in the union.

    By all means show us a county in Vermont that doesn’t have a food bank.

    Show us that I must be pushing some type of agenda and am not in touch with rural America.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Whites do not tend to sign up for state welfare benefits available in the system in numbers that match poverty rates in the first place.

    The original poster is correct in that whites have darkies run rings around them getting signed up for freebies.

    That’s a fact.

  340. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    No so. Food Insecurity is a black and brown thing. Although you’ve rather perversely couched your point in Rural American demographics. Whites use food banks roughly in proportion to internal rates of poverty.

    Food insecurity is for minorities except for Whites that are in poverty?

    Does that really make sense to you?

    Vermont is the Whitest state in the union.

    By all means show us a county in Vermont that doesn't have a food bank.

    Show us that I must be pushing some type of agenda and am not in touch with rural America.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Whites do not tend to sign up for state welfare benefits available in the system in numbers that match poverty rates in the first place.

    The original poster is correct in that whites have darkies run rings around them getting signed up for freebies.

    That’s a fact.

  341. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors).

    That's bullshit.

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They're non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @A123

    Why would you even care about food banks?

    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    You didn't explain anything. You implied that the food isn't going to needy people and you provided ZERO evidence.

    You don't even understand how food banks work. Most of the donations are in the form of food.

    Most American Christians would think you are insane for opposing foodbanks.

    Mumbling about "death porn" doesn't change how out of touch you are with the country.

    Me thinks you are like a lot of suburban conservatives that wants to pretend we don't have millions of poor Whites. You don't even sound American. I'm not sure how you can live in America without driving by a food line at some point. Or seeing Whites on the news get their turkey from a food bank. You think they like doing that? You don't think those men would rather buy one? They're filled with shame. White men that enjoy using charity are extremely rare.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  342. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    So was it just a very intricate form of Teamster double talk when head teamster President Sean O'Brien stood up in front of Trump's Republican Convention and heartily gave his endorsement to Trump?

    https://youtu.be/0pDnocISOKc

    Replies: @John Johnson

  343. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Why would you even care about food banks?
     
    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    You didn’t explain anything. You implied that the food isn’t going to needy people and you provided ZERO evidence.

    You don’t even understand how food banks work. Most of the donations are in the form of food.

    Most American Christians would think you are insane for opposing foodbanks.

    Mumbling about “death porn” doesn’t change how out of touch you are with the country.

    Me thinks you are like a lot of suburban conservatives that wants to pretend we don’t have millions of poor Whites. You don’t even sound American. I’m not sure how you can live in America without driving by a food line at some point. Or seeing Whites on the news get their turkey from a food bank. You think they like doing that? You don’t think those men would rather buy one? They’re filled with shame. White men that enjoy using charity are extremely rare.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do. It’s the same in any given European State.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

  344. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    It’s depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don’t need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors).

    That's bullshit.

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They're non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @A123

    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They’re non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.

    Mikel is an open anti-White racist. Add this to his list of #NeverMAGA failings.

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I really do not understand the Mikel’s pathology of “Vote Blue, No Matter Who“. It seems insane, yet there it is.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I used to work near a food bank line and I was always shocked by the number of conservative looking Whites that were there and sometimes with children. They definitely did not want to be there. They would be well dressed and not the drug addicts or junkies that most would imagine.

    I in fact hated that the local news would show the lines for thanksgiving turkeys. Some dingbat journalist would interview them.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mikel
    @A123

    While it's sad to see these open threads reaching new lows, it's somewhat encouraging to see that I must have done something right again to make the 2 biggest morons team up against me, even though they claim to strongly support opposite sides in the Ukraine war.

    One supports Putin's and Netanyahu's wars and pretends to support Trump too but spends the last days of the campaign working for Kamala and attacking Trump voters who do not share his childish worship of the candidate. The other must be an ex-marine, probably Latino, addicted to war porn and suffering from some sort of shell-shock that makes him forget who each person he talks to is. He has already accused sudden death and Latw of being Putin supporters. It's just a matter of time before he directs the accusation to AP and Mr. Hack.

    Not quite as amusing as watching the animals at the zoo but much cheaper and available online everyday.

    Replies: @A123

  345. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    I have clearly explained why it is sad to see what is going on with these charities in my part of the country. But death porn enthusiasts are not expected to understand such explanations so it is strongly discouraged that they comment on these issues. Go find for us one of those videos with fireworks instead.

    You didn't explain anything. You implied that the food isn't going to needy people and you provided ZERO evidence.

    You don't even understand how food banks work. Most of the donations are in the form of food.

    Most American Christians would think you are insane for opposing foodbanks.

    Mumbling about "death porn" doesn't change how out of touch you are with the country.

    Me thinks you are like a lot of suburban conservatives that wants to pretend we don't have millions of poor Whites. You don't even sound American. I'm not sure how you can live in America without driving by a food line at some point. Or seeing Whites on the news get their turkey from a food bank. You think they like doing that? You don't think those men would rather buy one? They're filled with shame. White men that enjoy using charity are extremely rare.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do. It’s the same in any given European State.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    Do the green people sign up or not?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Susan_Oliver_as_Vina_as_an_Orion_slave_girl.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do.

    Pointing out that Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to use food stamps does not negate a single thing that I stated.

    You seem upset that I am experienced with poor Whites and am not working from speculation. Has it taken you years to figure out that I do actually shop at Walmart and am not posting from Israel?

    There are millions of rural Whites that use food banks. Sorry if you and Fox News suburban conservatives don't like that reality and imagine every food line to be filled with Mexican gangsters and Black welfare queens.

    If you want to argue that their access to expired food and canned green beans should be shut off to spite Blacks and Hispanics then go ahead. Rand also believed that Christian charities should be shut down. Ironically she is beloved by Christian conservatives that don't actually read her books.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    I'm pointing out the reality that is rural America. Everyone note that Wokechoke was not able to name a county in 92% White Vermont that does not have a food bank. Once again he lashes out by calling me a Jew when he simply doesn't have the facts and feels frustrated.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  346. @Mr. XYZ
    @Wokechoke

    Ukrainians fought for the Thais? When?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    lol. I meant “The Side…” But who knows; perhaps they even managed to do that in the Japan Burma Campaign.

  347. Thought China had remigrated “Chocolate City”, using man-catching poles, but Masaman (part black) seems to be sounding the alarm bell.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/7NbUXu0fGpA?si=uTfymOpEk1V94jtS

  348. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do. It’s the same in any given European State.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

    Do the green people sign up or not?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    How about the Blue Men?

    https://whatson.ae/abudhabi/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Blue-Man-Group-1-Standard.jpg

  349. @John Johnson
    Dr. No throws a tantrum on Totalitarian Fox 'n Friends

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uBMU7Sj_Bc

    Putin's defenders seem a bit unhinged after the North Korean troops news. Is it something that they really didn't want to believe?

    Replies: @QCIC

    This excitement doesn’t have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya. This seems like the hawkish extreme outcome of the SMO. This is good topic to socialize and observe how people react.

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO. Best Korea was a pariah in the eyes of the West, but I don’t think Russia took that any more seriously than required to keep up appearances. I assume Russia has been sending them some food and supplies for decades. The modest DPRK airline only flies to China and Russia AFAIK.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    This excitement doesn’t have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya.

    That would be Putin's Jewish buddy and not mine. Putin thinks the Jews are great and in June praised them in a speech. But weirdly at Unz we have Jew haters that will call you a Jewish agent if you are against Russia. Amusingly they will accuse you of supporting world Jewry.....for being against a war led by a dictator who praises the Jews and buries Orthodox men. Makes perfect sense if you bash yourself in the head long enough.

    The few Russians that I know are ashamed of being Russian and don't want to talk about the war. One already went native. He gets offended if you bring up Russia around him or make Russian jokes. He gained full American citizenship and has declared himself to be an ex-Russian.

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO.

    I'm not at all surprised. Trading oil for North Korean soldiers is cheaper than paying Russians. Ironically Russian contractors are becoming too expensive for Putin.

    Replies: @QCIC

  350. @AP
    @QCIC


    Do you have a reference for the AK 2:1 estimate? Is the number recent and how does he back it up
     
    Look underneath the more tag. Elsewhere he was saying it may even be 3:1. Pro-war Russians themselves are complaining about it now.

    From a Russian perspective they may need to fight until the Ukrainian willingness to die is broken. After that, maybe the Ukies throw out the compradors at which point agreements between Russia and Ukraine are potentially more meaningful
     
    The usual up is down and down is up contrarianism from you.




    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1845099412214706411?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don’t have X). I was hoping there was some justification, though posting realistic numbers could get you in trouble on either side, as in most wars.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.

    Is Ukraine still press-ganging recruits? I would think by now this would be very dangerous for the ‘recruiters’. I guess the SBU has full cell phone and email surveillance which probably helps a bit.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    I don’t see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don’t have X).
     
    He was basing it on death notices and obituaries, that are being compiled by people on both sides. There are slightly more among Russian than among Ukrainians, but lately there has been a 2:1 disadvantage for Russians (i.e., twice as many death notices and obits on their side). That's about the closest thimg we have to objective data, so smart people like Karlin use it as a basis.

    Of course for people who need to see up as down and down as up this is too straightforward.

    Based on the above, Karlin estimates about 120,000 KIA Ukrainians an 150,000 KIA Russians, with the Russian number lately increasing at a twice-higher rate.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.
     
    Such a number (for 2024 only - for the entire war it is possible) does not reflect Russia's very slow progress, Ukraine's massive drone advantage on the battlefield, and that fact that Russians are attacking in a way that insures steep casualties. As Russian themselves complain about (which is very inconvenient for their Western fanboys).

    But again - you need to see black as white and white as black.

    Replies: @QCIC

  351. Must have seen the old map of Ptolemy a few times, but I never grasped that the Brigantes were also in Ireland. That is, assuming it was the same tribe, which at least seems very likely to me.

    Also, curious how the Germanic tribe Burgundians supposedly comes from the same PIE linguistic roots.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigantes

  352. What would happen, if Trump got in and then grew a mustache?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @songbird

    He has a good chance to get in...American public is not ready for affirmative action Harris. Wasn't she made VP only for helping Biden with visible minorities. Trump should cut his hair short.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @songbird

  353. @A123
    @John Johnson


    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They’re non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.
     

    Mikel is an open anti-White racist. Add this to his list of #NeverMAGA failings.

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I really do not understand the Mikel's pathology of "Vote Blue, No Matter Who". It seems insane, yet there it is.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I used to work near a food bank line and I was always shocked by the number of conservative looking Whites that were there and sometimes with children. They definitely did not want to be there. They would be well dressed and not the drug addicts or junkies that most would imagine.

    I in fact hated that the local news would show the lines for thanksgiving turkeys. Some dingbat journalist would interview them.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    There but for the Grace of God go I.

  354. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    This excitement doesn't have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya. This seems like the hawkish extreme outcome of the SMO. This is good topic to socialize and observe how people react.

    I don't know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO. Best Korea was a pariah in the eyes of the West, but I don't think Russia took that any more seriously than required to keep up appearances. I assume Russia has been sending them some food and supplies for decades. The modest DPRK airline only flies to China and Russia AFAIK.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    This excitement doesn’t have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya.

    That would be Putin’s Jewish buddy and not mine. Putin thinks the Jews are great and in June praised them in a speech. But weirdly at Unz we have Jew haters that will call you a Jewish agent if you are against Russia. Amusingly they will accuse you of supporting world Jewry…..for being against a war led by a dictator who praises the Jews and buries Orthodox men. Makes perfect sense if you bash yourself in the head long enough.

    The few Russians that I know are ashamed of being Russian and don’t want to talk about the war. One already went native. He gets offended if you bring up Russia around him or make Russian jokes. He gained full American citizenship and has declared himself to be an ex-Russian.

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO.

    I’m not at all surprised. Trading oil for North Korean soldiers is cheaper than paying Russians. Ironically Russian contractors are becoming too expensive for Putin.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Russia is probably applying more people to the war effort working and managing her gradually re-energized industrial facilities. I wonder how many post-1990's diaspora Russians are returning home to be part of this apparent revival?

    Jewish people play a powerful role in Russia, Ukraine and the USA; Putin is known to be very sensitive to their interests. However, the Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish.

    I wonder if there will be BRICS peacekeeping brigades in post-SMO Ukraine?

    Replies: @sudden death

  355. @John Johnson
    @A123

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I used to work near a food bank line and I was always shocked by the number of conservative looking Whites that were there and sometimes with children. They definitely did not want to be there. They would be well dressed and not the drug addicts or junkies that most would imagine.

    I in fact hated that the local news would show the lines for thanksgiving turkeys. Some dingbat journalist would interview them.

    Replies: @QCIC

    There but for the Grace of God go I.

    • Agree: A123
  356. @A123
    @John Johnson


    In rural areas most of the recipients are White.

    Why would you even care about food banks? They’re non-profits. No one is forcing you to contribute.

    You are really out of touch with America if you think food banks are a problem.
     

    Mikel is an open anti-White racist. Add this to his list of #NeverMAGA failings.

    He cannot grasp that his Harris/Biden open border policies have displaced Americans from jobs. There are many unemployed and under employed parents who do not want to go to food banks, but suffer through the shame to feed their kids.

    I really do not understand the Mikel's pathology of "Vote Blue, No Matter Who". It seems insane, yet there it is.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    While it’s sad to see these open threads reaching new lows, it’s somewhat encouraging to see that I must have done something right again to make the 2 biggest morons team up against me, even though they claim to strongly support opposite sides in the Ukraine war.

    One supports Putin’s and Netanyahu’s wars and pretends to support Trump too but spends the last days of the campaign working for Kamala and attacking Trump voters who do not share his childish worship of the candidate. The other must be an ex-marine, probably Latino, addicted to war porn and suffering from some sort of shell-shock that makes him forget who each person he talks to is. He has already accused sudden death and Latw of being Putin supporters. It’s just a matter of time before he directs the accusation to AP and Mr. Hack.

    Not quite as amusing as watching the animals at the zoo but much cheaper and available online everyday.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    it’s sad to see these open threads reaching new lows
     
    You brought us to these lows. You have been highly emotional for months. The inferior establishment candidate Ron DeSantis failed to sabotage MAGA in the GOP primary. I guess this broke you mentally and spiritually. If you were serious about being MAGA, you would have built bridges to the far superior candidate Trump.

    Instead, as a #NeverMAGA cultist, you gave aide and comfort to the enemy. First Biden, then your precious Harris. Her campaign is collapsing and all that is left is the improbability of massive fraud.

     
    https://instapundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/kamaladominionparody.jpg
     

    If you stood with MAGA, you would be happy about this. Instead, you come forth with shrill panicked bleating about Trump's physique. Only fearful & desperate Harris supporters act as you do.
    ____

    I will again repeat the generous offer that has been made before.

    You could be welcome in MAGA, if you build bridges to MAGA. You have to stop lying about the MAGA President Trump. You have to stop senseless petty insults about the MAGA President Trump.

    How long can you go without lying or being insulting?

    Sadly, your track record is quite poor in this regard. Can you change? Or, will you continue to bring this forum to new lows? The choice is yours.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

  357. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do. It’s the same in any given European State.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do.

    Pointing out that Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to use food stamps does not negate a single thing that I stated.

    You seem upset that I am experienced with poor Whites and am not working from speculation. Has it taken you years to figure out that I do actually shop at Walmart and am not posting from Israel?

    There are millions of rural Whites that use food banks. Sorry if you and Fox News suburban conservatives don’t like that reality and imagine every food line to be filled with Mexican gangsters and Black welfare queens.

    If you want to argue that their access to expired food and canned green beans should be shut off to spite Blacks and Hispanics then go ahead. Rand also believed that Christian charities should be shut down. Ironically she is beloved by Christian conservatives that don’t actually read her books.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    I’m pointing out the reality that is rural America. Everyone note that Wokechoke was not able to name a county in 92% White Vermont that does not have a food bank. Once again he lashes out by calling me a Jew when he simply doesn’t have the facts and feels frustrated.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Stop your straw manning on people you Jewish freak.

    I never said that whites shouldn’t get free food. So much goes to waste from nightly bakery surplus that bread and pastry should be doled out as a matter of principle.

    I’d prefer good cuts of meat doled than have people waste their day working McDonalds, and other eat that slop. Better that people get free milk than pour it away etc.

    White people tend not to sign up for what ever state benefits they are legally entitled to at the same per capita rate as darkies, relying on churches and charity instead.

    You are such an obvious fake: Vermont then the Germanic Midwest. Little League Sports and Food pantries. All over the joint.

  358. I was doing a laser-like control-f on on Symon Semeonis to find out what he said about Gypsies, and I found this amusing line accidentally:

    And in that church, to the east, is a most noble chapel of the Holy Virgin tessellated with stories from the Bible, in which daily the English at the celebration of mass chant sweet and joyous melodies to Mary quite unlike the shouting of Lombards and the howling of Germans.

    And here is what he said of Gypsies, which reminds me a little of the Sioux:

    At Candia we saw a bishop belonging to the order of the Friars Minor, who had formerly been a Jew.54 We also saw outside this city a tribe of people, who worship according to the Greek rite, and assert themselves to be of the race of Cain. These people rarely or never stop in one place for more than thirty days, but always, as if cursed by God, are nomad and outcast.55 After the thirtieth day they wander from field to field with small, oblong, black, and low tents, like those of the Arabs,56 and from cave to cave, because the place inhabited by them becomes after the term of thirty days so full of vermin and other filth that it is impossible to live in their neighbourhood.

    Am kind of surprised medieval people viewed them as being particularly filthy.

    https://celt.ucc.ie/published/T300002-001.html

  359. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Of course, not that NATO membership for Ukraine would be necessarily the worst thing for Russia. A Ukraine in NATO would have a smaller army, would not need to develop its own nukes, would be constrained by soft-on-Russia countries like Germany more. It would eliminate the temptation for future stupid wars by Russia upon Ukraine.

     

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO back in 2008 since it would have prevented the current stupid Russian war with Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO

    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia? Russia had never cultivated idiotic ambition to expand to Nicaragua or Mexico.

    To paraphrase your silly statement: The US military industrial complexes would have massively benefited from bringing both Nicaragua and Mexico under the military agreement with Russia.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    Russia is much less capable of protecting Nicaragua or Mexico than the US is of protecting Ukraine and Georgia, at least if the political will for this actually existed.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia?

    Well go ahead and explain the military strategy.

    Explain why they need bases in Ukraine and Georgia when they have Baltics and submarines in the Atlantic that can level Russia.

  360. @songbird
    What would happen, if Trump got in and then grew a mustache?

    Replies: @Derer

    He has a good chance to get in…American public is not ready for affirmative action Harris. Wasn’t she made VP only for helping Biden with visible minorities. Trump should cut his hair short.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Derer

    "Trump should cut his hair short."

    Only if elected - then he should go full skinhead and announce "no more Mr Nice Guy".

    Any kosher info on the reprisal raid on Iran? The Mail are bigging it up fwiw but it sounds remarkably restrained for Israel.

    Replies: @A123

    , @songbird
    @Derer

    Have heard some speculate that Harris already knows that it is over, and she is just going through the motions, looking forward to the day where she can finally quit and go back to the simpler days of being a full-time whore.

  361. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO
     
    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia? Russia had never cultivated idiotic ambition to expand to Nicaragua or Mexico.

    To paraphrase your silly statement: The US military industrial complexes would have massively benefited from bringing both Nicaragua and Mexico under the military agreement with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Russia is much less capable of protecting Nicaragua or Mexico than the US is of protecting Ukraine and Georgia, at least if the political will for this actually existed.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    It is not about protecting Ukraine or Georgia; btw Georgia is lost to Russia and the lunatic is in jail. It is all about encircling Russia by military bases - a useless big grandiose project that denies all American better life. I know, I live there.

    This is all very strange, because apparently NATO/US won the cold war - according to the MSM annoying jubilation - and the main enemy Warsaw Pact disappeared and that suppose to bring lasting peace. However, American Industrial Complexes (the US shadow government) need creating new enemies, especially after Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan fiasco. They still cannot rationalized about dismal chances against Sino-Russian alliance.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  362. @emil nikola richard
    @Wokechoke

    Do the green people sign up or not?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Susan_Oliver_as_Vina_as_an_Orion_slave_girl.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    How about the Blue Men?

  363. @Derer
    @songbird

    He has a good chance to get in...American public is not ready for affirmative action Harris. Wasn't she made VP only for helping Biden with visible minorities. Trump should cut his hair short.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @songbird

    “Trump should cut his hair short.”

    Only if elected – then he should go full skinhead and announce “no more Mr Nice Guy”.

    Any kosher info on the reprisal raid on Iran? The Mail are bigging it up fwiw but it sounds remarkably restrained for Israel.

    • Replies: @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Any kosher info on the reprisal raid on Iran? The Mail are bigging it up fwiw but it sounds remarkably restrained for Israel.
     
    The original Iranian attack was mostly to totally ineffectual. There was no need for Palestinian Jews to launch a particularly massive response to Iran's show of weakness. I doubt any outside party has enough information to score the engagement.

    Prediction... Both sides will claim they won. And, there will not be another round.

    PEACE 😇
  364. @Mikel
    @A123

    While it's sad to see these open threads reaching new lows, it's somewhat encouraging to see that I must have done something right again to make the 2 biggest morons team up against me, even though they claim to strongly support opposite sides in the Ukraine war.

    One supports Putin's and Netanyahu's wars and pretends to support Trump too but spends the last days of the campaign working for Kamala and attacking Trump voters who do not share his childish worship of the candidate. The other must be an ex-marine, probably Latino, addicted to war porn and suffering from some sort of shell-shock that makes him forget who each person he talks to is. He has already accused sudden death and Latw of being Putin supporters. It's just a matter of time before he directs the accusation to AP and Mr. Hack.

    Not quite as amusing as watching the animals at the zoo but much cheaper and available online everyday.

    Replies: @A123

    it’s sad to see these open threads reaching new lows

    You brought us to these lows. You have been highly emotional for months. The inferior establishment candidate Ron DeSantis failed to sabotage MAGA in the GOP primary. I guess this broke you mentally and spiritually. If you were serious about being MAGA, you would have built bridges to the far superior candidate Trump.

    Instead, as a #NeverMAGA cultist, you gave aide and comfort to the enemy. First Biden, then your precious Harris. Her campaign is collapsing and all that is left is the improbability of massive fraud.

     

     

    If you stood with MAGA, you would be happy about this. Instead, you come forth with shrill panicked bleating about Trump’s physique. Only fearful & desperate Harris supporters act as you do.
    ____

    I will again repeat the generous offer that has been made before.

    You could be welcome in MAGA, if you build bridges to MAGA. You have to stop lying about the MAGA President Trump. You have to stop senseless petty insults about the MAGA President Trump.

    How long can you go without lying or being insulting?

    Sadly, your track record is quite poor in this regard. Can you change? Or, will you continue to bring this forum to new lows? The choice is yours.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @A123

    We whipped DeSantis.
    We’re whipping Trump, next.

    Replies: @doclove

  365. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Derer

    "Trump should cut his hair short."

    Only if elected - then he should go full skinhead and announce "no more Mr Nice Guy".

    Any kosher info on the reprisal raid on Iran? The Mail are bigging it up fwiw but it sounds remarkably restrained for Israel.

    Replies: @A123

    Any kosher info on the reprisal raid on Iran? The Mail are bigging it up fwiw but it sounds remarkably restrained for Israel.

    The original Iranian attack was mostly to totally ineffectual. There was no need for Palestinian Jews to launch a particularly massive response to Iran’s show of weakness. I doubt any outside party has enough information to score the engagement.

    Prediction… Both sides will claim they won. And, there will not be another round.

    PEACE 😇

  366. @A123
    @QCIC


    Jewish power is a big part of the current reality in the USA, Ukraine and Russia.
     
    Hmmmm...

    • Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, is an Azov neo-Nazi
    • Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite seeking Muslim votes

    • Putin is well known to be friendly with Russian Jews
    • Trump is supportive of indigenous Palestinian Jews

    If you want to put the pieces together, you must look a bit further. The European Empire is running the Great Muslim Replacement to harm European Jews & Christians. They also support Führer Zelensky, ordering their puppets Harris and Biden to send weapons.

    Reality looks bad for Kiev aggression. Trump's win will increase Judeo-Christian influence. Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, will no longer have a Europe controlled puppet occupying the White House. Look for the pro-Jewish administration to reduce (or eliminate) the support for anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, Kiev aggression against Russians, including Russian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Derer, @songbird

    Führer Zelensky

    The H-man probably wouldn’t have worn one of these English-print Tees.

    [MORE]

    • LOL: A123
  367. @Derer
    @songbird

    He has a good chance to get in...American public is not ready for affirmative action Harris. Wasn't she made VP only for helping Biden with visible minorities. Trump should cut his hair short.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @songbird

    Have heard some speculate that Harris already knows that it is over, and she is just going through the motions, looking forward to the day where she can finally quit and go back to the simpler days of being a full-time whore.

  368. Zeihan is saying funny things, like Ukraine will get nukes. Swedes will get nukes, followed three months later by the Finns. But what really scares him is Germans getting nukes, because they always make bad strategic decisions. And the Poles will combine with Romanians to make nukes.
    ___
    Whatifalthist is saying that beginning in November there will be a period of a of few months were there will be a million politically-related deaths.
    _____
    I feel left out because I don’t have my own dramatic take.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Clif High says aliens are going to show. Use your imagination. That is what election season is for.

    Replies: @songbird

  369. @songbird
    Zeihan is saying funny things, like Ukraine will get nukes. Swedes will get nukes, followed three months later by the Finns. But what really scares him is Germans getting nukes, because they always make bad strategic decisions. And the Poles will combine with Romanians to make nukes.
    ___
    Whatifalthist is saying that beginning in November there will be a period of a of few months were there will be a million politically-related deaths.
    _____
    I feel left out because I don't have my own dramatic take.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Clif High says aliens are going to show. Use your imagination. That is what election season is for.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Guess I was way off and Whatifalthist was really only saying ~1000 political deaths. More like the French Revolution or something.

    I didn't actually watch the thing.

    But I got confused as I remember him saying something about a civil war.


    https://twitter.com/uberboyo/status/1849206693122506971

  370. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Clif High says aliens are going to show. Use your imagination. That is what election season is for.

    Replies: @songbird

    Guess I was way off and Whatifalthist was really only saying ~1000 political deaths. More like the French Revolution or something.

    I didn’t actually watch the thing.

    But I got confused as I remember him saying something about a civil war.

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: S1
  371. What Joe the Bald and Donald the Fat will not talk about: corona virus, experimental genetic medicine, genocide in Gaza, budget liabilities for Lockheed and Boeing and Raytheon and Social Security and Medicare, the number of Jews in Biden’s administration and the the number of Jews Donald the Fat is planning on, CIA crimes, British and Israeli agents in Washington, Google and Amazon and Microsoft and Facebook are now effectively military contractors.

    What they could talk about that could hold a listener’s interest: a very short list. I can only think of one subject. They both have experience hosting television game shows. Has a television game show host ever been fired for poor performance one time in the history of the universe? I cannot think of one example but I don’t know. The only job requirement is that you can read a cue card. Only a complete fucktard like J. J-son is too stupid to perform the job requirements. The second stupidest person to ever comment in Karlinstan could do the job. The dumbest person in my family, the dumbest person I have ever worked with, the dumbest person I have ever gone to school with, the dumbest person I have ever hung around with, the dumbest person I have ever lived around, the dumbest person I have ever known–all of these people were smart enough to do this job. There is potentially a long deep discussion that could occur between Joe the Bald and Donald the Fat on this topic. Wasn’t firing a television game show host for one too many screw ups a plot point in the movie Magnolia?

    It was an absurd movie but philosophy of the absurd is not a vacuous subject especially in comparison to most of the subjects talk shows deal with. Joe the B and Donald the F could do something with it. Probably they will not.

    There is one item to look for. The duration time of the interview. Joe the Bald practically invented the long form podcast. Will this be longer than the Lex Fridman Donald Trump time of 40 minutes? If you look at the you tube file it says 60 but if you listen to it you will notice the last 20 minutes is a Lex Fridman monologue which he pasted on there for pretense of Lex having performed his duty. So the one thing to notice is how far short of maintaining his duty to his audience Joe the B falls. Joe the B’s professional integrity (!) calls for 120 minutes. There ain’t no way he is going to make it.

    Nine eleven was an inside job.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    I think that you and songbird should team up and do some kind of interview podcast program. You know, the type that Mike Averko spends an inordinate amount of time of his day listening to. Others here would tune in too, I'm sure, as the open nature of this blogsite has become stale...boring.

    I've got something like this in mind, it could be called "The Day to Day Show hosted by songbird and ENR". Check this one out, I think that you'll enjoy it:

    https://youtu.be/Ja5FLnuVKPA

    Don't miss "WOMAN WANTED FOR CHIMP TO FEEL TITS WHENEVER IT WANTS" at 5:26. The commemoration of the first nudist colony in the US that follows is pretty good too.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  372. @emil nikola richard
    What Joe the Bald and Donald the Fat will not talk about: corona virus, experimental genetic medicine, genocide in Gaza, budget liabilities for Lockheed and Boeing and Raytheon and Social Security and Medicare, the number of Jews in Biden's administration and the the number of Jews Donald the Fat is planning on, CIA crimes, British and Israeli agents in Washington, Google and Amazon and Microsoft and Facebook are now effectively military contractors.

    What they could talk about that could hold a listener's interest: a very short list. I can only think of one subject. They both have experience hosting television game shows. Has a television game show host ever been fired for poor performance one time in the history of the universe? I cannot think of one example but I don't know. The only job requirement is that you can read a cue card. Only a complete fucktard like J. J-son is too stupid to perform the job requirements. The second stupidest person to ever comment in Karlinstan could do the job. The dumbest person in my family, the dumbest person I have ever worked with, the dumbest person I have ever gone to school with, the dumbest person I have ever hung around with, the dumbest person I have ever lived around, the dumbest person I have ever known--all of these people were smart enough to do this job. There is potentially a long deep discussion that could occur between Joe the Bald and Donald the Fat on this topic. Wasn't firing a television game show host for one too many screw ups a plot point in the movie Magnolia?

    It was an absurd movie but philosophy of the absurd is not a vacuous subject especially in comparison to most of the subjects talk shows deal with. Joe the B and Donald the F could do something with it. Probably they will not.

    There is one item to look for. The duration time of the interview. Joe the Bald practically invented the long form podcast. Will this be longer than the Lex Fridman Donald Trump time of 40 minutes? If you look at the you tube file it says 60 but if you listen to it you will notice the last 20 minutes is a Lex Fridman monologue which he pasted on there for pretense of Lex having performed his duty. So the one thing to notice is how far short of maintaining his duty to his audience Joe the B falls. Joe the B's professional integrity (!) calls for 120 minutes. There ain't no way he is going to make it.

    Nine eleven was an inside job.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I think that you and songbird should team up and do some kind of interview podcast program. You know, the type that Mike Averko spends an inordinate amount of time of his day listening to. Others here would tune in too, I’m sure, as the open nature of this blogsite has become stale…boring.

    I’ve got something like this in mind, it could be called “The Day to Day Show hosted by songbird and ENR”. Check this one out, I think that you’ll enjoy it:

    Don’t miss “WOMAN WANTED FOR CHIMP TO FEEL TITS WHENEVER IT WANTS” at 5:26. The commemoration of the first nudist colony in the US that follows is pretty good too.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can't handle the truth. For talk show purposes this feature has clipped the ups and downs right out of my speaking voice except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

  373. The pea sized country of Moldava recently held a referendum and decided to pursue its EU aspirations. Apparently Moldava, like its other neighboring pea sized country of Slovakia, prefers an association with its Western neighbors than with the newly aspiring Soviet Union that Putler is trying to recreate. I wonder why?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    Nostalgia for Romania Mare? A lot of the population are basically a type of ethnic Romanian, iirc.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Slandering Slovakia with a lie - apologize! Slovakia is 25th from 47 European countries by population. Pretty soon ahead of Ukraine population.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    I see they are volunteering to be Ukraine 2.0 - but the "votes" which tipped the scales all came from abroad, so the overseas voters/voteriggers are saying "let's you and him fight".

    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn't. Any more than you do.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  374. @Mikel
    @Matra

    It's depressing to see that people (including children) donate to food banks and other charities thinking that they are helping people in need but in reality most of the donations go to folks who don't need any help (some are actually making more money than the donors). An old Anglo tradition turned purposeless by a silly migration policy. But at least in this area Indians (mostly recent H1-Bs and their families) seem to be well behaved. You don't hear of the police looking for Indians who have committed silly crimes like road rage attacks while they're always on the lookout for some such Hispanic fugitive.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Matra

    Below is a video from Alberta featuring a white woman discussing her food bank haul. Clearly not Anglo; one commenter suggests Ukrainian. In just two and a half years in Ireland Ukrainians have acquired a terrible reputation for scamming and general shamelessness. When you import people from corrupt low trust societies they bring their values with them.

    [MORE]

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @AP
    @Matra

    It's just Socialist morality. Diaspora Ukrainians had similar complaints when post-Soviet Ukrainians showed up in the West after 1990. Within Ukraine, the least Soviet are the most decent: Galicians. They are a lot like Poles. But, like them, they are still not quite as clean as those who have been untainted by Socialism. Eastern Ukrainians are a lot worse. Polish attitudes towards Ukrainians have gotten worse as the western and central Ukrainians have returned home and have been replaced by more Sovietized Eastern Ukrainians whom the Russians have ethnically cleansed from eastern Ukraine.

    I've heard that established Armenians in LA had similar complaints about Soviet Armenians who also came in the 1990s.

    In the 1990s Russian grad students were notorious for their hijinks. One guy I knew, now a very well-respected professor and leader in his field, would sit all day at a buffet while doing coursework, essentially getting 2 unlimited meals for the price of 1 (more, because he would take out food also). It was a chain and didn't have policies for people like that. Some others figured out a scheme to get a lot of free groceries due to some loophole in the coupon system at Kroger's.

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California's generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    Soviet socialism corrupts, unfortunately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

  375. @QCIC
    @AP

    I don't see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don't have X). I was hoping there was some justification, though posting realistic numbers could get you in trouble on either side, as in most wars.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.

    Is Ukraine still press-ganging recruits? I would think by now this would be very dangerous for the 'recruiters'. I guess the SBU has full cell phone and email surveillance which probably helps a bit.

    Replies: @AP

    I don’t see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don’t have X).

    He was basing it on death notices and obituaries, that are being compiled by people on both sides. There are slightly more among Russian than among Ukrainians, but lately there has been a 2:1 disadvantage for Russians (i.e., twice as many death notices and obits on their side). That’s about the closest thimg we have to objective data, so smart people like Karlin use it as a basis.

    Of course for people who need to see up as down and down as up this is too straightforward.

    Based on the above, Karlin estimates about 120,000 KIA Ukrainians an 150,000 KIA Russians, with the Russian number lately increasing at a twice-higher rate.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.

    Such a number (for 2024 only – for the entire war it is possible) does not reflect Russia’s very slow progress, Ukraine’s massive drone advantage on the battlefield, and that fact that Russians are attacking in a way that insures steep casualties. As Russian themselves complain about (which is very inconvenient for their Western fanboys).

    But again – you need to see black as white and white as black.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I am against nuclear war which I believe the West is risking using your Ukrainian friends as pawns.

    The Russian number for Ukrainian casualties (killed or seriously wounded) since the beginning of the SMO is around 800,ooo IIRC. Considering the willingness of Ukraine to throw men into combined arms battles for two and a half years this doesn't seem impossible. The question is what are the casualty figures for Russian and pro-Russia Ukrainian fighters?

    Thanks for the info on AK's numbers.

  376. @Mr. Hack
    The pea sized country of Moldava recently held a referendum and decided to pursue its EU aspirations. Apparently Moldava, like its other neighboring pea sized country of Slovakia, prefers an association with its Western neighbors than with the newly aspiring Soviet Union that Putler is trying to recreate. I wonder why?

    https://youtu.be/mfFfWrMgQXE

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Derer, @YetAnotherAnon

    Nostalgia for Romania Mare? A lot of the population are basically a type of ethnic Romanian, iirc.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    What in my comment would lead you to think that I'm nostalgic for Romania Mare?

    Replies: @Coconuts

  377. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    Russia is much less capable of protecting Nicaragua or Mexico than the US is of protecting Ukraine and Georgia, at least if the political will for this actually existed.

    Replies: @Derer

    It is not about protecting Ukraine or Georgia; btw Georgia is lost to Russia and the lunatic is in jail. It is all about encircling Russia by military bases – a useless big grandiose project that denies all American better life. I know, I live there.

    This is all very strange, because apparently NATO/US won the cold war – according to the MSM annoying jubilation – and the main enemy Warsaw Pact disappeared and that suppose to bring lasting peace. However, American Industrial Complexes (the US shadow government) need creating new enemies, especially after Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan fiasco. They still cannot rationalized about dismal chances against Sino-Russian alliance.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    When did NATO plan military bases in Ukraine? Actual military bases, not just military instructors for Ukrainian troops.

    Replies: @Derer

  378. @Mr. Hack
    The pea sized country of Moldava recently held a referendum and decided to pursue its EU aspirations. Apparently Moldava, like its other neighboring pea sized country of Slovakia, prefers an association with its Western neighbors than with the newly aspiring Soviet Union that Putler is trying to recreate. I wonder why?

    https://youtu.be/mfFfWrMgQXE

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Derer, @YetAnotherAnon

    Slandering Slovakia with a lie – apologize! Slovakia is 25th from 47 European countries by population. Pretty soon ahead of Ukraine population.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    Well, at least I got the sentiment in Moldova correct! And in Slovakia too!! :-)

  379. @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    Nostalgia for Romania Mare? A lot of the population are basically a type of ethnic Romanian, iirc.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What in my comment would lead you to think that I’m nostalgic for Romania Mare?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    I thought you were wondering about why Moldova voted to join the EU?

    I thought the Romanian ones may have been seeking closer ties with Romania.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  380. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Slandering Slovakia with a lie - apologize! Slovakia is 25th from 47 European countries by population. Pretty soon ahead of Ukraine population.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Well, at least I got the sentiment in Moldova correct! And in Slovakia too!! 🙂

  381. @A123
    @Mikel


    it’s sad to see these open threads reaching new lows
     
    You brought us to these lows. You have been highly emotional for months. The inferior establishment candidate Ron DeSantis failed to sabotage MAGA in the GOP primary. I guess this broke you mentally and spiritually. If you were serious about being MAGA, you would have built bridges to the far superior candidate Trump.

    Instead, as a #NeverMAGA cultist, you gave aide and comfort to the enemy. First Biden, then your precious Harris. Her campaign is collapsing and all that is left is the improbability of massive fraud.

     
    https://instapundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/kamaladominionparody.jpg
     

    If you stood with MAGA, you would be happy about this. Instead, you come forth with shrill panicked bleating about Trump's physique. Only fearful & desperate Harris supporters act as you do.
    ____

    I will again repeat the generous offer that has been made before.

    You could be welcome in MAGA, if you build bridges to MAGA. You have to stop lying about the MAGA President Trump. You have to stop senseless petty insults about the MAGA President Trump.

    How long can you go without lying or being insulting?

    Sadly, your track record is quite poor in this regard. Can you change? Or, will you continue to bring this forum to new lows? The choice is yours.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    We whipped DeSantis.
    We’re whipping Trump, next.

    • Replies: @doclove
    @Supply and Demand

    Then the USA will fall faster and harder under Kamala Harris so you will be whipped too if you live in the USA. If you live in China and are not of pure Chinese descent or at least a pure East Asian person of another nationality then you will be whipped sooner and harder when the USA falls. By the way, East Asians like Gentile Whites better than the other races so even if East Asians treat Gentile Whites poorly then it will still be better than all the races. I as a Gentile White will love to see you get whipped harder and more often than me just because you refused to believe the truth that Gentile Whites are the most just, fair and benevolent of all the races to every human being no matter what his or her race is. The word on the street is that your idiot whore mother wishes she aborted you. Is this true?

  382. @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    I think that you and songbird should team up and do some kind of interview podcast program. You know, the type that Mike Averko spends an inordinate amount of time of his day listening to. Others here would tune in too, I'm sure, as the open nature of this blogsite has become stale...boring.

    I've got something like this in mind, it could be called "The Day to Day Show hosted by songbird and ENR". Check this one out, I think that you'll enjoy it:

    https://youtu.be/Ja5FLnuVKPA

    Don't miss "WOMAN WANTED FOR CHIMP TO FEEL TITS WHENEVER IT WANTS" at 5:26. The commemoration of the first nudist colony in the US that follows is pretty good too.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can’t handle the truth. For talk show purposes this feature has clipped the ups and downs right out of my speaking voice except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    That's it! Ron and Miles can declare a temporary truce.

    Then they can sit down and share a nice hearty turkey feast, projecto y projecto. The price of entry for each is a 10,000 word essay definitively proving that Thanksgiving is an entirely made up commercial holiday. He with the best case it is also a Jewish plot (duh) gets to give the first speech.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    Both you and songbird have very inquisitive minds, something that I appreciate in people.


    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can’t handle the truth.
     
    I believe you. Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don't understand where you're coming from (or where you're going). :-)

    except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

     

    Are you using hallucinatory drugs and tripping out? It's been a long time since I did any tripping, and wonder what that's like in this day and age? Do you use settings in Mother Nature, or perhaps more contrived settings like a special house with piped in music, etc; Do you remember the time that Karlin described his Christmas/New Year's trip viewing the holiday lights? I've read that current imbibers are experimenting with micro dosages...

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

     

    Sure, why not? He seems like a very sociable sort of guy and must be a great conversationalist. Sharing some good food and wine with Ron would be very cool. :-)

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

  383. @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    What in my comment would lead you to think that I'm nostalgic for Romania Mare?

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I thought you were wondering about why Moldova voted to join the EU?

    I thought the Romanian ones may have been seeking closer ties with Romania.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts


    I thought you were wondering about why Moldova voted to join the EU?
     
    It was supposed to be a rhetorical question. :-)

    I thought the Romanian ones may have been seeking closer ties with Romania.
     
    That could be. Once they're both within the EU, the road to unification should be closer. I've never been able to understand why the two haven't united into one already?...
  384. @Matra
    @Mikel

    Below is a video from Alberta featuring a white woman discussing her food bank haul. Clearly not Anglo; one commenter suggests Ukrainian. In just two and a half years in Ireland Ukrainians have acquired a terrible reputation for scamming and general shamelessness. When you import people from corrupt low trust societies they bring their values with them.



    https://twitter.com/TheBlackHorse65/status/1849962754829934938

    Replies: @AP

    It’s just Socialist morality. Diaspora Ukrainians had similar complaints when post-Soviet Ukrainians showed up in the West after 1990. Within Ukraine, the least Soviet are the most decent: Galicians. They are a lot like Poles. But, like them, they are still not quite as clean as those who have been untainted by Socialism. Eastern Ukrainians are a lot worse. Polish attitudes towards Ukrainians have gotten worse as the western and central Ukrainians have returned home and have been replaced by more Sovietized Eastern Ukrainians whom the Russians have ethnically cleansed from eastern Ukraine.

    I’ve heard that established Armenians in LA had similar complaints about Soviet Armenians who also came in the 1990s.

    In the 1990s Russian grad students were notorious for their hijinks. One guy I knew, now a very well-respected professor and leader in his field, would sit all day at a buffet while doing coursework, essentially getting 2 unlimited meals for the price of 1 (more, because he would take out food also). It was a chain and didn’t have policies for people like that. Some others figured out a scheme to get a lot of free groceries due to some loophole in the coupon system at Kroger’s.

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    Soviet socialism corrupts, unfortunately.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.
     
    I thought that Baptists and Pentecostals live a higher morality, basing their every move on Biblical principles, not bamboozled by the religious accoutrements that are prevalent within the Orthodox and Catholic confessions? I was always amazed to watch the attachment that these Ukrainian protestants had to the likes of Benny Hinn. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Would you consider me forging a homework pass in 10th grade because I somehow accidentally ended up losing one of mine and then getting severely punished for this by my teacher (though I was able to compensate for this by getting a 93% on the class final) an example of ex-Soviet morality?

    , @Dmitry
    @AP

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn't something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn't something which indicates she is cheating.

    Ukraine is a war zone, so that's also not necessarily a fake refugee or only an economic immigrant. Usually, since 2022 the Ukrainians arriving in the West a mix of economic immigrants and real refugees, depending mainly on their region of origin. So, probably we would need to know their region of origin, before judging too much if they are a refugee or an economic immigrant.


    In the 1990s Russian grad

     

    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It's not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It's also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can't predict if you will have food next harvest.


    It’s just Socialist morality.

     

    I know, this is part of the American Cold War ideology, to try to say every cultural difference between the USA and Russia, is because of socialism.

    But, it's not matching to knowledge of history. In the 19th century, people had higher dependency on the government and with tricking the system, even than in the 20th century.

    And 19th century the panslavist historians, love the stories about how in the 17th century, beggars were more sophisticated, than in the 19th century.

    So, the social trust has not exactly been declining each century in some of these areas. Cheats in the 17th century, would view the cheats in the 20th century, as probably naive and not very sophisticated, if you can believe those stories.


    https://i.imgur.com/pBebasA.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @AP

  385. @AP
    @QCIC


    I don’t see any back up for the AK casualty figures (I don’t have X).
     
    He was basing it on death notices and obituaries, that are being compiled by people on both sides. There are slightly more among Russian than among Ukrainians, but lately there has been a 2:1 disadvantage for Russians (i.e., twice as many death notices and obits on their side). That's about the closest thimg we have to objective data, so smart people like Karlin use it as a basis.

    Of course for people who need to see up as down and down as up this is too straightforward.

    Based on the above, Karlin estimates about 120,000 KIA Ukrainians an 150,000 KIA Russians, with the Russian number lately increasing at a twice-higher rate.

    The Russian MOD lists Ukrainian casualties killed or wounded in 2024 as 466,000. This sad number does not seem impossible considering the advantages Russia has.
     
    Such a number (for 2024 only - for the entire war it is possible) does not reflect Russia's very slow progress, Ukraine's massive drone advantage on the battlefield, and that fact that Russians are attacking in a way that insures steep casualties. As Russian themselves complain about (which is very inconvenient for their Western fanboys).

    But again - you need to see black as white and white as black.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I am against nuclear war which I believe the West is risking using your Ukrainian friends as pawns.

    The Russian number for Ukrainian casualties (killed or seriously wounded) since the beginning of the SMO is around 800,ooo IIRC. Considering the willingness of Ukraine to throw men into combined arms battles for two and a half years this doesn’t seem impossible. The question is what are the casualty figures for Russian and pro-Russia Ukrainian fighters?

    Thanks for the info on AK’s numbers.

  386. @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can't handle the truth. For talk show purposes this feature has clipped the ups and downs right out of my speaking voice except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    That’s it! Ron and Miles can declare a temporary truce.

    Then they can sit down and share a nice hearty turkey feast, projecto y projecto. The price of entry for each is a 10,000 word essay definitively proving that Thanksgiving is an entirely made up commercial holiday. He with the best case it is also a Jewish plot (duh) gets to give the first speech.

  387. @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    I thought you were wondering about why Moldova voted to join the EU?

    I thought the Romanian ones may have been seeking closer ties with Romania.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I thought you were wondering about why Moldova voted to join the EU?

    It was supposed to be a rhetorical question. 🙂

    I thought the Romanian ones may have been seeking closer ties with Romania.

    That could be. Once they’re both within the EU, the road to unification should be closer. I’ve never been able to understand why the two haven’t united into one already?…

  388. @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can't handle the truth. For talk show purposes this feature has clipped the ups and downs right out of my speaking voice except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    Both you and songbird have very inquisitive minds, something that I appreciate in people.

    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can’t handle the truth.

    I believe you. Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going). 🙂

    except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

    Are you using hallucinatory drugs and tripping out? It’s been a long time since I did any tripping, and wonder what that’s like in this day and age? Do you use settings in Mother Nature, or perhaps more contrived settings like a special house with piped in music, etc; Do you remember the time that Karlin described his Christmas/New Year’s trip viewing the holiday lights? I’ve read that current imbibers are experimenting with micro dosages…

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

    Sure, why not? He seems like a very sociable sort of guy and must be a great conversationalist. Sharing some good food and wine with Ron would be very cool. 🙂

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mr. Hack

    No peyote since 19 or 20 y. o. No acid since approx 23 y. o. No psy. mushrooms since approx 33 y. o. No ayahuasca, ketamine, ecstasy, DMT, PCP ever. I have seen people on ketamine, ecstasy, DMT, and PCP and do not get the appeal. Peyote is physically revolting.

    Hallucinogens are for young people. Psy. mushrooms always gave me diarrhea. When I get high now I restrict myself to cannabis, alcohol, and tobacco. Did I leave anything out? All humans are different. All those pills the doctors are giving everybody for their mental illness are dangerous. The only drugs that I consider safe for routine regular consumption are caffeine and aspirin.

    It is beneficial when getting high to drink all the water you can. Like a gallon of it.

    , @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).
     
    I enjoy Emil's nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a "whale psychiatrist", which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

  389. @AP
    @Matra

    It's just Socialist morality. Diaspora Ukrainians had similar complaints when post-Soviet Ukrainians showed up in the West after 1990. Within Ukraine, the least Soviet are the most decent: Galicians. They are a lot like Poles. But, like them, they are still not quite as clean as those who have been untainted by Socialism. Eastern Ukrainians are a lot worse. Polish attitudes towards Ukrainians have gotten worse as the western and central Ukrainians have returned home and have been replaced by more Sovietized Eastern Ukrainians whom the Russians have ethnically cleansed from eastern Ukraine.

    I've heard that established Armenians in LA had similar complaints about Soviet Armenians who also came in the 1990s.

    In the 1990s Russian grad students were notorious for their hijinks. One guy I knew, now a very well-respected professor and leader in his field, would sit all day at a buffet while doing coursework, essentially getting 2 unlimited meals for the price of 1 (more, because he would take out food also). It was a chain and didn't have policies for people like that. Some others figured out a scheme to get a lot of free groceries due to some loophole in the coupon system at Kroger's.

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California's generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    Soviet socialism corrupts, unfortunately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    I thought that Baptists and Pentecostals live a higher morality, basing their every move on Biblical principles, not bamboozled by the religious accoutrements that are prevalent within the Orthodox and Catholic confessions? I was always amazed to watch the attachment that these Ukrainian protestants had to the likes of Benny Hinn. 🙂

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack


    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out.
     
    I thought that Baptists and Pentecostals live a higher morality, basing their every move on Biblical principles, not bamboozled by the religious accoutrements that are prevalent within the Orthodox and Catholic confessions?

    Most likely amoral Russians that learned about Visas for the religiously persecuted. It's well known that the Russian government tries to suppress protestant churches and especially the Baptists. A tidbit not discussed by Tucker and other conservatives that try to maintain the fantasy of a frozen conservative wonderland.

  390. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    This excitement doesn’t have much to do with Korean troops. Your buddy is floating one version of the party line, that all Ukraine will be subsumed into an enlarged Novorossiya.

    That would be Putin's Jewish buddy and not mine. Putin thinks the Jews are great and in June praised them in a speech. But weirdly at Unz we have Jew haters that will call you a Jewish agent if you are against Russia. Amusingly they will accuse you of supporting world Jewry.....for being against a war led by a dictator who praises the Jews and buries Orthodox men. Makes perfect sense if you bash yourself in the head long enough.

    The few Russians that I know are ashamed of being Russian and don't want to talk about the war. One already went native. He gets offended if you bring up Russia around him or make Russian jokes. He gained full American citizenship and has declared himself to be an ex-Russian.

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised by or upset over minor DPRK involvement with the SMO.

    I'm not at all surprised. Trading oil for North Korean soldiers is cheaper than paying Russians. Ironically Russian contractors are becoming too expensive for Putin.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Russia is probably applying more people to the war effort working and managing her gradually re-energized industrial facilities. I wonder how many post-1990’s diaspora Russians are returning home to be part of this apparent revival?

    Jewish people play a powerful role in Russia, Ukraine and the USA; Putin is known to be very sensitive to their interests. However, the Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish.

    I wonder if there will be BRICS peacekeeping brigades in post-SMO Ukraine?

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @QCIC


    Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish
     
    Eternal classics by Rahan should not be forgotten;)

    https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/UNxMC2.jpg

    https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/UNxmJR.jpg


    The idea was of Mr. Shoigu who is a shamanic-Buddhist from Tuva, and the interior designer is also a shamanist from neighboring Buryatia, Mr. Namdakov.

    Who else should design Orthodox Christian mega-temples? What are you, some kind of racist?

    So. Two Mongoloid shamanists are the people behind the crypto-Mithraist military mega-temple.

    Just a bunch of fellow white Orthodox Slavs doing their thing.

    Mithra? Gilgamesh? Elric? Noooo. What? Noooo. Pfff, noooo.
     

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-nationalist-turn/#comment-4928901

    Replies: @QCIC

  391. @AP
    @Matra

    It's just Socialist morality. Diaspora Ukrainians had similar complaints when post-Soviet Ukrainians showed up in the West after 1990. Within Ukraine, the least Soviet are the most decent: Galicians. They are a lot like Poles. But, like them, they are still not quite as clean as those who have been untainted by Socialism. Eastern Ukrainians are a lot worse. Polish attitudes towards Ukrainians have gotten worse as the western and central Ukrainians have returned home and have been replaced by more Sovietized Eastern Ukrainians whom the Russians have ethnically cleansed from eastern Ukraine.

    I've heard that established Armenians in LA had similar complaints about Soviet Armenians who also came in the 1990s.

    In the 1990s Russian grad students were notorious for their hijinks. One guy I knew, now a very well-respected professor and leader in his field, would sit all day at a buffet while doing coursework, essentially getting 2 unlimited meals for the price of 1 (more, because he would take out food also). It was a chain and didn't have policies for people like that. Some others figured out a scheme to get a lot of free groceries due to some loophole in the coupon system at Kroger's.

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California's generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    Soviet socialism corrupts, unfortunately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    Would you consider me forging a homework pass in 10th grade because I somehow accidentally ended up losing one of mine and then getting severely punished for this by my teacher (though I was able to compensate for this by getting a 93% on the class final) an example of ex-Soviet morality?

  392. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russia would have also massively benefitted from bringing both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO
     
    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia? Russia had never cultivated idiotic ambition to expand to Nicaragua or Mexico.

    To paraphrase your silly statement: The US military industrial complexes would have massively benefited from bringing both Nicaragua and Mexico under the military agreement with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Have you thought for a moment as to why the NATO (low intelligence warmongers) want NATO in Ukraine or Georgia?

    Well go ahead and explain the military strategy.

    Explain why they need bases in Ukraine and Georgia when they have Baltics and submarines in the Atlantic that can level Russia.

  393. @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.
     
    I thought that Baptists and Pentecostals live a higher morality, basing their every move on Biblical principles, not bamboozled by the religious accoutrements that are prevalent within the Orthodox and Catholic confessions? I was always amazed to watch the attachment that these Ukrainian protestants had to the likes of Benny Hinn. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California’s generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out.

    I thought that Baptists and Pentecostals live a higher morality, basing their every move on Biblical principles, not bamboozled by the religious accoutrements that are prevalent within the Orthodox and Catholic confessions?

    Most likely amoral Russians that learned about Visas for the religiously persecuted. It’s well known that the Russian government tries to suppress protestant churches and especially the Baptists. A tidbit not discussed by Tucker and other conservatives that try to maintain the fantasy of a frozen conservative wonderland.

  394. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Russia is probably applying more people to the war effort working and managing her gradually re-energized industrial facilities. I wonder how many post-1990's diaspora Russians are returning home to be part of this apparent revival?

    Jewish people play a powerful role in Russia, Ukraine and the USA; Putin is known to be very sensitive to their interests. However, the Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish.

    I wonder if there will be BRICS peacekeeping brigades in post-SMO Ukraine?

    Replies: @sudden death

    Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish

    Eternal classics by Rahan should not be forgotten;)

    The idea was of Mr. Shoigu who is a shamanic-Buddhist from Tuva, and the interior designer is also a shamanist from neighboring Buryatia, Mr. Namdakov.

    Who else should design Orthodox Christian mega-temples? What are you, some kind of racist?

    So. Two Mongoloid shamanists are the people behind the crypto-Mithraist military mega-temple.

    Just a bunch of fellow white Orthodox Slavs doing their thing.

    Mithra? Gilgamesh? Elric? Noooo. What? Noooo. Pfff, noooo.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-nationalist-turn/#comment-4928901

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @sudden death

    I know, it is a bit weird. I wrote "does not seem very Jewish" which is different from "classic Russian orthodox"! Not that I really know. If some Unz "expert" told me the cathedral was actually built in some classic esoteric Kabbalistic style I wouldn't be completely shocked :)

    I wonder if they keep the alien corpses from Tunguska (1908) or Chelyabinsk (2013) in the crypt?

  395. @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    Both you and songbird have very inquisitive minds, something that I appreciate in people.


    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can’t handle the truth.
     
    I believe you. Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don't understand where you're coming from (or where you're going). :-)

    except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

     

    Are you using hallucinatory drugs and tripping out? It's been a long time since I did any tripping, and wonder what that's like in this day and age? Do you use settings in Mother Nature, or perhaps more contrived settings like a special house with piped in music, etc; Do you remember the time that Karlin described his Christmas/New Year's trip viewing the holiday lights? I've read that current imbibers are experimenting with micro dosages...

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

     

    Sure, why not? He seems like a very sociable sort of guy and must be a great conversationalist. Sharing some good food and wine with Ron would be very cool. :-)

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    No peyote since 19 or 20 y. o. No acid since approx 23 y. o. No psy. mushrooms since approx 33 y. o. No ayahuasca, ketamine, ecstasy, DMT, PCP ever. I have seen people on ketamine, ecstasy, DMT, and PCP and do not get the appeal. Peyote is physically revolting.

    Hallucinogens are for young people. Psy. mushrooms always gave me diarrhea. When I get high now I restrict myself to cannabis, alcohol, and tobacco. Did I leave anything out? All humans are different. All those pills the doctors are giving everybody for their mental illness are dangerous. The only drugs that I consider safe for routine regular consumption are caffeine and aspirin.

    It is beneficial when getting high to drink all the water you can. Like a gallon of it.

  396. Do Mr. Hack and A123 agree on any other scifi novels?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Do you expect me to read his mind? You know that he's permanently banned me to his version of the outer regions of censorship, the Gulag Archipelago. Or, most likely, the coward pretends that he has.

    https://external-preview.redd.it/self-isolation-v0-y6CxZVvy-9NfKE5vgPRmzC1OFC55fmgbZss-n_raXMY.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c91719f58487b6e51cb31e469b381f8a89dbead0
    kremlinstoogA123's true and tried method of dealing with opposing viewpoints that. he cannot successfully counter. :-(

    Replies: @songbird

  397. @Mr. Hack
    @emil nikola richard

    Both you and songbird have very inquisitive minds, something that I appreciate in people.


    Nobody in the real world has a clue what I really think about anything. They can’t handle the truth.
     
    I believe you. Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don't understand where you're coming from (or where you're going). :-)

    except for the once per month or so that I get mind-altered.

     

    Are you using hallucinatory drugs and tripping out? It's been a long time since I did any tripping, and wonder what that's like in this day and age? Do you use settings in Mother Nature, or perhaps more contrived settings like a special house with piped in music, etc; Do you remember the time that Karlin described his Christmas/New Year's trip viewing the holiday lights? I've read that current imbibers are experimenting with micro dosages...

    Do you think Ron Unz gets invited to family Thanksgiving party?

     

    Sure, why not? He seems like a very sociable sort of guy and must be a great conversationalist. Sharing some good food and wine with Ron would be very cool. :-)

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).

    I enjoy Emil’s nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a “whale psychiatrist”, which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Really? I saw somewhere that all the heavy hitters (or wannabes) have been seen with black eyes or eye wounds somehow related to their adrenochrome habit. Except for Barry Sotero who got punched by Big Mike for cavorting with the chef.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Transcript: https://turboscribe.ai/transcript/share/8052436133745838085/eQ5vQfeXHbb91e9oU4BX17eXbzaiiSbhFHAhWYHo4RM/full-transcript-donald-trump-and-joe-rogan-2219-https-youtu-be-hbmopuaelny

    Trump did a long riff on windmill energy sucks. He claimed the offshore windmills make vibrations that drive the whales crazy. Rogan didn't fact check him on that or anything else.

    Kudos to Rogan. I still can't believe they did 3 hours. At my current listening pace it will probably take me four days to listen to all of it.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.
     
    Sometimes, being blind in one eye helps the remaining one to grow spiritually:

    https://live.staticflickr.com/2802/4404300753_719d80a68f_b.jpg

    "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King"

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Trump said he wanted to be a “whale psychiatrist”, which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)
     
    I'd caution Trump to be careful in making any wishes:

    https://www.biblecartoons.co.uk/images/128.jpg
  398. @sudden death
    @QCIC


    Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces (2020) does not seem very Jewish
     
    Eternal classics by Rahan should not be forgotten;)

    https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/UNxMC2.jpg

    https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/UNxmJR.jpg


    The idea was of Mr. Shoigu who is a shamanic-Buddhist from Tuva, and the interior designer is also a shamanist from neighboring Buryatia, Mr. Namdakov.

    Who else should design Orthodox Christian mega-temples? What are you, some kind of racist?

    So. Two Mongoloid shamanists are the people behind the crypto-Mithraist military mega-temple.

    Just a bunch of fellow white Orthodox Slavs doing their thing.

    Mithra? Gilgamesh? Elric? Noooo. What? Noooo. Pfff, noooo.
     

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-nationalist-turn/#comment-4928901

    Replies: @QCIC

    I know, it is a bit weird. I wrote “does not seem very Jewish” which is different from “classic Russian orthodox”! Not that I really know. If some Unz “expert” told me the cathedral was actually built in some classic esoteric Kabbalistic style I wouldn’t be completely shocked 🙂

    I wonder if they keep the alien corpses from Tunguska (1908) or Chelyabinsk (2013) in the crypt?

  399. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).
     
    I enjoy Emil's nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a "whale psychiatrist", which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Really? I saw somewhere that all the heavy hitters (or wannabes) have been seen with black eyes or eye wounds somehow related to their adrenochrome habit. Except for Barry Sotero who got punched by Big Mike for cavorting with the chef.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    IMO, Barack and Michelle are probably within ~1 SD of the medium masculinity/femininity index of their group, with Barack probably being pretty close to the medium for a mulatto East African. And Michelle being like 1 SD away, maybe. But closer for a power seeker.

    Trudeau and Macron seem further off.
    _______
    Did not expect this to happen in former Yugoslavia.
    https://twitter.com/okok647/status/1850228825218548196

    Replies: @QCIC

  400. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).
     
    I enjoy Emil's nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a "whale psychiatrist", which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Transcript: https://turboscribe.ai/transcript/share/8052436133745838085/eQ5vQfeXHbb91e9oU4BX17eXbzaiiSbhFHAhWYHo4RM/full-transcript-donald-trump-and-joe-rogan-2219-https-youtu-be-hbmopuaelny

    Trump did a long riff on windmill energy sucks. He claimed the offshore windmills make vibrations that drive the whales crazy. Rogan didn’t fact check him on that or anything else.

    Kudos to Rogan. I still can’t believe they did 3 hours. At my current listening pace it will probably take me four days to listen to all of it.

    • Thanks: songbird
  401. @Mikel
    @Dmitry

    from the previous thread https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-260/#comment-6819868

    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.
     
    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    "To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates
    in U.S. counties j)"

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

    If you imagine (this is a science fiction example) you multiplied Espanola, NM to 1200 different alternative universes to create the same population as Japan and then recorded the number of murders in a year, then the mean number of murders you record after dividing by the 120,000,000 residents of Espanola NM from the 1200 different universes, would be almost the same as the true murder rate.
     
    I'm not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.

    If we say that a poll favors Trump 52-48 with a margin of error 3.5, or if we say that yearly rainfall in Las Vegas is 2 inches +/- 1 inch, it is very clear what we are saying: for a given confidence level (eg 95%), if we repeat the exercise of sampling the electorate or the yearly rainfall observation enough times, the result will fall within those intervals.

    For the confidence interval of the murder rate in Espanola, NM I am not sure what your confidence intervals are saying, unless we treat this rate as a temporal series.

    This is what I was trying to say in a previous comment about the nonexistence of a "natural murder rate of Chicago". Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates. But a Poisson distribution implies that there is an underlying constant rate. This may be a good approximation for chronic disease incidence rates but I don't think we can assume the same for stochastic data like murder events that are highly influenced by environmental factors: policing, severity of penalties, gang activity, poverty, demographic changes, etc. If we go back in time just some years the people committing murders today were not even alive so there is no a priori reason to expect a constant rate. The Poisson distribution also assumes lack of auto-correlation in the data but this is another dubious assumption for homicide rates.

    I'm pretty sure that data analysts have sophisticated tools to properly analyze all kinds of data. For example, in climatological studies I've seen papers published where they used the method of in-filling from nearby weather stations when they had data discontinuity, which perhaps can also be applied to this case, but I don't think we can do much better than building temporal series to compare "true" rates of homicides between heterogeneous population sizes.

    For example, imagine there is a political crisis in Mexico, which causes secession to smaller states. This is peaceful secession movement and has no effect on the country, just it divides to smaller states which have populations similar Jamaica or Lithuania.

    This only administrative change, would cause the top of the Wikipedia list for the highest homicide rates in the world to become mostly successor states of Mexico. Colima would be position 2, Baja California would be in position 3, Chihuahua would be position 4, Guanajuato would be position 5, Zacatecas will be position 6, Michoacan will be position 7.

    .../...

    But nothing would have changed in terms of murder in the real world. Just the range in the list is changing because of the introduction of more smaller administrative divisions.
     
    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Dmitry

    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.

    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    “To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates in U.S. counties j)”

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

    I think you misunderstand the text a bit, but without just trying to sound more polite than earlier, in this case it’s really my fault, because it’s a book of ideas to use in the classroom. I also combined quotes from two different lessons, one from the beginning of the course, one from the end of the course, so it makes the discussion confusing by mixing two lessons.

    He’s not saying the multi-year reported rate is the same as the true rate.

    It seems like he’s using a ten year average like this because it’s an easier teaching example for the students to calculate an expected rate. I’ll try to explain later.

    In this lesson, the true rate is created from a simulation and some students have to choose it randomly from an envelope.

    I’m not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.

    It’s not like a debate where we can have different ways of looking at it. In this context, the statisticians’ meaning of the true rate, or underlying rate, is the observed rate minus randomness.

    Annual changes in the reported rate in Espanola NM is useful because it helps to show the instability in the observed rate between years at this population size.

    This is helpful in our discussion because you were wondering why we should use a confidence interval even when our sample is the complete dataset.

    The confidence interval is trying to estimate the likely values between which we can say the true rate is existing.

    When we say this true rate is minus randomness, what do we mean? This randomness is statisticians’ randomness, which is not the concept of randomness used in physics, but relates to our intuitive concept of randomness. For example, if you flip a coin one time, in classical mechanics the result is not random, but from the view of human intention and our sensory ability, this is random.

    So, how does this randomness relate to murder rate.

    For example, when an assassin tried to murder Trump in July. Trump said he moved his head to look at a signpost just before the bullet missed or only affected the ear. We can think about this like a coin flip. It’s random if Trump will be murdered or not in this example.

    Imagine, Trump is in Espanola NM. The murder rate of the city would be 9,5 this year if the bullet goes to the intended target, but the murder rate of the city will be 0 this year if Trump looks at the sign so the bullet only affects the ear.

    We can intuitively understand that an observed murder rate in Espanola NM has a very high exposure to randomness. If we try to infer the true murder rate from the observed murder rate, we need very wide confidence intervals, as the confidence intervals are estimating the murder rate minus randomness, not the observed rate.

    But what about the murder rate of the USA? How does the randomness in the Trump assassination influence the murder rate. If he was killed, it would change the murder rate by only around 0,001. The sample of the USA is large enough to remove most of the influence of this type of randomness from the observed murder rate.

    How can we think about this in relation to Espanola NM? If you imagine running around 3200 simulations of the city for a year then dividing by the population across all these simulations, or 3200 alternative universes, we have the same exposure of randomness on the city murder rate as for the USA murder rate. This is just a description of the statistical concept like a metaphor, it’s not requiring you to believe in alternative universes.

    But it might be easier to explain this to the coin flip metaphor?

    If you imagine you flip the coin one time and we receive heads. The observed rate of the heads could be described like 1:1 between heads:flip.

    So, even though we sample the complete dataset, our observed rate of heads will be very different from the true rate of heads, unless it’s a scammer’s coin.

    If you then flip the coin one time each year, for ten years, then the coin’s observed rate of heads will on average converge closer to 1:2 as heads:flip than in single year flip. So, adding the samples of additional years will improve our convergence, but in this example the data of 10 years would still not generate enough power for a very accurate estimate of coin’s true rate of heads per flip

    Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates

    He’s using part of the lesson to teach the students to try adding an expected rate, as one of the skills he wants them to try, so they can use the 10-year mean So, I guess in our example, using the data for Espanola NM, if we continue drawing the line with Poisson we expect there will be a 59% probability of at least a murder in the next year after our samples ended.

    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered

    We have been on a discussion about statistical power, but although this is part of the issue, it isn’t the main reason for the distribution in the top of the list.

    Our main reason is because if you use smaller divisions, you increase the range between these divisions. It’s because they are divided by the population.

    The kidney cancer example includes both of these issues and it’s being used in the book mainly to teach about statistical power, but if we wanted to isolate and teach the main reason for our discussion, we probably should use an example where there isn’t distinction between the true and observed rate, so we can avoid the discussion about statistical power.

    We could an example of annual income, as it’s a socially constructed data in a way there is no distinction between a true and observed rate, allowing us to avoid discussing statistical power.

    In the USA, the range of income between counties is a lot higher than between states, because the smaller division of the country divides by a smaller population.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for states is $24,672.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for countries is $67,824.

    So, switching from list of states to list of counties, we are increasing the range of income in the construction of the list by 2,75 times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income)

    How can we compare this to our discussion? I you want to imagine a heterogeneous list which mixes a sample of states and also some counties also.

    Like, if we have a list of states and also add randomly to our list of states, 100 counties from the sample of over 3000 counties.

    Of course, just by creating a heterogeneous list including from both types of division, we expect the items in the top and bottom of the list will be counties, because they are divided by smaller populations.

    Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?

    Olympic champions could be a comparison, although they are even more rare events than murders so in reality we would have issues with this.

    Imagine a sports scientist working for Kim Jong Un wants to learn about the secret of producing the highest rates of Olympic champions.

    He wants to talk to the local government officials, look at the schools, explore the diet or study the genetics of the local populations.

    It’s important he finds the place which really has these secrets, as he will be executed if he learns lessons from the incorrect destination.

    He finds Jamaica has a high rate of Olympic champions. But the state of Baja California has maybe over 50% higher rate of Olympic champions than Jamaica, even with having a 35% larger population than Jamaica? Of course, this is a science fiction example for sport, but it would be true if we compare murder rates in 2020.

    Where should a sports scientist visit? Jamaica or Baja California?

    He also looks at the Wikipedia list. But he would know, outside from the discussion about statistical power, the range of the list is expanded because of including different size divisions, which just expands the range of the values of the means when the sample size within the division is smaller.

    It’s an arbitrary result of the way the list has been formed and that’s typical thing you would adjust for, for example if you were investigating something more normal than Olympic champions, like kidney cancer rates, where the national component is less important. Olympic champions is actually even an example which reifies a national division more than murder rates, as the item used by the Olympics is a national team.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Dmitry

    I think that by getting too much into the weeds we are totally losing perspective of what the original discussion was about: what does the fact that Caribbean islands dominate the Wikipedia ranking of highest homicide rates in the world tell us?

    This has finally evolved into a highbrow discussion on the difference between statistical randomness and physical or "true" randomness, which is not what I expected and is a positive development for these threads, but the answer to that original question should be very clear by now and we should not forget it.

    To be clear, the fact that these islands appear in the first places of that list is NOT an artifact of the small size that some (but not all) of them have. It is well noted that, as you explained, in any such ranking units with small populations will tend to occupy both tails of the list but I have already explained in several ways why this is not quite what than ranking shows us.

    First of all, though, let's also clarify something that should have been obvious from the beginning. All we are looking at on that list is what the title of the list says: homicide rates for one year (the one with the latest data) for all countries in the world (which, as everybody knows, are very different in size, heterogeneity, data collection ability, etc). So we're just looking at a snapshot of what things looked like the last time we could compare them all. Nobody in their right mind would expect this snapshot to show the same ranking as the previous or the next one and logically, if instead of comparing countries and territories, we were comparing different units, the results would look different.

    Having said that, do Caribbean countries appear at the top of the list just because many of them are small? Let's reiterate the various ways we know this is NOT the case:

    a) As your kidney cancer textbook example showed, small population units are expected to appear on both tails of an incidence list. This is more or less what we observe on the Wikipedia list, with one important exception: they are not geographically randomly distributed. The top of the list is full of Caribbean countries, small and not so small, whereas the bottom of the list also has many small countries but they are from Europe, Asia, Oceania, etc. This is similar to having a kidney cancer list of counties where we observe, as expected, many small counties on both ends of the list but the top ones are clustered around Nebraska whereas the bottom ones are randomly distributed across the rest of the US. The obvious conclusion would be that there is some environmental factor causing excess kidney cancer around Nebraska.

    b) As I showed with the macrotrends.net 5-year lists, Caribbean countries dominate the rankings in each the available years (2017 through 2021) and on the 5-year average, even though this list does not include some of the most prominent Caribbean countries in the Wikipedia list:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/ranking/murder-homicide-rate

    The answer to the question is unequivocal right there.

    c) In a more formal way, we could use the statistical infilling method that I mentioned in one of my comments. Let's suppose that we are looking at the annual temperature record of Salt Lake City and we see that the 1930 were the hottest decade but we only have 5 years of observations for SLC that decade. We could very legitimately wonder if the 30s show as the hottest decade just because we don't have enough data for that decade. However, let's imagine that we do have data for 3 of the remaining years at the nearby Ogden weather station and they also show similarly high values. Now we are much more confident that the 30s must have really been one of the hottest decades in SLC area. Furthermore, we have some sparse data from the 30s for another nearby station, Wendover, that includes the missing 2 years, and they were equally hot. Our confidence that the 30s were abnormally hot in SLC is now extremely high.

    We see exactly the same thing on the Wikipedia list. The country with the highest rate is Turks and Caicos but we can perfectly assume that this is just a statistical fluke due to its small population and tells us nothing about the Caribbean region. But then we see that the second is Jamaica, a decent-sized Caribbean nation. We start to grow more confident that the Caribbean region has high homicide rates. Next we see that number 3 is the Virgin Islands. And number 5 is Haiti (a rather big Caribbean country). And numbers 6, 7 9, 11 are also Caribbean,... what can a rational person conclude just from a cursory analysis of this data?



    He’s using part of the lesson to teach the students to try adding an expected rate, as one of the skills he wants them to try, so they can use the 10-year mean So, I guess in our example, using the data for Espanola NM, if we continue drawing the line with Poisson we expect there will be a 59% probability of at least a murder in the next year after our samples ended.
     
    I don't want to distract from the main point that I have discussed above but I would like to re-iterate one important thing: different types of data require different statistical tools and choosing the right model is crucial if we want to derive correct inferences. My rusty knowledge of statistics tells me that we cannot just plug in a one-size fits all equation and calculate confidence intervals that tell us very little about the underlying reality.

    It was actually me who likened homicide rates to disease incidence rates but when it comes to applying formal data analysis, there are obvious differences that make a big difference on whether applying a Poisson distribution model and calculating CIs from it or not is reasonable. I don't know enough statistics to say what model we should use to calculate the "real" homicide rate in Española but I do know that a Poisson distribution is a very imperfect assumption. In any US town the homicide rate for one random year is going to be determined by many variables that look difficult to incorporate in a model: the number of policemen on the street, proactive arrests versus lax policing, strict versus lenient prosecutors in office, arrival of new migrants, presence or absence or gangs, poverty increasing or decreasing, copycat elements after nationwide events that increase the sense of impunity (eg BLM riots), etc. None of this can de assumed to be constant from one year to another but they all affect directly how many murders are committed. In a Poisson distribution we are assuming that there is a constant underlying rate, which is not the case with murder rates, and that there is no auto-correlation: again, an incorrect assumption. At any given location the murder rate for the year 2024 is much more likely to be similar to the 2023 rate than to the 1980 rate. So I am very skeptical that CIs derived from an equation built on just one year of data and total population in Española tell me anything of value.
  402. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Really? I saw somewhere that all the heavy hitters (or wannabes) have been seen with black eyes or eye wounds somehow related to their adrenochrome habit. Except for Barry Sotero who got punched by Big Mike for cavorting with the chef.

    Replies: @songbird

    IMO, Barack and Michelle are probably within ~1 SD of the medium masculinity/femininity index of their group, with Barack probably being pretty close to the medium for a mulatto East African. And Michelle being like 1 SD away, maybe. But closer for a power seeker.

    Trudeau and Macron seem further off.
    _______
    Did not expect this to happen in former Yugoslavia.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Is this as bad as it sounds or is something else going on? The bad version is that a combination of crazy ideology, bribes and political manipulation is causing this to happen. An alternative explanation might have something to do with repatriation of Croats from other locations including Balkan countries. In that case are there measures incorporated to reduce abuse of the policy by non-Croats?

  403. @Matra
    Interesting photos in the link below the fold of graduating medical students from a Ukrainian university, temporarily located in Poland. They don't look like Slavs to me. Wonder how many will stay in Poland or Ukraine?



    Link

    Also, did you know the Koran is now being taught to prisoners in Poland in some joint programme between a Muslim foundation and prison authorities? Do those famously based Polish conservatives have anything to say about this or the recent plan to build a large mosque in central Warsaw? I'm guessing they just see it as being the price to pay for being NATO/EU members in good standing.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    The universities generate more income from the foreign students, than from the local students. It’s like in Russia, although I somehow doubt more the poor Ukrainian government nowadays includes a lot of scholarships for foreign students. In Russia, the government has a lot of money to give scholarships to give to foreign students.

    In Russia, the mix of the capitalist/socialist model in the universities, creates a situation where the universities generally seem to prioritize a lot of the foreign students above the local students.

    It’s typical with the university’s housing. The newer or nicer housing will be usually given to the foreign students, who are creating more income for the university than the local students.

    These foreign students almost never would want to continue to live in the country after graduating, although there are a few examples in Russia of famous people descended from foreign students, also even a local politician in Russia who was an African student. Those are famous and emphasized, if we are honest, mainly because they are unusual.

  404. How is it that Belarus has 2x the per capita potato consumption of Ireland? And Ukraine nearly so also?

    Is it all the yam-eating foreigners in Ireland?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Potatoes are easy to grow in cold weather areas and don't require rich soil or maintenance.

    , @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Does the potato input to vodka manufacture count as potato consumption? The stereotype is they drink a lot of vodka.

    Also east European potatoes are the world's finest as latw can testify. I heard McDonald's wants to do a hostile takeover of the east Europe potato farms.

    Trump said his McDonald's show was an all-time top ten google search string.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13993869/amp/mcdonalds-armed-guards-donald-trump-yelp-reviews.html

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    They eat meat and dairy these days. It’s lush pasture there.

  405. @songbird
    How is it that Belarus has 2x the per capita potato consumption of Ireland? And Ukraine nearly so also?

    Is it all the yam-eating foreigners in Ireland?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @emil nikola richard, @Wokechoke

    Potatoes are easy to grow in cold weather areas and don’t require rich soil or maintenance.

  406. @songbird
    @QCIC

    IMO, Barack and Michelle are probably within ~1 SD of the medium masculinity/femininity index of their group, with Barack probably being pretty close to the medium for a mulatto East African. And Michelle being like 1 SD away, maybe. But closer for a power seeker.

    Trudeau and Macron seem further off.
    _______
    Did not expect this to happen in former Yugoslavia.
    https://twitter.com/okok647/status/1850228825218548196

    Replies: @QCIC

    Is this as bad as it sounds or is something else going on? The bad version is that a combination of crazy ideology, bribes and political manipulation is causing this to happen. An alternative explanation might have something to do with repatriation of Croats from other locations including Balkan countries. In that case are there measures incorporated to reduce abuse of the policy by non-Croats?

  407. @songbird
    How is it that Belarus has 2x the per capita potato consumption of Ireland? And Ukraine nearly so also?

    Is it all the yam-eating foreigners in Ireland?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @emil nikola richard, @Wokechoke

    Does the potato input to vodka manufacture count as potato consumption? The stereotype is they drink a lot of vodka.

    Also east European potatoes are the world’s finest as latw can testify. I heard McDonald’s wants to do a hostile takeover of the east Europe potato farms.

    Trump said his McDonald’s show was an all-time top ten google search string.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13993869/amp/mcdonalds-armed-guards-donald-trump-yelp-reviews.html

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard


    Does the potato input to vodka manufacture count as potato consumption?
     
    Probably a good part of the explanation. I wish I had the historical figures in my head for Ireland to make the comparison to modern Belarus.

    Trump said his McDonald’s show
     
    Am not a fan of the new architecture.

    It is funny to think about, if we consider that the changes in some way probably reflect some demographic element.

    The shift away from children either having to do with falling TFR, or else how they went all out advertising to blacks for a few years, and this ruined their family-friendly reputation. Then there is the additional class element, as it gained the reputation for being unhealthy food, and they tried to recapture this element.

    But according to this, it is a German/Azerbaijani female duo who created it.
    https://corporate.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/our-stories/article/meet-team-making-modern-sustainable-mcd.html
  408. @songbird
    Do Mr. Hack and A123 agree on any other scifi novels?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Do you expect me to read his mind? You know that he’s permanently banned me to his version of the outer regions of censorship, the Gulag Archipelago. Or, most likely, the coward pretends that he has.
    kremlinstoogA123’s true and tried method of dealing with opposing viewpoints that. he cannot successfully counter. 🙁

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you expect me to read his mind?
     
    You both seem to have sympathetic ESP, when it comes to certain subjects.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  409. @Supply and Demand
    @A123

    We whipped DeSantis.
    We’re whipping Trump, next.

    Replies: @doclove

    Then the USA will fall faster and harder under Kamala Harris so you will be whipped too if you live in the USA. If you live in China and are not of pure Chinese descent or at least a pure East Asian person of another nationality then you will be whipped sooner and harder when the USA falls. By the way, East Asians like Gentile Whites better than the other races so even if East Asians treat Gentile Whites poorly then it will still be better than all the races. I as a Gentile White will love to see you get whipped harder and more often than me just because you refused to believe the truth that Gentile Whites are the most just, fair and benevolent of all the races to every human being no matter what his or her race is. The word on the street is that your idiot whore mother wishes she aborted you. Is this true?

  410. @AP
    @Matra

    It's just Socialist morality. Diaspora Ukrainians had similar complaints when post-Soviet Ukrainians showed up in the West after 1990. Within Ukraine, the least Soviet are the most decent: Galicians. They are a lot like Poles. But, like them, they are still not quite as clean as those who have been untainted by Socialism. Eastern Ukrainians are a lot worse. Polish attitudes towards Ukrainians have gotten worse as the western and central Ukrainians have returned home and have been replaced by more Sovietized Eastern Ukrainians whom the Russians have ethnically cleansed from eastern Ukraine.

    I've heard that established Armenians in LA had similar complaints about Soviet Armenians who also came in the 1990s.

    In the 1990s Russian grad students were notorious for their hijinks. One guy I knew, now a very well-respected professor and leader in his field, would sit all day at a buffet while doing coursework, essentially getting 2 unlimited meals for the price of 1 (more, because he would take out food also). It was a chain and didn't have policies for people like that. Some others figured out a scheme to get a lot of free groceries due to some loophole in the coupon system at Kroger's.

    Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Baptists and Pentacostals have had a field day taking advantage of California's generous welfare system in ways that Latinos could never figure out. They were buying million dollar homes while on welfare, and able to technically avoid committing crimes while doing so.

    Soviet socialism corrupts, unfortunately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn’t something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn’t something which indicates she is cheating.

    Ukraine is a war zone, so that’s also not necessarily a fake refugee or only an economic immigrant. Usually, since 2022 the Ukrainians arriving in the West a mix of economic immigrants and real refugees, depending mainly on their region of origin. So, probably we would need to know their region of origin, before judging too much if they are a refugee or an economic immigrant.

    In the 1990s Russian grad

    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It’s not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It’s also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can’t predict if you will have food next harvest.

    It’s just Socialist morality.

    I know, this is part of the American Cold War ideology, to try to say every cultural difference between the USA and Russia, is because of socialism.

    But, it’s not matching to knowledge of history. In the 19th century, people had higher dependency on the government and with tricking the system, even than in the 20th century.

    And 19th century the panslavist historians, love the stories about how in the 17th century, beggars were more sophisticated, than in the 19th century.

    So, the social trust has not exactly been declining each century in some of these areas. Cheats in the 17th century, would view the cheats in the 20th century, as probably naive and not very sophisticated, if you can believe those stories.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Dmitry

    There are the arguments in the books by Richard Pipes (a famous Polish-American historian of Russia) that it reaches even further back into the past, and derives from the lack of a stable conception of property rights that was related to the origins of Tsarist state as a tributary of the Golden Horde.

    In this 'patrimonal state' everything was treated as ultimately belonging to the gosudar and being in his gift. I think Pipes argues that this was assumption was carried over even into late Tsarist times and was absorbed by the Soviet state when it took over the Tsarist apparatus.

    He makes this argument in various books like 'Russia under the Old Regime'.

    , @AP
    @Dmitry


    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It’s not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It’s also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can’t predict if you will have food next harvest.
     
    You seem to have made a good case that because this corruption and expertise at swindling the government predates the Soviet Union, it is not Soviet morality but rather Russian morality and therefore its presence is a marker of Russification rather than Sovietization.

    So the diaspora Armenians and Ukrainians who complained about their post-Soviet brothers were dealing with Russian rather than Soviet influence upon morality.

    However, the many Russian White emigres who fled West after the Revolution did not have these features and did not produce such a reputation.

    One can therefore conclude that it was not Russian morality in general, but rather the morality of downtrodden Russian peasants in particular (including those who had recently moved into cities to become proletarians), seeking to get one over on "the man" and take what they can, swindle and cheat, maybe even steal if they can get away with it. It is all understandable, they had very difficult lives and had to be cunning to survive.

    The Bolsheviks, having wiped or driven into exile the other classes who did not have this kind of morality (the nobility, the urban bourgeoise, the Cossacks, much of the intelligenstia), left these peasants and proles as the "default Russians." The Bolsheviks may have continued the Tsar-era legacy of promoting literacy and may have provided the ex-peasants and their descendants with a taste for ballet and literature, but they did not mess with their morality. Bolshevism was mostly about theft anyways, it was a convenient fit.

    And then they spread it to Armenia, Ukraine, Poland, etc. The areas with the longest period of Soviet rule were most influenced by ancient Russian peasant morality. So Galicia and Poland, less than Russia and eastern Ukraine.

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn’t something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn’t something which indicates she is cheating.
     
    Yes, this particular example by Matra probably wasn't a valid one. But the general point was not wrong.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  411. @songbird
    How is it that Belarus has 2x the per capita potato consumption of Ireland? And Ukraine nearly so also?

    Is it all the yam-eating foreigners in Ireland?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @emil nikola richard, @Wokechoke

    They eat meat and dairy these days. It’s lush pasture there.

  412. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Free Food is a black and Brown subsidy taken at a national level. Whites do not sign up for the dole and freebies at the rates blacks and browns do.

    Pointing out that Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to use food stamps does not negate a single thing that I stated.

    You seem upset that I am experienced with poor Whites and am not working from speculation. Has it taken you years to figure out that I do actually shop at Walmart and am not posting from Israel?

    There are millions of rural Whites that use food banks. Sorry if you and Fox News suburban conservatives don't like that reality and imagine every food line to be filled with Mexican gangsters and Black welfare queens.

    If you want to argue that their access to expired food and canned green beans should be shut off to spite Blacks and Hispanics then go ahead. Rand also believed that Christian charities should be shut down. Ironically she is beloved by Christian conservatives that don't actually read her books.

    Sure Jewboy, do your pilpul highlighting some rural backwater Charity of Alms where whites struggle economically and blacks barely show up.

    I'm pointing out the reality that is rural America. Everyone note that Wokechoke was not able to name a county in 92% White Vermont that does not have a food bank. Once again he lashes out by calling me a Jew when he simply doesn't have the facts and feels frustrated.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Stop your straw manning on people you Jewish freak.

    I never said that whites shouldn’t get free food. So much goes to waste from nightly bakery surplus that bread and pastry should be doled out as a matter of principle.

    I’d prefer good cuts of meat doled than have people waste their day working McDonalds, and other eat that slop. Better that people get free milk than pour it away etc.

    White people tend not to sign up for what ever state benefits they are legally entitled to at the same per capita rate as darkies, relying on churches and charity instead.

    You are such an obvious fake: Vermont then the Germanic Midwest. Little League Sports and Food pantries. All over the joint.

  413. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Do you expect me to read his mind? You know that he's permanently banned me to his version of the outer regions of censorship, the Gulag Archipelago. Or, most likely, the coward pretends that he has.

    https://external-preview.redd.it/self-isolation-v0-y6CxZVvy-9NfKE5vgPRmzC1OFC55fmgbZss-n_raXMY.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c91719f58487b6e51cb31e469b381f8a89dbead0
    kremlinstoogA123's true and tried method of dealing with opposing viewpoints that. he cannot successfully counter. :-(

    Replies: @songbird

    Do you expect me to read his mind?

    You both seem to have sympathetic ESP, when it comes to certain subjects.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    You may need to understand this info in order to proceed:

    https://youtu.be/lkQmAPty-zc

    Good Luck!

  414. Wow, this ZDF woman’s view of Frankfurt being worse than Detroit sounds really apocalyptic.

    [MORE]

    Btw, years ago, I had heard that Berlin has more debt than Detroit, but that is probably an unfair comparison, as Berlin is also a state.

  415. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you expect me to read his mind?
     
    You both seem to have sympathetic ESP, when it comes to certain subjects.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You may need to understand this info in order to proceed:

    Good Luck!

    • LOL: songbird
  416. @Dmitry
    @AP

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn't something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn't something which indicates she is cheating.

    Ukraine is a war zone, so that's also not necessarily a fake refugee or only an economic immigrant. Usually, since 2022 the Ukrainians arriving in the West a mix of economic immigrants and real refugees, depending mainly on their region of origin. So, probably we would need to know their region of origin, before judging too much if they are a refugee or an economic immigrant.


    In the 1990s Russian grad

     

    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It's not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It's also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can't predict if you will have food next harvest.


    It’s just Socialist morality.

     

    I know, this is part of the American Cold War ideology, to try to say every cultural difference between the USA and Russia, is because of socialism.

    But, it's not matching to knowledge of history. In the 19th century, people had higher dependency on the government and with tricking the system, even than in the 20th century.

    And 19th century the panslavist historians, love the stories about how in the 17th century, beggars were more sophisticated, than in the 19th century.

    So, the social trust has not exactly been declining each century in some of these areas. Cheats in the 17th century, would view the cheats in the 20th century, as probably naive and not very sophisticated, if you can believe those stories.


    https://i.imgur.com/pBebasA.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @AP

    There are the arguments in the books by Richard Pipes (a famous Polish-American historian of Russia) that it reaches even further back into the past, and derives from the lack of a stable conception of property rights that was related to the origins of Tsarist state as a tributary of the Golden Horde.

    In this ‘patrimonal state’ everything was treated as ultimately belonging to the gosudar and being in his gift. I think Pipes argues that this was assumption was carried over even into late Tsarist times and was absorbed by the Soviet state when it took over the Tsarist apparatus.

    He makes this argument in various books like ‘Russia under the Old Regime’.

  417. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Does the potato input to vodka manufacture count as potato consumption? The stereotype is they drink a lot of vodka.

    Also east European potatoes are the world's finest as latw can testify. I heard McDonald's wants to do a hostile takeover of the east Europe potato farms.

    Trump said his McDonald's show was an all-time top ten google search string.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13993869/amp/mcdonalds-armed-guards-donald-trump-yelp-reviews.html

    Replies: @songbird

    Does the potato input to vodka manufacture count as potato consumption?

    Probably a good part of the explanation. I wish I had the historical figures in my head for Ireland to make the comparison to modern Belarus.

    Trump said his McDonald’s show

    Am not a fan of the new architecture.

    It is funny to think about, if we consider that the changes in some way probably reflect some demographic element.

    The shift away from children either having to do with falling TFR, or else how they went all out advertising to blacks for a few years, and this ruined their family-friendly reputation. Then there is the additional class element, as it gained the reputation for being unhealthy food, and they tried to recapture this element.

    But according to this, it is a German/Azerbaijani female duo who created it.
    https://corporate.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/our-stories/article/meet-team-making-modern-sustainable-mcd.html

  418. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).
     
    I enjoy Emil's nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a "whale psychiatrist", which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    Sometimes, being blind in one eye helps the remaining one to grow spiritually:

    “In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King”

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Or in the aphorism of some blind boy I recall the media promoting one day "Lack of sight does not mean lack of vision."

    Have always been fascinated by the purported ancient connection between poetry and the blind. But I can't decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.
    ____
    Regarding the whale thing:

    Have not listened to it, but the way I see it: Trump is speaking to some of his rich supporters here. Many promote so called "green energy" but are very NIMBY when it comes to their ocean-front properties or yachting activities and private planes. Whales are a PC way to dress it up, that the dwellers near mountains don't have. The "Liberal Lion" Ted Kennedy was against ocean windmills near Martha's Vineyard.

    Of course, the population of humpbacks is reaching historic highs, so I find the idea that windmills are threatening whales somewhat dubious, although that is not to say they are necessarily good or make sense.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  419. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Although I generally find your comments to be interesting, sometimes I don’t understand where you’re coming from (or where you’re going).
     
    I enjoy Emil's nicknames, they remind me a bit of medieval annals. What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.

    BTW, i heard secondhand that in the Rogan interview, Trump said he wanted to be a "whale psychiatrist", which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Trump said he wanted to be a “whale psychiatrist”, which seems to me a very NYC thing to say. (I.e. psychiatrist vs. psychologist)

    I’d caution Trump to be careful in making any wishes:

  420. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    What is missing is references to someone blind in one eye. But very few celebrities these days have wounds of that type.
     
    Sometimes, being blind in one eye helps the remaining one to grow spiritually:

    https://live.staticflickr.com/2802/4404300753_719d80a68f_b.jpg

    "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King"

    Replies: @songbird

    Or in the aphorism of some blind boy I recall the media promoting one day “Lack of sight does not mean lack of vision.”

    Have always been fascinated by the purported ancient connection between poetry and the blind. But I can’t decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.
    ____
    Regarding the whale thing:

    Have not listened to it, but the way I see it: Trump is speaking to some of his rich supporters here. Many promote so called “green energy” but are very NIMBY when it comes to their ocean-front properties or yachting activities and private planes. Whales are a PC way to dress it up, that the dwellers near mountains don’t have. The “Liberal Lion” Ted Kennedy was against ocean windmills near Martha’s Vineyard.

    Of course, the population of humpbacks is reaching historic highs, so I find the idea that windmills are threatening whales somewhat dubious, although that is not to say they are necessarily good or make sense.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But I can’t decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.
     
    Why not let him just remain one eyed? Some modern day bards still celebrate these poor creatures:

    https://psychedelicsight.com/wp-content/uploads/king-crimson-cyclops.jpg
    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”

    Replies: @songbird

  421. On further review . . .

    Three biggest lies in the Trump pitch @ Joe the Bald.

    1. He is going to make america great again
    2. He is in great shape because of all the driving the golf cart around the golf course that he does
    3. He is not an attention whore

    The platform is identical to his opponent’s: they totally suck and I do not!

    The hair looked good. Joe the Bald’s good outfit was something most of us would never wear in public. Xi and Putin enjoyed the show I would estimate P~.9. Do they have a Joe Rogan Experience type podcast in Moscow?

    By the way McDonald’s does not sell people-food. It sells glorified pig slop. De Tocqueville would not be surprised.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville

  422. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Or in the aphorism of some blind boy I recall the media promoting one day "Lack of sight does not mean lack of vision."

    Have always been fascinated by the purported ancient connection between poetry and the blind. But I can't decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.
    ____
    Regarding the whale thing:

    Have not listened to it, but the way I see it: Trump is speaking to some of his rich supporters here. Many promote so called "green energy" but are very NIMBY when it comes to their ocean-front properties or yachting activities and private planes. Whales are a PC way to dress it up, that the dwellers near mountains don't have. The "Liberal Lion" Ted Kennedy was against ocean windmills near Martha's Vineyard.

    Of course, the population of humpbacks is reaching historic highs, so I find the idea that windmills are threatening whales somewhat dubious, although that is not to say they are necessarily good or make sense.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    But I can’t decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.

    Why not let him just remain one eyed? Some modern day bards still celebrate these poor creatures:


    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”
     
    Is that something they play on commercial radio?

    Am starting to wonder whether you play some instrument or were in a band.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  423. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Wow another cheerleading video from Putin's top British bootlicker who just happens to be not British and disbarred over fraud.

    Everything is going as planned comrades. Just keep watching Ritter/Duran/MacGregor and of course Larry C "War is in mop up stage" Johnson. Stick with media that sounds good and ignore videos like this one:

    Video of an Abrahms in Kursk:
    https://funker530.com/video/bradley-and-abrams-tag-team-russian-positions

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC, @Sean, @Derer

    ZALUZHNY SIGNALS, WAR IS LOST!

  424. @Beckow
    @emil nikola richard

    The Fed is pumping money like there is no tomorrow, it has to go somewhere, stocks, real estate...

    There is more than sufficient supply of the basic consumer goods, food, energy... so that inflation can be controlled. But the castles-in-the-sky assets based on the unlimited virtual money can only go on for so long. Even you must know that.

    In the meantime it is a lot of fun...:)

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Very loose fiscal policy normally requires a tight monetary policy.

    US Treasury yields, gold and the S&P are all soaring, not good.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @LondonBob

    THIS TIME IT'S DIFFERENT.

    Elon Musk and Sam Altman have new-manure with new-manure-skins for the new-money-tree. It turns out when your parents told you that money does not grow on trees their knowledge was limited to the LondonBob house. Money does grow on trees for some people.

    Just not you or me.

  425. @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Very loose fiscal policy normally requires a tight monetary policy.

    US Treasury yields, gold and the S&P are all soaring, not good.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    THIS TIME IT’S DIFFERENT.

    Elon Musk and Sam Altman have new-manure with new-manure-skins for the new-money-tree. It turns out when your parents told you that money does not grow on trees their knowledge was limited to the LondonBob house. Money does grow on trees for some people.

    Just not you or me.

  426. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin’s top British bootlicker
     
    Not sure saying Russia is winning is the way to go is you were a venal Westerner. There is likely more of a return for a pro Ukraine stance on social media for a YTer in Britain like him .

    Apart from their views going up if they highlight successes of the side their particular audience favours, I don't think it matters much what anyone says on social media in the West about how the war is going. It might if Washington was really on the cusp of full on aiding Ukraine to a complete victory, but the invasion was on Biden's watch and at not time has his administration given Ukraine even a fraction of what the US could (the American army have hundreds of Abrams tanks in storage). The Russian funds in the US are frozen but only the interest on them is being used to pay for aid to Ukraine.

    Arguably, Washington could enable Ukraine to decisively beat Russia, but not without producing a global geopolitical shift against America's interests in relation to future containment of China. Such a victory would clearly be of America over Russia (the navigation contour matching system is 100% American making it a US aimed attack whoever's long range missiles are being used to hit deep inside Russia). It is now getting on for three years later; the evidence is that Washington does not want Russia to be trounced in Ukraine.

    American strategist's clear preference is for Russia to more or less settle for their gains so far and quit fighting. That is not to say Washington will let Russia conquer all Ukraine. I think there is a sense that Russia is starting to gain momentum, and there is no feasible way of stopping their advances without trying to really defeat them, which Washington seems to have ruled out. So Washington is is now in a quandary that the Pentagon doubtless warned them about 18months ago, This fellow seems quite objective on how things are going in Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2fjrJt3LU&t=52s

    Replies: @Mikhail, @QCIC

    I finally watched this helpful German military review video on the Ukraine conflict from last week. It is a bit more informative than JJ’s war porn videos.

    Considering this is a NATO production and highly pro-Ukraine I think the message is that “Ukraine is done.” The speaker closes by emphasizing NATO preparation for the NEXT war.

    I suppose people who want more military aid for Ukraine do not understand the proxy war notion. The reason for starting a proxy war is that your country is unable or unwilling to start a real war. Meaning that the West never intended to give Ukraine full support. Doing so would simply be a full scale attack by the West on Russia which the more sane Western leaders would not allow. So the proxy war lives in a delimited conceptual zone where the West can attack Russia strongly without forcing Russia to immediately escalate they way she would in a full scale war. From a tactical perspective I think the West planned and prepared this fairly well. However, this was always profoundly risky since a successful proxy war campaign might simply lead to full scale war, most likely involving nuclear weapons. On the other hand, Russia also played her limited cards very well and stayed in long enough without dramatic escalation up to the present time where she can win this war on her own terms.

    At this point the tally is:

    – The Russian financial system survived several years of heavy, war-like sanctions.

    – The Russian agricultural complex is stronger than ever.

    – The Russian industrial complex is stronger than 2022 and much stronger than 2014.

    – The Russian political power structure seems intact and Putin is as strong as ever.

    – Russian strategic nuclear capabilities may now be stronger even than peak Soviet levels.

    – Russian conventional war fighting capabilities have gradually improved despite heavy losses in Ukraine.

    – Russian capability with hypersonic missiles is best in the world, for the moment.

    – Russia has demonstrated very effective drone and anti-drone warfare skill despite having one hand tied up (since this is a proxy war). The one hand is unwillingness to attack satellites which are important or possibly crucial to Western war fighting.

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected. However, Russia may publicly accept terms which are not as favorable as one would envision. I think the essential items are no NATO in Ukraine and restrictions on Western involvement in the country to avoid a flare up of the this mess in the next ten years. There will be a lot of room for Western and Ukrainian face saving.

    Whatever occurs, the Western MSM will spin it as a Russian failure so don’t be surprised if you need to read between the lines to understand what actually transpired.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC

    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper, or be about to, before Zelensky will concede. Assuming Zelesky does concede, Putin cannot just get an agreement brokered by the West, because that that would be just like Minsk, which neither Ukraine or the West would felt bound by once they had rearmed.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace. So I think Russia will at a minimum have to reach the Dniepner along almost its entire length.

    Replies: @AP

    , @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Austria isn't part of NATO, albeit they are a vassal of the US otherwise.

    Was it Trump, and Brexit, derangement that led to the left abandoning Obama's, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine. Still crazy to think people believed China wouldn't support Russia, not even India were going to join in any sanctions. Incompetent people.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected.

    Russia hasn't taken Kharkiv which is 30 minutes from the border.

    Ukraine is still in Kursk.

    Larry and his CIA pal were wrong about North Korean troops. They are being used for combat which shows that Russia does not have unlimited manpower. This reality seems to have broken a wall of delusion with Putin fans. They flipped out in the recent thread where this was discussed.

    I really don't know how you can say that Russia has effectively won when NATO has expanded East and Putin is nowhere close to getting Odessa (which he has emphatically stated is Russian).

    Kharkiv will have freezing temperatures next week. Putin needed to take Kharkiv by now.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

  427. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But I can’t decide whether the wandering bard character I discussed with Aaron should be blind or not.
     
    Why not let him just remain one eyed? Some modern day bards still celebrate these poor creatures:

    https://psychedelicsight.com/wp-content/uploads/king-crimson-cyclops.jpg
    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”

    Replies: @songbird

    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”

    Is that something they play on commercial radio?

    Am starting to wonder whether you play some instrument or were in a band.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Is that something they play on commercial radio?
     
    Nah, it's extremely unlikely that you'd be cruising down the highway and come across any King Crimson being broadcast thru the airwaves. They've always been a very avant garde grouping, however, have enjoyed a loyal following. I quit seriously following them after about their 6th album (their classic period), and only listened to them from a distance as they evolved through many iterations including changes in band members, styles and moods. They probably have put-out over 100 albums over the course of time.

    Am starting to wonder whether you play some instrument or were in a band.

     

    I tried being in a band only onetime. I played the piano and it all fizzled out quite quickly. I used to have vivid dreams where I'd stay in contact with George Harrison over the phone, but I don't think that that counts? :-)

    Their very first and probably their most popular album:

    https://open.spotify.com/album/75ol9OP8bJaRqzGimpFHDm?si=FkaCdxLpQ72XcJ_xfcj2Kg

  428. Cool little space nugget:

    Nimbus B blew up during launch, but its RTG was salvaged from the ocean and reused for another space mission.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_B

  429. Uniparty shills, especially Mikel, will find this distressing. One of his most beloved leaders is ceding his position: (1)

    Mitch McConnell, the longest-serving Senate leader in history who maintained his power in the face of dramatic convulsions in the Republican Party for almost two decades, will step down from that position in November.

    President Joe Biden, who has had a productive working relationship with McConnell, said he was sorry to hear the news.

    “I’ve trusted him and we have a great relationship,” the Democratic president said. “We fight like hell. But he has never, never, never misrepresented anything.”

    Additional good news. American Jews are supporting MAGA in record numbers: (2) [MORE]

    footage circulating on social media shows members of Jews for Trump attending the rally to prop up the former president. Apparently, they didn’t get the memo about the former president being “literally Hitler.”

    Poor, poor, Mikel. His obvious attempts to sabotage MAGA and divide Judeo-Christians are collapsing.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://apnews.com/article/mitch-mcconnell-senate-republican-leader-stepping-down-ba478d570a4561aa7baf91a204d7e366

    (2) https://redstate.com/jeffc/2024/10/27/jewish-people-attend-trump-nazi-rally-at-madison-square-garden-didnt-they-get-the-memo-n2181154

    [MORE]

  430. Do Indians call East Asians “rice bags?”. And don’t indians eat a lot of rice too?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @songbird

    Ricebag is a Indian slang for converts to Christianity.

    The stereotype is the Asian Christian is a descendant of a poor peasant who converted to Christianity by missionaries offering something as trivial as a bag of rice.Hence the slur Ricebag usually used for any Asian Christian who has disparaging remarks for Hinduism or broadly the present Hindu Nationalist Government in India.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

  431. @QCIC
    @Sean

    I finally watched this helpful German military review video on the Ukraine conflict from last week. It is a bit more informative than JJ's war porn videos.

    Considering this is a NATO production and highly pro-Ukraine I think the message is that "Ukraine is done." The speaker closes by emphasizing NATO preparation for the NEXT war.

    I suppose people who want more military aid for Ukraine do not understand the proxy war notion. The reason for starting a proxy war is that your country is unable or unwilling to start a real war. Meaning that the West never intended to give Ukraine full support. Doing so would simply be a full scale attack by the West on Russia which the more sane Western leaders would not allow. So the proxy war lives in a delimited conceptual zone where the West can attack Russia strongly without forcing Russia to immediately escalate they way she would in a full scale war. From a tactical perspective I think the West planned and prepared this fairly well. However, this was always profoundly risky since a successful proxy war campaign might simply lead to full scale war, most likely involving nuclear weapons. On the other hand, Russia also played her limited cards very well and stayed in long enough without dramatic escalation up to the present time where she can win this war on her own terms.

    At this point the tally is:

    - The Russian financial system survived several years of heavy, war-like sanctions.

    - The Russian agricultural complex is stronger than ever.

    - The Russian industrial complex is stronger than 2022 and much stronger than 2014.

    - The Russian political power structure seems intact and Putin is as strong as ever.

    - Russian strategic nuclear capabilities may now be stronger even than peak Soviet levels.

    - Russian conventional war fighting capabilities have gradually improved despite heavy losses in Ukraine.

    - Russian capability with hypersonic missiles is best in the world, for the moment.

    - Russia has demonstrated very effective drone and anti-drone warfare skill despite having one hand tied up (since this is a proxy war). The one hand is unwillingness to attack satellites which are important or possibly crucial to Western war fighting.

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected. However, Russia may publicly accept terms which are not as favorable as one would envision. I think the essential items are no NATO in Ukraine and restrictions on Western involvement in the country to avoid a flare up of the this mess in the next ten years. There will be a lot of room for Western and Ukrainian face saving.

    Whatever occurs, the Western MSM will spin it as a Russian failure so don't be surprised if you need to read between the lines to understand what actually transpired.

    Replies: @Sean, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper, or be about to, before Zelensky will concede. Assuming Zelesky does concede, Putin cannot just get an agreement brokered by the West, because that that would be just like Minsk, which neither Ukraine or the West would felt bound by once they had rearmed.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace. So I think Russia will at a minimum have to reach the Dniepner along almost its entire length.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean


    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper
     
    While taking a 2:1 disadvantaged casualty ratio Russia may eventually grind out the rest of Donbas and some flat rural parts of Zaporizhia province but how will it take large cities like Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, even Poltava? Those would be World War II level casualties. Very doubtful that Russia is capable of taken half the country.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace
     
    “Changing tunes” change back as soon as there is a chance of doing so. Even if, theoretically, 90% of men would be killed, they have sons and younger brothers. So the only ways of achieving “lasting peace” are:

    1. Conquer and occupy the entire country, and then leave a permanent garrison in place to keep the occupation regime in power. Build and maintain a wall to keep out infiltration from the West. Like in DDR. Know that whenever the occupation ends, Ukraine moves West. Like with DDR.

    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do - erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.

    Which is more likely or feasible?

    Obviously of those two possibilities, the second one is far more likely, eventually.

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    Of course, even the third option would require Russia to conquer Kiev (population 3+ million) and other cities so it’s very unlikely.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

  432. @QCIC
    @Sean

    I finally watched this helpful German military review video on the Ukraine conflict from last week. It is a bit more informative than JJ's war porn videos.

    Considering this is a NATO production and highly pro-Ukraine I think the message is that "Ukraine is done." The speaker closes by emphasizing NATO preparation for the NEXT war.

    I suppose people who want more military aid for Ukraine do not understand the proxy war notion. The reason for starting a proxy war is that your country is unable or unwilling to start a real war. Meaning that the West never intended to give Ukraine full support. Doing so would simply be a full scale attack by the West on Russia which the more sane Western leaders would not allow. So the proxy war lives in a delimited conceptual zone where the West can attack Russia strongly without forcing Russia to immediately escalate they way she would in a full scale war. From a tactical perspective I think the West planned and prepared this fairly well. However, this was always profoundly risky since a successful proxy war campaign might simply lead to full scale war, most likely involving nuclear weapons. On the other hand, Russia also played her limited cards very well and stayed in long enough without dramatic escalation up to the present time where she can win this war on her own terms.

    At this point the tally is:

    - The Russian financial system survived several years of heavy, war-like sanctions.

    - The Russian agricultural complex is stronger than ever.

    - The Russian industrial complex is stronger than 2022 and much stronger than 2014.

    - The Russian political power structure seems intact and Putin is as strong as ever.

    - Russian strategic nuclear capabilities may now be stronger even than peak Soviet levels.

    - Russian conventional war fighting capabilities have gradually improved despite heavy losses in Ukraine.

    - Russian capability with hypersonic missiles is best in the world, for the moment.

    - Russia has demonstrated very effective drone and anti-drone warfare skill despite having one hand tied up (since this is a proxy war). The one hand is unwillingness to attack satellites which are important or possibly crucial to Western war fighting.

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected. However, Russia may publicly accept terms which are not as favorable as one would envision. I think the essential items are no NATO in Ukraine and restrictions on Western involvement in the country to avoid a flare up of the this mess in the next ten years. There will be a lot of room for Western and Ukrainian face saving.

    Whatever occurs, the Western MSM will spin it as a Russian failure so don't be surprised if you need to read between the lines to understand what actually transpired.

    Replies: @Sean, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    Austria isn’t part of NATO, albeit they are a vassal of the US otherwise.

    Was it Trump, and Brexit, derangement that led to the left abandoning Obama’s, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine. Still crazy to think people believed China wouldn’t support Russia, not even India were going to join in any sanctions. Incompetent people.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LondonBob


    ...Obama’s, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine...people believed China wouldn’t support Russia
     
    Obama simply stated the obvious and it is to China's benefit to prevent a Russian loss (as it is vice-versa). Also, in an existential war of survival Russia could use nukes - and probably would. So there was no "winning".

    It adds up to layered strategic incompetence very hard to accept. Are the Western decision makers really that incredibly stupid? Or are they desperate and irresponsible? The Ukie cheering section here has that low-level of thinking, but the elites?

    It is possibly only about the destruction-rearming-depopulating Ukraine, the money flowing to the right people, a few demographic issues resolved - it is in the Western interest to drastically cut down the number of people living in Ukraine. It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn't most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    Thanks for pointing out my mistake, I forgot to double check if the presentation was by a German or Austrian. That is a major oversight and probably explains why the Colonel was so forthright about Ukrainian infrastructure losses. I think the bulk of my comment stands even though the speaker is not in NATO.

  433. @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Austria isn't part of NATO, albeit they are a vassal of the US otherwise.

    Was it Trump, and Brexit, derangement that led to the left abandoning Obama's, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine. Still crazy to think people believed China wouldn't support Russia, not even India were going to join in any sanctions. Incompetent people.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    …Obama’s, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine…people believed China wouldn’t support Russia

    Obama simply stated the obvious and it is to China’s benefit to prevent a Russian loss (as it is vice-versa). Also, in an existential war of survival Russia could use nukes – and probably would. So there was no “winning”.

    It adds up to layered strategic incompetence very hard to accept. Are the Western decision makers really that incredibly stupid? Or are they desperate and irresponsible? The Ukie cheering section here has that low-level of thinking, but the elites?

    It is possibly only about the destruction-rearming-depopulating Ukraine, the money flowing to the right people, a few demographic issues resolved – it is in the Western interest to drastically cut down the number of people living in Ukraine. It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn’t most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn’t most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    You are saying the Ukrainians should have subjected themselves to Russian rule for the sake of peace?

    Replies: @Beckow

  434. Must be pretty pleased in Moscow and Tehran with the successful parry of the Israeli attack. I await Crooke’s interview with the Judge to see whether he thinks there will be retaliation, getting mixed signals from Elijah Magnier and others.

    • Replies: @A123
    @LondonBob


    Must be pretty pleased in Moscow and Tehran with the successful parry of the Israeli attack
     
    There is no evidence of a "successful parry", only Israeli restraint in its proportionate response.

    Iran had to admit the counter strike killed troops. That is more that Iran managed to do in their initial provocation. Most likely they will take the opportunity to back down. However, I admit that sociopaths, like Khamenei, are unpredictable.

    PEACE 😇
  435. @Sean
    @QCIC

    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper, or be about to, before Zelensky will concede. Assuming Zelesky does concede, Putin cannot just get an agreement brokered by the West, because that that would be just like Minsk, which neither Ukraine or the West would felt bound by once they had rearmed.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace. So I think Russia will at a minimum have to reach the Dniepner along almost its entire length.

    Replies: @AP

    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper

    While taking a 2:1 disadvantaged casualty ratio Russia may eventually grind out the rest of Donbas and some flat rural parts of Zaporizhia province but how will it take large cities like Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, even Poltava? Those would be World War II level casualties. Very doubtful that Russia is capable of taken half the country.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace

    “Changing tunes” change back as soon as there is a chance of doing so. Even if, theoretically, 90% of men would be killed, they have sons and younger brothers. So the only ways of achieving “lasting peace” are:

    1. Conquer and occupy the entire country, and then leave a permanent garrison in place to keep the occupation regime in power. Build and maintain a wall to keep out infiltration from the West. Like in DDR. Know that whenever the occupation ends, Ukraine moves West. Like with DDR.

    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do – erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.

    Which is more likely or feasible?

    Obviously of those two possibilities, the second one is far more likely, eventually.

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    Of course, even the third option would require Russia to conquer Kiev (population 3+ million) and other cities so it’s very unlikely.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    China isn't going to risk Western tariffs for Putin.

    It also wouldn't be a cakewalk due to the drones. The Ukrainians have mastered the FPV drone and they can be flown by teenagers. They have a new cluster version that can take out a dozen troops. The drones could even be flying themselves within a year. They could be programmed to seek out Chinese uniforms.

    Putin has put himself into a jam. Even if he goes with the Korean unspoken armistice option there are still the sanctions. He can't just dial the economy back to 2021 and the population isn't going to accept life without iphones and jumbo jets.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @A123
    @AP


    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do – erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.
     
    You missed #2a or possibly #4.

    Keep what can be effectively integrated with little fuss. Make a peace with the new smaller Ukraine that explicitly limits its offensive militarily potential. No nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops/bases. This will avoid a rogue Kiev regime starting Round 2 some years down the line.

    The new smaller Ukraine would seek EU membership, but would it be approved? Given the problems with the EU's Common Agricultural Program [CAP], I do not see how the EU could admit Ukraine without blowing up its annual budget. A more limited deal that protects EE, especially Polish, farmers is certainly possible though.
    ____

    Kiev needs to be more realistic, sooner rather that later. The is still no Ukrainian strategy to "win". They are now losing ground on every front including the Kursk incursion.

    Changes are coming to U.S. policy. The €50B "G7" loan was reduced to effectively a €35B "EU only" loan, because there was no way for the U.S. to join in under current law. The Harris/Biden administration did not attempt to go to Congress.

    PEACE 😇

  436. @Beckow
    @LondonBob


    ...Obama’s, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine...people believed China wouldn’t support Russia
     
    Obama simply stated the obvious and it is to China's benefit to prevent a Russian loss (as it is vice-versa). Also, in an existential war of survival Russia could use nukes - and probably would. So there was no "winning".

    It adds up to layered strategic incompetence very hard to accept. Are the Western decision makers really that incredibly stupid? Or are they desperate and irresponsible? The Ukie cheering section here has that low-level of thinking, but the elites?

    It is possibly only about the destruction-rearming-depopulating Ukraine, the money flowing to the right people, a few demographic issues resolved - it is in the Western interest to drastically cut down the number of people living in Ukraine. It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn't most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn’t most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    You are saying the Ukrainians should have subjected themselves to Russian rule for the sake of peace?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Ukrainians should have subjected...
     
    There is a lot of space between subjection and war: neutral Ukraine with normal EU rights for its Russian minority would suffice. NATO didn't like the compromise, so we have a bloody war Kiev (and NATO) are losing.

    One of the quiet goals was probably to depopulate Ukraine - large, rich country ready to be settled and exploited. Nature abhors vacuum...

    Replies: @Mikhail

  437. I don’t know why, but I thought this video from an old legal case involving the possible infringement on Street Fighter II was very amusing.

    [MORE]

    Seems to me that obviously Data East were inspired by Capcom’s SF2, just like it was typical since Pong and Space Invaders and Pacman to make copycats of successful games.

    But I agree with the decision that copyright shouldn’t be treated that broadly.

    I almost feel sorry for Data East, even though they earlier sued another company similarly, as they were put through all this trouble for what obviously seems like an inferior and less popular game.

    I wonder if it was a Gaijin who advised them to have the woman do the presentation.

  438. @QCIC
    @Sean

    I finally watched this helpful German military review video on the Ukraine conflict from last week. It is a bit more informative than JJ's war porn videos.

    Considering this is a NATO production and highly pro-Ukraine I think the message is that "Ukraine is done." The speaker closes by emphasizing NATO preparation for the NEXT war.

    I suppose people who want more military aid for Ukraine do not understand the proxy war notion. The reason for starting a proxy war is that your country is unable or unwilling to start a real war. Meaning that the West never intended to give Ukraine full support. Doing so would simply be a full scale attack by the West on Russia which the more sane Western leaders would not allow. So the proxy war lives in a delimited conceptual zone where the West can attack Russia strongly without forcing Russia to immediately escalate they way she would in a full scale war. From a tactical perspective I think the West planned and prepared this fairly well. However, this was always profoundly risky since a successful proxy war campaign might simply lead to full scale war, most likely involving nuclear weapons. On the other hand, Russia also played her limited cards very well and stayed in long enough without dramatic escalation up to the present time where she can win this war on her own terms.

    At this point the tally is:

    - The Russian financial system survived several years of heavy, war-like sanctions.

    - The Russian agricultural complex is stronger than ever.

    - The Russian industrial complex is stronger than 2022 and much stronger than 2014.

    - The Russian political power structure seems intact and Putin is as strong as ever.

    - Russian strategic nuclear capabilities may now be stronger even than peak Soviet levels.

    - Russian conventional war fighting capabilities have gradually improved despite heavy losses in Ukraine.

    - Russian capability with hypersonic missiles is best in the world, for the moment.

    - Russia has demonstrated very effective drone and anti-drone warfare skill despite having one hand tied up (since this is a proxy war). The one hand is unwillingness to attack satellites which are important or possibly crucial to Western war fighting.

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected. However, Russia may publicly accept terms which are not as favorable as one would envision. I think the essential items are no NATO in Ukraine and restrictions on Western involvement in the country to avoid a flare up of the this mess in the next ten years. There will be a lot of room for Western and Ukrainian face saving.

    Whatever occurs, the Western MSM will spin it as a Russian failure so don't be surprised if you need to read between the lines to understand what actually transpired.

    Replies: @Sean, @LondonBob, @John Johnson

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected.

    Russia hasn’t taken Kharkiv which is 30 minutes from the border.

    Ukraine is still in Kursk.

    Larry and his CIA pal were wrong about North Korean troops. They are being used for combat which shows that Russia does not have unlimited manpower. This reality seems to have broken a wall of delusion with Putin fans. They flipped out in the recent thread where this was discussed.

    I really don’t know how you can say that Russia has effectively won when NATO has expanded East and Putin is nowhere close to getting Odessa (which he has emphatically stated is Russian).

    Kharkiv will have freezing temperatures next week. Putin needed to take Kharkiv by now.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    QCIC is another cowardly garden variety kremlin stooge appeaser that I quit taking seriously for some time now. I would suggest that you do the same.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the war ends when the people at the level of political power in Ukraine just below the puppet Zelensky decides they are tired of seeing their own country destroyed for no good reason. There is no sign the puppet masters are ready to give up, but I believe that at some point the practical leaders of Ukraine will become tired of this bloody mess they signed up for. This insane project required them to willingly participate. Once that will fades away the puppet masters can move on to their next project.

    I think the will to fight of Ukrainian leaders and people is fading, while the Russian will is probably gradually increasing.

  439. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    King Crimson’s 2015 live adventures are chronicled on “Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind,”
     
    Is that something they play on commercial radio?

    Am starting to wonder whether you play some instrument or were in a band.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Is that something they play on commercial radio?

    Nah, it’s extremely unlikely that you’d be cruising down the highway and come across any King Crimson being broadcast thru the airwaves. They’ve always been a very avant garde grouping, however, have enjoyed a loyal following. I quit seriously following them after about their 6th album (their classic period), and only listened to them from a distance as they evolved through many iterations including changes in band members, styles and moods. They probably have put-out over 100 albums over the course of time.

    Am starting to wonder whether you play some instrument or were in a band.

    I tried being in a band only onetime. I played the piano and it all fizzled out quite quickly. I used to have vivid dreams where I’d stay in contact with George Harrison over the phone, but I don’t think that that counts? 🙂

    Their very first and probably their most popular album:

    • Thanks: songbird
  440. @AP
    @Sean


    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper
     
    While taking a 2:1 disadvantaged casualty ratio Russia may eventually grind out the rest of Donbas and some flat rural parts of Zaporizhia province but how will it take large cities like Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, even Poltava? Those would be World War II level casualties. Very doubtful that Russia is capable of taken half the country.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace
     
    “Changing tunes” change back as soon as there is a chance of doing so. Even if, theoretically, 90% of men would be killed, they have sons and younger brothers. So the only ways of achieving “lasting peace” are:

    1. Conquer and occupy the entire country, and then leave a permanent garrison in place to keep the occupation regime in power. Build and maintain a wall to keep out infiltration from the West. Like in DDR. Know that whenever the occupation ends, Ukraine moves West. Like with DDR.

    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do - erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.

    Which is more likely or feasible?

    Obviously of those two possibilities, the second one is far more likely, eventually.

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    Of course, even the third option would require Russia to conquer Kiev (population 3+ million) and other cities so it’s very unlikely.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    China isn’t going to risk Western tariffs for Putin.

    It also wouldn’t be a cakewalk due to the drones. The Ukrainians have mastered the FPV drone and they can be flown by teenagers. They have a new cluster version that can take out a dozen troops. The drones could even be flying themselves within a year. They could be programmed to seek out Chinese uniforms.

    Putin has put himself into a jam. Even if he goes with the Korean unspoken armistice option there are still the sanctions. He can’t just dial the economy back to 2021 and the population isn’t going to accept life without iphones and jumbo jets.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson

    China prolly did not want Russia to mount the SMO, but this interminable war that has grown out of the failre of the SMO is helping the Chinese to be seen as a a friend of Russia, and the West as an implacable enemy. If Russia enters into an alliance with China then China has the key to world domination down the line. So any help China gives Russia will pay off big time for China whether or not Russia gets a victory. They already are helping them, you don't think NK is doing anything with Russia that China does not quietly approve of do you?

    The Russians are not going to quit, if they were it would have happened already. I think we are about half way through the war. That does not mean Russia is going to win in the end but I think they are going to try to grind it out and China is not going to cut Russia off as long it wants to keep trying.

    Replies: @AP

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    It's funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they're retreating on all fronts.

    "Failure to contain the war is encouraging seismic geopolitical shifts, most notably the China-Russia “no-limits” partnership. China’s president, Xi Jinping, gets cheap oil; ostracised Putin gets sanctions-busting dual-use tech plus diplomatic backing. But it’s so much more than that. At last week’s Brics summit – hosted by Putin – Russia, China, India, Brazil and South Africa were joined by Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and, alarmingly, Nato member Turkey (among many others). Putin envisages a global anti-western alliance, Xi a post-American, China-led 21st-century new world order."

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/ukraine-russia-war-nato-biden-putin

    Replies: @John Johnson

  441. @LondonBob
    Must be pretty pleased in Moscow and Tehran with the successful parry of the Israeli attack. I await Crooke's interview with the Judge to see whether he thinks there will be retaliation, getting mixed signals from Elijah Magnier and others.

    Replies: @A123

    Must be pretty pleased in Moscow and Tehran with the successful parry of the Israeli attack

    There is no evidence of a “successful parry”, only Israeli restraint in its proportionate response.

    Iran had to admit the counter strike killed troops. That is more that Iran managed to do in their initial provocation. Most likely they will take the opportunity to back down. However, I admit that sociopaths, like Khamenei, are unpredictable.

    PEACE 😇

  442. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected.

    Russia hasn't taken Kharkiv which is 30 minutes from the border.

    Ukraine is still in Kursk.

    Larry and his CIA pal were wrong about North Korean troops. They are being used for combat which shows that Russia does not have unlimited manpower. This reality seems to have broken a wall of delusion with Putin fans. They flipped out in the recent thread where this was discussed.

    I really don't know how you can say that Russia has effectively won when NATO has expanded East and Putin is nowhere close to getting Odessa (which he has emphatically stated is Russian).

    Kharkiv will have freezing temperatures next week. Putin needed to take Kharkiv by now.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    QCIC is another cowardly garden variety kremlin stooge appeaser that I quit taking seriously for some time now. I would suggest that you do the same.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    My favorite riffs:

    I point out this conflict in Ukraine has serious nuclear warfare implications which should be understood and avoided.

    I point out this bloody conflict in Ukraine is obviously a proxy war started by the West against Russia.

    I point out technical tidbits related to Russian industrial and military capability which show that in certain respects the country is much more capable than is widely understood.

    With some sympathy I point out that Ukrainians have volunteered to be pawns in a deadly war which they could have avoided.

    These points upset you because they don't fit into your misguided ethno-nationalistic and bloodthirsty perspective. I understand that you do not consider yourself bloodthirsty, but what you advocate has predictably led to rivers of blood. The facts speak louder and more clearly than your delusions.

    +++

    Old John McLaughlin: "The Inner Mounting Flame"
    Middle John Mc: "The Peacocks" (from The Promise 1995)
    Newer John Mc: I don't know.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  443. @AP
    @Sean


    I think Russia will have to occupy everything east of the the Dnieper
     
    While taking a 2:1 disadvantaged casualty ratio Russia may eventually grind out the rest of Donbas and some flat rural parts of Zaporizhia province but how will it take large cities like Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, even Poltava? Those would be World War II level casualties. Very doubtful that Russia is capable of taken half the country.

    There are too many men in Ukraine who believe in the rightness of the war and they are going to have to be killed or forced to show their true colours by fleeing the country or changing their tune rather than going into real combat. Only then can there be a lasting peace
     
    “Changing tunes” change back as soon as there is a chance of doing so. Even if, theoretically, 90% of men would be killed, they have sons and younger brothers. So the only ways of achieving “lasting peace” are:

    1. Conquer and occupy the entire country, and then leave a permanent garrison in place to keep the occupation regime in power. Build and maintain a wall to keep out infiltration from the West. Like in DDR. Know that whenever the occupation ends, Ukraine moves West. Like with DDR.

    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do - erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.

    Which is more likely or feasible?

    Obviously of those two possibilities, the second one is far more likely, eventually.

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    Of course, even the third option would require Russia to conquer Kiev (population 3+ million) and other cities so it’s very unlikely.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    2. Keep what can be ruled/depopulated with less fuss (something like the current lines, plus/minus more rural parts) and then make peace with whatever most of free Ukraine wants to do – erasure of government support for Russian language, entrance into EU, NATO, or some other security arrangement such as a separate deal with particular Western countries, nukes, whatever.

    You missed #2a or possibly #4.

    Keep what can be effectively integrated with little fuss. Make a peace with the new smaller Ukraine that explicitly limits its offensive militarily potential. No nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops/bases. This will avoid a rogue Kiev regime starting Round 2 some years down the line.

    The new smaller Ukraine would seek EU membership, but would it be approved? Given the problems with the EU’s Common Agricultural Program [CAP], I do not see how the EU could admit Ukraine without blowing up its annual budget. A more limited deal that protects EE, especially Polish, farmers is certainly possible though.
    ____

    Kiev needs to be more realistic, sooner rather that later. The is still no Ukrainian strategy to “win”. They are now losing ground on every front including the Kursk incursion.

    Changes are coming to U.S. policy. The €50B “G7” loan was reduced to effectively a €35B “EU only” loan, because there was no way for the U.S. to join in under current law. The Harris/Biden administration did not attempt to go to Congress.

    PEACE 😇

  444. @John Johnson
    @AP

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    China isn't going to risk Western tariffs for Putin.

    It also wouldn't be a cakewalk due to the drones. The Ukrainians have mastered the FPV drone and they can be flown by teenagers. They have a new cluster version that can take out a dozen troops. The drones could even be flying themselves within a year. They could be programmed to seek out Chinese uniforms.

    Putin has put himself into a jam. Even if he goes with the Korean unspoken armistice option there are still the sanctions. He can't just dial the economy back to 2021 and the population isn't going to accept life without iphones and jumbo jets.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon

    China prolly did not want Russia to mount the SMO, but this interminable war that has grown out of the failre of the SMO is helping the Chinese to be seen as a a friend of Russia, and the West as an implacable enemy. If Russia enters into an alliance with China then China has the key to world domination down the line. So any help China gives Russia will pay off big time for China whether or not Russia gets a victory. They already are helping them, you don’t think NK is doing anything with Russia that China does not quietly approve of do you?

    The Russians are not going to quit, if they were it would have happened already. I think we are about half way through the war. That does not mean Russia is going to win in the end but I think they are going to try to grind it out and China is not going to cut Russia off as long it wants to keep trying.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean


    The Russians are not going to quit, if they were it would have happened already. I think we are about half way through the war. That does not mean Russia is going to win in the end
     
    If the bolded part is true and Russia ends up having to settle for a non-win, then the Russians will have indeed quit.

    The Russians are not going to undergo full mobilization, if they could they would have done so by now. So eventually they will come to terms with the fact that they will not own Kiev, Dnipro, and most of the lands that Kiev currently controls. Which means they will have to accept that those lands will eventually join some Western alliance and be lost to Russia forever. They can console themselves with the knowledge that they salvaged Crimea, Donbas, maybe the Crimean corridor. The question is how many years and how many deaths it will take for the inevitable conclusion to be reached.
  445. @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Austria isn't part of NATO, albeit they are a vassal of the US otherwise.

    Was it Trump, and Brexit, derangement that led to the left abandoning Obama's, for once, correct observation that Russia has escalatory dominance in the Ukraine. Still crazy to think people believed China wouldn't support Russia, not even India were going to join in any sanctions. Incompetent people.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    Thanks for pointing out my mistake, I forgot to double check if the presentation was by a German or Austrian. That is a major oversight and probably explains why the Colonel was so forthright about Ukrainian infrastructure losses. I think the bulk of my comment stands even though the speaker is not in NATO.

  446. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    QCIC is another cowardly garden variety kremlin stooge appeaser that I quit taking seriously for some time now. I would suggest that you do the same.

    Replies: @QCIC

    My favorite riffs:

    I point out this conflict in Ukraine has serious nuclear warfare implications which should be understood and avoided.

    I point out this bloody conflict in Ukraine is obviously a proxy war started by the West against Russia.

    I point out technical tidbits related to Russian industrial and military capability which show that in certain respects the country is much more capable than is widely understood.

    With some sympathy I point out that Ukrainians have volunteered to be pawns in a deadly war which they could have avoided.

    These points upset you because they don’t fit into your misguided ethno-nationalistic and bloodthirsty perspective. I understand that you do not consider yourself bloodthirsty, but what you advocate has predictably led to rivers of blood. The facts speak louder and more clearly than your delusions.

    +++

    Old John McLaughlin: “The Inner Mounting Flame”
    Middle John Mc: “The Peacocks” (from The Promise 1995)
    Newer John Mc: I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    Old John McLaughlin: “The Inner Mounting Flame”
     
    In the same vein, but even better. I saw and heard Mahavishnu play live at the top of their popularity:

    https://open.spotify.com/album/6SLknspfGod3v3TyWawl8J?si=6-c6atmCR-6hZwMhCj3Jhw

    Replies: @QCIC

  447. LMAO. Did Bono really say that he would drive off a cliff, if Trump wins?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I didn't hear that one but the Daily Mail had a story about halfway down the page with the headline that with all their celebrity endorsements the Dem Party is a Diddy party.

    1 LOL is better than none!

    Isn't Bono Irish? Why in world would he even care?

    Replies: @songbird

  448. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Since Russia has effectively won, the fighting may taper off sooner than I expected.

    Russia hasn't taken Kharkiv which is 30 minutes from the border.

    Ukraine is still in Kursk.

    Larry and his CIA pal were wrong about North Korean troops. They are being used for combat which shows that Russia does not have unlimited manpower. This reality seems to have broken a wall of delusion with Putin fans. They flipped out in the recent thread where this was discussed.

    I really don't know how you can say that Russia has effectively won when NATO has expanded East and Putin is nowhere close to getting Odessa (which he has emphatically stated is Russian).

    Kharkiv will have freezing temperatures next week. Putin needed to take Kharkiv by now.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    I think the war ends when the people at the level of political power in Ukraine just below the puppet Zelensky decides they are tired of seeing their own country destroyed for no good reason. There is no sign the puppet masters are ready to give up, but I believe that at some point the practical leaders of Ukraine will become tired of this bloody mess they signed up for. This insane project required them to willingly participate. Once that will fades away the puppet masters can move on to their next project.

    I think the will to fight of Ukrainian leaders and people is fading, while the Russian will is probably gradually increasing.

    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
  449. @Mr. Hack
    The pea sized country of Moldava recently held a referendum and decided to pursue its EU aspirations. Apparently Moldava, like its other neighboring pea sized country of Slovakia, prefers an association with its Western neighbors than with the newly aspiring Soviet Union that Putler is trying to recreate. I wonder why?

    https://youtu.be/mfFfWrMgQXE

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Derer, @YetAnotherAnon

    I see they are volunteering to be Ukraine 2.0 – but the “votes” which tipped the scales all came from abroad, so the overseas voters/voteriggers are saying “let’s you and him fight”.

    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn’t. Any more than you do.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn’t. Any more than you do.
     
    I'm not bragging, but I do support the Ukrainian cause financially and as you know take a good part in the propaganda war almost daily (I'm of retirement age). I do have a cousin, in his forties, married with two kids, born in Ukraine who immigrated to the US as a teen, who rushed back to Kyiv the first time that it was under serious attack to help bolster the defense of the city. AP has also mentioned that he knew a professional who was working in Western Europe with a family and kids who went back to support his motherland, who paid dearly with his life to defend Ukraine. So, you see, your story is stale and worthless, as are you. :-(

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  450. @John Johnson
    @AP

    There is a third option that no one AFAIK has mentioned. Become a total Chinese vassal, and then do (1) with a half a million or so Chinese troops keeping order in Ukraine. China can spare the numbers, and can take Ukraine’s agricultural production as payment. Orban has already asked for Chinese police, so the Chinese security forces working from Ukraine can help Orban and Fico stay in power, indefinitely.

    China isn't going to risk Western tariffs for Putin.

    It also wouldn't be a cakewalk due to the drones. The Ukrainians have mastered the FPV drone and they can be flown by teenagers. They have a new cluster version that can take out a dozen troops. The drones could even be flying themselves within a year. They could be programmed to seek out Chinese uniforms.

    Putin has put himself into a jam. Even if he goes with the Korean unspoken armistice option there are still the sanctions. He can't just dial the economy back to 2021 and the population isn't going to accept life without iphones and jumbo jets.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they’re retreating on all fronts.

    “Failure to contain the war is encouraging seismic geopolitical shifts, most notably the China-Russia “no-limits” partnership. China’s president, Xi Jinping, gets cheap oil; ostracised Putin gets sanctions-busting dual-use tech plus diplomatic backing. But it’s so much more than that. At last week’s Brics summit – hosted by Putin – Russia, China, India, Brazil and South Africa were joined by Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and, alarmingly, Nato member Turkey (among many others). Putin envisages a global anti-western alliance, Xi a post-American, China-led 21st-century new world order.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/ukraine-russia-war-nato-biden-putin

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they’re retreating on all fronts.

    No one has referred to the drones as wunderwaffen. It's more an admiral use of a new technology and makes the occupation of a hostile city all the more difficult.

    Let me know when the Orc King and his washing machine raiders finally make it to Kharkiv. It's only 30 minutes from the Russian border and remains untouched.

    World is super impressed with Russia's military invasion of a smaller country that has 1/8th the infantry and jet ski drones for a navy. Nearly year 3 of the 2.5 week special operation and Ukraine is still in Russia.

    Super duper impressed.

    At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  451. Great News from Israel (1)

    The Knesset is set to pass two bills on Monday that would shut down the United Nations Relief and Works Agency operations in east Jerusalem, Gaza, and the West Bank within 90 days, despite a massive international pressure campaign against such a step.

    A source in the Prime Minister’s Office confirmed to The Jerusalem Post that the bills were expected to pass.

    Israel had long argued that the organization incited against Israel and Jews and helped ensure that there would be a permanent and ever-expanding group of Palestinian refugees. Print to October 7, 2023, many security officials had held that UNRWA’s provision of humanitarian services provided an important element of stabilization in the region.

    In the last year, since the Hamas-led invasion of Israel on October 7 and the IDF’s subsequent military campaign against Hamas in Gaza, Israel and the IDF have come to believe that UNRWA is so intertwined with Hamas that it can not be a neutral service provider. Worse Israel has charged that a number of UNRWA employees were involved in the seizure of captives on October 7 and that Hamas terrorists were employed by the organization.

    After 90 days, any relief would have to go through organizations (e.g. UNHCR) that do not support the concept of “inherited” refugee status. No more dole. Muslim occupiers in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will have to:

    • Work to support themselves
    • Leave to claim the dole elsewhere

    This is a rare win-win scenario.

    If the temporary high court tries to intervene in breach of Basic Law, it will be the perfect opportunity for Netanyahu to pivot back to desperately needed judicial reform.

    PEACE 😇
    _________

    (1) https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-826329

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    So how long do you think it will take these genius men to finish their genocide job?

    Replies: @A123

    , @songbird
    @A123

    Have heard vaguely that the head of the Knesset is a homosexual, which I find somewhat surprising, though I don't know much about Israeli politics.

    Replies: @A123

  452. @songbird
    LMAO. Did Bono really say that he would drive off a cliff, if Trump wins?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    I didn’t hear that one but the Daily Mail had a story about halfway down the page with the headline that with all their celebrity endorsements the Dem Party is a Diddy party.

    1 LOL is better than none!

    Isn’t Bono Irish? Why in world would he even care?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians. It is very much a part of his social scene, when he meets with super rich people and campaigns for free HIV meds and debt relief, etc.

    Am guessing the antiTrump stuff plays heavily into that, though he did once lobby GW Bush.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  453. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    I see they are volunteering to be Ukraine 2.0 - but the "votes" which tipped the scales all came from abroad, so the overseas voters/voteriggers are saying "let's you and him fight".

    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn't. Any more than you do.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn’t. Any more than you do.

    I’m not bragging, but I do support the Ukrainian cause financially and as you know take a good part in the propaganda war almost daily (I’m of retirement age). I do have a cousin, in his forties, married with two kids, born in Ukraine who immigrated to the US as a teen, who rushed back to Kyiv the first time that it was under serious attack to help bolster the defense of the city. AP has also mentioned that he knew a professional who was working in Western Europe with a family and kids who went back to support his motherland, who paid dearly with his life to defend Ukraine. So, you see, your story is stale and worthless, as are you. 🙁

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    "I do support the Ukrainian cause financially"

    Not bragging either, in fact deeply ashamed, but as a UK taxpayer I'm also supporting Ukraine, albeit unwillingly. I'm also supporting Israel for some reason, only a couple of days ago there was an RAF fighter and a tanker near Dimona.

    Friends have given a home to a family from Kharkov, and while the younger members are adapted to UK life, I think mama is pretty sad not to be at home, and also would have been quite happy if it had stayed Russian. The youngest male turned 18 a year ago, and I very much hope he stays here until it's over.

  454. @A123
    Great News from Israel (1)

    The Knesset is set to pass two bills on Monday that would shut down the United Nations Relief and Works Agency operations in east Jerusalem, Gaza, and the West Bank within 90 days, despite a massive international pressure campaign against such a step.

    A source in the Prime Minister’s Office confirmed to The Jerusalem Post that the bills were expected to pass.

    ...

    Israel had long argued that the organization incited against Israel and Jews and helped ensure that there would be a permanent and ever-expanding group of Palestinian refugees. Print to October 7, 2023, many security officials had held that UNRWA’s provision of humanitarian services provided an important element of stabilization in the region.

    In the last year, since the Hamas-led invasion of Israel on October 7 and the IDF’s subsequent military campaign against Hamas in Gaza, Israel and the IDF have come to believe that UNRWA is so intertwined with Hamas that it can not be a neutral service provider. Worse Israel has charged that a number of UNRWA employees were involved in the seizure of captives on October 7 and that Hamas terrorists were employed by the organization.
     
    After 90 days, any relief would have to go through organizations (e.g. UNHCR) that do not support the concept of "inherited" refugee status. No more dole. Muslim occupiers in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will have to:

    • Work to support themselves
    • Leave to claim the dole elsewhere

    This is a rare win-win scenario.

    If the temporary high court tries to intervene in breach of Basic Law, it will be the perfect opportunity for Netanyahu to pivot back to desperately needed judicial reform.

    PEACE 😇
    _________

    (1) https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-826329

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    So how long do you think it will take these genius men to finish their genocide job?

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    So how long do you think it will take these genius men to finish their genocide job?
     
    Genius? The incredibly stupid genociders of Iranian Hamas have been heavily depleted and are unable to resupply. Thus, there is no longer a genocide job to finish.

    PEACE 😇
  455. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    It adds up to a very sad story. But one wonders how didn’t most Ukies see it? How did they get bamboozled by obvious hustlers like Zelko or Bojo?

    You are saying the Ukrainians should have subjected themselves to Russian rule for the sake of peace?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Ukrainians should have subjected…

    There is a lot of space between subjection and war: neutral Ukraine with normal EU rights for its Russian minority would suffice. NATO didn’t like the compromise, so we have a bloody war Kiev (and NATO) are losing.

    One of the quiet goals was probably to depopulate Ukraine – large, rich country ready to be settled and exploited. Nature abhors vacuum…

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    So true. Georgian Dream is kind of like Yanukovych in 2014. Yanuk wanted a good term for Ukraine relationship with the EU. Russia outbid the corrupt EU, while saying it wasn't against EU-Russia relationships with Ukraine. The EU took the imperialist zero sum game stance.

    Replies: @Mikel

  456. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I didn't hear that one but the Daily Mail had a story about halfway down the page with the headline that with all their celebrity endorsements the Dem Party is a Diddy party.

    1 LOL is better than none!

    Isn't Bono Irish? Why in world would he even care?

    Replies: @songbird

    Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians. It is very much a part of his social scene, when he meets with super rich people and campaigns for free HIV meds and debt relief, etc.

    Am guessing the antiTrump stuff plays heavily into that, though he did once lobby GW Bush.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    "Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians."

    Well, it worked.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ethiopia#Population


    Its total population has grown from 38.1 million in 1983 to 109.5 million in 2018. The population was only about nine million in the 19th century.
     

    Replies: @songbird

  457. @A123
    Great News from Israel (1)

    The Knesset is set to pass two bills on Monday that would shut down the United Nations Relief and Works Agency operations in east Jerusalem, Gaza, and the West Bank within 90 days, despite a massive international pressure campaign against such a step.

    A source in the Prime Minister’s Office confirmed to The Jerusalem Post that the bills were expected to pass.

    ...

    Israel had long argued that the organization incited against Israel and Jews and helped ensure that there would be a permanent and ever-expanding group of Palestinian refugees. Print to October 7, 2023, many security officials had held that UNRWA’s provision of humanitarian services provided an important element of stabilization in the region.

    In the last year, since the Hamas-led invasion of Israel on October 7 and the IDF’s subsequent military campaign against Hamas in Gaza, Israel and the IDF have come to believe that UNRWA is so intertwined with Hamas that it can not be a neutral service provider. Worse Israel has charged that a number of UNRWA employees were involved in the seizure of captives on October 7 and that Hamas terrorists were employed by the organization.
     
    After 90 days, any relief would have to go through organizations (e.g. UNHCR) that do not support the concept of "inherited" refugee status. No more dole. Muslim occupiers in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will have to:

    • Work to support themselves
    • Leave to claim the dole elsewhere

    This is a rare win-win scenario.

    If the temporary high court tries to intervene in breach of Basic Law, it will be the perfect opportunity for Netanyahu to pivot back to desperately needed judicial reform.

    PEACE 😇
    _________

    (1) https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-826329

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    Have heard vaguely that the head of the Knesset is a homosexual, which I find somewhat surprising, though I don’t know much about Israeli politics.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies. It might even be called "left" in some parts of the world. The current coalition is best described as "center right". Those who want to exterminate Palestinian Jews placed wacky and incorrect terminology into circulation.

    You should not find this surprising. They have used similar labels for Marie Le Pen and Viktor Orban. Lying is the Fake Stream Media's business model.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  458. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    So how long do you think it will take these genius men to finish their genocide job?

    Replies: @A123

    So how long do you think it will take these genius men to finish their genocide job?

    Genius? The incredibly stupid genociders of Iranian Hamas have been heavily depleted and are unable to resupply. Thus, there is no longer a genocide job to finish.

    PEACE 😇

  459. @songbird
    @A123

    Have heard vaguely that the head of the Knesset is a homosexual, which I find somewhat surprising, though I don't know much about Israeli politics.

    Replies: @A123

    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies. It might even be called “left” in some parts of the world. The current coalition is best described as “center right”. Those who want to exterminate Palestinian Jews placed wacky and incorrect terminology into circulation.

    You should not find this surprising. They have used similar labels for Marie Le Pen and Viktor Orban. Lying is the Fake Stream Media’s business model.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies
     
    It is interesting to consider the theory that the gay guy may be there for optics.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  460. Kudos to Orban:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/28/viktor-orban-georgia-hailing-ruling-party-election-victory

    In league with Western neolibs and neocons, a cranky French born Georgian president who for years worked in the French foreign ministry, followed by a stint as France’s ambassador to Georgia.

  461. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Of course they could all rush back to defend the Motherland, but Ukrainians didn’t. Any more than you do.
     
    I'm not bragging, but I do support the Ukrainian cause financially and as you know take a good part in the propaganda war almost daily (I'm of retirement age). I do have a cousin, in his forties, married with two kids, born in Ukraine who immigrated to the US as a teen, who rushed back to Kyiv the first time that it was under serious attack to help bolster the defense of the city. AP has also mentioned that he knew a professional who was working in Western Europe with a family and kids who went back to support his motherland, who paid dearly with his life to defend Ukraine. So, you see, your story is stale and worthless, as are you. :-(

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “I do support the Ukrainian cause financially”

    Not bragging either, in fact deeply ashamed, but as a UK taxpayer I’m also supporting Ukraine, albeit unwillingly. I’m also supporting Israel for some reason, only a couple of days ago there was an RAF fighter and a tanker near Dimona.

    Friends have given a home to a family from Kharkov, and while the younger members are adapted to UK life, I think mama is pretty sad not to be at home, and also would have been quite happy if it had stayed Russian. The youngest male turned 18 a year ago, and I very much hope he stays here until it’s over.

  462. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Ukrainians should have subjected...
     
    There is a lot of space between subjection and war: neutral Ukraine with normal EU rights for its Russian minority would suffice. NATO didn't like the compromise, so we have a bloody war Kiev (and NATO) are losing.

    One of the quiet goals was probably to depopulate Ukraine - large, rich country ready to be settled and exploited. Nature abhors vacuum...

    Replies: @Mikhail

    So true. Georgian Dream is kind of like Yanukovych in 2014. Yanuk wanted a good term for Ukraine relationship with the EU. Russia outbid the corrupt EU, while saying it wasn’t against EU-Russia relationships with Ukraine. The EU took the imperialist zero sum game stance.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we'll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Beckow, @A123, @Mikhail

  463. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians. It is very much a part of his social scene, when he meets with super rich people and campaigns for free HIV meds and debt relief, etc.

    Am guessing the antiTrump stuff plays heavily into that, though he did once lobby GW Bush.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians.”

    Well, it worked.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ethiopia#Population

    Its total population has grown from 38.1 million in 1983 to 109.5 million in 2018. The population was only about nine million in the 19th century.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon

    In 2050, Ethiopia will have the same number the US had in 1980.

    Nigeria is already past that point now.

  464. @Dmitry
    @Mikel



    But the point is not exactly rates should be “treated like temporal series”.

     

    I think that is the point. You provided a beautiful textbook explanation using cancer rates as an example. Let me copy/paste from your own link, section 13.2.4:

    “To do this
    requires first setting up a probability model for the parameters θj (the underly-
    ing 10-year kidney cancer death rates in U.S. counties j)”

    http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/38571/1/A%20Bag%20%20Tricks.pdf

     

    I think you misunderstand the text a bit, but without just trying to sound more polite than earlier, in this case it's really my fault, because it's a book of ideas to use in the classroom. I also combined quotes from two different lessons, one from the beginning of the course, one from the end of the course, so it makes the discussion confusing by mixing two lessons.

    He's not saying the multi-year reported rate is the same as the true rate.

    It seems like he's using a ten year average like this because it's an easier teaching example for the students to calculate an expected rate. I'll try to explain later.

    In this lesson, the true rate is created from a simulation and some students have to choose it randomly from an envelope.


    I’m not sure this is a useful way of looking at this problem. As I conceded, you are right that using rates from populations of different sizes introduces a heterogeneity problem that needs some statistical treatment. But confidence intervals around a statistic need to have an intuitive, physical world meaning.
     
    It's not like a debate where we can have different ways of looking at it. In this context, the statisticians' meaning of the true rate, or underlying rate, is the observed rate minus randomness.

    Annual changes in the reported rate in Espanola NM is useful because it helps to show the instability in the observed rate between years at this population size.

    This is helpful in our discussion because you were wondering why we should use a confidence interval even when our sample is the complete dataset.

    The confidence interval is trying to estimate the likely values between which we can say the true rate is existing.

    When we say this true rate is minus randomness, what do we mean? This randomness is statisticians' randomness, which is not the concept of randomness used in physics, but relates to our intuitive concept of randomness. For example, if you flip a coin one time, in classical mechanics the result is not random, but from the view of human intention and our sensory ability, this is random.

    So, how does this randomness relate to murder rate.

    For example, when an assassin tried to murder Trump in July. Trump said he moved his head to look at a signpost just before the bullet missed or only affected the ear. We can think about this like a coin flip. It's random if Trump will be murdered or not in this example.

    Imagine, Trump is in Espanola NM. The murder rate of the city would be 9,5 this year if the bullet goes to the intended target, but the murder rate of the city will be 0 this year if Trump looks at the sign so the bullet only affects the ear.

    We can intuitively understand that an observed murder rate in Espanola NM has a very high exposure to randomness. If we try to infer the true murder rate from the observed murder rate, we need very wide confidence intervals, as the confidence intervals are estimating the murder rate minus randomness, not the observed rate.

    But what about the murder rate of the USA? How does the randomness in the Trump assassination influence the murder rate. If he was killed, it would change the murder rate by only around 0,001. The sample of the USA is large enough to remove most of the influence of this type of randomness from the observed murder rate.

    -

    How can we think about this in relation to Espanola NM? If you imagine running around 3200 simulations of the city for a year then dividing by the population across all these simulations, or 3200 alternative universes, we have the same exposure of randomness on the city murder rate as for the USA murder rate. This is just a description of the statistical concept like a metaphor, it's not requiring you to believe in alternative universes.

    But it might be easier to explain this to the coin flip metaphor?

    If you imagine you flip the coin one time and we receive heads. The observed rate of the heads could be described like 1:1 between heads:flip.

    So, even though we sample the complete dataset, our observed rate of heads will be very different from the true rate of heads, unless it's a scammer's coin.

    If you then flip the coin one time each year, for ten years, then the coin's observed rate of heads will on average converge closer to 1:2 as heads:flip than in single year flip. So, adding the samples of additional years will improve our convergence, but in this example the data of 10 years would still not generate enough power for a very accurate estimate of coin's true rate of heads per flip

    Note that in the example above from your textbook the authors assume a Poisson distribution for the observed county cancer rates
     

    He's using part of the lesson to teach the students to try adding an expected rate, as one of the skills he wants them to try, so they can use the 10-year mean So, I guess in our example, using the data for Espanola NM, if we continue drawing the line with Poisson we expect there will be a 59% probability of at least a murder in the next year after our samples ended.

    No reasonable person looks at a Wikipedia country ranking of murder rates and assumes that the island of Jamaica is the absolutely most murderous place in the world, even if we ignore data quality issues. Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered

     

    We have been on a discussion about statistical power, but although this is part of the issue, it isn't the main reason for the distribution in the top of the list.

    Our main reason is because if you use smaller divisions, you increase the range between these divisions. It's because they are divided by the population.

    The kidney cancer example includes both of these issues and it's being used in the book mainly to teach about statistical power, but if we wanted to isolate and teach the main reason for our discussion, we probably should use an example where there isn't distinction between the true and observed rate, so we can avoid the discussion about statistical power.

    -

    We could an example of annual income, as it's a socially constructed data in a way there is no distinction between a true and observed rate, allowing us to avoid discussing statistical power.

    In the USA, the range of income between counties is a lot higher than between states, because the smaller division of the country divides by a smaller population.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for states is $24,672.

    According to Wikipedia, between 2009-2013 the range of per capita income for countries is $67,824.

    So, switching from list of states to list of counties, we are increasing the range of income in the construction of the list by 2,75 times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income)


    -

    How can we compare this to our discussion? I you want to imagine a heterogeneous list which mixes a sample of states and also some counties also.

    Like, if we have a list of states and also add randomly to our list of states, 100 counties from the sample of over 3000 counties.

    Of course, just by creating a heterogeneous list including from both types of division, we expect the items in the top and bottom of the list will be counties, because they are divided by smaller populations.


    Of course, we all know that countries are sized in an arbitrary fashion and there surely must be parts of Haiti, Baltimore or Ciudad Juarez where the probabilities of getting murdered are much higher than in Jamaica.

    But the issue is this: if I see that the Caribbean nations show the highest rates of sickle cell carrier status (which they also do) or the highest rates of Olympic medalist sprinters, is it more seasonable to assume that the signal is real and they do have high rates of both or to think that this is all just noise caused by their small size?
     

    Olympic champions could be a comparison, although they are even more rare events than murders so in reality we would have issues with this.

    Imagine a sports scientist working for Kim Jong Un wants to learn about the secret of producing the highest rates of Olympic champions.

    He wants to talk to the local government officials, look at the schools, explore the diet or study the genetics of the local populations.

    It's important he finds the place which really has these secrets, as he will be executed if he learns lessons from the incorrect destination.

    He finds Jamaica has a high rate of Olympic champions. But the state of Baja California has maybe over 50% higher rate of Olympic champions than Jamaica, even with having a 35% larger population than Jamaica? Of course, this is a science fiction example for sport, but it would be true if we compare murder rates in 2020.

    Where should a sports scientist visit? Jamaica or Baja California?

    He also looks at the Wikipedia list. But he would know, outside from the discussion about statistical power, the range of the list is expanded because of including different size divisions, which just expands the range of the values of the means when the sample size within the division is smaller.

    -

    It's an arbitrary result of the way the list has been formed and that's typical thing you would adjust for, for example if you were investigating something more normal than Olympic champions, like kidney cancer rates, where the national component is less important. Olympic champions is actually even an example which reifies a national division more than murder rates, as the item used by the Olympics is a national team.

    Replies: @Mikel

    I think that by getting too much into the weeds we are totally losing perspective of what the original discussion was about: what does the fact that Caribbean islands dominate the Wikipedia ranking of highest homicide rates in the world tell us?

    This has finally evolved into a highbrow discussion on the difference between statistical randomness and physical or “true” randomness, which is not what I expected and is a positive development for these threads, but the answer to that original question should be very clear by now and we should not forget it.

    To be clear, the fact that these islands appear in the first places of that list is NOT an artifact of the small size that some (but not all) of them have. It is well noted that, as you explained, in any such ranking units with small populations will tend to occupy both tails of the list but I have already explained in several ways why this is not quite what than ranking shows us.

    First of all, though, let’s also clarify something that should have been obvious from the beginning. All we are looking at on that list is what the title of the list says: homicide rates for one year (the one with the latest data) for all countries in the world (which, as everybody knows, are very different in size, heterogeneity, data collection ability, etc). So we’re just looking at a snapshot of what things looked like the last time we could compare them all. Nobody in their right mind would expect this snapshot to show the same ranking as the previous or the next one and logically, if instead of comparing countries and territories, we were comparing different units, the results would look different.

    Having said that, do Caribbean countries appear at the top of the list just because many of them are small? Let’s reiterate the various ways we know this is NOT the case:

    a) As your kidney cancer textbook example showed, small population units are expected to appear on both tails of an incidence list. This is more or less what we observe on the Wikipedia list, with one important exception: they are not geographically randomly distributed. The top of the list is full of Caribbean countries, small and not so small, whereas the bottom of the list also has many small countries but they are from Europe, Asia, Oceania, etc. This is similar to having a kidney cancer list of counties where we observe, as expected, many small counties on both ends of the list but the top ones are clustered around Nebraska whereas the bottom ones are randomly distributed across the rest of the US. The obvious conclusion would be that there is some environmental factor causing excess kidney cancer around Nebraska.

    b) As I showed with the macrotrends.net 5-year lists, Caribbean countries dominate the rankings in each the available years (2017 through 2021) and on the 5-year average, even though this list does not include some of the most prominent Caribbean countries in the Wikipedia list:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/ranking/murder-homicide-rate

    The answer to the question is unequivocal right there.

    c) In a more formal way, we could use the statistical infilling method that I mentioned in one of my comments. Let’s suppose that we are looking at the annual temperature record of Salt Lake City and we see that the 1930 were the hottest decade but we only have 5 years of observations for SLC that decade. We could very legitimately wonder if the 30s show as the hottest decade just because we don’t have enough data for that decade. However, let’s imagine that we do have data for 3 of the remaining years at the nearby Ogden weather station and they also show similarly high values. Now we are much more confident that the 30s must have really been one of the hottest decades in SLC area. Furthermore, we have some sparse data from the 30s for another nearby station, Wendover, that includes the missing 2 years, and they were equally hot. Our confidence that the 30s were abnormally hot in SLC is now extremely high.

    We see exactly the same thing on the Wikipedia list. The country with the highest rate is Turks and Caicos but we can perfectly assume that this is just a statistical fluke due to its small population and tells us nothing about the Caribbean region. But then we see that the second is Jamaica, a decent-sized Caribbean nation. We start to grow more confident that the Caribbean region has high homicide rates. Next we see that number 3 is the Virgin Islands. And number 5 is Haiti (a rather big Caribbean country). And numbers 6, 7 9, 11 are also Caribbean,… what can a rational person conclude just from a cursory analysis of this data?

    He’s using part of the lesson to teach the students to try adding an expected rate, as one of the skills he wants them to try, so they can use the 10-year mean So, I guess in our example, using the data for Espanola NM, if we continue drawing the line with Poisson we expect there will be a 59% probability of at least a murder in the next year after our samples ended.

    I don’t want to distract from the main point that I have discussed above but I would like to re-iterate one important thing: different types of data require different statistical tools and choosing the right model is crucial if we want to derive correct inferences. My rusty knowledge of statistics tells me that we cannot just plug in a one-size fits all equation and calculate confidence intervals that tell us very little about the underlying reality.

    It was actually me who likened homicide rates to disease incidence rates but when it comes to applying formal data analysis, there are obvious differences that make a big difference on whether applying a Poisson distribution model and calculating CIs from it or not is reasonable. I don’t know enough statistics to say what model we should use to calculate the “real” homicide rate in Española but I do know that a Poisson distribution is a very imperfect assumption. In any US town the homicide rate for one random year is going to be determined by many variables that look difficult to incorporate in a model: the number of policemen on the street, proactive arrests versus lax policing, strict versus lenient prosecutors in office, arrival of new migrants, presence or absence or gangs, poverty increasing or decreasing, copycat elements after nationwide events that increase the sense of impunity (eg BLM riots), etc. None of this can de assumed to be constant from one year to another but they all affect directly how many murders are committed. In a Poisson distribution we are assuming that there is a constant underlying rate, which is not the case with murder rates, and that there is no auto-correlation: again, an incorrect assumption. At any given location the murder rate for the year 2024 is much more likely to be similar to the 2023 rate than to the 1980 rate. So I am very skeptical that CIs derived from an equation built on just one year of data and total population in Española tell me anything of value.

  465. @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    So true. Georgian Dream is kind of like Yanukovych in 2014. Yanuk wanted a good term for Ukraine relationship with the EU. Russia outbid the corrupt EU, while saying it wasn't against EU-Russia relationships with Ukraine. The EU took the imperialist zero sum game stance.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we’ll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Mikel

    There is no way the top inside Jews are going to allow Tulsi or RFKJr anywhere near a policy authority Secretary job. They will be there for photo ops and cope. Musk is a recipient of government spending. He will be there to stuff his fat face.

    Disclaim: I am the same stupid who said Rogan would never make it to 120 minutes.

    , @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi
     
    The only way the pro-EU demonstrators could win power is by force and that would almost certainly lead to a civil war that others would join in. Moldova is similar - existential decisions are not made with 51% support.

    So why are the EU ambassadors marching? It could be just a ritual gesture, something expected today in the West fro people in those positions. But it reflects the hidden motivation: they want to better threaten Russia and would try to dismantle it if they can't control it.

    Needless to say it is extremely dangerous. Normal people don't play with fire around nukes. Compared to that Trump&Co. are the sanest group in the West in about a generation. That's why the sickos hate them so much.
    , @A123
    @Mikel


    If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.
     
    So, as a strong MAGA Republican President, Trump will have weak Democrat credentials? You have some very odd language choice.

    Or, is the unhinged TDS still strong with you? There is a test for that you know.

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcp_zGVnA_eNO1OEqPTJqBErO2QfcZcDDjbwU29dEdMNbnDqavDqgv2gZKAuE7ria7zkkA7NhMUXjE4cjBQQ2m9xNU3-6Q40V11qnJ1g77D_EebD8AHy50mczMVb2lZ8M1IKd1Jg08NuryMUwRHcmK0rKoO1mbRLHIraIzCPWaqIk2SUck5IXQma94_9w/s851/90milesd11c47eebd9d18e4b56e8b7f14ac391c_62863278_640.jpg


    vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi
     
    No one is surprised that you want a hard left establishment type. It is unlikely that you will get your wish.

    RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet
     
    VP Vance is not strictly speaking a cabinet appointee, but he will get a portfolio.

    Musk has multiple businesses to run, especially SpaceX. He is not headed to the cabinet, though a Presidential Commission chair is quite possible.

    RFKjr as head of HHS? That would give him authority over FDA.

    Vivek could fit in a number of places.


    In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles.

     

    Tucker is a great at personal communication, as was Rush Limbaugh. That does not imply that they would be great cabinet heads. There is little reason to believe that Tucker wants to be on the inside. If he does, perhaps a Special Advisor role.

    Massie is a potential PR disaster every time he gets near a microphone. A strong Trump Presidency will convince him to stay in the House. Hopefully, he will not make a Senate run in 2026. Massie could easily lose the seat to a Democrat.


    we’ll get some neocon representation instead.
     
    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, will have influence via the Senate's confirmation powers. Fortunately, MAGA will have more voices in the Senate. That will give a strong Trump 2nd term more leverage to protect key roles in law enforcement, intelligence, and foreign policy.
    ____

    You should consider backing down on your shrill & histrionic TDS extremism. You are being unreasonable when you demand 100% of Everything! Instantly! It took decades to dig this hole. It will take MAGA multiple presidencies to fix it.

    Helping your precious DNC by lying about the MAGA President is counterproductive.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    The geopolitically challenged neocons and neolibs are overextended in their delusional aims which get pushed back.

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/17102024-aaron-mate-discusses-foreign-policy-at-hofstra-university-oped/

    Excerpt -


    Among the comparative examples, Putin isn’t a worse global actor than Joe Biden (before and after his discernible cognitive decline) and (based on her unimaginative go with the flow establishment comments) Kamala Harris. In comparison, Putin more closely resembles the proverbial “adult in the room”.

    Since 1950, as well as since 2000, the US tops the chart when it comes to attacking other nations and killing people in the process. Saying that the US adversaries weren’t virtuous makes the case for Russia, relative to Georgia and Ukraine.

    Georgia attacked South Ossetia in 2008, killing Russian civilians and peacekeepers. If Russia is so bad, then why do the Ossetians and Abkhaz prefer Russia over Georgia? Georgia could be somewhat of a precursor for Ukraine.

    Mikheil Saakashvili, the leader of Georgia in 2008 is now in a Georgian prison. Georgia has refused to join an economic blockade of Russia and a Kiev regime request to open up a second front against Russia. The Georgian government is considering a formal apology to South Ossetia. Key elements of the Georgian government are at odds with Western neocons and neolibs over the latter’s hypocritical opposition to a FARA like law (monitoring the foreign funding of non-governmental organizations) adopted in Georgia. The Georgian and Russian churches maintain good relations.
     
  466. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we'll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Beckow, @A123, @Mikhail

    There is no way the top inside Jews are going to allow Tulsi or RFKJr anywhere near a policy authority Secretary job. They will be there for photo ops and cope. Musk is a recipient of government spending. He will be there to stuff his fat face.

    Disclaim: I am the same stupid who said Rogan would never make it to 120 minutes.

  467. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we'll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Beckow, @A123, @Mikhail

    …German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi

    The only way the pro-EU demonstrators could win power is by force and that would almost certainly lead to a civil war that others would join in. Moldova is similar – existential decisions are not made with 51% support.

    So why are the EU ambassadors marching? It could be just a ritual gesture, something expected today in the West fro people in those positions. But it reflects the hidden motivation: they want to better threaten Russia and would try to dismantle it if they can’t control it.

    Needless to say it is extremely dangerous. Normal people don’t play with fire around nukes. Compared to that Trump&Co. are the sanest group in the West in about a generation. That’s why the sickos hate them so much.

  468. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we'll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Beckow, @A123, @Mikhail

    If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    So, as a strong MAGA Republican President, Trump will have weak Democrat credentials? You have some very odd language choice.

    Or, is the unhinged TDS still strong with you? There is a test for that you know.

     

    vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi

    No one is surprised that you want a hard left establishment type. It is unlikely that you will get your wish.

    RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet

    VP Vance is not strictly speaking a cabinet appointee, but he will get a portfolio.

    Musk has multiple businesses to run, especially SpaceX. He is not headed to the cabinet, though a Presidential Commission chair is quite possible.

    RFKjr as head of HHS? That would give him authority over FDA.

    Vivek could fit in a number of places.

    In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles.

    Tucker is a great at personal communication, as was Rush Limbaugh. That does not imply that they would be great cabinet heads. There is little reason to believe that Tucker wants to be on the inside. If he does, perhaps a Special Advisor role.

    Massie is a potential PR disaster every time he gets near a microphone. A strong Trump Presidency will convince him to stay in the House. Hopefully, he will not make a Senate run in 2026. Massie could easily lose the seat to a Democrat.

    we’ll get some neocon representation instead.

    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, will have influence via the Senate’s confirmation powers. Fortunately, MAGA will have more voices in the Senate. That will give a strong Trump 2nd term more leverage to protect key roles in law enforcement, intelligence, and foreign policy.
    ____

    You should consider backing down on your shrill & histrionic TDS extremism. You are being unreasonable when you demand 100% of Everything! Instantly! It took decades to dig this hole. It will take MAGA multiple presidencies to fix it.

    Helping your precious DNC by lying about the MAGA President is counterproductive.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123


    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham
     
    Haven't you ever wondered why so few people reply to your posts? And, relatedly, haven't you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?

    Launching moronic accusations to the people who provide solid arguments to vote for Trump, which you are unable to do, while leaving the people who support Kamala here unchallenged, is as dumb as the Haitian cats controversy and the government controlling the weather idiocy. If it wasn't for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

  469. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    It's funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they're retreating on all fronts.

    "Failure to contain the war is encouraging seismic geopolitical shifts, most notably the China-Russia “no-limits” partnership. China’s president, Xi Jinping, gets cheap oil; ostracised Putin gets sanctions-busting dual-use tech plus diplomatic backing. But it’s so much more than that. At last week’s Brics summit – hosted by Putin – Russia, China, India, Brazil and South Africa were joined by Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and, alarmingly, Nato member Turkey (among many others). Putin envisages a global anti-western alliance, Xi a post-American, China-led 21st-century new world order."

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/ukraine-russia-war-nato-biden-putin

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It’s funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they’re retreating on all fronts.

    No one has referred to the drones as wunderwaffen. It’s more an admiral use of a new technology and makes the occupation of a hostile city all the more difficult.

    Let me know when the Orc King and his washing machine raiders finally make it to Kharkiv. It’s only 30 minutes from the Russian border and remains untouched.

    World is super impressed with Russia’s military invasion of a smaller country that has 1/8th the infantry and jet ski drones for a navy. Nearly year 3 of the 2.5 week special operation and Ukraine is still in Russia.

    Super duper impressed.

    At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev."

    At this rate Ukraine will have no whole men left in maybe two years. Sad.

    Still, keep telling yourself about washing machines ...

    Replies: @AP

  470. @A123
    @Mikel


    If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.
     
    So, as a strong MAGA Republican President, Trump will have weak Democrat credentials? You have some very odd language choice.

    Or, is the unhinged TDS still strong with you? There is a test for that you know.

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcp_zGVnA_eNO1OEqPTJqBErO2QfcZcDDjbwU29dEdMNbnDqavDqgv2gZKAuE7ria7zkkA7NhMUXjE4cjBQQ2m9xNU3-6Q40V11qnJ1g77D_EebD8AHy50mczMVb2lZ8M1IKd1Jg08NuryMUwRHcmK0rKoO1mbRLHIraIzCPWaqIk2SUck5IXQma94_9w/s851/90milesd11c47eebd9d18e4b56e8b7f14ac391c_62863278_640.jpg


    vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi
     
    No one is surprised that you want a hard left establishment type. It is unlikely that you will get your wish.

    RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet
     
    VP Vance is not strictly speaking a cabinet appointee, but he will get a portfolio.

    Musk has multiple businesses to run, especially SpaceX. He is not headed to the cabinet, though a Presidential Commission chair is quite possible.

    RFKjr as head of HHS? That would give him authority over FDA.

    Vivek could fit in a number of places.


    In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles.

     

    Tucker is a great at personal communication, as was Rush Limbaugh. That does not imply that they would be great cabinet heads. There is little reason to believe that Tucker wants to be on the inside. If he does, perhaps a Special Advisor role.

    Massie is a potential PR disaster every time he gets near a microphone. A strong Trump Presidency will convince him to stay in the House. Hopefully, he will not make a Senate run in 2026. Massie could easily lose the seat to a Democrat.


    we’ll get some neocon representation instead.
     
    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, will have influence via the Senate's confirmation powers. Fortunately, MAGA will have more voices in the Senate. That will give a strong Trump 2nd term more leverage to protect key roles in law enforcement, intelligence, and foreign policy.
    ____

    You should consider backing down on your shrill & histrionic TDS extremism. You are being unreasonable when you demand 100% of Everything! Instantly! It took decades to dig this hole. It will take MAGA multiple presidencies to fix it.

    Helping your precious DNC by lying about the MAGA President is counterproductive.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham

    Haven’t you ever wondered why so few people reply to your posts? And, relatedly, haven’t you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?

    Launching moronic accusations to the people who provide solid arguments to vote for Trump, which you are unable to do, while leaving the people who support Kamala here unchallenged, is as dumb as the Haitian cats controversy and the government controlling the weather idiocy. If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    haven’t you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?
     
    ROTFLMAO

    As usual, your #NeverMAGA cult fanaticism is 180° wrong. I am speaking out to protect and support MAGA. This includes helping the MAGA candidate and future President.

    Have you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm MAGA?

    • Every time you lie about Trump to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.
    • Every time you go for cheap shot TDS insults to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.

    Are you going to stick with #NeverMAGA unhinged lies and insults for the next 4 years and beyond? If so, will correct your lies for the next 4+ years.

    If you want us to believe you support MAGA, it is 100% under your control. If you stop helping your precious DNC, I will have nothing to call out.

    The choice is yours, not mine. Are you capable of showing minimal self control & truthfulness? Or, will you continue to lie?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever
     
    Indeed. If it wasn't for the fact that Trump surrounds himself with a collection of weirdos such as the literal psychopath RFK Jr., smarmy Indian swindler Vivek who made a fortune off Americans with his failed Alzheimer's medication, probable Russia asset Tulsi, and slippery tool of South African oligarchs Vance, I would have voted for him as I did in 2020.

    Replies: @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  471. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s funny then that with all these wunderwaffen they’re retreating on all fronts.

    No one has referred to the drones as wunderwaffen. It's more an admiral use of a new technology and makes the occupation of a hostile city all the more difficult.

    Let me know when the Orc King and his washing machine raiders finally make it to Kharkiv. It's only 30 minutes from the Russian border and remains untouched.

    World is super impressed with Russia's military invasion of a smaller country that has 1/8th the infantry and jet ski drones for a navy. Nearly year 3 of the 2.5 week special operation and Ukraine is still in Russia.

    Super duper impressed.

    At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev.”

    At this rate Ukraine will have no whole men left in maybe two years. Sad.

    Still, keep telling yourself about washing machines …

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    At this rate Ukraine will have no whole men left in maybe two years. Sad.
     
    So now you think Ukraine has 240,000 men of fighting age?

    Ukraine has lost about 120k dead in 2.5 years. Horrific, but at this rate it will not run out of men in two more years. Currently Russia is losing about 2 men for every one Ukraine loses.
  472. @Mikel
    @A123


    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham
     
    Haven't you ever wondered why so few people reply to your posts? And, relatedly, haven't you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?

    Launching moronic accusations to the people who provide solid arguments to vote for Trump, which you are unable to do, while leaving the people who support Kamala here unchallenged, is as dumb as the Haitian cats controversy and the government controlling the weather idiocy. If it wasn't for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    haven’t you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?

    ROTFLMAO

    As usual, your #NeverMAGA cult fanaticism is 180° wrong. I am speaking out to protect and support MAGA. This includes helping the MAGA candidate and future President.

    Have you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm MAGA?

    • Every time you lie about Trump to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.
    • Every time you go for cheap shot TDS insults to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.

    Are you going to stick with #NeverMAGA unhinged lies and insults for the next 4 years and beyond? If so, will correct your lies for the next 4+ years.

    If you want us to believe you support MAGA, it is 100% under your control. If you stop helping your precious DNC, I will have nothing to call out.

    The choice is yours, not mine. Are you capable of showing minimal self control & truthfulness? Or, will you continue to lie?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ga35HL3a0AAE-4l?format=png&name=small

    Replies: @A123

  473. @A123
    @Mikel


    haven’t you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?
     
    ROTFLMAO

    As usual, your #NeverMAGA cult fanaticism is 180° wrong. I am speaking out to protect and support MAGA. This includes helping the MAGA candidate and future President.

    Have you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm MAGA?

    • Every time you lie about Trump to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.
    • Every time you go for cheap shot TDS insults to intentionally harm MAGA, I will call out your efforts to help your precious DNC.

    Are you going to stick with #NeverMAGA unhinged lies and insults for the next 4 years and beyond? If so, will correct your lies for the next 4+ years.

    If you want us to believe you support MAGA, it is 100% under your control. If you stop helping your precious DNC, I will have nothing to call out.

    The choice is yours, not mine. Are you capable of showing minimal self control & truthfulness? Or, will you continue to lie?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard

    You, Mikel, and James Carville sound identical: (1)


    Democratic strategist James Carville said Monday on MSNBC’s “The Beat” that former President Donald Trump was a “fat,” “pathetic” loser.

     

    Should I start calling the two of you Carville's Kids? You sound exactly like your DNC thought leader.

    There is too much attention. Your #NeverMAGA attempt to steal the election will fail. The three of you need to get together to cry in your vegan soy lattes as the results come in.
    ___

    Mikel's and your total absence of a sense of humour cripples you. Memes can work to keep attention on important topics.

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIxvG6R389iINZZgGs7P0WHPDj7QD-UMMrNFfyvdyQvavpXUufMWxKpA8QDbXm2EYsW8YzzPXJFsPcNwmLO7OopRl-WrNKTfPop4uSlpgZgTL-2qjZX3pmlseuRXQmQBc37IQrTrM8RnFmB9tIM3lDjphdrQNLnTevi4idr3rDpWiH4pbrL_dZB3bLn5I/s500/90miles6d4804675777e6dfad609bcdb35f135a_e4895826_500.jpg
     


    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/10/28/james-carville-trump-is-a-fat-pathetic-loser/
  474. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ga35HL3a0AAE-4l?format=png&name=small

    Replies: @A123

    You, Mikel, and James Carville sound identical: (1)

    Democratic strategist James Carville said Monday on MSNBC’s “The Beat” that former President Donald Trump was a “fat,” “pathetic” loser.

    Should I start calling the two of you Carville’s Kids? You sound exactly like your DNC thought leader.

    There is too much attention. Your #NeverMAGA attempt to steal the election will fail. The three of you need to get together to cry in your vegan soy lattes as the results come in.
    ___

    Mikel’s and your total absence of a sense of humour cripples you. Memes can work to keep attention on important topics.

     

     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/10/28/james-carville-trump-is-a-fat-pathetic-loser/

  475. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    "Bono has been woke at least since the original Liveaid to save starving Ethiopians."

    Well, it worked.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ethiopia#Population


    Its total population has grown from 38.1 million in 1983 to 109.5 million in 2018. The population was only about nine million in the 19th century.
     

    Replies: @songbird

    In 2050, Ethiopia will have the same number the US had in 1980.

    Nigeria is already past that point now.

  476. @A123
    @songbird

    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies. It might even be called "left" in some parts of the world. The current coalition is best described as "center right". Those who want to exterminate Palestinian Jews placed wacky and incorrect terminology into circulation.

    You should not find this surprising. They have used similar labels for Marie Le Pen and Viktor Orban. Lying is the Fake Stream Media's business model.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies

    It is interesting to consider the theory that the gay guy may be there for optics.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Israel is the fakest gayest country that's ever been. It's like if San Francisco was a country.

  477. @songbird
    @A123


    Likud is a surprisingly centrist party in terms of policies
     
    It is interesting to consider the theory that the gay guy may be there for optics.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Israel is the fakest gayest country that’s ever been. It’s like if San Francisco was a country.

    • LOL: songbird
  478. Scholz has been to India thrice in the past two years. I think that is more than TF.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @songbird

    Amuses me all the criticisms of Merkel you get these days when Scholz has been an utter disaster. Of course the criticism isn't for her handling of the migrant crisis, but because she was somewhat independent of the US. Using cheap Russian raw materials and selling high end machine tools to China was a sensible strategy, Scholz and Baerbock tearing that up was stupid.

    Replies: @songbird

  479. @Dmitry
    @AP

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn't something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn't something which indicates she is cheating.

    Ukraine is a war zone, so that's also not necessarily a fake refugee or only an economic immigrant. Usually, since 2022 the Ukrainians arriving in the West a mix of economic immigrants and real refugees, depending mainly on their region of origin. So, probably we would need to know their region of origin, before judging too much if they are a refugee or an economic immigrant.


    In the 1990s Russian grad

     

    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It's not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It's also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can't predict if you will have food next harvest.


    It’s just Socialist morality.

     

    I know, this is part of the American Cold War ideology, to try to say every cultural difference between the USA and Russia, is because of socialism.

    But, it's not matching to knowledge of history. In the 19th century, people had higher dependency on the government and with tricking the system, even than in the 20th century.

    And 19th century the panslavist historians, love the stories about how in the 17th century, beggars were more sophisticated, than in the 19th century.

    So, the social trust has not exactly been declining each century in some of these areas. Cheats in the 17th century, would view the cheats in the 20th century, as probably naive and not very sophisticated, if you can believe those stories.


    https://i.imgur.com/pBebasA.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @AP

    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It’s not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It’s also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can’t predict if you will have food next harvest.

    You seem to have made a good case that because this corruption and expertise at swindling the government predates the Soviet Union, it is not Soviet morality but rather Russian morality and therefore its presence is a marker of Russification rather than Sovietization.

    So the diaspora Armenians and Ukrainians who complained about their post-Soviet brothers were dealing with Russian rather than Soviet influence upon morality.

    However, the many Russian White emigres who fled West after the Revolution did not have these features and did not produce such a reputation.

    One can therefore conclude that it was not Russian morality in general, but rather the morality of downtrodden Russian peasants in particular (including those who had recently moved into cities to become proletarians), seeking to get one over on “the man” and take what they can, swindle and cheat, maybe even steal if they can get away with it. It is all understandable, they had very difficult lives and had to be cunning to survive.

    The Bolsheviks, having wiped or driven into exile the other classes who did not have this kind of morality (the nobility, the urban bourgeoise, the Cossacks, much of the intelligenstia), left these peasants and proles as the “default Russians.” The Bolsheviks may have continued the Tsar-era legacy of promoting literacy and may have provided the ex-peasants and their descendants with a taste for ballet and literature, but they did not mess with their morality. Bolshevism was mostly about theft anyways, it was a convenient fit.

    And then they spread it to Armenia, Ukraine, Poland, etc. The areas with the longest period of Soviet rule were most influenced by ancient Russian peasant morality. So Galicia and Poland, less than Russia and eastern Ukraine.

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn’t something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn’t something which indicates she is cheating.

    Yes, this particular example by Matra probably wasn’t a valid one. But the general point was not wrong.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Does it strike you that Russia's 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants' belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn't worth it?

    Replies: @AP

  480. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "At this rate it should only take 10 years to get back to Kiev."

    At this rate Ukraine will have no whole men left in maybe two years. Sad.

    Still, keep telling yourself about washing machines ...

    Replies: @AP

    At this rate Ukraine will have no whole men left in maybe two years. Sad.

    So now you think Ukraine has 240,000 men of fighting age?

    Ukraine has lost about 120k dead in 2.5 years. Horrific, but at this rate it will not run out of men in two more years. Currently Russia is losing about 2 men for every one Ukraine loses.

  481. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/42056941/world-series-averaging-1515m-viewers-japan

    World Series averaging 15.15M viewers in Japan

    The Japanese advertisers are getting their money’s worth!

  482. @Sean
    @John Johnson

    China prolly did not want Russia to mount the SMO, but this interminable war that has grown out of the failre of the SMO is helping the Chinese to be seen as a a friend of Russia, and the West as an implacable enemy. If Russia enters into an alliance with China then China has the key to world domination down the line. So any help China gives Russia will pay off big time for China whether or not Russia gets a victory. They already are helping them, you don't think NK is doing anything with Russia that China does not quietly approve of do you?

    The Russians are not going to quit, if they were it would have happened already. I think we are about half way through the war. That does not mean Russia is going to win in the end but I think they are going to try to grind it out and China is not going to cut Russia off as long it wants to keep trying.

    Replies: @AP

    The Russians are not going to quit, if they were it would have happened already. I think we are about half way through the war. That does not mean Russia is going to win in the end

    If the bolded part is true and Russia ends up having to settle for a non-win, then the Russians will have indeed quit.

    The Russians are not going to undergo full mobilization, if they could they would have done so by now. So eventually they will come to terms with the fact that they will not own Kiev, Dnipro, and most of the lands that Kiev currently controls. Which means they will have to accept that those lands will eventually join some Western alliance and be lost to Russia forever. They can console themselves with the knowledge that they salvaged Crimea, Donbas, maybe the Crimean corridor. The question is how many years and how many deaths it will take for the inevitable conclusion to be reached.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
  483. I think the war ends when the people at the level of political power in Ukraine just below the puppet Zelensky decides they are tired of seeing their own country destroyed for no good reason.

    You are saying that the political leaders of Ukraine should ignore the people and submit the country to Russian rule?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine's bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war. I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    The results of this Western proxy war are predictably tragic but many of the Ukies including AP and Hack went into this mess with eyes wide open.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  484. • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The ultimate rat rod!

    It will be interesting to see what new Russian tanks come out of this. Updated T80/T90, T14 or something else, smaller and more agile? Maybe they will give up the 125 mm direct fire cannon and go for a more lethal missile of some sort. Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  485. @John Johnson
    I think the war ends when the people at the level of political power in Ukraine just below the puppet Zelensky decides they are tired of seeing their own country destroyed for no good reason.

    You are saying that the political leaders of Ukraine should ignore the people and submit the country to Russian rule?

    Replies: @QCIC

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine’s bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war. I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    The results of this Western proxy war are predictably tragic but many of the Ukies including AP and Hack went into this mess with eyes wide open.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine’s bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war.

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine's leaders should ignore the people?

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

  486. @John Johnson
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUC5IFgMFoA

    https://meme-generator.com/wp-content/uploads/mememe/2020/09/mememe_0dbc75281ce18dd37b6153b786a258f9-1.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    The ultimate rat rod!

    It will be interesting to see what new Russian tanks come out of this. Updated T80/T90, T14 or something else, smaller and more agile? Maybe they will give up the 125 mm direct fire cannon and go for a more lethal missile of some sort. Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    They'll probably stick a drunk Russian in a T-34 and use it for crude artillery or mine detecting the hard way.

    Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    Yea it's a waste of gas.

    Getting them into Ukraine will be a feat in itself. The engine is from WW2 and they aren't known to be reliable. I assume they will be used in "one and done" battles. Or maybe just drop them off with trucks in defensive positions.

    The Ukrainians can probably take one out with a small fpv drone.

    You're better off with all around armor and wheels.

    Replies: @QCIC

  487. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    It is not about protecting Ukraine or Georgia; btw Georgia is lost to Russia and the lunatic is in jail. It is all about encircling Russia by military bases - a useless big grandiose project that denies all American better life. I know, I live there.

    This is all very strange, because apparently NATO/US won the cold war - according to the MSM annoying jubilation - and the main enemy Warsaw Pact disappeared and that suppose to bring lasting peace. However, American Industrial Complexes (the US shadow government) need creating new enemies, especially after Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan fiasco. They still cannot rationalized about dismal chances against Sino-Russian alliance.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    When did NATO plan military bases in Ukraine? Actual military bases, not just military instructors for Ukrainian troops.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    The whole Ukraine failing military engagement is run by Washington. People do not forget the US biological labs in Ukraine intended for clandestine biological warfare against Russians - those are banned WMD. Yankees are playing sinister game that will badly backfire, they cannot defeat Sino-Russian alliance, that was actually strengthen by their brainless arrogance.

    Replies: @QCIC

  488. @AP
    @Dmitry


    I agree, the dependency on free things and trying to cheat for more state resources, is not specific for Ukraine, but part of the culture in all Russia, Belarus and other regions.

    It’s not true to say this is originating from socialism or the Soviet Union, as it was even more in the culture of the Russian empire and even the Russian kingdom of the 17th and 18th century.

    Why were thousands crushed in 1896? The government was giving free things. https://tass.ru/opinions/11457815

    It’s also not necessarily correct or incorrect behavior. They were for centuries survival skills in the region, where starvation was a common reality and you historically can’t predict if you will have food next harvest.
     
    You seem to have made a good case that because this corruption and expertise at swindling the government predates the Soviet Union, it is not Soviet morality but rather Russian morality and therefore its presence is a marker of Russification rather than Sovietization.

    So the diaspora Armenians and Ukrainians who complained about their post-Soviet brothers were dealing with Russian rather than Soviet influence upon morality.

    However, the many Russian White emigres who fled West after the Revolution did not have these features and did not produce such a reputation.

    One can therefore conclude that it was not Russian morality in general, but rather the morality of downtrodden Russian peasants in particular (including those who had recently moved into cities to become proletarians), seeking to get one over on "the man" and take what they can, swindle and cheat, maybe even steal if they can get away with it. It is all understandable, they had very difficult lives and had to be cunning to survive.

    The Bolsheviks, having wiped or driven into exile the other classes who did not have this kind of morality (the nobility, the urban bourgeoise, the Cossacks, much of the intelligenstia), left these peasants and proles as the "default Russians." The Bolsheviks may have continued the Tsar-era legacy of promoting literacy and may have provided the ex-peasants and their descendants with a taste for ballet and literature, but they did not mess with their morality. Bolshevism was mostly about theft anyways, it was a convenient fit.

    And then they spread it to Armenia, Ukraine, Poland, etc. The areas with the longest period of Soviet rule were most influenced by ancient Russian peasant morality. So Galicia and Poland, less than Russia and eastern Ukraine.

    They are Ukrainian in Canada, not Russian.

    But there isn’t something necessarily wrong in this example, as she could be visiting a food donation for Ukrainian refugees. There isn’t something which indicates she is cheating.
     
    Yes, this particular example by Matra probably wasn't a valid one. But the general point was not wrong.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Does it strike you that Russia’s 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants’ belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn’t worth it?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Does it strike you that Russia’s 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants’ belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn’t worth it?
     
    Yes, the attitude of take what you can get for yourself and immediate family and screwing the government or others as much as possible contributed to that. Notably, the elite did not share this attitude. One reason why the White emigres tended to be poor when they escaped Weat is that because of their sense of patriotism and duty they had sold most of their foreign assets in 1914. Contrast that with the new elites raised under the Soviets, with their Russian-Soviet peasant mortality, who steal locally and transfer abroad.

    This Russian peasant morality hampers Russia’s war efforts. Most of the money earmarked for military reform and modernization ended up getting stolen and is sitting in the foreign accounts of defence ministry officials. Not only from before the war started - Kursk ended up having shoddy defences. (Ukraine is not free of such problems either)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  489. @songbird
    Scholz has been to India thrice in the past two years. I think that is more than TF.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Amuses me all the criticisms of Merkel you get these days when Scholz has been an utter disaster. Of course the criticism isn’t for her handling of the migrant crisis, but because she was somewhat independent of the US. Using cheap Russian raw materials and selling high end machine tools to China was a sensible strategy, Scholz and Baerbock tearing that up was stupid.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @songbird
    @LondonBob


    Using cheap Russian raw materials and selling high end machine tools to China was a sensible strategy, Scholz and Baerbock tearing that up was stupid.
     
    I expect that they are pretty similar both to each other and to other German pols when push comes to shove. I don't think Merkel would have stood up against the Nord Stream bombing, nor Scholz against the migrant hordes. It may be that this could even be extended to their predecessors, in a time-dependent manner.

    But it still may be rhetorically useful to single them out for their own sins.
  490. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Does it strike you that Russia's 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants' belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn't worth it?

    Replies: @AP

    Does it strike you that Russia’s 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants’ belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn’t worth it?

    Yes, the attitude of take what you can get for yourself and immediate family and screwing the government or others as much as possible contributed to that. Notably, the elite did not share this attitude. One reason why the White emigres tended to be poor when they escaped Weat is that because of their sense of patriotism and duty they had sold most of their foreign assets in 1914. Contrast that with the new elites raised under the Soviets, with their Russian-Soviet peasant mortality, who steal locally and transfer abroad.

    This Russian peasant morality hampers Russia’s war efforts. Most of the money earmarked for military reform and modernization ended up getting stolen and is sitting in the foreign accounts of defence ministry officials. Not only from before the war started – Kursk ended up having shoddy defences. (Ukraine is not free of such problems either)

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    One reason why the White emigres tended to be poor when they escaped West is that because of their sense of patriotism and duty they had sold most of their foreign assets in 1914.
     
    To be fair, though, they also didn't expect Russia to transform itself into a monster-state as a result of WWI.

    And they were blinded in another way. Specifically the idea that they had to fight for Serbia in order to defend Russia's honor. And to keep on fighting even when it was clear that the war was going to be a long one.
  491. I had no idea that English people call rutabagas “swedes.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga

    Surely, that is more humorous than some of these other differing words, like bonnet (hood – relating to car) and lift (elevator.)

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    We tended to call then turnips, but discussions consistently developed about the differences between turnips and swede. I see that according to Wiki they are variant names for the same thing, apart from in the case of the distinctive white turnips.

    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic, there is something similar with different words refering to the same food in the case of cilantro and coriander, the herb. I think eggplant and aubergine as well.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    It's the "neeps" in the Scottish Burns Night dish of haggis, neeps and 'tatties' (potatoes).

    Nice with butter and pepper, but not very nutritious. The Steckrübenwinter or Turnip Winter of 1916-17 Germany must have been painful indeed, especially if feeding small children.

  492. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    My favorite riffs:

    I point out this conflict in Ukraine has serious nuclear warfare implications which should be understood and avoided.

    I point out this bloody conflict in Ukraine is obviously a proxy war started by the West against Russia.

    I point out technical tidbits related to Russian industrial and military capability which show that in certain respects the country is much more capable than is widely understood.

    With some sympathy I point out that Ukrainians have volunteered to be pawns in a deadly war which they could have avoided.

    These points upset you because they don't fit into your misguided ethno-nationalistic and bloodthirsty perspective. I understand that you do not consider yourself bloodthirsty, but what you advocate has predictably led to rivers of blood. The facts speak louder and more clearly than your delusions.

    +++

    Old John McLaughlin: "The Inner Mounting Flame"
    Middle John Mc: "The Peacocks" (from The Promise 1995)
    Newer John Mc: I don't know.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Old John McLaughlin: “The Inner Mounting Flame”

    In the same vein, but even better. I saw and heard Mahavishnu play live at the top of their popularity:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Nice that you were able to catch a live show. I was a big fan of the Mahavishnu Orchestra on vinyl in the 80's. I was able to attend a John McLaughlin concert.

    I thought about listing "Birds of Fire" but some of it is now screechy to my ears. I loved the album back in the day.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  493. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    Old John McLaughlin: “The Inner Mounting Flame”
     
    In the same vein, but even better. I saw and heard Mahavishnu play live at the top of their popularity:

    https://open.spotify.com/album/6SLknspfGod3v3TyWawl8J?si=6-c6atmCR-6hZwMhCj3Jhw

    Replies: @QCIC

    Nice that you were able to catch a live show. I was a big fan of the Mahavishnu Orchestra on vinyl in the 80’s. I was able to attend a John McLaughlin concert.

    I thought about listing “Birds of Fire” but some of it is now screechy to my ears. I loved the album back in the day.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Too "screechy for your ears", eh? Try this one on for size, a little more refined? I'm listening to it right now. It could very well be the best of the bunch. :-)

    https://open.spotify.com/album/7J0OL2Ai73lJZu06coM0Oo?si=dbpS0I4hSLagHy3rFtkIow

    Replies: @QCIC

  494. @LondonBob
    @songbird

    Amuses me all the criticisms of Merkel you get these days when Scholz has been an utter disaster. Of course the criticism isn't for her handling of the migrant crisis, but because she was somewhat independent of the US. Using cheap Russian raw materials and selling high end machine tools to China was a sensible strategy, Scholz and Baerbock tearing that up was stupid.

    Replies: @songbird

    Using cheap Russian raw materials and selling high end machine tools to China was a sensible strategy, Scholz and Baerbock tearing that up was stupid.

    I expect that they are pretty similar both to each other and to other German pols when push comes to shove. I don’t think Merkel would have stood up against the Nord Stream bombing, nor Scholz against the migrant hordes. It may be that this could even be extended to their predecessors, in a time-dependent manner.

    But it still may be rhetorically useful to single them out for their own sins.

  495. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Nice that you were able to catch a live show. I was a big fan of the Mahavishnu Orchestra on vinyl in the 80's. I was able to attend a John McLaughlin concert.

    I thought about listing "Birds of Fire" but some of it is now screechy to my ears. I loved the album back in the day.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Too “screechy for your ears”, eh? Try this one on for size, a little more refined? I’m listening to it right now. It could very well be the best of the bunch. 🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Thanks, I know it well. I have three of the first four studio albums and the live album which I have listened to many times over the years. I think all these records were among my favorites at one time or another, including "Visions of the Emerald Beyond". I think the violin and guitar playing together with a slight dissonance in Birds of Fire may be much for people who are not already committed fusion or electric guitar fans.

  496. https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/why-did-trump-rogan-refuse-to-touch

    Why Did Trump, Rogan Refuse to Touch COVID Vaxx in Three-Hour Interview?

    From today’s newslinks. I know the answer to this one. Because on Friday Joe the Bald may have used the F word but he was totally in the mood to kiss Donald the Fat’s fat ass. He does that some times.

  497. I closed the tab at 38:55 on the fourth day and it was grueling to get that far. I took 7 or 8 runs at it and don’t know the exact numbers. It is not interesting. I did read the whole transcript.

    Willie Brown’s skank ho isn’t going on because Joe the Bald wouldn’t sign an agreement to play nice but Secret Hillbilly Secret Agent (who does not go by the name on his birth certificate–Anglin wrote a couple posts about it) is going on there before next Tuesday. Big whoop dee doo.

    It’s easy to get along with Rogan if the stuff you won’t talk about and the stuff he won’t talk about are mostly the exact same stuff. Does Vance know anything about wrestling or boxing or Brazilian jew jit soo?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard


    Brazilian jew jit soo?
     
    I have been wondering about these guys that use it to take down thugs.

    Is it just because it is effective and what they are most familiar with? Or are they trying to protect themselves from insane progressives and charges of racism?

    I mean, like, if you are capable of something like muay thai - maybe it would be really effective to just do a high kick or a punch to someone's head - some of these people present as being pretty aggressive or dangerous. But much more politically fraught than getting a hold on someone - which of course is also very fraught now too.

    https://twitter.com/Lamelee_off/status/1851065115283767487

  498. Probably haven’t read many scientific papers out of Iran, but so far I have never come across one that has been paywalled. Can’t obviously say that for any other country, including China.

  499. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Some months ago I predicted in one of these threads that there would be violence in Georgia. I know very little about that country but the fact that the German and Lithuanian ambassadors were marching in the streets of Tbilisi in support of violent protesters and that the EU and the US were threatening that small country because its ruling party was not following the party line of being belligerent against Russia told me all I needed to know. As it happened, the protests appeared to subside after the Georgian parliament passed an anti foreign influence law that is similar to those in place in the US and elsewhere. But sadly, my prediction looks to get fulfilled. And the last thing on the minds of the EU-US establishment creatures is to try to prevent people from dying in that country. One more reason to vote for the candidate that may hopefully include Tulsi, RFKjr, Elon, Vance and Vivek in his cabinet. In an ideal world Tucker and Thomas Massie would also get some roles. But I guess that is day-dreaming and we'll get some neocon representation instead. If he does manage to defeat Kamala, one of the weakest Democrat presidential candidates ever.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Beckow, @A123, @Mikhail

    The geopolitically challenged neocons and neolibs are overextended in their delusional aims which get pushed back.

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/17102024-aaron-mate-discusses-foreign-policy-at-hofstra-university-oped/

    Excerpt –

    Among the comparative examples, Putin isn’t a worse global actor than Joe Biden (before and after his discernible cognitive decline) and (based on her unimaginative go with the flow establishment comments) Kamala Harris. In comparison, Putin more closely resembles the proverbial “adult in the room”.

    Since 1950, as well as since 2000, the US tops the chart when it comes to attacking other nations and killing people in the process. Saying that the US adversaries weren’t virtuous makes the case for Russia, relative to Georgia and Ukraine.

    Georgia attacked South Ossetia in 2008, killing Russian civilians and peacekeepers. If Russia is so bad, then why do the Ossetians and Abkhaz prefer Russia over Georgia? Georgia could be somewhat of a precursor for Ukraine.

    Mikheil Saakashvili, the leader of Georgia in 2008 is now in a Georgian prison. Georgia has refused to join an economic blockade of Russia and a Kiev regime request to open up a second front against Russia. The Georgian government is considering a formal apology to South Ossetia. Key elements of the Georgian government are at odds with Western neocons and neolibs over the latter’s hypocritical opposition to a FARA like law (monitoring the foreign funding of non-governmental organizations) adopted in Georgia. The Georgian and Russian churches maintain good relations.

  500. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    When did NATO plan military bases in Ukraine? Actual military bases, not just military instructors for Ukrainian troops.

    Replies: @Derer

    The whole Ukraine failing military engagement is run by Washington. People do not forget the US biological labs in Ukraine intended for clandestine biological warfare against Russians – those are banned WMD. Yankees are playing sinister game that will badly backfire, they cannot defeat Sino-Russian alliance, that was actually strengthen by their brainless arrogance.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Derer

    I'm still waiting for the next tidbit of information on the US bioweapons labs in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

  501. @songbird
    I had no idea that English people call rutabagas "swedes."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga

    Surely, that is more humorous than some of these other differing words, like bonnet (hood - relating to car) and lift (elevator.)

    Replies: @Coconuts, @YetAnotherAnon

    We tended to call then turnips, but discussions consistently developed about the differences between turnips and swede. I see that according to Wiki they are variant names for the same thing, apart from in the case of the distinctive white turnips.

    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic, there is something similar with different words refering to the same food in the case of cilantro and coriander, the herb. I think eggplant and aubergine as well.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Coconuts

    We need a plant biochemist to inform us the distinction between plants which are food (broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, spinach, potatoes, carrots, peas, beans, &c)

    and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c).

    Why are some varieties of squash (e.g. zucchini) food and some varieties are vomit?

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @songbird
    @Coconuts


    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic
     
    Within America, it is common word, though most (myself included) would be hard-pressed to identify exactly what it looks like as compared to true turnips. So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.

    I think it is acknowledged to be one of those words which somehow inherently sound funny. Perhaps, connected to the fact it comes from Swedish, which is also considered to sound comical.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word "gay" should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called "rutabagas." I think it was a local radio personality.

    It was Tom Roswell (Jive) who I saw employ the word "swede" in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Rowsell/status/1851215515064152360

    Replies: @Coconuts

  502. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    We tended to call then turnips, but discussions consistently developed about the differences between turnips and swede. I see that according to Wiki they are variant names for the same thing, apart from in the case of the distinctive white turnips.

    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic, there is something similar with different words refering to the same food in the case of cilantro and coriander, the herb. I think eggplant and aubergine as well.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    We need a plant biochemist to inform us the distinction between plants which are food (broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, spinach, potatoes, carrots, peas, beans, &c)

    and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c).

    Why are some varieties of squash (e.g. zucchini) food and some varieties are vomit?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @emil nikola richard


    ...and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c)
     
    I think with these ones opinion varies as to whether they are human food.

    Turnips are food in the British Isles, but in Belarus they are only for cattle, whereas pumpkins are eaten in Belarus but they are seen more as decoration in Britain. Kale is the basis for a very popular Portuguese soup, but is food for cattle in Britain. I don't mind eating all of them, Kale I like the least.

    Cilantro is in a lot of Indian curries (in its ground form as a spice) and in Mexican food?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  503. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    We tended to call then turnips, but discussions consistently developed about the differences between turnips and swede. I see that according to Wiki they are variant names for the same thing, apart from in the case of the distinctive white turnips.

    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic, there is something similar with different words refering to the same food in the case of cilantro and coriander, the herb. I think eggplant and aubergine as well.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic

    Within America, it is common word, though most (myself included) would be hard-pressed to identify exactly what it looks like as compared to true turnips. So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.

    I think it is acknowledged to be one of those words which somehow inherently sound funny. Perhaps, connected to the fact it comes from Swedish, which is also considered to sound comical.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word “gay” should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called “rutabagas.” I think it was a local radio personality.

    It was Tom Roswell (Jive) who I saw employ the word “swede” in this thread.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.
     
    This is interesting, just by appearance they don't look related, and then it's strange that the swede is what hybridisation between these two produced.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word “gay” should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called “rutabagas.” I think it was a local radio personality.
     
    This is a good idea, it would be good for memes. In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV (Swedish Wallander, Martin Beck, A Unit, The Bridge, those are the ones I remember watching), Swedish started to sound quite familiar, a bit like Dutch where you keep catching phrases and expressions that sound close to English. Danish otoh was always really hard to make out, more so than German. A few Danish dramas were appearing at the same time (e.g. The Killing, Borgen).

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them. Pumpkins were rare (maybe they weren't really on widespread sale at that point and were too expensive to use for Halloween purposes). I wonder if these British Halloween traditions survive much now?



    Some interesting new developments in the Southport murder case that sparked the riots a few months ago:

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/teen-accused-of-uk-girls-murder-in-southport-charged-with-terrorism-offence/ar-AA1t8Mef?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=3a10a661991e486c87f7f9e268f735af&ei=19

    Replies: @songbird

  504. @emil nikola richard
    I closed the tab at 38:55 on the fourth day and it was grueling to get that far. I took 7 or 8 runs at it and don't know the exact numbers. It is not interesting. I did read the whole transcript.

    Willie Brown's skank ho isn't going on because Joe the Bald wouldn't sign an agreement to play nice but Secret Hillbilly Secret Agent (who does not go by the name on his birth certificate--Anglin wrote a couple posts about it) is going on there before next Tuesday. Big whoop dee doo.

    It's easy to get along with Rogan if the stuff you won't talk about and the stuff he won't talk about are mostly the exact same stuff. Does Vance know anything about wrestling or boxing or Brazilian jew jit soo?

    Replies: @songbird

    Brazilian jew jit soo?

    I have been wondering about these guys that use it to take down thugs.

    Is it just because it is effective and what they are most familiar with? Or are they trying to protect themselves from insane progressives and charges of racism?

    I mean, like, if you are capable of something like muay thai – maybe it would be really effective to just do a high kick or a punch to someone’s head – some of these people present as being pretty aggressive or dangerous. But much more politically fraught than getting a hold on someone – which of course is also very fraught now too.

    [MORE]

  505. @songbird
    I had no idea that English people call rutabagas "swedes."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga

    Surely, that is more humorous than some of these other differing words, like bonnet (hood - relating to car) and lift (elevator.)

    Replies: @Coconuts, @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s the “neeps” in the Scottish Burns Night dish of haggis, neeps and ‘tatties’ (potatoes).

    Nice with butter and pepper, but not very nutritious. The Steckrübenwinter or Turnip Winter of 1916-17 Germany must have been painful indeed, especially if feeding small children.

    • Thanks: songbird
  506. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Too "screechy for your ears", eh? Try this one on for size, a little more refined? I'm listening to it right now. It could very well be the best of the bunch. :-)

    https://open.spotify.com/album/7J0OL2Ai73lJZu06coM0Oo?si=dbpS0I4hSLagHy3rFtkIow

    Replies: @QCIC

    Thanks, I know it well. I have three of the first four studio albums and the live album which I have listened to many times over the years. I think all these records were among my favorites at one time or another, including “Visions of the Emerald Beyond”. I think the violin and guitar playing together with a slight dissonance in Birds of Fire may be much for people who are not already committed fusion or electric guitar fans.

  507. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    The whole Ukraine failing military engagement is run by Washington. People do not forget the US biological labs in Ukraine intended for clandestine biological warfare against Russians - those are banned WMD. Yankees are playing sinister game that will badly backfire, they cannot defeat Sino-Russian alliance, that was actually strengthen by their brainless arrogance.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I’m still waiting for the next tidbit of information on the US bioweapons labs in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC

    Russia is expanding its actual bioweapon research. Remember that Russian accusations are usually confessions of some sort.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/interactive/2024/russia-biological-chemical-weapons-laboratory-expansion/



    A few months after Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, satellite imagery captured unusual activity at a restricted military research facility nestled among the birch forests northeast of Moscow.

    The Russian site, called Sergiev Posad-6, had been quiet for decades, but it had a notorious Cold War past: It had once been a major research center for biological weapons, with a history of experiments with the viruses that cause smallpox, Ebola and hemorrhagic fevers.

    Satellite imagery over the next two years — collected by commercial imaging firms Maxar and Planet Labs — shows construction vehicles renovating the old Soviet-era laboratory and breaking ground on 10 new buildings, totaling more than 250,000 square feet, with several of them bearing hallmarks of biological labs designed to handle extremely dangerous pathogens.

    U.S. officials and arms control experts, noting the secrecy surrounding the military facility, say they are worried about how Russia intends to use the new labs. “This is where they weaponized smallpox,” Duitsman said. “New technologies could supercharge the capabilities of a revived program.”

    Intelligence officials and biodefense experts say it is impossible to tell from satellite photos whether Russia plans to carry out offensive bioweapons research. A laboratory equipped to study the deadly Ebola virus for vaccine development may appear outwardly identical to one that conducts research on weaponizing the strain.

    Weber said he was troubled by Moscow’s decision to embed the new research capabilities within the Russian military in a highly secretive location notorious for its past role in bioweapons research.

    “The upgrades are consistent with this secure, top-secret military biological facility’s historic role in developing viral biological weapons,” said Weber, a senior fellow at the Council on Strategic Risks, a Washington think tank.

    The new campus has several hallmarks of a Russian high-security site that are consistent with the precautions taken at a BSL-4 facility, five experts told The Post. The checkpoints, road design, tree clearing, and nested fencing tightly control movement and allow for monitoring and surveillance, according to experts. “It’s called an onion layer of defense,” said William Goodhind, a military imagery analyst at Contested Ground. “The more layers there are, the less likely you are to have it defeated.”

    Replies: @QCIC

  508. @Mikel
    @A123


    Your favorite establishment leaders, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham
     
    Haven't you ever wondered why so few people reply to your posts? And, relatedly, haven't you considered shutting the f- up in order not to harm the candidate you claim to support?

    Launching moronic accusations to the people who provide solid arguments to vote for Trump, which you are unable to do, while leaving the people who support Kamala here unchallenged, is as dumb as the Haitian cats controversy and the government controlling the weather idiocy. If it wasn't for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever

    Indeed. If it wasn’t for the fact that Trump surrounds himself with a collection of weirdos such as the literal psychopath RFK Jr., smarmy Indian swindler Vivek who made a fortune off Americans with his failed Alzheimer’s medication, probable Russia asset Tulsi, and slippery tool of South African oligarchs Vance, I would have voted for him as I did in 2020.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP

    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala... hmm didn't we know that already?

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah. I'll pass on some of the RINOs on the ballot.

    Replies: @AP

    , @songbird
    @AP


    smarmy Indian swindler Vivek
     
    Don't you mean swarthy Indian swindler Vivek?

    probable Russia asset Tulsi
     
    Why is she a Russian asset, but Musk a Chinese?

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Who's the other South African oligarch other than Musk?

  509. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine's bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war. I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    The results of this Western proxy war are predictably tragic but many of the Ukies including AP and Hack went into this mess with eyes wide open.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine’s bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war.

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine’s leaders should ignore the people?

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson

    Zelensky brought members of his comedy troupe into government; he was very inexperienced yet over confident (wouldn't be human if he wasn't after his astounding success), and he underestimated Putin. American diplomats knew better, I don't think the US was happy about what Zelensky was doing once he got into power, which was quit a bit different to what he vaguely implied he was going to do while campaigning.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I don't know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets. They follow the orders of the puppet which come from the puppet masters. It is just like the USA, where Biden is obviously a puppet. But how far down the hierarchy do we have to go to find a non-puppet following orders and directives he may or may not agree with? This might be some members of the cabinet or maybe it is the next level down within government agencies. I don't know.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine’s leaders should ignore the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA. I am saying the Ukrainians should arrest their comprador leaders who have destroyed the country.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    I think Russia does not want another Western-sponsored war to flare up in Ukraine within a few years. I think the Kremlin does not want a post-SMO situation in Ukraine which weakens the existing power structure in Russia. These are two issues that strongly influence the post-SMO Ukrainian government. What comes after five or ten years depends on these factors.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  510. @QCIC
    @Derer

    I'm still waiting for the next tidbit of information on the US bioweapons labs in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

    Russia is expanding its actual bioweapon research. Remember that Russian accusations are usually confessions of some sort.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/interactive/2024/russia-biological-chemical-weapons-laboratory-expansion/

    [MORE]

    A few months after Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, satellite imagery captured unusual activity at a restricted military research facility nestled among the birch forests northeast of Moscow.

    The Russian site, called Sergiev Posad-6, had been quiet for decades, but it had a notorious Cold War past: It had once been a major research center for biological weapons, with a history of experiments with the viruses that cause smallpox, Ebola and hemorrhagic fevers.

    Satellite imagery over the next two years — collected by commercial imaging firms Maxar and Planet Labs — shows construction vehicles renovating the old Soviet-era laboratory and breaking ground on 10 new buildings, totaling more than 250,000 square feet, with several of them bearing hallmarks of biological labs designed to handle extremely dangerous pathogens.

    U.S. officials and arms control experts, noting the secrecy surrounding the military facility, say they are worried about how Russia intends to use the new labs. “This is where they weaponized smallpox,” Duitsman said. “New technologies could supercharge the capabilities of a revived program.”

    Intelligence officials and biodefense experts say it is impossible to tell from satellite photos whether Russia plans to carry out offensive bioweapons research. A laboratory equipped to study the deadly Ebola virus for vaccine development may appear outwardly identical to one that conducts research on weaponizing the strain.

    Weber said he was troubled by Moscow’s decision to embed the new research capabilities within the Russian military in a highly secretive location notorious for its past role in bioweapons research.

    “The upgrades are consistent with this secure, top-secret military biological facility’s historic role in developing viral biological weapons,” said Weber, a senior fellow at the Council on Strategic Risks, a Washington think tank.

    The new campus has several hallmarks of a Russian high-security site that are consistent with the precautions taken at a BSL-4 facility, five experts told The Post. The checkpoints, road design, tree clearing, and nested fencing tightly control movement and allow for monitoring and surveillance, according to experts. “It’s called an onion layer of defense,” said William Goodhind, a military imagery analyst at Contested Ground. “The more layers there are, the less likely you are to have it defeated.”

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine.

    The article would have been a bit more balanced and credible with a few comments to give some context. Here are a few suggestions you can pass on to the Washington Post.

    - Some experts are concerned that the new BSL-4 laboratory facilities under construction near Moscow indicate the Russians are responding to illegal US and Western "gain of function experiments" which were openly acknowledged during the COVID scare. While gain of function is a neutral sounding term used by the US government and pharma companies it is generally seen as a euphemism for "dangerous and illegal biological weapons research."

    - It has been known for some time prior to 2022 that the USA was still funding bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine. These ex-Soviet labs were originally the focus of clean up and security efforts under the Nunn-Lugar act which supplied funds and resources to secure nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and facilities in the former Soviet Union. Since the USSR collapsed in 1991 it was widely believed that US funded work at Ukrainian labs in 2014 (after 23 years) is probably offensive in nature and directed at Russia. This is not inconsistent with the well known fact that the US government funded biowarfare work in foreign countries which is illegal within the USA. [Off the record some experts are shocked that anyone in Ukraine could possibly be foolish enough to allow such work to occur in their country, much less participate in the dangerous research.]

    - Many observers were taken by surprise in 2023 when Victoria Nuland appeared to tacitly acknowledge while speaking under oath to Congress that the USA is actively funding bioweapons research in Ukraine at the former Soviet labs. The work had been discussed in publicly available DOD briefing materials in previous years.

    - Peace activists around the world are horrified by aggressive Western actions against post-Soviet Russia during the past 25 years, including the proxy war against Russia which started as a result of a very public Western-sponsored coup in Ukraine. After serious pressure by the West, Russia gradually updated and upgraded her nuclear weapons capabilities to preserve a stable balance of power (mutually assured destruction or MAD) after the West unilaterally discarded the nuclear disarmament framework leading to the Russian response. Experts are also concerned that new Russian biohazard laboratory facilities are a similar response in the bioweapons arena made as a reaction to very aggressive Western bioweaponry developments.

    Replies: @AP

  511. Am actually open to the idea that this Hindu cow dung fight festival promotes health.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidakala_War

  512. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine’s bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war.

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine's leaders should ignore the people?

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

    Zelensky brought members of his comedy troupe into government; he was very inexperienced yet over confident (wouldn’t be human if he wasn’t after his astounding success), and he underestimated Putin. American diplomats knew better, I don’t think the US was happy about what Zelensky was doing once he got into power, which was quit a bit different to what he vaguely implied he was going to do while campaigning.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Sean

    Zelensky brought members of his comedy troupe into government; he was very inexperienced yet over confident (wouldn’t be human if he wasn’t after his astounding success), and he underestimated Putin.

    I haven't read anything about him bringing in fellow comedians but he was definitely naive about Putin.

    The US/UK warned him that an invasion was imminent and he did not put the military on full alert. Putin's Belarus plan was actually quite lazy and would have been easily disrupted by blowing the bridge. Belarus and Ukraine are separated by swampland that can be utilized defensively in a war. Well it doesn't work if you let the enemy storm across a single bridge.

    Zelensky is sometimes called a puppet of the US but that is obviously not the case as he defied the Western experts prior to the invasion. He went on television to ask Putin for a diplomatic solution while the US told him that he needed to prepare for war. Putin actually cut diplomatic lines prior to the invasion. He also didn't try to hide the fact that they were collecting blood. Fortunately the Ukrainian military had been planning for the invasion and were still able to push them out of Kiev. Would have been much easier though if they blew the bridge and then set artillery on all highways coming from Russia. They could have clogged the invasion at multiple choke points. Putin is not a war strategist and trickled in his military like a parade. Hence the 40 mile column.

  513. @AP
    @QCIC

    Russia is expanding its actual bioweapon research. Remember that Russian accusations are usually confessions of some sort.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/interactive/2024/russia-biological-chemical-weapons-laboratory-expansion/



    A few months after Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, satellite imagery captured unusual activity at a restricted military research facility nestled among the birch forests northeast of Moscow.

    The Russian site, called Sergiev Posad-6, had been quiet for decades, but it had a notorious Cold War past: It had once been a major research center for biological weapons, with a history of experiments with the viruses that cause smallpox, Ebola and hemorrhagic fevers.

    Satellite imagery over the next two years — collected by commercial imaging firms Maxar and Planet Labs — shows construction vehicles renovating the old Soviet-era laboratory and breaking ground on 10 new buildings, totaling more than 250,000 square feet, with several of them bearing hallmarks of biological labs designed to handle extremely dangerous pathogens.

    U.S. officials and arms control experts, noting the secrecy surrounding the military facility, say they are worried about how Russia intends to use the new labs. “This is where they weaponized smallpox,” Duitsman said. “New technologies could supercharge the capabilities of a revived program.”

    Intelligence officials and biodefense experts say it is impossible to tell from satellite photos whether Russia plans to carry out offensive bioweapons research. A laboratory equipped to study the deadly Ebola virus for vaccine development may appear outwardly identical to one that conducts research on weaponizing the strain.

    Weber said he was troubled by Moscow’s decision to embed the new research capabilities within the Russian military in a highly secretive location notorious for its past role in bioweapons research.

    “The upgrades are consistent with this secure, top-secret military biological facility’s historic role in developing viral biological weapons,” said Weber, a senior fellow at the Council on Strategic Risks, a Washington think tank.

    The new campus has several hallmarks of a Russian high-security site that are consistent with the precautions taken at a BSL-4 facility, five experts told The Post. The checkpoints, road design, tree clearing, and nested fencing tightly control movement and allow for monitoring and surveillance, according to experts. “It’s called an onion layer of defense,” said William Goodhind, a military imagery analyst at Contested Ground. “The more layers there are, the less likely you are to have it defeated.”

    Replies: @QCIC

    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine.

    The article would have been a bit more balanced and credible with a few comments to give some context. Here are a few suggestions you can pass on to the Washington Post.

    – Some experts are concerned that the new BSL-4 laboratory facilities under construction near Moscow indicate the Russians are responding to illegal US and Western “gain of function experiments” which were openly acknowledged during the COVID scare. While gain of function is a neutral sounding term used by the US government and pharma companies it is generally seen as a euphemism for “dangerous and illegal biological weapons research.”

    – It has been known for some time prior to 2022 that the USA was still funding bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine. These ex-Soviet labs were originally the focus of clean up and security efforts under the Nunn-Lugar act which supplied funds and resources to secure nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and facilities in the former Soviet Union. Since the USSR collapsed in 1991 it was widely believed that US funded work at Ukrainian labs in 2014 (after 23 years) is probably offensive in nature and directed at Russia. This is not inconsistent with the well known fact that the US government funded biowarfare work in foreign countries which is illegal within the USA. [Off the record some experts are shocked that anyone in Ukraine could possibly be foolish enough to allow such work to occur in their country, much less participate in the dangerous research.]

    – Many observers were taken by surprise in 2023 when Victoria Nuland appeared to tacitly acknowledge while speaking under oath to Congress that the USA is actively funding bioweapons research in Ukraine at the former Soviet labs. The work had been discussed in publicly available DOD briefing materials in previous years.

    – Peace activists around the world are horrified by aggressive Western actions against post-Soviet Russia during the past 25 years, including the proxy war against Russia which started as a result of a very public Western-sponsored coup in Ukraine. After serious pressure by the West, Russia gradually updated and upgraded her nuclear weapons capabilities to preserve a stable balance of power (mutually assured destruction or MAD) after the West unilaterally discarded the nuclear disarmament framework leading to the Russian response. Experts are also concerned that new Russian biohazard laboratory facilities are a similar response in the bioweapons arena made as a reaction to very aggressive Western bioweaponry developments.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine
     
    There you go again. Up has to be down and down has to be up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

  514. @AP
    @Mikel


    If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever
     
    Indeed. If it wasn't for the fact that Trump surrounds himself with a collection of weirdos such as the literal psychopath RFK Jr., smarmy Indian swindler Vivek who made a fortune off Americans with his failed Alzheimer's medication, probable Russia asset Tulsi, and slippery tool of South African oligarchs Vance, I would have voted for him as I did in 2020.

    Replies: @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala… hmm didn’t we know that already?

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah. I’ll pass on some of the RINOs on the ballot.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala
     
    Well, it just happens that those politicians who do not support Ukraine happen to be weirdos, grifters and/or psychopaths like RFK jr, Vivek, Vance, etc. Funny, isn’t it. It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if a person is inadequate in some way.

    Even if RFK jr did support Ukraine, he would still be a psychopath. Vivek would still be a grifter who ripped off Americans. Vance a cynical arch-opportunist (the most normal of the bunch, actually - Kamala is similar though not as smart).

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah
     
    She had a checkered past which actually matches her current behavior.

    Replies: @Mikel

  515. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    No, try to keep up.

    Ukraine’s bought and paid for leaders led the country into a devastating un-winnable war.

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I hope the people will eventually figure this out and change course with new leaders.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine's leaders should ignore the people?

    It is not clear that Russia wants to rule Ukraine. She wants to prevent the West from turning it into a powerful militarized enemy directly on the border.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I don’t know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets. They follow the orders of the puppet which come from the puppet masters. It is just like the USA, where Biden is obviously a puppet. But how far down the hierarchy do we have to go to find a non-puppet following orders and directives he may or may not agree with? This might be some members of the cabinet or maybe it is the next level down within government agencies. I don’t know.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine’s leaders should ignore the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA. I am saying the Ukrainians should arrest their comprador leaders who have destroyed the country.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    I think Russia does not want another Western-sponsored war to flare up in Ukraine within a few years. I think the Kremlin does not want a post-SMO situation in Ukraine which weakens the existing power structure in Russia. These are two issues that strongly influence the post-SMO Ukrainian government. What comes after five or ten years depends on these factors.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets.

    How exactly is he a puppet if he is following the will of the people? Isn't that his job? To represent the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA.

    So you don't believe that a majority of Ukrainians support the war?

    Why is that so hard to believe when pro-Russian parties did poorly in the elections? You do acknowledge that most Ukrainians do not want to be ruled by Russia?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    You are saying that Putin will allow the Ukrainians to eventually pick their leaders? When will the Chechens get to pick their leaders?

    You clearly support the complete subjugation of the Ukrainian people which would require taking Kiev.

    How would that be possible given that Russia still hasn't taken Kharkiv? Do you expect this war to go on for years? Russian bloggers don't seem as confident in the ability of the Russian military. Putin bringing in North Koreans has created a lot of doubt. Larry and Ritter seem a bit edgy after the announcement. Larry in fact called it a hoax and laughed about it with the gay judge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2brCAtQT_A

    Replies: @QCIC

  516. @AP
    @Mikel


    If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever
     
    Indeed. If it wasn't for the fact that Trump surrounds himself with a collection of weirdos such as the literal psychopath RFK Jr., smarmy Indian swindler Vivek who made a fortune off Americans with his failed Alzheimer's medication, probable Russia asset Tulsi, and slippery tool of South African oligarchs Vance, I would have voted for him as I did in 2020.

    Replies: @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    smarmy Indian swindler Vivek

    Don’t you mean swarthy Indian swindler Vivek?

    probable Russia asset Tulsi

    Why is she a Russian asset, but Musk a Chinese?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird



    probable Russia asset Tulsi

    Why is she a Russian asset
     
    Because she is against foreign wars. I thought it was well known by now that nobody can possibly hold that position not having been paid by Moscow. Don't you watch CNN? ;-]

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

  517. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    You described people just below Zelensky. Which people would that be?

    I don't know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets. They follow the orders of the puppet which come from the puppet masters. It is just like the USA, where Biden is obviously a puppet. But how far down the hierarchy do we have to go to find a non-puppet following orders and directives he may or may not agree with? This might be some members of the cabinet or maybe it is the next level down within government agencies. I don't know.

    Polls show that people support the war. You are saying Ukraine’s leaders should ignore the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA. I am saying the Ukrainians should arrest their comprador leaders who have destroyed the country.

    So you believe that Putin would let Ukrainians pick their own leaders after occupying them?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    I think Russia does not want another Western-sponsored war to flare up in Ukraine within a few years. I think the Kremlin does not want a post-SMO situation in Ukraine which weakens the existing power structure in Russia. These are two issues that strongly influence the post-SMO Ukrainian government. What comes after five or ten years depends on these factors.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I don’t know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets.

    How exactly is he a puppet if he is following the will of the people? Isn’t that his job? To represent the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA.

    So you don’t believe that a majority of Ukrainians support the war?

    Why is that so hard to believe when pro-Russian parties did poorly in the elections? You do acknowledge that most Ukrainians do not want to be ruled by Russia?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    You are saying that Putin will allow the Ukrainians to eventually pick their leaders? When will the Chechens get to pick their leaders?

    You clearly support the complete subjugation of the Ukrainian people which would require taking Kiev.

    How would that be possible given that Russia still hasn’t taken Kharkiv? Do you expect this war to go on for years? Russian bloggers don’t seem as confident in the ability of the Russian military. Putin bringing in North Koreans has created a lot of doubt. Larry and Ritter seem a bit edgy after the announcement. Larry in fact called it a hoax and laughed about it with the gay judge.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't know if a majority of Ukrainians support the war, but I look at it differently anyway. I don't think Ukraine would have gotten into this war with Russia without extensive external manipulation of the situation. I doubt they are that crazy. So I think you are making a smoke screen pretending some organic or democratic process led us to where we are now.

    The West made a number of serious war like moves against Russia which led to this mess. These include expansion of NATO, USA dropping the ABM treaty, the USA putting missile bases in Eastern Europe and other crucial steps; these are all related to the current war. The fact that the CIA and the state department did the coup, while other government organizations led the charge on things like missile bases does not change the fact that it was a concerted Western effort over a very long time to start a proxy war with Russia. Since the entire situation is completely woven through with propaganda I don't think your questions make much sense.

    I am against nuclear war. I do not support the subjugation of the Ukrainian people, but they allowed the West to get them into a terrible mess. Getting past this will take a long time.

    I think Russia has three choices for Kharkov. They are following the course of grinding down the AFU while avoiding high civilian casualties (best choice). Kharkov is not really involved as far as I know. I think they are willing to do this until Ukrainians have their own regime change and decide to make peace with Russia and eject all Western influence. Russia could also bomb Kharkov down to the ground destroying all AFU assets and equipment there. I think they can do this now and at any time since the beginning of the SMO. They do not want to do this mainly because they don't want to kill the civilians but also because it plays into Western hands. The people behind this mess would be happy to see Kharkov destroyed, They don't care about Ukrainians or their country. The third option would be to soften up the city by destroying all the infrastructure and military sites without bombing everything to the ground. Maybe the AFU would surrender or maybe Russia would lose 50,000 men cleaning them out. I doubt the Russian people would accept this high loss, plus it leaves the Army weaker. If Russia decides to defeat the AFU forces hunkered down in a large city I doubt it will be Kiev or Kharkov.

    Kharkov was a center of Soviet high technology. If the Russians believe nuclear weapons are being created there the stakes are higher.

    From the Russian perspective the best target might be one that has a large concentration of AFU forces but is minimally important to the West and less historically important to Russia. Sadly, this might be one of the larger cities in the middle of the country.

    As far as the DPRK military goes, I think they are training and fighting with Russia. This is natural and I expected it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  518. @QCIC
    @AP

    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine.

    The article would have been a bit more balanced and credible with a few comments to give some context. Here are a few suggestions you can pass on to the Washington Post.

    - Some experts are concerned that the new BSL-4 laboratory facilities under construction near Moscow indicate the Russians are responding to illegal US and Western "gain of function experiments" which were openly acknowledged during the COVID scare. While gain of function is a neutral sounding term used by the US government and pharma companies it is generally seen as a euphemism for "dangerous and illegal biological weapons research."

    - It has been known for some time prior to 2022 that the USA was still funding bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine. These ex-Soviet labs were originally the focus of clean up and security efforts under the Nunn-Lugar act which supplied funds and resources to secure nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and facilities in the former Soviet Union. Since the USSR collapsed in 1991 it was widely believed that US funded work at Ukrainian labs in 2014 (after 23 years) is probably offensive in nature and directed at Russia. This is not inconsistent with the well known fact that the US government funded biowarfare work in foreign countries which is illegal within the USA. [Off the record some experts are shocked that anyone in Ukraine could possibly be foolish enough to allow such work to occur in their country, much less participate in the dangerous research.]

    - Many observers were taken by surprise in 2023 when Victoria Nuland appeared to tacitly acknowledge while speaking under oath to Congress that the USA is actively funding bioweapons research in Ukraine at the former Soviet labs. The work had been discussed in publicly available DOD briefing materials in previous years.

    - Peace activists around the world are horrified by aggressive Western actions against post-Soviet Russia during the past 25 years, including the proxy war against Russia which started as a result of a very public Western-sponsored coup in Ukraine. After serious pressure by the West, Russia gradually updated and upgraded her nuclear weapons capabilities to preserve a stable balance of power (mutually assured destruction or MAD) after the West unilaterally discarded the nuclear disarmament framework leading to the Russian response. Experts are also concerned that new Russian biohazard laboratory facilities are a similar response in the bioweapons arena made as a reaction to very aggressive Western bioweaponry developments.

    Replies: @AP

    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine

    There you go again. Up has to be down and down has to be up.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Disagree: Derer
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I am attempting to pop your fantasy bubbles. We know both sides have always had WMDs of all types. The US-funding for bioweapons labs in Ukraine was highly provocative at a minimum. You can accept this and simply try to make excuses. I think the overall pattern of the Western proxy war using their Ukrainian pawn against Russia supports the disturbing idea that the US was in fact funding offensive bioweapons development. I have no idea of what type of organisms or how complete the work was.

    While I hated communism I don't hate the Russians as you seem to. I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off. Surprise surprise, this didn't work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow, @sudden death

    , @Derer
    @AP

    Expecting Washington Post to give you some balanced unbiased position on Russia is really naive. Do you know that "deep throat" never existed and was concocted by dishonest Washington Post journalists to sell more paper. The anti-Russian position is analogous to their anti-Nixon campaign.

  519. @Sean
    @John Johnson

    Zelensky brought members of his comedy troupe into government; he was very inexperienced yet over confident (wouldn't be human if he wasn't after his astounding success), and he underestimated Putin. American diplomats knew better, I don't think the US was happy about what Zelensky was doing once he got into power, which was quit a bit different to what he vaguely implied he was going to do while campaigning.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Zelensky brought members of his comedy troupe into government; he was very inexperienced yet over confident (wouldn’t be human if he wasn’t after his astounding success), and he underestimated Putin.

    I haven’t read anything about him bringing in fellow comedians but he was definitely naive about Putin.

    The US/UK warned him that an invasion was imminent and he did not put the military on full alert. Putin’s Belarus plan was actually quite lazy and would have been easily disrupted by blowing the bridge. Belarus and Ukraine are separated by swampland that can be utilized defensively in a war. Well it doesn’t work if you let the enemy storm across a single bridge.

    Zelensky is sometimes called a puppet of the US but that is obviously not the case as he defied the Western experts prior to the invasion. He went on television to ask Putin for a diplomatic solution while the US told him that he needed to prepare for war. Putin actually cut diplomatic lines prior to the invasion. He also didn’t try to hide the fact that they were collecting blood. Fortunately the Ukrainian military had been planning for the invasion and were still able to push them out of Kiev. Would have been much easier though if they blew the bridge and then set artillery on all highways coming from Russia. They could have clogged the invasion at multiple choke points. Putin is not a war strategist and trickled in his military like a parade. Hence the 40 mile column.

  520. @Mikel
    @AP

    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala... hmm didn't we know that already?

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah. I'll pass on some of the RINOs on the ballot.

    Replies: @AP

    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala

    Well, it just happens that those politicians who do not support Ukraine happen to be weirdos, grifters and/or psychopaths like RFK jr, Vivek, Vance, etc. Funny, isn’t it. It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if a person is inadequate in some way.

    Even if RFK jr did support Ukraine, he would still be a psychopath. Vivek would still be a grifter who ripped off Americans. Vance a cynical arch-opportunist (the most normal of the bunch, actually – Kamala is similar though not as smart).

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah

    She had a checkered past which actually matches her current behavior.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if
     
    ... you like them or not. That's all there is to it.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of? Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts?

    Replies: @AP

  521. @AP
    @Mikel


    IOW, if Trump had surrounded himself with people more supportive of Ukraine, you would have voted for him but since some of the people close to him do not support Ukraine enough, you are voting for Kamala
     
    Well, it just happens that those politicians who do not support Ukraine happen to be weirdos, grifters and/or psychopaths like RFK jr, Vivek, Vance, etc. Funny, isn’t it. It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if a person is inadequate in some way.

    Even if RFK jr did support Ukraine, he would still be a psychopath. Vivek would still be a grifter who ripped off Americans. Vance a cynical arch-opportunist (the most normal of the bunch, actually - Kamala is similar though not as smart).

    Btw, I wish we had candidates like Ukrainian-American Spartz for Congress in Utah
     
    She had a checkered past which actually matches her current behavior.

    Replies: @Mikel

    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if

    … you like them or not. That’s all there is to it.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of? Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if

    … you like them or not
     
    No, it happens to be that they are…flawed.

    You really think RFK is normal, and not a sex-crazed psychopath?

    You don’t think Vivek is a slimy salesman?

    What about Boebert? Gaetz? Greene? Etc.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of
     
    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts
     
    I haven’t follow other conflicts as closely but there is a very strong correlation between not supporting Ukraine after it was invaded, and indecency. Strong enough that there is something to it. It’s like not supporting a friendly pro -American country that has been brutally invades by a US rival (at best) or enemy (at worst) is a position that mostly attracts bad people.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

  522. @songbird
    @AP


    smarmy Indian swindler Vivek
     
    Don't you mean swarthy Indian swindler Vivek?

    probable Russia asset Tulsi
     
    Why is she a Russian asset, but Musk a Chinese?

    Replies: @Mikel

    probable Russia asset Tulsi

    Why is she a Russian asset

    Because she is against foreign wars. I thought it was well known by now that nobody can possibly hold that position not having been paid by Moscow. Don’t you watch CNN? ;-]

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mikel

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US. But that the Jamaican-Indian Harris is the most loyal of all.

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP's stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can't be about territoriality.

    And yet, if he is for Galicia specifically, it is hard to understand why he wouldn't embrace the candidate who seems more inclined to support a peace deal or a freeze in the conflict (I.e. Trump.)

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly. It is not obvious to me that he has thought through a realistic end to the conflict, and doesn't want unconditional US support for a continuous war, until Russia surrenders, which seems quite unlikely.

    Replies: @AP, @Matra, @Mikel

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    Why is she a Russian asset

    Because she is against foreign wars.
     
    Her constant repetition of Russian propaganda preceded the war and goes beyond merely "not supporting wars."

    But maybe there is something else there. There exist certain women who love killers and send them letter to prison. Tulsi seems to have a thing for murderous enemies of the USA. Here she is with Assad:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

    She got some money out of it:

    Tulsi's biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/03/14/checks--imbalances-gabbards-pro-putin-patron-russian-oligarch-indicted/?sh=6187092b372a



    The largest individual donor to former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s (D-Hawaii) PAC in 2021 is an apologist for Vladimir Putin who runs a nonprofit that aims to foster cooperation between the U.S. and Russia. Gabbard has long taken pro-Russian positions, most recently on Sunday when she gave credence to a baseless Russian-supported conspiracy about U.S. involvement in biological-weapons laboratories in Ukraine.

    In 1983, towards the end of the Cold War, Sharon Tennison, an American activist, founded the Center for Citizen Initiatives. Its mission is to “begin a series of citizen-to-citizen initiatives and exchanges, buttressed by official media PR and social-media networks across America and across Russia,” according to its website. During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs. On a visit to Russia in 2016, the Federal Security Service detained Tennison for a few hours on suspicions of being a foreign agent, according to the Christian Science Monitor.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  523. @Mikel
    @AP


    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if
     
    ... you like them or not. That's all there is to it.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of? Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts?

    Replies: @AP

    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if

    … you like them or not

    No, it happens to be that they are…flawed.

    You really think RFK is normal, and not a sex-crazed psychopath?

    You don’t think Vivek is a slimy salesman?

    What about Boebert? Gaetz? Greene? Etc.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of

    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts

    I haven’t follow other conflicts as closely but there is a very strong correlation between not supporting Ukraine after it was invaded, and indecency. Strong enough that there is something to it. It’s like not supporting a friendly pro -American country that has been brutally invades by a US rival (at best) or enemy (at worst) is a position that mostly attracts bad people.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

     

    What about Philippe Lemoine, whose "brilliant" idea was to let Ukraine fall to Russia in order to ensure that Russia remains cooperative with the West on things like arms control and nuclear non-proliferation and avoids ending up entirely in China's orbit and then funding an aggressive anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine?
    , @Mikel
    @AP


    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.
    ...
    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.
     
    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That's what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being "Putin agents". Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.
     
    Imagine the horror. If that doesn't prove treason, what does?

    I don't share Matra's feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.
     
    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123's dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It's not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one's character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump's populist and showman tendencies are by no means as "Latin American" as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.
     
    You shouldn't take my reminders that you're voting for Kamala too personally. I don't care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I'm sure we've discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don't you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    Replies: @Matra, @A123, @AP, @Mikhail

  524. @Mikel
    @songbird



    probable Russia asset Tulsi

    Why is she a Russian asset
     
    Because she is against foreign wars. I thought it was well known by now that nobody can possibly hold that position not having been paid by Moscow. Don't you watch CNN? ;-]

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US. But that the Jamaican-Indian Harris is the most loyal of all.

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can’t be about territoriality.

    And yet, if he is for Galicia specifically, it is hard to understand why he wouldn’t embrace the candidate who seems more inclined to support a peace deal or a freeze in the conflict (I.e. Trump.)

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly. It is not obvious to me that he has thought through a realistic end to the conflict, and doesn’t want unconditional US support for a continuous war, until Russia surrenders, which seems quite unlikely.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US
     
    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?

    He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine
     
    Where did I claim that?

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly.
     
    End the war ASAP under conditions in which Ukraine doesn't undergo a brutal occupation, and in which there almost certainly will be no future war (which will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ). I personally don't think it would be worth it to lose another 100,000 men to retake the Crimean corridor or to restore the 1991 border. I would be willing to trade land for peace and security. but not for peace without security. Most Ukrainians disagree with me about that (they don't want to give up territory), and since Ukraine is a democracy their wishes will drive policy. Russia also opposes this - they might agree to a ceasefire but they demand that Ukraine be demilitarized and isolated from any alliances. Such helplessness will only invite another invasion in a few years after Russia rebuilds. So until Russia comes to its senses and gives up on the idea of conquering Ukraine I support helping Ukraine to keep Russia at bay.

    Hopefully that is clear?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    , @Matra
    @songbird

    I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying

    Maybe AP just likes long tedious arguments on the internet. For some people it's a hobby.

    , @Mikel
    @songbird


    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can’t be about territoriality.
     
    I think I understand his position. It's a common one among nationalists, actually: territory is more important than the people inhabiting it.

    Even small nationalisms, like the Basque one, suffer from this vice. The province of Navarre is the direct inheritor of the kingdom of Navarre, the only political entity to ever encompass Basque speakers on both sides of the Pyrenees. Once this kingdom was conquered by Castille in the 16th century, most of its territory got Romanized over time and a majority of its inhabitants in the south and center are hostile to Basque nationalism but, given the symbolic value of the old kingdom, Basque nationalists rejected the Spanish offer in the 70s of dividing the province. The result has been two generations of Northern Navarrese, who are among the most passionate supporters of Basque independence, being cut off from the Basque Autonomous Community.

    Perhaps the attitude of Irish nationalists towards Ulster is similar in considering the territory of the island more important than the wishes of part of its inhabitants in the North, although my impression from 15 years ago is that most Irish didn't care much about Ulster anymore.

    AP's position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can't hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects, but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them. What I'm not sure he realizes is how much his position explains what has happened in Ukraine since its independence. Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them (I even saw a BBC documentary showing this mutual hostility once) and preferred to have close ties to the Russians, holding back EU accession.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all? For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower for whatever is going on between Galicians and Russified Ukrainians is as insane as risking that kind of war for whatever the Navarrese of the North and the Navarrese of the South feel about each other. Totally nuts (and I say this as someone who has ancestors in both regions).

    Replies: @AP

  525. @AP
    @Mikel


    If it wasn’t for people like you that no sane person wants to be associated with, there would be no question of a Republican landslide victory against the weakest duplet (Biden-Kamala) presented by the Democrats ever
     
    Indeed. If it wasn't for the fact that Trump surrounds himself with a collection of weirdos such as the literal psychopath RFK Jr., smarmy Indian swindler Vivek who made a fortune off Americans with his failed Alzheimer's medication, probable Russia asset Tulsi, and slippery tool of South African oligarchs Vance, I would have voted for him as I did in 2020.

    Replies: @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Who’s the other South African oligarch other than Musk?

  526. @AP
    @Mikel


    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if

    … you like them or not
     
    No, it happens to be that they are…flawed.

    You really think RFK is normal, and not a sex-crazed psychopath?

    You don’t think Vivek is a slimy salesman?

    What about Boebert? Gaetz? Greene? Etc.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of
     
    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts
     
    I haven’t follow other conflicts as closely but there is a very strong correlation between not supporting Ukraine after it was invaded, and indecency. Strong enough that there is something to it. It’s like not supporting a friendly pro -American country that has been brutally invades by a US rival (at best) or enemy (at worst) is a position that mostly attracts bad people.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    What about Philippe Lemoine, whose “brilliant” idea was to let Ukraine fall to Russia in order to ensure that Russia remains cooperative with the West on things like arms control and nuclear non-proliferation and avoids ending up entirely in China’s orbit and then funding an aggressive anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine?

  527. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Does it strike you that Russia’s 1917 defeatism was likewise the result of Russian peasant morality? Specifically, Russian peasants’ belief that sacrificing their lives by the millions for the sake of Galicia or Constantinople wasn’t worth it?
     
    Yes, the attitude of take what you can get for yourself and immediate family and screwing the government or others as much as possible contributed to that. Notably, the elite did not share this attitude. One reason why the White emigres tended to be poor when they escaped Weat is that because of their sense of patriotism and duty they had sold most of their foreign assets in 1914. Contrast that with the new elites raised under the Soviets, with their Russian-Soviet peasant mortality, who steal locally and transfer abroad.

    This Russian peasant morality hampers Russia’s war efforts. Most of the money earmarked for military reform and modernization ended up getting stolen and is sitting in the foreign accounts of defence ministry officials. Not only from before the war started - Kursk ended up having shoddy defences. (Ukraine is not free of such problems either)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    One reason why the White emigres tended to be poor when they escaped West is that because of their sense of patriotism and duty they had sold most of their foreign assets in 1914.

    To be fair, though, they also didn’t expect Russia to transform itself into a monster-state as a result of WWI.

    And they were blinded in another way. Specifically the idea that they had to fight for Serbia in order to defend Russia’s honor. And to keep on fighting even when it was clear that the war was going to be a long one.

  528. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The ultimate rat rod!

    It will be interesting to see what new Russian tanks come out of this. Updated T80/T90, T14 or something else, smaller and more agile? Maybe they will give up the 125 mm direct fire cannon and go for a more lethal missile of some sort. Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    They’ll probably stick a drunk Russian in a T-34 and use it for crude artillery or mine detecting the hard way.

    Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    Yea it’s a waste of gas.

    Getting them into Ukraine will be a feat in itself. The engine is from WW2 and they aren’t known to be reliable. I assume they will be used in “one and done” battles. Or maybe just drop them off with trucks in defensive positions.

    The Ukrainians can probably take one out with a small fpv drone.

    You’re better off with all around armor and wheels.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Of course the Russians may be gearing up for pacification efforts after a Ukrainian surrender is announced. They don't need T90s for that, but hundreds of T34s might come in handy.

  529. @Anal Prolapse
    @Jew Jewson
    @Mr. -ACK

    Why are you not invading Russia like these Nigger Anus Tonguing Organization zogbots?

    You are not just some cowardly keyboard shills, are you?

  530. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t know the names of these people in the USA, much less in Ukraine. I think Zelensky is a total puppet paid to do a job. At some point below him there are real bureaucrats, politicians, leaders and managers who are not puppets.

    How exactly is he a puppet if he is following the will of the people? Isn't that his job? To represent the people?

    I wish you were kidding. I trust poll results from Ukraine even less than those from the USA.

    So you don't believe that a majority of Ukrainians support the war?

    Why is that so hard to believe when pro-Russian parties did poorly in the elections? You do acknowledge that most Ukrainians do not want to be ruled by Russia?

    I expect there will be a transition government in Kiev which is hand picked by the Kremlin; this is normal and expected by everyone.

    You are saying that Putin will allow the Ukrainians to eventually pick their leaders? When will the Chechens get to pick their leaders?

    You clearly support the complete subjugation of the Ukrainian people which would require taking Kiev.

    How would that be possible given that Russia still hasn't taken Kharkiv? Do you expect this war to go on for years? Russian bloggers don't seem as confident in the ability of the Russian military. Putin bringing in North Koreans has created a lot of doubt. Larry and Ritter seem a bit edgy after the announcement. Larry in fact called it a hoax and laughed about it with the gay judge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2brCAtQT_A

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t know if a majority of Ukrainians support the war, but I look at it differently anyway. I don’t think Ukraine would have gotten into this war with Russia without extensive external manipulation of the situation. I doubt they are that crazy. So I think you are making a smoke screen pretending some organic or democratic process led us to where we are now.

    The West made a number of serious war like moves against Russia which led to this mess. These include expansion of NATO, USA dropping the ABM treaty, the USA putting missile bases in Eastern Europe and other crucial steps; these are all related to the current war. The fact that the CIA and the state department did the coup, while other government organizations led the charge on things like missile bases does not change the fact that it was a concerted Western effort over a very long time to start a proxy war with Russia. Since the entire situation is completely woven through with propaganda I don’t think your questions make much sense.

    I am against nuclear war. I do not support the subjugation of the Ukrainian people, but they allowed the West to get them into a terrible mess. Getting past this will take a long time.

    I think Russia has three choices for Kharkov. They are following the course of grinding down the AFU while avoiding high civilian casualties (best choice). Kharkov is not really involved as far as I know. I think they are willing to do this until Ukrainians have their own regime change and decide to make peace with Russia and eject all Western influence. Russia could also bomb Kharkov down to the ground destroying all AFU assets and equipment there. I think they can do this now and at any time since the beginning of the SMO. They do not want to do this mainly because they don’t want to kill the civilians but also because it plays into Western hands. The people behind this mess would be happy to see Kharkov destroyed, They don’t care about Ukrainians or their country. The third option would be to soften up the city by destroying all the infrastructure and military sites without bombing everything to the ground. Maybe the AFU would surrender or maybe Russia would lose 50,000 men cleaning them out. I doubt the Russian people would accept this high loss, plus it leaves the Army weaker. If Russia decides to defeat the AFU forces hunkered down in a large city I doubt it will be Kiev or Kharkov.

    Kharkov was a center of Soviet high technology. If the Russians believe nuclear weapons are being created there the stakes are higher.

    From the Russian perspective the best target might be one that has a large concentration of AFU forces but is minimally important to the West and less historically important to Russia. Sadly, this might be one of the larger cities in the middle of the country.

    As far as the DPRK military goes, I think they are training and fighting with Russia. This is natural and I expected it.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t know if a majority of Ukrainians support the war, but I look at it differently anyway.

    Well the polls show majority support and unlike Russia you are free to poll there.

    So I think you are making a smoke screen pretending some organic or democratic process led us to where we are now.

    I'm not making a smoke screen. I'm looking at data.

    I don't believe that a democratic process led to the war. Putin is a dictator and chose to launch this invasion. He didn't run it by the Duma and even some of his generals. Russian State media has referred to Putin as the Tsar which is amusing since at the start of the war we had Putin defenders getting upset if we called him that. They were still trying to argue that he wasn't a dictator. Putin's Jewish Dr. No calls him "the supreme" and has said that they answer to him.

    The West made a number of serious war like moves against Russia which led to this mess. These include expansion of NATO

    Ukraine didn't have the votes of France and Germany and NATO recently stated that Ukraine still may not be able to join. There is still hesitancy which further undermines Putin's claim that Russia needed to invade Ukraine to stop NATO from expanding East. Hungary alone can stop their bid as the vote needs to be unanimous. There also has to be a referendum and Ukraine would have to reform their military unless there is a unanimous vote on removing that restriction.

    In retrospect do you think Putin should have invaded Finland first? That would have kept NATO from expanding further East, correct?

    he fact that the CIA and the state department did the coup

    How was there a coup if the Ukrainian parliament removed a corrupt president? Are you saying he was innocent or that he should not have been removed?

    I am against nuclear war.

    Well no one is for nuclear war. I would not be worried about Putin using a tactical nuke. It takes multiple people to launch one and there are much better ways of cheating.

    Russia could also bomb Kharkov down to the ground destroying all AFU assets and equipment there. I think they can do this now and at any time since the beginning of the SMO. They do not want to do this mainly because they don’t want to kill the civilians but also because it plays into Western hands.

    The Russians completely destroyed Bakhmut. The civilians were given a warning and most left.

    On Russian state tv this is referred to as liberation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaJudUHA-k

    The people behind this mess would be happy to see Kharkov destroyed, They don’t care about Ukrainians or their country.

    So you would describe the Russians as caring about these cities?

  531. @Mikel
    @songbird



    probable Russia asset Tulsi

    Why is she a Russian asset
     
    Because she is against foreign wars. I thought it was well known by now that nobody can possibly hold that position not having been paid by Moscow. Don't you watch CNN? ;-]

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Why is she a Russian asset

    Because she is against foreign wars.

    Her constant repetition of Russian propaganda preceded the war and goes beyond merely “not supporting wars.”

    But maybe there is something else there. There exist certain women who love killers and send them letter to prison. Tulsi seems to have a thing for murderous enemies of the USA. Here she is with Assad:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

    She got some money out of it:

    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/03/14/checks--imbalances-gabbards-pro-putin-patron-russian-oligarch-indicted/?sh=6187092b372a

    [MORE]

    The largest individual donor to former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s (D-Hawaii) PAC in 2021 is an apologist for Vladimir Putin who runs a nonprofit that aims to foster cooperation between the U.S. and Russia. Gabbard has long taken pro-Russian positions, most recently on Sunday when she gave credence to a baseless Russian-supported conspiracy about U.S. involvement in biological-weapons laboratories in Ukraine.

    In 1983, towards the end of the Cold War, Sharon Tennison, an American activist, founded the Center for Citizen Initiatives. Its mission is to “begin a series of citizen-to-citizen initiatives and exchanges, buttressed by official media PR and social-media networks across America and across Russia,” according to its website. During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs. On a visit to Russia in 2016, the Federal Security Service detained Tennison for a few hours on suspicions of being a foreign agent, according to the Christian Science Monitor.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    In regards to Assad, would whoever replaces him actually be better or worse than he himself is? Because Tsar Nicholas II was also viewed as atrocious but he was still a saint in comparison to what came later.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  532. @AP
    @QCIC


    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine
     
    There you go again. Up has to be down and down has to be up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

    I am attempting to pop your fantasy bubbles. We know both sides have always had WMDs of all types. The US-funding for bioweapons labs in Ukraine was highly provocative at a minimum. You can accept this and simply try to make excuses. I think the overall pattern of the Western proxy war using their Ukrainian pawn against Russia supports the disturbing idea that the US was in fact funding offensive bioweapons development. I have no idea of what type of organisms or how complete the work was.

    While I hated communism I don’t hate the Russians as you seem to. I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off. Surprise surprise, this didn’t work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @QCIC


    The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.
     
    If poking its eye means Moscow losing sovereignty and no longer being able to rule over the non-Russian former SSRs, this seems like it was an inevitable consequence of the fall of Communism. Communism provided the legitimacy for this kind of rule, and when it collapsed this legitimacy disappeared in the eyes of the people in those other republics.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Beckow
    @QCIC


    USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws...this didn’t work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.
     
    That's what happened and it was completely unnecessary. It has backfired horribly on the West - and the poor Ukies. If NATO had just kept to itself and behaved normally Europe would be a much better place.

    The idea that a weakened adversary has to be completely controlled (even destroyed) goes back to the sick-Roman mentality of Carthage must be destroyed!, and the Gauls, etc...It comes out of the inability to see others as being sovereign, having their own culture, making their own lives including own mistakes. Something in the Western psyche feeds this busy-body behavior. They always end up paying a high price. This time they will regret it bitterly too, but not as much as the Ukies...
    , @sudden death
    @QCIC


    I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.
     
    Here above again example of autocaller mode psting, so it needs to be stressed again that West has very charitably left RF as the only nuclear state in Eastern Europe after the fall of USSR while it had all the chances and possibilities to do otherwise back then as some people had advocated early in the 90's already. So what was done in practice and reality was nothing but the opposite of declawing.:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMpAvf7XsAEdIx8.png

    https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Mearsheimer-Case-for-Ukrainian-Nuclear-Deterrent.pdf

    Replies: @QCIC

  533. @songbird
    @Mikel

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US. But that the Jamaican-Indian Harris is the most loyal of all.

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP's stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can't be about territoriality.

    And yet, if he is for Galicia specifically, it is hard to understand why he wouldn't embrace the candidate who seems more inclined to support a peace deal or a freeze in the conflict (I.e. Trump.)

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly. It is not obvious to me that he has thought through a realistic end to the conflict, and doesn't want unconditional US support for a continuous war, until Russia surrenders, which seems quite unlikely.

    Replies: @AP, @Matra, @Mikel

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US

    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?

    He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine

    Where did I claim that?

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly.

    End the war ASAP under conditions in which Ukraine doesn’t undergo a brutal occupation, and in which there almost certainly will be no future war (which will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ). I personally don’t think it would be worth it to lose another 100,000 men to retake the Crimean corridor or to restore the 1991 border. I would be willing to trade land for peace and security. but not for peace without security. Most Ukrainians disagree with me about that (they don’t want to give up territory), and since Ukraine is a democracy their wishes will drive policy. Russia also opposes this – they might agree to a ceasefire but they demand that Ukraine be demilitarized and isolated from any alliances. Such helplessness will only invite another invasion in a few years after Russia rebuilds. So until Russia comes to its senses and gives up on the idea of conquering Ukraine I support helping Ukraine to keep Russia at bay.

    Hopefully that is clear?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?
     
    In either case, he's certainly done well for himself. No doubt he's eyeing an important post within a potential Trump cabinet. Closer to home, he's managed to influence Ron Unz and his opinions regarding Dr. Fauci and his mirky roles in helping to guide the Covid pandemic outcomes (and possibly being involved in its creation and export of it from Chinese laboratories). I know that you work in the medical field, and wonder how you feel about Kennedy's theories about Dr. Fauci and any possible role that he may have played in the whole sordid Covid affair? Kennedy's best selling book on the subject matter certainly caught the attention of a lot of folks besides Ron Unz.
    , @songbird
    @AP


    Where did I use the word traitor?
     
    "Agent" is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.

    Frankly, your labeling of Musk as a Chinese agent seems very strange to me. He is nearly the only one pushing the envelope on spacelaunch, and there are probably about a dozen Chinese companies rushing to play catch-up. All behind for now, but eventually a few will catch up. Esp. the more Musk is villainized.

    >He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine

    Where did I claim that?
     
    Didn't you say they all have AIDS and are poor, or something? Oh, I see - you were talking about Russians in Ukraine. But it is still puzzling why you don't seem to support a freeze.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).
     
    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don't think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon - tiny rockets).

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn't actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms. I don't think it maps very well onto what other countries want.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes? Does the American public want to go to war against a nuclear power, or to strike it with long range conventionals via a proxy?

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine. One realistically with more disastrous consequences as it would involve migration both away from the nation and from the Global South as a mass source input for replacement.

    Replies: @AP

  534. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    They'll probably stick a drunk Russian in a T-34 and use it for crude artillery or mine detecting the hard way.

    Once everyone has top attack or smart attacks in general, the heavy frontal armor of the existing main battle tanks may be dead weight.

    Yea it's a waste of gas.

    Getting them into Ukraine will be a feat in itself. The engine is from WW2 and they aren't known to be reliable. I assume they will be used in "one and done" battles. Or maybe just drop them off with trucks in defensive positions.

    The Ukrainians can probably take one out with a small fpv drone.

    You're better off with all around armor and wheels.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Of course the Russians may be gearing up for pacification efforts after a Ukrainian surrender is announced. They don’t need T90s for that, but hundreds of T34s might come in handy.

  535. Georgia as a Pawn in Great Power Rivalry – Lasha Kasradze & Prof Glenn Diesen on Georgian TV (Imedi)

  536. @AP
    @Mikel


    Why is she a Russian asset

    Because she is against foreign wars.
     
    Her constant repetition of Russian propaganda preceded the war and goes beyond merely "not supporting wars."

    But maybe there is something else there. There exist certain women who love killers and send them letter to prison. Tulsi seems to have a thing for murderous enemies of the USA. Here she is with Assad:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

    She got some money out of it:

    Tulsi's biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/03/14/checks--imbalances-gabbards-pro-putin-patron-russian-oligarch-indicted/?sh=6187092b372a



    The largest individual donor to former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s (D-Hawaii) PAC in 2021 is an apologist for Vladimir Putin who runs a nonprofit that aims to foster cooperation between the U.S. and Russia. Gabbard has long taken pro-Russian positions, most recently on Sunday when she gave credence to a baseless Russian-supported conspiracy about U.S. involvement in biological-weapons laboratories in Ukraine.

    In 1983, towards the end of the Cold War, Sharon Tennison, an American activist, founded the Center for Citizen Initiatives. Its mission is to “begin a series of citizen-to-citizen initiatives and exchanges, buttressed by official media PR and social-media networks across America and across Russia,” according to its website. During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs. On a visit to Russia in 2016, the Federal Security Service detained Tennison for a few hours on suspicions of being a foreign agent, according to the Christian Science Monitor.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    In regards to Assad, would whoever replaces him actually be better or worse than he himself is? Because Tsar Nicholas II was also viewed as atrocious but he was still a saint in comparison to what came later.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. XYZ

    Gaddaffi in Libya was a damn sight better than any Libyan leader before or since. He used the oil and gas money to bring fresh water to his people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River


    He wasn't a very nice guy in some ways. But in countries like Syria and Libya, nice guys don't get to be leaders.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  537. @QCIC
    @AP

    I am attempting to pop your fantasy bubbles. We know both sides have always had WMDs of all types. The US-funding for bioweapons labs in Ukraine was highly provocative at a minimum. You can accept this and simply try to make excuses. I think the overall pattern of the Western proxy war using their Ukrainian pawn against Russia supports the disturbing idea that the US was in fact funding offensive bioweapons development. I have no idea of what type of organisms or how complete the work was.

    While I hated communism I don't hate the Russians as you seem to. I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off. Surprise surprise, this didn't work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow, @sudden death

    The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.

    If poking its eye means Moscow losing sovereignty and no longer being able to rule over the non-Russian former SSRs, this seems like it was an inevitable consequence of the fall of Communism. Communism provided the legitimacy for this kind of rule, and when it collapsed this legitimacy disappeared in the eyes of the people in those other republics.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Coconuts

    I was referring to what has happened AFTER the non-Russian FSU states fell away. I think non-Communist Russia reluctantly accepted the new state of affairs around 1991 including the idea of a CIS with strong ties to Belarus and Ukraine, medium ties to Azerbaijan, Georgia and Kazakhstan and weaker ties to other potential members. I believe the West wanted to break all of these ties, strip away Kaliningrad and Crimea and eventually create fractures within Russia proper.

  538. @QCIC
    @AP

    I am attempting to pop your fantasy bubbles. We know both sides have always had WMDs of all types. The US-funding for bioweapons labs in Ukraine was highly provocative at a minimum. You can accept this and simply try to make excuses. I think the overall pattern of the Western proxy war using their Ukrainian pawn against Russia supports the disturbing idea that the US was in fact funding offensive bioweapons development. I have no idea of what type of organisms or how complete the work was.

    While I hated communism I don't hate the Russians as you seem to. I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off. Surprise surprise, this didn't work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow, @sudden death

    USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws…this didn’t work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    That’s what happened and it was completely unnecessary. It has backfired horribly on the West – and the poor Ukies. If NATO had just kept to itself and behaved normally Europe would be a much better place.

    The idea that a weakened adversary has to be completely controlled (even destroyed) goes back to the sick-Roman mentality of Carthage must be destroyed!, and the Gauls, etc…It comes out of the inability to see others as being sovereign, having their own culture, making their own lives including own mistakes. Something in the Western psyche feeds this busy-body behavior. They always end up paying a high price. This time they will regret it bitterly too, but not as much as the Ukies…

  539. @songbird
    @Coconuts


    Rutabaga sounds quite exotic
     
    Within America, it is common word, though most (myself included) would be hard-pressed to identify exactly what it looks like as compared to true turnips. So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.

    I think it is acknowledged to be one of those words which somehow inherently sound funny. Perhaps, connected to the fact it comes from Swedish, which is also considered to sound comical.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word "gay" should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called "rutabagas." I think it was a local radio personality.

    It was Tom Roswell (Jive) who I saw employ the word "swede" in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Rowsell/status/1851215515064152360

    Replies: @Coconuts

    So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.

    This is interesting, just by appearance they don’t look related, and then it’s strange that the swede is what hybridisation between these two produced.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word “gay” should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called “rutabagas.” I think it was a local radio personality.

    This is a good idea, it would be good for memes. In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV (Swedish Wallander, Martin Beck, A Unit, The Bridge, those are the ones I remember watching), Swedish started to sound quite familiar, a bit like Dutch where you keep catching phrases and expressions that sound close to English. Danish otoh was always really hard to make out, more so than German. A few Danish dramas were appearing at the same time (e.g. The Killing, Borgen).

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them. Pumpkins were rare (maybe they weren’t really on widespread sale at that point and were too expensive to use for Halloween purposes). I wonder if these British Halloween traditions survive much now?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts


    In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV
     
    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.

    TBH, the only murder show that I ever liked even a little was Murder, She Wrote with Angela Landsbury. Mostly because it seemed relatively less degenerate. I can still remember some wokeness to it - but nothing compared to today.

    It is an old show that had an older audience. Landsbury tried to employ out-of-work, older actors, so there is almost a confucian quality to it. She didn't have kids, but it was explained away as some medical thing, with her or her husband. (She was a widow) She had plenty of nephews or nieces as guest stars. The fact that the show was mainly set in Maine and filmed in the '80s limited the diversity.

    They say the show Columbo was really big in Japan.

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them
     
    I remember a pumpkin being featured prominently in the Wallace and Grommit Were-Rabbit movie.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing - maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  540. @songbird
    Do Indians call East Asians "rice bags?". And don't indians eat a lot of rice too?
    https://twitter.com/viprabuddhi/status/1850713285059920312

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Ricebag is a Indian slang for converts to Christianity.

    The stereotype is the Asian Christian is a descendant of a poor peasant who converted to Christianity by missionaries offering something as trivial as a bag of rice.Hence the slur Ricebag usually used for any Asian Christian who has disparaging remarks for Hinduism or broadly the present Hindu Nationalist Government in India.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Vishnugupta

    Thanks. Does remind me vaguely a bit of the famine-era term in Ireland "souper" for converts to Protestantism.

    Am surprised that I can't think of another analogue elsewhere, but that is probably just my lack of knowledge and language barriers.

    Apparently, in Irish, soupers were called cat breacs (speckled cats), which seems to me like a very curious term - would speculate it had something to do with soup stains.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

    , @AP
    @Vishnugupta

    Christians were traditionally integrated as a higher caste in Kerala because they were descended from people of higher caste who were converted ~1500 years ago. Ricebag probably refers to those who converted recently; interestingly, these recent converts from lower castes were considered to be Untouchable by the traditional Christians.

    (I had once worked with a colleague who was from a traditional Christian family from Kerala).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian_Christians



    The Saint Thomas Christians claim to derive status within the caste system from the tradition that they were elites who were evangelized by Thomas the Apostle.[20][21][22] Anand Amaladass says that "The Syrian Christians had inserted themselves within the Indian caste society for centuries and were regarded by the Hindus as a caste occupying a high place within their caste hierarchy."[23] Saint Thomas Christians followed the same rules of caste and pollution as that of Hindus and they were considered as pollution neutralizers.[20][24] Rajendra Prasad, an Indian historian, said that the Syrian Christians took ritual baths after physical contact with lower castes.

    In the colonial period, many lower castes were converted to Christians by the European Missionaries but the new converts were not allowed to join the Saint Thomas Christian community and they continued to be considered as untouchables even by the Syrian Christians.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  541. @emil nikola richard
    @Coconuts

    We need a plant biochemist to inform us the distinction between plants which are food (broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, spinach, potatoes, carrots, peas, beans, &c)

    and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c).

    Why are some varieties of squash (e.g. zucchini) food and some varieties are vomit?

    Replies: @Coconuts

    …and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c)

    I think with these ones opinion varies as to whether they are human food.

    Turnips are food in the British Isles, but in Belarus they are only for cattle, whereas pumpkins are eaten in Belarus but they are seen more as decoration in Britain. Kale is the basis for a very popular Portuguese soup, but is food for cattle in Britain. I don’t mind eating all of them, Kale I like the least.

    Cilantro is in a lot of Indian curries (in its ground form as a spice) and in Mexican food?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Coconuts

    Turnip is more like a Garnish on Roast Beef or a Roasted Chicken platter. Not eat by itself like a roasted potato might be. Roasted along with Potato, Parsnips, carrots, some onion in a pan with all the juices becoming a gravy. Soufflé or Yorkshire Pudding as an extra.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUn2yAyKUhg

  542. @Coconuts
    @emil nikola richard


    ...and plants which are not food (turnips, kale, pumpkin, cilantro, &c)
     
    I think with these ones opinion varies as to whether they are human food.

    Turnips are food in the British Isles, but in Belarus they are only for cattle, whereas pumpkins are eaten in Belarus but they are seen more as decoration in Britain. Kale is the basis for a very popular Portuguese soup, but is food for cattle in Britain. I don't mind eating all of them, Kale I like the least.

    Cilantro is in a lot of Indian curries (in its ground form as a spice) and in Mexican food?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Turnip is more like a Garnish on Roast Beef or a Roasted Chicken platter. Not eat by itself like a roasted potato might be. Roasted along with Potato, Parsnips, carrots, some onion in a pan with all the juices becoming a gravy. Soufflé or Yorkshire Pudding as an extra.

  543. I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is. DR is building a wall and rounding up all the Haitians. Trump if more like Bolsonaro, Peron, Abidenar, than like Reagan, Bushes, Nixon, etc.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.

    The process is clearly intended to cause strife and destroy the fabric of American society. It also creates more Democratic voters. Through the use of gross media distortion it can also be used as a rallying point to motivate very shallow democratic voters.

    Replies: @A123

  544. @Vishnugupta
    @songbird

    Ricebag is a Indian slang for converts to Christianity.

    The stereotype is the Asian Christian is a descendant of a poor peasant who converted to Christianity by missionaries offering something as trivial as a bag of rice.Hence the slur Ricebag usually used for any Asian Christian who has disparaging remarks for Hinduism or broadly the present Hindu Nationalist Government in India.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Thanks. Does remind me vaguely a bit of the famine-era term in Ireland “souper” for converts to Protestantism.

    Am surprised that I can’t think of another analogue elsewhere, but that is probably just my lack of knowledge and language barriers.

    Apparently, in Irish, soupers were called cat breacs (speckled cats), which seems to me like a very curious term – would speculate it had something to do with soup stains.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

  545. @Vishnugupta
    @songbird

    Ricebag is a Indian slang for converts to Christianity.

    The stereotype is the Asian Christian is a descendant of a poor peasant who converted to Christianity by missionaries offering something as trivial as a bag of rice.Hence the slur Ricebag usually used for any Asian Christian who has disparaging remarks for Hinduism or broadly the present Hindu Nationalist Government in India.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Christians were traditionally integrated as a higher caste in Kerala because they were descended from people of higher caste who were converted ~1500 years ago. Ricebag probably refers to those who converted recently; interestingly, these recent converts from lower castes were considered to be Untouchable by the traditional Christians.

    (I had once worked with a colleague who was from a traditional Christian family from Kerala).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian_Christians

    [MORE]

    The Saint Thomas Christians claim to derive status within the caste system from the tradition that they were elites who were evangelized by Thomas the Apostle.[20][21][22] Anand Amaladass says that “The Syrian Christians had inserted themselves within the Indian caste society for centuries and were regarded by the Hindus as a caste occupying a high place within their caste hierarchy.”[23] Saint Thomas Christians followed the same rules of caste and pollution as that of Hindus and they were considered as pollution neutralizers.[20][24] Rajendra Prasad, an Indian historian, said that the Syrian Christians took ritual baths after physical contact with lower castes.

    In the colonial period, many lower castes were converted to Christians by the European Missionaries but the new converts were not allowed to join the Saint Thomas Christian community and they continued to be considered as untouchables even by the Syrian Christians.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @AP

    Yes.Christianity entered Kerela a few centuries before Europe and Kerela Christians have a very different identity than others converted by Europeans.

    Quite a few Kerela Christians are staunch BJP/RSS supporters.

    Replies: @Matra

  546. @QCIC
    @AP

    I am attempting to pop your fantasy bubbles. We know both sides have always had WMDs of all types. The US-funding for bioweapons labs in Ukraine was highly provocative at a minimum. You can accept this and simply try to make excuses. I think the overall pattern of the Western proxy war using their Ukrainian pawn against Russia supports the disturbing idea that the US was in fact funding offensive bioweapons development. I have no idea of what type of organisms or how complete the work was.

    While I hated communism I don't hate the Russians as you seem to. I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off. Surprise surprise, this didn't work and the bear is fighting back. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow, @sudden death

    I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.

    Here above again example of autocaller mode psting, so it needs to be stressed again that West has very charitably left RF as the only nuclear state in Eastern Europe after the fall of USSR while it had all the chances and possibilities to do otherwise back then as some people had advocated early in the 90’s already. So what was done in practice and reality was nothing but the opposite of declawing.:

    https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Mearsheimer-Case-for-Ukrainian-Nuclear-Deterrent.pdf

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @sudden death

    The West saw the denuclearization of Ukraine and recovery or destruction of Soviet weapons in other FSU countries as an essential part of weakening the Superpower entity formerly known as the Soviet Union and before that the Russian Empire. The worst case in their minds would be Ukraine and Russia coexisting peacefully and having a mutual security alliance to protect themselves from the West.

    This excerpt is very confused, I wonder what Stephen Cohen wrote at the time? Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Around 1990 there was a widely held belief in the Western security establishment that "Star Wars" missile defense was the direct cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion is that the US had a massive lead in the technology which gave the USA an unassailable advantage over the USSR and broke the MAD stalemate. Russia feared this and tried to keep up, wrecking her fragile economy in the process. In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare. However, many influential military and strategic people seem to believe the Star Wars fantasy story. Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don't work very well. However, the idea was always to get ahead of the Russians and break the MAD stalemate. Around 2000 the Russians figured this out and have been gradually rebuilding.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @John Johnson

  547. @AP
    @songbird


    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US
     
    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?

    He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine
     
    Where did I claim that?

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly.
     
    End the war ASAP under conditions in which Ukraine doesn't undergo a brutal occupation, and in which there almost certainly will be no future war (which will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ). I personally don't think it would be worth it to lose another 100,000 men to retake the Crimean corridor or to restore the 1991 border. I would be willing to trade land for peace and security. but not for peace without security. Most Ukrainians disagree with me about that (they don't want to give up territory), and since Ukraine is a democracy their wishes will drive policy. Russia also opposes this - they might agree to a ceasefire but they demand that Ukraine be demilitarized and isolated from any alliances. Such helplessness will only invite another invasion in a few years after Russia rebuilds. So until Russia comes to its senses and gives up on the idea of conquering Ukraine I support helping Ukraine to keep Russia at bay.

    Hopefully that is clear?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?

    In either case, he’s certainly done well for himself. No doubt he’s eyeing an important post within a potential Trump cabinet. Closer to home, he’s managed to influence Ron Unz and his opinions regarding Dr. Fauci and his mirky roles in helping to guide the Covid pandemic outcomes (and possibly being involved in its creation and export of it from Chinese laboratories). I know that you work in the medical field, and wonder how you feel about Kennedy’s theories about Dr. Fauci and any possible role that he may have played in the whole sordid Covid affair? Kennedy’s best selling book on the subject matter certainly caught the attention of a lot of folks besides Ron Unz.

  548. @Coconuts
    @QCIC


    The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.
     
    If poking its eye means Moscow losing sovereignty and no longer being able to rule over the non-Russian former SSRs, this seems like it was an inevitable consequence of the fall of Communism. Communism provided the legitimacy for this kind of rule, and when it collapsed this legitimacy disappeared in the eyes of the people in those other republics.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I was referring to what has happened AFTER the non-Russian FSU states fell away. I think non-Communist Russia reluctantly accepted the new state of affairs around 1991 including the idea of a CIS with strong ties to Belarus and Ukraine, medium ties to Azerbaijan, Georgia and Kazakhstan and weaker ties to other potential members. I believe the West wanted to break all of these ties, strip away Kaliningrad and Crimea and eventually create fractures within Russia proper.

  549. @AP
    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is. DR is building a wall and rounding up all the Haitians. Trump if more like Bolsonaro, Peron, Abidenar, than like Reagan, Bushes, Nixon, etc.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.



    https://twitter.com/hashtaggriswold/status/1850901751416664316?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.

    The process is clearly intended to cause strife and destroy the fabric of American society. It also creates more Democratic voters. Through the use of gross media distortion it can also be used as a rallying point to motivate very shallow democratic voters.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.
     

    Of course. Everyone with deep knowledge knew that some time ago. The problem is that did not change policy. The trick was communicating to & impacting those who have little knowledge or interest.

    Memes are an effective, high value tool to reach this normally less than engaged group. Repeat a concise and compelling message enough times, and it obtains mental traction. Those triggered by and who deride images like this want open borders.

     
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/10/21/89460495-13835395-Another_AI_generated_image_shows_Trump_holding_a_cat_and_a_duck_-a-30_1725998741330.jpg
     

    The other big one was Governor Abbott's plan the to encourage voluntarily intra-U.S. moves to Sanctuary Cities in Sanctuary States. It was easy for NIMBY locations like Chicago and NYC to support an open Southern border. Now that it is directly impacting their residents, they are no longer enthusiastic about it.

    How many can Trump's 2nd term remigrate? And, how quickly? His administration will have opportunities. Alas, the judicial obstacles are formidable. However, Trump can re-impose Title 42 "Stay in Mexico" early on due to dangerous strains of communicable TB.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  550. @AP
    @songbird


    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US
     
    Where did I use the word traitor? RFK Jr is a psychopath, who knows if he is a traitor?

    He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine
     
    Where did I claim that?

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly.
     
    End the war ASAP under conditions in which Ukraine doesn't undergo a brutal occupation, and in which there almost certainly will be no future war (which will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ). I personally don't think it would be worth it to lose another 100,000 men to retake the Crimean corridor or to restore the 1991 border. I would be willing to trade land for peace and security. but not for peace without security. Most Ukrainians disagree with me about that (they don't want to give up territory), and since Ukraine is a democracy their wishes will drive policy. Russia also opposes this - they might agree to a ceasefire but they demand that Ukraine be demilitarized and isolated from any alliances. Such helplessness will only invite another invasion in a few years after Russia rebuilds. So until Russia comes to its senses and gives up on the idea of conquering Ukraine I support helping Ukraine to keep Russia at bay.

    Hopefully that is clear?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    Where did I use the word traitor?

    “Agent” is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.

    [MORE]

    Frankly, your labeling of Musk as a Chinese agent seems very strange to me. He is nearly the only one pushing the envelope on spacelaunch, and there are probably about a dozen Chinese companies rushing to play catch-up. All behind for now, but eventually a few will catch up. Esp. the more Musk is villainized.

    >He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine

    Where did I claim that?

    Didn’t you say they all have AIDS and are poor, or something? Oh, I see – you were talking about Russians in Ukraine. But it is still puzzling why you don’t seem to support a freeze.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).

    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don’t think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon – tiny rockets).

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn’t actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms. I don’t think it maps very well onto what other countries want.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes? Does the American public want to go to war against a nuclear power, or to strike it with long range conventionals via a proxy?

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine. One realistically with more disastrous consequences as it would involve migration both away from the nation and from the Global South as a mass source input for replacement.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    Where did I use the word traitor?

    “Agent” is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.
     
    You claimed I "consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US." No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath, who knows his motivations - maybe trying to torment his son (his son has volunteered to fight for Ukraine).

    Second, the ones who want to cut Ukraine off are not advocates for peace, no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an "advocate for peace." They are rather an advocate for the war being a much more bloody guerilla war.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).

    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don’t think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon – tiny rockets).
     
    South Korea didn't get nukes because it has an alliance with the USA and US troops on its soil. They were unnecessary. But it does have a nuke program and can produce nukes within months if doing so becomes necessary. Germany was in NATO. Ukraine will either have some sort of alliance guaranteeing its security, or a strong native deterrent such as nukes (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities). If Ukraine exists it will secure itself in some way. And in order for Ukraine to cease to exist, Russia will have to conquer the whole thing. Very unlikely. So in the long term it will be either NATO or some other guarantee, or nukes or some other military deterrent.

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn’t actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one
     
    Indeed. NATO membership would deter Russia from attacking Ukraine. That's the point of it. And such a deterrence would make it unnecessary for Ukraine to get its own nukes.

    If you don't support that, you want war. I don't want war.

    Baltics haven't had war because they are in NATO. Georgia and Ukraine, not in NATO, had wars. It's simple.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms.
     
    Russia need not collapse to figure out that it can't conquer all of Ukraine (or even half of it) and to eventually accept that the parts of Ukraine it cannot control will either secure their safety via an alliance or via nukes.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes?
     
    This is what the response will be to American weakness and Russian aggression.

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine.
     
    I support helping Ukraine prevent this conventional war from becoming a much deadlier guerilla war. You think that USA cutting Ukraine off will result in Ukraine surrendering and exposing its people to murderers, rapists and looters? No, it will still fight with others' help. But fighting might get into cities and casualties might be in the multiple 100,000s or over a million. Little Chechnya had about 150,000 dead. Ukraine is several times larger.

    If you really didn't want an endless war you would have supported Ukraine getting everything it needed to stop Russia sooner. Did you? If not, you wanted a long war. That seems to be what Biden wanted, although his softness may have led to this point inadvertently.

    Replies: @songbird

  551. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't know if a majority of Ukrainians support the war, but I look at it differently anyway. I don't think Ukraine would have gotten into this war with Russia without extensive external manipulation of the situation. I doubt they are that crazy. So I think you are making a smoke screen pretending some organic or democratic process led us to where we are now.

    The West made a number of serious war like moves against Russia which led to this mess. These include expansion of NATO, USA dropping the ABM treaty, the USA putting missile bases in Eastern Europe and other crucial steps; these are all related to the current war. The fact that the CIA and the state department did the coup, while other government organizations led the charge on things like missile bases does not change the fact that it was a concerted Western effort over a very long time to start a proxy war with Russia. Since the entire situation is completely woven through with propaganda I don't think your questions make much sense.

    I am against nuclear war. I do not support the subjugation of the Ukrainian people, but they allowed the West to get them into a terrible mess. Getting past this will take a long time.

    I think Russia has three choices for Kharkov. They are following the course of grinding down the AFU while avoiding high civilian casualties (best choice). Kharkov is not really involved as far as I know. I think they are willing to do this until Ukrainians have their own regime change and decide to make peace with Russia and eject all Western influence. Russia could also bomb Kharkov down to the ground destroying all AFU assets and equipment there. I think they can do this now and at any time since the beginning of the SMO. They do not want to do this mainly because they don't want to kill the civilians but also because it plays into Western hands. The people behind this mess would be happy to see Kharkov destroyed, They don't care about Ukrainians or their country. The third option would be to soften up the city by destroying all the infrastructure and military sites without bombing everything to the ground. Maybe the AFU would surrender or maybe Russia would lose 50,000 men cleaning them out. I doubt the Russian people would accept this high loss, plus it leaves the Army weaker. If Russia decides to defeat the AFU forces hunkered down in a large city I doubt it will be Kiev or Kharkov.

    Kharkov was a center of Soviet high technology. If the Russians believe nuclear weapons are being created there the stakes are higher.

    From the Russian perspective the best target might be one that has a large concentration of AFU forces but is minimally important to the West and less historically important to Russia. Sadly, this might be one of the larger cities in the middle of the country.

    As far as the DPRK military goes, I think they are training and fighting with Russia. This is natural and I expected it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I don’t know if a majority of Ukrainians support the war, but I look at it differently anyway.

    Well the polls show majority support and unlike Russia you are free to poll there.

    So I think you are making a smoke screen pretending some organic or democratic process led us to where we are now.

    I’m not making a smoke screen. I’m looking at data.

    I don’t believe that a democratic process led to the war. Putin is a dictator and chose to launch this invasion. He didn’t run it by the Duma and even some of his generals. Russian State media has referred to Putin as the Tsar which is amusing since at the start of the war we had Putin defenders getting upset if we called him that. They were still trying to argue that he wasn’t a dictator. Putin’s Jewish Dr. No calls him “the supreme” and has said that they answer to him.

    The West made a number of serious war like moves against Russia which led to this mess. These include expansion of NATO

    Ukraine didn’t have the votes of France and Germany and NATO recently stated that Ukraine still may not be able to join. There is still hesitancy which further undermines Putin’s claim that Russia needed to invade Ukraine to stop NATO from expanding East. Hungary alone can stop their bid as the vote needs to be unanimous. There also has to be a referendum and Ukraine would have to reform their military unless there is a unanimous vote on removing that restriction.

    In retrospect do you think Putin should have invaded Finland first? That would have kept NATO from expanding further East, correct?

    he fact that the CIA and the state department did the coup

    How was there a coup if the Ukrainian parliament removed a corrupt president? Are you saying he was innocent or that he should not have been removed?

    I am against nuclear war.

    Well no one is for nuclear war. I would not be worried about Putin using a tactical nuke. It takes multiple people to launch one and there are much better ways of cheating.

    Russia could also bomb Kharkov down to the ground destroying all AFU assets and equipment there. I think they can do this now and at any time since the beginning of the SMO. They do not want to do this mainly because they don’t want to kill the civilians but also because it plays into Western hands.

    The Russians completely destroyed Bakhmut. The civilians were given a warning and most left.

    On Russian state tv this is referred to as liberation:

    The people behind this mess would be happy to see Kharkov destroyed, They don’t care about Ukrainians or their country.

    So you would describe the Russians as caring about these cities?

    • LOL: Mikhail
  552. @sudden death
    @QCIC


    I believe that since the fall of the USSR the USA has been much more aggressive toward Russia than Russia has been against the West. The West was obviously trying to kill the weakened bear, by pulling its teeth and claws, poking out an eye and then cutting its nuts off.
     
    Here above again example of autocaller mode psting, so it needs to be stressed again that West has very charitably left RF as the only nuclear state in Eastern Europe after the fall of USSR while it had all the chances and possibilities to do otherwise back then as some people had advocated early in the 90's already. So what was done in practice and reality was nothing but the opposite of declawing.:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMpAvf7XsAEdIx8.png

    https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Mearsheimer-Case-for-Ukrainian-Nuclear-Deterrent.pdf

    Replies: @QCIC

    The West saw the denuclearization of Ukraine and recovery or destruction of Soviet weapons in other FSU countries as an essential part of weakening the Superpower entity formerly known as the Soviet Union and before that the Russian Empire. The worst case in their minds would be Ukraine and Russia coexisting peacefully and having a mutual security alliance to protect themselves from the West.

    This excerpt is very confused, I wonder what Stephen Cohen wrote at the time? Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Around 1990 there was a widely held belief in the Western security establishment that “Star Wars” missile defense was the direct cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion is that the US had a massive lead in the technology which gave the USA an unassailable advantage over the USSR and broke the MAD stalemate. Russia feared this and tried to keep up, wrecking her fragile economy in the process. In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare. However, many influential military and strategic people seem to believe the Star Wars fantasy story. Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don’t work very well. However, the idea was always to get ahead of the Russians and break the MAD stalemate. Around 2000 the Russians figured this out and have been gradually rebuilding.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC


    Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.
     
    Yes that certainly does look like it is opposite to Mearshimer 2024. See previous discussion on free will. People in that business are constrained by watching the algorithm as it tabulates their likes and re-tweets and what nots. : (

    There are a billion people looking at tik tok every day getting what remains of their free will driven to zero asymptotically.

    Did you read Ron Unz's latest comment where he expresses wonder that everybody is interested in food and fat? Wait until he finds out about semaglutidnomics.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don’t work very well.
     
    This is why Aegis Ashore was not particularly provocative to the Russians. It *might* provide some protection in the event of a rogue launch of 1 or 2 missiles. It had 0% impact on the MAD bilateral standoff that continues today.

    Any new treaty would have to include China, and they have shown no interest in participating. A new global, multilateral treaty would have been difficult years ago. It is hard to see any current day path forward given the standoff among China, India, and Pakistan. BRICS has damped the flames a bit, but not put them out.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare.

    Economic warfare?

    So Marxism would have worked if not for those damned Western kids and their capitalism?

    Replies: @QCIC

  553. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    So strange to consider it is a hybrid between turnips and cabbage. I had no idea they were related plants.
     
    This is interesting, just by appearance they don't look related, and then it's strange that the swede is what hybridisation between these two produced.

    A few years back, I vaguely recall some conservative figure suggesting that the word “gay” should be retaken from homosexuals, and they should instead be called “rutabagas.” I think it was a local radio personality.
     
    This is a good idea, it would be good for memes. In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV (Swedish Wallander, Martin Beck, A Unit, The Bridge, those are the ones I remember watching), Swedish started to sound quite familiar, a bit like Dutch where you keep catching phrases and expressions that sound close to English. Danish otoh was always really hard to make out, more so than German. A few Danish dramas were appearing at the same time (e.g. The Killing, Borgen).

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them. Pumpkins were rare (maybe they weren't really on widespread sale at that point and were too expensive to use for Halloween purposes). I wonder if these British Halloween traditions survive much now?



    Some interesting new developments in the Southport murder case that sparked the riots a few months ago:

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/teen-accused-of-uk-girls-murder-in-southport-charged-with-terrorism-offence/ar-AA1t8Mef?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=3a10a661991e486c87f7f9e268f735af&ei=19

    Replies: @songbird

    In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV

    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.

    [MORE]

    TBH, the only murder show that I ever liked even a little was Murder, She Wrote with Angela Landsbury. Mostly because it seemed relatively less degenerate. I can still remember some wokeness to it – but nothing compared to today.

    It is an old show that had an older audience. Landsbury tried to employ out-of-work, older actors, so there is almost a confucian quality to it. She didn’t have kids, but it was explained away as some medical thing, with her or her husband. (She was a widow) She had plenty of nephews or nieces as guest stars. The fact that the show was mainly set in Maine and filmed in the ’80s limited the diversity.

    They say the show Columbo was really big in Japan.

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them

    I remember a pumpkin being featured prominently in the Wallace and Grommit Were-Rabbit movie.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing – maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.
     
    There was some diversity in the Swedish programs, and occasionally I remember overtly woke, or PC as it would have been back then, story lines. British TV itself was much milder in terms of diversity at that time though other forms of progressive content (say about LGBT) had been current for a lot longer. The really overt propaganda stuff gained momentum more from the late 2010s and took off after 2020.



    I think those Scandinavian shows became popular because they were well made, and probably relatively cheap to buy in ready made. They used to be shown in the 9-11pm slot on Saturdays on one of the BBC channels.

    Murder She Wrote used to be shown here as well, we used to watch it sometimes when I was younger. I associate it with Perry Mason series with the guy in a wheelchair, I seem to remember them being shown at the same time.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing – maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.
     
    Are some monster ones grown? I don't think conditions for growing them are as favourable here, you see them around a lot more than used to be the case though. My wife keeps telling me about the official Belarusian news channels leading with stories about competitive vegetable growing, it got me interested in improving my Russian again, enough to be able to follow them.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.
     
    Is it related to the witch trials, or where some of these traditions originated?

    Replies: @songbird

  554. @QCIC
    @sudden death

    The West saw the denuclearization of Ukraine and recovery or destruction of Soviet weapons in other FSU countries as an essential part of weakening the Superpower entity formerly known as the Soviet Union and before that the Russian Empire. The worst case in their minds would be Ukraine and Russia coexisting peacefully and having a mutual security alliance to protect themselves from the West.

    This excerpt is very confused, I wonder what Stephen Cohen wrote at the time? Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Around 1990 there was a widely held belief in the Western security establishment that "Star Wars" missile defense was the direct cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion is that the US had a massive lead in the technology which gave the USA an unassailable advantage over the USSR and broke the MAD stalemate. Russia feared this and tried to keep up, wrecking her fragile economy in the process. In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare. However, many influential military and strategic people seem to believe the Star Wars fantasy story. Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don't work very well. However, the idea was always to get ahead of the Russians and break the MAD stalemate. Around 2000 the Russians figured this out and have been gradually rebuilding.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @John Johnson

    Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Yes that certainly does look like it is opposite to Mearshimer 2024. See previous discussion on free will. People in that business are constrained by watching the algorithm as it tabulates their likes and re-tweets and what nots. : (

    There are a billion people looking at tik tok every day getting what remains of their free will driven to zero asymptotically.

    Did you read Ron Unz’s latest comment where he expresses wonder that everybody is interested in food and fat? Wait until he finds out about semaglutidnomics.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight. I know the truth is more complicated, but my version is funnier. It would be really cool if they had to harvest it from Gila Monsters. Then there would be a huge black market dedicated to raising the lizards.

    Speaking of Ron, I wonder if there are many people who are disinterested in the nutrition industry because it reminds them of Kosher or halal food restrictions? Also, I wonder if there are strident Jewish nutritionists (observant) who simply think they are doing G-d's work, circa 2024?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    , @Mikhail
    @emil nikola richard

    In 2014, Mearsh said Russia was declining power. He has since changed on that particular. Back in 2015, Macgregor referred to Russia as a centuries menace and believed the Kiev regime lies less than Russia.

    People can change when reality sets in. There're also those who got it right from the get go.

  555. Didn’t really like this thing at first, as I was thinking it appears post-racial, and also reminds me of crass commercialism. (Like they were trying to sell merch).

    But I wasn’t really thinking about memes.

  556. @QCIC
    @sudden death

    The West saw the denuclearization of Ukraine and recovery or destruction of Soviet weapons in other FSU countries as an essential part of weakening the Superpower entity formerly known as the Soviet Union and before that the Russian Empire. The worst case in their minds would be Ukraine and Russia coexisting peacefully and having a mutual security alliance to protect themselves from the West.

    This excerpt is very confused, I wonder what Stephen Cohen wrote at the time? Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Around 1990 there was a widely held belief in the Western security establishment that "Star Wars" missile defense was the direct cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion is that the US had a massive lead in the technology which gave the USA an unassailable advantage over the USSR and broke the MAD stalemate. Russia feared this and tried to keep up, wrecking her fragile economy in the process. In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare. However, many influential military and strategic people seem to believe the Star Wars fantasy story. Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don't work very well. However, the idea was always to get ahead of the Russians and break the MAD stalemate. Around 2000 the Russians figured this out and have been gradually rebuilding.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @John Johnson

    Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don’t work very well.

    This is why Aegis Ashore was not particularly provocative to the Russians. It *might* provide some protection in the event of a rogue launch of 1 or 2 missiles. It had 0% impact on the MAD bilateral standoff that continues today.

    Any new treaty would have to include China, and they have shown no interest in participating. A new global, multilateral treaty would have been difficult years ago. It is hard to see any current day path forward given the standoff among China, India, and Pakistan. BRICS has damped the flames a bit, but not put them out.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    I agree that the Aegis Ashore sites in Eastern Europe do not appear pivotal when the limited technical capability of these two sites is considered. However, I see the role of these US anti-ballistic missile facilities as part of a wider perspective related to nuclear war.

    First they are trial balloons put in place when this was relatively easy. This process is vaguely reminiscent of lawmakers passing legislation which is fairly innocuous as a deceptive precursor to draconian rules made later in a progressive process; gun control is one example. Once Russia has been pressured to accept missile sites in Romania and Poland, what prevents the West from putting additional sites in Norway, Greenland, Finland, the Baltics, Georgia and South Korea? These land-based sites are part of a much larger existing network based on Aegis ballistic missile defense destroyers and reconnaissance satellites. Don't forget these sites can also launch offensive cruise missiles. It is safe to assume that some US submarines can be readily modified to launch ABM interceptors. The people driving this want to improve missile defenses, improve the effectiveness of US nuclear weapons and reduce Russia's response time. They don't want to coexist and abide by treaties, they want to win. They foolishly attacked Russia and have now empowered the diabolical Russian men who think like they do. It is just Dr. Strangelove all over again.

  557. @QCIC
    @AP

    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.

    The process is clearly intended to cause strife and destroy the fabric of American society. It also creates more Democratic voters. Through the use of gross media distortion it can also be used as a rallying point to motivate very shallow democratic voters.

    Replies: @A123

    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.

    Of course. Everyone with deep knowledge knew that some time ago. The problem is that did not change policy. The trick was communicating to & impacting those who have little knowledge or interest.

    Memes are an effective, high value tool to reach this normally less than engaged group. Repeat a concise and compelling message enough times, and it obtains mental traction. Those triggered by and who deride images like this want open borders.

      

    The other big one was Governor Abbott’s plan the to encourage voluntarily intra-U.S. moves to Sanctuary Cities in Sanctuary States. It was easy for NIMBY locations like Chicago and NYC to support an open Southern border. Now that it is directly impacting their residents, they are no longer enthusiastic about it.

    How many can Trump’s 2nd term remigrate? And, how quickly? His administration will have opportunities. Alas, the judicial obstacles are formidable. However, Trump can re-impose Title 42 “Stay in Mexico” early on due to dangerous strains of communicable TB.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    A Harris Presidency Is the Only Way to Stay Ahead of A.I.
    Thomas Friedman
    NY Times
    29 Oct

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/opinion/artificial-intelligence-harris-trump-election.html

    No paywall: https://archive.ph/1E80r#selection-649.0-649.57

  558. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC


    Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.
     
    Yes that certainly does look like it is opposite to Mearshimer 2024. See previous discussion on free will. People in that business are constrained by watching the algorithm as it tabulates their likes and re-tweets and what nots. : (

    There are a billion people looking at tik tok every day getting what remains of their free will driven to zero asymptotically.

    Did you read Ron Unz's latest comment where he expresses wonder that everybody is interested in food and fat? Wait until he finds out about semaglutidnomics.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight. I know the truth is more complicated, but my version is funnier. It would be really cool if they had to harvest it from Gila Monsters. Then there would be a huge black market dedicated to raising the lizards.

    Speaking of Ron, I wonder if there are many people who are disinterested in the nutrition industry because it reminds them of Kosher or halal food restrictions? Also, I wonder if there are strident Jewish nutritionists (observant) who simply think they are doing G-d’s work, circa 2024?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Gila_monster2.JPG/1024px-Gila_monster2.JPG

    The cure for the sugar blues. Lizzo has lost 200 pounds on the gila monster venom according to Daily Mail.

    , @songbird
    @QCIC


    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight.
     
    America isn't that impressive when it comes to venomous animals.

    But there is a lot of untapped biopotential in platypus venom and in Aussie animals generally.

    Imagine some combination that could make Lizzo not just lose 200 kg but actually seem attractive.

    It could be there, lurking in the inland taipain. (one bite can kill 100 people). Or in some three-part combination of the venom of the tiger and mulga snakes, titrated to make the death adder beneficial.

    Didn't Medusa have snakes for hair? What if it was a beauty treatment and she had the right idea, but the wrong snakes?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  559. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight. I know the truth is more complicated, but my version is funnier. It would be really cool if they had to harvest it from Gila Monsters. Then there would be a huge black market dedicated to raising the lizards.

    Speaking of Ron, I wonder if there are many people who are disinterested in the nutrition industry because it reminds them of Kosher or halal food restrictions? Also, I wonder if there are strident Jewish nutritionists (observant) who simply think they are doing G-d's work, circa 2024?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    The cure for the sugar blues. Lizzo has lost 200 pounds on the gila monster venom according to Daily Mail.

  560. @A123
    @QCIC


    Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don’t work very well.
     
    This is why Aegis Ashore was not particularly provocative to the Russians. It *might* provide some protection in the event of a rogue launch of 1 or 2 missiles. It had 0% impact on the MAD bilateral standoff that continues today.

    Any new treaty would have to include China, and they have shown no interest in participating. A new global, multilateral treaty would have been difficult years ago. It is hard to see any current day path forward given the standoff among China, India, and Pakistan. BRICS has damped the flames a bit, but not put them out.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    I agree that the Aegis Ashore sites in Eastern Europe do not appear pivotal when the limited technical capability of these two sites is considered. However, I see the role of these US anti-ballistic missile facilities as part of a wider perspective related to nuclear war.

    First they are trial balloons put in place when this was relatively easy. This process is vaguely reminiscent of lawmakers passing legislation which is fairly innocuous as a deceptive precursor to draconian rules made later in a progressive process; gun control is one example. Once Russia has been pressured to accept missile sites in Romania and Poland, what prevents the West from putting additional sites in Norway, Greenland, Finland, the Baltics, Georgia and South Korea? These land-based sites are part of a much larger existing network based on Aegis ballistic missile defense destroyers and reconnaissance satellites. Don’t forget these sites can also launch offensive cruise missiles. It is safe to assume that some US submarines can be readily modified to launch ABM interceptors. The people driving this want to improve missile defenses, improve the effectiveness of US nuclear weapons and reduce Russia’s response time. They don’t want to coexist and abide by treaties, they want to win. They foolishly attacked Russia and have now empowered the diabolical Russian men who think like they do. It is just Dr. Strangelove all over again.

  561. @AP
    @Mikel


    It’s like supporting Ukraine is a litmus test to see if

    … you like them or not
     
    No, it happens to be that they are…flawed.

    You really think RFK is normal, and not a sex-crazed psychopath?

    You don’t think Vivek is a slimy salesman?

    What about Boebert? Gaetz? Greene? Etc.

    What personal vices is Thomas Massie guilty of
     
    He may be a very rare exception. Assuming nothing successfully hidden from the public. His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    Is there any decent politician in the US who nevertheless is against involving the US in foreign conflicts
     
    I haven’t follow other conflicts as closely but there is a very strong correlation between not supporting Ukraine after it was invaded, and indecency. Strong enough that there is something to it. It’s like not supporting a friendly pro -American country that has been brutally invades by a US rival (at best) or enemy (at worst) is a position that mostly attracts bad people.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.

    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.

    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That’s what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being “Putin agents”. Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.

    Imagine the horror. If that doesn’t prove treason, what does?

    I don’t share Matra’s feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.

    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123’s dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It’s not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one’s character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump’s populist and showman tendencies are by no means as “Latin American” as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.

    You shouldn’t take my reminders that you’re voting for Kamala too personally. I don’t care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I’m sure we’ve discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don’t you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Mikel

    I don’t share Matra’s feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs

    Some people very close to me are Slavs too; as in, the same household! Either Czechs are just different or being raised in Sweden has a Westernising effect.

    For the record, to me the worst people coming out of this war are the three Baltic chihuahuas, none of whom are Slavs. Just yesterday I listened to part of a podcast during which an Estonian academic at the University of Toronto expressed dismay at Estonia's national TV network for reporting on Trump as though he were a "legitimate" candidate. (As if it matters to the outcome of the election what Estonian media say about it). On the same panel a Latvian complained that there is one (yes, only one) member of the Latvian parliament who has expressed support for Trump's populism. Let's just say the last two years have put to rest any pretense that Baltic opposition to the USSR was due to love of democracy, pluralism, freedom or any of the other words that people in the Baltics clearly don't give a damn about. Being against Russia for nationalist reasons is understandable but for some reason they and other Eastern Europeans can't seem to accept that their nationalism is particular, not universal.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @A123
    @Mikel


    I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123
     
    Mikel.

    Everyone expects malicious attacks from you. Do you not see that calling me "pro-Putin" is very misleading? Why do you go for such degenerate DNC deception when you know it will not work?

    As I have made clear many, many, many times... I understand that open border Globalists, such as yourself, want a Forever War in Ukraine. Your goal is actually migration, not Ukie victory. Genuine Ukrainian refugees undercut the wages of native European workers. And, probably over 1/3 of the total migrants are MENA and sub-Saharan Muslims on forged identify documents.

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die? Your Anti-Christian blood lust is an admission of immorality.

    Why do you hate Jews and Christians in Europe?

    Your support for the Great Muslim Replacement is yet another #NeverMAGA cult position on your part. Those of us who seek an end to the conflict are still looking for a negotiated deal. Sadly, your Führer Zelensky is run by Islamophile SJW Globalist elites, and will not negotiate in good faith.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel.
     
    Ukraine has not made actions worthy of nearly as much criticism as Israel has done.

    That’s what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land
     
    We did. We condemned Russia for doing it. Ukraine was shooting back.

    How many French condemn the Western allies for the ~20,000 French civilians killed in the process of expelling the Germans from France? The tragic deaths of the thousands of civilians in Donbas in 2014-2015 were the fault of Russia.

    Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of
     
    One can be loyal to both.

    Some who spend their lives moving from country to country may be incapable of loyalty to any (may not necessarily be you, just saying).

    Ukraine's and the USA's interests coincide to a large degree: both are better off if the USSR (or something even worse and more dangerous, because it will not be held back by stupid Socialist economics) isn't resurrected by absorbing Ukraine. Both benefit from the "west" of which the USA is a part becoming bigger.

    Personally, I am loyal to and love both the land of my ancestors, and the land where I was born and raised.

    Certainly more loyal than pro-Russian shills who hate their country so they seek Russia as a model or savior. This was once true of anti-American leftists and now is true of anti-American Rightists. They choose their idealized fake image of Russia over their own country.

    Being pro or anti Putin does not define one’s character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does.
     
    Putin kills 10,000s of civilians (over 100,000 if Chechens are included). To be pro-Putin is to support the killing of 10,000s of civilians.

    And in a war of invasion, as Putin did, military deaths of the invaded are little different from civilian deaths. Those Ukrainian guys in uniform should be home with their families, but Putin has killed them on the battlefield.

    He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians
     
    I condemn Putin for the killing of thousands Eastern Ukrainian civilians. We've been over this before but if a police officer shoots back at a robber and kills a bystander, the bystander's death is the robber's fault and not the policeman's.

    However, Trump’s populist and showman tendencies are by no means as “Latin American” as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported.
     
    Giving legal immunity to a criminal because he is famous or running for office is actually very much un-American.

    I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I’m sure we’ve discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans.
     
    I support curbing LatAm immigration, which is what Trump prevented when he shut down the compromise deal made by both parties.

    But trying to shut down such immigration via the election of a LatAm style corrupt caudillo is hardly a solution.
    , @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    Re: https://kyivindependent.com/navalnys-posthumous-memoir-falls-short-on-ukraine/

    She believes in a collective guilt of Russians but not among Ukes within Kiev regime controlled Ukraine. I don't support collective guilt.

  562. @songbird
    @Mikel

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US. But that the Jamaican-Indian Harris is the most loyal of all.

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP's stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can't be about territoriality.

    And yet, if he is for Galicia specifically, it is hard to understand why he wouldn't embrace the candidate who seems more inclined to support a peace deal or a freeze in the conflict (I.e. Trump.)

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly. It is not obvious to me that he has thought through a realistic end to the conflict, and doesn't want unconditional US support for a continuous war, until Russia surrenders, which seems quite unlikely.

    Replies: @AP, @Matra, @Mikel

    I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying

    Maybe AP just likes long tedious arguments on the internet. For some people it’s a hobby.

  563. @Mikel
    @AP


    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.
    ...
    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.
     
    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That's what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being "Putin agents". Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.
     
    Imagine the horror. If that doesn't prove treason, what does?

    I don't share Matra's feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.
     
    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123's dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It's not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one's character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump's populist and showman tendencies are by no means as "Latin American" as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.
     
    You shouldn't take my reminders that you're voting for Kamala too personally. I don't care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I'm sure we've discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don't you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    Replies: @Matra, @A123, @AP, @Mikhail

    I don’t share Matra’s feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs

    Some people very close to me are Slavs too; as in, the same household! Either Czechs are just different or being raised in Sweden has a Westernising effect.

    For the record, to me the worst people coming out of this war are the three Baltic chihuahuas, none of whom are Slavs. Just yesterday I listened to part of a podcast during which an Estonian academic at the University of Toronto expressed dismay at Estonia’s national TV network for reporting on Trump as though he were a “legitimate” candidate. (As if it matters to the outcome of the election what Estonian media say about it). On the same panel a Latvian complained that there is one (yes, only one) member of the Latvian parliament who has expressed support for Trump’s populism. Let’s just say the last two years have put to rest any pretense that Baltic opposition to the USSR was due to love of democracy, pluralism, freedom or any of the other words that people in the Baltics clearly don’t give a damn about. Being against Russia for nationalist reasons is understandable but for some reason they and other Eastern Europeans can’t seem to accept that their nationalism is particular, not universal.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Matra


    Some people very close to me are Slavs too
     
    Sorry. Now that you say that, I don't actually remember you talking about Slavs. It was probably EEs instead. What you said sounded reasonable in any case. I have plenty of sympathy for Slavs (especially Poles) but I know very little of what's going on in Europe these days.

    Very interesting comments in the X video that you posted btw. It looks like the problem with immigrants abusing food banks is more widespread than I imagined and lots of people in Canada seem to share my wife's reaction of not donating to them. I am not sure that this is the best approach to institutions that have done so much good for such a long time but people leading these charities need to be made aware that they are being fooled. I guess it's a combination of naivete and some level of wokism among these charity administrators: 'non-Whites deserve a little more to atone for our past sins'. At any rate, as one of the commenters said, abusing food banks when you are not in need is outright stealing from the poor. It doesn't take a very high IQ at all to understand what food banks are for. I'm sure the migrants I know abusing them understand it perfectly but they steal anyway. Not necessarily because they are evil people who would consciously do something bad to anyone. It's just because it's in their culture: if you don't rush to get the freebies you're a loser.

    Replies: @AP

  564. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight. I know the truth is more complicated, but my version is funnier. It would be really cool if they had to harvest it from Gila Monsters. Then there would be a huge black market dedicated to raising the lizards.

    Speaking of Ron, I wonder if there are many people who are disinterested in the nutrition industry because it reminds them of Kosher or halal food restrictions? Also, I wonder if there are strident Jewish nutritionists (observant) who simply think they are doing G-d's work, circa 2024?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight.

    America isn’t that impressive when it comes to venomous animals.

    But there is a lot of untapped biopotential in platypus venom and in Aussie animals generally.

    Imagine some combination that could make Lizzo not just lose 200 kg but actually seem attractive.

    It could be there, lurking in the inland taipain. (one bite can kill 100 people). Or in some three-part combination of the venom of the tiger and mulga snakes, titrated to make the death adder beneficial.

    Didn’t Medusa have snakes for hair? What if it was a beauty treatment and she had the right idea, but the wrong snakes?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I observed snake behavior around a month ago I had never seen or heard about. I was off in weeds to take a dump and looking for a stick. I thought I spotted an ideal specimen, 18 inches long, 3/4 inches diameter. Reached down to pick it up. When my hand was about 5 inches away I noticed it was a snake. It's head and tail were completely below the earth and it was moving about as fast as the minute hand on a clock.

    This is either not a common documented behavior or I found a snake gone bonkers. I did not hang around there for very long. I am not a snake-ologist.

    https://images.artbrokerage.com/artthumb/avedon_159543_1/625x559/Richard_Avedon_Nastassja_Kinski_and_the_Serpent_1981_HS_.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

  565. @AP
    @Vishnugupta

    Christians were traditionally integrated as a higher caste in Kerala because they were descended from people of higher caste who were converted ~1500 years ago. Ricebag probably refers to those who converted recently; interestingly, these recent converts from lower castes were considered to be Untouchable by the traditional Christians.

    (I had once worked with a colleague who was from a traditional Christian family from Kerala).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_South_Asian_Christians



    The Saint Thomas Christians claim to derive status within the caste system from the tradition that they were elites who were evangelized by Thomas the Apostle.[20][21][22] Anand Amaladass says that "The Syrian Christians had inserted themselves within the Indian caste society for centuries and were regarded by the Hindus as a caste occupying a high place within their caste hierarchy."[23] Saint Thomas Christians followed the same rules of caste and pollution as that of Hindus and they were considered as pollution neutralizers.[20][24] Rajendra Prasad, an Indian historian, said that the Syrian Christians took ritual baths after physical contact with lower castes.

    In the colonial period, many lower castes were converted to Christians by the European Missionaries but the new converts were not allowed to join the Saint Thomas Christian community and they continued to be considered as untouchables even by the Syrian Christians.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Yes.Christianity entered Kerela a few centuries before Europe and Kerela Christians have a very different identity than others converted by Europeans.

    Quite a few Kerela Christians are staunch BJP/RSS supporters.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Vishnugupta

    When I hear Kerala I think communism, not Christianity.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  566. @A123
    @QCIC


    The Haitian issue is a great litmus test and does not depend on how many pets they are eating.

    The US government and NGOs bringing in large groups of unassimilable Haitian people into small US communities is obviously bad. It is so bad there is little chance the process is accidental.
     

    Of course. Everyone with deep knowledge knew that some time ago. The problem is that did not change policy. The trick was communicating to & impacting those who have little knowledge or interest.

    Memes are an effective, high value tool to reach this normally less than engaged group. Repeat a concise and compelling message enough times, and it obtains mental traction. Those triggered by and who deride images like this want open borders.

     
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/10/21/89460495-13835395-Another_AI_generated_image_shows_Trump_holding_a_cat_and_a_duck_-a-30_1725998741330.jpg
     

    The other big one was Governor Abbott's plan the to encourage voluntarily intra-U.S. moves to Sanctuary Cities in Sanctuary States. It was easy for NIMBY locations like Chicago and NYC to support an open Southern border. Now that it is directly impacting their residents, they are no longer enthusiastic about it.

    How many can Trump's 2nd term remigrate? And, how quickly? His administration will have opportunities. Alas, the judicial obstacles are formidable. However, Trump can re-impose Title 42 "Stay in Mexico" early on due to dangerous strains of communicable TB.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    A Harris Presidency Is the Only Way to Stay Ahead of A.I.
    Thomas Friedman
    NY Times
    29 Oct

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/opinion/artificial-intelligence-harris-trump-election.html

    No paywall: https://archive.ph/1E80r#selection-649.0-649.57

    • LOL: A123
  567. @Mikel
    @AP


    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.
    ...
    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.
     
    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That's what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being "Putin agents". Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.
     
    Imagine the horror. If that doesn't prove treason, what does?

    I don't share Matra's feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.
     
    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123's dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It's not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one's character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump's populist and showman tendencies are by no means as "Latin American" as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.
     
    You shouldn't take my reminders that you're voting for Kamala too personally. I don't care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I'm sure we've discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don't you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    Replies: @Matra, @A123, @AP, @Mikhail

    I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123

    Mikel.

    Everyone expects malicious attacks from you. Do you not see that calling me “pro-Putin” is very misleading? Why do you go for such degenerate DNC deception when you know it will not work?

    As I have made clear many, many, many times… I understand that open border Globalists, such as yourself, want a Forever War in Ukraine. Your goal is actually migration, not Ukie victory. Genuine Ukrainian refugees undercut the wages of native European workers. And, probably over 1/3 of the total migrants are MENA and sub-Saharan Muslims on forged identify documents.

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die? Your Anti-Christian blood lust is an admission of immorality.

    Why do you hate Jews and Christians in Europe?

    Your support for the Great Muslim Replacement is yet another #NeverMAGA cult position on your part. Those of us who seek an end to the conflict are still looking for a negotiated deal. Sadly, your Führer Zelensky is run by Islamophile SJW Globalist elites, and will not negotiate in good faith.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die?

    They would not be dead if Putin had stayed in his borders. The easiest way for the war to end would be for the Russians to go home.

    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?

    Replies: @A123, @YetAnotherAnon

  568. @songbird
    @QCIC


    Ozempic makes me smile every day when I imagine these people are injecting lizard venom to lose weight.
     
    America isn't that impressive when it comes to venomous animals.

    But there is a lot of untapped biopotential in platypus venom and in Aussie animals generally.

    Imagine some combination that could make Lizzo not just lose 200 kg but actually seem attractive.

    It could be there, lurking in the inland taipain. (one bite can kill 100 people). Or in some three-part combination of the venom of the tiger and mulga snakes, titrated to make the death adder beneficial.

    Didn't Medusa have snakes for hair? What if it was a beauty treatment and she had the right idea, but the wrong snakes?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    I observed snake behavior around a month ago I had never seen or heard about. I was off in weeds to take a dump and looking for a stick. I thought I spotted an ideal specimen, 18 inches long, 3/4 inches diameter. Reached down to pick it up. When my hand was about 5 inches away I noticed it was a snake. It’s head and tail were completely below the earth and it was moving about as fast as the minute hand on a clock.

    This is either not a common documented behavior or I found a snake gone bonkers. I did not hang around there for very long. I am not a snake-ologist.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Saw a coyote today. About mid afternoon. Was surprised as I had never seen one at that time of day so close to the urban core. Wouldn't be surprised, if tomorrow it was eating candy left out for kids.

  569. @Vishnugupta
    @AP

    Yes.Christianity entered Kerela a few centuries before Europe and Kerela Christians have a very different identity than others converted by Europeans.

    Quite a few Kerela Christians are staunch BJP/RSS supporters.

    Replies: @Matra

    When I hear Kerala I think communism, not Christianity.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Matra

    Its a dysfunctional state.roughly 1/3 Hindu 1/3 Muslim and 1/3 Christian.

    Communist Party is now only present as a significant force in this state having been wiped out from West Bengal in the preceeding decades..

    Still Christians and Hindus are allies against Muslims in this state..

    Which neatly fits with the Hindu Nationalist narrative of all Christian converts outside Kerela are disloyal sellouts being genetically descended from people mostly illiterate peasants who converted for things like a sack of rice..

  570. @AP
    @QCIC


    It looks like the Russians needed a really secure facility to store and destroy the confiscated pathogens illegally developed in the US-funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine
     
    There you go again. Up has to be down and down has to be up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

    Expecting Washington Post to give you some balanced unbiased position on Russia is really naive. Do you know that “deep throat” never existed and was concocted by dishonest Washington Post journalists to sell more paper. The anti-Russian position is analogous to their anti-Nixon campaign.

  571. @QCIC
    @sudden death

    The West saw the denuclearization of Ukraine and recovery or destruction of Soviet weapons in other FSU countries as an essential part of weakening the Superpower entity formerly known as the Soviet Union and before that the Russian Empire. The worst case in their minds would be Ukraine and Russia coexisting peacefully and having a mutual security alliance to protect themselves from the West.

    This excerpt is very confused, I wonder what Stephen Cohen wrote at the time? Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.

    Around 1990 there was a widely held belief in the Western security establishment that "Star Wars" missile defense was the direct cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion is that the US had a massive lead in the technology which gave the USA an unassailable advantage over the USSR and broke the MAD stalemate. Russia feared this and tried to keep up, wrecking her fragile economy in the process. In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare. However, many influential military and strategic people seem to believe the Star Wars fantasy story. Eventually it became known that the technologies do not work. Then anti-ballistic missiles became popular again. Gulf War I showed that they don't work very well. However, the idea was always to get ahead of the Russians and break the MAD stalemate. Around 2000 the Russians figured this out and have been gradually rebuilding.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123, @John Johnson

    In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare.

    Economic warfare?

    So Marxism would have worked if not for those damned Western kids and their capitalism?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't really understand the details, but the process of collapsing the USSR has been discussed here at Unz. I am no fan of Marxism, but most countries are mixed economies. I wish the USA embraced and protected individual freedom now as much as it did in 1991.

  572. @A123
    @Mikel


    I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123
     
    Mikel.

    Everyone expects malicious attacks from you. Do you not see that calling me "pro-Putin" is very misleading? Why do you go for such degenerate DNC deception when you know it will not work?

    As I have made clear many, many, many times... I understand that open border Globalists, such as yourself, want a Forever War in Ukraine. Your goal is actually migration, not Ukie victory. Genuine Ukrainian refugees undercut the wages of native European workers. And, probably over 1/3 of the total migrants are MENA and sub-Saharan Muslims on forged identify documents.

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die? Your Anti-Christian blood lust is an admission of immorality.

    Why do you hate Jews and Christians in Europe?

    Your support for the Great Muslim Replacement is yet another #NeverMAGA cult position on your part. Those of us who seek an end to the conflict are still looking for a negotiated deal. Sadly, your Führer Zelensky is run by Islamophile SJW Globalist elites, and will not negotiate in good faith.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die?

    They would not be dead if Putin had stayed in his borders. The easiest way for the war to end would be for the Russians to go home.

    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?
     
    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died. Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    At this point, the obvious way to end the fighting is negotiating a new workable border. And, preventing Kiev from arming up to restart this again. No NATO ever, No Nukes. No foreign troops.

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022. Kiev's mistaken trust in Merkel, and the rest of the European Empire, made the current fight inevitable.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "So you would agree that the war was a mistake?"

    No, it was deliberate US policy. Obviously they'd have preferred Russia to accept the fait accompli in 2014 - "to subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of statemanship" - but they were happy to fight to the last Ukrainian, sunder Russia and Germany - it all looked really good in summer 2002.

    Now, it looks more as if the United States policy towards Russia is the beginning of the end of US world hegemony.

    I hadn't realised until I read Eamonn Fingleton's book how close China and Japan are - the spats over WW2 and the Senkakus being mostly for US consumption. China will keep stringing the US along, as Chinese strength grows and US strength declines - but if and when the US ever wakes up and confronts China, it may find Japan on their side. They may never wake up of course.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  573. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    In regards to Assad, would whoever replaces him actually be better or worse than he himself is? Because Tsar Nicholas II was also viewed as atrocious but he was still a saint in comparison to what came later.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Gaddaffi in Libya was a damn sight better than any Libyan leader before or since. He used the oil and gas money to bring fresh water to his people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River

    He wasn’t a very nice guy in some ways. But in countries like Syria and Libya, nice guys don’t get to be leaders.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    In the 600 or so comments on the Unz post on insane Israel there wasn't one person who brought up the old Thomas Friedman banana

    Is Iraq that way because of Saddam or is Saddam that way because of Iraq?

    It is an excellent point except western war mongers don't have a right to ask it.

    Replies: @A123

  574. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die?

    They would not be dead if Putin had stayed in his borders. The easiest way for the war to end would be for the Russians to go home.

    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?

    Replies: @A123, @YetAnotherAnon

    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?

    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died. Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    At this point, the obvious way to end the fighting is negotiating a new workable border. And, preventing Kiev from arming up to restart this again. No NATO ever, No Nukes. No foreign troops.

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022. Kiev’s mistaken trust in Merkel, and the rest of the European Empire, made the current fight inevitable.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    Which empire are you referring to?

    Are you saying that Putin was forced to invade a neighboring country?

    That does in fact sound like Putin defending.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died.

    Minsk 1 was first broken by Russia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

    Why didn't Putin invade up to DPR/LPR demarcation lines if it was about Minsk?

    Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    Which year was that?

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022.

    In what ways were they aggressive during Zelensky's presidency?

    Replies: @Catiline

  575. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Ukrainians & Russians are suffering in your unwinnable war. Why do you demand that youths on both sides must die?

    They would not be dead if Putin had stayed in his borders. The easiest way for the war to end would be for the Russians to go home.

    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?

    Replies: @A123, @YetAnotherAnon

    “So you would agree that the war was a mistake?”

    No, it was deliberate US policy. Obviously they’d have preferred Russia to accept the fait accompli in 2014 – “to subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of statemanship” – but they were happy to fight to the last Ukrainian, sunder Russia and Germany – it all looked really good in summer 2002.

    Now, it looks more as if the United States policy towards Russia is the beginning of the end of US world hegemony.

    I hadn’t realised until I read Eamonn Fingleton’s book how close China and Japan are – the spats over WW2 and the Senkakus being mostly for US consumption. China will keep stringing the US along, as Chinese strength grows and US strength declines – but if and when the US ever wakes up and confronts China, it may find Japan on their side. They may never wake up of course.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    What has happened with Fingleton, he used to be on the Peter Myers mailing list that I was on twenty years ago, I suppose he might have passed away.

    Long given up on trying to understand Japan, an enigma.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  576. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    In this view Russia broke itself. In a more subtle view, this is seen as successful Western economic warfare against Russia. In reality this was just cover for Western economic warfare.

    Economic warfare?

    So Marxism would have worked if not for those damned Western kids and their capitalism?

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t really understand the details, but the process of collapsing the USSR has been discussed here at Unz. I am no fan of Marxism, but most countries are mixed economies. I wish the USA embraced and protected individual freedom now as much as it did in 1991.

  577. @Matra
    @Vishnugupta

    When I hear Kerala I think communism, not Christianity.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Its a dysfunctional state.roughly 1/3 Hindu 1/3 Muslim and 1/3 Christian.

    Communist Party is now only present as a significant force in this state having been wiped out from West Bengal in the preceeding decades..

    Still Christians and Hindus are allies against Muslims in this state..

    Which neatly fits with the Hindu Nationalist narrative of all Christian converts outside Kerela are disloyal sellouts being genetically descended from people mostly illiterate peasants who converted for things like a sack of rice..

  578. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. XYZ

    Gaddaffi in Libya was a damn sight better than any Libyan leader before or since. He used the oil and gas money to bring fresh water to his people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River


    He wasn't a very nice guy in some ways. But in countries like Syria and Libya, nice guys don't get to be leaders.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    In the 600 or so comments on the Unz post on insane Israel there wasn’t one person who brought up the old Thomas Friedman banana

    Is Iraq that way because of Saddam or is Saddam that way because of Iraq?

    It is an excellent point except western war mongers don’t have a right to ask it.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    In the 600 or so comments on the Unz post on insane Israel there wasn’t one person who brought up the old Thomas Friedman banana

    Is Iraq that way because of Saddam or is Saddam that way because of Iraq?
     

    Palestinian Jews are 100% sane. They are using the minimum necessary force to deal with existential threats to their survival.

    How did we get here? Lets look at the record.

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuIaCPwDVflrt9TPrtRD0zTCVWt_sSkfXaGpX4OmlXtPNSnxntFuzvLbdEqtHOA-UCVCfD60xC7VfiokKG-_sL-ynUTD4FHz9I8w1xBSjXiXQpRWX_-MHkbR8tnSUpe-GrSVCi6mxd-qYohbhWKDZMkTVz4-9RD_1Fz2IGNSZMdBvCyQcCtIIc/s1202/GAc5OAPXsAAbd6r.jpg
     

    The original plan for Zionism was a place for Jews. When Israel formed it was not a "Jewish State".

    But this was too much for insane Jihadists to bear. Muslims chose violent intolerance over, and over, and over again. Every cycle of Islamic aggression brought more restrictions. Now it is too late. The need for self defense has welded Palestinian Jews into an official "Jewish State".
    ____

    There is a clear parallel. The violence by Ukie/Pali malcontents is externally supported. Without those funds, their ability to keep going is quite limited. They will have to yield when that cash ends. Eliminating the UNRWA dole is a sane and long over due action by Palestinian Jews.

    Kiev will have to give up land as penance for their aggression. Fortunately, Ukraine is geographically huge. There is plenty of land for both sides, with an opportunity for a DMZ.

    The Muslim Occupiers of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will also have to give up land as penance for 1,400 years of Jihadist aggression. This implies that at least some Muslim colonies will have to disband. The current inhabitants, did not ask to be born squatting on Jewish & Christian lands. The clear answer is honourable and compensated return to authentic Muslim lands. Iran and Qatar perhaps?

    PEACE 😇

  579. @emil nikola richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    In the 600 or so comments on the Unz post on insane Israel there wasn't one person who brought up the old Thomas Friedman banana

    Is Iraq that way because of Saddam or is Saddam that way because of Iraq?

    It is an excellent point except western war mongers don't have a right to ask it.

    Replies: @A123

    In the 600 or so comments on the Unz post on insane Israel there wasn’t one person who brought up the old Thomas Friedman banana

    Is Iraq that way because of Saddam or is Saddam that way because of Iraq?

    Palestinian Jews are 100% sane. They are using the minimum necessary force to deal with existential threats to their survival.

    How did we get here? Lets look at the record.

      

    The original plan for Zionism was a place for Jews. When Israel formed it was not a “Jewish State”.

    But this was too much for insane Jihadists to bear. Muslims chose violent intolerance over, and over, and over again. Every cycle of Islamic aggression brought more restrictions. Now it is too late. The need for self defense has welded Palestinian Jews into an official “Jewish State”.
    ____

    There is a clear parallel. The violence by Ukie/Pali malcontents is externally supported. Without those funds, their ability to keep going is quite limited. They will have to yield when that cash ends. Eliminating the UNRWA dole is a sane and long over due action by Palestinian Jews.

    Kiev will have to give up land as penance for their aggression. Fortunately, Ukraine is geographically huge. There is plenty of land for both sides, with an opportunity for a DMZ.

    The Muslim Occupiers of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will also have to give up land as penance for 1,400 years of Jihadist aggression. This implies that at least some Muslim colonies will have to disband. The current inhabitants, did not ask to be born squatting on Jewish & Christian lands. The clear answer is honourable and compensated return to authentic Muslim lands. Iran and Qatar perhaps?

    PEACE 😇

  580. @songbird
    @AP


    Where did I use the word traitor?
     
    "Agent" is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.

    Frankly, your labeling of Musk as a Chinese agent seems very strange to me. He is nearly the only one pushing the envelope on spacelaunch, and there are probably about a dozen Chinese companies rushing to play catch-up. All behind for now, but eventually a few will catch up. Esp. the more Musk is villainized.

    >He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine

    Where did I claim that?
     
    Didn't you say they all have AIDS and are poor, or something? Oh, I see - you were talking about Russians in Ukraine. But it is still puzzling why you don't seem to support a freeze.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).
     
    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don't think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon - tiny rockets).

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn't actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms. I don't think it maps very well onto what other countries want.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes? Does the American public want to go to war against a nuclear power, or to strike it with long range conventionals via a proxy?

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine. One realistically with more disastrous consequences as it would involve migration both away from the nation and from the Global South as a mass source input for replacement.

    Replies: @AP

    Where did I use the word traitor?

    “Agent” is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.

    You claimed I “consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US.” No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath, who knows his motivations – maybe trying to torment his son (his son has volunteered to fight for Ukraine).

    Second, the ones who want to cut Ukraine off are not advocates for peace, no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.” They are rather an advocate for the war being a much more bloody guerilla war.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).

    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don’t think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon – tiny rockets).

    South Korea didn’t get nukes because it has an alliance with the USA and US troops on its soil. They were unnecessary. But it does have a nuke program and can produce nukes within months if doing so becomes necessary. Germany was in NATO. Ukraine will either have some sort of alliance guaranteeing its security, or a strong native deterrent such as nukes (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities). If Ukraine exists it will secure itself in some way. And in order for Ukraine to cease to exist, Russia will have to conquer the whole thing. Very unlikely. So in the long term it will be either NATO or some other guarantee, or nukes or some other military deterrent.

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn’t actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one

    Indeed. NATO membership would deter Russia from attacking Ukraine. That’s the point of it. And such a deterrence would make it unnecessary for Ukraine to get its own nukes.

    If you don’t support that, you want war. I don’t want war.

    Baltics haven’t had war because they are in NATO. Georgia and Ukraine, not in NATO, had wars. It’s simple.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms.

    Russia need not collapse to figure out that it can’t conquer all of Ukraine (or even half of it) and to eventually accept that the parts of Ukraine it cannot control will either secure their safety via an alliance or via nukes.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes?

    This is what the response will be to American weakness and Russian aggression.

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine.

    I support helping Ukraine prevent this conventional war from becoming a much deadlier guerilla war. You think that USA cutting Ukraine off will result in Ukraine surrendering and exposing its people to murderers, rapists and looters? No, it will still fight with others’ help. But fighting might get into cities and casualties might be in the multiple 100,000s or over a million. Little Chechnya had about 150,000 dead. Ukraine is several times larger.

    If you really didn’t want an endless war you would have supported Ukraine getting everything it needed to stop Russia sooner. Did you? If not, you wanted a long war. That seems to be what Biden wanted, although his softness may have led to this point inadvertently.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    You claimed I “consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US.” No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath
     
    Surely, a psychopath enmeshed in a den of traitors would be traitor too? Doesn't it take psychopathy to be a traitor?

    no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.
     
    This seems bizarre rhetoric from someone who thinks the USSR is some great hobgoblin and who no doubt laments Katyn.

    Seems like adapting yourself to the narrative. In 1940, after Katyn, and the Holodomor, would you really have been promoting that the US prop up Stalin with millions of tons of supplies? Frankly, the idea is absurd.

    Germany was in NATO
     
    Bad example. There were already US bases in West Germany, before it joined.

    (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities)
     
    some of those Chinese drone light shows are pretty impressive. I'd be very surprised, if money wasn't being deliberately funneled to them as a dual use technology for potential military applications.

    That said, for Ukraine it sounds like a wunderwaffe. They don't have the indigenous tech, and I doubt if anyone would be so foolish to give them it, if there was someone with it. Corruption would mean they would sell it.

    Replies: @AP

  581. @Matra
    @Mikel

    I don’t share Matra’s feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs

    Some people very close to me are Slavs too; as in, the same household! Either Czechs are just different or being raised in Sweden has a Westernising effect.

    For the record, to me the worst people coming out of this war are the three Baltic chihuahuas, none of whom are Slavs. Just yesterday I listened to part of a podcast during which an Estonian academic at the University of Toronto expressed dismay at Estonia's national TV network for reporting on Trump as though he were a "legitimate" candidate. (As if it matters to the outcome of the election what Estonian media say about it). On the same panel a Latvian complained that there is one (yes, only one) member of the Latvian parliament who has expressed support for Trump's populism. Let's just say the last two years have put to rest any pretense that Baltic opposition to the USSR was due to love of democracy, pluralism, freedom or any of the other words that people in the Baltics clearly don't give a damn about. Being against Russia for nationalist reasons is understandable but for some reason they and other Eastern Europeans can't seem to accept that their nationalism is particular, not universal.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Some people very close to me are Slavs too

    Sorry. Now that you say that, I don’t actually remember you talking about Slavs. It was probably EEs instead. What you said sounded reasonable in any case. I have plenty of sympathy for Slavs (especially Poles) but I know very little of what’s going on in Europe these days.

    Very interesting comments in the X video that you posted btw. It looks like the problem with immigrants abusing food banks is more widespread than I imagined and lots of people in Canada seem to share my wife’s reaction of not donating to them. I am not sure that this is the best approach to institutions that have done so much good for such a long time but people leading these charities need to be made aware that they are being fooled. I guess it’s a combination of naivete and some level of wokism among these charity administrators: ‘non-Whites deserve a little more to atone for our past sins’. At any rate, as one of the commenters said, abusing food banks when you are not in need is outright stealing from the poor. It doesn’t take a very high IQ at all to understand what food banks are for. I’m sure the migrants I know abusing them understand it perfectly but they steal anyway. Not necessarily because they are evil people who would consciously do something bad to anyone. It’s just because it’s in their culture: if you don’t rush to get the freebies you’re a loser.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel

    When I was at the Polish-Ukrainian border in April 2022 when the war had just started there was a problem with local Polish villagers coming and taking the free stuff that was meant for Ukrainian refugees that were streaming across. The aid workers very much considered it to be theft, not only from the refugees, but from the donors who had given the stuff for the purpose of helping the refugees.

  582. Trump’s team has great instincts and the ability to set-up effective events quickly.

    Biden called Trump voters garbage (1). What does the highly effective Trump campaign do?

     

     

    Biden’s gaffe created two big positive days for TRUMP 2024. It drowned out Harris’s messaging at a critical point when early votes are being cast daily.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-calls-80-million-americans-human-garbage-after-comedian-sparks-mass-triggering

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Donald the Fat is no more capable of pushing and pulling a full dumpster around than is Willie Brown's skank ho. Those guys (all are guys) are in top physical condition.

    Replies: @A123

  583. @A123
    @John Johnson


    So you would agree that the war was a mistake?
     
    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died. Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    At this point, the obvious way to end the fighting is negotiating a new workable border. And, preventing Kiev from arming up to restart this again. No NATO ever, No Nukes. No foreign troops.

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022. Kiev's mistaken trust in Merkel, and the rest of the European Empire, made the current fight inevitable.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    Which empire are you referring to?

    Are you saying that Putin was forced to invade a neighboring country?

    That does in fact sound like Putin defending.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died.

    Minsk 1 was first broken by Russia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

    Why didn’t Putin invade up to DPR/LPR demarcation lines if it was about Minsk?

    Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    Which year was that?

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022.

    In what ways were they aggressive during Zelensky’s presidency?

    • Replies: @Catiline
    @John Johnson

    John, need some help. Ran across an asshole who insists that Russia legally owned the missiles given up by Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum and that Russia possessed the nuclear codes rendering them useless otherwise. I have no ready answer to any of this. Can you address this matter here please? Possibly with links? Thanks. (He's a real winner, goes on about natoexpansionmaidancoupvictorianuland etc etc etc every time the subject comes up.)

  584. @Mikel
    @AP


    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.
    ...
    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.
     
    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That's what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being "Putin agents". Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.
     
    Imagine the horror. If that doesn't prove treason, what does?

    I don't share Matra's feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.
     
    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123's dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It's not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one's character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump's populist and showman tendencies are by no means as "Latin American" as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.
     
    You shouldn't take my reminders that you're voting for Kamala too personally. I don't care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I'm sure we've discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don't you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    Replies: @Matra, @A123, @AP, @Mikhail

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel.

    Ukraine has not made actions worthy of nearly as much criticism as Israel has done.

    That’s what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land

    We did. We condemned Russia for doing it. Ukraine was shooting back.

    How many French condemn the Western allies for the ~20,000 French civilians killed in the process of expelling the Germans from France? The tragic deaths of the thousands of civilians in Donbas in 2014-2015 were the fault of Russia.

    Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of

    One can be loyal to both.

    Some who spend their lives moving from country to country may be incapable of loyalty to any (may not necessarily be you, just saying).

    Ukraine’s and the USA’s interests coincide to a large degree: both are better off if the USSR (or something even worse and more dangerous, because it will not be held back by stupid Socialist economics) isn’t resurrected by absorbing Ukraine. Both benefit from the “west” of which the USA is a part becoming bigger.

    Personally, I am loyal to and love both the land of my ancestors, and the land where I was born and raised.

    Certainly more loyal than pro-Russian shills who hate their country so they seek Russia as a model or savior. This was once true of anti-American leftists and now is true of anti-American Rightists. They choose their idealized fake image of Russia over their own country.

    Being pro or anti Putin does not define one’s character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does.

    Putin kills 10,000s of civilians (over 100,000 if Chechens are included). To be pro-Putin is to support the killing of 10,000s of civilians.

    And in a war of invasion, as Putin did, military deaths of the invaded are little different from civilian deaths. Those Ukrainian guys in uniform should be home with their families, but Putin has killed them on the battlefield.

    He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians

    I condemn Putin for the killing of thousands Eastern Ukrainian civilians. We’ve been over this before but if a police officer shoots back at a robber and kills a bystander, the bystander’s death is the robber’s fault and not the policeman’s.

    However, Trump’s populist and showman tendencies are by no means as “Latin American” as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported.

    Giving legal immunity to a criminal because he is famous or running for office is actually very much un-American.

    I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I’m sure we’ve discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans.

    I support curbing LatAm immigration, which is what Trump prevented when he shut down the compromise deal made by both parties.

    But trying to shut down such immigration via the election of a LatAm style corrupt caudillo is hardly a solution.

  585. @Mikel
    @Matra


    Some people very close to me are Slavs too
     
    Sorry. Now that you say that, I don't actually remember you talking about Slavs. It was probably EEs instead. What you said sounded reasonable in any case. I have plenty of sympathy for Slavs (especially Poles) but I know very little of what's going on in Europe these days.

    Very interesting comments in the X video that you posted btw. It looks like the problem with immigrants abusing food banks is more widespread than I imagined and lots of people in Canada seem to share my wife's reaction of not donating to them. I am not sure that this is the best approach to institutions that have done so much good for such a long time but people leading these charities need to be made aware that they are being fooled. I guess it's a combination of naivete and some level of wokism among these charity administrators: 'non-Whites deserve a little more to atone for our past sins'. At any rate, as one of the commenters said, abusing food banks when you are not in need is outright stealing from the poor. It doesn't take a very high IQ at all to understand what food banks are for. I'm sure the migrants I know abusing them understand it perfectly but they steal anyway. Not necessarily because they are evil people who would consciously do something bad to anyone. It's just because it's in their culture: if you don't rush to get the freebies you're a loser.

    Replies: @AP

    When I was at the Polish-Ukrainian border in April 2022 when the war had just started there was a problem with local Polish villagers coming and taking the free stuff that was meant for Ukrainian refugees that were streaming across. The aid workers very much considered it to be theft, not only from the refugees, but from the donors who had given the stuff for the purpose of helping the refugees.

  586. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I observed snake behavior around a month ago I had never seen or heard about. I was off in weeds to take a dump and looking for a stick. I thought I spotted an ideal specimen, 18 inches long, 3/4 inches diameter. Reached down to pick it up. When my hand was about 5 inches away I noticed it was a snake. It's head and tail were completely below the earth and it was moving about as fast as the minute hand on a clock.

    This is either not a common documented behavior or I found a snake gone bonkers. I did not hang around there for very long. I am not a snake-ologist.

    https://images.artbrokerage.com/artthumb/avedon_159543_1/625x559/Richard_Avedon_Nastassja_Kinski_and_the_Serpent_1981_HS_.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    Saw a coyote today. About mid afternoon. Was surprised as I had never seen one at that time of day so close to the urban core. Wouldn’t be surprised, if tomorrow it was eating candy left out for kids.

  587. @AP
    @songbird


    Where did I use the word traitor?

    “Agent” is pretty synonymous, and then there is guilt by association.
     
    You claimed I "consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US." No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath, who knows his motivations - maybe trying to torment his son (his son has volunteered to fight for Ukraine).

    Second, the ones who want to cut Ukraine off are not advocates for peace, no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an "advocate for peace." They are rather an advocate for the war being a much more bloody guerilla war.

    will require a deterrent, either in the form of Ukraine being in NATO, or Ukraine with its own deterrent, probably nukes but a huge conventional missile and drone arsenal might do ).

    These things seem really unrealistic to me. I don’t think there is really an historical model for any of them.

    South Korea never got nukes. Germany never got nukes, or space rockets even though they were a pioneer (second may change soon – tiny rockets).
     
    South Korea didn't get nukes because it has an alliance with the USA and US troops on its soil. They were unnecessary. But it does have a nuke program and can produce nukes within months if doing so becomes necessary. Germany was in NATO. Ukraine will either have some sort of alliance guaranteeing its security, or a strong native deterrent such as nukes (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities). If Ukraine exists it will secure itself in some way. And in order for Ukraine to cease to exist, Russia will have to conquer the whole thing. Very unlikely. So in the long term it will be either NATO or some other guarantee, or nukes or some other military deterrent.

    For all their belligerence, NATO doesn’t actually seem like an organization that wants to draft troops to send against Russia.

    The ostensible point of an alliance is to discourage war, not get yourself into one
     
    Indeed. NATO membership would deter Russia from attacking Ukraine. That's the point of it. And such a deterrence would make it unnecessary for Ukraine to get its own nukes.

    If you don't support that, you want war. I don't want war.

    Baltics haven't had war because they are in NATO. Georgia and Ukraine, not in NATO, had wars. It's simple.

    Everything you want almost seems to presuppose some Russian collapse, where Ukraine makes the terms.
     
    Russia need not collapse to figure out that it can't conquer all of Ukraine (or even half of it) and to eventually accept that the parts of Ukraine it cannot control will either secure their safety via an alliance or via nukes.

    Does the US or Russia really want every country in Europe to have its own nukes?
     
    This is what the response will be to American weakness and Russian aggression.

    You denounced WWI as being caused by nationalism (not accurate, IMO) but seem to be promoting an endless war in Ukraine.
     
    I support helping Ukraine prevent this conventional war from becoming a much deadlier guerilla war. You think that USA cutting Ukraine off will result in Ukraine surrendering and exposing its people to murderers, rapists and looters? No, it will still fight with others' help. But fighting might get into cities and casualties might be in the multiple 100,000s or over a million. Little Chechnya had about 150,000 dead. Ukraine is several times larger.

    If you really didn't want an endless war you would have supported Ukraine getting everything it needed to stop Russia sooner. Did you? If not, you wanted a long war. That seems to be what Biden wanted, although his softness may have led to this point inadvertently.

    Replies: @songbird

    You claimed I “consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US.” No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath

    Surely, a psychopath enmeshed in a den of traitors would be traitor too? Doesn’t it take psychopathy to be a traitor?

    [MORE]

    no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.

    This seems bizarre rhetoric from someone who thinks the USSR is some great hobgoblin and who no doubt laments Katyn.

    Seems like adapting yourself to the narrative. In 1940, after Katyn, and the Holodomor, would you really have been promoting that the US prop up Stalin with millions of tons of supplies? Frankly, the idea is absurd.

    Germany was in NATO

    Bad example. There were already US bases in West Germany, before it joined.

    (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities)

    some of those Chinese drone light shows are pretty impressive. I’d be very surprised, if money wasn’t being deliberately funneled to them as a dual use technology for potential military applications.

    That said, for Ukraine it sounds like a wunderwaffe. They don’t have the indigenous tech, and I doubt if anyone would be so foolish to give them it, if there was someone with it. Corruption would mean they would sell it.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.

    This seems bizarre rhetoric from someone who thinks the USSR is some great hobgoblin and who no doubt laments Katyn.
     
    Hitler was even worse.

    And you are trying to change the subject.

    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not "pro peace." It is "pro invader", "pro occupation" and "pro bloody guerilla war."

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now.

    Germany was in NATO

    Bad example. There were already US bases in West Germany, before it joined.
     
    Which further supports my point.

    Germany didn't need its own nukes because it had lots of Americans based on its soil. If Ukraine gets a similar deal (or NATO) it, too, won't need its own nukes and/or some other deterrent.

    (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities)

    some of those Chinese drone light shows are pretty impressive. I’d be very surprised, if money wasn’t being deliberately funneled to them as a dual use technology for potential military applications.

    That said, for Ukraine it sounds like a wunderwaffe. They don’t have the indigenous tech,
     
    If you mean certain components such as chips they do not produce them themselves (Chinese and Russians also use Western parts like that). But they have their own highly skilled researchers and innovators. Ukraine is a major technological R & D center - they are creating their own AI for drones (rendering them immune to jamming because they "think" and kill without an operator) and doing things that the haven't done yet. War can really spur innovation. Ukraine's domestic drones are now more effective and much cheaper than Western ones. Their massive use by Ukraine probably contributes to the much-improved casualty ratio.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraines-innovative-drone-industry-helps-counter-putins-war-machine/

    The growth of Ukraine’s domestic drone industry over the past two years has been striking, with more than 200 drone-manufacturing companies created. The Ukrainian authorities have allocated $2 billion for the production of drones in 2024, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy setting an annual production target of one million FPV drones.

    Ukraine’s leaders hope more drones will mean less reliance on traditional munitions and fewer casualties. “We don’t have as many human resources as Russia. They fight, they die, they send more people, they don’t care, but that’s not how we see war,” commented Alex Bornyakov, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation.



    A key element in Ukraine’s drone strategy is the BRAVE1 initiative, a government-led defense tech cluster established in spring 2023 to streamline cooperation between the public and private sectors. This cluster has helped numerous companies cut through red tape, speeding up the implementation of new technologies to support Ukraine’s defense.

    The race to innovate is relentless, with Ukraine’s steadily improving drone capabilities mirrored by Russia’s own rapidly expanding electronic warfare arsenal. Ukrainian engineers are now attempting to overcome the Kremlin’s increasingly sophisticated jamming efforts by embedding artificial intelligence (AI) technologies into drones. This innovation has already played a part in Kyiv’s long-range drone strike campaign against Russia’s energy industry, with CNN reporting that Ukraine has employed AI-enabled drones to hit targets as far away as Russia’s Tatarstan region, well over one thousand kilometers from the Ukrainian border.

    Ukraine’s partners certainly seem to recognize the importance of drones and have set up an international drone coalition to aid deliveries. In a further example of institutional innovation, Ukraine has this year become the first nation to establish a separate branch of its military dedicated to drone warfare.

    Looking ahead, Ukraine’s drone warfare strategy will continue to focus on flexibility, innovation, and the daily challenge of maintaining a technological advantage over Russia. Ukraine’s leaders know they cannot hope to defeat Russia in a traditional war of attrition, and must instead make the most of the agility and technological ingenuity that the country has demonstrated since February 2022. As Ukraine’s understanding of drone warfare continues to evolve, the outside world will be watching and learning.
  588. @A123
    Trump's team has great instincts and the ability to set-up effective events quickly.

    Biden called Trump voters garbage (1). What does the highly effective Trump campaign do?

     
    https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/trump%20garbage%20truck%202.jpg?itok=Th9e3mdO
     

    Biden's gaffe created two big positive days for TRUMP 2024. It drowned out Harris's messaging at a critical point when early votes are being cast daily.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-calls-80-million-americans-human-garbage-after-comedian-sparks-mass-triggering

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Donald the Fat is no more capable of pushing and pulling a full dumpster around than is Willie Brown’s skank ho. Those guys (all are guys) are in top physical condition.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    [Trump] is no more capable of pushing and pulling a full dumpster
    ...
    Those guys (all are guys) are in top physical condition.

     

    Where did anyone say Trump was going out to do an 8 or 10 hour shift? Trump did not drive the garage truck either. He was in the passenger seat. You are going out of your way to 100% miss the point.

    Do you really think that blue collar workers are traumatized by the fact that a 78 year old did not pull a full 8 hour shift? Those swing blue collar voters perceived the sincere respect Trump has for workers who have tough jobs.
    ____

    Campaigns are driven by messaging, which includes symbolism.

    -1- Biden called Trump supporters garbage. That cost Harris an entire 24 hour news cycle. Was this a gaffe? Or, a planned sabotage of usurper Kamala?

    -2- Trump was smart. His campaign arranged and bannered a garbage truck in a few hours. Trump simply arrived in it and spoke to the media on camera. This totally wiped out coverage of Harris for another 24 hour news cycle.

    Trump and his campaign team are highly effective at reaching swing & independent voters. And, it buried media exposure of the opposition. It's a double victory move.

    PEACE 😇
  589. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC


    Mearsheimer is actually promoting Ukrainian nationalism strongly. I suppose he was an up and coming Neocon warmonger back then.
     
    Yes that certainly does look like it is opposite to Mearshimer 2024. See previous discussion on free will. People in that business are constrained by watching the algorithm as it tabulates their likes and re-tweets and what nots. : (

    There are a billion people looking at tik tok every day getting what remains of their free will driven to zero asymptotically.

    Did you read Ron Unz's latest comment where he expresses wonder that everybody is interested in food and fat? Wait until he finds out about semaglutidnomics.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    In 2014, Mearsh said Russia was declining power. He has since changed on that particular. Back in 2015, Macgregor referred to Russia as a centuries menace and believed the Kiev regime lies less than Russia.

    People can change when reality sets in. There’re also those who got it right from the get go.

  590. @Mikel
    @AP


    His dining date with Butina and her handler was a bit suspect.
    ...
    Tulsi’s biggest political donor before the war was a long-time Putin apologist.
     
    It looks like you Ukies have some similar organization to the Jewish ADL monitoring every word and gesture of American citizens to categorize them as friends or enemies.

    Unfortunately though, there are no Ukrainian equivalents of Glenn Greenwald, Bernie Sanders or Ron Unz: American Jews willing to speak up against Israel. That's what I found shocking very early on, when Ukraine was killing scores of its own civilians in Donbas. Nobody in Ukraine or the diaspora raised their voice against the brutality that was going on in their land but everybody was extremely quick to accuse foreigners who did speak up against it of being "Putin agents". Very unseemly.

    During its 40 years, the center claims to have set up exchanges, helped launch Alcoholics Anonymous in Russia and taught business skills to Russian entrepreneurs.
     
    Imagine the horror. If that doesn't prove treason, what does?

    I don't share Matra's feelings towards Slavs. People very close to me are Slavs or part-Slav and I have been treated very well in the Slavic countries that I have been to. But you seem determined to prove him right. Why would any Western country want to have an unassimilated diaspora that not only is more loyal to their old country than to the one they are citizens of but also keeps watch on their fellow citizens to denigrate them when they are not seen as sympathetic to their cause?

    I’m not the only one to see how Latin American of a leader Trump is.
     
    There is some truth to that, certainly, and I remember having said so myself here, to A123's dismay. But as usual in these threads, you say something truthful and kill two birds with one stone. I get attacked both by pro-Putin A123 and anti-Putin AP. It's not too surprising really. Being pro or anti Putin does not define one's character nearly as much as supporting the killing of thousands of civilians does. He supports killing Palestinian and Ukrainian civilians and you supported killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians. Who cares what political goals are behind your equivalent positions?

    However, Trump's populist and showman tendencies are by no means as "Latin American" as using the judicial system to prosecute your political opponent with phony accusations in the middle of a presidential campaign, which you wholeheartedly supported. And now you lament the Latin-Americanization of the US politics lol.

    It’s natural of course for immigrants who grew up under Franco and lived in Latin America prior to their arrival here to vote for and be comfortable with such a radical transformation.
     
    You shouldn't take my reminders that you're voting for Kamala too personally. I don't care about that too much. Unassimilated Ukrainian-Americans who plan on emigrating to Europe voting for this or that candidate are totally inconsequential. There are vastly more important challenges for those hoping that the US will stay a prosperous country in the long-term.

    But if you must take off your chest the pain of voting for a person you abhor, try to build more imaginative attacks towards the people who remind you of your bad deed. I grew up in a radical anti-Franco environment, as I'm sure we've discussed multiple times, and, amazingly, you seem to forget that barely one or two weeks ago we were debating the need to curb immigration from Latam. I was opposing this mass immigration precisely because I know that part of the world very well whereas you supported it because, not knowing it nearly as well as I do, you have a very positive image of Latin-Americans. Don't you realize how ridiculous it looks now to accuse me of being the one who wants to Latinoamericanize the US?

    Replies: @Matra, @A123, @AP, @Mikhail

    Re: https://kyivindependent.com/navalnys-posthumous-memoir-falls-short-on-ukraine/

    She believes in a collective guilt of Russians but not among Ukes within Kiev regime controlled Ukraine. I don’t support collective guilt.

  591. Good one on Mehdi Hasan:

  592. Richard Spence thinks Lenin was Okhrana.

    After years of being Richard he is now Rick. If you google Richard Spence from my computer google’s artificial stupidity gives you Richard Spencer.

  593. @songbird
    @Mikel

    Lol. It is funny how he seems to consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US. But that the Jamaican-Indian Harris is the most loyal of all.

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP's stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can't be about territoriality.

    And yet, if he is for Galicia specifically, it is hard to understand why he wouldn't embrace the candidate who seems more inclined to support a peace deal or a freeze in the conflict (I.e. Trump.)

    I wish he would explain his war aims more clearly. It is not obvious to me that he has thought through a realistic end to the conflict, and doesn't want unconditional US support for a continuous war, until Russia surrenders, which seems quite unlikely.

    Replies: @AP, @Matra, @Mikel

    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can’t be about territoriality.

    I think I understand his position. It’s a common one among nationalists, actually: territory is more important than the people inhabiting it.

    Even small nationalisms, like the Basque one, suffer from this vice. The province of Navarre is the direct inheritor of the kingdom of Navarre, the only political entity to ever encompass Basque speakers on both sides of the Pyrenees. Once this kingdom was conquered by Castille in the 16th century, most of its territory got Romanized over time and a majority of its inhabitants in the south and center are hostile to Basque nationalism but, given the symbolic value of the old kingdom, Basque nationalists rejected the Spanish offer in the 70s of dividing the province. The result has been two generations of Northern Navarrese, who are among the most passionate supporters of Basque independence, being cut off from the Basque Autonomous Community.

    Perhaps the attitude of Irish nationalists towards Ulster is similar in considering the territory of the island more important than the wishes of part of its inhabitants in the North, although my impression from 15 years ago is that most Irish didn’t care much about Ulster anymore.

    AP’s position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can’t hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects, but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them. What I’m not sure he realizes is how much his position explains what has happened in Ukraine since its independence. Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them (I even saw a BBC documentary showing this mutual hostility once) and preferred to have close ties to the Russians, holding back EU accession.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all? For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower for whatever is going on between Galicians and Russified Ukrainians is as insane as risking that kind of war for whatever the Navarrese of the North and the Navarrese of the South feel about each other. Totally nuts (and I say this as someone who has ancestors in both regions).

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    AP’s position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can’t hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects,
     
    On what measure are Easterners superior? The only thing is that they generated more GDP.

    But I won't criticize them too much now because they are on the front lines and Russia is killing them and destroying their cities. Really doing it, not doing what they accused Poroshenko of doing.


    but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them.
     
    I'm fine with Donbas and Crimea being out of Ukraine, but not with Russian plans to expand into areas that want to stay in Ukraine.

    Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them
     
    They also thought they were superior, because their region with its coal and steel produced more $$$ so they thought they were feeding everyone. Until, it turns out, Ukraine ended up doing better without their most money-making part.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all?
     
    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA. Ukraine being integrated with the West prevents that from happening. And unlike in the case of Iraq, Ukraine wants that.

    For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower
     
    There was no risk of a hot war with a nuclear power by providing Ukraine with military assistance. Russia isn't led by suicidal death cultists.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

  594. I assume the Southport killer was a Tutsi, but, if my superficial research is correct, the surname Rudakubana itself is found among both groups.

  595. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Donald the Fat is no more capable of pushing and pulling a full dumpster around than is Willie Brown's skank ho. Those guys (all are guys) are in top physical condition.

    Replies: @A123

    [Trump] is no more capable of pushing and pulling a full dumpster

    Those guys (all are guys) are in top physical condition.

    Where did anyone say Trump was going out to do an 8 or 10 hour shift? Trump did not drive the garage truck either. He was in the passenger seat. You are going out of your way to 100% miss the point.

    Do you really think that blue collar workers are traumatized by the fact that a 78 year old did not pull a full 8 hour shift? Those swing blue collar voters perceived the sincere respect Trump has for workers who have tough jobs.
    ____

    Campaigns are driven by messaging, which includes symbolism.

    -1- Biden called Trump supporters garbage. That cost Harris an entire 24 hour news cycle. Was this a gaffe? Or, a planned sabotage of usurper Kamala?

    -2- Trump was smart. His campaign arranged and bannered a garbage truck in a few hours. Trump simply arrived in it and spoke to the media on camera. This totally wiped out coverage of Harris for another 24 hour news cycle.

    Trump and his campaign team are highly effective at reaching swing & independent voters. And, it buried media exposure of the opposition. It’s a double victory move.

    PEACE 😇

  596. @songbird
    @AP


    You claimed I “consider every advocate of peace a traitor to the US.” No, RFK Jr. is probably just a psychopath
     
    Surely, a psychopath enmeshed in a den of traitors would be traitor too? Doesn't it take psychopathy to be a traitor?

    no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.
     
    This seems bizarre rhetoric from someone who thinks the USSR is some great hobgoblin and who no doubt laments Katyn.

    Seems like adapting yourself to the narrative. In 1940, after Katyn, and the Holodomor, would you really have been promoting that the US prop up Stalin with millions of tons of supplies? Frankly, the idea is absurd.

    Germany was in NATO
     
    Bad example. There were already US bases in West Germany, before it joined.

    (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities)
     
    some of those Chinese drone light shows are pretty impressive. I'd be very surprised, if money wasn't being deliberately funneled to them as a dual use technology for potential military applications.

    That said, for Ukraine it sounds like a wunderwaffe. They don't have the indigenous tech, and I doubt if anyone would be so foolish to give them it, if there was someone with it. Corruption would mean they would sell it.

    Replies: @AP

    no more than someone wanting to, say, cut off Lend Lease to Britain or the USSR during World War II was an “advocate for peace.

    This seems bizarre rhetoric from someone who thinks the USSR is some great hobgoblin and who no doubt laments Katyn.

    Hitler was even worse.

    And you are trying to change the subject.

    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now.

    Germany was in NATO

    Bad example. There were already US bases in West Germany, before it joined.

    Which further supports my point.

    Germany didn’t need its own nukes because it had lots of Americans based on its soil. If Ukraine gets a similar deal (or NATO) it, too, won’t need its own nukes and/or some other deterrent.

    (I am using nukes as short-hand but it could also be a massive long-distance missile arsenal or next-generation massive drone swarms capable of taking out cities)

    some of those Chinese drone light shows are pretty impressive. I’d be very surprised, if money wasn’t being deliberately funneled to them as a dual use technology for potential military applications.

    That said, for Ukraine it sounds like a wunderwaffe. They don’t have the indigenous tech,

    If you mean certain components such as chips they do not produce them themselves (Chinese and Russians also use Western parts like that). But they have their own highly skilled researchers and innovators. Ukraine is a major technological R & D center – they are creating their own AI for drones (rendering them immune to jamming because they “think” and kill without an operator) and doing things that the haven’t done yet. War can really spur innovation. Ukraine’s domestic drones are now more effective and much cheaper than Western ones. Their massive use by Ukraine probably contributes to the much-improved casualty ratio.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraines-innovative-drone-industry-helps-counter-putins-war-machine/

    The growth of Ukraine’s domestic drone industry over the past two years has been striking, with more than 200 drone-manufacturing companies created. The Ukrainian authorities have allocated $2 billion for the production of drones in 2024, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy setting an annual production target of one million FPV drones.

    Ukraine’s leaders hope more drones will mean less reliance on traditional munitions and fewer casualties. “We don’t have as many human resources as Russia. They fight, they die, they send more people, they don’t care, but that’s not how we see war,” commented Alex Bornyakov, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation.

    [MORE]

    A key element in Ukraine’s drone strategy is the BRAVE1 initiative, a government-led defense tech cluster established in spring 2023 to streamline cooperation between the public and private sectors. This cluster has helped numerous companies cut through red tape, speeding up the implementation of new technologies to support Ukraine’s defense.

    The race to innovate is relentless, with Ukraine’s steadily improving drone capabilities mirrored by Russia’s own rapidly expanding electronic warfare arsenal. Ukrainian engineers are now attempting to overcome the Kremlin’s increasingly sophisticated jamming efforts by embedding artificial intelligence (AI) technologies into drones. This innovation has already played a part in Kyiv’s long-range drone strike campaign against Russia’s energy industry, with CNN reporting that Ukraine has employed AI-enabled drones to hit targets as far away as Russia’s Tatarstan region, well over one thousand kilometers from the Ukrainian border.

    Ukraine’s partners certainly seem to recognize the importance of drones and have set up an international drone coalition to aid deliveries. In a further example of institutional innovation, Ukraine has this year become the first nation to establish a separate branch of its military dedicated to drone warfare.

    Looking ahead, Ukraine’s drone warfare strategy will continue to focus on flexibility, innovation, and the daily challenge of maintaining a technological advantage over Russia. Ukraine’s leaders know they cannot hope to defeat Russia in a traditional war of attrition, and must instead make the most of the agility and technological ingenuity that the country has demonstrated since February 2022. As Ukraine’s understanding of drone warfare continues to evolve, the outside world will be watching and learning.

  597. @Mikel
    @songbird


    But when you dress down the rhetoric, I honestly find AP’s stance mystifying. He claims not to give a fig for Eastern Ukraine, so on the surface it seems that his embrace of Harris can’t be about territoriality.
     
    I think I understand his position. It's a common one among nationalists, actually: territory is more important than the people inhabiting it.

    Even small nationalisms, like the Basque one, suffer from this vice. The province of Navarre is the direct inheritor of the kingdom of Navarre, the only political entity to ever encompass Basque speakers on both sides of the Pyrenees. Once this kingdom was conquered by Castille in the 16th century, most of its territory got Romanized over time and a majority of its inhabitants in the south and center are hostile to Basque nationalism but, given the symbolic value of the old kingdom, Basque nationalists rejected the Spanish offer in the 70s of dividing the province. The result has been two generations of Northern Navarrese, who are among the most passionate supporters of Basque independence, being cut off from the Basque Autonomous Community.

    Perhaps the attitude of Irish nationalists towards Ulster is similar in considering the territory of the island more important than the wishes of part of its inhabitants in the North, although my impression from 15 years ago is that most Irish didn't care much about Ulster anymore.

    AP's position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can't hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects, but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them. What I'm not sure he realizes is how much his position explains what has happened in Ukraine since its independence. Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them (I even saw a BBC documentary showing this mutual hostility once) and preferred to have close ties to the Russians, holding back EU accession.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all? For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower for whatever is going on between Galicians and Russified Ukrainians is as insane as risking that kind of war for whatever the Navarrese of the North and the Navarrese of the South feel about each other. Totally nuts (and I say this as someone who has ancestors in both regions).

    Replies: @AP

    AP’s position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can’t hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects,

    On what measure are Easterners superior? The only thing is that they generated more GDP.

    But I won’t criticize them too much now because they are on the front lines and Russia is killing them and destroying their cities. Really doing it, not doing what they accused Poroshenko of doing.

    but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them.

    I’m fine with Donbas and Crimea being out of Ukraine, but not with Russian plans to expand into areas that want to stay in Ukraine.

    Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them

    They also thought they were superior, because their region with its coal and steel produced more $$$ so they thought they were feeding everyone. Until, it turns out, Ukraine ended up doing better without their most money-making part.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all?

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA. Ukraine being integrated with the West prevents that from happening. And unlike in the case of Iraq, Ukraine wants that.

    For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower

    There was no risk of a hot war with a nuclear power by providing Ukraine with military assistance. Russia isn’t led by suicidal death cultists.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    Russia isn’t led by suicidal death cultists.
     
    Sometimes I wonder? During the last few weeks of eeking out a few small Ukrainian villages, Russian casualties have averaged around 1,200 casualties/week.
    , @Mikel
    @AP


    On what measure are Easterners superior?
     
    I don't know. And I don't care. I have a much more solid opinion on the old rivalry between Biscayans and Gipuzkoans but I wouldn't expect you or anyone else on this blog to care about it in the slightest so I will keep it to myself.

    I think I actually do understand why Western Ukrainians feel superior to the Easterners and why Eastern Ukrainians were opposed to letting the Westerners run the country. I can also understand how 25 years after independence many people in Ukraine felt that their country was lagging far behind everyone in their neighborhood (including Russia) and wanted to follow the path of integration with the EU. But all of this is just because I was born in Europe and have visited Kiev and several countries neighboring Ukraine. The people that live around me in the US would have no clue what I'm talking about if I spoke about Galicia and its problems. As a matter of fact, not many years ago I would have myself assumed that anyone talking about Galicia was speaking about the region in Spain with the same name. I think I only had a vague idea of some region in Poland having a similar name at some point in history.

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.
     
    That's a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion, let alone running any risk of a dangerous war. Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That's as nonsensical as the fear that Moscow will march on Berlin or Warsaw. What for? As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives.

    To the extent that worrying about a strong Russia is a foreign policy concern, the only rational approach is to keep relations as good as possible, address any concerns they may have of being encroached by a hostile military alliance and stay away of ethnic conflicts where neither the US nor the EU has any business other than trying to mediate.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war and the most dangerous conflict for the US since the Cuban missiles crisis, it's time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek. Sadly, he has already given his support to Mike Johnson as future leader of the House and is totally distracted while the neocons maneuver to replace McConnell with another swampy like Thune. The more sane voices on foreign policy he surrounds himself with, the better.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

  598. A funny explanation of Russia’s supposed 10:1 artillery advantage:

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Russia may still be emphasizing artillery because it destroys more AFU troops and military equipment per civilian casualty (less collateral damage). Aerial bombing is potentially more indiscriminate.

    , @Sean
    @AP


    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now
     

    Assistance to 'Britain' was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1 , during which time the average US infantryman lasted less than two weeks before being wounded or killed (might be mentioned that in WW1 America did the same thing to help the British Empire wich was not a democracy but ruled by force ... actually the British Empire was not a a democracy in WW2 either, and there were severe famines while rice was being exported from India).

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting. In his famous TV OP ED report opining it was time fir the US (drafting 17 year olds) to negotiate over 'Nam, Walter Cronkite remarked on the number of young fit male civilians he saw in Saigon. Joining the Ukrainian army right now is not ambushing Russian columns as it was when there were hordes of enthusiastic males it's being in a frontline dug out over--against arrays of Russian firepower, and days before medvac if you get wounded.


    Sky News: 'Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost'
     
    It is said that Ukrainian artillery is so accurate it gets kills with fmuch less shell expenditure. However, the Ukrainians are using drones as replacements for what they are short on: artillery. The evidence for this is that Ukrainian kills of Russians are often seen in FPV drone footage, but the most economical use of drones is for artillery spotting so enemy can be got a bunch at a time. The Russians are bunching up far less too, especially in attack. Ukraine forces are increasingly being poorly handled by a commander beholden to Zelensky. Russia got them to move Ukraine's precious reserve formations with a feint at Kharkiv, and the Ukrainians then tried the same trick with Kursk but have been completely unable to draw off the good units of the Russian army, and actually it is more a case of elite Ukrainian units being well out of Donbass inferno by being over-against barely capable Russians and even Koreans now. The upshot is there are not the good units to counterattack Russian incursions into the key areas of the Ukrainian defence line after it gets seven bells knocked out its morale by constant shelling.

    Replies: @AP

  599. How do military warnings work in the modern world?

    If Russia decided to partially show its cards and announce they will no longer attempt to minimize civilian casualties at all costs, how would the citizens of Ukraine react? In other words, if Russia states they will pursue all soldiers, support personnel and weapons manufacturers with extreme prejudice, would civilians leave the specified area?

    In this hypothetical scenario I think the Kremlin would phrase this better than I have, leaving it matter of fact, Geneva compliant and not provocative per se. They would give lots of examples of militarily important targets which they avoided because the Ukies were using human shields.They would be upgrading the intensity from the SMO level to normal modern warfare.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    They're losing and will lose. The convoluted babble from them is their personal psyops coverup way of trying to cope.

    Getting annihilated on the battle field - talk about Norks and needing more weapons, along with spinning how bad Russia has it and how great they are.

    More! More! More!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1XCf9gEu7E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8PR6D61n4s

  600. @AP
    A funny explanation of Russia's supposed 10:1 artillery advantage:

    https://i.imgur.com/rwZcUIX.png




    https://twitter.com/marmar_ae/status/1851793695840010420

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    Russia may still be emphasizing artillery because it destroys more AFU troops and military equipment per civilian casualty (less collateral damage). Aerial bombing is potentially more indiscriminate.

  601. @QCIC
    How do military warnings work in the modern world?

    If Russia decided to partially show its cards and announce they will no longer attempt to minimize civilian casualties at all costs, how would the citizens of Ukraine react? In other words, if Russia states they will pursue all soldiers, support personnel and weapons manufacturers with extreme prejudice, would civilians leave the specified area?

    In this hypothetical scenario I think the Kremlin would phrase this better than I have, leaving it matter of fact, Geneva compliant and not provocative per se. They would give lots of examples of militarily important targets which they avoided because the Ukies were using human shields.They would be upgrading the intensity from the SMO level to normal modern warfare.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    They’re losing and will lose. The convoluted babble from them is their personal psyops coverup way of trying to cope.

    Getting annihilated on the battle field – talk about Norks and needing more weapons, along with spinning how bad Russia has it and how great they are.

    More! More! More!

  602. Excellent overview:

  603. • Replies: @Sean
    @Mikhail

    A rapprochement with communist China enabled the US to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union. An alliance with Russia (among others) will be necessary to ensure American dominance against a future mega power China. While it is far from certain that China, which has immense economies of scale, will surpass the US in industrial and economic wherewithal it would hardly be surprising.

    Hodges wants to really beat Russia in Ukraine to deter Russia from attacking countries that are full members of NATO, and the more probable but still hardly likely Chinese attack on Taiwan. Thinking strategically, victory for Ukraine with US/ Western aid would knock the stuffing out of Russia, and most likely lead to America being viewed by Russia as an implacable enemy. The best way to not get Taiwan invaded is for the Taiwanese government not to declare independence.

    A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance, unless China fails to grow into a giant Hong Kong, or despite hundreds of thousands of dead and a humiliating loss, Russia decided to turn and, trampling over the banners they proudly carried in 2022, become our bitch boy. I am not saying Russia ought to be allowed to really win in Ukraine but there are good long term strategic reasons for not going all out to have Russia trounced there. The current Western policy seems about right; the priority is to stop Putin running Russia into the ground in an attempt to secure complete victory in Ukraine

    I see no harm in diplomacy and leaving the door open to compromise with Russia, they have paid dearly for the land they would keep in a ceasefire, or even a final settlement. Though he does not lead a democracy, the man in the Kremlin is genuinely popular in Russia, so he has the political capital to alter tack and have his people look to a rapprochement with the West as an option. Not tomorrow but the day after tomorrow we are going to really need Russia.

    Replies: @sudden death, @YetAnotherAnon

  604. @Mikhail
    Some clown world:

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/trump-vs-harris-ukraine%E2%80%99s-future-could-depend-america%E2%80%99s-2024-election-213475

    Replies: @Sean

    A rapprochement with communist China enabled the US to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union. An alliance with Russia (among others) will be necessary to ensure American dominance against a future mega power China. While it is far from certain that China, which has immense economies of scale, will surpass the US in industrial and economic wherewithal it would hardly be surprising.

    Hodges wants to really beat Russia in Ukraine to deter Russia from attacking countries that are full members of NATO, and the more probable but still hardly likely Chinese attack on Taiwan. Thinking strategically, victory for Ukraine with US/ Western aid would knock the stuffing out of Russia, and most likely lead to America being viewed by Russia as an implacable enemy. The best way to not get Taiwan invaded is for the Taiwanese government not to declare independence.

    A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance, unless China fails to grow into a giant Hong Kong, or despite hundreds of thousands of dead and a humiliating loss, Russia decided to turn and, trampling over the banners they proudly carried in 2022, become our bitch boy. I am not saying Russia ought to be allowed to really win in Ukraine but there are good long term strategic reasons for not going all out to have Russia trounced there. The current Western policy seems about right; the priority is to stop Putin running Russia into the ground in an attempt to secure complete victory in Ukraine

    I see no harm in diplomacy and leaving the door open to compromise with Russia, they have paid dearly for the land they would keep in a ceasefire, or even a final settlement. Though he does not lead a democracy, the man in the Kremlin is genuinely popular in Russia, so he has the political capital to alter tack and have his people look to a rapprochement with the West as an option. Not tomorrow but the day after tomorrow we are going to really need Russia.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Sean

    What is being advocated here is the mid 19th century US-Mexico option regarding RF/UA today, when US grabbed a lot of land in southwest, including Texas, but ultimately stopped for good after and let the rest of Mexico live intact for a century and half so far.

    However the question may arise whether the American relative restraint downsouth would have been so lasting if there were no such thing as American inner civil war happening relatively shortly after they got all those lands then?;)

    Replies: @Sean, @emil nikola richard

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Sean

    "A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance"

    China won't let Russia be defeated. They've just sanctioned the #1 US drone company who are sending drones to Ukraine.

    https://www.suasnews.com/2024/10/chinas-sanctions-on-skydio/


    We have always manufactured our drones in the U.S., and over the last few years we invested massively in bringing up supply for drone components outside of China. Batteries are one of the few components we have not yet moved out of China. We have a substantial stock of batteries on hand, and our team was already developing alternative suppliers. But right now we don’t expect new sources to come online until the spring of next year.

    In order to continue delivering X10s and supporting our customers, we have to take the drastic step of rationing batteries to one per drone. I know how critical drones are to your work, and how important having additional batteries is for many of your missions. It pains me to do this. We are extending the software license, warranty, and support term for all drones fulfilled with less than a full complement of batteries by the length of time it takes us to deliver all batteries in the kit.

    This is a clarifying moment for the drone industry. If there was ever any doubt, this action makes clear that the Chinese government will use supply chains as a weapon to advance their interests over ours.
     

    I can't see the US waking up to China, myself. We'll welcome you to the club of former empires.
  605. @Sean
    @Mikhail

    A rapprochement with communist China enabled the US to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union. An alliance with Russia (among others) will be necessary to ensure American dominance against a future mega power China. While it is far from certain that China, which has immense economies of scale, will surpass the US in industrial and economic wherewithal it would hardly be surprising.

    Hodges wants to really beat Russia in Ukraine to deter Russia from attacking countries that are full members of NATO, and the more probable but still hardly likely Chinese attack on Taiwan. Thinking strategically, victory for Ukraine with US/ Western aid would knock the stuffing out of Russia, and most likely lead to America being viewed by Russia as an implacable enemy. The best way to not get Taiwan invaded is for the Taiwanese government not to declare independence.

    A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance, unless China fails to grow into a giant Hong Kong, or despite hundreds of thousands of dead and a humiliating loss, Russia decided to turn and, trampling over the banners they proudly carried in 2022, become our bitch boy. I am not saying Russia ought to be allowed to really win in Ukraine but there are good long term strategic reasons for not going all out to have Russia trounced there. The current Western policy seems about right; the priority is to stop Putin running Russia into the ground in an attempt to secure complete victory in Ukraine

    I see no harm in diplomacy and leaving the door open to compromise with Russia, they have paid dearly for the land they would keep in a ceasefire, or even a final settlement. Though he does not lead a democracy, the man in the Kremlin is genuinely popular in Russia, so he has the political capital to alter tack and have his people look to a rapprochement with the West as an option. Not tomorrow but the day after tomorrow we are going to really need Russia.

    Replies: @sudden death, @YetAnotherAnon

    What is being advocated here is the mid 19th century US-Mexico option regarding RF/UA today, when US grabbed a lot of land in southwest, including Texas, but ultimately stopped for good after and let the rest of Mexico live intact for a century and half so far.

    However the question may arise whether the American relative restraint downsouth would have been so lasting if there were no such thing as American inner civil war happening relatively shortly after they got all those lands then?;)

    • Replies: @Sean
    @sudden death

    Interesting thought. I would note though that the US mainly expanded into what was in effect the Comanche territory, sometimes called an 'empire' that was huge. They were not just your average nomadic pastoralists (ie warlike expansionists) they also had a lock on horse and hides trading far beyond their realm.

    The Mexicans had a hell of a time of it with the Comanche raids surprisingly far south, but there was a greater density of Mexicans in the south. In other words the even the south of Texas was inadvisable to settle in, and so that land was not inhabited by all many Mexicans at the time the US took it. Had the Comanche not existed one could see a enormous population of Mexicans that would have to be absorbed after a military victory. And even another civil war between the SouthWest and the East eventually. Or the US having no civil war but taking on the character of the Confederacy.

    , @emil nikola richard
    @sudden death

    Plenty of Southern rich guys wanted Mexican and Cuban conquest for new slave states and new plantations and more more more. 19th century Americans were big on the game of Get As Much As You Can.

    MAYCG. Much As You Can Get. Put it on a hat!

  606. @AP
    A funny explanation of Russia's supposed 10:1 artillery advantage:

    https://i.imgur.com/rwZcUIX.png




    https://twitter.com/marmar_ae/status/1851793695840010420

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now

    Assistance to ‘Britain’ was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1 , during which time the average US infantryman lasted less than two weeks before being wounded or killed (might be mentioned that in WW1 America did the same thing to help the British Empire wich was not a democracy but ruled by force … actually the British Empire was not a a democracy in WW2 either, and there were severe famines while rice was being exported from India).

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting. In his famous TV OP ED report opining it was time fir the US (drafting 17 year olds) to negotiate over ‘Nam, Walter Cronkite remarked on the number of young fit male civilians he saw in Saigon. Joining the Ukrainian army right now is not ambushing Russian columns as it was when there were hordes of enthusiastic males it’s being in a frontline dug out over–against arrays of Russian firepower, and days before medvac if you get wounded.

    Sky News: ‘Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine’s Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost’

    It is said that Ukrainian artillery is so accurate it gets kills with fmuch less shell expenditure. However, the Ukrainians are using drones as replacements for what they are short on: artillery. The evidence for this is that Ukrainian kills of Russians are often seen in FPV drone footage, but the most economical use of drones is for artillery spotting so enemy can be got a bunch at a time. The Russians are bunching up far less too, especially in attack. Ukraine forces are increasingly being poorly handled by a commander beholden to Zelensky. Russia got them to move Ukraine’s precious reserve formations with a feint at Kharkiv, and the Ukrainians then tried the same trick with Kursk but have been completely unable to draw off the good units of the Russian army, and actually it is more a case of elite Ukrainian units being well out of Donbass inferno by being over-against barely capable Russians and even Koreans now. The upshot is there are not the good units to counterattack Russian incursions into the key areas of the Ukrainian defence line after it gets seven bells knocked out its morale by constant shelling.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean


    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now


    Assistance to ‘Britain’ was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1
     
    I was talking about Lend Lease help to Britain, before the USA entered World War II. There were pro-Germans in the USA also opposing this help for the sake of "peace."

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting.
     
    Ukraine isn't asking for Western troops but for Western arms. Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. XYZ

  607. @sudden death
    @Sean

    What is being advocated here is the mid 19th century US-Mexico option regarding RF/UA today, when US grabbed a lot of land in southwest, including Texas, but ultimately stopped for good after and let the rest of Mexico live intact for a century and half so far.

    However the question may arise whether the American relative restraint downsouth would have been so lasting if there were no such thing as American inner civil war happening relatively shortly after they got all those lands then?;)

    Replies: @Sean, @emil nikola richard

    Interesting thought. I would note though that the US mainly expanded into what was in effect the Comanche territory, sometimes called an ’empire’ that was huge. They were not just your average nomadic pastoralists (ie warlike expansionists) they also had a lock on horse and hides trading far beyond their realm.

    The Mexicans had a hell of a time of it with the Comanche raids surprisingly far south, but there was a greater density of Mexicans in the south. In other words the even the south of Texas was inadvisable to settle in, and so that land was not inhabited by all many Mexicans at the time the US took it. Had the Comanche not existed one could see a enormous population of Mexicans that would have to be absorbed after a military victory. And even another civil war between the SouthWest and the East eventually. Or the US having no civil war but taking on the character of the Confederacy.

  608. How far do people think the West can escalate against Russia in Ukraine before this has serious consequences?

    Russia has lots of opportunities to escalate in Ukraine. Zelensky said Russia dropped 1100 glide bombs last week, which does not sound like a force that is exhausted!

    If Russia feels the need to take the fight more directly to the West, this may put US/NATO military satellites at risk. Normally retaliation against these satellites would be a major escalation, but the West already passed that threshold by attacking the big Russian early warning radar and also with the early drone attack on the Kremlin. The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can't back off - the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can't change their tune and start actually taking Russia's points seriously. That leaves winning the war - basically impossible, losing the war - more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a "tie". But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a "gas station", they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is "but Russia can stop!!!!" - see J Johnson's constant pleading...how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

  609. Has Vivek lost caste by collecting the garbage?

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    It's 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn't lost any face. A blonde shiksa.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    , @songbird
    @songbird

    LMAO. Trump is saying that he would have protected the Hindus in Bangladesh.

    And holding up a spectre of possible Hindu persecution by Progs in the US.

    He is wishing everyone happy Diwali, which I am pretty sure no normal American ever heard of before Life of Pi.


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1852033622494105832

  610. @AP
    @Mikel


    AP’s position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can’t hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects,
     
    On what measure are Easterners superior? The only thing is that they generated more GDP.

    But I won't criticize them too much now because they are on the front lines and Russia is killing them and destroying their cities. Really doing it, not doing what they accused Poroshenko of doing.


    but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them.
     
    I'm fine with Donbas and Crimea being out of Ukraine, but not with Russian plans to expand into areas that want to stay in Ukraine.

    Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them
     
    They also thought they were superior, because their region with its coal and steel produced more $$$ so they thought they were feeding everyone. Until, it turns out, Ukraine ended up doing better without their most money-making part.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all?
     
    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA. Ukraine being integrated with the West prevents that from happening. And unlike in the case of Iraq, Ukraine wants that.

    For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower
     
    There was no risk of a hot war with a nuclear power by providing Ukraine with military assistance. Russia isn't led by suicidal death cultists.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    Russia isn’t led by suicidal death cultists.

    Sometimes I wonder? During the last few weeks of eeking out a few small Ukrainian villages, Russian casualties have averaged around 1,200 casualties/week.

  611. @QCIC
    How far do people think the West can escalate against Russia in Ukraine before this has serious consequences?

    Russia has lots of opportunities to escalate in Ukraine. Zelensky said Russia dropped 1100 glide bombs last week, which does not sound like a force that is exhausted!

    If Russia feels the need to take the fight more directly to the West, this may put US/NATO military satellites at risk. Normally retaliation against these satellites would be a major escalation, but the West already passed that threshold by attacking the big Russian early warning radar and also with the early drone attack on the Kremlin. The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.

    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can’t change their tune and start actually taking Russia’s points seriously. That leaves winning the war – basically impossible, losing the war – more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a “tie”. But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a “gas station”, they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is “but Russia can stop!!!!” – see J Johnson’s constant pleading…how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.
     
    A change in Russian leadership would be most desirable. With Putler gone, the tight muzzle of censorship imposed on Russian society would be loosened up. You don't really believe that all of the Russian oligarchs are as hellbent in supporting this confrontation with the West, as is megalomaniac Putler including his quest to become the new Peter the Great? All of them acting as Putler's patsies, willing to end up in hell in order that their dwarf czar can go down in history as a big national/imperial heroe? How many huge oligarch fortunes have been decimated by this dwarf's megalomaniacal fantasies? Wouldn't business back to usual be far superior than what they have now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    , @A123
    @Beckow



    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can’t change their tune and start actually taking Russia’s points seriously.
     
    I again encourage everyone to consider the third option. Euro leaders actively want a Forever War. It feeds their Islamophile & Open Borders agendas. Even with little to no money from the America, Europeans will continue to encourage Ukrainians to Fight to the Last Ukrainian.

    There is real risk to European elites. If the war ends, most Ukrainian refugees will return home. That will shine a spot light on the visible flood of MENA origin Muslims using forged Ukrainian identity documents. That population cannot "return" to Ukraine, because they are not from there.

    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers -- Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc. Step #1 is getting rid of Führer Zelensky and installing negotiation capable Kiev leadership independent of European influence.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @QCIC
    @Beckow

    Yes, the contemporary Ukies may go down in history as the people with the worst combination of cocky attitude and gullibility. In the eyes of the (((West))) they were too good to pass up.

    , @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    I was watching 60 minutes yesterday ( one of main russian political shows) and very surprisingly I find that Fitso is being interviewed by us!.......and that he intends to attend Victory Day next year ( 80th) if invited.....and that there was another khokhol/khokhol-lover who was armed and intending to assassinate him 2 weeks before.
    It was pleasing to see how eager he is to attend.


    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end.

     

    The most corrupt country on the planet (404), now has zero motivation to de-corrupt or suicide itself less. This sick financial practise of loaning 404 as much money as they want , with the "repayment" coming solely from interest of frozen Russian reserves just encourages all the wrong people to have it in their interest to extend 404's annihilation in the SMO, and encourages not just not fighting against corruption.......but creates even more avenues for corruption.

    If evil in its most pure evil form isn't neccesarily sinister direct physical action causing harm....then this BS financial mechanism probably is.
    Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US/Gayropa. If that is the time cycle then weapons production isn't too much of an issue. So it is only the personnel/lemming issue of the VSU that we can solve and are solving by reducing them daily, week, monthly in the numbers that we are. Further aided by Banderastans abysmal demographics/birth rate and the expectation that the insurgency potential will be next to zero after the SMO ends.

    Replies: @Beckow

  612. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can't back off - the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can't change their tune and start actually taking Russia's points seriously. That leaves winning the war - basically impossible, losing the war - more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a "tie". But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a "gas station", they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is "but Russia can stop!!!!" - see J Johnson's constant pleading...how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    A change in Russian leadership would be most desirable. With Putler gone, the tight muzzle of censorship imposed on Russian society would be loosened up. You don’t really believe that all of the Russian oligarchs are as hellbent in supporting this confrontation with the West, as is megalomaniac Putler including his quest to become the new Peter the Great? All of them acting as Putler’s patsies, willing to end up in hell in order that their dwarf czar can go down in history as a big national/imperial heroe? How many huge oligarch fortunes have been decimated by this dwarf’s megalomaniacal fantasies? Wouldn’t business back to usual be far superior than what they have now?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ... willing to end up in hell
     
    I would be interested to know what that actually means? Is it a theological hell where the oligarchs would go for their misdeeds? If so, most of them are already going. Or is it an earthly hell, like not having Parmesan cheese or access to premier banking in London?

    The odds of a coup in Moscow are very low. But if there is a coup - or an accident - the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

    How long do you think Zelko has left? He can't do an election, he would lose badly. He also can't win the war.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders - the current ones are too associated with the coming Ukraine fiasco. Plus the whole wokeness, migrants, 'green' world, possibly even the Orange-man being back to haunt them. It is not looking good for them...nothing ages faster than discarded vassals.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry Mr. Hack but you are completely illiterate about the issue. It is simple, Ukraine and Russia were two federal entities in former Soviet Union and the border were loosely created by a non-Russian Bolsheviks who btw are (their offspring) now leading the US. After separation Russia is now reclaiming her land inhabited by Russians which was not done before the divorce. Similar issue is in Kazakhstan where Kazakhs are inhabited in the southern part only but Kazakhstan is in friendly alliance with Russia unlike UkieNazis.

    These Russian actions in Ukraine were enhanced by illegitimate Kiev regime (2014 removal of pro-Russian president) banning Russian language in disputed areas and most importantly by NATO morons ambition to take over Ukraine.

    You do not wish for the new leadership in Kremlin, people like Medvedev wants to nuke London.

  613. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can't back off - the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can't change their tune and start actually taking Russia's points seriously. That leaves winning the war - basically impossible, losing the war - more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a "tie". But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a "gas station", they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is "but Russia can stop!!!!" - see J Johnson's constant pleading...how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.

    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can’t change their tune and start actually taking Russia’s points seriously.

    I again encourage everyone to consider the third option. Euro leaders actively want a Forever War. It feeds their Islamophile & Open Borders agendas. Even with little to no money from the America, Europeans will continue to encourage Ukrainians to Fight to the Last Ukrainian.

    There is real risk to European elites. If the war ends, most Ukrainian refugees will return home. That will shine a spot light on the visible flood of MENA origin Muslims using forged Ukrainian identity documents. That population cannot “return” to Ukraine, because they are not from there.

    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers — Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc. Step #1 is getting rid of Führer Zelensky and installing negotiation capable Kiev leadership independent of European influence.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    You're a demented fool kremlinstoogeA123 if you think that:


    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers — Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc
     
    There's not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees. It's time for you to put down your airplane glue and joystick and get more serious about things.

    Replies: @QCIC

  614. @sudden death
    @Sean

    What is being advocated here is the mid 19th century US-Mexico option regarding RF/UA today, when US grabbed a lot of land in southwest, including Texas, but ultimately stopped for good after and let the rest of Mexico live intact for a century and half so far.

    However the question may arise whether the American relative restraint downsouth would have been so lasting if there were no such thing as American inner civil war happening relatively shortly after they got all those lands then?;)

    Replies: @Sean, @emil nikola richard

    Plenty of Southern rich guys wanted Mexican and Cuban conquest for new slave states and new plantations and more more more. 19th century Americans were big on the game of Get As Much As You Can.

    MAYCG. Much As You Can Get. Put it on a hat!

  615. @songbird
    Has Vivek lost caste by collecting the garbage?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    It’s 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn’t lost any face. A blonde shiksa.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Jews marrying blonde shiksas isn't really that novel. I had a Jewish friend in elementary school whose mother was a blonde shiksa. (For the most part, abominable politics, though)

    But a Brahmin picking up trash in 2024 is very novel. (Even if it is a PR stunt.). Hence, good joke material.

    , @songbird
    @emil nikola richard


    It’s 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn’t lost any face
     
    This is not true.

    In reality, he has lost a lot of face, by marrying into Trump's family (that is, after Trump became a serious political candidate). Not full pariahhood, but many cancelled dinner party invitations. Some closed doors. Probably lost business contacts. Of course, we are talking about narrow social circles, so it is easy to replace the contacts with others, who don't have derangement syndrome.

    He may have probably come out ahead, altogether. But there was a substantial debit among a certain crowd.
  616. The Los Angelenos had a party after the Dodgers beat the Yankees.

  617. @A123
    @Beckow



    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can’t change their tune and start actually taking Russia’s points seriously.
     
    I again encourage everyone to consider the third option. Euro leaders actively want a Forever War. It feeds their Islamophile & Open Borders agendas. Even with little to no money from the America, Europeans will continue to encourage Ukrainians to Fight to the Last Ukrainian.

    There is real risk to European elites. If the war ends, most Ukrainian refugees will return home. That will shine a spot light on the visible flood of MENA origin Muslims using forged Ukrainian identity documents. That population cannot "return" to Ukraine, because they are not from there.

    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers -- Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc. Step #1 is getting rid of Führer Zelensky and installing negotiation capable Kiev leadership independent of European influence.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You’re a demented fool kremlinstoogeA123 if you think that:

    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers — Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc

    There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees. It’s time for you to put down your airplane glue and joystick and get more serious about things.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    What do you mean? European elites are in fact flooding Europe with unassimilable peoples who will inevitably destroy the society unless a brutal war does the job first. A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.

    It is the same thing going on in the USA, intentional destruction of the middle class. It will take about 75 years which is beyond the range of most people to recognize (1970+75 = 2045).

    AI is the wild card in all of this, but if you are pro-freedom, do not bet on AI. AI is the ultimate dream of the control freak power lusters. On paper at least, it makes almost all of the IQ > 125 'troublemakers' superfluous.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  618. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can't back off - the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can't change their tune and start actually taking Russia's points seriously. That leaves winning the war - basically impossible, losing the war - more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a "tie". But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a "gas station", they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is "but Russia can stop!!!!" - see J Johnson's constant pleading...how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    Yes, the contemporary Ukies may go down in history as the people with the worst combination of cocky attitude and gullibility. In the eyes of the (((West))) they were too good to pass up.

  619. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    You're a demented fool kremlinstoogeA123 if you think that:


    The Ukrainian people need to wake up and stop taking suicidal orders from European power centers — Berlin, Paris, Brussels, etc
     
    There's not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees. It's time for you to put down your airplane glue and joystick and get more serious about things.

    Replies: @QCIC

    What do you mean? European elites are in fact flooding Europe with unassimilable peoples who will inevitably destroy the society unless a brutal war does the job first. A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.

    It is the same thing going on in the USA, intentional destruction of the middle class. It will take about 75 years which is beyond the range of most people to recognize (1970+75 = 2045).

    AI is the wild card in all of this, but if you are pro-freedom, do not bet on AI. AI is the ultimate dream of the control freak power lusters. On paper at least, it makes almost all of the IQ > 125 ‘troublemakers’ superfluous.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    . A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.
     
    Is it subtle, or a main pillar of this theory of his?

    Replies: @QCIC

  620. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.
     
    A change in Russian leadership would be most desirable. With Putler gone, the tight muzzle of censorship imposed on Russian society would be loosened up. You don't really believe that all of the Russian oligarchs are as hellbent in supporting this confrontation with the West, as is megalomaniac Putler including his quest to become the new Peter the Great? All of them acting as Putler's patsies, willing to end up in hell in order that their dwarf czar can go down in history as a big national/imperial heroe? How many huge oligarch fortunes have been decimated by this dwarf's megalomaniacal fantasies? Wouldn't business back to usual be far superior than what they have now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    … willing to end up in hell

    I would be interested to know what that actually means? Is it a theological hell where the oligarchs would go for their misdeeds? If so, most of them are already going. Or is it an earthly hell, like not having Parmesan cheese or access to premier banking in London?

    The odds of a coup in Moscow are very low. But if there is a coup – or an accident – the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

    How long do you think Zelko has left? He can’t do an election, he would lose badly. He also can’t win the war.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders – the current ones are too associated with the coming Ukraine fiasco. Plus the whole wokeness, migrants, ‘green’ world, possibly even the Orange-man being back to haunt them. It is not looking good for them…nothing ages faster than discarded vassals.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained.
     
    This is the common refrain that I don't buy. It took 25 years of Putler's authoritarian rule before he felt emboldened enough to invade Ukraine. Any new leader would most likely tread cautiously before resuming any such a stupid policy. Being in the full throes of a war wouldn't be the most conducive environment to consolidate one's new power base, too many opportunities to make mistakes. People in Russia, will soon start reminiscing about the good old days before the war, and any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne and move forward in a new direction. Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders
     
    C'mon Beckow, what would be easier to do, change 10 - 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader? Which variant could possibly have the greatest shift in direction in the shortest amount of time? Hint: this is a rhetorical question.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

  621. Zelensky’s NATO Wish List Demands Leaked + Are ‘North Korean Troops’ in Russia?

  622. There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees.

    Weirdly this is a serious topic of discussion in some major European countries. I know it’s quite developed in France where the term ‘Islamo-gauchisme’ or ‘Islamo-leftism’ was first coined to try to understand the phenomena, it goes back at least to the 1960s and people like J.P. Sartre who were openly advocating for this to happen (e.g. he does this in his introduction to Franz Fanon’s famous book ‘White Masks…’).

    Back then it was more about sparking a kind of Maoist left-wing revolution with third world peoples, over time it has become more like Islamo-leftism, where Islamism and anti-Israel agendas are pursued.

    I don’t understand what the direct connection to the Ukraine conflict is, on the one hand Putin doesn’t seem to be against Islam and there are plenty of Muslims in the RF and in the Russian army. At the same time on the Ukrainian side some of the greatest opponents of Islamisation and Third World immigration into Europe are to be found.

    It is often the case that those who support Islamo-leftism in Europe are pro-Ukraine, but why this is the case and how their minds work (given that these types are usually strong secularists/Marxists who oppose traditional religion, yet still support Islam and more Muslims in Europe) seems opaque.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Coconuts

    Michel Foucault was a big fan of the Ayatollah Khomeni. It's amazing what can pass as intellectual fashion. I don't believe Leo Strauss ever opined about Muslim expansion but the Kagans loved to bitch about it.

    , @A123
    @Coconuts



    There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees.
     
    Weirdly this is a serious topic of discussion in some major European countries. I know it’s quite developed in France where the term ‘Islamo-gauchisme’ or ‘Islamo-leftism’ was first coined to try to understand the phenomena,
     
    The European elite hatred of Judeo-Christian values has indeed been around for awhile.

    The current Great Muslim Replacement is intended to hurt European Jews & Christians. Making native workers poorer and damaging their community culture makes them less able to resist Left Authoritarian rule from Brussels and Berlin.

    I don’t understand what the direct connection to the Ukraine conflict is,

     

    The Ukrainian conflict is an indirect connection. Countries are making it harder to arrive and stay if migrants turn up with Muslim nation documents.

    A new method to get around these limits are forged Ukrainian documents. It is widely believed that over 1/3 of the migrants using Ukrainian papers are actually non-Ukrainian Muslims with faked identities.

    Right now there are many authentic Ukrainian refugees, thus allowing European elite controlled media to side step the issue. The last thing they want is for huge numbers of real Ukrainians to return home. If one points a camera at Ukrainian refugees and it is visually obvious that 90% of them are MENA origin, the scam is rumbled. Thus, Islamophile European leaders need to keep the fight going in Ukraine, even though they know it is not winnable.

    PEACE 😇
  623. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ... willing to end up in hell
     
    I would be interested to know what that actually means? Is it a theological hell where the oligarchs would go for their misdeeds? If so, most of them are already going. Or is it an earthly hell, like not having Parmesan cheese or access to premier banking in London?

    The odds of a coup in Moscow are very low. But if there is a coup - or an accident - the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

    How long do you think Zelko has left? He can't do an election, he would lose badly. He also can't win the war.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders - the current ones are too associated with the coming Ukraine fiasco. Plus the whole wokeness, migrants, 'green' world, possibly even the Orange-man being back to haunt them. It is not looking good for them...nothing ages faster than discarded vassals.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained.

    This is the common refrain that I don’t buy. It took 25 years of Putler’s authoritarian rule before he felt emboldened enough to invade Ukraine. Any new leader would most likely tread cautiously before resuming any such a stupid policy. Being in the full throes of a war wouldn’t be the most conducive environment to consolidate one’s new power base, too many opportunities to make mistakes. People in Russia, will soon start reminiscing about the good old days before the war, and any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne and move forward in a new direction. Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders

    C’mon Beckow, what would be easier to do, change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader? Which variant could possibly have the greatest shift in direction in the shortest amount of time? Hint: this is a rhetorical question.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.
     
    Projection, as a growing number in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine aren't gung ho in supporting the little dwarf dictator Zelensky, his Banderite contingent and paid/appointed media hacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    You don't have to buy it. But nobody is buying the nonsense about "25 years to consolidate" and good life, etc...Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.


    any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne
     
    So what is it? An "authoritarian" dictatorship or people's choice? You need to be more coherent.

    In any case the support for the war in Russia is very high, anyone who would try to fold and say "come-on in NATO, you can do whatever you want with us....and those Russians in Ukraine, let them die, who cares..." would not last long.


    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?
     
    Leaders change when they fail. It doesn't matter how many there are, it goes like a wave. If (when) Russia defeats Kiev and NATO, the Macrons-Scholzs-Starmers will own the failure - not Putin, he will be victorious. They know it so they are panicking and stalling. After a lost war, the losing leaders are sent packing. That's just the way it works.

    So how about that Zelko? How many months will you give him?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

  624. @John Johnson
    @A123

    I agree that is a European Empire mistake.

    Which empire are you referring to?

    Are you saying that Putin was forced to invade a neighboring country?

    That does in fact sound like Putin defending.

    If Ukraine had kept the Minsk deal, no one would have died.

    Minsk 1 was first broken by Russia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

    Why didn't Putin invade up to DPR/LPR demarcation lines if it was about Minsk?

    Merkel single handedly convinced her puppet Zelensky to unilaterally abandon Minsk.

    Which year was that?

    The new, smaller Ukraine can integrate economically with the EU. But it cannot threaten a repeat of their aggression from 2014 to 2022.

    In what ways were they aggressive during Zelensky's presidency?

    Replies: @Catiline

    John, need some help. Ran across an asshole who insists that Russia legally owned the missiles given up by Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum and that Russia possessed the nuclear codes rendering them useless otherwise. I have no ready answer to any of this. Can you address this matter here please? Possibly with links? Thanks. (He’s a real winner, goes on about natoexpansionmaidancoupvictorianuland etc etc etc every time the subject comes up.)

  625. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained.
     
    This is the common refrain that I don't buy. It took 25 years of Putler's authoritarian rule before he felt emboldened enough to invade Ukraine. Any new leader would most likely tread cautiously before resuming any such a stupid policy. Being in the full throes of a war wouldn't be the most conducive environment to consolidate one's new power base, too many opportunities to make mistakes. People in Russia, will soon start reminiscing about the good old days before the war, and any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne and move forward in a new direction. Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders
     
    C'mon Beckow, what would be easier to do, change 10 - 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader? Which variant could possibly have the greatest shift in direction in the shortest amount of time? Hint: this is a rhetorical question.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

    Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.

    Projection, as a growing number in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine aren’t gung ho in supporting the little dwarf dictator Zelensky, his Banderite contingent and paid/appointed media hacks.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I'm not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those "livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca". Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of "Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis"?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  626. Ties with Russia ‘absolutely necessary’ – ex-Ukrainian president
    https://www.rt.com/russia/606725-kuchma-war-reparations-russia/

    Ex-president warns of growing Ukrainian anger over military draft
    https://www.rt.com/russia/606684-ukrainians-resent-mobilization/

  627. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    What do you mean? European elites are in fact flooding Europe with unassimilable peoples who will inevitably destroy the society unless a brutal war does the job first. A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.

    It is the same thing going on in the USA, intentional destruction of the middle class. It will take about 75 years which is beyond the range of most people to recognize (1970+75 = 2045).

    AI is the wild card in all of this, but if you are pro-freedom, do not bet on AI. AI is the ultimate dream of the control freak power lusters. On paper at least, it makes almost all of the IQ > 125 'troublemakers' superfluous.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    . A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.

    Is it subtle, or a main pillar of this theory of his?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Who knows, I think that is the glue talking. My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory. It may be a gateway drug to madness.

    My version would be the Islamosaurus is an unusual fossil dinosaur discovered in an archeological dig near Mecca. Poor critter gets blamed for everything.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

  628. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    the new leaders would be more nationalist and less restrained.
     
    This is the common refrain that I don't buy. It took 25 years of Putler's authoritarian rule before he felt emboldened enough to invade Ukraine. Any new leader would most likely tread cautiously before resuming any such a stupid policy. Being in the full throes of a war wouldn't be the most conducive environment to consolidate one's new power base, too many opportunities to make mistakes. People in Russia, will soon start reminiscing about the good old days before the war, and any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne and move forward in a new direction. Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.

    My point was about a change in the Euro leaders
     
    C'mon Beckow, what would be easier to do, change 10 - 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader? Which variant could possibly have the greatest shift in direction in the shortest amount of time? Hint: this is a rhetorical question.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

    You don’t have to buy it. But nobody is buying the nonsense about “25 years to consolidate” and good life, etc…Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.

    any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne

    So what is it? An “authoritarian” dictatorship or people’s choice? You need to be more coherent.

    In any case the support for the war in Russia is very high, anyone who would try to fold and say “come-on in NATO, you can do whatever you want with us….and those Russians in Ukraine, let them die, who cares…” would not last long.

    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?

    Leaders change when they fail. It doesn’t matter how many there are, it goes like a wave. If (when) Russia defeats Kiev and NATO, the Macrons-Scholzs-Starmers will own the failure – not Putin, he will be victorious. They know it so they are panicking and stalling. After a lost war, the losing leaders are sent packing. That’s just the way it works.

    So how about that Zelko? How many months will you give him?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?
     
    If you're going to quote me, then at least get that part of it right, should be:

    what would be easier to do, change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader?
     
    :-)
    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    But nobody is buying the nonsense about “25 years to consolidate” and good life, etc…Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.
     
    Nonsense. This is part one of a three-part series that chronicles Putler's rise to power. The other two parts can be located here on youtube, or even on Prime. Happy viewing and filling in the gaps in your observations.

    https://youtu.be/VEOd9tnX1g0

    Replies: @Beckow

  629. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Not all Russians are as gung-ho in supporting Putler like the (paid and appointed)i idiots running the daily talk shows.
     
    Projection, as a growing number in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine aren't gung ho in supporting the little dwarf dictator Zelensky, his Banderite contingent and paid/appointed media hacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I’m not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those “livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca”. Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of “Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis”?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I’m not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those “livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca”. Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of “Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis”?
     
    You asked for it. This is quite a home run pitch you throw. Now watch the ball travel afar.

    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  630. @Coconuts

    There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees.
     
    Weirdly this is a serious topic of discussion in some major European countries. I know it's quite developed in France where the term 'Islamo-gauchisme' or 'Islamo-leftism' was first coined to try to understand the phenomena, it goes back at least to the 1960s and people like J.P. Sartre who were openly advocating for this to happen (e.g. he does this in his introduction to Franz Fanon's famous book 'White Masks...').

    Back then it was more about sparking a kind of Maoist left-wing revolution with third world peoples, over time it has become more like Islamo-leftism, where Islamism and anti-Israel agendas are pursued.

    I don't understand what the direct connection to the Ukraine conflict is, on the one hand Putin doesn't seem to be against Islam and there are plenty of Muslims in the RF and in the Russian army. At the same time on the Ukrainian side some of the greatest opponents of Islamisation and Third World immigration into Europe are to be found.

    It is often the case that those who support Islamo-leftism in Europe are pro-Ukraine, but why this is the case and how their minds work (given that these types are usually strong secularists/Marxists who oppose traditional religion, yet still support Islam and more Muslims in Europe) seems opaque.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123

    Michel Foucault was a big fan of the Ayatollah Khomeni. It’s amazing what can pass as intellectual fashion. I don’t believe Leo Strauss ever opined about Muslim expansion but the Kagans loved to bitch about it.

  631. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    The West may back off if Russia signals that major satellites supporting Ukraine are being added to the target list.
     
    They can't back off - the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end. They can't change their tune and start actually taking Russia's points seriously. That leaves winning the war - basically impossible, losing the war - more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.

    Any escalation by Russia would only feed the crazy cycle of hatred, demonization, and no compromise. The West is hoping for a frozen conflict they could spin at home as a "tie". But if Russia keeps on going they have no answer.

    It will go down in history as one of the dumbest policies: they attacked a major power in its own region giggling it is only a "gas station", they refused to put any of their own men into the fight, instead they fed the Ukies with unrealistic promises, and lied about everything. The best they can say now is "but Russia can stop!!!!" - see J Johnson's constant pleading...how can anyone in 2024 be so stupid?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    I was watching 60 minutes yesterday ( one of main russian political shows) and very surprisingly I find that Fitso is being interviewed by us!…….and that he intends to attend Victory Day next year ( 80th) if invited…..and that there was another khokhol/khokhol-lover who was armed and intending to assassinate him 2 weeks before.
    It was pleasing to see how eager he is to attend.

    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end.

    The most corrupt country on the planet (404), now has zero motivation to de-corrupt or suicide itself less. This sick financial practise of loaning 404 as much money as they want , with the “repayment” coming solely from interest of frozen Russian reserves just encourages all the wrong people to have it in their interest to extend 404’s annihilation in the SMO, and encourages not just not fighting against corruption…….but creates even more avenues for corruption.

    If evil in its most pure evil form isn’t neccesarily sinister direct physical action causing harm….then this BS financial mechanism probably is.
    Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US/Gayropa. If that is the time cycle then weapons production isn’t too much of an issue. So it is only the personnel/lemming issue of the VSU that we can solve and are solving by reducing them daily, week, monthly in the numbers that we are. Further aided by Banderastans abysmal demographics/birth rate and the expectation that the insurgency potential will be next to zero after the SMO ends.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Gerard1234


    ...Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US... it is only the personnel
     
    There are enough Ukies left - a few million potential recruits. They don't need more. What is more likely is a gradual and then sudden collapse in the willingness to fight. There has been self-selection with the more motivated fighting up till now. But unless a country has a massive demographic boom and a constant new supply of maturing men the will inevitably tapers off. So no "20 years" is possible.

    Financially it is one thing to spend $200 billion on a kooky but mildly feasible plan, but to keep on doing it with no chance of success is absurd. The idea was always that Ukraine's riches will pay for it - Ukies will repay the West by giving away their resources. That is now unrealistic. These men are not rich because they flush money down the drain on losing crusades...We already see the pull-back.

    Robert Fico is the ultimate realist, he understands how this will go and how it will end. So does Orban and the Austrians. It is the morons from far away who don't get it - for them it is just lines on the map and undigested cherry-picked history narratives. See AP, Mr. Hacks... on how their minds simply can't shake off the deep brain-washing. They see that it is not working but the brainwash is too deep, they will scream nonsense and then scuttle away. Quite sad...

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  632. @Coconuts

    There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees.
     
    Weirdly this is a serious topic of discussion in some major European countries. I know it's quite developed in France where the term 'Islamo-gauchisme' or 'Islamo-leftism' was first coined to try to understand the phenomena, it goes back at least to the 1960s and people like J.P. Sartre who were openly advocating for this to happen (e.g. he does this in his introduction to Franz Fanon's famous book 'White Masks...').

    Back then it was more about sparking a kind of Maoist left-wing revolution with third world peoples, over time it has become more like Islamo-leftism, where Islamism and anti-Israel agendas are pursued.

    I don't understand what the direct connection to the Ukraine conflict is, on the one hand Putin doesn't seem to be against Islam and there are plenty of Muslims in the RF and in the Russian army. At the same time on the Ukrainian side some of the greatest opponents of Islamisation and Third World immigration into Europe are to be found.

    It is often the case that those who support Islamo-leftism in Europe are pro-Ukraine, but why this is the case and how their minds work (given that these types are usually strong secularists/Marxists who oppose traditional religion, yet still support Islam and more Muslims in Europe) seems opaque.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @A123

    There’s not one single reader of this blogsite that believes your stupid rants about European elites wanting to flood and destroy Europe by importing more Moslem refugees.

    Weirdly this is a serious topic of discussion in some major European countries. I know it’s quite developed in France where the term ‘Islamo-gauchisme’ or ‘Islamo-leftism’ was first coined to try to understand the phenomena,

    The European elite hatred of Judeo-Christian values has indeed been around for awhile.

    The current Great Muslim Replacement is intended to hurt European Jews & Christians. Making native workers poorer and damaging their community culture makes them less able to resist Left Authoritarian rule from Brussels and Berlin.

    I don’t understand what the direct connection to the Ukraine conflict is,

    The Ukrainian conflict is an indirect connection. Countries are making it harder to arrive and stay if migrants turn up with Muslim nation documents.

    A new method to get around these limits are forged Ukrainian documents. It is widely believed that over 1/3 of the migrants using Ukrainian papers are actually non-Ukrainian Muslims with faked identities.

    Right now there are many authentic Ukrainian refugees, thus allowing European elite controlled media to side step the issue. The last thing they want is for huge numbers of real Ukrainians to return home. If one points a camera at Ukrainian refugees and it is visually obvious that 90% of them are MENA origin, the scam is rumbled. Thus, Islamophile European leaders need to keep the fight going in Ukraine, even though they know it is not winnable.

    PEACE 😇

  633. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    You don't have to buy it. But nobody is buying the nonsense about "25 years to consolidate" and good life, etc...Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.


    any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne
     
    So what is it? An "authoritarian" dictatorship or people's choice? You need to be more coherent.

    In any case the support for the war in Russia is very high, anyone who would try to fold and say "come-on in NATO, you can do whatever you want with us....and those Russians in Ukraine, let them die, who cares..." would not last long.


    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?
     
    Leaders change when they fail. It doesn't matter how many there are, it goes like a wave. If (when) Russia defeats Kiev and NATO, the Macrons-Scholzs-Starmers will own the failure - not Putin, he will be victorious. They know it so they are panicking and stalling. After a lost war, the losing leaders are sent packing. That's just the way it works.

    So how about that Zelko? How many months will you give him?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?

    If you’re going to quote me, then at least get that part of it right, should be:

    what would be easier to do, change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or only one criminally insane Russian leader?

    🙂

  634. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    more likely, change in leaders, or a nuclear escalation.
     
    A change in Russian leadership would be most desirable. With Putler gone, the tight muzzle of censorship imposed on Russian society would be loosened up. You don't really believe that all of the Russian oligarchs are as hellbent in supporting this confrontation with the West, as is megalomaniac Putler including his quest to become the new Peter the Great? All of them acting as Putler's patsies, willing to end up in hell in order that their dwarf czar can go down in history as a big national/imperial heroe? How many huge oligarch fortunes have been decimated by this dwarf's megalomaniacal fantasies? Wouldn't business back to usual be far superior than what they have now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Sorry Mr. Hack but you are completely illiterate about the issue. It is simple, Ukraine and Russia were two federal entities in former Soviet Union and the border were loosely created by a non-Russian Bolsheviks who btw are (their offspring) now leading the US. After separation Russia is now reclaiming her land inhabited by Russians which was not done before the divorce. Similar issue is in Kazakhstan where Kazakhs are inhabited in the southern part only but Kazakhstan is in friendly alliance with Russia unlike UkieNazis.

    These Russian actions in Ukraine were enhanced by illegitimate Kiev regime (2014 removal of pro-Russian president) banning Russian language in disputed areas and most importantly by NATO morons ambition to take over Ukraine.

    You do not wish for the new leadership in Kremlin, people like Medvedev wants to nuke London.

  635. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    It's 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn't lost any face. A blonde shiksa.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    Jews marrying blonde shiksas isn’t really that novel. I had a Jewish friend in elementary school whose mother was a blonde shiksa. (For the most part, abominable politics, though)

    But a Brahmin picking up trash in 2024 is very novel. (Even if it is a PR stunt.). Hence, good joke material.

  636. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    It's 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn't lost any face. A blonde shiksa.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    It’s 2024. Jared Kushner married a shiksa and he hasn’t lost any face

    This is not true.

    In reality, he has lost a lot of face, by marrying into Trump’s family (that is, after Trump became a serious political candidate). Not full pariahhood, but many cancelled dinner party invitations. Some closed doors. Probably lost business contacts. Of course, we are talking about narrow social circles, so it is easy to replace the contacts with others, who don’t have derangement syndrome.

    He may have probably come out ahead, altogether. But there was a substantial debit among a certain crowd.

  637. @songbird
    Has Vivek lost caste by collecting the garbage?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @songbird

    LMAO. Trump is saying that he would have protected the Hindus in Bangladesh.

    And holding up a spectre of possible Hindu persecution by Progs in the US.

    He is wishing everyone happy Diwali, which I am pretty sure no normal American ever heard of before Life of Pi.

    [MORE]

  638. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    You don't have to buy it. But nobody is buying the nonsense about "25 years to consolidate" and good life, etc...Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.


    any politician that would promise to make that happen would be the one most likely to ascend the throne
     
    So what is it? An "authoritarian" dictatorship or people's choice? You need to be more coherent.

    In any case the support for the war in Russia is very high, anyone who would try to fold and say "come-on in NATO, you can do whatever you want with us....and those Russians in Ukraine, let them die, who cares..." would not last long.


    change 10 – 20 Euro leaders or one Russian leader?
     
    Leaders change when they fail. It doesn't matter how many there are, it goes like a wave. If (when) Russia defeats Kiev and NATO, the Macrons-Scholzs-Starmers will own the failure - not Putin, he will be victorious. They know it so they are panicking and stalling. After a lost war, the losing leaders are sent packing. That's just the way it works.

    So how about that Zelko? How many months will you give him?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    But nobody is buying the nonsense about “25 years to consolidate” and good life, etc…Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.

    Nonsense. This is part one of a three-part series that chronicles Putler’s rise to power. The other two parts can be located here on youtube, or even on Prime. Happy viewing and filling in the gaps in your observations.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    We can safely assume that anyone equating Stalin with today's Russia is a total moron. It is like comparing Trump to Hitler or Macron to Napoleon...a facile idiocy that doesn't pass the laugh test.

    You need help, maybe a book that is not all propaganda scribbles by ideological haters. You display a high level of disciplined and persistent emotional attachment with low level reasoning skills. Are you by any chance a Mormon? Or live around them?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  639. @Sean
    @Mikhail

    A rapprochement with communist China enabled the US to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union. An alliance with Russia (among others) will be necessary to ensure American dominance against a future mega power China. While it is far from certain that China, which has immense economies of scale, will surpass the US in industrial and economic wherewithal it would hardly be surprising.

    Hodges wants to really beat Russia in Ukraine to deter Russia from attacking countries that are full members of NATO, and the more probable but still hardly likely Chinese attack on Taiwan. Thinking strategically, victory for Ukraine with US/ Western aid would knock the stuffing out of Russia, and most likely lead to America being viewed by Russia as an implacable enemy. The best way to not get Taiwan invaded is for the Taiwanese government not to declare independence.

    A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance, unless China fails to grow into a giant Hong Kong, or despite hundreds of thousands of dead and a humiliating loss, Russia decided to turn and, trampling over the banners they proudly carried in 2022, become our bitch boy. I am not saying Russia ought to be allowed to really win in Ukraine but there are good long term strategic reasons for not going all out to have Russia trounced there. The current Western policy seems about right; the priority is to stop Putin running Russia into the ground in an attempt to secure complete victory in Ukraine

    I see no harm in diplomacy and leaving the door open to compromise with Russia, they have paid dearly for the land they would keep in a ceasefire, or even a final settlement. Though he does not lead a democracy, the man in the Kremlin is genuinely popular in Russia, so he has the political capital to alter tack and have his people look to a rapprochement with the West as an option. Not tomorrow but the day after tomorrow we are going to really need Russia.

    Replies: @sudden death, @YetAnotherAnon

    “A clear Russian defeat in Ukraine would be the end of American led Western global dominance”

    China won’t let Russia be defeated. They’ve just sanctioned the #1 US drone company who are sending drones to Ukraine.

    https://www.suasnews.com/2024/10/chinas-sanctions-on-skydio/

    We have always manufactured our drones in the U.S., and over the last few years we invested massively in bringing up supply for drone components outside of China. Batteries are one of the few components we have not yet moved out of China. We have a substantial stock of batteries on hand, and our team was already developing alternative suppliers. But right now we don’t expect new sources to come online until the spring of next year.

    In order to continue delivering X10s and supporting our customers, we have to take the drastic step of rationing batteries to one per drone. I know how critical drones are to your work, and how important having additional batteries is for many of your missions. It pains me to do this. We are extending the software license, warranty, and support term for all drones fulfilled with less than a full complement of batteries by the length of time it takes us to deliver all batteries in the kit.

    This is a clarifying moment for the drone industry. If there was ever any doubt, this action makes clear that the Chinese government will use supply chains as a weapon to advance their interests over ours.

    I can’t see the US waking up to China, myself. We’ll welcome you to the club of former empires.

  640. QCIC and Mr. Hack probably agree on some scfi books too.

    Have recently read Harry Harrison’s Deathword (1960). And liked it.

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    IMO, the plot was a bit more engaging than Stainless Steel Rat, which had interesting philosophy, but which I thought kind of dragged a bit in one section.

    Wouldn’t classify it as woke, though one could take an environmental message out of it. A paragraph or so that could be interpreted as narrowly-disguised scientific atheism. “Superstitions of barbarians”

    In 2024, a lot of the ideas of dangerous creatures or plants or higher gravity worlds come across as cliches. But it is still thought-provoking for how it touches on group culture and conflict.

    I chose to interpret it as promoting a message against urban fertility sinks and secular modernism. A return to the country and farm.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @songbird

    Potential spoiler below;)

    Very vaguely remember it, but if not mistaken or mixing up different stories, there was quite strong hippie like message like "hate breeds hate" and all those killer creatures were just reflecting back violent mindwaves and became docile in an instant when protagonist came into the wild while having sort of good natured vibes or something?

    Replies: @songbird

  641. @songbird
    QCIC and Mr. Hack probably agree on some scfi books too.

    Have recently read Harry Harrison's Deathword (1960). And liked it.

    IMO, the plot was a bit more engaging than Stainless Steel Rat, which had interesting philosophy, but which I thought kind of dragged a bit in one section.

    Wouldn't classify it as woke, though one could take an environmental message out of it. A paragraph or so that could be interpreted as narrowly-disguised scientific atheism. "Superstitions of barbarians"

    In 2024, a lot of the ideas of dangerous creatures or plants or higher gravity worlds come across as cliches. But it is still thought-provoking for how it touches on group culture and conflict.

    I chose to interpret it as promoting a message against urban fertility sinks and secular modernism. A return to the country and farm.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Potential spoiler below;)

    Very vaguely remember it, but if not mistaken or mixing up different stories, there was quite strong hippie like message like “hate breeds hate” and all those killer creatures were just reflecting back violent mindwaves and became docile in an instant when protagonist came into the wild while having sort of good natured vibes or something?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death


    there was quite strong hippie like message like “hate breeds hate” and all those killer creatures were just reflecting back violent mindwaves and became docile in an instant when protagonist came into the wild while having sort of good natured vibes or something?
     
    Lol. Yes, I think it was intended that way. Hippie or proto-hippie message.

    But, at the same time, one can look at it through different lenses or layers. Not as hamfisted as Cameron's Avatar, where the smurfs plugged their dreadlocks into animals to fly, or hugged each other and swayed together around tree brains, and the humans teamed up with the aliens to kill other humans.

    Doesn't really have an anticolonial or antiracist message. (As the two groups were descended from the same stock.) Or really anti-technology - more like that there is some golden mean of tech. Like Mennonites with telephones, medicine, and spaceships.

    There was a lot of group-orientated behavior, with the issue of survival raised. I don't feel like he was denouncing that so much as saying "don't make your stand in the city."

    The people in the city were in danger in part because they had forgotten their history, and so couldn't understand the trends. They were rootless.

    The hatred between the two groups could be treated in manifold ways. Like a warning of two-party politics. Or an acknowledgement that some groups have deep-seated hatreds that are unassailable for some individuals. Or that brother wars should be avoided.

    Keep in mind that the barbarians hated the urbanites, but got along okay with the planetary life, so it wasn't like a 100% complete disavowal of hatred.

    In a way, the planetary life cooperating to try to destroy the urbanites could be seen as bioleninism.

    The environment was never fully idealized, even for the barbarians.
  642. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I'm not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those "livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca". Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of "Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis"?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I’m not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those “livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca”. Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of “Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis”?

    You asked for it. This is quite a home run pitch you throw. Now watch the ball travel afar.

    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.
     
    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky's cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine's constitution.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.
     
    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It's getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.
     
    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! :-(

    Replies: @Mikhail

  643. @Sean
    @AP


    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now
     

    Assistance to 'Britain' was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1 , during which time the average US infantryman lasted less than two weeks before being wounded or killed (might be mentioned that in WW1 America did the same thing to help the British Empire wich was not a democracy but ruled by force ... actually the British Empire was not a a democracy in WW2 either, and there were severe famines while rice was being exported from India).

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting. In his famous TV OP ED report opining it was time fir the US (drafting 17 year olds) to negotiate over 'Nam, Walter Cronkite remarked on the number of young fit male civilians he saw in Saigon. Joining the Ukrainian army right now is not ambushing Russian columns as it was when there were hordes of enthusiastic males it's being in a frontline dug out over--against arrays of Russian firepower, and days before medvac if you get wounded.


    Sky News: 'Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost'
     
    It is said that Ukrainian artillery is so accurate it gets kills with fmuch less shell expenditure. However, the Ukrainians are using drones as replacements for what they are short on: artillery. The evidence for this is that Ukrainian kills of Russians are often seen in FPV drone footage, but the most economical use of drones is for artillery spotting so enemy can be got a bunch at a time. The Russians are bunching up far less too, especially in attack. Ukraine forces are increasingly being poorly handled by a commander beholden to Zelensky. Russia got them to move Ukraine's precious reserve formations with a feint at Kharkiv, and the Ukrainians then tried the same trick with Kursk but have been completely unable to draw off the good units of the Russian army, and actually it is more a case of elite Ukrainian units being well out of Donbass inferno by being over-against barely capable Russians and even Koreans now. The upshot is there are not the good units to counterattack Russian incursions into the key areas of the Ukrainian defence line after it gets seven bells knocked out its morale by constant shelling.

    Replies: @AP

    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now

    Assistance to ‘Britain’ was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1

    I was talking about Lend Lease help to Britain, before the USA entered World War II. There were pro-Germans in the USA also opposing this help for the sake of “peace.”

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting.

    Ukraine isn’t asking for Western troops but for Western arms. Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AP

    Realistically, Biden can only give so much. The corrupt USMIC is limited in what it can produce. Ditto the lead others in NATO.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.
     
    And yet Donald Trump, Jr. still considers Biden to be an Uber-hawk on Ukraine!

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4882868-negotiate-with-moscow-to-end-the-ukraine-war-and-prevent-nuclear-devastation/

    What does that say about him and about MAGA in general?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  644. @songbird
    @Coconuts


    In the 2000s and early 2010s they seemed to be importing a lot of Swedish crime dramas onto UK TV
     
    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.

    TBH, the only murder show that I ever liked even a little was Murder, She Wrote with Angela Landsbury. Mostly because it seemed relatively less degenerate. I can still remember some wokeness to it - but nothing compared to today.

    It is an old show that had an older audience. Landsbury tried to employ out-of-work, older actors, so there is almost a confucian quality to it. She didn't have kids, but it was explained away as some medical thing, with her or her husband. (She was a widow) She had plenty of nephews or nieces as guest stars. The fact that the show was mainly set in Maine and filmed in the '80s limited the diversity.

    They say the show Columbo was really big in Japan.

    We used to have those turnip lanterns at Halloween, with small faces carved into them
     
    I remember a pumpkin being featured prominently in the Wallace and Grommit Were-Rabbit movie.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing - maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.

    There was some diversity in the Swedish programs, and occasionally I remember overtly woke, or PC as it would have been back then, story lines. British TV itself was much milder in terms of diversity at that time though other forms of progressive content (say about LGBT) had been current for a lot longer. The really overt propaganda stuff gained momentum more from the late 2010s and took off after 2020.

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    I think those Scandinavian shows became popular because they were well made, and probably relatively cheap to buy in ready made. They used to be shown in the 9-11pm slot on Saturdays on one of the BBC channels.

    Murder She Wrote used to be shown here as well, we used to watch it sometimes when I was younger. I associate it with Perry Mason series with the guy in a wheelchair, I seem to remember them being shown at the same time.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing – maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.

    Are some monster ones grown? I don’t think conditions for growing them are as favourable here, you see them around a lot more than used to be the case though. My wife keeps telling me about the official Belarusian news channels leading with stories about competitive vegetable growing, it got me interested in improving my Russian again, enough to be able to follow them.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.

    Is it related to the witch trials, or where some of these traditions originated?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts


    I associate it with Perry Mason series with the guy in a wheelchair, I seem to remember them being shown at the same time.
     
    Ironsides. Never watched it, but they rebooted it and raceswapped him I think. They wanted to raceswap Murder, She Wrote but it fell through. In Japan, there is actually a Japanese Columbo show (they made it decades after the original import was a hit), which I find really bizarre and funny - it is said that the underdog/slob character really appeals to their psychology.

    IMO, it is kind of sad how this cultural crossover in Europe was of diverse murder shows, which are often considered cheap to make and not something more uplifting or unique and identitarian.

    Are some monster ones grown?
     
    Yes, it is commonly known that, once they reach a certain stage, you can actually see them "grow", which I suppose is more like them taking in water, or something. Have seen some pretty big ones myself at agricultural fairs. Over the last 50 years or so the record has really grown. Of course, each one produces a lot of seeds.

    This is just a local fair: record 2,480 pounds in 2022. World record is higher.
    https://www.topsfieldfair.org/explore/pumpkin-weigh-in/

    Is it related to the witch trials
     
    yes, the witch trials had a certain prominence in 19th century American literature (and beyond) the fame of which lent itself to Salem being invoked in many Hollywood productions. And they have a few museums there. As a result, it became a kind of Mecca for adults who wanted to dress up for Halloween. In a way, it is kind of like the Halloween equivalent of aliens to Roswell, NM.
  645. @sudden death
    @songbird

    Potential spoiler below;)

    Very vaguely remember it, but if not mistaken or mixing up different stories, there was quite strong hippie like message like "hate breeds hate" and all those killer creatures were just reflecting back violent mindwaves and became docile in an instant when protagonist came into the wild while having sort of good natured vibes or something?

    Replies: @songbird

    there was quite strong hippie like message like “hate breeds hate” and all those killer creatures were just reflecting back violent mindwaves and became docile in an instant when protagonist came into the wild while having sort of good natured vibes or something?

    Lol. Yes, I think it was intended that way. Hippie or proto-hippie message.

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    But, at the same time, one can look at it through different lenses or layers. Not as hamfisted as Cameron’s Avatar, where the smurfs plugged their dreadlocks into animals to fly, or hugged each other and swayed together around tree brains, and the humans teamed up with the aliens to kill other humans.

    Doesn’t really have an anticolonial or antiracist message. (As the two groups were descended from the same stock.) Or really anti-technology – more like that there is some golden mean of tech. Like Mennonites with telephones, medicine, and spaceships.

    There was a lot of group-orientated behavior, with the issue of survival raised. I don’t feel like he was denouncing that so much as saying “don’t make your stand in the city.”

    The people in the city were in danger in part because they had forgotten their history, and so couldn’t understand the trends. They were rootless.

    The hatred between the two groups could be treated in manifold ways. Like a warning of two-party politics. Or an acknowledgement that some groups have deep-seated hatreds that are unassailable for some individuals. Or that brother wars should be avoided.

    Keep in mind that the barbarians hated the urbanites, but got along okay with the planetary life, so it wasn’t like a 100% complete disavowal of hatred.

    In a way, the planetary life cooperating to try to destroy the urbanites could be seen as bioleninism.

    The environment was never fully idealized, even for the barbarians.

  646. @AP
    @Sean


    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now


    Assistance to ‘Britain’ was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1
     
    I was talking about Lend Lease help to Britain, before the USA entered World War II. There were pro-Germans in the USA also opposing this help for the sake of "peace."

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting.
     
    Ukraine isn't asking for Western troops but for Western arms. Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. XYZ

    Realistically, Biden can only give so much. The corrupt USMIC is limited in what it can produce. Ditto the lead others in NATO.

  647. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    vaguely heard about this but am not familiar with the material. I wonder if part of it was that the audience was fleeing from the diversity in British television? But maybe these other countries had the same sort of output.
     
    There was some diversity in the Swedish programs, and occasionally I remember overtly woke, or PC as it would have been back then, story lines. British TV itself was much milder in terms of diversity at that time though other forms of progressive content (say about LGBT) had been current for a lot longer. The really overt propaganda stuff gained momentum more from the late 2010s and took off after 2020.



    I think those Scandinavian shows became popular because they were well made, and probably relatively cheap to buy in ready made. They used to be shown in the 9-11pm slot on Saturdays on one of the BBC channels.

    Murder She Wrote used to be shown here as well, we used to watch it sometimes when I was younger. I associate it with Perry Mason series with the guy in a wheelchair, I seem to remember them being shown at the same time.

    This is actually one of the aspects of modern American Halloween that I find the most appealing – maybe because it has a rural touch, relating to genetics. The idea of a contest for growing the biggest pumpkin.
     
    Are some monster ones grown? I don't think conditions for growing them are as favourable here, you see them around a lot more than used to be the case though. My wife keeps telling me about the official Belarusian news channels leading with stories about competitive vegetable growing, it got me interested in improving my Russian again, enough to be able to follow them.

    Salem is often considered the Halloween capital of the US. There have been recent brush fires there, and I could smell it yesterday from a few miles away.
     
    Is it related to the witch trials, or where some of these traditions originated?

    Replies: @songbird

    I associate it with Perry Mason series with the guy in a wheelchair, I seem to remember them being shown at the same time.

    Ironsides. Never watched it, but they rebooted it and raceswapped him I think.

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    They wanted to raceswap Murder, She Wrote but it fell through. In Japan, there is actually a Japanese Columbo show (they made it decades after the original import was a hit), which I find really bizarre and funny – it is said that the underdog/slob character really appeals to their psychology.

    IMO, it is kind of sad how this cultural crossover in Europe was of diverse murder shows, which are often considered cheap to make and not something more uplifting or unique and identitarian.

    Are some monster ones grown?

    Yes, it is commonly known that, once they reach a certain stage, you can actually see them “grow”, which I suppose is more like them taking in water, or something. Have seen some pretty big ones myself at agricultural fairs. Over the last 50 years or so the record has really grown. Of course, each one produces a lot of seeds.

    This is just a local fair: record 2,480 pounds in 2022. World record is higher.
    https://www.topsfieldfair.org/explore/pumpkin-weigh-in/

    Is it related to the witch trials

    yes, the witch trials had a certain prominence in 19th century American literature (and beyond) the fame of which lent itself to Salem being invoked in many Hollywood productions. And they have a few museums there. As a result, it became a kind of Mecca for adults who wanted to dress up for Halloween. In a way, it is kind of like the Halloween equivalent of aliens to Roswell, NM.

  648. @AP
    @Sean


    Opposing help to a country fighting a conventional war that has been invaded by another country is not “pro peace.” It is “pro invader”, “pro occupation” and “pro bloody guerilla war.”

    This was true of Britain (and the USSR) during World War II and of Ukraine now


    Assistance to ‘Britain’ was American army in Europe and directly fighting Germany in WW1
     
    I was talking about Lend Lease help to Britain, before the USA entered World War II. There were pro-Germans in the USA also opposing this help for the sake of "peace."

    Moreover the young British were conscripted while young Ukrainians (25 is well over prime fighting age) are avoiding fighting.
     
    Ukraine isn't asking for Western troops but for Western arms. Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. XYZ

    Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.

    And yet Donald Trump, Jr. still considers Biden to be an Uber-hawk on Ukraine!

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4882868-negotiate-with-moscow-to-end-the-ukraine-war-and-prevent-nuclear-devastation/

    What does that say about him and about MAGA in general?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. XYZ

    Comparatively (to the neocons, neolibs and svidos) quite astute when it comes to the NATO proxy war against Russia.

  649. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Biden only gave 10% of what Congress authorized.
     
    And yet Donald Trump, Jr. still considers Biden to be an Uber-hawk on Ukraine!

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4882868-negotiate-with-moscow-to-end-the-ukraine-war-and-prevent-nuclear-devastation/

    What does that say about him and about MAGA in general?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Comparatively (to the neocons, neolibs and svidos) quite astute when it comes to the NATO proxy war against Russia.

  650. @AP
    @Mikel


    AP’s position in this respect is typical, although somewhat extreme. He can’t hide his disdain for Eastern Ukrainians, who he keeps portraying as inferior to Galicians in all respects,
     
    On what measure are Easterners superior? The only thing is that they generated more GDP.

    But I won't criticize them too much now because they are on the front lines and Russia is killing them and destroying their cities. Really doing it, not doing what they accused Poroshenko of doing.


    but he wants to keep them (or at least their territory) in the same state, even if that means killing lots of them.
     
    I'm fine with Donbas and Crimea being out of Ukraine, but not with Russian plans to expand into areas that want to stay in Ukraine.

    Obviously, Eastern Ukrainians must have always realized what people in the west of the country thought about them
     
    They also thought they were superior, because their region with its coal and steel produced more $$$ so they thought they were feeding everyone. Until, it turns out, Ukraine ended up doing better without their most money-making part.

    But the important thing here is why should the US get involved in these old ethnic disputes at all?
     
    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA. Ukraine being integrated with the West prevents that from happening. And unlike in the case of Iraq, Ukraine wants that.

    For the average citizen of Missouri risking a hot war with a nuclear superpower
     
    There was no risk of a hot war with a nuclear power by providing Ukraine with military assistance. Russia isn't led by suicidal death cultists.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    On what measure are Easterners superior?

    I don’t know. And I don’t care. I have a much more solid opinion on the old rivalry between Biscayans and Gipuzkoans but I wouldn’t expect you or anyone else on this blog to care about it in the slightest so I will keep it to myself.

    I think I actually do understand why Western Ukrainians feel superior to the Easterners and why Eastern Ukrainians were opposed to letting the Westerners run the country. I can also understand how 25 years after independence many people in Ukraine felt that their country was lagging far behind everyone in their neighborhood (including Russia) and wanted to follow the path of integration with the EU. But all of this is just because I was born in Europe and have visited Kiev and several countries neighboring Ukraine. The people that live around me in the US would have no clue what I’m talking about if I spoke about Galicia and its problems. As a matter of fact, not many years ago I would have myself assumed that anyone talking about Galicia was speaking about the region in Spain with the same name. I think I only had a vague idea of some region in Poland having a similar name at some point in history.

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion, let alone running any risk of a dangerous war. Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical as the fear that Moscow will march on Berlin or Warsaw. What for? As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives.

    To the extent that worrying about a strong Russia is a foreign policy concern, the only rational approach is to keep relations as good as possible, address any concerns they may have of being encroached by a hostile military alliance and stay away of ethnic conflicts where neither the US nor the EU has any business other than trying to mediate.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war and the most dangerous conflict for the US since the Cuban missiles crisis, it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek. Sadly, he has already given his support to Mike Johnson as future leader of the House and is totally distracted while the neocons maneuver to replace McConnell with another swampy like Thune. The more sane voices on foreign policy he surrounds himself with, the better.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion
     
    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical
     
    It's not nonsensical at all, indeed it is the main goal of Russia's foreign policy. Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow's rule. And from there, to expand. “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives
     
    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can, opposing American imperialism even on this continent. The larger and stronger it is, the more resources we will need to keep it in check.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war
     
    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed, thanks to which they (unlike Ukraine or Georgia) have had peace.

    it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek.
     
    The Russian tool, the cynical immigrant oligarch, the psychopath, the foreign swindler of Americans.

    Rule by this sort of circus around its vulgar populist ringmaster (or declining-into-senility tool of the South African oligarchs?) might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    After writing my posts I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump's danger (I don't read him but saw him mentioned on twitter).

    https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/acx-endorses-harris-oliver-or-stein

    "You don’t get from a flourishing democracy to Hugo Chavez in one leap - at least not without a politician younger and more vigorous than Trump. But our democracy isn’t entirely flourishing right now, and frogs are easily boiled. My threat model is less “Trump himself is exactly like Chavez”, and more “Trump’s election shows there are minimal consequences for violating norms; he brings us 10% closer to a banana republic; during the next election, both candidates violate the norms, the next guy brings us 20% closer to a banana republic, and so on.” The Republicans are already arguing that the Democrats’ authoritarian experimentation with cancel culture means it’s only fair that they get to have a mobocratic censorship regime too, if they ever get back in power. Once Trump escalates a bit, the Democrat after him will feel the same way and escalate even more. There will be plenty more chances to stop the cycle - but, like the proverb about planting the tree, the best time was ten years ago and the second-best time is now."



    https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1850618232530673818

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    , @Mikel
    @Mikel


    Agree: Mikhail
     
    Thanks for agreeing with me, Mikhail. But one of the best refutations of AP's crazy theory of Russia trying to resurrect the USSR is the fact that Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West, which is not exactly the way your favorite sources like to portray those events. The Russian pincer attack on Kiev was repulsed by the Ukrainian forces defending the capital by themselves. Imagine such a weak country trying to become the USSR that defeated the Nazis, occupied half of Europe and exported its revolution to all parts of the world.

    The sad part though is that the longer this war continues, the more militarily capable the Russians become because, as every sane person has kept saying since 2014, they have escalation advantage in that region and a strong martial culture. The West is preventing a takeover of Ukraine at the cost of making Russia a much more dangerous enemy than it ever was. If a strengthened Russia, perhaps in alliance with China, Iran and North Korea, ever becomes an open enemy of the US, I am on the wrong side of the divide, along with my whole family. This does worry me and is an additional reason to vote for people who want to end that conflict. Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in some reward for the aggressor, which is not fair, but both Ukraine and the West have made stupid mistakes and there's no fixing this situation without paying a price for them. Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz, who don't have any particular ideas on the matter other than mindless globalist inertia.

    Replies: @A123

  651. Putin’s Dr. No confirms that North Korean troops will be used in combat:

    Which means MOA and Larry C Johnson were wrong……….again.

  652. https://thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com/2024/10/15/destabilizers-inc-nato-will-squeeze-ukraine-to-the-last-drop/comment-page-2/#comment-101792

    Kuh-yiv is not going to get Tomahawks; they’re very expensive, the USA does not have many of them and they’re sufficiently complicated that the Ukrainians could not operate them, and would have to have a ‘guest crew’ of Americans. But the request does follow the pattern of asking for stuff Zelensky knows will be refused, paving the way to a sober statement that Ukraine fought heroically, but in the end was let down by its western partners. Which is more or less accurate, although it never really stood a chance of winning. Its losses were too great, too fast, and it wasted a lot of resources on hopeless defense of several strategic towns long after there was almost nothing left of them.

    Zelensky was allegedly quite put out that the Americans mentioned his Tomahawks request, because it was supposed to be a secret. But given that it was a non-starter from the beginning, that might be just so everyone gets to hear about it in a context that he looks like the good guy, and America looks like the bad guy.

  653. @Mikel
    @AP


    On what measure are Easterners superior?
     
    I don't know. And I don't care. I have a much more solid opinion on the old rivalry between Biscayans and Gipuzkoans but I wouldn't expect you or anyone else on this blog to care about it in the slightest so I will keep it to myself.

    I think I actually do understand why Western Ukrainians feel superior to the Easterners and why Eastern Ukrainians were opposed to letting the Westerners run the country. I can also understand how 25 years after independence many people in Ukraine felt that their country was lagging far behind everyone in their neighborhood (including Russia) and wanted to follow the path of integration with the EU. But all of this is just because I was born in Europe and have visited Kiev and several countries neighboring Ukraine. The people that live around me in the US would have no clue what I'm talking about if I spoke about Galicia and its problems. As a matter of fact, not many years ago I would have myself assumed that anyone talking about Galicia was speaking about the region in Spain with the same name. I think I only had a vague idea of some region in Poland having a similar name at some point in history.

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.
     
    That's a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion, let alone running any risk of a dangerous war. Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That's as nonsensical as the fear that Moscow will march on Berlin or Warsaw. What for? As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives.

    To the extent that worrying about a strong Russia is a foreign policy concern, the only rational approach is to keep relations as good as possible, address any concerns they may have of being encroached by a hostile military alliance and stay away of ethnic conflicts where neither the US nor the EU has any business other than trying to mediate.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war and the most dangerous conflict for the US since the Cuban missiles crisis, it's time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek. Sadly, he has already given his support to Mike Johnson as future leader of the House and is totally distracted while the neocons maneuver to replace McConnell with another swampy like Thune. The more sane voices on foreign policy he surrounds himself with, the better.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion

    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical

    It’s not nonsensical at all, indeed it is the main goal of Russia’s foreign policy. Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow’s rule. And from there, to expand. “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can, opposing American imperialism even on this continent. The larger and stronger it is, the more resources we will need to keep it in check.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war

    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed, thanks to which they (unlike Ukraine or Georgia) have had peace.

    it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek.

    The Russian tool, the cynical immigrant oligarch, the psychopath, the foreign swindler of Americans.

    Rule by this sort of circus around its vulgar populist ringmaster (or declining-into-senility tool of the South African oligarchs?) might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    After writing my posts I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump’s danger (I don’t read him but saw him mentioned on twitter).

    https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/acx-endorses-harris-oliver-or-stein

    “You don’t get from a flourishing democracy to Hugo Chavez in one leap – at least not without a politician younger and more vigorous than Trump. But our democracy isn’t entirely flourishing right now, and frogs are easily boiled. My threat model is less “Trump himself is exactly like Chavez”, and more “Trump’s election shows there are minimal consequences for violating norms; he brings us 10% closer to a banana republic; during the next election, both candidates violate the norms, the next guy brings us 20% closer to a banana republic, and so on.” The Republicans are already arguing that the Democrats’ authoritarian experimentation with cancel culture means it’s only fair that they get to have a mobocratic censorship regime too, if they ever get back in power. Once Trump escalates a bit, the Democrat after him will feel the same way and escalate even more. There will be plenty more chances to stop the cycle – but, like the proverb about planting the tree, the best time was ten years ago and the second-best time is now.”

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    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    How expensive was the Cold War again?
     
    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability? And we should seek rapprochement and condemn these neocons? And those people who want the US to borrow billions to promote foreign entanglements and hostilities?

    Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow’s rule. And from there, to expand. “
     
    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable. If on the other hand, it is some sort of Eastern Slav ethnostate, as unlikely as it seems - seeing what is going on in the West - perhaps that would be for the best.

    Soviet puppet states in EE had their underpinnings set up before nukes. And involved millions of casualties to Russians.

    What uniting ideology could they adopt, which would actually be more destructive than the one that now rules the West?

    I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump’s danger
     
    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn't Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mikel
    @AP


    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”
     
    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?

    This kind of rhetoric by fringe Russian figures (and the opposite one, from more mainstream ones) has always been there. Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed Clinton helped Yeltsin consolidate the new regime in Russia, which allowed those characters to appear.

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can
     

    Because Russians are genetically determined to "cause trouble"? Russia didn't start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance that they were denied entry into and found the West promoting color revolutions in their neighborhood. What's exactly strange about a dictator (or semi-dictator) like Putin not wanting to follow the fate of his close neighbor Yanukovich (or Lukashenko, who almost also got deposed with Western support)? If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn't it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?

    That all these fantasies about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR or march on Berlin are ridiculous does not mean that many Russians do not regard Belarus and Ukraine like "fake" nations. That is a totally different thing. But this kind of sentiments are common everywhere. Spaniards don't regard Basques as different enough from themselves (even though linguistically and genetically they are more different than Russians and Belorussians) and Basques don't regard the Navarrese as different enough from themselves. Many Ukrainians, Belorussians, Basques and Navarrese actually agree with their bigger neighbors. It is ridiculous for the US and the EU to think that they can solve these disputes and decide which is the good and the bad side in each of them.


    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed
     
    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country. But again, from the perspective of the average citizen of Missouri, what is more important: to prevent war with a nuclear superpower or to solve old ethnic disputes on the other side of the oceans?

    The Russian tool
     
    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.
     
    We'll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn't have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for and who the Americans who don't mind the US becoming invaded by millions from the Third World are voting for. It's not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn't care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    , @emil nikola richard
    @AP

    Slatestarcodex is Jew establishment. Of course he hates Trump, the deplorables, garbage, &c. Do you ever read these jack asses you cite?

  654. @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    I was watching 60 minutes yesterday ( one of main russian political shows) and very surprisingly I find that Fitso is being interviewed by us!.......and that he intends to attend Victory Day next year ( 80th) if invited.....and that there was another khokhol/khokhol-lover who was armed and intending to assassinate him 2 weeks before.
    It was pleasing to see how eager he is to attend.


    They can’t back off – the Euro leaders have talked themselves into a complete dead end.

     

    The most corrupt country on the planet (404), now has zero motivation to de-corrupt or suicide itself less. This sick financial practise of loaning 404 as much money as they want , with the "repayment" coming solely from interest of frozen Russian reserves just encourages all the wrong people to have it in their interest to extend 404's annihilation in the SMO, and encourages not just not fighting against corruption.......but creates even more avenues for corruption.

    If evil in its most pure evil form isn't neccesarily sinister direct physical action causing harm....then this BS financial mechanism probably is.
    Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US/Gayropa. If that is the time cycle then weapons production isn't too much of an issue. So it is only the personnel/lemming issue of the VSU that we can solve and are solving by reducing them daily, week, monthly in the numbers that we are. Further aided by Banderastans abysmal demographics/birth rate and the expectation that the insurgency potential will be next to zero after the SMO ends.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US… it is only the personnel

    There are enough Ukies left – a few million potential recruits. They don’t need more. What is more likely is a gradual and then sudden collapse in the willingness to fight. There has been self-selection with the more motivated fighting up till now. But unless a country has a massive demographic boom and a constant new supply of maturing men the will inevitably tapers off. So no “20 years” is possible.

    Financially it is one thing to spend $200 billion on a kooky but mildly feasible plan, but to keep on doing it with no chance of success is absurd. The idea was always that Ukraine’s riches will pay for it – Ukies will repay the West by giving away their resources. That is now unrealistic. These men are not rich because they flush money down the drain on losing crusades…We already see the pull-back.

    Robert Fico is the ultimate realist, he understands how this will go and how it will end. So does Orban and the Austrians. It is the morons from far away who don’t get it – for them it is just lines on the map and undigested cherry-picked history narratives. See AP, Mr. Hacks… on how their minds simply can’t shake off the deep brain-washing. They see that it is not working but the brainwash is too deep, they will scream nonsense and then scuttle away. Quite sad…

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    I can't see the standard lazy, fat American pig/blood-libel "elite" wanting this settled by the time of the 250th anniversary of Pindostan. Actually, among other factors I think it could be a motivating factor for them to force the continuation of SMO.
    It would be cheap tv "entertainment" for some Americans with them not being the cannon fodder that the ukronazis are. The gutter part of the American mentality would welcome a big confrontation at the time of the 250th anniversary, particularly if the losses for them are , mostly unaccounted for anyway financial losses and equipment losses.

    Not that I support what is happening, but I do welcome very much the principle from Netanyahu of saying f**k you to the American election and Israel doing their actions independent to this freakshow. Disappointment that Iran haven't co-ordinated their so-called response to Israel to time with the election. As for us - if the progress is so good that our high positioned officials have not been interested in commentating on the US election ( such as strongly criticising Trump for ensuring the SMO happened because of his either incompetence or bad actions during his presidency), then that is fine. IF though the failure to say anything aggressive or do something is because of some BS concern about not wanting to disrupt the US election - then it is a shameful action by ourselves. It's appears a recurring pattern of the last 60 years of history for countries to give too much attention to the US election ahead of the objective.

    One of the biggest ways of changing the world, other than reducing the power of the dollar, is saying f**k you to the pindostan election.

  655. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    But nobody is buying the nonsense about “25 years to consolidate” and good life, etc…Those are platitudes not supported by any observation.
     
    Nonsense. This is part one of a three-part series that chronicles Putler's rise to power. The other two parts can be located here on youtube, or even on Prime. Happy viewing and filling in the gaps in your observations.

    https://youtu.be/VEOd9tnX1g0

    Replies: @Beckow

    We can safely assume that anyone equating Stalin with today’s Russia is a total moron. It is like comparing Trump to Hitler or Macron to Napoleon…a facile idiocy that doesn’t pass the laugh test.

    You need help, maybe a book that is not all propaganda scribbles by ideological haters. You display a high level of disciplined and persistent emotional attachment with low level reasoning skills. Are you by any chance a Mormon? Or live around them?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    An even bigger moron is one who refuses to acknowledge Putler's role as chief officer of the FSB. The historical background provided within this documentary helps to highlight the unbroken thread that has evolved and that has never been broken between the CHEKA and todays most recent iteration of Russia's secret service. What's the matter, you didn't find Putler's early rise from East Germany to St. Petersburg to Moscow to be of any interest?

    Replies: @Beckow

  656. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "So you would agree that the war was a mistake?"

    No, it was deliberate US policy. Obviously they'd have preferred Russia to accept the fait accompli in 2014 - "to subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of statemanship" - but they were happy to fight to the last Ukrainian, sunder Russia and Germany - it all looked really good in summer 2002.

    Now, it looks more as if the United States policy towards Russia is the beginning of the end of US world hegemony.

    I hadn't realised until I read Eamonn Fingleton's book how close China and Japan are - the spats over WW2 and the Senkakus being mostly for US consumption. China will keep stringing the US along, as Chinese strength grows and US strength declines - but if and when the US ever wakes up and confronts China, it may find Japan on their side. They may never wake up of course.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    What has happened with Fingleton, he used to be on the Peter Myers mailing list that I was on twenty years ago, I suppose he might have passed away.

    Long given up on trying to understand Japan, an enigma.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @LondonBob

    He was still blogging in February this year.

    https://www.fingleton.net/protectionism-is-almost-mainstream/

  657. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Has there been a major shift in Ukrainians being disgusted with the invasion of their country from Russia, more Ukrainians doing handstands in support of Putler and his minions continued bombings of apartment buildings and other civilian enclaves? I’m not aware of this, and am in contact at least weekly with those “livin the Russian sponsored la vida loca”. Tell me more, oh great and all-knowing sage of “Indepence, Foreign Policy and Media Analysis”?
     
    You asked for it. This is quite a home run pitch you throw. Now watch the ball travel afar.

    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.

    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky’s cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine’s constitution.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.

    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It’s getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.

    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! 🙁

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky’s cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine’s constitution.
     
    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine isn't more pluralistic than Russia. Pro-Kiev regime advocates project when they talk about politically motivated suppression and murders in Russia.

    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It’s getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.
     
    Kiev regime is the side using "meatwaive tactics" (meatwave) as you put it, thereby explaining why they complain of being so short of manpower. Russia and the DPRK have a military relationship that doesn't include the need for DPRK forces to fight the Kiev regime.

    People in Russia aren't fleeing military service like what's evident in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.


    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.
     
    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!
     
    More like experiencing warped neocon-neolib perspectives versus a more realistic approach better serving the interests of Georgia.

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! 🙁
     
    Not a Yankee fan.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  658. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    We can safely assume that anyone equating Stalin with today's Russia is a total moron. It is like comparing Trump to Hitler or Macron to Napoleon...a facile idiocy that doesn't pass the laugh test.

    You need help, maybe a book that is not all propaganda scribbles by ideological haters. You display a high level of disciplined and persistent emotional attachment with low level reasoning skills. Are you by any chance a Mormon? Or live around them?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    An even bigger moron is one who refuses to acknowledge Putler’s role as chief officer of the FSB. The historical background provided within this documentary helps to highlight the unbroken thread that has evolved and that has never been broken between the CHEKA and todays most recent iteration of Russia’s secret service. What’s the matter, you didn’t find Putler’s early rise from East Germany to St. Petersburg to Moscow to be of any interest?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    George Bush senior was the head of CIA...Putin was a low level young operative in Dresden. Get a hold of yourself, your paranoia is pathological....

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  659. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Zelensky is the little dwarf dictator who cancelled a recently scheduled presidential vote unlike Putin.
     
    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky's cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine's constitution.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine is where people seek to flee service in the armed forces, much unlike the situation in Russia.
     
    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It's getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.
     
    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! :-(

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky’s cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine’s constitution.

    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine isn’t more pluralistic than Russia. Pro-Kiev regime advocates project when they talk about politically motivated suppression and murders in Russia.

    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It’s getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.

    Kiev regime is the side using “meatwaive tactics” (meatwave) as you put it, thereby explaining why they complain of being so short of manpower. Russia and the DPRK have a military relationship that doesn’t include the need for DPRK forces to fight the Kiev regime.

    People in Russia aren’t fleeing military service like what’s evident in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.

    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.

    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!

    More like experiencing warped neocon-neolib perspectives versus a more realistic approach better serving the interests of Georgia.

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! 🙁

    Not a Yankee fan.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Not a Yankee fan.
     
    A lifelong New Yorker not being a Yankee fan? It's like somebody being born in the US and living there his whole life and always taking Russia' side in any conflict against the US. You really are an oddball Mickey, and need to have your head examined! :-)

    Replies: @Mikhail

  660. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    An even bigger moron is one who refuses to acknowledge Putler's role as chief officer of the FSB. The historical background provided within this documentary helps to highlight the unbroken thread that has evolved and that has never been broken between the CHEKA and todays most recent iteration of Russia's secret service. What's the matter, you didn't find Putler's early rise from East Germany to St. Petersburg to Moscow to be of any interest?

    Replies: @Beckow

    George Bush senior was the head of CIA…Putin was a low level young operative in Dresden. Get a hold of yourself, your paranoia is pathological….

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Watching documentaries that chronicle the career of Putler could only be seen as a sign of pathological paranoia by somebody cutoff from the world, somebody that's real parochial and narrow in his interests. I never liked Bush either. :-(

    Replies: @Beckow

  661. Biden steals the spotlight for another day: (1)

    “A Breach Of Protocol”: White House Overrode Stenographers, Altered “Garbage” Transcript

    According to the email, the press office demanded that stenographers quickly produce a transcript of Biden’s call with Latino activists to discuss Hinchicliffe’s comments, while Biden’s social media team posted on X that he was not calling all Trump supporters garbage – and that he was specifically referring to the “hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump’s supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally.”

    The two-person stenography team on duty that evening, a “typer” and a “proofer” said that any edits to the official transcript would have to be approved by their supervisor, the head of the stenographer’s office – who was unavailable. Because of this, the White House press office went ahead and published an altered transcript on the White House website and distributed it to the press and social media in a mad scramble.

    The supervisor did not like that…

    “If there is a difference in interpretation, the Press Office may choose to withhold the transcript but cannot edit it independently,” wrote the supervisor, adding “Our Stenography Office transcript — released to our distro, which includes the National Archives — is now different than the version edited and released to the public by Press Office staff.”

    Is this a deliberate attempt by “Team Biden” to undercut Harris?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/breach-protocol-white-house-overrode-stenographers-altered-garbage-transcript

  662. @AP
    @Mikel


    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion
     
    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical
     
    It's not nonsensical at all, indeed it is the main goal of Russia's foreign policy. Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow's rule. And from there, to expand. “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives
     
    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can, opposing American imperialism even on this continent. The larger and stronger it is, the more resources we will need to keep it in check.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war
     
    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed, thanks to which they (unlike Ukraine or Georgia) have had peace.

    it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek.
     
    The Russian tool, the cynical immigrant oligarch, the psychopath, the foreign swindler of Americans.

    Rule by this sort of circus around its vulgar populist ringmaster (or declining-into-senility tool of the South African oligarchs?) might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    After writing my posts I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump's danger (I don't read him but saw him mentioned on twitter).

    https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/acx-endorses-harris-oliver-or-stein

    "You don’t get from a flourishing democracy to Hugo Chavez in one leap - at least not without a politician younger and more vigorous than Trump. But our democracy isn’t entirely flourishing right now, and frogs are easily boiled. My threat model is less “Trump himself is exactly like Chavez”, and more “Trump’s election shows there are minimal consequences for violating norms; he brings us 10% closer to a banana republic; during the next election, both candidates violate the norms, the next guy brings us 20% closer to a banana republic, and so on.” The Republicans are already arguing that the Democrats’ authoritarian experimentation with cancel culture means it’s only fair that they get to have a mobocratic censorship regime too, if they ever get back in power. Once Trump escalates a bit, the Democrat after him will feel the same way and escalate even more. There will be plenty more chances to stop the cycle - but, like the proverb about planting the tree, the best time was ten years ago and the second-best time is now."



    https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1850618232530673818

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability? And we should seek rapprochement and condemn these neocons? And those people who want the US to borrow billions to promote foreign entanglements and hostilities?

    Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow’s rule. And from there, to expand. “

    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable. If on the other hand, it is some sort of Eastern Slav ethnostate, as unlikely as it seems – seeing what is going on in the West – perhaps that would be for the best.

    Soviet puppet states in EE had their underpinnings set up before nukes. And involved millions of casualties to Russians.

    What uniting ideology could they adopt, which would actually be more destructive than the one that now rules the West?

    I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump’s danger

    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn’t Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability?
     
    By contributing to the end of the USSR Brzezinski helped to end the Cold War.

    Those who want to stand aside and let Russia reconstitute the USSR want a new one.

    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable.
     
    Because Tamerlane wasn't formidable?

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.

    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn’t Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?
     
    I know almost nothing about him but the essay I linked to was good IMO.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.



    https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

  663. Russia’s Swift March Forward in Ukraine’s East

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/31/world/europe/russia-gains-ukraine-maps.html

    no paywall: https://archive.ph/XlxYU#selection-4319.0-4319.46

    Alarms in the New York Times. I loaded the Institute for Study War map for the first time in at least two months. It looks like they are at least a couple years away from making it to Kramatorsk which supposedly was the victory demarcation line at the beginning of the special military operation. This is starting to remind me of the fable of the little boy who cried wolf except I don’t know if they had any inflation in those stories.

    The Jets won and ended their five game losing streak last night. I was very surprised when I saw the betting line before the game and now I have to assume the secret about the fix being in was not closely guarded. Does anybody have a link to a decently formatted transcript of Rogan Vance?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @emil nikola richard

    It looks like they are at least a couple years away from making it to Kramatorsk which supposedly was the victory demarcation line at the beginning of the special military operation.

    I'd still like to see how they can occupy Kharkiv without meat tactics and Chechen retreat guards.

    Or will they just level a majority ethnic Russian city and call it liberation?

    The Jets won and ended their five game losing streak last night. I was very surprised when I saw the betting line before the game and now I have to assume the secret about the fix being in was not closely guarded.

    It's because the Jets are better than their record.


    Will Putin fans cheer the destruction of this city?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/%D0%A3%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D1%83%2C_%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE.jpg/1920px-%D0%A3%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D1%83%2C_%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE.jpg

  664. @AP
    @Mikel


    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion
     
    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical
     
    It's not nonsensical at all, indeed it is the main goal of Russia's foreign policy. Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow's rule. And from there, to expand. “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives
     
    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can, opposing American imperialism even on this continent. The larger and stronger it is, the more resources we will need to keep it in check.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war
     
    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed, thanks to which they (unlike Ukraine or Georgia) have had peace.

    it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek.
     
    The Russian tool, the cynical immigrant oligarch, the psychopath, the foreign swindler of Americans.

    Rule by this sort of circus around its vulgar populist ringmaster (or declining-into-senility tool of the South African oligarchs?) might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    After writing my posts I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump's danger (I don't read him but saw him mentioned on twitter).

    https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/acx-endorses-harris-oliver-or-stein

    "You don’t get from a flourishing democracy to Hugo Chavez in one leap - at least not without a politician younger and more vigorous than Trump. But our democracy isn’t entirely flourishing right now, and frogs are easily boiled. My threat model is less “Trump himself is exactly like Chavez”, and more “Trump’s election shows there are minimal consequences for violating norms; he brings us 10% closer to a banana republic; during the next election, both candidates violate the norms, the next guy brings us 20% closer to a banana republic, and so on.” The Republicans are already arguing that the Democrats’ authoritarian experimentation with cancel culture means it’s only fair that they get to have a mobocratic censorship regime too, if they ever get back in power. Once Trump escalates a bit, the Democrat after him will feel the same way and escalate even more. There will be plenty more chances to stop the cycle - but, like the proverb about planting the tree, the best time was ten years ago and the second-best time is now."



    https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1850618232530673818

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?

    This kind of rhetoric by fringe Russian figures (and the opposite one, from more mainstream ones) has always been there. Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed Clinton helped Yeltsin consolidate the new regime in Russia, which allowed those characters to appear.

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can

    Because Russians are genetically determined to “cause trouble”? Russia didn’t start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance that they were denied entry into and found the West promoting color revolutions in their neighborhood. What’s exactly strange about a dictator (or semi-dictator) like Putin not wanting to follow the fate of his close neighbor Yanukovich (or Lukashenko, who almost also got deposed with Western support)? If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn’t it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?

    That all these fantasies about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR or march on Berlin are ridiculous does not mean that many Russians do not regard Belarus and Ukraine like “fake” nations. That is a totally different thing. But this kind of sentiments are common everywhere. Spaniards don’t regard Basques as different enough from themselves (even though linguistically and genetically they are more different than Russians and Belorussians) and Basques don’t regard the Navarrese as different enough from themselves. Many Ukrainians, Belorussians, Basques and Navarrese actually agree with their bigger neighbors. It is ridiculous for the US and the EU to think that they can solve these disputes and decide which is the good and the bad side in each of them.

    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed

    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country. But again, from the perspective of the average citizen of Missouri, what is more important: to prevent war with a nuclear superpower or to solve old ethnic disputes on the other side of the oceans?

    The Russian tool

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You’re not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    We’ll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn’t have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for and who the Americans who don’t mind the US becoming invaded by millions from the Third World are voting for. It’s not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn’t care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You’re not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    The Russians already admitted that they interfered in the 2016 election.

    That is old news. It was funded by Prigozhin.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/

    I didn't watch the interview but it's entirely possible that both Vance and Tapper are equally ignorant.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?
     

    That wasn't Dugin speaking. It was a government-sponsored congress.

    Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed
     
    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7632057

    Is Putin good enough?

    "it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century"

    He would like to undo this tragedy.


    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can

    Because Russians are genetically determined to “cause trouble”? Russia didn’t start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance
     

    Because Putin misses Russia being a Superpower and as Russian strength increases it behaves accordingly. Russia was "tame" early in Putin's rule because it was weaker then. It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence but couldn't do much beyond its borders.

    If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn’t it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?
     
    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed

    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country.
     

    I'm not sure that NATO membership would prevent a civil war. It prevents invasions.

    It prevented Russia from doing to the Baltics what it did to Georgia and Ukraine.

    NATO membership for Ukraine would have saved 100,000s of Ukrainian (and also Russian) lives.

    Ukraine is not Sudan. It is in Europe. Its capital is closer to Warsaw than to Moscow, and Lviv and Odessa are closer to Berlin than to Moscow. It has a flawed but real democracy. Its people are Christian Europeans. Unlike, say, the "liberated" people of Iraq Ukraine's people are genuinely pro-Western.

    European civilization should stand up for itself.


    The Russian tool

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense.
     

    Of course the Russia conspiracy gate was nonsense. I was saying that too, from the start. I suspect the Russians themselves planted the evidence leading to the false idea that Trump was colluding with Russia, in order to disrupt American politics.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    Do you think that because the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense, that Russia is not interfering in any way with US politics and that no Americans are shilling for Russia or working for it in some way?


    We’ll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn’t have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for
     
    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala. The rootless people living in 21st century subdivisions and strip malls of Texas or Utah may prefer Trump, old towns in the Northeast prefer Kamala.

    If Trump had not run, I would have happily voted for DeSantis or Hailey. (DeSantis debased himself a bit during the race because he was trying to run to Trump's right).


    It’s not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn’t care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.
     
    I care about both the lands of my ancestors and the place where I have grown up equally.

    I strongly dislike both candidates, but for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice. If Trump were guaranteed to be much better for Ukraine, I might have voted for him and then have thought to myself that I chose Ukraine's interests more than America's.

    I love both lands but at the moment the situation in Ukraine is more critical than in the USA. Neither Trump nor Kamala will destroy the USA, each will make it slightly worse in their own way, Trump on balance being worse than Kamala. Russia, meanwhile, is trying to destroy Ukraine. So, a slightly worse choice for America, Trump, would not be as bad as a much worse choice for Ukraine.

    But since Trump is worse for both the USA and (likely) for Ukraine it's not a difficult decision me.

    There is a very small chance, not but zero chance, that Trump will be great for Ukraine. I will be happy to have been very wrong in that case.

    Because it's cheaper and I have a Euro passport I am indeed planning to retire early to Europe, but will maintain property here and will visit very often. I will be like a snowbird, but rather than Florida or Arizona it will be for Italy, Croatia, Poland - maybe Moscow if the politics there change radically (haven't decided yet) rather Florida or Arizona. I'll spend summers exploring European castles and beaches with the grandchildren, as my children had spent summer vacations in Moscow with their grandparents. And I'll visit home often. And I imagine if I get old enough I will move back to where my kids and grandkids will be. So it well be more of an extended vacation in my 60s than leaving the USA entirely. So let's hope the world and its economy do not collapse.

    Replies: @Mikel

  665. @AP
    @Mikel


    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.

    That’s a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion
     
    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That’s as nonsensical
     
    It's not nonsensical at all, indeed it is the main goal of Russia's foreign policy. Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow's rule. And from there, to expand. “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives
     
    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can, opposing American imperialism even on this continent. The larger and stronger it is, the more resources we will need to keep it in check.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war
     
    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed, thanks to which they (unlike Ukraine or Georgia) have had peace.

    it’s time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek.
     
    The Russian tool, the cynical immigrant oligarch, the psychopath, the foreign swindler of Americans.

    Rule by this sort of circus around its vulgar populist ringmaster (or declining-into-senility tool of the South African oligarchs?) might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.

    After writing my posts I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump's danger (I don't read him but saw him mentioned on twitter).

    https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/acx-endorses-harris-oliver-or-stein

    "You don’t get from a flourishing democracy to Hugo Chavez in one leap - at least not without a politician younger and more vigorous than Trump. But our democracy isn’t entirely flourishing right now, and frogs are easily boiled. My threat model is less “Trump himself is exactly like Chavez”, and more “Trump’s election shows there are minimal consequences for violating norms; he brings us 10% closer to a banana republic; during the next election, both candidates violate the norms, the next guy brings us 20% closer to a banana republic, and so on.” The Republicans are already arguing that the Democrats’ authoritarian experimentation with cancel culture means it’s only fair that they get to have a mobocratic censorship regime too, if they ever get back in power. Once Trump escalates a bit, the Democrat after him will feel the same way and escalate even more. There will be plenty more chances to stop the cycle - but, like the proverb about planting the tree, the best time was ten years ago and the second-best time is now."



    https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1850618232530673818

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel, @emil nikola richard

    Slatestarcodex is Jew establishment. Of course he hates Trump, the deplorables, garbage, &c. Do you ever read these jack asses you cite?

  666. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    Putler is the little dwarf dictator whose authoritarian playbook allows him to squash all manner of any free press, free airwaves, ability for free assembly and strict control of the ballot box. Opposition political candidates and critical members of the press are routinely murdered in order to insure the outcome of any election. Zelensky’s cancellation of any elections during wartime is countenanced within Ukraine’s constitution.
     
    Kiev regime controlled Ukraine isn't more pluralistic than Russia. Pro-Kiev regime advocates project when they talk about politically motivated suppression and murders in Russia.

    Civilians on both sides of the divide flee from being involved in wartime activities. It’s getting to be so bad in Russia due to meatwaive tactics, that old Putler is reduced to importing Koreans to help out.
     
    Kiev regime is the side using "meatwaive tactics" (meatwave) as you put it, thereby explaining why they complain of being so short of manpower. Russia and the DPRK have a military relationship that doesn't include the need for DPRK forces to fight the Kiev regime.

    People in Russia aren't fleeing military service like what's evident in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.


    We see how the situation in Georgia has noticeably changed. Kiev regime controlled Ukraine might very well experience the same at some point.
     
    Experience Russian strongman tactics? Heaven forbid!
     
    More like experiencing warped neocon-neolib perspectives versus a more realistic approach better serving the interests of Georgia.

    Strike three and your out Mickey, like your poor and unfortunate losing New York Yankees! 🙁
     
    Not a Yankee fan.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Not a Yankee fan.

    A lifelong New Yorker not being a Yankee fan? It’s like somebody being born in the US and living there his whole life and always taking Russia’ side in any conflict against the US. You really are an oddball Mickey, and need to have your head examined! 🙂

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Plenty of lifelong NYer's who aren't Yankee fans. Good basis for my being a Bosox and Vikes fan. The only NY team I'm a fan of is the Rangers.

  667. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    George Bush senior was the head of CIA...Putin was a low level young operative in Dresden. Get a hold of yourself, your paranoia is pathological....

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Watching documentaries that chronicle the career of Putler could only be seen as a sign of pathological paranoia by somebody cutoff from the world, somebody that’s real parochial and narrow in his interests. I never liked Bush either. 🙁

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...I never liked Bush either.
     
    It doesn't matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.

    When you watch propaganda that selects a subset of "facts" and paints a narrative you do it to reinforce your pre-existing emotional state. You hate everything about the Russians and so you will find the required 'facts'. It is unhelpful and in your case it has slipped into paranoia....so don't forget to check for "KGB agents" under your bed...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  668. @emil nikola richard
    Russia’s Swift March Forward in Ukraine’s East

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/31/world/europe/russia-gains-ukraine-maps.html

    no paywall: https://archive.ph/XlxYU#selection-4319.0-4319.46

    Alarms in the New York Times. I loaded the Institute for Study War map for the first time in at least two months. It looks like they are at least a couple years away from making it to Kramatorsk which supposedly was the victory demarcation line at the beginning of the special military operation. This is starting to remind me of the fable of the little boy who cried wolf except I don't know if they had any inflation in those stories.

    The Jets won and ended their five game losing streak last night. I was very surprised when I saw the betting line before the game and now I have to assume the secret about the fix being in was not closely guarded. Does anybody have a link to a decently formatted transcript of Rogan Vance?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It looks like they are at least a couple years away from making it to Kramatorsk which supposedly was the victory demarcation line at the beginning of the special military operation.

    I’d still like to see how they can occupy Kharkiv without meat tactics and Chechen retreat guards.

    Or will they just level a majority ethnic Russian city and call it liberation?

    The Jets won and ended their five game losing streak last night. I was very surprised when I saw the betting line before the game and now I have to assume the secret about the fix being in was not closely guarded.

    It’s because the Jets are better than their record.

    Will Putin fans cheer the destruction of this city?

  669. @Mikel
    @AP


    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”
     
    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?

    This kind of rhetoric by fringe Russian figures (and the opposite one, from more mainstream ones) has always been there. Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed Clinton helped Yeltsin consolidate the new regime in Russia, which allowed those characters to appear.

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can
     

    Because Russians are genetically determined to "cause trouble"? Russia didn't start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance that they were denied entry into and found the West promoting color revolutions in their neighborhood. What's exactly strange about a dictator (or semi-dictator) like Putin not wanting to follow the fate of his close neighbor Yanukovich (or Lukashenko, who almost also got deposed with Western support)? If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn't it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?

    That all these fantasies about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR or march on Berlin are ridiculous does not mean that many Russians do not regard Belarus and Ukraine like "fake" nations. That is a totally different thing. But this kind of sentiments are common everywhere. Spaniards don't regard Basques as different enough from themselves (even though linguistically and genetically they are more different than Russians and Belorussians) and Basques don't regard the Navarrese as different enough from themselves. Many Ukrainians, Belorussians, Basques and Navarrese actually agree with their bigger neighbors. It is ridiculous for the US and the EU to think that they can solve these disputes and decide which is the good and the bad side in each of them.


    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed
     
    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country. But again, from the perspective of the average citizen of Missouri, what is more important: to prevent war with a nuclear superpower or to solve old ethnic disputes on the other side of the oceans?

    The Russian tool
     
    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.
     
    We'll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn't have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for and who the Americans who don't mind the US becoming invaded by millions from the Third World are voting for. It's not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn't care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You’re not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    The Russians already admitted that they interfered in the 2016 election.

    That is old news. It was funded by Prigozhin.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/

    I didn’t watch the interview but it’s entirely possible that both Vance and Tapper are equally ignorant.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant. Pales in Comparison to what others including Israel and the Kiev regime have done. Prigo's "troll farm" had incorrect Facebook posts - many of which came after the election and regardless made little sense in content, which explains why US mass media hasn't fully presented what these comments said.

    Jeffrey Goldberg and Jake Tapper easily debunked by Vance. This overview includes criticism of Trump. Excellent journalism, which can be legitimately second guessed in other instances.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0iXBHrQKjk

    Concerning that other instance:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/17102024-aaron-mate-discusses-foreign-policy-at-hofstra-university-oped/

    Replies: @John Johnson

  670. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    . A123 may be confused about which group is pushing this agenda, but that point is at least subtle.
     
    Is it subtle, or a main pillar of this theory of his?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Who knows, I think that is the glue talking. My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory. It may be a gateway drug to madness.

    My version would be the Islamosaurus is an unusual fossil dinosaur discovered in an archeological dig near Mecca. Poor critter gets blamed for everything.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    You're correct about kremlnstoogeA123's "Islamo-Soros theory" being a gateway drug to madness, however, you got the location of the Islamosaurus dinosaur fossil being discovered in Mecca wrong. Believe it or not, the exact location of this incredible find was made in the heart of Europe:

    http://iranpoliticsclub.net/cartoons/islam/images/Europe%20&%20Threat%20of%20Islam_jpeg.jpg


    While searching for the above illustration, I came across this good one too:

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/313/507/83e.jpg

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory
     
    Why?

    It is obvious that George Soros is a virulent anti-Semite who hates Jews. Palestinian Jews have been forced to put the world on notice about his destructive activities: (1)

    Target Israel: George Soros-Funded Groups Leading BDS War on Jewish State

     

    Israel released a list of 20 BDS-supporting organizations whose members will be banned from entering Israel due to their BDS activism, prominently featuring six American groups. At least four of the six BDS-promoting U.S. groups receive funding tied to Soros. Scores of other U.S. organizations that support the BDS movement are financed by Soros.

    The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) is a central proponent of anti-Israel BDS activism on college campuses and in churches, boasting a mission that exclaims active support for “boycott and divestment campaigns that target companies complicit in the occupation.”

    AFSC has been financed by Soros’s Open Society Foundations [OSF] as well as the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.
     
    Lets be honest. The genocidal BDS initiative is about exterminating over 7MM Palestinian Jews so Muslims can steal their land.

    George IslamoSoros also hates Jews (and Christians) in Europe. His OSF is a major cash backer of the Great Muslim Replacement, which intentionally undermines Judeo-Christian values & civilization in Europe. Here is a picture of one of his gay Muslim troop transports.

     
    https://assets.jungefreiheit.de/2021/04/Sea-Watch-4-.jpg
     

    Accurately identifying the players upfront heads off a great deal of repetitive conversation. Using George IslamoSoros clearly labels this enemy of the Jews in a way where one can easily laugh at those who falsely claim, "He is a Jew plotter". Clearly he is not. The IslamoSoros plots against Judeo-Christians.

    What would you prefer as short hand to lock in the undeniable facts?

    "Anti-Semite, George Soros, Enemy of the Jews", while accurate is excessively wordy. Even if you do not agree that The IslamoSoros is a secret convert, you should see that the nickname delivers vital & irrefutable identification of his anti-Semitic alignment in a concise way.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  671. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Not a Yankee fan.
     
    A lifelong New Yorker not being a Yankee fan? It's like somebody being born in the US and living there his whole life and always taking Russia' side in any conflict against the US. You really are an oddball Mickey, and need to have your head examined! :-)

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Plenty of lifelong NYer’s who aren’t Yankee fans. Good basis for my being a Bosox and Vikes fan. The only NY team I’m a fan of is the Rangers.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  672. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You’re not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    The Russians already admitted that they interfered in the 2016 election.

    That is old news. It was funded by Prigozhin.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/

    I didn't watch the interview but it's entirely possible that both Vance and Tapper are equally ignorant.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant. Pales in Comparison to what others including Israel and the Kiev regime have done. Prigo’s “troll farm” had incorrect Facebook posts – many of which came after the election and regardless made little sense in content, which explains why US mass media hasn’t fully presented what these comments said.

    Jeffrey Goldberg and Jake Tapper easily debunked by Vance. This overview includes criticism of Trump. Excellent journalism, which can be legitimately second guessed in other instances.

    Concerning that other instance:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/17102024-aaron-mate-discusses-foreign-policy-at-hofstra-university-oped/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant.

    Did you not click on the link?

    Prigozhin acknowledged that he oversaw a troll farm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwONAqQVdA

    Another Putin defender with a serious case of reality denial.

    I provide a source to a Russian admitting that he took part in election interference and you call me ignorant.

    Yes that is the same Prigozhin that the Unz Putin defense club didn't like discussing on account of his Jewishness.

    Not sure why anyone would assume that Putin would draw a moral line at US election interference. Murdering his opponents is fine but he draws the line at US elections?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  673. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Who knows, I think that is the glue talking. My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory. It may be a gateway drug to madness.

    My version would be the Islamosaurus is an unusual fossil dinosaur discovered in an archeological dig near Mecca. Poor critter gets blamed for everything.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    You’re correct about kremlnstoogeA123’s “Islamo-Soros theory” being a gateway drug to madness, however, you got the location of the Islamosaurus dinosaur fossil being discovered in Mecca wrong. Believe it or not, the exact location of this incredible find was made in the heart of Europe:


    [MORE]

    While searching for the above illustration, I came across this good one too:

  674. This should be good:

  675. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Who knows, I think that is the glue talking. My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory. It may be a gateway drug to madness.

    My version would be the Islamosaurus is an unusual fossil dinosaur discovered in an archeological dig near Mecca. Poor critter gets blamed for everything.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory

    Why?

    It is obvious that George Soros is a virulent anti-Semite who hates Jews. Palestinian Jews have been forced to put the world on notice about his destructive activities: (1)

    Target Israel: George Soros-Funded Groups Leading BDS War on Jewish State

    Israel released a list of 20 BDS-supporting organizations whose members will be banned from entering Israel due to their BDS activism, prominently featuring six American groups. At least four of the six BDS-promoting U.S. groups receive funding tied to Soros. Scores of other U.S. organizations that support the BDS movement are financed by Soros.

    The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) is a central proponent of anti-Israel BDS activism on college campuses and in churches, boasting a mission that exclaims active support for “boycott and divestment campaigns that target companies complicit in the occupation.”

    AFSC has been financed by Soros’s Open Society Foundations [OSF] as well as the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.

    Lets be honest. The genocidal BDS initiative is about exterminating over 7MM Palestinian Jews so Muslims can steal their land.

    George IslamoSoros also hates Jews (and Christians) in Europe. His OSF is a major cash backer of the Great Muslim Replacement, which intentionally undermines Judeo-Christian values & civilization in Europe. Here is a picture of one of his gay Muslim troop transports.

     

     

    Accurately identifying the players upfront heads off a great deal of repetitive conversation. Using George IslamoSoros clearly labels this enemy of the Jews in a way where one can easily laugh at those who falsely claim, “He is a Jew plotter”. Clearly he is not. The IslamoSoros plots against Judeo-Christians.

    What would you prefer as short hand to lock in the undeniable facts?

    “Anti-Semite, George Soros, Enemy of the Jews”, while accurate is excessively wordy. Even if you do not agree that The IslamoSoros is a secret convert, you should see that the nickname delivers vital & irrefutable identification of his anti-Semitic alignment in a concise way.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Listen to Jeffrey Epstein Spill Intel on Donald Trump’s White House

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-jeffrey-epstein-spill-intel-on-donald-trumps-white-house-on-tape-released-by-author-michael-wolff/

    Replies: @A123

  676. @A123
    @QCIC


    My brain is reluctant to engage with the Islamo-Soros theory
     
    Why?

    It is obvious that George Soros is a virulent anti-Semite who hates Jews. Palestinian Jews have been forced to put the world on notice about his destructive activities: (1)

    Target Israel: George Soros-Funded Groups Leading BDS War on Jewish State

     

    Israel released a list of 20 BDS-supporting organizations whose members will be banned from entering Israel due to their BDS activism, prominently featuring six American groups. At least four of the six BDS-promoting U.S. groups receive funding tied to Soros. Scores of other U.S. organizations that support the BDS movement are financed by Soros.

    The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) is a central proponent of anti-Israel BDS activism on college campuses and in churches, boasting a mission that exclaims active support for “boycott and divestment campaigns that target companies complicit in the occupation.”

    AFSC has been financed by Soros’s Open Society Foundations [OSF] as well as the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.
     
    Lets be honest. The genocidal BDS initiative is about exterminating over 7MM Palestinian Jews so Muslims can steal their land.

    George IslamoSoros also hates Jews (and Christians) in Europe. His OSF is a major cash backer of the Great Muslim Replacement, which intentionally undermines Judeo-Christian values & civilization in Europe. Here is a picture of one of his gay Muslim troop transports.

     
    https://assets.jungefreiheit.de/2021/04/Sea-Watch-4-.jpg
     

    Accurately identifying the players upfront heads off a great deal of repetitive conversation. Using George IslamoSoros clearly labels this enemy of the Jews in a way where one can easily laugh at those who falsely claim, "He is a Jew plotter". Clearly he is not. The IslamoSoros plots against Judeo-Christians.

    What would you prefer as short hand to lock in the undeniable facts?

    "Anti-Semite, George Soros, Enemy of the Jews", while accurate is excessively wordy. Even if you do not agree that The IslamoSoros is a secret convert, you should see that the nickname delivers vital & irrefutable identification of his anti-Semitic alignment in a concise way.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    Listen to Jeffrey Epstein
     
    Why would anyone serious believe what Epstein said? He is significantly less credible than Slatestarcodex. And, at this point he cannot be cross examined.

     
    https://i.imgflip.com/37p5qd.jpg
     

    The fact that it is disgraced "journalist" Michael Wolff, also works against the story.

    It will be interesting to see what becomes of Hunter Biden's laptop.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  677. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Listen to Jeffrey Epstein Spill Intel on Donald Trump’s White House

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-jeffrey-epstein-spill-intel-on-donald-trumps-white-house-on-tape-released-by-author-michael-wolff/

    Replies: @A123

    Listen to Jeffrey Epstein

    Why would anyone serious believe what Epstein said? He is significantly less credible than Slatestarcodex. And, at this point he cannot be cross examined.

      

    The fact that it is disgraced “journalist” Michael Wolff, also works against the story.

    It will be interesting to see what becomes of Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Jeffrey Epstein and Donald the Fat were colleagues. Kind of like Willie Brown's skank ho and Diddy.

    Replies: @A123

  678. @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    Listen to Jeffrey Epstein
     
    Why would anyone serious believe what Epstein said? He is significantly less credible than Slatestarcodex. And, at this point he cannot be cross examined.

     
    https://i.imgflip.com/37p5qd.jpg
     

    The fact that it is disgraced "journalist" Michael Wolff, also works against the story.

    It will be interesting to see what becomes of Hunter Biden's laptop.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Jeffrey Epstein and Donald the Fat were colleagues. Kind of like Willie Brown’s skank ho and Diddy.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    Jeffrey Epstein and Donald [Trump] were colleagues
     
    That wacky conspiracy theory was debunked many years ago.

    Did Trump travel on Epstein's plane once or twice? Yes. However, the logs *prove* he never flew to Epstein's island on it.

    Both were interested in influencing the same NY officials and decision makers. Thus, they often wound up at the same functions. That is a circle of distant acquaintances numbering in the thousands.
    ___

    Why are you and Mikel so terrified of Trump? Your constant petty derisions and untruths reflect deep personal insecurity on your part.

    PEACE 😇

  679. @Mikel
    @AP


    On what measure are Easterners superior?
     
    I don't know. And I don't care. I have a much more solid opinion on the old rivalry between Biscayans and Gipuzkoans but I wouldn't expect you or anyone else on this blog to care about it in the slightest so I will keep it to myself.

    I think I actually do understand why Western Ukrainians feel superior to the Easterners and why Eastern Ukrainians were opposed to letting the Westerners run the country. I can also understand how 25 years after independence many people in Ukraine felt that their country was lagging far behind everyone in their neighborhood (including Russia) and wanted to follow the path of integration with the EU. But all of this is just because I was born in Europe and have visited Kiev and several countries neighboring Ukraine. The people that live around me in the US would have no clue what I'm talking about if I spoke about Galicia and its problems. As a matter of fact, not many years ago I would have myself assumed that anyone talking about Galicia was speaking about the region in Spain with the same name. I think I only had a vague idea of some region in Poland having a similar name at some point in history.

    A resurrected but economically better managed USSR would not be good for the USA.
     
    That's a total non-issue, not worth spending any billion, let alone running any risk of a dangerous war. Mostly because Russia has neither the means nor the wish to build a new USSR. That's as nonsensical as the fear that Moscow will march on Berlin or Warsaw. What for? As you yourself admit, they are neither suicidal nor driven by any strong ideological motives.

    To the extent that worrying about a strong Russia is a foreign policy concern, the only rational approach is to keep relations as good as possible, address any concerns they may have of being encroached by a hostile military alliance and stay away of ethnic conflicts where neither the US nor the EU has any business other than trying to mediate.

    Having pursued the exact opposite policy, which has resulted in a horrible war and the most dangerous conflict for the US since the Cuban missiles crisis, it's time to change course and vote for Vance and Trump, in the hope that the latter will also make room in his cabinet for Tulsi, Elon, RFK and Vivek. Sadly, he has already given his support to Mike Johnson as future leader of the House and is totally distracted while the neocons maneuver to replace McConnell with another swampy like Thune. The more sane voices on foreign policy he surrounds himself with, the better.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    Agree: Mikhail

    Thanks for agreeing with me, Mikhail. But one of the best refutations of AP’s crazy theory of Russia trying to resurrect the USSR is the fact that Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West, which is not exactly the way your favorite sources like to portray those events. The Russian pincer attack on Kiev was repulsed by the Ukrainian forces defending the capital by themselves. Imagine such a weak country trying to become the USSR that defeated the Nazis, occupied half of Europe and exported its revolution to all parts of the world.

    The sad part though is that the longer this war continues, the more militarily capable the Russians become because, as every sane person has kept saying since 2014, they have escalation advantage in that region and a strong martial culture. The West is preventing a takeover of Ukraine at the cost of making Russia a much more dangerous enemy than it ever was. If a strengthened Russia, perhaps in alliance with China, Iran and North Korea, ever becomes an open enemy of the US, I am on the wrong side of the divide, along with my whole family. This does worry me and is an additional reason to vote for people who want to end that conflict. Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in some reward for the aggressor, which is not fair, but both Ukraine and the West have made stupid mistakes and there’s no fixing this situation without paying a price for them. Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz, who don’t have any particular ideas on the matter other than mindless globalist inertia.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West,
     
    Your English language usage could stand some work. One cannot fail something that is never tried. The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev. Thus, that cannot possibly have been the intent.

    It is much more likely that the effort was intended to force Führer Zelensky to make good on his prior word (e.g. the Minsk Protocol). This almost worked in the Istanbul meetings, but Scholz and BoJo managed to kill off the effort.

    Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair. Parts of 4 oblasts, ZNPP, and Dnieper River access is better on the ground than the original 2 oblasts stated goal. The difficult point will be limiting offensive threats by Kiev. No Nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops/bases.

    It is not that hard to envision a stable end state. Russia does not want to capture and integrate cities with restive, non-assimilating populations (e.g. Kiev, Lviv). If Ukraine sees no hope of military success in future, they will have no motivation to start Round 2.

    Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz,
     
    You have another English language usage error here. Let me help you with your grammar. You should have the same construction on both sides of the slash "/" character. In typical parlance, this should be President/VP when describing a federal ticket.

    Harris/Walz would be most correct for the DNC ticket. Although, Kamala/Walz is also grammatically sound.

    Trump/Vance would be the correct sequence for the MAGA ticket. This provides appropriate President/VP parallel sentence structure.

    We understand that you struggle with English as a Second Language. And, it is tough. Keep working on your skills and you can improve your English literacy and presentation skills.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

  680. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Jeffrey Epstein and Donald the Fat were colleagues. Kind of like Willie Brown's skank ho and Diddy.

    Replies: @A123

    Jeffrey Epstein and Donald [Trump] were colleagues

    That wacky conspiracy theory was debunked many years ago.

    Did Trump travel on Epstein’s plane once or twice? Yes. However, the logs *prove* he never flew to Epstein’s island on it.

    Both were interested in influencing the same NY officials and decision makers. Thus, they often wound up at the same functions. That is a circle of distant acquaintances numbering in the thousands.
    ___

    Why are you and Mikel so terrified of Trump? Your constant petty derisions and untruths reflect deep personal insecurity on your part.

    PEACE 😇

  681. Both were interested in influencing the same NY officials and decision makers. Thus, they often wound up at the same functions. That is a circle of distant acquaintances numbering in the thousands.

    Didn’t Melania start her career in America as an Epstein whore? If she didn’t it is only because she didn’t make his final cut and had to go to work for a scrub team.

  682. Full Transcript — JD Vance and Joe Rogan (#2221)
    Oct 31, 2024, 2:07 PM

    https://turboscribe.ai/transcript/share/7106680211997884898/hTqVBhpb6BKnhauq1ABtP0BfODHJhzLFMBmSXiBpklg/full-transcript-jd-vance-and-joe-rogan-2221

    According to the Daily Mail Willie Brown’s skank ho wanted Rogan to come to her and leave after an hour. Rogan was like “who do you think you are talking to?”

  683. @Mikel
    @Mikel


    Agree: Mikhail
     
    Thanks for agreeing with me, Mikhail. But one of the best refutations of AP's crazy theory of Russia trying to resurrect the USSR is the fact that Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West, which is not exactly the way your favorite sources like to portray those events. The Russian pincer attack on Kiev was repulsed by the Ukrainian forces defending the capital by themselves. Imagine such a weak country trying to become the USSR that defeated the Nazis, occupied half of Europe and exported its revolution to all parts of the world.

    The sad part though is that the longer this war continues, the more militarily capable the Russians become because, as every sane person has kept saying since 2014, they have escalation advantage in that region and a strong martial culture. The West is preventing a takeover of Ukraine at the cost of making Russia a much more dangerous enemy than it ever was. If a strengthened Russia, perhaps in alliance with China, Iran and North Korea, ever becomes an open enemy of the US, I am on the wrong side of the divide, along with my whole family. This does worry me and is an additional reason to vote for people who want to end that conflict. Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in some reward for the aggressor, which is not fair, but both Ukraine and the West have made stupid mistakes and there's no fixing this situation without paying a price for them. Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz, who don't have any particular ideas on the matter other than mindless globalist inertia.

    Replies: @A123

    Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West,

    Your English language usage could stand some work. One cannot fail something that is never tried. The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev. Thus, that cannot possibly have been the intent.

    It is much more likely that the effort was intended to force Führer Zelensky to make good on his prior word (e.g. the Minsk Protocol). This almost worked in the Istanbul meetings, but Scholz and BoJo managed to kill off the effort.

    Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair. Parts of 4 oblasts, ZNPP, and Dnieper River access is better on the ground than the original 2 oblasts stated goal. The difficult point will be limiting offensive threats by Kiev. No Nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops/bases.

    It is not that hard to envision a stable end state. Russia does not want to capture and integrate cities with restive, non-assimilating populations (e.g. Kiev, Lviv). If Ukraine sees no hope of military success in future, they will have no motivation to start Round 2.

    Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz,

    You have another English language usage error here. Let me help you with your grammar. You should have the same construction on both sides of the slash “/” character. In typical parlance, this should be President/VP when describing a federal ticket.

    Harris/Walz would be most correct for the DNC ticket. Although, Kamala/Walz is also grammatically sound.

    Trump/Vance would be the correct sequence for the MAGA ticket. This provides appropriate President/VP parallel sentence structure.

    We understand that you struggle with English as a Second Language. And, it is tough. Keep working on your skills and you can improve your English literacy and presentation skills.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123


    Why are you and Mikel so terrified of Trump?
    .../...
    The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev.
    .../...
    ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair.

     

    I think it was Nate Silver who warned the other day that in the last week of every election campaign everybody's IQ seems to drop roughly by 6 points. But in your case, and combined with those irresponsible mixtures that you sniff, it results in a real horror show.

    Was the SMO contingent also too small to really want to capture Sumy, Chenihiv, Kharkov, Kherson, Mykolaiev,...? Were those all also feints?

    Replies: @A123

  684. @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    What has happened with Fingleton, he used to be on the Peter Myers mailing list that I was on twenty years ago, I suppose he might have passed away.

    Long given up on trying to understand Japan, an enigma.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    He was still blogging in February this year.

    https://www.fingleton.net/protectionism-is-almost-mainstream/

  685. @songbird
    @AP


    How expensive was the Cold War again?
     
    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability? And we should seek rapprochement and condemn these neocons? And those people who want the US to borrow billions to promote foreign entanglements and hostilities?

    Not restoration of the USSR under the Communist Party of course, but a return of former Soviet territory under Moscow’s rule. And from there, to expand. “
     
    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable. If on the other hand, it is some sort of Eastern Slav ethnostate, as unlikely as it seems - seeing what is going on in the West - perhaps that would be for the best.

    Soviet puppet states in EE had their underpinnings set up before nukes. And involved millions of casualties to Russians.

    What uniting ideology could they adopt, which would actually be more destructive than the one that now rules the West?

    I discovered that the slate star codex guy had similar ideas to mine about Trump’s danger
     
    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn't Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?

    Replies: @AP

    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability?

    By contributing to the end of the USSR Brzezinski helped to end the Cold War.

    Those who want to stand aside and let Russia reconstitute the USSR want a new one.

    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable.

    Because Tamerlane wasn’t formidable?

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.

    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn’t Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?

    I know almost nothing about him but the essay I linked to was good IMO.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.

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    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    Because Tamerlane wasn’t formidable?
     
    The horse has lost much of its military value, and Uzbeks have become overwhelmingly sendentary. Half of them are overweight and 20% obese.

    Still, if there were a Tamerlane II, I feel like that would be more a problem for Iran/Iraq/Turkey. He would probably write funny, insulting emails to Erdogan, telling him to surrender.

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.
     
    am no fan of Chechens, but they are too small a group to be part of some ruling hierarchy.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.
     
    Arnold was in a few entertaining movies (and many bad.) and he was good at self-promotion. But there really isn't much more to him.

    He was a guy who roided out and touched everything but the third rail.

    I don't know if he is really a good model of masculinity. Am sure he isn't gay, but he knowingly played to a gay fanbase when he was weightlifting. They helped make him a star.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    , @songbird
    @AP


    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.
     
    Fractional Irishman Robert Patrick was the more impressive actor, as a terminator, in T2.

    He ran without hardly breathing, often catching Edward Furlong on his dirtbike, so that he had to speed up, and fired a gun without hardly blinking.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJ72Qrk5ZFY?si=sWFobskKuCFe_qEc

    Replies: @songbird

  686. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”
     
    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?

    This kind of rhetoric by fringe Russian figures (and the opposite one, from more mainstream ones) has always been there. Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed Clinton helped Yeltsin consolidate the new regime in Russia, which allowed those characters to appear.

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can
     

    Because Russians are genetically determined to "cause trouble"? Russia didn't start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance that they were denied entry into and found the West promoting color revolutions in their neighborhood. What's exactly strange about a dictator (or semi-dictator) like Putin not wanting to follow the fate of his close neighbor Yanukovich (or Lukashenko, who almost also got deposed with Western support)? If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn't it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?

    That all these fantasies about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR or march on Berlin are ridiculous does not mean that many Russians do not regard Belarus and Ukraine like "fake" nations. That is a totally different thing. But this kind of sentiments are common everywhere. Spaniards don't regard Basques as different enough from themselves (even though linguistically and genetically they are more different than Russians and Belorussians) and Basques don't regard the Navarrese as different enough from themselves. Many Ukrainians, Belorussians, Basques and Navarrese actually agree with their bigger neighbors. It is ridiculous for the US and the EU to think that they can solve these disputes and decide which is the good and the bad side in each of them.


    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed
     
    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country. But again, from the perspective of the average citizen of Missouri, what is more important: to prevent war with a nuclear superpower or to solve old ethnic disputes on the other side of the oceans?

    The Russian tool
     
    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense. You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to a conspiratorial narrative that those who used to support it the most are abandoning now.

    might be normal for you, given your background, but not for us Americans.
     
    We'll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn't have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for and who the Americans who don't mind the US becoming invaded by millions from the Third World are voting for. It's not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn't care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?

    That wasn’t Dugin speaking. It was a government-sponsored congress.

    Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7632057

    Is Putin good enough?

    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    He would like to undo this tragedy.

    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can

    Because Russians are genetically determined to “cause trouble”? Russia didn’t start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance

    Because Putin misses Russia being a Superpower and as Russian strength increases it behaves accordingly. Russia was “tame” early in Putin’s rule because it was weaker then. It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence but couldn’t do much beyond its borders.

    If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn’t it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed

    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country.

    I’m not sure that NATO membership would prevent a civil war. It prevents invasions.

    It prevented Russia from doing to the Baltics what it did to Georgia and Ukraine.

    NATO membership for Ukraine would have saved 100,000s of Ukrainian (and also Russian) lives.

    Ukraine is not Sudan. It is in Europe. Its capital is closer to Warsaw than to Moscow, and Lviv and Odessa are closer to Berlin than to Moscow. It has a flawed but real democracy. Its people are Christian Europeans. Unlike, say, the “liberated” people of Iraq Ukraine’s people are genuinely pro-Western.

    European civilization should stand up for itself.

    The Russian tool

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense.

    Of course the Russia conspiracy gate was nonsense. I was saying that too, from the start. I suspect the Russians themselves planted the evidence leading to the false idea that Trump was colluding with Russia, in order to disrupt American politics.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    Do you think that because the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense, that Russia is not interfering in any way with US politics and that no Americans are shilling for Russia or working for it in some way?

    We’ll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn’t have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala. The rootless people living in 21st century subdivisions and strip malls of Texas or Utah may prefer Trump, old towns in the Northeast prefer Kamala.

    If Trump had not run, I would have happily voted for DeSantis or Hailey. (DeSantis debased himself a bit during the race because he was trying to run to Trump’s right).

    It’s not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn’t care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.

    I care about both the lands of my ancestors and the place where I have grown up equally.

    I strongly dislike both candidates, but for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice. If Trump were guaranteed to be much better for Ukraine, I might have voted for him and then have thought to myself that I chose Ukraine’s interests more than America’s.

    I love both lands but at the moment the situation in Ukraine is more critical than in the USA. Neither Trump nor Kamala will destroy the USA, each will make it slightly worse in their own way, Trump on balance being worse than Kamala. Russia, meanwhile, is trying to destroy Ukraine. So, a slightly worse choice for America, Trump, would not be as bad as a much worse choice for Ukraine.

    But since Trump is worse for both the USA and (likely) for Ukraine it’s not a difficult decision me.

    There is a very small chance, not but zero chance, that Trump will be great for Ukraine. I will be happy to have been very wrong in that case.

    [MORE]

    Because it’s cheaper and I have a Euro passport I am indeed planning to retire early to Europe, but will maintain property here and will visit very often. I will be like a snowbird, but rather than Florida or Arizona it will be for Italy, Croatia, Poland – maybe Moscow if the politics there change radically (haven’t decided yet) rather Florida or Arizona. I’ll spend summers exploring European castles and beaches with the grandchildren, as my children had spent summer vacations in Moscow with their grandparents. And I’ll visit home often. And I imagine if I get old enough I will move back to where my kids and grandkids will be. So it well be more of an extended vacation in my 60s than leaving the USA entirely. So let’s hope the world and its economy do not collapse.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”
     
    It's both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with 'if we don't stop Putin now, we'll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans'.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries. It's silly to conclude that just because Putin alluded to this reality in a speech in 2005 (while he was giving permission to the US to transport its materiel to Afghanistan through Russia) it means that he wants to rebuild the USSR. No sane person understood it that way, as proven by the fact that as late as 2014 France was about to sell him a helicopter carrier.


    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence
     
    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one's territory and combating terrorists.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?
     

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn't march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario that Putin hasn't even tried to annex territories full of people friendly to Russia that he has controlled for decades, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria.

    Why base one's foreign policy on science-fiction and not on hard realities like the fact that Russia has been surrounded by a hostile military alliance, which the US, Britain or France would never tolerate happening to them?

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.


    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?
     
    It has everything to do with it. It's the exact same nonsense. In fact, if I was as famous as Tulsi, I would have been accused of being a Russian agent as often as she has. So much so that being just an anonymous internet commenter, I have already been accused of being paid by the Kremlin dozens of times in many places. Is there even a politician worth listening to who hasn't been accused of being a Russian agent?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.
     
    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala's strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn't stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.


    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.
     
    There's no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you're voting for Kamala because she's more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump (though not as good as she should be). Obviously, you can't expect this reasoning to be very popular among most of us here but, considering what drives people's votes in a universal suffrage system, I guess your reasons are as good as many others and you should just leave it at that, instead of building impossible justifications on top of the real motive.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

  687. @AP
    @songbird


    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability?
     
    By contributing to the end of the USSR Brzezinski helped to end the Cold War.

    Those who want to stand aside and let Russia reconstitute the USSR want a new one.

    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable.
     
    Because Tamerlane wasn't formidable?

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.

    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn’t Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?
     
    I know almost nothing about him but the essay I linked to was good IMO.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.



    https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    Because Tamerlane wasn’t formidable?

    The horse has lost much of its military value, and Uzbeks have become overwhelmingly sendentary. Half of them are overweight and 20% obese.

    Still, if there were a Tamerlane II, I feel like that would be more a problem for Iran/Iraq/Turkey. He would probably write funny, insulting emails to Erdogan, telling him to surrender.

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.

    am no fan of Chechens, but they are too small a group to be part of some ruling hierarchy.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.

    Arnold was in a few entertaining movies (and many bad.) and he was good at self-promotion. But there really isn’t much more to him.

    He was a guy who roided out and touched everything but the third rail.

    I don’t know if he is really a good model of masculinity. Am sure he isn’t gay, but he knowingly played to a gay fanbase when he was weightlifting. They helped make him a star.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    See Bill Burr on Schwarzeneger. Arnold is an achiever. We really need a Greek or Egyptian god of success. I don't think any of them come close.

    The man spent more on doctor bills than most of us will earn. His doctors have been extraordinarily lucky because none of them is that good.

  688. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant. Pales in Comparison to what others including Israel and the Kiev regime have done. Prigo's "troll farm" had incorrect Facebook posts - many of which came after the election and regardless made little sense in content, which explains why US mass media hasn't fully presented what these comments said.

    Jeffrey Goldberg and Jake Tapper easily debunked by Vance. This overview includes criticism of Trump. Excellent journalism, which can be legitimately second guessed in other instances.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0iXBHrQKjk

    Concerning that other instance:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/17102024-aaron-mate-discusses-foreign-policy-at-hofstra-university-oped/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant.

    Did you not click on the link?

    Prigozhin acknowledged that he oversaw a troll farm.

    Another Putin defender with a serious case of reality denial.

    I provide a source to a Russian admitting that he took part in election interference and you call me ignorant.

    Yes that is the same Prigozhin that the Unz Putin defense club didn’t like discussing on account of his Jewishness.

    Not sure why anyone would assume that Putin would draw a moral line at US election interference. Murdering his opponents is fine but he draws the line at US elections?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Prigo marched to his own tune. Why hasn't the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it's incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election. Regardless, it's asinine to think these posts are sinister election meddling of a foreign power.

    When he as VP, Brandon went to Russia and said that Putin shouldn't seek the Russian presidency. On another comparative note, is the US election meddling activity of Kiev regime and Israeli forces. Never mind US and other Western election meddling in Georgia and Moldova.

    Later with your suggestively selective moralizing of Putin (supposedly) killing his opposition, given what has gone on in US government supported Kiev regime controlled Ukraine and Israel.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  689. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Anyone clinging to the faux Russiagate narrative is is ignorant.

    Did you not click on the link?

    Prigozhin acknowledged that he oversaw a troll farm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwONAqQVdA

    Another Putin defender with a serious case of reality denial.

    I provide a source to a Russian admitting that he took part in election interference and you call me ignorant.

    Yes that is the same Prigozhin that the Unz Putin defense club didn't like discussing on account of his Jewishness.

    Not sure why anyone would assume that Putin would draw a moral line at US election interference. Murdering his opponents is fine but he draws the line at US elections?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Prigo marched to his own tune. Why hasn’t the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it’s incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election. Regardless, it’s asinine to think these posts are sinister election meddling of a foreign power.

    When he as VP, Brandon went to Russia and said that Putin shouldn’t seek the Russian presidency. On another comparative note, is the US election meddling activity of Kiev regime and Israeli forces. Never mind US and other Western election meddling in Georgia and Moldova.

    Later with your suggestively selective moralizing of Putin (supposedly) killing his opposition, given what has gone on in US government supported Kiev regime controlled Ukraine and Israel.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Cry more. You're wrong......and yet again from not investigating on your own. Does that ever get tiring?

    Prigo marched to his own tune.

    It's still Russian meddling and he was paid annually by Putin before dying in a tragic accident involving cocaine and hand grenades. What a country.

    Why hasn’t the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it’s incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election.

    Prigozhin oversaw a troll farm that targeted swing states with fake FB accounts.

    You were obviously wrong about it not happening so maybe try reading about it before commenting.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  690. @songbird
    @AP


    Because Tamerlane wasn’t formidable?
     
    The horse has lost much of its military value, and Uzbeks have become overwhelmingly sendentary. Half of them are overweight and 20% obese.

    Still, if there were a Tamerlane II, I feel like that would be more a problem for Iran/Iraq/Turkey. He would probably write funny, insulting emails to Erdogan, telling him to surrender.

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.
     
    am no fan of Chechens, but they are too small a group to be part of some ruling hierarchy.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.
     
    Arnold was in a few entertaining movies (and many bad.) and he was good at self-promotion. But there really isn't much more to him.

    He was a guy who roided out and touched everything but the third rail.

    I don't know if he is really a good model of masculinity. Am sure he isn't gay, but he knowingly played to a gay fanbase when he was weightlifting. They helped make him a star.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    See Bill Burr on Schwarzeneger. Arnold is an achiever. We really need a Greek or Egyptian god of success. I don’t think any of them come close.

    The man spent more on doctor bills than most of us will earn. His doctors have been extraordinarily lucky because none of them is that good.

  691. No repeat of Minsk agreements – Moscow
    https://www.rt.com/russia/606878-no-ukraine-ceasefire-deal-moscow/

    Russia will not sign any deal that freezes but does not end the Ukraine conflict, the country’s envoy to the UN has said

    Moscow will not repeat its past mistakes and agree to another conditional Minsk-type deal that would only serve to pause the Ukraine conflict, instead of resolving it once and for all, Russia’s permanent representative to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, has insisted.

    The Minsk agreements were struck by Russia and Ukraine in 2014 and 2015 between, having been mediated by the leaders of France and Germany. They were aimed at resolving tensions following the Western-backed Maidan coup that overthrew the legitimate government in Kiev.

    Senior Ukrainian, German, and French officials have since openly admitted that they never intended to adhere to the agreements, but used them to buy time for Kiev to rearm.

    Moscow has pointed to this deception as an indicator that neither Kiev nor its Western backers have any desire for peace in Ukraine, despite Russia remaining open to a diplomatic resolution of the crisis.

    Speaking at a UN Security Council meeting on Thursday, Nebenzia warned that “there will be no repetition of the Minsk agreements scenario, no freezing of the front so that Zelensky’s regime can lick its wounds. Just as there will be no entry of Ukraine into NATO, in one way or another.”

    Instead, the diplomat suggested that the conflict will be resolved permanently by Russia achieving all of the goals of its military operation, including the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.

    He added that the territory held by Ukraine continues to shrink every day, and suggested that it is time for Zelensky’s foreign backers to finally consider the interests of the Ukrainian people, who want peace and good relations with Russia.

    “So far, our Western colleagues are failing at this,” Nebenzia said.

    The diplomat also criticized Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky for betraying the country and his election campaign promises by turning his country into a puppet of the US and its allies that has been used to wage a proxy war against Russia.

    Nebenzia suggested that the reason that Ukraine is suffering defeats on the front line is because “the people simply stopped believing in the former actor.”

    • Thanks: A123
  692. @AP
    @Mikel


    “Russia is an empire, it is natural for it to expand. We Russians will not rest until we put the whole planet under our protectorate. That is why we are being called a God Bearing nation.”

    Said by Dugin. Are you being serious?
     

    That wasn't Dugin speaking. It was a government-sponsored congress.

    Already in the 90s Zhirinovsky was threatening with recovering Alaska for Russia. Thankfully, nobody was insane enough in those times to base Western foreign policy on what fringe Russian characters said and indeed
     
    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7632057

    Is Putin good enough?

    "it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century"

    He would like to undo this tragedy.


    Russia will not use nukes, it is not suicidal. But if given the chance it will happily expand and cause trouble where it can

    Because Russians are genetically determined to “cause trouble”? Russia didn’t start causing any trouble to the US until they saw themselves surrounded by an expansionist military alliance
     

    Because Putin misses Russia being a Superpower and as Russian strength increases it behaves accordingly. Russia was "tame" early in Putin's rule because it was weaker then. It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence but couldn't do much beyond its borders.

    If the objective was to prevent nuclear-armed Russia from becoming a dangerous threat to the West again, isn’t it spectacularly clear that we have achieved exactly what we were trying to prevent?
     
    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    The war was the result of the West failing to place Ukraine under the same safe NATO umbrella that the Baltics have enjoyed

    In the same way that failing to place Sudan under NATO has led to a civil war in that country.
     

    I'm not sure that NATO membership would prevent a civil war. It prevents invasions.

    It prevented Russia from doing to the Baltics what it did to Georgia and Ukraine.

    NATO membership for Ukraine would have saved 100,000s of Ukrainian (and also Russian) lives.

    Ukraine is not Sudan. It is in Europe. Its capital is closer to Warsaw than to Moscow, and Lviv and Odessa are closer to Berlin than to Moscow. It has a flawed but real democracy. Its people are Christian Europeans. Unlike, say, the "liberated" people of Iraq Ukraine's people are genuinely pro-Western.

    European civilization should stand up for itself.


    The Russian tool

    The other day even Jake Tapper was made to admit by JD Vance that the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense.
     

    Of course the Russia conspiracy gate was nonsense. I was saying that too, from the start. I suspect the Russians themselves planted the evidence leading to the false idea that Trump was colluding with Russia, in order to disrupt American politics.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    Do you think that because the Russiagate conspiracy was nonsense, that Russia is not interfering in any way with US politics and that no Americans are shilling for Russia or working for it in some way?


    We’ll see on Tuesday. Trump is a flawed candidate in several respects. I wouldn’t have chosen him as the Republican nominee in part for the reasons that you and Scott Alexander mention but it is very clear who the Americans who want to keep the US the way it was for generations are voting for
     
    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala. The rootless people living in 21st century subdivisions and strip malls of Texas or Utah may prefer Trump, old towns in the Northeast prefer Kamala.

    If Trump had not run, I would have happily voted for DeSantis or Hailey. (DeSantis debased himself a bit during the race because he was trying to run to Trump's right).


    It’s not surprising that someone who lives mentally in Europe, doesn’t care about the US as much as about his old country and actually plans to emigrate there is voting with the latter group.
     
    I care about both the lands of my ancestors and the place where I have grown up equally.

    I strongly dislike both candidates, but for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice. If Trump were guaranteed to be much better for Ukraine, I might have voted for him and then have thought to myself that I chose Ukraine's interests more than America's.

    I love both lands but at the moment the situation in Ukraine is more critical than in the USA. Neither Trump nor Kamala will destroy the USA, each will make it slightly worse in their own way, Trump on balance being worse than Kamala. Russia, meanwhile, is trying to destroy Ukraine. So, a slightly worse choice for America, Trump, would not be as bad as a much worse choice for Ukraine.

    But since Trump is worse for both the USA and (likely) for Ukraine it's not a difficult decision me.

    There is a very small chance, not but zero chance, that Trump will be great for Ukraine. I will be happy to have been very wrong in that case.

    Because it's cheaper and I have a Euro passport I am indeed planning to retire early to Europe, but will maintain property here and will visit very often. I will be like a snowbird, but rather than Florida or Arizona it will be for Italy, Croatia, Poland - maybe Moscow if the politics there change radically (haven't decided yet) rather Florida or Arizona. I'll spend summers exploring European castles and beaches with the grandchildren, as my children had spent summer vacations in Moscow with their grandparents. And I'll visit home often. And I imagine if I get old enough I will move back to where my kids and grandkids will be. So it well be more of an extended vacation in my 60s than leaving the USA entirely. So let's hope the world and its economy do not collapse.

    Replies: @Mikel

    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries. It’s silly to conclude that just because Putin alluded to this reality in a speech in 2005 (while he was giving permission to the US to transport its materiel to Afghanistan through Russia) it means that he wants to rebuild the USSR. No sane person understood it that way, as proven by the fact that as late as 2014 France was about to sell him a helicopter carrier.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario that Putin hasn’t even tried to annex territories full of people friendly to Russia that he has controlled for decades, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria.

    Why base one’s foreign policy on science-fiction and not on hard realities like the fact that Russia has been surrounded by a hostile military alliance, which the US, Britain or France would never tolerate happening to them?

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it. It’s the exact same nonsense. In fact, if I was as famous as Tulsi, I would have been accused of being a Russian agent as often as she has. So much so that being just an anonymous internet commenter, I have already been accused of being paid by the Kremlin dozens of times in many places. Is there even a politician worth listening to who hasn’t been accused of being a Russian agent?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala’s strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn’t stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump (though not as good as she should be). Obviously, you can’t expect this reasoning to be very popular among most of us here but, considering what drives people’s votes in a universal suffrage system, I guess your reasons are as good as many others and you should just leave it at that, instead of building impossible justifications on top of the real motive.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries
     
    What part of the word geopolitical do you not understand? He was talking about territorial collapse and not the decreased well-being of people (which also occurred). He's motivated to regather those lands.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.
     
    It depends on degree. About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force; killing ~40,000 civilians in Chechnya (population 1.2 million in 1990) is a slaughter.

    If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario
     
    If Ukraine were to fall Moldova would be next. And a high chance of the Baltics following.

    BTW, Putin demanded that NATO leave Poland and Romania.

    Ukraine stands in the way of future plans.

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.
     
    Ukrainians have been arguing that they need the arms to end the war quickly precisely so that Russia does not slowly learn how to fight better. The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine. They waited, gave restrictions, etc. It's as if the Biden administration is deliberately pursuing a policy of inoculating Russia against Western weapons and tactics. The Biden administration's cowardice is incredibly stupid.

    Sean attributes this to a deliberate strategy of denying Russia Ukraine while also building up Russia/spearing it defeat in the hope of a future alliance with Russia against China.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it.
     
    Are you suggesting that because Russiagate was fake, Russia does not interfere at all and that no American serves Russia?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump.
     
    Most of America's historical heartland is voting for Kamala. Of the original 13 colonies, only SC is solidly for Trump. And the historical Charleston area is not.

    Recently-settled, sparsely-populated Kansas may be a geographical heartland but it is not the historical heartland.

    The parts of America that are voting for Trump (outside of Appalachia) are the more rootless parts, recently settled, with no history, either semi-empty frontiers such as Montana or places with downtowns abandoned for strip malls. Trump fandom in these parts goes hand in hand with divorce and opiate abuse, they are all symptoms of an underlying problem. Perhaps a cry for help or rage by poorer segments of society, but for the most part not a reasoned decision made by thoughtful people. Latin American style politics.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.
     
    The "woke" Puritans have low divorce rates, functional families, high educational achievement, low crime rates, and treasure their history. Their "woke" public schools in New England, best in the world according to PISA, teach their kids Latin and classical Greek, Shakespeare, etc. Traditional Mormons are a heretical offshoot and their outpost out West. Both groups dislike Trump.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders who occupy the lower margins and whose kids and grandkids will be assimilated anyways. America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before. But it has not yet been ruled by a Latin American strongman-like populist demagogue.* That is new and more dangerous. Degradation at the top is far more dangerous than whatever happens at the bottom.

    Again, you don't feel that because you are not an American. And I'm not sure you are capable of understanding true attachment to a country and its traditions. Based on what you have written here at Unz, you have healthy sentimental feelings to your Basque homeland but don't care too much if it survives and have not taught your children your native language, you left. You then lived in Eastern Europe for awhile, lived in South America for awhile (never developing loyalty or attachment to either of those places either) before settling among the Mormons in Utah, apparently due to their homeland's spectacular natural beauty. Yet you have refused to adopt their religion even though they settled that land as their Zion, and refer to many of them as "cucks" and are essentially an outsider there. There's an ancient population of Basque shepherds in the Great Basin with deep roots in that region, mostly in Nevada, but you haven't mixed with those people much either.

    So by nature you seem to be rather rootless.

    A nomad. And I do not mean that as an insult, your background has advantages also.

    But it makes sense for you to view Trump's troublesome innovations as not as bad as Kamala's.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump
     
    As I stated, both Kamala and Trump are bad for America, but in different ways. Trump is slightly worse for America than is Kamala. But even if he were slightly better (he is not), I would still vote for whoever is better for Ukraine because Ukraine's situation is more critical than is the minor difference in goodness or badness for the USA between Trump and Kamala.


    * There have been comparisons to Andrew Jackson but that was 200 years ago, a different world.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Mikel, @Sean

    , @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala’s strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn’t stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    The major divide in the election is actually gender.

    He has the lowest score in history with White women as a GOP candidate.

    White women could very well decide the election.

    Replies: @Derer

  693. @A123
    @Mikel


    Russia had actually failed its military operation in Ukraine even before Kiev had received any significant help from the West,
     
    Your English language usage could stand some work. One cannot fail something that is never tried. The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev. Thus, that cannot possibly have been the intent.

    It is much more likely that the effort was intended to force Führer Zelensky to make good on his prior word (e.g. the Minsk Protocol). This almost worked in the Istanbul meetings, but Scholz and BoJo managed to kill off the effort.

    Given the current realities on the ground, ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair. Parts of 4 oblasts, ZNPP, and Dnieper River access is better on the ground than the original 2 oblasts stated goal. The difficult point will be limiting offensive threats by Kiev. No Nukes. No NATO ever. No foreign troops/bases.

    It is not that hard to envision a stable end state. Russia does not want to capture and integrate cities with restive, non-assimilating populations (e.g. Kiev, Lviv). If Ukraine sees no hope of military success in future, they will have no motivation to start Round 2.

    Vance/Trump are much more likely to take this realistic approach than Kamala/Waltz,
     
    You have another English language usage error here. Let me help you with your grammar. You should have the same construction on both sides of the slash "/" character. In typical parlance, this should be President/VP when describing a federal ticket.

    Harris/Walz would be most correct for the DNC ticket. Although, Kamala/Walz is also grammatically sound.

    Trump/Vance would be the correct sequence for the MAGA ticket. This provides appropriate President/VP parallel sentence structure.

    We understand that you struggle with English as a Second Language. And, it is tough. Keep working on your skills and you can improve your English literacy and presentation skills.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

    Why are you and Mikel so terrified of Trump?
    …/…
    The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev.
    …/…
    ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair.

    I think it was Nate Silver who warned the other day that in the last week of every election campaign everybody’s IQ seems to drop roughly by 6 points. But in your case, and combined with those irresponsible mixtures that you sniff, it results in a real horror show.

    Was the SMO contingent also too small to really want to capture Sumy, Chenihiv, Kharkov, Kherson, Mykolaiev,…? Were those all also feints?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    I think it was Nate Silver who warned the other day that in the last week of every election campaign everybody’s IQ seems to drop roughly by 6 points
    ...
    Were those all also feints?
     
    Your IQ has dropped by orders of magnitude more than I. You are now fully delusional. I never described Kiev as a feint. You appear so mentally addled that you confuse my positions with those of other commenters. The more you flail, the worse you look.
    ___

    If you believe Trump is better on Ukraine policy, Why can you not say that explicitly and clearly? Why do you have to help Harris with #NeverMAGA snark?

    You need to be less triggered and stop histrionically over reacting to Trump's physique. Regardless of his weight, Trump is out campaigning Harris. Can you be objective enough to compare their schedules?

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GarjPJFXcAA69Yf.jpg
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GarjPJGWIAAAzIc.jpg
     

    Not only is Trump ahead on number of events, he is taking on much more challenging encounters with unscripted questions. Harris's campaign is desperately rigging teleprompter town halls, and she cannot carry those of successfully.

    Are you really going to damage your soul with lies and insults for the next four years? If so, I will continue to debunk your hatred of America. Jesus and God require this of me.

    PEACE 😇
  694. LOL Ukie diasporoid nationalist AP is now using Hollywitz liberal Iraq War supporters like Arnold Schwarzenegger to back up his arguments. It seems like just a few months ago he was saying we should ignore Tucker Carlson on Ukraine because of his “disgusting” (or words to that effect) support of the Iraq War, even though Tucker, unlike neocon fanboy Arnold, later turned against it. But now it is A-OK to quote Bush-Cheney sycophants like Arnold. If Arnie were a JD Vance supporter AP would be pointing to his lies about seeing Soviet tanks in Austria or him impregnating his family housekeeper in his wife’s bed to discredit his opinons but now that he is pro-Kamala (pro-Ukie in AP’s blinkered eyes) he’s great!

    I also recall AP saying we need to figure out why once conservative Catholic states like Spain, Ireland, and Quebec turned liberal in order to ensure it never happens again. Now he is all-in on a candidate whose big issue is abortion on demand right up until birth, something even most leftist Europeans are horrified by. And then there are her views on transgenderism and the Biden administration track record of going after religious Catholics on one charge or another.

    AP is naked before the world, or the 20 people who visit this forum: A Ukrainian ethnic narcissist who talks out of both sides of his mouth. There wasn’t much doubt about it before but lately he’s slipped a lot – battlefield defeats getting to him? – and fully exposed himself for what he is.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Matra

    This is the Polish-Catholic-hating regime that AP favors:
    https://twitter.com/CatholicArena/status/1852384826285765090

    , @AP
    @Matra


    LOL Ukie diasporoid nationalist AP is now using Hollywitz liberal Iraq War supporters like Arnold Schwarzenegger to back up his arguments. It seems like just a few months ago he was saying we should ignore Tucker Carlson on Ukraine because of his “disgusting” (or words to that effect) support of the Iraq War, even though Tucker, unlike neocon fanboy Arnold, later turned against it. But now it is A-OK to quote Bush-Cheney sycophants like Arnold.
     
    Iraq war was horrible but the difference is that neocons who supported the criminal and evil invasion of Iraq can redeem themselves by opposing the criminal and evil invasion of Ukraine. They may not necessarily be doing so for the right reasons, but nevertheless they are doing the right thing now.

    Tucker Carlson meanwhile supported both the evil invasion of Iraq and the evil invasion invasion of Ukraine. He is consistent in his support for bloodthirsty imperialism.

    Also, of course I am no nationalist.


    I also recall AP saying we need to figure out why once conservative Catholic states like Spain, Ireland, and Quebec turned liberal in order to ensure it never happens again.
     
    That was someone else, I think. But it is a problem I agree, secularism is not sustainable. But those examples seem to demonstrate that rigid enforcement from the top by increasingly old rulers doesn't work and produces a backlash. We are seeing that in Iran now - rule by the theocrats has produced very high number of atheists, and many converts to Christianity and Zoroastrianism.

    Now he is all-in on a candidate whose big issue is abortion on demand right up until birth, something even most leftist Europeans are horrified by
     
    I am very happy that the Republican Senate will block her from doing any of these horrible things.

    In the USA, the presidency is very important for foreign policy and for the courts. Trump has, thank God, secured the courts during his term. And I support a policy that helps the Catholics of Eastern Europe rather than bows down to Russian interests.

    In domestic policy the President is blocked by the Senate and Congress. The Republicans will almost certainly not only have the Senate, but will have a solid lead there (probably 54 seats). Congress can go ether way. Ideally, the Republicans will have a more solid majority so that majority leader Johnson will not be blackmailed by the pro-Russian fringe crazies. But either way, a Kamala who moves towards the center, constrained by a Republican legislature, will be okay.


    battlefield defeats getting to him?
     
    The overall picture isn't changing much. Russia is sacrificing a lot of men for a little land.
  695. The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No? It was all the talk for two weeks on the pro-NATO Russia-watcher blogs/podcasts/X accounts but now…crickets. I saw more evidence of a rigged election in Scarlett O’Hara’s Georgia in 2020 than in Stalin’s Georgia last week but who knows. Maybe pro-Russians did rig the election but it looks few people in the West are willing to take Ursula von der Leyen’s word for it. Evidence would be nice.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Matra


    The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No?
     
    The problem seems to be that the natives are not playing their role as expected. They did gather in Tblisi for a big demonstration but all they did was read some protest manifesto and scatter away. I don't believe for a second that the astute leaders ruling the EU and the US have learned anything from the Ukrainian experience but what can they do if nobody's willing to die for them in the target country?

    Having said that, I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair) but it's none of my business. Enough problems fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

  696. @Mikel
    @A123


    Why are you and Mikel so terrified of Trump?
    .../...
    The SMO call up was far too small to capture Kiev.
    .../...
    ending the conflict will result in penalties for Kiev aggression, which is fair.

     

    I think it was Nate Silver who warned the other day that in the last week of every election campaign everybody's IQ seems to drop roughly by 6 points. But in your case, and combined with those irresponsible mixtures that you sniff, it results in a real horror show.

    Was the SMO contingent also too small to really want to capture Sumy, Chenihiv, Kharkov, Kherson, Mykolaiev,...? Were those all also feints?

    Replies: @A123

    I think it was Nate Silver who warned the other day that in the last week of every election campaign everybody’s IQ seems to drop roughly by 6 points

    Were those all also feints?

    Your IQ has dropped by orders of magnitude more than I. You are now fully delusional. I never described Kiev as a feint. You appear so mentally addled that you confuse my positions with those of other commenters. The more you flail, the worse you look.
    ___

    If you believe Trump is better on Ukraine policy, Why can you not say that explicitly and clearly? Why do you have to help Harris with #NeverMAGA snark?

    You need to be less triggered and stop histrionically over reacting to Trump’s physique. Regardless of his weight, Trump is out campaigning Harris. Can you be objective enough to compare their schedules?

     

     

     

    Not only is Trump ahead on number of events, he is taking on much more challenging encounters with unscripted questions. Harris’s campaign is desperately rigging teleprompter town halls, and she cannot carry those of successfully.

    Are you really going to damage your soul with lies and insults for the next four years? If so, I will continue to debunk your hatred of America. Jesus and God require this of me.

    PEACE 😇

  697. @Matra
    The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No? It was all the talk for two weeks on the pro-NATO Russia-watcher blogs/podcasts/X accounts but now...crickets. I saw more evidence of a rigged election in Scarlett O'Hara's Georgia in 2020 than in Stalin's Georgia last week but who knows. Maybe pro-Russians did rig the election but it looks few people in the West are willing to take Ursula von der Leyen's word for it. Evidence would be nice.

    Replies: @Mikel

    The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No?

    The problem seems to be that the natives are not playing their role as expected. They did gather in Tblisi for a big demonstration but all they did was read some protest manifesto and scatter away. I don’t believe for a second that the astute leaders ruling the EU and the US have learned anything from the Ukrainian experience but what can they do if nobody’s willing to die for them in the target country?

    Having said that, I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair) but it’s none of my business. Enough problems fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.

    • Agree: Matra
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.
     
    There is an easy option to make things much easier to count on election day. Require federal elections to be exclusively for federal matters -- President, Senate, House. Potentially, constitutional amendment referenda.

    Everything else has to be on odd # years. State, County, & Municipal offices. Plus initiatives that need voter approval. I don't want to doxx myself with specifics, but my ballot was a multi page, potential train wreck.

    PEACE 😇
    , @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair)
     
    'Mostly' is the operative word...no election given today's methods and technology is completely clean, only a question of how much and whether the results were impacted.

    What is obvious is that in Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine people are divided half-and-half, at most 50-55% one way or another. And a large 'neutral' block that wants peace and quiet.

    So why are EU and NATO pushing the very radical change-everything-now policies? It is bound to backfire and lead to instability and wars. In evenly divided societies insisting on only one-way is very stupid. But it seems both EU and NATO are either too stupid or too arrogant to understand it...

  698. The new inheritance tax on farmers in the UK does very much seem like some way to appropriate the land and eventually develop it, to build more housing tor migrants.
    ________

    Interesting poll: Muslims in America voting 42% for Jill Stein.

    [MORE]

  699. From this week’s Power Vertical podcast – previously Radio Free Europe but still a USG/NGO op: If Ukraine is abandoned they will hate the United States for a generation. Q: Who could have predicted this would all end in tears? A: Everybody who has ever paid attention to US foreign policy.

    Increasing pessimism.

  700. @AP
    @songbird


    How expensive was the Cold War again?

    So you agree that Brzeziński was a liability?
     
    By contributing to the end of the USSR Brzezinski helped to end the Cold War.

    Those who want to stand aside and let Russia reconstitute the USSR want a new one.

    In 1989, the USSR was 52.9% Russian (weighted towards the elderly). Are you seriously proposing that the USSR will be resurrected with worse demographics than ever?

    If it is a state dominated by Central Asians, I am not sure it will be that formidable.
     
    Because Tamerlane wasn't formidable?

    It will be led by Russians, Chechens, and Central Asians.

    Has anyone tried to survey gay, Jewish psychiatrists living in SF to discover their typical political alignment? Didn’t Scott Alexander once try dating a tranny or something?
     
    I know almost nothing about him but the essay I linked to was good IMO.

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.



    https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.

    Fractional Irishman Robert Patrick was the more impressive actor, as a terminator, in T2.

    He ran without hardly breathing, often catching Edward Furlong on his dirtbike, so that he had to speed up, and fired a gun without hardly blinking.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJ72Qrk5ZFY?si=sWFobskKuCFe_qEc

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    Actually, I'm not sure he is Irish at all.

    I was thinking of the names Fitzpatrick and Gillapatrick. But apparently it is also a Scottish and English name. I think he gets the name from Scotch-Irish.

    Still the better terminator though.

  701. @songbird
    @AP


    Schwarzenegger made the same conclusion.
     
    Fractional Irishman Robert Patrick was the more impressive actor, as a terminator, in T2.

    He ran without hardly breathing, often catching Edward Furlong on his dirtbike, so that he had to speed up, and fired a gun without hardly blinking.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJ72Qrk5ZFY?si=sWFobskKuCFe_qEc

    Replies: @songbird

    Actually, I’m not sure he is Irish at all.

    I was thinking of the names Fitzpatrick and Gillapatrick. But apparently it is also a Scottish and English name. I think he gets the name from Scotch-Irish.

    Still the better terminator though.

  702. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Prigo marched to his own tune. Why hasn't the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it's incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election. Regardless, it's asinine to think these posts are sinister election meddling of a foreign power.

    When he as VP, Brandon went to Russia and said that Putin shouldn't seek the Russian presidency. On another comparative note, is the US election meddling activity of Kiev regime and Israeli forces. Never mind US and other Western election meddling in Georgia and Moldova.

    Later with your suggestively selective moralizing of Putin (supposedly) killing his opposition, given what has gone on in US government supported Kiev regime controlled Ukraine and Israel.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Cry more. You’re wrong……and yet again from not investigating on your own. Does that ever get tiring?

    Prigo marched to his own tune.

    It’s still Russian meddling and he was paid annually by Putin before dying in a tragic accident involving cocaine and hand grenades. What a country.

    Why hasn’t the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it’s incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election.

    Prigozhin oversaw a troll farm that targeted swing states with fake FB accounts.

    You were obviously wrong about it not happening so maybe try reading about it before commenting.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    You're being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn't mass media released them? Once again, the answer has to do with these being incoherent babble with much of it posted after the election.

    Once again, compare that election "meddling" with what pro-Kiev regime and Israeli elements have done.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  703. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    I can legitimately call you worse.

    Cry more. You're wrong......and yet again from not investigating on your own. Does that ever get tiring?

    Prigo marched to his own tune.

    It's still Russian meddling and he was paid annually by Putin before dying in a tragic accident involving cocaine and hand grenades. What a country.

    Why hasn’t the content of the IRA posts been quoted in full by US mass media? Because it’s incoherent babble, much of which was posted after the election.

    Prigozhin oversaw a troll farm that targeted swing states with fake FB accounts.

    You were obviously wrong about it not happening so maybe try reading about it before commenting.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    You’re being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn’t mass media released them? Once again, the answer has to do with these being incoherent babble with much of it posted after the election.

    Once again, compare that election “meddling” with what pro-Kiev regime and Israeli elements have done.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    You’re being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn’t mass media released them?

    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn't happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

  704. @Mikel
    @Matra


    The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No?
     
    The problem seems to be that the natives are not playing their role as expected. They did gather in Tblisi for a big demonstration but all they did was read some protest manifesto and scatter away. I don't believe for a second that the astute leaders ruling the EU and the US have learned anything from the Ukrainian experience but what can they do if nobody's willing to die for them in the target country?

    Having said that, I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair) but it's none of my business. Enough problems fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.

    There is an easy option to make things much easier to count on election day. Require federal elections to be exclusively for federal matters — President, Senate, House. Potentially, constitutional amendment referenda.

    Everything else has to be on odd # years. State, County, & Municipal offices. Plus initiatives that need voter approval. I don’t want to doxx myself with specifics, but my ballot was a multi page, potential train wreck.

    PEACE 😇

  705. @Mikel
    @Matra


    The whole Georgia situation seems to have fizzled out. No?
     
    The problem seems to be that the natives are not playing their role as expected. They did gather in Tblisi for a big demonstration but all they did was read some protest manifesto and scatter away. I don't believe for a second that the astute leaders ruling the EU and the US have learned anything from the Ukrainian experience but what can they do if nobody's willing to die for them in the target country?

    Having said that, I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair) but it's none of my business. Enough problems fixing the US election system to get 99.9% of the votes counted on election night, which even countries south of the border have figured out how to do.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    …I have no clue if the elections were rigged or not (I think the OSCE said that they were mostly fair)

    ‘Mostly’ is the operative word…no election given today’s methods and technology is completely clean, only a question of how much and whether the results were impacted.

    What is obvious is that in Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine people are divided half-and-half, at most 50-55% one way or another. And a large ‘neutral’ block that wants peace and quiet.

    So why are EU and NATO pushing the very radical change-everything-now policies? It is bound to backfire and lead to instability and wars. In evenly divided societies insisting on only one-way is very stupid. But it seems both EU and NATO are either too stupid or too arrogant to understand it…

  706. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Watching documentaries that chronicle the career of Putler could only be seen as a sign of pathological paranoia by somebody cutoff from the world, somebody that's real parochial and narrow in his interests. I never liked Bush either. :-(

    Replies: @Beckow

    …I never liked Bush either.

    It doesn’t matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.

    When you watch propaganda that selects a subset of “facts” and paints a narrative you do it to reinforce your pre-existing emotional state. You hate everything about the Russians and so you will find the required ‘facts’. It is unhelpful and in your case it has slipped into paranoia….so don’t forget to check for “KGB agents” under your bed…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    It doesn’t matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.
     
    Since when does offering ones own opinion, especially in a forum like this, not matter? And all of the tripe that you peddle here is the objective truth funneled through you the medium of unadulterated objectivity? Don't make me laugh Beckow, while you scrape the very bottom of the barrel of credulity. :-)

    As for Putler being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA, only goes to validate the point that Russia is currently being run by a mediocrity.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

  707. @Matra
    LOL Ukie diasporoid nationalist AP is now using Hollywitz liberal Iraq War supporters like Arnold Schwarzenegger to back up his arguments. It seems like just a few months ago he was saying we should ignore Tucker Carlson on Ukraine because of his "disgusting" (or words to that effect) support of the Iraq War, even though Tucker, unlike neocon fanboy Arnold, later turned against it. But now it is A-OK to quote Bush-Cheney sycophants like Arnold. If Arnie were a JD Vance supporter AP would be pointing to his lies about seeing Soviet tanks in Austria or him impregnating his family housekeeper in his wife's bed to discredit his opinons but now that he is pro-Kamala (pro-Ukie in AP's blinkered eyes) he's great!

    I also recall AP saying we need to figure out why once conservative Catholic states like Spain, Ireland, and Quebec turned liberal in order to ensure it never happens again. Now he is all-in on a candidate whose big issue is abortion on demand right up until birth, something even most leftist Europeans are horrified by. And then there are her views on transgenderism and the Biden administration track record of going after religious Catholics on one charge or another.

    AP is naked before the world, or the 20 people who visit this forum: A Ukrainian ethnic narcissist who talks out of both sides of his mouth. There wasn't much doubt about it before but lately he's slipped a lot - battlefield defeats getting to him? - and fully exposed himself for what he is.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    This is the Polish-Catholic-hating regime that AP favors:

    [MORE]

  708. If I ran a newspaper in Europe, I think I would try to drop this “first black woman” business, and instead promote this story with a “first Yoruba woman” headline.

    [MORE]

    “First African Tribal chosen to lead a political party in Europe. No female Yoruba has ever led a party, even in Nigeria.”

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    It's a little silly but like the reparations thing with the Caribbean countries it will definitely have some accelerationist effect.

    IRL I see black Africans on a daily basis now, this must be the result of the immigration levels and the fact so many are from Africa.

    Those John Edmond songs seem to have a new relevance. I plan to listen to Sweet Banana later to commemorate Kemi's election to the leadership.

    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    If I ran a newspaper in Europe, I think I would try to drop this “first black woman” business,
     
    You sound like one of those woke food business moguls that purged American food shelves of an iconic symbol of American wholesomeness and good nutrition:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/49/66/c849663df704551079e9c003b93ba931.jpg
    Aunt Jemima, the first lady of the American breakfast table for decades, what have they done to you?...
  709. @songbird
    If I ran a newspaper in Europe, I think I would try to drop this "first black woman" business, and instead promote this story with a "first Yoruba woman" headline.
    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1852670711304794564

    "First African Tribal chosen to lead a political party in Europe. No female Yoruba has ever led a party, even in Nigeria."

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Mr. Hack

    It’s a little silly but like the reparations thing with the Caribbean countries it will definitely have some accelerationist effect.

    IRL I see black Africans on a daily basis now, this must be the result of the immigration levels and the fact so many are from Africa.

    Those John Edmond songs seem to have a new relevance. I plan to listen to Sweet Banana later to commemorate Kemi’s election to the leadership.

    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts


    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

     

    Lol. Can't figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly's father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.https://twitter.com/JamesCleverly/status/1852678686564106417

    It is kind of funny. There seem to be shitlibs on twitter calling Badendoch "far-right". Apparently, for some rather weak comments she made against Muslim terrorists. Perhaps, there is some small positive side to her antagonism against the Hausa.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  710. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...I never liked Bush either.
     
    It doesn't matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.

    When you watch propaganda that selects a subset of "facts" and paints a narrative you do it to reinforce your pre-existing emotional state. You hate everything about the Russians and so you will find the required 'facts'. It is unhelpful and in your case it has slipped into paranoia....so don't forget to check for "KGB agents" under your bed...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    It doesn’t matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.

    Since when does offering ones own opinion, especially in a forum like this, not matter? And all of the tripe that you peddle here is the objective truth funneled through you the medium of unadulterated objectivity? Don’t make me laugh Beckow, while you scrape the very bottom of the barrel of credulity. 🙂

    As for Putler being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA, only goes to validate the point that Russia is currently being run by a mediocrity.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Laugh, Mr. Hack, what else do you have left.

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them? Are they by definition then sub-mediocre? Looking at Biden, Scholz, Zelko that seems about right, doesn't it? (Think a little before you comment.)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @WS
    @Mr. Hack


    being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA
     
    I find this discussion totaly irrelevant, anywhere, anytime. Both were members of state aparatus: be it in foreign service, inteligence, army, NGOs, international financial institituitions, treasury....name it. All belong to the same circle where candidates for high national posts are normally recruited.
  711. @songbird
    If I ran a newspaper in Europe, I think I would try to drop this "first black woman" business, and instead promote this story with a "first Yoruba woman" headline.
    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1852670711304794564

    "First African Tribal chosen to lead a political party in Europe. No female Yoruba has ever led a party, even in Nigeria."

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Mr. Hack

    If I ran a newspaper in Europe, I think I would try to drop this “first black woman” business,

    You sound like one of those woke food business moguls that purged American food shelves of an iconic symbol of American wholesomeness and good nutrition:


    Aunt Jemima, the first lady of the American breakfast table for decades, what have they done to you?…

    • LOL: songbird
  712. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    It's a little silly but like the reparations thing with the Caribbean countries it will definitely have some accelerationist effect.

    IRL I see black Africans on a daily basis now, this must be the result of the immigration levels and the fact so many are from Africa.

    Those John Edmond songs seem to have a new relevance. I plan to listen to Sweet Banana later to commemorate Kemi's election to the leadership.

    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

    Replies: @songbird

    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

    Lol. Can’t figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly’s father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.

    [MORE]
    https://twitter.com/JamesCleverly/status/1852678686564106417

    It is kind of funny. There seem to be shitlibs on twitter calling Badendoch “far-right”. Apparently, for some rather weak comments she made against Muslim terrorists. Perhaps, there is some small positive side to her antagonism against the Hausa.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Lol. Can’t figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly’s father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.
     
    It's possible his father is mixed race, at the same time I was wondering if his father and any uncles and aunts are white but raised in Africa somewhere. If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?

    He is one of the slower Tory BAME leaders, the responses on that tweet thread are quite impressive.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut, I heard about an Afro-Caribbean origin Labour MP tweeting that she represents black face/white privilege, there will be more of that.

    Imo real accelerationism would get started if the Tories weren't appointing the more capable ethnic minorities into leadership roles, some of the Labour BAME contingent are a lot worse, Lammy may be one of the better ones.

    Replies: @songbird

  713. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”
     
    It's both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with 'if we don't stop Putin now, we'll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans'.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries. It's silly to conclude that just because Putin alluded to this reality in a speech in 2005 (while he was giving permission to the US to transport its materiel to Afghanistan through Russia) it means that he wants to rebuild the USSR. No sane person understood it that way, as proven by the fact that as late as 2014 France was about to sell him a helicopter carrier.


    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence
     
    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one's territory and combating terrorists.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?
     

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn't march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario that Putin hasn't even tried to annex territories full of people friendly to Russia that he has controlled for decades, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria.

    Why base one's foreign policy on science-fiction and not on hard realities like the fact that Russia has been surrounded by a hostile military alliance, which the US, Britain or France would never tolerate happening to them?

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.


    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?
     
    It has everything to do with it. It's the exact same nonsense. In fact, if I was as famous as Tulsi, I would have been accused of being a Russian agent as often as she has. So much so that being just an anonymous internet commenter, I have already been accused of being paid by the Kremlin dozens of times in many places. Is there even a politician worth listening to who hasn't been accused of being a Russian agent?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.
     
    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala's strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn't stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.


    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.
     
    There's no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you're voting for Kamala because she's more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump (though not as good as she should be). Obviously, you can't expect this reasoning to be very popular among most of us here but, considering what drives people's votes in a universal suffrage system, I guess your reasons are as good as many others and you should just leave it at that, instead of building impossible justifications on top of the real motive.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries

    What part of the word geopolitical do you not understand? He was talking about territorial collapse and not the decreased well-being of people (which also occurred). He’s motivated to regather those lands.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.

    It depends on degree. About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force; killing ~40,000 civilians in Chechnya (population 1.2 million in 1990) is a slaughter.

    If you don’t see the difference, I can’t help you.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario

    If Ukraine were to fall Moldova would be next. And a high chance of the Baltics following.

    BTW, Putin demanded that NATO leave Poland and Romania.

    Ukraine stands in the way of future plans.

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.

    Ukrainians have been arguing that they need the arms to end the war quickly precisely so that Russia does not slowly learn how to fight better. The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine. They waited, gave restrictions, etc. It’s as if the Biden administration is deliberately pursuing a policy of inoculating Russia against Western weapons and tactics. The Biden administration’s cowardice is incredibly stupid.

    Sean attributes this to a deliberate strategy of denying Russia Ukraine while also building up Russia/spearing it defeat in the hope of a future alliance with Russia against China.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it.

    Are you suggesting that because Russiagate was fake, Russia does not interfere at all and that no American serves Russia?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump.

    Most of America’s historical heartland is voting for Kamala. Of the original 13 colonies, only SC is solidly for Trump. And the historical Charleston area is not.

    Recently-settled, sparsely-populated Kansas may be a geographical heartland but it is not the historical heartland.

    The parts of America that are voting for Trump (outside of Appalachia) are the more rootless parts, recently settled, with no history, either semi-empty frontiers such as Montana or places with downtowns abandoned for strip malls. Trump fandom in these parts goes hand in hand with divorce and opiate abuse, they are all symptoms of an underlying problem. Perhaps a cry for help or rage by poorer segments of society, but for the most part not a reasoned decision made by thoughtful people. Latin American style politics.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.

    The “woke” Puritans have low divorce rates, functional families, high educational achievement, low crime rates, and treasure their history. Their “woke” public schools in New England, best in the world according to PISA, teach their kids Latin and classical Greek, Shakespeare, etc. Traditional Mormons are a heretical offshoot and their outpost out West. Both groups dislike Trump.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders who occupy the lower margins and whose kids and grandkids will be assimilated anyways. America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before. But it has not yet been ruled by a Latin American strongman-like populist demagogue.* That is new and more dangerous. Degradation at the top is far more dangerous than whatever happens at the bottom.

    Again, you don’t feel that because you are not an American. And I’m not sure you are capable of understanding true attachment to a country and its traditions. Based on what you have written here at Unz, you have healthy sentimental feelings to your Basque homeland but don’t care too much if it survives and have not taught your children your native language, you left. You then lived in Eastern Europe for awhile, lived in South America for awhile (never developing loyalty or attachment to either of those places either) before settling among the Mormons in Utah, apparently due to their homeland’s spectacular natural beauty. Yet you have refused to adopt their religion even though they settled that land as their Zion, and refer to many of them as “cucks” and are essentially an outsider there. There’s an ancient population of Basque shepherds in the Great Basin with deep roots in that region, mostly in Nevada, but you haven’t mixed with those people much either.

    So by nature you seem to be rather rootless.

    A nomad. And I do not mean that as an insult, your background has advantages also.

    But it makes sense for you to view Trump’s troublesome innovations as not as bad as Kamala’s.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump

    As I stated, both Kamala and Trump are bad for America, but in different ways. Trump is slightly worse for America than is Kamala. But even if he were slightly better (he is not), I would still vote for whoever is better for Ukraine because Ukraine’s situation is more critical than is the minor difference in goodness or badness for the USA between Trump and Kamala.

    * There have been comparisons to Andrew Jackson but that was 200 years ago, a different world.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @AP

    Beff Jezos concurs. Accelerate!

    Immanentize the Eschatoton!

    Burn baby burn.

    , @Mikel
    @AP


    It depends on degree.
     
    No, it doesn't. It depends entirely on one's moral compass. Aborting 2,500 babies is not more justified than aborting 75,000 babies. Killing 2,500 innocent people so that a country can keep its territorial integrity is no more justified than killing 75,000 innocent people for the same reason.

    About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force
     
    I used to have this sort of discussions with Basque supporters of political violence decades ago and I never came across anyone who would speak of such levels of bloodshed so nonchalantly. If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state, I would at least hesitate to answer.

    The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine.
     
    LOL. Sure, if only the Ukrainians had received the ATACMS a little earlier, they would have reached their 1991 borders.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders
     
    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she's better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.

    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.
     
    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies. Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn't make it had to return home. Nobody is returning home now in a million years. The very few immigrants that return home from the US today are successful people from other 1st World countries: the ones that the US should rather keep the most.

    you don’t feel that because you are not an American
     
    But didn't you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger's opinions on US politics?

    And do you remind your wife that she is not an American and she cannot "feel" Americanness? Is John Derbyshire an American for you? And Alexander Vindmann? Were Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger American enough for you?

    your background has advantages also
     
    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don't have anything to compare it to so it's easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it's much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland. That's why I'm voting the way I am.

    Kamala is not going to change the beauty of the American West for me but she will change the US in other important ways. If you park your car at the trailhead of the Truchas Peak, close to Española, NM, you run a serious risk that someone will vandalize it, exact same problem I used to have mountaineering in Chile. In Utah and its immediate surroundings you don't even have to think about something like that.

    Replies: @AP, @anon

    , @Sean
    @AP

    I think Washington's preference is for the Kremlin to become discouraged and give up, thereby showing the reassuring steadfastness and power of America to allies. If that doesn't happen then Russia only sort of winning by keeping most of their gains since 2022 would be an acceptable result. I think it is clear that Ukraine really winning against an all out effort by Russia is considered undesirable because Russia would be run into the ground by such an effort to win by Putin. The trouble is that Ukraine always does surprisingly well so it is difficult to give Ukrainian just enough to stalemate (fool's mate?) Russia and make them quit, without Ukraine overachieving and trouncing the Russians.

    As already mentioned, the only Ukrainian I know with a close relative in the Ukrainian army just had her 22 year old grandson killed in action. He had been a soldier for three years (think he was from Donbass in what is now Russia occupied territory but not an ethnic Russian). Doubt that is a coincidence it happening now. I suppose if one is cynica,l the idea in Washington may be if to wait until Ukraine is almost out of politically expendable manpower, then give Ukraine the long range missiles to hit supply and command and control hubs with to stop the Russia advance but ensure the Ukrainians are too weak to take advantage.

  714. @Matra
    LOL Ukie diasporoid nationalist AP is now using Hollywitz liberal Iraq War supporters like Arnold Schwarzenegger to back up his arguments. It seems like just a few months ago he was saying we should ignore Tucker Carlson on Ukraine because of his "disgusting" (or words to that effect) support of the Iraq War, even though Tucker, unlike neocon fanboy Arnold, later turned against it. But now it is A-OK to quote Bush-Cheney sycophants like Arnold. If Arnie were a JD Vance supporter AP would be pointing to his lies about seeing Soviet tanks in Austria or him impregnating his family housekeeper in his wife's bed to discredit his opinons but now that he is pro-Kamala (pro-Ukie in AP's blinkered eyes) he's great!

    I also recall AP saying we need to figure out why once conservative Catholic states like Spain, Ireland, and Quebec turned liberal in order to ensure it never happens again. Now he is all-in on a candidate whose big issue is abortion on demand right up until birth, something even most leftist Europeans are horrified by. And then there are her views on transgenderism and the Biden administration track record of going after religious Catholics on one charge or another.

    AP is naked before the world, or the 20 people who visit this forum: A Ukrainian ethnic narcissist who talks out of both sides of his mouth. There wasn't much doubt about it before but lately he's slipped a lot - battlefield defeats getting to him? - and fully exposed himself for what he is.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    LOL Ukie diasporoid nationalist AP is now using Hollywitz liberal Iraq War supporters like Arnold Schwarzenegger to back up his arguments. It seems like just a few months ago he was saying we should ignore Tucker Carlson on Ukraine because of his “disgusting” (or words to that effect) support of the Iraq War, even though Tucker, unlike neocon fanboy Arnold, later turned against it. But now it is A-OK to quote Bush-Cheney sycophants like Arnold.

    Iraq war was horrible but the difference is that neocons who supported the criminal and evil invasion of Iraq can redeem themselves by opposing the criminal and evil invasion of Ukraine. They may not necessarily be doing so for the right reasons, but nevertheless they are doing the right thing now.

    Tucker Carlson meanwhile supported both the evil invasion of Iraq and the evil invasion invasion of Ukraine. He is consistent in his support for bloodthirsty imperialism.

    Also, of course I am no nationalist.

    I also recall AP saying we need to figure out why once conservative Catholic states like Spain, Ireland, and Quebec turned liberal in order to ensure it never happens again.

    That was someone else, I think. But it is a problem I agree, secularism is not sustainable. But those examples seem to demonstrate that rigid enforcement from the top by increasingly old rulers doesn’t work and produces a backlash. We are seeing that in Iran now – rule by the theocrats has produced very high number of atheists, and many converts to Christianity and Zoroastrianism.

    Now he is all-in on a candidate whose big issue is abortion on demand right up until birth, something even most leftist Europeans are horrified by

    I am very happy that the Republican Senate will block her from doing any of these horrible things.

    In the USA, the presidency is very important for foreign policy and for the courts. Trump has, thank God, secured the courts during his term. And I support a policy that helps the Catholics of Eastern Europe rather than bows down to Russian interests.

    In domestic policy the President is blocked by the Senate and Congress. The Republicans will almost certainly not only have the Senate, but will have a solid lead there (probably 54 seats). Congress can go ether way. Ideally, the Republicans will have a more solid majority so that majority leader Johnson will not be blackmailed by the pro-Russian fringe crazies. But either way, a Kamala who moves towards the center, constrained by a Republican legislature, will be okay.

    battlefield defeats getting to him?

    The overall picture isn’t changing much. Russia is sacrificing a lot of men for a little land.

  715. @AP
    @Mikel


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries
     
    What part of the word geopolitical do you not understand? He was talking about territorial collapse and not the decreased well-being of people (which also occurred). He's motivated to regather those lands.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.
     
    It depends on degree. About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force; killing ~40,000 civilians in Chechnya (population 1.2 million in 1990) is a slaughter.

    If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario
     
    If Ukraine were to fall Moldova would be next. And a high chance of the Baltics following.

    BTW, Putin demanded that NATO leave Poland and Romania.

    Ukraine stands in the way of future plans.

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.
     
    Ukrainians have been arguing that they need the arms to end the war quickly precisely so that Russia does not slowly learn how to fight better. The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine. They waited, gave restrictions, etc. It's as if the Biden administration is deliberately pursuing a policy of inoculating Russia against Western weapons and tactics. The Biden administration's cowardice is incredibly stupid.

    Sean attributes this to a deliberate strategy of denying Russia Ukraine while also building up Russia/spearing it defeat in the hope of a future alliance with Russia against China.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it.
     
    Are you suggesting that because Russiagate was fake, Russia does not interfere at all and that no American serves Russia?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump.
     
    Most of America's historical heartland is voting for Kamala. Of the original 13 colonies, only SC is solidly for Trump. And the historical Charleston area is not.

    Recently-settled, sparsely-populated Kansas may be a geographical heartland but it is not the historical heartland.

    The parts of America that are voting for Trump (outside of Appalachia) are the more rootless parts, recently settled, with no history, either semi-empty frontiers such as Montana or places with downtowns abandoned for strip malls. Trump fandom in these parts goes hand in hand with divorce and opiate abuse, they are all symptoms of an underlying problem. Perhaps a cry for help or rage by poorer segments of society, but for the most part not a reasoned decision made by thoughtful people. Latin American style politics.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.
     
    The "woke" Puritans have low divorce rates, functional families, high educational achievement, low crime rates, and treasure their history. Their "woke" public schools in New England, best in the world according to PISA, teach their kids Latin and classical Greek, Shakespeare, etc. Traditional Mormons are a heretical offshoot and their outpost out West. Both groups dislike Trump.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders who occupy the lower margins and whose kids and grandkids will be assimilated anyways. America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before. But it has not yet been ruled by a Latin American strongman-like populist demagogue.* That is new and more dangerous. Degradation at the top is far more dangerous than whatever happens at the bottom.

    Again, you don't feel that because you are not an American. And I'm not sure you are capable of understanding true attachment to a country and its traditions. Based on what you have written here at Unz, you have healthy sentimental feelings to your Basque homeland but don't care too much if it survives and have not taught your children your native language, you left. You then lived in Eastern Europe for awhile, lived in South America for awhile (never developing loyalty or attachment to either of those places either) before settling among the Mormons in Utah, apparently due to their homeland's spectacular natural beauty. Yet you have refused to adopt their religion even though they settled that land as their Zion, and refer to many of them as "cucks" and are essentially an outsider there. There's an ancient population of Basque shepherds in the Great Basin with deep roots in that region, mostly in Nevada, but you haven't mixed with those people much either.

    So by nature you seem to be rather rootless.

    A nomad. And I do not mean that as an insult, your background has advantages also.

    But it makes sense for you to view Trump's troublesome innovations as not as bad as Kamala's.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump
     
    As I stated, both Kamala and Trump are bad for America, but in different ways. Trump is slightly worse for America than is Kamala. But even if he were slightly better (he is not), I would still vote for whoever is better for Ukraine because Ukraine's situation is more critical than is the minor difference in goodness or badness for the USA between Trump and Kamala.


    * There have been comparisons to Andrew Jackson but that was 200 years ago, a different world.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Mikel, @Sean

    Beff Jezos concurs. Accelerate!

    Immanentize the Eschatoton!

    Burn baby burn.

    • LOL: AP
  716. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    You're being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn't mass media released them? Once again, the answer has to do with these being incoherent babble with much of it posted after the election.

    Once again, compare that election "meddling" with what pro-Kiev regime and Israeli elements have done.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You’re being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn’t mass media released them?

    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn’t happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Troll: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    What can you expect from somebody who sees himself as a Russian expert and analyst who either didn't have the intellectual wherewithal or the stamina to learn the Russian language? Using google as a search engine is way above his pay grade. :-(

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

    , @Mikhail
    @John Johnson


    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn’t happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.
     
    I frequently Google. Much unlike yourself, I accurately surmise what's in the given content of a Google search. You've failed to do the same relative to the actual content in the aforementioned FB posts, while ignoring the far greater non-Russian examples of election meddling in the US and elsewhere. Never mind the idea of having the freedom to post on the internet even if it's BS - something you do.

    As for neurotic, you're the sick **** here who on more than one occasion posts suggestively gleeful remarks towards military hits committed by one side.

    So much for your lying.
  717. @Mikel
    @AP


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”
     
    It's both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with 'if we don't stop Putin now, we'll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans'.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries. It's silly to conclude that just because Putin alluded to this reality in a speech in 2005 (while he was giving permission to the US to transport its materiel to Afghanistan through Russia) it means that he wants to rebuild the USSR. No sane person understood it that way, as proven by the fact that as late as 2014 France was about to sell him a helicopter carrier.


    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence
     
    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one's territory and combating terrorists.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?
     

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn't march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario that Putin hasn't even tried to annex territories full of people friendly to Russia that he has controlled for decades, like South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria.

    Why base one's foreign policy on science-fiction and not on hard realities like the fact that Russia has been surrounded by a hostile military alliance, which the US, Britain or France would never tolerate happening to them?

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.


    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?
     
    It has everything to do with it. It's the exact same nonsense. In fact, if I was as famous as Tulsi, I would have been accused of being a Russian agent as often as she has. So much so that being just an anonymous internet commenter, I have already been accused of being paid by the Kremlin dozens of times in many places. Is there even a politician worth listening to who hasn't been accused of being a Russian agent?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.
     
    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala's strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn't stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.


    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.
     
    There's no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you're voting for Kamala because she's more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump (though not as good as she should be). Obviously, you can't expect this reasoning to be very popular among most of us here but, considering what drives people's votes in a universal suffrage system, I guess your reasons are as good as many others and you should just leave it at that, instead of building impossible justifications on top of the real motive.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala’s strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn’t stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    The major divide in the election is actually gender.

    He has the lowest score in history with White women as a GOP candidate.

    White women could very well decide the election.

    • Troll: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

  718. Most Ukrainian asylum seekers have sought refuge in the following countries:

    Germany: 1,212,835
    Poland: 981,335
    Czech Republic: 380,375
    United Kingdom: 250,035
    Spain: 211,305
    Italy: 173,540
    Romania: 162,180
    Slovakia: 127,015
    Republic of Moldova: 123,730
    Netherlands: 120,100
    Ireland: 110,960
    Belgium: 84,170
    Austria: 83,020
    Norway: 76,215
    Finland: 67,830
    Bulgaria: 67,540
    Switzerland: 67,155
    France: 65,410
    Portugal: 63,470
    Hungary: 61,245

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20241101/find-out-where-most-ukrainian-refugees-fled-to-since-february-2022-1120749403.html

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @emil nikola richard

    Sputnik piece notes that these figures exclude the comparatively large number which have gone to Russia and Belarus.

  719. @emil nikola richard
    Most Ukrainian asylum seekers have sought refuge in the following countries:

    Germany: 1,212,835
    Poland: 981,335
    Czech Republic: 380,375
    United Kingdom: 250,035
    Spain: 211,305
    Italy: 173,540
    Romania: 162,180
    Slovakia: 127,015
    Republic of Moldova: 123,730
    Netherlands: 120,100
    Ireland: 110,960
    Belgium: 84,170
    Austria: 83,020
    Norway: 76,215
    Finland: 67,830
    Bulgaria: 67,540
    Switzerland: 67,155
    France: 65,410
    Portugal: 63,470
    Hungary: 61,245

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20241101/find-out-where-most-ukrainian-refugees-fled-to-since-february-2022-1120749403.html

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Sputnik piece notes that these figures exclude the comparatively large number which have gone to Russia and Belarus.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  720. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    You’re being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn’t mass media released them?

    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn't happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

    What can you expect from somebody who sees himself as a Russian expert and analyst who either didn’t have the intellectual wherewithal or the stamina to learn the Russian language? Using google as a search engine is way above his pay grade. 🙁

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Simpletons like yourself and the other like minded troll don't know how to properly use Google in terms of substantiating a claim based on the actual content. Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    There is a very consistent pattern at Unz of Putin defenders not wanting to use Google.

    They clearly don't want to know what they don't know.

  721. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    What can you expect from somebody who sees himself as a Russian expert and analyst who either didn't have the intellectual wherewithal or the stamina to learn the Russian language? Using google as a search engine is way above his pay grade. :-(

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

    Simpletons like yourself and the other like minded troll don’t know how to properly use Google in terms of substantiating a claim based on the actual content. Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mikhail

    Be polite to Mr.Hack and consider his advanced senility - he admitted living with 90 years old roommate.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.
     
    How many "academically referenced " periodicals have you been listed within? When was the last time that this occurred?

    When was the last time that you appeared on any "major media talk show"? Face it Mickey, you've become an outdated cold war dinosaur, a relic of the past. Your opinions are no longer of any interest to anybody. :-(

  722. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump. Kamala’s strongholds are the cosmopolitan coastal regions and blue cities full of transplants in the middle of Red America. If only Americans of European ancestry voted in the elections, Kamala wouldn’t stand any chance. These are hard realities.

    The major divide in the election is actually gender.

    He has the lowest score in history with White women as a GOP candidate.

    White women could very well decide the election.

    Replies: @Derer

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Derer

    Have you ever worked in an office where there are a bunch of women and one of them fucks the boss and gets promoted? The hatred and urge to kill is huge. This is visceral and women are ashamed to admit it but it is tangible, real, and permanent. The hatred for Trump is nothing. The hatred for Harris is unspeakable.

    , @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Another feelings-based Putin defender that avoids using Google.

    Why am I not surprised.

    You could have Googled "White women polls Harris" to see that Trump only has White women by a few points. White women with college degrees are opposed to Trump and that has been true since 2020.

    I was just pointing out in another thread that he has a record low score with White women for a GOP presidential candidate.

    White women will probably decide the election. Ironically if Trump wins it could be through minority men in Georgia and Michigan.

    As for Harris I am not voting for her. I don't support Affirmative Action. The Democrats chose to not have a proper primary and again defaulted to Affirmative Action out of White guilt instead of making a rational decision based on numbers.

    Trump has already proven that he will support the military industrial complex when pressed. I would only be concerned for Ukraine if Vance was president. Ukraine needs troops and France would be a better source.

    Replies: @Derer

  723. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    You’re being an imbecile yet again. What was the actual content in these FB posts? Why hasn’t mass media released them?

    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn't happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

    So you were clearly wrong and yet you are calling me an imbecile.

    Why are you so hesitant to use Google to verify anything?

    I originally provided a text link that you completely ignored. What is your thought process on that? Just hope that I was making it up even though I provided a source?

    It would have taken you less effort to click on the link and read about how it did in fact happen.

    Instead you called me names and doubled down on the hope that it didn’t happen.

    Now you are demanding I give you the details on what were in the posts? You are one strange neurotic Putin defender. This might be a good opportunity for you to practice using Google so you can learn the details of a story on your own.

    I frequently Google. Much unlike yourself, I accurately surmise what’s in the given content of a Google search. You’ve failed to do the same relative to the actual content in the aforementioned FB posts, while ignoring the far greater non-Russian examples of election meddling in the US and elsewhere. Never mind the idea of having the freedom to post on the internet even if it’s BS – something you do.

    As for neurotic, you’re the sick **** here who on more than one occasion posts suggestively gleeful remarks towards military hits committed by one side.

    So much for your lying.

  724. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Simpletons like yourself and the other like minded troll don't know how to properly use Google in terms of substantiating a claim based on the actual content. Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    Be polite to Mr.Hack and consider his advanced senility – he admitted living with 90 years old roommate.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Derer

    Senile or otherwise, it's quite obvious that the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn't be interested in his babble.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    My 90 year old roommate lived through the bombing of Berlin in 1945. He lived through the famine in Ukraine (orchestrated by morons like you), his mother rescued him from the clutches of death, as starving men were considering eating him for dinner. The same mother was the personal secretary to Evhen Konovalets when he was operating in Central Ukraine. He personally attended the same church services with Hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky in Potsdam Germany. More recently, during his trips to Ukraine, he met with and spoke with Presidents Yushchenko and Poroshenko. As a young Ukrainian activist who worked full time at the Library of Congress, he held a part-time gig and he was the Voice of America to Ukraine for a 10-year period producing daily news broadcasts (for among other reasons, he had a perfect command of both the Ukrainian and English languages). One of his most memorable experiences was standing in the front row of the the Lincoln Memorial, when Matin Luther King gave his famous "I have a Dream" speech. He proudly states that his was the only white face, among a sea of black faces.

    And you, young man, what things or events have you witnessed in your lifetime?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikhail

  725. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    It doesn’t matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.
     
    Since when does offering ones own opinion, especially in a forum like this, not matter? And all of the tripe that you peddle here is the objective truth funneled through you the medium of unadulterated objectivity? Don't make me laugh Beckow, while you scrape the very bottom of the barrel of credulity. :-)

    As for Putler being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA, only goes to validate the point that Russia is currently being run by a mediocrity.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

    Laugh, Mr. Hack, what else do you have left.

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them? Are they by definition then sub-mediocre? Looking at Biden, Scholz, Zelko that seems about right, doesn’t it? (Think a little before you comment.)

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them?

    Russia isn't beating NATO. They aren't fighting NATO.

    An actual fight with NATO would start with thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.

    There would be hundreds of F-22s, F-35s and AC-130s in the air and not a handful of F-16s.

    Russia is indeed a mediocrity at war. They could have easily taken all of Ukraine with a proper plan and not a lazy 1930s funnel invasion.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

  726. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    It doesn’t matter who you like, what matters is that Bush was the head of CIA and Putin a low-level operative. You talk one-sided bullsh..t.
     
    Since when does offering ones own opinion, especially in a forum like this, not matter? And all of the tripe that you peddle here is the objective truth funneled through you the medium of unadulterated objectivity? Don't make me laugh Beckow, while you scrape the very bottom of the barrel of credulity. :-)

    As for Putler being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA, only goes to validate the point that Russia is currently being run by a mediocrity.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

    being a low level operative of the KGB and Bush being the head of the CIA

    I find this discussion totaly irrelevant, anywhere, anytime. Both were members of state aparatus: be it in foreign service, inteligence, army, NGOs, international financial institituitions, treasury….name it. All belong to the same circle where candidates for high national posts are normally recruited.

  727. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    What can you expect from somebody who sees himself as a Russian expert and analyst who either didn't have the intellectual wherewithal or the stamina to learn the Russian language? Using google as a search engine is way above his pay grade. :-(

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

    There is a very consistent pattern at Unz of Putin defenders not wanting to use Google.

    They clearly don’t want to know what they don’t know.

  728. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Laugh, Mr. Hack, what else do you have left.

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them? Are they by definition then sub-mediocre? Looking at Biden, Scholz, Zelko that seems about right, doesn't it? (Think a little before you comment.)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them?

    Russia isn’t beating NATO. They aren’t fighting NATO.

    An actual fight with NATO would start with thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.

    There would be hundreds of F-22s, F-35s and AC-130s in the air and not a handful of F-16s.

    Russia is indeed a mediocrity at war. They could have easily taken all of Ukraine with a proper plan and not a lazy 1930s funnel invasion.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Russia isn’t beating NATO. They aren’t fighting NATO.
     
    Yes, they are. But feel free to hide your head in the sand like an ostrich, it will make no difference.

    thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.
     
    Riiiiiight...and Russia wouldn't shoot back, why should they? All those missiles, nuclear or not, why use them? If you really see the world in this monochromic light you may be a complete idiot...and also quite dangerous.
    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want. Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what's up. Then the Russians can make peace with the true Ukrainians without the compradors.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  729. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Simpletons like yourself and the other like minded troll don't know how to properly use Google in terms of substantiating a claim based on the actual content. Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    Tell me when you get academically referenced and appear on major media talk shows instead of making anonymously crank comments.

    How many “academically referenced ” periodicals have you been listed within? When was the last time that this occurred?

    When was the last time that you appeared on any “major media talk show”? Face it Mickey, you’ve become an outdated cold war dinosaur, a relic of the past. Your opinions are no longer of any interest to anybody. 🙁

    • LOL: Mikhail
  730. When have yours ever been? Academia.edu and books like Richard Sakwa’s count as being academically referenced. As for your hypocritically bogus language point you keep bringing up (not doing so with some others like troll JJ):

    https://inosmi.ru/search/?query=Averko

    Numerous native born fluent FSU Russian speakers value that input. These people exhibit a far greater degree of intelligence than yourself.

  731. @Derer
    @Mikhail

    Be polite to Mr.Hack and consider his advanced senility - he admitted living with 90 years old roommate.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    Senile or otherwise, it’s quite obvious that the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn’t be interested in his babble.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn’t be interested in his babble.
     
    It looks like these outlets have long ceased having any interest in you perspectives either. When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  732. @Derer
    @Mikhail

    Be polite to Mr.Hack and consider his advanced senility - he admitted living with 90 years old roommate.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    My 90 year old roommate lived through the bombing of Berlin in 1945. He lived through the famine in Ukraine (orchestrated by morons like you), his mother rescued him from the clutches of death, as starving men were considering eating him for dinner. The same mother was the personal secretary to Evhen Konovalets when he was operating in Central Ukraine. He personally attended the same church services with Hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky in Potsdam Germany. More recently, during his trips to Ukraine, he met with and spoke with Presidents Yushchenko and Poroshenko. As a young Ukrainian activist who worked full time at the Library of Congress, he held a part-time gig and he was the Voice of America to Ukraine for a 10-year period producing daily news broadcasts (for among other reasons, he had a perfect command of both the Ukrainian and English languages). One of his most memorable experiences was standing in the front row of the the Lincoln Memorial, when Matin Luther King gave his famous “I have a Dream” speech. He proudly states that his was the only white face, among a sea of black faces.

    And you, young man, what things or events have you witnessed in your lifetime?

    • Thanks: Derer
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    How are you not living with a woman? You seem like a likeable guy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    The irony of your suggestively sarcastic, righteous and most hypocritical indignation.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  733. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them?

    Russia isn't beating NATO. They aren't fighting NATO.

    An actual fight with NATO would start with thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.

    There would be hundreds of F-22s, F-35s and AC-130s in the air and not a handful of F-16s.

    Russia is indeed a mediocrity at war. They could have easily taken all of Ukraine with a proper plan and not a lazy 1930s funnel invasion.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    …Russia isn’t beating NATO. They aren’t fighting NATO.

    Yes, they are. But feel free to hide your head in the sand like an ostrich, it will make no difference.

    thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.

    Riiiiiight…and Russia wouldn’t shoot back, why should they? All those missiles, nuclear or not, why use them? If you really see the world in this monochromic light you may be a complete idiot…and also quite dangerous.

    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
  734. @Mikhail
    @Derer

    Senile or otherwise, it's quite obvious that the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn't be interested in his babble.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn’t be interested in his babble.

    It looks like these outlets have long ceased having any interest in you perspectives either. When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    When did you ever appear at such? BBC has since gone to a very censored state on Russia related matters. In more recent times, Americans are threatened with legal action if they appear on RT on a fee paid basis.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  735. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

    Have you ever worked in an office where there are a bunch of women and one of them fucks the boss and gets promoted? The hatred and urge to kill is huge. This is visceral and women are ashamed to admit it but it is tangible, real, and permanent. The hatred for Trump is nothing. The hatred for Harris is unspeakable.

  736. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    the likes of the BBC, RT, WABC NY Talk Radio and the svido equivalent of the World Russia Forum wouldn’t be interested in his babble.
     
    It looks like these outlets have long ceased having any interest in you perspectives either. When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    When did you ever appear at such? BBC has since gone to a very censored state on Russia related matters. In more recent times, Americans are threatened with legal action if they appear on RT on a fee paid basis.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Blah, blah, blah.....

    It looks like these outlets have long ceased having any interest in your perspectives either. When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

  737. How true is this frogs-used-to-preserve-milk story?

    [MORE]

  738. @AP
    @Mikel


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries
     
    What part of the word geopolitical do you not understand? He was talking about territorial collapse and not the decreased well-being of people (which also occurred). He's motivated to regather those lands.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.
     
    It depends on degree. About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force; killing ~40,000 civilians in Chechnya (population 1.2 million in 1990) is a slaughter.

    If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario
     
    If Ukraine were to fall Moldova would be next. And a high chance of the Baltics following.

    BTW, Putin demanded that NATO leave Poland and Romania.

    Ukraine stands in the way of future plans.

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.
     
    Ukrainians have been arguing that they need the arms to end the war quickly precisely so that Russia does not slowly learn how to fight better. The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine. They waited, gave restrictions, etc. It's as if the Biden administration is deliberately pursuing a policy of inoculating Russia against Western weapons and tactics. The Biden administration's cowardice is incredibly stupid.

    Sean attributes this to a deliberate strategy of denying Russia Ukraine while also building up Russia/spearing it defeat in the hope of a future alliance with Russia against China.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it.
     
    Are you suggesting that because Russiagate was fake, Russia does not interfere at all and that no American serves Russia?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump.
     
    Most of America's historical heartland is voting for Kamala. Of the original 13 colonies, only SC is solidly for Trump. And the historical Charleston area is not.

    Recently-settled, sparsely-populated Kansas may be a geographical heartland but it is not the historical heartland.

    The parts of America that are voting for Trump (outside of Appalachia) are the more rootless parts, recently settled, with no history, either semi-empty frontiers such as Montana or places with downtowns abandoned for strip malls. Trump fandom in these parts goes hand in hand with divorce and opiate abuse, they are all symptoms of an underlying problem. Perhaps a cry for help or rage by poorer segments of society, but for the most part not a reasoned decision made by thoughtful people. Latin American style politics.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.
     
    The "woke" Puritans have low divorce rates, functional families, high educational achievement, low crime rates, and treasure their history. Their "woke" public schools in New England, best in the world according to PISA, teach their kids Latin and classical Greek, Shakespeare, etc. Traditional Mormons are a heretical offshoot and their outpost out West. Both groups dislike Trump.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders who occupy the lower margins and whose kids and grandkids will be assimilated anyways. America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before. But it has not yet been ruled by a Latin American strongman-like populist demagogue.* That is new and more dangerous. Degradation at the top is far more dangerous than whatever happens at the bottom.

    Again, you don't feel that because you are not an American. And I'm not sure you are capable of understanding true attachment to a country and its traditions. Based on what you have written here at Unz, you have healthy sentimental feelings to your Basque homeland but don't care too much if it survives and have not taught your children your native language, you left. You then lived in Eastern Europe for awhile, lived in South America for awhile (never developing loyalty or attachment to either of those places either) before settling among the Mormons in Utah, apparently due to their homeland's spectacular natural beauty. Yet you have refused to adopt their religion even though they settled that land as their Zion, and refer to many of them as "cucks" and are essentially an outsider there. There's an ancient population of Basque shepherds in the Great Basin with deep roots in that region, mostly in Nevada, but you haven't mixed with those people much either.

    So by nature you seem to be rather rootless.

    A nomad. And I do not mean that as an insult, your background has advantages also.

    But it makes sense for you to view Trump's troublesome innovations as not as bad as Kamala's.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump
     
    As I stated, both Kamala and Trump are bad for America, but in different ways. Trump is slightly worse for America than is Kamala. But even if he were slightly better (he is not), I would still vote for whoever is better for Ukraine because Ukraine's situation is more critical than is the minor difference in goodness or badness for the USA between Trump and Kamala.


    * There have been comparisons to Andrew Jackson but that was 200 years ago, a different world.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Mikel, @Sean

    It depends on degree.

    No, it doesn’t. It depends entirely on one’s moral compass. Aborting 2,500 babies is not more justified than aborting 75,000 babies. Killing 2,500 innocent people so that a country can keep its territorial integrity is no more justified than killing 75,000 innocent people for the same reason.

    About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force

    I used to have this sort of discussions with Basque supporters of political violence decades ago and I never came across anyone who would speak of such levels of bloodshed so nonchalantly. If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state, I would at least hesitate to answer.

    The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine.

    LOL. Sure, if only the Ukrainians had received the ATACMS a little earlier, they would have reached their 1991 borders.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders

    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she’s better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.

    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.

    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies. Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn’t make it had to return home. Nobody is returning home now in a million years. The very few immigrants that return home from the US today are successful people from other 1st World countries: the ones that the US should rather keep the most.

    you don’t feel that because you are not an American

    But didn’t you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger’s opinions on US politics?

    And do you remind your wife that she is not an American and she cannot “feel” Americanness? Is John Derbyshire an American for you? And Alexander Vindmann? Were Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger American enough for you?

    your background has advantages also

    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don’t have anything to compare it to so it’s easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it’s much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland. That’s why I’m voting the way I am.

    Kamala is not going to change the beauty of the American West for me but she will change the US in other important ways. If you park your car at the trailhead of the Truchas Peak, close to Española, NM, you run a serious risk that someone will vandalize it, exact same problem I used to have mountaineering in Chile. In Utah and its immediate surroundings you don’t even have to think about something like that.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    It depends on degree.

    No, it doesn’t.
     

    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    It depends entirely on one’s moral compass.

     

    In my moral compass killing 40,000 is much worse than killing 2,600.

    Not only in terms of the numbers themselves, but to the fact that this extreme disparity points to other things, such as motive and goals.

    A war policy that results in 2,600 civilian deaths in a territory with 6 million people must in its essence be fundamentally different from a war policy that results in 40,000 civilian deaths in a territory of 1.2 million people. Putin killed about 15 times more Chechens in absolute terms and 75 times more Chechens in per capita terms when crushing the rebellion in Chechnya, than the Ukrainians did in Donbas. This obviously reflects the fact that Putin held much less regard for human life than did Kiev's leaders.


    If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state,
     
    Are you suggesting that these people were some sort of a deliberate sacrifice?

    Did you know that civilians (and animals) die in any war, even if they are not deliberately targeted for death? That is why it is better not to start one, as the Russians did in Donbas in 2014.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders

    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she’s better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.
     

    I'll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc. An American Hitler.* I didn't know it because I wasn't familiar with Vance, but Vance was saying the same thing about Trump around that time. I did blame Republican elites for neglecting the needs of those lower class white voters; they should have been more paternalistic and less greedy.

    I helpfully pointed out that Trump won the places where people die of prescription drug overdoses:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/saturday-elections-open-thread/#comment-1346761

    I had voted for Kasich in the Republican primary - a very competent technocrat who was architect of America's balanced budget during the Clinton years (Clinton was forced to go along because the Republicans controlled congress).

    But I was very pleasantly surprised to see that the 2016-2020 Trump administration had competent managers and made a lot of good policy. Clearly better than Obama's had been. So I voted for Trump in 2020. If Trump had the same team now that he did in 2020 I would have without hesitation voted for him this election.

    Unfortunately, most of Trump's competent advisors are gone and have been replaced by a bunch of clowns like RFK Jr. Even worse, those who had made Trump's prior administration a success are mostly advising voters not to vote for Trump.

    So I didn't.

    So don't imply that my voting for Kamala is some sort of recent opportunism driven solely by Ukraine policy.


    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.

    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music.
     

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn't regard illiterate Irish as "quintessentially European" lol (should I post their cartoons?) and illiterate Sicilian peasants of the 19th century had as much in common with the Renaissance as Mexicans. There are plenty of baroque cathedrals in Mexico, and Mexico was producing its own baroque music.

    Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn’t make it had to return home.
     
    These are negative factors, though illegals don't have the same access to welfare, at least in some states. This may contribute to them being such hard workers.

    And they do assimilate. They and their descendants become English-speaking, and many even vote Republican. Especially in places where white people vote Republican, such as Texas or Florida. Not to the same degree as white people, but moving in that direction. But not in California, where White people vote Democrat too.

    American Latinos tend to assimilate to America's working class.

    By the way, Steve Sailer has shown that the turning point against the GOP in California was not because of Mexicans but because Washington shut down a lot of the defense industry. You, too, don't like the defense industry very much. Helping Ukraine benefits it, of course.


    you don’t feel that because you are not an American

    But didn’t you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger’s opinions on US politics
     

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.

    You shopped around various countries before eventually coming here from Latin America.


    your background has advantages also

    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don’t have anything to compare it to so it’s easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it’s much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland.
     

    Indeed. As a rootless wanderer and outsider, you can examine different places like a consumer examines brands of cars, dispassionately assessing strengths and weaknesses (for you). Novelty and lack of tradition don't mean much to do, because you can't feel them - it isn't your country, and you rejected your own traditions anyways (you are neither religious nor did you transmit your language to your children). It's a powerful position to be in, there are advantages to it of course.

    Meanwhile, an American such as myself is simply disturbed by the very untraditional un-American politics of Trump, a cry for help and a cry of rage of the lower less successful segments of American society that looks like something from South of the Border rather than what America should have.

    *Which, as I pointed out, was not like the German one in the most infamous aspects.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    , @anon
    @Mikel


    Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies.

     

    After reading Laurent Guyenot's article on this site, I tend to think that the Renaissance was another word for the transfer or rather theft of Byzantine culture.

    What are Third world societies? I think Southern Italy has many characteristics of Third world societies, with its crime (Mafia) and all the rest.

  739. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    When did you ever appear at such? BBC has since gone to a very censored state on Russia related matters. In more recent times, Americans are threatened with legal action if they appear on RT on a fee paid basis.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Blah, blah, blah…..

    It looks like these outlets have long ceased having any interest in your perspectives either. When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

  740. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    My 90 year old roommate lived through the bombing of Berlin in 1945. He lived through the famine in Ukraine (orchestrated by morons like you), his mother rescued him from the clutches of death, as starving men were considering eating him for dinner. The same mother was the personal secretary to Evhen Konovalets when he was operating in Central Ukraine. He personally attended the same church services with Hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky in Potsdam Germany. More recently, during his trips to Ukraine, he met with and spoke with Presidents Yushchenko and Poroshenko. As a young Ukrainian activist who worked full time at the Library of Congress, he held a part-time gig and he was the Voice of America to Ukraine for a 10-year period producing daily news broadcasts (for among other reasons, he had a perfect command of both the Ukrainian and English languages). One of his most memorable experiences was standing in the front row of the the Lincoln Memorial, when Matin Luther King gave his famous "I have a Dream" speech. He proudly states that his was the only white face, among a sea of black faces.

    And you, young man, what things or events have you witnessed in your lifetime?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    How are you not living with a woman? You seem like a likeable guy.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I've been married before, have had numerous girlfriends, but there's something that always seems to go wrong. I know that I'm not the only bachelor out there...perhaps, I'm not as likable as you think?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  741. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @John Johnson

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Another feelings-based Putin defender that avoids using Google.

    Why am I not surprised.

    You could have Googled “White women polls Harris” to see that Trump only has White women by a few points. White women with college degrees are opposed to Trump and that has been true since 2020.

    I was just pointing out in another thread that he has a record low score with White women for a GOP presidential candidate.

    White women will probably decide the election. Ironically if Trump wins it could be through minority men in Georgia and Michigan.

    As for Harris I am not voting for her. I don’t support Affirmative Action. The Democrats chose to not have a proper primary and again defaulted to Affirmative Action out of White guilt instead of making a rational decision based on numbers.

    Trump has already proven that he will support the military industrial complex when pressed. I would only be concerned for Ukraine if Vance was president. Ukraine needs troops and France would be a better source.

    • Troll: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson


    Another feelings-based Putin defender that avoids using Google
     
    Exactly, Google is the biggest internet spy that I try to avoid. I am pretty sure that they have in their, for sale, database even your circumcised penis size Johnson. Both creators of Google are circumcised and not politically neutral (that goes for Facebook as well) and that to me indicates they hate Putin and everything Russians. As an internet service provider they should stay away from filthy politics.
  742. There is evidence Harris has made gains among white women overall: A Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday showed Trump and Harris splitting the vote of white women 46% to 44%, a notable improvement over 2020, when they favored Trump over Joe Biden by 16 points.

    https://religionnews.com/2024/10/30/meet-the-conservative-religious-women-voting-for-kamala-harris/

    It looks like I am not insane and actually read articles.

    White women do not hate Harris and quiet White female voters in swing states could actually flip the election for her.

    Trump should be going after them instead of rallying in NYC. My God that was a dumb move.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson


    Trump should be going after them instead of rallying in NYC. My God that was a dumb move.
     
    How is he even able to go after them if he is half-senile, incoherent and doesn't have a filter - he says things such as "I'll protect them if they want it or not".

    Does the sentiment of the White women surprise you after the type of rhetoric that has come out of the Trump camp? The misogyny is way, way over the top... not even so much from Trump himself, but all those sidekicks. I've never seen anything like this. They are breaking all norms of decency. And just the sheer hypocrisy of it - singling out just women and blaming them for all the problems. Yea, let's ban abortion in the age of Tinder! How about ban Tinder and porn first? No, because then the foreign tech billionaires (who want to take over America) and other libertarian defenders of "meritocracy" will scream!

    Did you hear Tucker's raging rant about spanking his "hormonal daughter"? How is that not insane to talk that way publicly? It would be funny if it weren't so serious. One can argue that the American politics have always included such nuttiness, but to take it as far as this time....?

    They no longer have a filter for some reason. The Republican party is not a conservative party.

  743. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    My 90 year old roommate lived through the bombing of Berlin in 1945. He lived through the famine in Ukraine (orchestrated by morons like you), his mother rescued him from the clutches of death, as starving men were considering eating him for dinner. The same mother was the personal secretary to Evhen Konovalets when he was operating in Central Ukraine. He personally attended the same church services with Hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky in Potsdam Germany. More recently, during his trips to Ukraine, he met with and spoke with Presidents Yushchenko and Poroshenko. As a young Ukrainian activist who worked full time at the Library of Congress, he held a part-time gig and he was the Voice of America to Ukraine for a 10-year period producing daily news broadcasts (for among other reasons, he had a perfect command of both the Ukrainian and English languages). One of his most memorable experiences was standing in the front row of the the Lincoln Memorial, when Matin Luther King gave his famous "I have a Dream" speech. He proudly states that his was the only white face, among a sea of black faces.

    And you, young man, what things or events have you witnessed in your lifetime?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    The irony of your suggestively sarcastic, righteous and most hypocritical indignation.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    No irony nor any sarcasm on my part, only a simple question that you embarrassingly cannot answer:

    When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  744. If this rumor is correct the team Harris counterpart to RFK jr is a tranny.

    (And AP prefers the latter)

    [MORE]

    I don’t know, but I think a guy who has been infected by worms and who has an appreciation for whale carcasses would make an interesting health secretary.

    As opposed to someone who is mentally ill, has gay STDs, and an interest in the excretory system.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Vote for anal sex and any time up to 8 months 3 weeks abortion!

    Satanists for Willie Brown's Skank Ho.

    Replies: @songbird

  745. @songbird
    If this rumor is correct the team Harris counterpart to RFK jr is a tranny.

    (And AP prefers the latter)

    https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1852706562231476459

    I don't know, but I think a guy who has been infected by worms and who has an appreciation for whale carcasses would make an interesting health secretary.

    As opposed to someone who is mentally ill, has gay STDs, and an interest in the excretory system.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Vote for anal sex and any time up to 8 months 3 weeks abortion!

    Satanists for Willie Brown’s Skank Ho.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    No doubt about it: AP has made a Faustian pact with participants in one of the Devil's midnight orgies.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  746. RFK Jr takes a lot of drugs to have that body. He is the Liver King of politics.

  747. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    The irony of your suggestively sarcastic, righteous and most hypocritical indignation.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No irony nor any sarcasm on my part, only a simple question that you embarrassingly cannot answer:

    When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    When did you ever engage in such? Obviously never, as evidenced by your extremely ignorant understanding of geopolitics and overly subjective svidomite views on Russia-Ukraine related matter.

    You bring up other issues when your idiotic notions have been clearly debunked. You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo, while embracing a lying bigoted anti-Russian troll who has made overtly racist comments about Blacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  748. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    How are you not living with a woman? You seem like a likeable guy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’ve been married before, have had numerous girlfriends, but there’s something that always seems to go wrong. I know that I’m not the only bachelor out there…perhaps, I’m not as likable as you think?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    I’ve been married before, have had numerous girlfriends, but there’s something that always seems to go wrong. I know that I’m not the only bachelor out there…perhaps, I’m not as likable as you think?

    Something seems to go wrong....what does that mean? They leave you?

    Your personality seems fine.

    You probably just need a woman with a degree. Try dating a nurse or a doctor.

  749. @John Johnson
    There is evidence Harris has made gains among white women overall: A Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday showed Trump and Harris splitting the vote of white women 46% to 44%, a notable improvement over 2020, when they favored Trump over Joe Biden by 16 points.

    https://religionnews.com/2024/10/30/meet-the-conservative-religious-women-voting-for-kamala-harris/

    It looks like I am not insane and actually read articles.

    White women do not hate Harris and quiet White female voters in swing states could actually flip the election for her.

    Trump should be going after them instead of rallying in NYC. My God that was a dumb move.

    Replies: @LatW

    Trump should be going after them instead of rallying in NYC. My God that was a dumb move.

    How is he even able to go after them if he is half-senile, incoherent and doesn’t have a filter – he says things such as “I’ll protect them if they want it or not”.

    Does the sentiment of the White women surprise you after the type of rhetoric that has come out of the Trump camp? The misogyny is way, way over the top… not even so much from Trump himself, but all those sidekicks. I’ve never seen anything like this. They are breaking all norms of decency. And just the sheer hypocrisy of it – singling out just women and blaming them for all the problems. Yea, let’s ban abortion in the age of Tinder! How about ban Tinder and porn first? No, because then the foreign tech billionaires (who want to take over America) and other libertarian defenders of “meritocracy” will scream!

    Did you hear Tucker’s raging rant about spanking his “hormonal daughter”? How is that not insane to talk that way publicly? It would be funny if it weren’t so serious. One can argue that the American politics have always included such nuttiness, but to take it as far as this time….?

    They no longer have a filter for some reason. The Republican party is not a conservative party.

  750. More importantly (a few good rants, you have to scroll ahead a bit to where he gives the names of all the (often foreign) individuals and orgs that are carrying out this takeover of America, and, btw, my instincts about BAP were right, as he is one of the “meritocrats” with his misinterpreted reading of Nietzsche, he is sponsored or propped up by the same people (Thiel, etc)):

    https://rumble.com/v5l9zdw-america-first-ep.-1417.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

    https://rumble.com/v5kt64q-the-problem-with-a-colorblind-meritocracy.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

    https://rumble.com/v5k0cpu-soros-funded-magazine-calls-for-censorship-against-groypers.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

  751. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Vote for anal sex and any time up to 8 months 3 weeks abortion!

    Satanists for Willie Brown's Skank Ho.

    Replies: @songbird

    No doubt about it: AP has made a Faustian pact with participants in one of the Devil’s midnight orgies.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I would consider it a big favor if you could tune in to Tennessee's greatest media personality and find out who the Hawk Tuah chick is endorsing.

    Replies: @songbird

  752. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    No doubt about it: AP has made a Faustian pact with participants in one of the Devil's midnight orgies.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    I would consider it a big favor if you could tune in to Tennessee’s greatest media personality and find out who the Hawk Tuah chick is endorsing.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Monika Lewinsky endorsed Harris.

    Was going to troll AP by calling her an ethnic compatriot, but then I did an early life check.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  753. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    No irony nor any sarcasm on my part, only a simple question that you embarrassingly cannot answer:

    When was the last time that you were asked to take part in any of these forums?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    When did you ever engage in such? Obviously never, as evidenced by your extremely ignorant understanding of geopolitics and overly subjective svidomite views on Russia-Ukraine related matter.

    You bring up other issues when your idiotic notions have been clearly debunked. You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo, while embracing a lying bigoted anti-Russian troll who has made overtly racist comments about Blacks.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo,
     
    MLK's speech is considered to be one of the most important speeches made in the US during the 20th century. At the time it was made, most critical thinkers would weigh in and admit that Black Americans were mistreated and deserved a better deal while living in and working in America. The fact that the civil rights movement went off the rails and morphed into the cynical and unsustainable woke ideology of today is unfortunate and another story.

    Among the most quoted lines of the speech are "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"[31]
     
    Do you find anything at all reprehensible about these sentiments that are the pillar of this speech?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  754. This woman was born in Sichuan.

    What is the regional stereotype for such? Where are the feistiest Chinese women supposed to be from? I thought vaguely it was Southern China, but probably more complicated, I imagine.

    [MORE]

  755. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    When did you ever engage in such? Obviously never, as evidenced by your extremely ignorant understanding of geopolitics and overly subjective svidomite views on Russia-Ukraine related matter.

    You bring up other issues when your idiotic notions have been clearly debunked. You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo, while embracing a lying bigoted anti-Russian troll who has made overtly racist comments about Blacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo,

    MLK’s speech is considered to be one of the most important speeches made in the US during the 20th century. At the time it was made, most critical thinkers would weigh in and admit that Black Americans were mistreated and deserved a better deal while living in and working in America. The fact that the civil rights movement went off the rails and morphed into the cynical and unsustainable woke ideology of today is unfortunate and another story.

    Among the most quoted lines of the speech are “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!”[31]

    Do you find anything at all reprehensible about these sentiments that are the pillar of this speech?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    What's convoluted is what you very selectively cherry pick, along the lines of how some spun Trump as favoring to shoot Liz Cheney.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiZHTs78Ck

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  756. I made it halfway through the transcript of Rogan Vance. Like Roberto Duran said to the ref in the Sugar Ray Leonard fight.

    No Mas.

    It is really bad. Like I don’t think Rogan’s psych medication cocktail was working very well that day.

  757. A123 will have to review this game when it comes out.

    I am intrigued by the political dimension of it. A game made by the Chinese about Japs taking over America? And it is supposed to be nostalgic for the ’80s? (But for American culture or Japanese or both?)

    [MORE]

    I think I recognized a reference to Raoh

    Anyway, I am surprised that the game wasn’t censored by the CCP.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    In 1990 heritage Americans were pretty aggro about Japanese industrial might buying America for salvage. Michael Crichton had a big best selling novel which probably inspired a lot of chinks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_(Crichton_novel)

    Published in 1992 but Crichton was the climax of a tsunami culture wave that had been building for years.

    Replies: @songbird

  758. @songbird
    A123 will have to review this game when it comes out.

    I am intrigued by the political dimension of it. A game made by the Chinese about Japs taking over America? And it is supposed to be nostalgic for the '80s? (But for American culture or Japanese or both?)
    https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1852242430822879670

    I think I recognized a reference to Raoh
    https://youtu.be/HrE6kZp9OeQ?si=iiImKRbgjgADgaLs

    Anyway, I am surprised that the game wasn't censored by the CCP.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    In 1990 heritage Americans were pretty aggro about Japanese industrial might buying America for salvage. Michael Crichton had a big best selling novel which probably inspired a lot of chinks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_(Crichton_novel)

    Published in 1992 but Crichton was the climax of a tsunami culture wave that had been building for years.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Have read Crichton's novel. It is an airport pulp. But interesting because there have been very few mainstream cultural depictions, where American is threatened by racial outsiders. Feels like they deliberately backpedaled the idea in the movie by casting Wesley Snipes.

    In Airframe there is also some subplot about an American aviation company selling out Koreans or something. Giving them the secret sauce of manufacturing the wing - the most difficult part of the airframe.

    For a mainstream cultural icon, Crichton seems to have been surprisingly right wing, IMO. But I don't think he ever mentioned immigration?

    In Back to the Future 2 and Robocop 3, there are also scenes touching on the Japanese. But mere fleeting shadows, before American was drowned by immigration.

    https://youtu.be/Km6bFBSVty4?si=ypgZxNFbkhg-yOqd
    https://youtu.be/TzL626WF090?si=SJ7eZ24Wyr2dEN40

    Probably the most racially-aware depiction is in Cavell's books and tv adaptations.

    Replies: @songbird

  759. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    If Russia is run by a mediocrity and is beating the Ukies and NATO what does it make them?

    Russia isn't beating NATO. They aren't fighting NATO.

    An actual fight with NATO would start with thousands of conventional warhead cruise missiles being launched at Russian positions.

    There would be hundreds of F-22s, F-35s and AC-130s in the air and not a handful of F-16s.

    Russia is indeed a mediocrity at war. They could have easily taken all of Ukraine with a proper plan and not a lazy 1930s funnel invasion.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want. Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what’s up. Then the Russians can make peace with the true Ukrainians without the compradors.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want.

    I'm not saying it was ever a good idea. I am saying their original military goals were achievable.

    Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what’s up.

    So failing to take Kiev was all part of a 5d chess plan?

    Not sure if killing the relatives of citizens is an appeal to their sensibility.

    What you're really hoping for is that Ukraine runs out of manpower so Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win. Putin will raise his "mission accomplished" banner over the ruins and hope that everyone forgets his invasion speech where he said the goal was to stop NATO from moving East. Ukraine ends up less Russian and Russia ends up more Muslim.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

  760. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    In 1990 heritage Americans were pretty aggro about Japanese industrial might buying America for salvage. Michael Crichton had a big best selling novel which probably inspired a lot of chinks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_(Crichton_novel)

    Published in 1992 but Crichton was the climax of a tsunami culture wave that had been building for years.

    Replies: @songbird

    Have read Crichton’s novel. It is an airport pulp. But interesting because there have been very few mainstream cultural depictions, where American is threatened by racial outsiders. Feels like they deliberately backpedaled the idea in the movie by casting Wesley Snipes.

    In Airframe there is also some subplot about an American aviation company selling out Koreans or something. Giving them the secret sauce of manufacturing the wing – the most difficult part of the airframe.

    For a mainstream cultural icon, Crichton seems to have been surprisingly right wing, IMO. But I don’t think he ever mentioned immigration?

    In Back to the Future 2 and Robocop 3, there are also scenes touching on the Japanese. But mere fleeting shadows, before American was drowned by immigration.

    [MORE]

    https://youtu.be/TzL626WF090?si=SJ7eZ24Wyr2dEN40

    Probably the most racially-aware depiction is in Cavell’s books and tv adaptations.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    LMAO.

    "Senpai, rough neighborhoods may be America's last advantage."
    https://youtu.be/-EXt9QUAWz4?si=j1qKIECiE6f0JPvx

  761. Big political shakeup in Botswana.

    People are saying it will go to hell in a handbasket.

    But I don’t know. Heard that the capital is only place that seems like an outlier and the rest of the country is very standard Africa. (Maybe that is an obsolete assessment? But am skeptical.). And it remains less diverse, whatever that is worth in Africa.

  762. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Have read Crichton's novel. It is an airport pulp. But interesting because there have been very few mainstream cultural depictions, where American is threatened by racial outsiders. Feels like they deliberately backpedaled the idea in the movie by casting Wesley Snipes.

    In Airframe there is also some subplot about an American aviation company selling out Koreans or something. Giving them the secret sauce of manufacturing the wing - the most difficult part of the airframe.

    For a mainstream cultural icon, Crichton seems to have been surprisingly right wing, IMO. But I don't think he ever mentioned immigration?

    In Back to the Future 2 and Robocop 3, there are also scenes touching on the Japanese. But mere fleeting shadows, before American was drowned by immigration.

    https://youtu.be/Km6bFBSVty4?si=ypgZxNFbkhg-yOqd
    https://youtu.be/TzL626WF090?si=SJ7eZ24Wyr2dEN40

    Probably the most racially-aware depiction is in Cavell's books and tv adaptations.

    Replies: @songbird

    LMAO.

    “Senpai, rough neighborhoods may be America’s last advantage.”

    [MORE]

  763. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I've been married before, have had numerous girlfriends, but there's something that always seems to go wrong. I know that I'm not the only bachelor out there...perhaps, I'm not as likable as you think?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I’ve been married before, have had numerous girlfriends, but there’s something that always seems to go wrong. I know that I’m not the only bachelor out there…perhaps, I’m not as likable as you think?

    Something seems to go wrong….what does that mean? They leave you?

    Your personality seems fine.

    You probably just need a woman with a degree. Try dating a nurse or a doctor.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  764. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want. Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what's up. Then the Russians can make peace with the true Ukrainians without the compradors.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want.

    I’m not saying it was ever a good idea. I am saying their original military goals were achievable.

    Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what’s up.

    So failing to take Kiev was all part of a 5d chess plan?

    Not sure if killing the relatives of citizens is an appeal to their sensibility.

    What you’re really hoping for is that Ukraine runs out of manpower so Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win. Putin will raise his “mission accomplished” banner over the ruins and hope that everyone forgets his invasion speech where he said the goal was to stop NATO from moving East. Ukraine ends up less Russian and Russia ends up more Muslim.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable. That has not happened for Gulf I and II or the Balkans so I am not holding my breath.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win....where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.
     
    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine - and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan. If that holds it will be a huge geopolitical win for Russia (and don't bore us again with "Finland!" - the Finns were de facto in NATO for decades.)

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas - 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated - losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine and Kiev comprador-oligarchs sold out their people for a few villas in Spain and Florida. Both were abnormal behaviors - unfortunately the price will be paid by the regular Ukies.

    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  765. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want.

    I'm not saying it was ever a good idea. I am saying their original military goals were achievable.

    Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what’s up.

    So failing to take Kiev was all part of a 5d chess plan?

    Not sure if killing the relatives of citizens is an appeal to their sensibility.

    What you're really hoping for is that Ukraine runs out of manpower so Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win. Putin will raise his "mission accomplished" banner over the ruins and hope that everyone forgets his invasion speech where he said the goal was to stop NATO from moving East. Ukraine ends up less Russian and Russia ends up more Muslim.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable. That has not happened for Gulf I and II or the Balkans so I am not holding my breath.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    Why would that require a Russian victory? Putin can de-escalate by going home.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    Why would a military use a 40 mile supply column as part of a feint?

    You believe that Putin sent his special forces on a suicide mission?

    The more likely scenario is that Putin underestimated the Ukrainians and didn't expect them to fight back. That better explains the attack and there is evidence in the form of occupation plans taken from captured soldiers.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable.

    So you would be less upset if the Ukrainians only fought back with the weapons that they had in 2022? Which would still mean over 100k deaths, correct?

    Replies: @QCIC

  766. Just some wishlist from Germany or info based on leaks having something to do with reality?

    “Secret Russian-Ukrainian talks are underway. And secrecy is the key to success. The Russians and Ukrainians have already reached diplomatic agreements in many areas. And experienced politicians who call for diplomacy instead of weapons know this, too. For example, there is track two diplomacy, which consists of informal dialogues between secondary actors, and it is designed to test what is possible. What is Ukraine willing to accept? Can the future of Crimea be put on hold for a while? In what areas will Russia agree to make concessions? The question is no longer whether negotiations will take place. The question is when and how.”

    https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-10/krieg-ukraine-diplomatie-verhandlungen-russland-5vor8

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @sudden death

    Future of Crimea LOL. That finality is carved in stone. This is like a chatbot hallucination.

    Replies: @QCIC

  767. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    You positively prop your roommate for hanging out at an MLK demo,
     
    MLK's speech is considered to be one of the most important speeches made in the US during the 20th century. At the time it was made, most critical thinkers would weigh in and admit that Black Americans were mistreated and deserved a better deal while living in and working in America. The fact that the civil rights movement went off the rails and morphed into the cynical and unsustainable woke ideology of today is unfortunate and another story.

    Among the most quoted lines of the speech are "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"[31]
     
    Do you find anything at all reprehensible about these sentiments that are the pillar of this speech?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    What’s convoluted is what you very selectively cherry pick, along the lines of how some spun Trump as favoring to shoot Liz Cheney.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    What exactly did I "cherry pick" that causes you to liken my thoughts to any Trump/Cheney controversy?

  768. Zelensky ‘looked worn and stressed’ in meeting with Americans – NYT
    https://www.rt.com/russia/606928-zelensky-worn-and-stressed/

    US officials reportedly no longer view the Russia-Ukraine conflict as a stalemate

    The sense of pessimism is growing in Kiev as Ukrainians anxiously await the outcome of the nearing US presidential election and are dealing with low morale and weapons shortages, the New York Times reported on Friday. It said that US military and intelligence officials believe that the conflict is “no longer a stalemate,” given Russia’s streak of successes on the battlefield.

    Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky “looked worn and stressed, anxious about his troops’ battlefield setbacks as well as the US elections,” when he met with American officials in Kiev last week, the Times said. Ukrainian troops are forced to deal with low morale, the lack of reinforcements, and the inability to outgun the Russian forces.

    The Times cited an unnamed Ukrainian major stationed at the border near Russia’s Kursk Region as saying that the Ukrainians are “constantly losing previously occupied positions,” while Moscow’s forces have an advantage in men and artillery.

    According to the Times, US officials believe, however, the Ukrainians would have a chance to exploit “Russia’s weaknesses” if the aid from Washington “remains strong until next summer.”

    The Russian troops have been steadily gaining ground in recent months, having captured the heavily fortified mining town of Ugledar in the Donbass early last month. Moscow has also launched an offensive aimed at pushing Ukrainian army units from the Kursk Region, which was invaded in August.

    Zelensky has appeared increasingly worried over the course of the conflict, admitting earlier this year that Kiev effectively became “a hostage” of the highly unpredictable US election. He urged Kiev’s foreign backed in July to redouble their efforts and help to end the conflict “as soon as possible.”

    The BBC reported earlier this week that soldiers and ordinary Ukrainians were closely watching the presidential campaign in America, where Republican candidate Donald Trump, his running mate J.D. Vance and several prominent Republicans proposed conditioning aid to Ukraine or canceling it altogether.

    “We should never give money anymore without the hope of a payback, or without ‘strings’ attached. The United States of America should be ‘stupid’ no longer,” Trump wrote on Truth Social in February. He repeatedly described Zelensky as “the greatest salesman on Earth” and claimed that, if reelected, he would quickly resolve the conflict between Moscow and Kiev through diplomacy.

  769. @sudden death
    Just some wishlist from Germany or info based on leaks having something to do with reality?

    “Secret Russian-Ukrainian talks are underway. And secrecy is the key to success. The Russians and Ukrainians have already reached diplomatic agreements in many areas. And experienced politicians who call for diplomacy instead of weapons know this, too. For example, there is track two diplomacy, which consists of informal dialogues between secondary actors, and it is designed to test what is possible. What is Ukraine willing to accept? Can the future of Crimea be put on hold for a while? In what areas will Russia agree to make concessions? The question is no longer whether negotiations will take place. The question is when and how.”
     
    https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-10/krieg-ukraine-diplomatie-verhandlungen-russland-5vor8

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Future of Crimea LOL. That finality is carved in stone. This is like a chatbot hallucination.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Yes, but Crimea was a pivotal part of the shared Western and Ukie fantasy. Publicly letting it go will be a major step. The next step in their grieving process may be to accept that Russia will not give any serious concessions.

  770. https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/11/01/west-sees-red-over-failed-second-color-revolution-in-georgia/

    The West is threatening consequences for Georgia after its citizens voted for peaceful relations with Russia and traditional moral values.

    The United States and European Union are threatening consequences for Georgia after its citizens voted “the wrong way” – for peaceful relations with Russia and traditional moral values.

    Farcically, this is while the U.S. heads into presidential elections that are mired in chaos and recriminations over vote rigging and buying of votes by oligarchs and big businesses.

    Welcome to Western-style democracy where if you vote the way the powers-that-be want, it’s a fair election. If you vote the wrong way, it’s a rigged, flawed result that should be ignored or, worse, overturned.

    Such was the heated reaction from Western states to the electoral victory of the ruling Georgian Dream (GD) party last weekend in the South Caucasus nation. The party campaigned on a strong, clear platform for pursuing peaceful neighborly relations with Russia.

    GD also declared support for traditional social and moral values, rejecting the Western pseudo-liberal agenda of promoting gender-bender LGBTQ+ identities, which was espoused by the Western-backed Georgian opposition parties.

    At the end of the day, Georgian Dream won a stunning victory, taking nearly 54 percent of the vote, translating into obtaining 90 out of a total of 150 parliamentary seats. Four opposition parties, which touted closer integration ties with NATO and the EU and acclaiming LGBTQ+ rights, won less than 38 percent of the vote.

    The Georgian people are to be commended for asserting their democratic rights in the face of massive Western interference in the election. Western money and NGOs amplified the opposition parties. If they had won, the new pro-Western administration would have turned Georgia into a second war front against Russia in conjunction with the NATO-backed Ukrainian regime. Georgian and Ukraine have been at the center of the Western policy of expanding NATO around Russia’s borders. Both countries were declared future members of the military bloc as far back as 2008, although NATO membership is a red line for Russia.

    Fortunately, Georgian voters were aware of the geopolitical stakes and rallied to the cause of prioritizing peaceful regional relations and rejecting the notional security privileges of NATO.

    Western recriminations were fast and furious after the result. Western media reported that “Western pollsters” claimed that there were voting irregularities. What were Western pollsters doing in Georgia in the first place? Such entities sound more like a plant to stir post-election trouble.

    As it turns out, there were indeed incidents of vote buying, ballot stuffing, and intimidation at polling stations. But videos showed that the incidents were agitprops organized by the Western-sponsored opposition parties.

    However, thankfully, such malfeasance was relatively minor and did not invalidate the overall final result. Georgia’s Central Election Committee declared the process to be free and fair. The authorized election invigilating body has given its verdict, and that should be the end of it.

    Disgracefully, the defeated opposition parties, who behave more like fifth columnists than patriotic representatives, have refused to recognize the result as legitimate. Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili demeaned her constitutionally designated office of political neutrality by accusing Georgian Dream of “stealing the election.” She was afforded a prominent interview on CNN to peddle her treasonous slander that Russia interfered in the election to hamper the opposition.

    Moscow vehemently repudiated accusations of interference. It pointed instead to the abundant evidence that Western states had vigorously tried to enhance the vote for opposition parties touting a common agenda.

    At this early post-election stage, it is not clear if the opposition parties will persist in threats to hold street protests denouncing the new legislature. Certainly, one can well imagine that Western powers and entities will only be too glad to assist and amplify such civic disturbances – if they are not already inciting them.

    Georgian Dream leader Irakli Kobakhidze applauded citizens for voting for a peaceful future. He indicated confidence that the opposition protests will fade into futility because, he said, they do command the support of citizens.

    History shows that such confidence might be misplaced, or, at least, should not be complacent.

    There is an ominous echo of the U.S.-led coups in Georgia during the 2003 Rose Revolution and the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine in 2014.

    Georgia was one of the first in a series of so-called color revolutions that occurred in the post-Soviet regions. The fingerprints of the CIA, USAID, Soros Foundation, and other Western imperialist agencies are all over these movements. There is no doubt they were orchestrated with the help of Western media to foment regimes hostile towards Russia with the ultimate objective of destabilizing Russia itself.

    The color revolutions have been a disaster for targeted countries. The Georgian Rose Revolution led to the despotic, corrupt regime of Mikhail Saakashvili who is currently in jail for abuse of power.

    In Ukraine, the Orange Revolution in 2004-2005 led to the Maidan movement of 2014 that culminated in a NeoNazi regime, which destroyed that country in a proxy war with Russia at the behest of its NATO masters. It is estimated that 600,000-700,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in nearly three years of conflict. Millions of Ukrainian citizens have been displaced or fled their country. The nation has huge debts to Western capital, and its natural resources are owned by Wall Street.

    As for Georgia, it has escaped the same fate – so far. The truth is that Georgia was subjected to a second color revolution in the run-up to this latest election. To be clear, a second color revolution is not on the way in Georgia; it is already underway. The question is: can the Georgian nation of four million defeat it definitively?

    The United States and European Union are huffing and puffing about the latest Georgian election, hinting that they will not recognize the new government and that there will be “consequences.” The fact is the Western despotic powers were threatening consequences in the weeks before the vote on October 26. Georgians took courage and refused to be intimidated by Western threats or bribes. Such courage bodes well for their future independence and development. But vigilance is the watchword.

  771. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    If Russia took Ukraine the way you suggest they would have an ungovernable mess on their hands, not to mention millions of civilian deaths which they do not want.

    I'm not saying it was ever a good idea. I am saying their original military goals were achievable.

    Instead, they are grinding down the Ukie ability to fight until the sensible people in Kiev figure out what’s up.

    So failing to take Kiev was all part of a 5d chess plan?

    Not sure if killing the relatives of citizens is an appeal to their sensibility.

    What you're really hoping for is that Ukraine runs out of manpower so Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win. Putin will raise his "mission accomplished" banner over the ruins and hope that everyone forgets his invasion speech where he said the goal was to stop NATO from moving East. Ukraine ends up less Russian and Russia ends up more Muslim.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win….where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.

    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine – and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan. If that holds it will be a huge geopolitical win for Russia (and don’t bore us again with “Finland!” – the Finns were de facto in NATO for decades.)

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas – 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated – losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine and Kiev comprador-oligarchs sold out their people for a few villas in Spain and Florida. Both were abnormal behaviors – unfortunately the price will be paid by the regular Ukies.

    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.
     
    No statues for Zelensky yet? Ukrainians are already thinking ahead and planning to commemorate their new fuehrer:

    Here's a prototype model already circulating in Brussels:

    https://api.brusselstimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/58fe5b8d-belgaimage-60719035-1-1024x683.jpg

    Here's one already standing somewhere in Kyiv:
    https://i.dawn.com/primary/2022/05/6276ec1daf99c.jpg

    I kinda like the second one a little bit better. How about you? :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win….where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.
     
    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine – and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan.

    NATO is a defensive organization and there is no plan to add Georgia or Belarus. It's not a hierarchy where someone at the top rubs his hands together and schemes. There is however evidence that Russia wants to forcefully annex Belarus:
    https://www.dw.com/en/russia-plans-belarus-absorption-by-2030-media-reports/a-64771429

    Let's see some evidence of NATO wanting Belarus or we will just write this off as your imagination at work.

    Putin described a threat of proximity with NATO in his invasion speech. He spoke of a geographic threat and NATO has since expanded Eastward through Finland.

    Here it is from Putin himself:
    I am referring to the expansion of the NATO to the east, moving its military infrastructure closer to Russian borders.

    Well NATO borders are now closer to Russia. That goal has failed.

    We also know through polls that the Finns changed their mind on NATO after the invasion. Which means his war has had the exact opposite outcome.

    Way to go dwarf. I guess he should have declared Finland to be historic Russia and told the world that he had no choice but to invade.

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas – 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated – losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    Ukraine is not largely destroyed. It's the Eastern cities and villages (mostly Russian speaking) that stand in rubble. I don't see how destroying Russian speaking villages will weaken the EU. Russia will exit this war with fewer Slavs, more Muslims and less infrastructure. The amount of damage done to Russian oil refineries is already over 50 billion.

    It's a stupid war and clearly not going as planned as seen by the fact that Russia needs North Korean soldiers to remove Ukraine from Kursk.

    Larry C Bootlicker got that completely wrong in another thread and his hordes were upset with me for not believing his claim that it was a CIA hoax. MOA got it wrong as well. I guess the US Putin fans really believed that Putin had millions of men and was about to crush Ukraine at any minute.....again.

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine

    Then why didn't they do that after 2014? How were they able to add Finland so easily?

    Replies: @Beckow

  772. When was the last time Dems won something in Iowa?

  773. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    What's convoluted is what you very selectively cherry pick, along the lines of how some spun Trump as favoring to shoot Liz Cheney.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiZHTs78Ck

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What exactly did I “cherry pick” that causes you to liken my thoughts to any Trump/Cheney controversy?

    • Troll: Mikhail
  774. Allowing for Sturgeon’s Law, I am a fan of all these animal memes. From Harambee, to the red squirrels in the UK and Ireland making a comeback, to cat-eating Haitians, to this latest squirrel “murdered” by NY officials.

    I don’t know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.

    [MORE]

    https://hexbear.net/post/3811862

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I the white colored squirrel in the photo a type of speicies, or is it perhaps an "albino" greysquirrel?

    As kids in the old neighborhood we would watch an "albino" one with the utmost of curiosity.

    https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/albino-squirrel-nature-portrait-exotic-white-rare-animal-forest-branch_305419-3907.jpg
    The squirrel within this photo is identified as being "albino". A good looking creature.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @A123
    @songbird


    I don’t know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.
     
     
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Avenge-Peanut.jpeg

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbZJ2Y8akAA-MU0.jpg

    Going after a pet is insane. There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.

    The woman who made the accusations has been doxxed. So, there is no reason to keep the complaint a secret to protect her name. It should be obvious if there was any reason. Or, she filed a false claim to intentionally create a problem.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  775. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win....where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.
     
    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine - and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan. If that holds it will be a huge geopolitical win for Russia (and don't bore us again with "Finland!" - the Finns were de facto in NATO for decades.)

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas - 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated - losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine and Kiev comprador-oligarchs sold out their people for a few villas in Spain and Florida. Both were abnormal behaviors - unfortunately the price will be paid by the regular Ukies.

    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.

    No statues for Zelensky yet? Ukrainians are already thinking ahead and planning to commemorate their new fuehrer:

    Here’s a prototype model already circulating in Brussels:

    Here’s one already standing somewhere in Kyiv:

    I kinda like the second one a little bit better. How about you? 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, my art taste is insufficient to comprehend the 'things' you posted. But it doesn't look like something that will stick around - it lacks good taste. But how about those Zelko's statues? Any in Ukraine yet?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  776. @songbird
    Allowing for Sturgeon's Law, I am a fan of all these animal memes. From Harambee, to the red squirrels in the UK and Ireland making a comeback, to cat-eating Haitians, to this latest squirrel "murdered" by NY officials.

    I don't know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.


    https://twitter.com/flapprdotnet/status/1852743992049336801

    https://twitter.com/yumcarton/status/1852761743971246306

    https://hexbear.net/post/3811862

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    I the white colored squirrel in the photo a type of speicies, or is it perhaps an “albino” greysquirrel?

    As kids in the old neighborhood we would watch an “albino” one with the utmost of curiosity.


    The squirrel within this photo is identified as being “albino”. A good looking creature.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Assume a grey. True albinism (red eyes) is supposed to be rare among squirrels as it impairs vision when branch-jumping. But some have white coats.

    I know a couple with an albino child. It is surprising to me, as I believe they get their ancestry from two separate European countries, and IIRC albinos require two copies of the exact same allele, in order to be albinos. It can't be two different albino alleles.

    Here is an interesting discussion on white-colored squirrels:
    https://whitesquirrelinstitute.org/white-squirrel-research-institute/what-is-a-white-squirrel

  777. Perhaps, it is because I don’t know the history, but I have always been puzzled why Sasha Baron Cohen seems to have it in for Central Asian Muslims.

    Thought there were internal passports in the USSR
    Did Cohen’s folks really interact much with them?

    [MORE]

  778. @songbird
    Allowing for Sturgeon's Law, I am a fan of all these animal memes. From Harambee, to the red squirrels in the UK and Ireland making a comeback, to cat-eating Haitians, to this latest squirrel "murdered" by NY officials.

    I don't know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.


    https://twitter.com/flapprdotnet/status/1852743992049336801

    https://twitter.com/yumcarton/status/1852761743971246306

    https://hexbear.net/post/3811862

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    I don’t know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.

     

     

    Going after a pet is insane. There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.

    The woman who made the accusations has been doxxed. So, there is no reason to keep the complaint a secret to protect her name. It should be obvious if there was any reason. Or, she filed a false claim to intentionally create a problem.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.
     
    Lol. And I don't think there has ever been a known case of rodents infecting a person with rabies. Crazy to think it happened in rural NY.

    These officials that will go into someone's home over such accusations are generally psychopaths, IMO. The worst sort of petty bureaucrats.

    If they were really serious about public health, they would police the border. And if they were really serious about zoonotic diseases, they would crack down on supergays after monkey pox. And not go after some guy married to a woman.

    Replies: @QCIC

  779. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I the white colored squirrel in the photo a type of speicies, or is it perhaps an "albino" greysquirrel?

    As kids in the old neighborhood we would watch an "albino" one with the utmost of curiosity.

    https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/albino-squirrel-nature-portrait-exotic-white-rare-animal-forest-branch_305419-3907.jpg
    The squirrel within this photo is identified as being "albino". A good looking creature.

    Replies: @songbird

    Assume a grey. True albinism (red eyes) is supposed to be rare among squirrels as it impairs vision when branch-jumping. But some have white coats.

    I know a couple with an albino child. It is surprising to me, as I believe they get their ancestry from two separate European countries, and IIRC albinos require two copies of the exact same allele, in order to be albinos. It can’t be two different albino alleles.

    Here is an interesting discussion on white-colored squirrels:
    https://whitesquirrelinstitute.org/white-squirrel-research-institute/what-is-a-white-squirrel

  780. @songbird
    @Coconuts


    I wonder if the West African Frontier Force had a marching song?

     

    Lol. Can't figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly's father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.https://twitter.com/JamesCleverly/status/1852678686564106417

    It is kind of funny. There seem to be shitlibs on twitter calling Badendoch "far-right". Apparently, for some rather weak comments she made against Muslim terrorists. Perhaps, there is some small positive side to her antagonism against the Hausa.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Lol. Can’t figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly’s father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.

    It’s possible his father is mixed race, at the same time I was wondering if his father and any uncles and aunts are white but raised in Africa somewhere. If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?

    [MORE]

    He is one of the slower Tory BAME leaders, the responses on that tweet thread are quite impressive.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut, I heard about an Afro-Caribbean origin Labour MP tweeting that she represents black face/white privilege, there will be more of that.

    Imo real accelerationism would get started if the Tories weren’t appointing the more capable ethnic minorities into leadership roles, some of the Labour BAME contingent are a lot worse, Lammy may be one of the better ones.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts


    If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?
     
    I was thinking he and his cousin looked a bit lighter than most people from Sierra Leone. (Could maybe be living in UK? )

    Also, a bit mysterious why he doesn't seem to play the diversity card from his father's side too. (Father walked out on them maybe?). It would fit into American patterns, if they were seeking the blacks with more Euro blood, for his father to have been a mulatto.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut
     
    That is funny. I vaguely thought that was a term South Asians used (Razib Khan has the emoji on his x handle). In America, I have heard the term oreo used once.

    Lammy may be one of the better ones.
     
    It is so weird to think Lammy is promoting reparations and Guyanese. Very thinly populated country, rich in hydrocarbons. Per capita reserves, like one of those small Arab oil states or even better.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  781. @A123
    @songbird


    I don’t know if it is pastoralist genes, or hunter genes, or none of the above. But I do think that people really engage with these memes.
     
     
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Avenge-Peanut.jpeg

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbZJ2Y8akAA-MU0.jpg

    Going after a pet is insane. There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.

    The woman who made the accusations has been doxxed. So, there is no reason to keep the complaint a secret to protect her name. It should be obvious if there was any reason. Or, she filed a false claim to intentionally create a problem.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.

    Lol. And I don’t think there has ever been a known case of rodents infecting a person with rabies. Crazy to think it happened in rural NY.

    These officials that will go into someone’s home over such accusations are generally psychopaths, IMO. The worst sort of petty bureaucrats.

    If they were really serious about public health, they would police the border. And if they were really serious about zoonotic diseases, they would crack down on supergays after monkey pox. And not go after some guy married to a woman.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    I think you need a better word than supergay. Maybe slutgay, orgyfag, or something like that.

    Orgyfag and monkey pox seem to work together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlbWiTo_wQ

    Replies: @songbird

  782. @emil nikola richard
    @sudden death

    Future of Crimea LOL. That finality is carved in stone. This is like a chatbot hallucination.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Yes, but Crimea was a pivotal part of the shared Western and Ukie fantasy. Publicly letting it go will be a major step. The next step in their grieving process may be to accept that Russia will not give any serious concessions.

  783. @songbird
    @A123


    There are very few opportunities for indoor animals to catch rabies.
     
    Lol. And I don't think there has ever been a known case of rodents infecting a person with rabies. Crazy to think it happened in rural NY.

    These officials that will go into someone's home over such accusations are generally psychopaths, IMO. The worst sort of petty bureaucrats.

    If they were really serious about public health, they would police the border. And if they were really serious about zoonotic diseases, they would crack down on supergays after monkey pox. And not go after some guy married to a woman.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think you need a better word than supergay. Maybe slutgay, orgyfag, or something like that.

    Orgyfag and monkey pox seem to work together.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    I think you need a better word than supergay.
     
    it is imperfect because it uses their terminology. But I like it because it is less visual-sounding. (Problem with word sodomite) Probably more saleable.

    Bashi went off on me once for using the word "fag" or "faggot" or something.
  784. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable. That has not happened for Gulf I and II or the Balkans so I am not holding my breath.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    Why would that require a Russian victory? Putin can de-escalate by going home.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    Why would a military use a 40 mile supply column as part of a feint?

    You believe that Putin sent his special forces on a suicide mission?

    The more likely scenario is that Putin underestimated the Ukrainians and didn’t expect them to fight back. That better explains the attack and there is evidence in the form of occupation plans taken from captured soldiers.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable.

    So you would be less upset if the Ukrainians only fought back with the weapons that they had in 2022? Which would still mean over 100k deaths, correct?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The West set this Ukraine-Russia conflict in motion by playing on some pre-existing grievances and disagreements between the two closely related Slavic countries. If Russia capitulates or loses I expect the West to push harder in ways which make WW3 more likely, not less. On the other hand, if Russia achieves certain military and political goals the West will hopefully move on to some other project and the painful healing and reconciliation in Ukraine can begin. This will be a good time to hold people like Nuland, Blinken and others accountable for their treasonous crimes.

    The large column of armored vehicles, combined with serious losses of high value troops and assets all mixed with strange stories seems constituent with a properly executed feint at Kiev. If the commitment of forces is too weak it looks like a feint instead of a real attack. Lives are lost either way. If it works those losses may be acceptable. If it doesn't, the evaluation depends on what other options were available.

    I suspect two early Russian high priority goals were protection of Crimea and the nuclear power plant. A strong feint on Kiev seems to foster these goals, but I imagine there were even more important things going on which I have not heard about. The US funded bioweapons labs are one possibility.

    I would be less upset if Ukraine had not allowed itself to be manipulated into a pointless bloody war. Unfortunately, we can see from a decade of rabid posting by AP, Hack and LatW how strong feelings can be channeled to start wars. None of this means that I favor Russia or approve of the organized crime-government syndicates in Russia, Ukraine or the West. This combat in Ukraine would not have happened if the West had not been planning a sanctions trap to break the Russian system.

  785. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win....where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.
     
    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine - and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan. If that holds it will be a huge geopolitical win for Russia (and don't bore us again with "Finland!" - the Finns were de facto in NATO for decades.)

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas - 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated - losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine and Kiev comprador-oligarchs sold out their people for a few villas in Spain and Florida. Both were abnormal behaviors - unfortunately the price will be paid by the regular Ukies.

    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win….where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.

    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine – and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan.

    NATO is a defensive organization and there is no plan to add Georgia or Belarus. It’s not a hierarchy where someone at the top rubs his hands together and schemes. There is however evidence that Russia wants to forcefully annex Belarus:
    https://www.dw.com/en/russia-plans-belarus-absorption-by-2030-media-reports/a-64771429

    Let’s see some evidence of NATO wanting Belarus or we will just write this off as your imagination at work.

    Putin described a threat of proximity with NATO in his invasion speech. He spoke of a geographic threat and NATO has since expanded Eastward through Finland.

    Here it is from Putin himself:
    I am referring to the expansion of the NATO to the east, moving its military infrastructure closer to Russian borders.

    Well NATO borders are now closer to Russia. That goal has failed.

    We also know through polls that the Finns changed their mind on NATO after the invasion. Which means his war has had the exact opposite outcome.

    Way to go dwarf. I guess he should have declared Finland to be historic Russia and told the world that he had no choice but to invade.

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas – 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated – losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    Ukraine is not largely destroyed. It’s the Eastern cities and villages (mostly Russian speaking) that stand in rubble. I don’t see how destroying Russian speaking villages will weaken the EU. Russia will exit this war with fewer Slavs, more Muslims and less infrastructure. The amount of damage done to Russian oil refineries is already over 50 billion.

    It’s a stupid war and clearly not going as planned as seen by the fact that Russia needs North Korean soldiers to remove Ukraine from Kursk.

    Larry C Bootlicker got that completely wrong in another thread and his hordes were upset with me for not believing his claim that it was a CIA hoax. MOA got it wrong as well. I guess the US Putin fans really believed that Putin had millions of men and was about to crush Ukraine at any minute…..again.

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine

    Then why didn’t they do that after 2014? How were they able to add Finland so easily?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.


    Ukraine is not largely destroyed.
     
    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million...and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be? The 10 million left from the west, center and the east - and most are not coming back. Ukraine will be a lot smaller if it manages to exist at all, its economy will be a fraction of what it could have been.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies - the went from a strong, resource-rich 50 million people country with good relations with all its neighbors in 1991 to maybe half-that in a war they can't win and with very painful future. But keep your head in the sand, what else can you do?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  786. OK this is clever.

    I forgot there was one not worthless tidbit in the half of the Rogan Vance transcript I read. Vance reports that when he got his first experimental genetic medicine booster shot he was subsequently the sickest he had ever been in his life and he didn’t take any more boosters after that.

  787. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Lol. Can’t figure out the ethnicity of James Cleverly’s father. He says his father came from Wiltshire, but he has a black Cleverly cousin. But his mother did come from Sierra Leone.
     
    It's possible his father is mixed race, at the same time I was wondering if his father and any uncles and aunts are white but raised in Africa somewhere. If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?

    He is one of the slower Tory BAME leaders, the responses on that tweet thread are quite impressive.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut, I heard about an Afro-Caribbean origin Labour MP tweeting that she represents black face/white privilege, there will be more of that.

    Imo real accelerationism would get started if the Tories weren't appointing the more capable ethnic minorities into leadership roles, some of the Labour BAME contingent are a lot worse, Lammy may be one of the better ones.

    Replies: @songbird

    If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?

    I was thinking he and his cousin looked a bit lighter than most people from Sierra Leone. (Could maybe be living in UK? )

    Also, a bit mysterious why he doesn’t seem to play the diversity card from his father’s side too. (Father walked out on them maybe?). It would fit into American patterns, if they were seeking the blacks with more Euro blood, for his father to have been a mulatto.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut

    That is funny. I vaguely thought that was a term South Asians used (Razib Khan has the emoji on his x handle). In America, I have heard the term oreo used once.

    Lammy may be one of the better ones.

    It is so weird to think Lammy is promoting reparations and Guyanese. Very thinly populated country, rich in hydrocarbons. Per capita reserves, like one of those small Arab oil states or even better.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    I was thinking he and his cousin looked a bit lighter than most people from Sierra Leone. (Could maybe be living in UK? )
     
    Yes, I was thinking that maybe his dad and grandparents are white, just raised in Africa somewhere, and more than one of them ended up marrying someone black. It might be why it isn't mentioned, some of the colonial/expat legacy stuff, where they both marry natives, may not fit well with the current diversity narratives.

    They may have married into the Sierra Leone elite or similar. You can find that with some prominent mixed race personalities (e.g. David Olusoga), his dad was a Nigerian prince of some kind who had enough money or education to study in Britain in the 50s and 60s, so one of a small elite.



    This can be a hidden way of trolling the progressives, when the blacks elevated into positions of power are likely to be descendants of slave-trading African nobility, and those chiefs and princes who allied with the British elite during colonial times.

    It would fit into American patterns, if they were seeking the blacks with more Euro blood, for his father to have been a mulatto.
     
    This must be the other possibility, that his grandad married a black or mulatto and his dad and any uncles/aunts are light mulattoes themselves.

    In America, I have heard the term oreo used once.
     
    I've heard it as well. Our term coconut has been used for a long time, it can be applied to blacks or South Asians, I would guess because this issue of both blacks and South Asians acting as British allies against locals (especially Marxist inspired nationalists) is an older one.

    It is so weird to think Lammy is promoting reparations and Guyanese. Very thinly populated country, rich in hydrocarbons. Per capita reserves, like one of those small Arab oil states or even better.
     
    I didn't know that about Guyana. Reparations is interesting, I think the Tories know they can troll Labour over things like this if Badenoch is the leader, even though she will not really inspire their voters and it makes the immigration issue more visible. But this still ends up less divisive overall than letting the spotlight fall too long on Lammy and some of the other BAME Labour MPs.
  788. @QCIC
    @songbird

    I think you need a better word than supergay. Maybe slutgay, orgyfag, or something like that.

    Orgyfag and monkey pox seem to work together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlbWiTo_wQ

    Replies: @songbird

    I think you need a better word than supergay.

    it is imperfect because it uses their terminology. But I like it because it is less visual-sounding. (Problem with word sodomite) Probably more saleable.

    Bashi went off on me once for using the word “fag” or “faggot” or something.

  789. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    It depends on degree.
     
    No, it doesn't. It depends entirely on one's moral compass. Aborting 2,500 babies is not more justified than aborting 75,000 babies. Killing 2,500 innocent people so that a country can keep its territorial integrity is no more justified than killing 75,000 innocent people for the same reason.

    About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force
     
    I used to have this sort of discussions with Basque supporters of political violence decades ago and I never came across anyone who would speak of such levels of bloodshed so nonchalantly. If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state, I would at least hesitate to answer.

    The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine.
     
    LOL. Sure, if only the Ukrainians had received the ATACMS a little earlier, they would have reached their 1991 borders.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders
     
    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she's better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.

    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.
     
    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies. Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn't make it had to return home. Nobody is returning home now in a million years. The very few immigrants that return home from the US today are successful people from other 1st World countries: the ones that the US should rather keep the most.

    you don’t feel that because you are not an American
     
    But didn't you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger's opinions on US politics?

    And do you remind your wife that she is not an American and she cannot "feel" Americanness? Is John Derbyshire an American for you? And Alexander Vindmann? Were Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger American enough for you?

    your background has advantages also
     
    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don't have anything to compare it to so it's easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it's much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland. That's why I'm voting the way I am.

    Kamala is not going to change the beauty of the American West for me but she will change the US in other important ways. If you park your car at the trailhead of the Truchas Peak, close to Española, NM, you run a serious risk that someone will vandalize it, exact same problem I used to have mountaineering in Chile. In Utah and its immediate surroundings you don't even have to think about something like that.

    Replies: @AP, @anon

    It depends on degree.

    No, it doesn’t.

    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    It depends entirely on one’s moral compass.

    In my moral compass killing 40,000 is much worse than killing 2,600.

    Not only in terms of the numbers themselves, but to the fact that this extreme disparity points to other things, such as motive and goals.

    A war policy that results in 2,600 civilian deaths in a territory with 6 million people must in its essence be fundamentally different from a war policy that results in 40,000 civilian deaths in a territory of 1.2 million people. Putin killed about 15 times more Chechens in absolute terms and 75 times more Chechens in per capita terms when crushing the rebellion in Chechnya, than the Ukrainians did in Donbas. This obviously reflects the fact that Putin held much less regard for human life than did Kiev’s leaders.

    If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state,

    Are you suggesting that these people were some sort of a deliberate sacrifice?

    Did you know that civilians (and animals) die in any war, even if they are not deliberately targeted for death? That is why it is better not to start one, as the Russians did in Donbas in 2014.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders

    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she’s better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc. An American Hitler.* I didn’t know it because I wasn’t familiar with Vance, but Vance was saying the same thing about Trump around that time. I did blame Republican elites for neglecting the needs of those lower class white voters; they should have been more paternalistic and less greedy.

    I helpfully pointed out that Trump won the places where people die of prescription drug overdoses:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/saturday-elections-open-thread/#comment-1346761

    I had voted for Kasich in the Republican primary – a very competent technocrat who was architect of America’s balanced budget during the Clinton years (Clinton was forced to go along because the Republicans controlled congress).

    But I was very pleasantly surprised to see that the 2016-2020 Trump administration had competent managers and made a lot of good policy. Clearly better than Obama’s had been. So I voted for Trump in 2020. If Trump had the same team now that he did in 2020 I would have without hesitation voted for him this election.

    Unfortunately, most of Trump’s competent advisors are gone and have been replaced by a bunch of clowns like RFK Jr. Even worse, those who had made Trump’s prior administration a success are mostly advising voters not to vote for Trump.

    So I didn’t.

    So don’t imply that my voting for Kamala is some sort of recent opportunism driven solely by Ukraine policy.

    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.

    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music.

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn’t regard illiterate Irish as “quintessentially European” lol (should I post their cartoons?) and illiterate Sicilian peasants of the 19th century had as much in common with the Renaissance as Mexicans. There are plenty of baroque cathedrals in Mexico, and Mexico was producing its own baroque music.

    Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn’t make it had to return home.

    These are negative factors, though illegals don’t have the same access to welfare, at least in some states. This may contribute to them being such hard workers.

    And they do assimilate. They and their descendants become English-speaking, and many even vote Republican. Especially in places where white people vote Republican, such as Texas or Florida. Not to the same degree as white people, but moving in that direction. But not in California, where White people vote Democrat too.

    American Latinos tend to assimilate to America’s working class.

    By the way, Steve Sailer has shown that the turning point against the GOP in California was not because of Mexicans but because Washington shut down a lot of the defense industry. You, too, don’t like the defense industry very much. Helping Ukraine benefits it, of course.

    you don’t feel that because you are not an American

    But didn’t you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger’s opinions on US politics

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.

    You shopped around various countries before eventually coming here from Latin America.

    your background has advantages also

    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don’t have anything to compare it to so it’s easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it’s much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland.

    Indeed. As a rootless wanderer and outsider, you can examine different places like a consumer examines brands of cars, dispassionately assessing strengths and weaknesses (for you). Novelty and lack of tradition don’t mean much to do, because you can’t feel them – it isn’t your country, and you rejected your own traditions anyways (you are neither religious nor did you transmit your language to your children). It’s a powerful position to be in, there are advantages to it of course.

    Meanwhile, an American such as myself is simply disturbed by the very untraditional un-American politics of Trump, a cry for help and a cry of rage of the lower less successful segments of American society that looks like something from South of the Border rather than what America should have.

    *Which, as I pointed out, was not like the German one in the most infamous aspects.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

     

    Agreed, but by that logic, didn't Austria-Hungary make a huge mistake in not going to war against Serbia back in 1905 when Russia was busy fighting against Japan and dealing with revolution back at home? Back then, Russia would have very likely not been willing or capable of going to war against Austria-Hungary over Serbia, unlike in 1914.

    Similarly, didn't Russia, from a Russian nationalist perspective, make a huge mistake in waiting until 2022 in order to try conquering Ukraine instead of trying to do this back in 2014?
    , @Mikel
    @AP


    A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.
     
    For the umpteenth time but likely not the last, if Unz inexplicably keeps this blog alive:

    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I'm not talking about the amount of suffering, I'm talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.

    c) From a moral perspective it's not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one's moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house, you may not kill anyone when you shoot at the room where the robber is with your wife but in any civilized society you'd be locked up for that action. There might be some US district with too much frontier spirit left where you wouldn't but it doesn't change anything. If there is anything like a Final Judgement or a Karma, not just those who consciously bombed civilian areas knowing that they were killing innocent people will have to respond. Those who supported the killers will too. People like Putin and Poroshenko don't exist in a moral vacuum.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.
     
    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions or, indeed, not only how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she'll be better for Ukraine but also how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US on the same pro-Ukraine policy grounds.

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn’t regard illiterate Irish as “quintessentially European” lol
     
    But they are. It doesn't matter what ignorant people from the 19th century, Anglo or not, thought. Being on the westernmost fringe of Europe, they have less non-European ancestry than basically anyone else and and, in fact, a more similar genetic admixture to the Anglos than anyone else too.

    should I post their cartoons?
     
    You can post whatever you please but if I were you, I wouldn't. There's no shortage of cartoons mocking Ukrainians, often in pretty bad taste, and they're not from times of mass illiteracy everywhere, but from today.

    The Irish didn't have to beg to be admitted into the EU (Common Market then). They were admitted on their own merits and then went on to improve their living standards like no other European country has done in such a short time. These days there is more Germans and Scandinavians migrating to Ireland for the good job opportunities than the other way around. What's even more remarkable is that the Irish did this pretty much in spite of the EU, not because of it. Their low corporate tax, business-friendly policies were a native initiative supported by the electorate and often opposed by Brussels.

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.
     
    I first visited the US at age 17 and I had also concluded that it was the most fascinating country in the world much earlier than that. But I didn't have Arnold's muscles (it wasn't his brain or even his acting skills what brought him here) and never thought of emigrating illegally so I had to wait a very long time. Arnold didn't exactly invent the wheel when he figured out that the country of Hollywood, rock-n-roll music and the magnificent landscapes of the movies everyone watched since childhood was the coolest place to live in. Several billion had already come up with the same idea.

    It wasn't by any means a coincidence that in my 20s I decided to move to Argentina-Chile. Very similar latitudes, climates and landscapes. At the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th for many Europeans it was not too obvious if the US-Canada or Argentina offered better prospects. Millions tried their luck in the Southern Cone.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue, as fellow Californian David Cole has often explained:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-trumpbart-primary/



    What’s more interesting to me is that occasionally an epochal villain doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

    Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. This vile, corrupt, nanny-diddling piece of Eurotrash single-handedly killed red California, the 1990s California that passed the most restrictive anti-illegal-immigration state-level law in history, banned affirmative action, defeated a “Green New Deal,” mandated English-only in classrooms, passed the most hard-assed Three Strikes law ever, and strengthened the death penalty via three different ballot initiatives that specifically increased penalties for the most beloved crimes of our black population (carjacking, cop-killing, and drive-bys).

    Then, in 2003, here came Schwarzy, hijacking a recall effort in which he was not supposed to be the GOP candidate.

    And he ran as the standard-bearer of 1990s red California.

    His platform? Immigration! In between those incomprehensible guttural sounds of his, the message was clear: “Close the border glauuuurgh…deportations day one ghelhaurrrgh!”

    He won in a landslide. And once in office, he quickly forgot about immigration and devoted his time to partnering with leftists to pardon/commute “criminals of color.” This verminous monster was so arrogant about not caring about policy, he openly admitted it: “My strength was not policy in 2003. My strength was personality, was…me. When it got into the [policy] details, I rather used comedy, used humor.” Like when he suggested that fellow recall candidate Arianna Huffington’s head should be “put in a toilet.”

    This prick, who ran—and won—on immigration, has such a bloated ego that he needed, and still needs, to tell himself he won not on policy, but on zingers.

    Hence why he could completely abandon his immigration agenda. Hence why he ended his tenure betraying his base on immigration and crime because his “strength isn’t policy but personality.”

    Sound familiar? This is why my 2016 columns about Trump were skeptical. I’d seen this script play out before.

    Schwarzenegger was epochal because he took the hopes and dreams of red California and betrayed them while at the same time enabling continued demographic shift via immigration, and anarcho-tyranny via the dismantling of law and order, so that here we are now, California 2023, and the numbers simply don’t exist anymore for a genuinely rightist GOP to win the governorship, in part because of immigration, and in part because 1990s red Californians have fled to escape crime, homeless street-shitters, and high taxes.

    Schwarzenegger’s Nazi dad failed to take Leningrad. How proud he’d be that his son single-handedly took down the most populous state in the U.S.

    And he did more than that. Schwarzenegger’s “zingers” are the reason Arianna Huffington founded the Huffington Post (yes, she credits the abuse she took from Schwarzenegger for prompting her to move left and launch her site). So those zingers inadvertently ushered in the age of shit internet journalism.


    Replies: @AP

  790. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I want this conflict to wrap up without nuclear warfare or WW3. I think this requires a Russian victory, but the details are unknown.

    Why would that require a Russian victory? Putin can de-escalate by going home.

    There was no hope of taking Kiev with the force the Russians applied. This raises several possibilities but it still looks more like a feint than an amateur-grade error.

    Why would a military use a 40 mile supply column as part of a feint?

    You believe that Putin sent his special forces on a suicide mission?

    The more likely scenario is that Putin underestimated the Ukrainians and didn't expect them to fight back. That better explains the attack and there is evidence in the form of occupation plans taken from captured soldiers.

    I wish the USA was not directly involved in instigating this conflict which has led to a million deaths and ten million displaced Ukrainians. I hope the ringleaders in the USA will eventually be held accountable.

    So you would be less upset if the Ukrainians only fought back with the weapons that they had in 2022? Which would still mean over 100k deaths, correct?

    Replies: @QCIC

    The West set this Ukraine-Russia conflict in motion by playing on some pre-existing grievances and disagreements between the two closely related Slavic countries. If Russia capitulates or loses I expect the West to push harder in ways which make WW3 more likely, not less. On the other hand, if Russia achieves certain military and political goals the West will hopefully move on to some other project and the painful healing and reconciliation in Ukraine can begin. This will be a good time to hold people like Nuland, Blinken and others accountable for their treasonous crimes.

    The large column of armored vehicles, combined with serious losses of high value troops and assets all mixed with strange stories seems constituent with a properly executed feint at Kiev. If the commitment of forces is too weak it looks like a feint instead of a real attack. Lives are lost either way. If it works those losses may be acceptable. If it doesn’t, the evaluation depends on what other options were available.

    I suspect two early Russian high priority goals were protection of Crimea and the nuclear power plant. A strong feint on Kiev seems to foster these goals, but I imagine there were even more important things going on which I have not heard about. The US funded bioweapons labs are one possibility.

    I would be less upset if Ukraine had not allowed itself to be manipulated into a pointless bloody war. Unfortunately, we can see from a decade of rabid posting by AP, Hack and LatW how strong feelings can be channeled to start wars. None of this means that I favor Russia or approve of the organized crime-government syndicates in Russia, Ukraine or the West. This combat in Ukraine would not have happened if the West had not been planning a sanctions trap to break the Russian system.

  791. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    I would consider it a big favor if you could tune in to Tennessee's greatest media personality and find out who the Hawk Tuah chick is endorsing.

    Replies: @songbird

    Monika Lewinsky endorsed Harris.

    Was going to troll AP by calling her an ethnic compatriot, but then I did an early life check.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Not even a close substitute. Hawk Tuah chick is a girl you could take home to meet mom compared to that woman, to Ms. Lewinsky. If it works on her biochemistry we might see the latter in semaglutide (gila monster venom) testimonial ads.

    Joe Rogan is advertising Athletic Greens for all the people who cannot stomach eating healthy vegetables. Some of the late comments in Unz's sugar blues article are good. This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.

    Replies: @A123

  792. Once again, am impressed by Musk’s rhetoric. Skeptical that it will turn into anything, even if they get Ron Paul on board. But at least they are saying the right things.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Here is a related brief video to stir your curiosity. One of the most interesting parts of this author's work are the "how to" videos he finds and includes, such as in this piece. To people above a certain age I think these very sincere how-to vids are mind boggling. https://www.bitchute.com/video/oVMqijjuJw10

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  793. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Nobody will be putting up statues of Zelko, Biden or BoJo in Kiev or Lviv. Ukies will curse them for generations.
     
    No statues for Zelensky yet? Ukrainians are already thinking ahead and planning to commemorate their new fuehrer:

    Here's a prototype model already circulating in Brussels:

    https://api.brusselstimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/58fe5b8d-belgaimage-60719035-1-1024x683.jpg

    Here's one already standing somewhere in Kyiv:
    https://i.dawn.com/primary/2022/05/6276ec1daf99c.jpg

    I kinda like the second one a little bit better. How about you? :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    Sorry, my art taste is insufficient to comprehend the ‘things’ you posted. But it doesn’t look like something that will stick around – it lacks good taste. But how about those Zelko’s statues? Any in Ukraine yet?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Sorry, I couldn't locate any of Zelensky, yet. I did, however, find another one of Putler in Kyiv. I think that it's sufficiently comprehensible for even you to figure it out:

    https://www.kyivpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/porrpro-1300x738.jpg

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  794. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, my art taste is insufficient to comprehend the 'things' you posted. But it doesn't look like something that will stick around - it lacks good taste. But how about those Zelko's statues? Any in Ukraine yet?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, I couldn’t locate any of Zelensky, yet. I did, however, find another one of Putler in Kyiv. I think that it’s sufficiently comprehensible for even you to figure it out:

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1853121428918296822



    https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1853148907682824310

    Replies: @songbird

  795. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Monika Lewinsky endorsed Harris.

    Was going to troll AP by calling her an ethnic compatriot, but then I did an early life check.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Not even a close substitute. Hawk Tuah chick is a girl you could take home to meet mom compared to that woman, to Ms. Lewinsky. If it works on her biochemistry we might see the latter in semaglutide (gila monster venom) testimonial ads.

    Joe Rogan is advertising Athletic Greens for all the people who cannot stomach eating healthy vegetables. Some of the late comments in Unz’s sugar blues article are good. This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.
     
    And, only a few of the early comments are worthwhile.

    There is not enough water in Gaza, because the Muslims of Hamas damaged the aquifer. I keep asking the same practical question about what can be done in a few months, and I never hear a serious answer from those supporting the Muslim colony in Gaza.

    How will the global Islamic community of nations close the gap in Gaza between the fresh water supply and the Muslim population?

    The outrage monkeys claim water will be stolen from nuclear armed, indigenous Palestinian Jews. Not gonna happen...

    There are only two PRACTICAL concepts:

    -1- Increase the water supply to Gaza, via pipelines and/or desalination.
    -2- Relocate Muslims out of Gaza to Islamic lands with water.

    Option #1 brings all sorts of issues that threaten sustainability:

    • Who will pay for the desalination plants?
    • Who will pay the annual costs to operate them?
    • What happens if they are blown up because terrorists try to hide behind them?
    • Will Islam commit to large transfer payments every year for decades (possibly forever) to keep this infrastructure in operation?

    At 2.5MM headed to above 4 million, it is hard to conceive of any workable plan based on increasing the supply. The population boom is surging the demand.

    Option #2 is much more effective as a permanent resolution. Let Muslims return to their authentic religious lands around the Persian Gulf. Iran and Qatar are obvious options. Gaza would be livable, and might even prosper, with a Muslim population of 500-750K.

    The UNRWA dole has allowed the global Islamic community to "kick the can down the road" for decades. The long overdue exclusion of UNRWA from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza removes that crutch. Any plan for Gaza will have to center on long term viability.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  796. Battle of the Nations
    Germany France

    [MORE]

  797. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Not even a close substitute. Hawk Tuah chick is a girl you could take home to meet mom compared to that woman, to Ms. Lewinsky. If it works on her biochemistry we might see the latter in semaglutide (gila monster venom) testimonial ads.

    Joe Rogan is advertising Athletic Greens for all the people who cannot stomach eating healthy vegetables. Some of the late comments in Unz's sugar blues article are good. This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.

    Replies: @A123

    This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.

    And, only a few of the early comments are worthwhile.

    There is not enough water in Gaza, because the Muslims of Hamas damaged the aquifer. I keep asking the same practical question about what can be done in a few months, and I never hear a serious answer from those supporting the Muslim colony in Gaza.

    How will the global Islamic community of nations close the gap in Gaza between the fresh water supply and the Muslim population?

    The outrage monkeys claim water will be stolen from nuclear armed, indigenous Palestinian Jews. Not gonna happen…

    There are only two PRACTICAL concepts:

    -1- Increase the water supply to Gaza, via pipelines and/or desalination.
    -2- Relocate Muslims out of Gaza to Islamic lands with water.

    Option #1 brings all sorts of issues that threaten sustainability:

    • Who will pay for the desalination plants?
    • Who will pay the annual costs to operate them?
    • What happens if they are blown up because terrorists try to hide behind them?
    • Will Islam commit to large transfer payments every year for decades (possibly forever) to keep this infrastructure in operation?

    At 2.5MM headed to above 4 million, it is hard to conceive of any workable plan based on increasing the supply. The population boom is surging the demand.

    Option #2 is much more effective as a permanent resolution. Let Muslims return to their authentic religious lands around the Persian Gulf. Iran and Qatar are obvious options. Gaza would be livable, and might even prosper, with a Muslim population of 500-750K.

    The UNRWA dole has allowed the global Islamic community to “kick the can down the road” for decades. The long overdue exclusion of UNRWA from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza removes that crutch. Any plan for Gaza will have to center on long term viability.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    What do you consider the best example desalination plant analog? I know I asked you this before but I don't keep a database of everything every body ever said in a big gotcha file like you-might-know-who.

    Replies: @A123

  798. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Are you insane? White women despise Harris. You are entitled to your opinion, but assuming that Harris will save losing Ukraine makes you think silly.

    Another feelings-based Putin defender that avoids using Google.

    Why am I not surprised.

    You could have Googled "White women polls Harris" to see that Trump only has White women by a few points. White women with college degrees are opposed to Trump and that has been true since 2020.

    I was just pointing out in another thread that he has a record low score with White women for a GOP presidential candidate.

    White women will probably decide the election. Ironically if Trump wins it could be through minority men in Georgia and Michigan.

    As for Harris I am not voting for her. I don't support Affirmative Action. The Democrats chose to not have a proper primary and again defaulted to Affirmative Action out of White guilt instead of making a rational decision based on numbers.

    Trump has already proven that he will support the military industrial complex when pressed. I would only be concerned for Ukraine if Vance was president. Ukraine needs troops and France would be a better source.

    Replies: @Derer

    Another feelings-based Putin defender that avoids using Google

    Exactly, Google is the biggest internet spy that I try to avoid. I am pretty sure that they have in their, for sale, database even your circumcised penis size Johnson. Both creators of Google are circumcised and not politically neutral (that goes for Facebook as well) and that to me indicates they hate Putin and everything Russians. As an internet service provider they should stay away from filthy politics.

  799. @songbird
    Once again, am impressed by Musk's rhetoric. Skeptical that it will turn into anything, even if they get Ron Paul on board. But at least they are saying the right things.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1853079605596340235

    Replies: @QCIC

    Here is a related brief video to stir your curiosity. One of the most interesting parts of this author’s work are the “how to” videos he finds and includes, such as in this piece. To people above a certain age I think these very sincere how-to vids are mind boggling.

    [MORE]
    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    He needs more gila monster venom.

    Replies: @QCIC

  800. @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    This is in contrast to all of the late comments in any Unz Israel article where after one day you can pretty much forget it.
     
    And, only a few of the early comments are worthwhile.

    There is not enough water in Gaza, because the Muslims of Hamas damaged the aquifer. I keep asking the same practical question about what can be done in a few months, and I never hear a serious answer from those supporting the Muslim colony in Gaza.

    How will the global Islamic community of nations close the gap in Gaza between the fresh water supply and the Muslim population?

    The outrage monkeys claim water will be stolen from nuclear armed, indigenous Palestinian Jews. Not gonna happen...

    There are only two PRACTICAL concepts:

    -1- Increase the water supply to Gaza, via pipelines and/or desalination.
    -2- Relocate Muslims out of Gaza to Islamic lands with water.

    Option #1 brings all sorts of issues that threaten sustainability:

    • Who will pay for the desalination plants?
    • Who will pay the annual costs to operate them?
    • What happens if they are blown up because terrorists try to hide behind them?
    • Will Islam commit to large transfer payments every year for decades (possibly forever) to keep this infrastructure in operation?

    At 2.5MM headed to above 4 million, it is hard to conceive of any workable plan based on increasing the supply. The population boom is surging the demand.

    Option #2 is much more effective as a permanent resolution. Let Muslims return to their authentic religious lands around the Persian Gulf. Iran and Qatar are obvious options. Gaza would be livable, and might even prosper, with a Muslim population of 500-750K.

    The UNRWA dole has allowed the global Islamic community to "kick the can down the road" for decades. The long overdue exclusion of UNRWA from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza removes that crutch. Any plan for Gaza will have to center on long term viability.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    What do you consider the best example desalination plant analog? I know I asked you this before but I don’t keep a database of everything every body ever said in a big gotcha file like you-might-know-who.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    What do you consider the best example desalination plant
     
    The best technology proven at vary large scale is reverse osmosis. It requires considerable electricity to generate the pressure gradient. Large plants have a dedicated power generation plants on site. The membranes are a very specialized product. Even if run efficiently, it is expensive in terms of annual operating cost.

    As we saw with Biden's failed Hamas resupply pier, shore conditions are exposed and storm prone. Floating solar still distillation might work elsewhere, but it is particularly unsuitable for Gaza.

    PEACE 😇
  801. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Here is a related brief video to stir your curiosity. One of the most interesting parts of this author's work are the "how to" videos he finds and includes, such as in this piece. To people above a certain age I think these very sincere how-to vids are mind boggling. https://www.bitchute.com/video/oVMqijjuJw10

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    He needs more gila monster venom.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Gilachrome!

  802. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    What do you consider the best example desalination plant analog? I know I asked you this before but I don't keep a database of everything every body ever said in a big gotcha file like you-might-know-who.

    Replies: @A123

    What do you consider the best example desalination plant

    The best technology proven at vary large scale is reverse osmosis. It requires considerable electricity to generate the pressure gradient. Large plants have a dedicated power generation plants on site. The membranes are a very specialized product. Even if run efficiently, it is expensive in terms of annual operating cost.

    As we saw with Biden’s failed Hamas resupply pier, shore conditions are exposed and storm prone. Floating solar still distillation might work elsewhere, but it is particularly unsuitable for Gaza.

    PEACE 😇

  803. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Sorry, I couldn't locate any of Zelensky, yet. I did, however, find another one of Putler in Kyiv. I think that it's sufficiently comprehensible for even you to figure it out:

    https://www.kyivpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/porrpro-1300x738.jpg

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Saw a clip of that temple fight. Didn't even listen to the audio, and I knew it was Canada.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  804. Russians being told to attack machine gun nests head on:

    Why are they upset at being sent into machine guns? Have they not read any history? That has been the Russian way since the machine gun was invented.

    This is exactly how both the Finns and Germans described the Russian attacks of WW2. They would charge machine gun nests and if they all died then the next group would come in.

    Finnish troops voting on Russian rule in 1942:

  805. @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    He needs more gila monster venom.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Gilachrome!

  806. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1853121428918296822



    https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1853148907682824310

    Replies: @songbird

    Saw a clip of that temple fight. Didn’t even listen to the audio, and I knew it was Canada.

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    No comment from my end.


    https://twitter.com/BezirganMocha/status/1853606265253159172

  807. Is it true that there are Yiddish songs being played from trucks in Rockland County, saying vote for Trump?

    Thought Yiddish was a dead language.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Oy vey!

  808. @AP
    @Mikel


    It depends on degree.

    No, it doesn’t.
     

    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    It depends entirely on one’s moral compass.

     

    In my moral compass killing 40,000 is much worse than killing 2,600.

    Not only in terms of the numbers themselves, but to the fact that this extreme disparity points to other things, such as motive and goals.

    A war policy that results in 2,600 civilian deaths in a territory with 6 million people must in its essence be fundamentally different from a war policy that results in 40,000 civilian deaths in a territory of 1.2 million people. Putin killed about 15 times more Chechens in absolute terms and 75 times more Chechens in per capita terms when crushing the rebellion in Chechnya, than the Ukrainians did in Donbas. This obviously reflects the fact that Putin held much less regard for human life than did Kiev's leaders.


    If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state,
     
    Are you suggesting that these people were some sort of a deliberate sacrifice?

    Did you know that civilians (and animals) die in any war, even if they are not deliberately targeted for death? That is why it is better not to start one, as the Russians did in Donbas in 2014.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders

    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she’s better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.
     

    I'll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc. An American Hitler.* I didn't know it because I wasn't familiar with Vance, but Vance was saying the same thing about Trump around that time. I did blame Republican elites for neglecting the needs of those lower class white voters; they should have been more paternalistic and less greedy.

    I helpfully pointed out that Trump won the places where people die of prescription drug overdoses:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/saturday-elections-open-thread/#comment-1346761

    I had voted for Kasich in the Republican primary - a very competent technocrat who was architect of America's balanced budget during the Clinton years (Clinton was forced to go along because the Republicans controlled congress).

    But I was very pleasantly surprised to see that the 2016-2020 Trump administration had competent managers and made a lot of good policy. Clearly better than Obama's had been. So I voted for Trump in 2020. If Trump had the same team now that he did in 2020 I would have without hesitation voted for him this election.

    Unfortunately, most of Trump's competent advisors are gone and have been replaced by a bunch of clowns like RFK Jr. Even worse, those who had made Trump's prior administration a success are mostly advising voters not to vote for Trump.

    So I didn't.

    So don't imply that my voting for Kamala is some sort of recent opportunism driven solely by Ukraine policy.


    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.

    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music.
     

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn't regard illiterate Irish as "quintessentially European" lol (should I post their cartoons?) and illiterate Sicilian peasants of the 19th century had as much in common with the Renaissance as Mexicans. There are plenty of baroque cathedrals in Mexico, and Mexico was producing its own baroque music.

    Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn’t make it had to return home.
     
    These are negative factors, though illegals don't have the same access to welfare, at least in some states. This may contribute to them being such hard workers.

    And they do assimilate. They and their descendants become English-speaking, and many even vote Republican. Especially in places where white people vote Republican, such as Texas or Florida. Not to the same degree as white people, but moving in that direction. But not in California, where White people vote Democrat too.

    American Latinos tend to assimilate to America's working class.

    By the way, Steve Sailer has shown that the turning point against the GOP in California was not because of Mexicans but because Washington shut down a lot of the defense industry. You, too, don't like the defense industry very much. Helping Ukraine benefits it, of course.


    you don’t feel that because you are not an American

    But didn’t you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger’s opinions on US politics
     

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.

    You shopped around various countries before eventually coming here from Latin America.


    your background has advantages also

    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don’t have anything to compare it to so it’s easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it’s much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland.
     

    Indeed. As a rootless wanderer and outsider, you can examine different places like a consumer examines brands of cars, dispassionately assessing strengths and weaknesses (for you). Novelty and lack of tradition don't mean much to do, because you can't feel them - it isn't your country, and you rejected your own traditions anyways (you are neither religious nor did you transmit your language to your children). It's a powerful position to be in, there are advantages to it of course.

    Meanwhile, an American such as myself is simply disturbed by the very untraditional un-American politics of Trump, a cry for help and a cry of rage of the lower less successful segments of American society that looks like something from South of the Border rather than what America should have.

    *Which, as I pointed out, was not like the German one in the most infamous aspects.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    Agreed, but by that logic, didn’t Austria-Hungary make a huge mistake in not going to war against Serbia back in 1905 when Russia was busy fighting against Japan and dealing with revolution back at home? Back then, Russia would have very likely not been willing or capable of going to war against Austria-Hungary over Serbia, unlike in 1914.

    Similarly, didn’t Russia, from a Russian nationalist perspective, make a huge mistake in waiting until 2022 in order to try conquering Ukraine instead of trying to do this back in 2014?

  809. US delivers drone bombers that are invulnerable to Russian jammers

    “We don’t produce anything”

    – military expert Scott Ritter describing US military production capability

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Yada, yada, yada: Measure, countermeasure -> new measure, new countermeasure...ad infinitum.

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime. It is not hopeless, though. The USA still produces quite a bit of decent equipment. I suspect US satellites (especially military) are the best.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    I think he means these, that vid looks like a Reaper.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_AI_MQ-35A_V-BAT

    https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2024/10/us-made-jam-resistant-drones-are-helping-ukrainians-cut-through-russia-ew/400735

  810. 😁Open Thread Humor😂

    Normally I avoid tweets, but this is just too good. [MORE]

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Reminds me a bit of the humorous Rudy Ayoub "arab dad" schtick on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDQ0SNRpv9Q

    , @emil nikola richard
    @A123


    https://twitter.com/woofknight/status/1852774904132665679

    Apparently my question was ambiguous.

    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?

    I presume there aren't any.

    Replies: @A123

  811. @A123
    😁Open Thread Humor😂

    Normally I avoid tweets, but this is just too good. [MORE]

    PEACE 😇



    https://twitter.com/DefiantWorld/status/1852317161278394761?s=4

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard

    Reminds me a bit of the humorous Rudy Ayoub “arab dad” schtick on YT.

    [MORE]

  812. @John Johnson
    US delivers drone bombers that are invulnerable to Russian jammers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8EV45_vZ5g

    "We don't produce anything"

    - military expert Scott Ritter describing US military production capability

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    Yada, yada, yada: Measure, countermeasure -> new measure, new countermeasure…ad infinitum.

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime. It is not hopeless, though. The USA still produces quite a bit of decent equipment. I suspect US satellites (especially military) are the best.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it
     
    AI reinforces conventional thoughts - it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly. You are right the morons will use it, they don't have much else left to play with.

    In Czechia they compared the speeches of the hopelessly pro-Atlanticist prime minister and the speeches matched 100% what AI says on the same topics. I suspect JJohnson will tell us it is all good because AI is the 'ultimate credentialed expert'...so we have that to look forward to...:)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime.

    I was referring to one of his original rants where he falsely assumed that all US manufacturing has been off shored. For a military expert he should have known that US defense spending is ridiculously high and that bipartisan MIC support in part exists because it creates jobs in states like California.

    Once again the self-described military expert got it wrong.

    We manufacture all kinds of armaments. I think our defense spending is shameful and obviously a massive part of the deficit but production has expanded even further thanks to this war. Our main 155mm plant is literally operating 24/7. HIMARs shell production is at capacity and manufacturing lines are being expanded. Those contracts have all been signed and HIMARs is in fact backordered for 10 years. Putin's invasion has lifted defense profits to levels that were unimaginable in 2021. Patriots are backordered and F-35s were already behind schedule due to European demand.

    So Scott was just plain wrong......again. US defense manufacturing production is at a high and yet can't keep up with demand. Spending in NATO countries increased and much of it will go to the US. There are also two new NATO members that will be going on a shopping spree.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    For all we know they are already feeding in every Russian position into a supercomputer that runs every possible strategy. As in direct sat feeds going into a computer that then spits out suggestions.

    We really don't know. But even in that scenario the Ukrainian generals would have the final say on what the computer suggests. The US is definitely not conducting the war and only advising. Putin lucked out that Ukraine ignored US/UK advice in the weeks prior to the war.

    I would assume the DOD at least has some type of video game looking console where a computer identifies a Russian target and suggests an action. Really not much different than AI used in chess games.

    So there is no reason to worry about some Skynet scenario if that is what you are getting at. It is possible that General AI could come up with a plan that seems appealing but ultimately fails. But the Ukrainian generals would still be responsible for enacting it.

    Replies: @QCIC

  813. @songbird
    Is it true that there are Yiddish songs being played from trucks in Rockland County, saying vote for Trump?

    Thought Yiddish was a dead language.
    https://twitter.com/Mostofsky/status/1853213600627708343

    Replies: @QCIC

    Oy vey!

    • LOL: songbird
  814. Am ethnic Ukrainian from Russian occupied territory I know has just had her 22 year old grandson killed in action having been in the army for three years.

  815. @songbird
    @Coconuts


    If his grandad was a colonial civil servant or worked for an oil company?
     
    I was thinking he and his cousin looked a bit lighter than most people from Sierra Leone. (Could maybe be living in UK? )

    Also, a bit mysterious why he doesn't seem to play the diversity card from his father's side too. (Father walked out on them maybe?). It would fit into American patterns, if they were seeking the blacks with more Euro blood, for his father to have been a mulatto.

    The progressives have already started calling Badenoch a coconut
     
    That is funny. I vaguely thought that was a term South Asians used (Razib Khan has the emoji on his x handle). In America, I have heard the term oreo used once.

    Lammy may be one of the better ones.
     
    It is so weird to think Lammy is promoting reparations and Guyanese. Very thinly populated country, rich in hydrocarbons. Per capita reserves, like one of those small Arab oil states or even better.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I was thinking he and his cousin looked a bit lighter than most people from Sierra Leone. (Could maybe be living in UK? )

    Yes, I was thinking that maybe his dad and grandparents are white, just raised in Africa somewhere, and more than one of them ended up marrying someone black. It might be why it isn’t mentioned, some of the colonial/expat legacy stuff, where they both marry natives, may not fit well with the current diversity narratives.

    They may have married into the Sierra Leone elite or similar. You can find that with some prominent mixed race personalities (e.g. David Olusoga), his dad was a Nigerian prince of some kind who had enough money or education to study in Britain in the 50s and 60s, so one of a small elite.

    [MORE]

    This can be a hidden way of trolling the progressives, when the blacks elevated into positions of power are likely to be descendants of slave-trading African nobility, and those chiefs and princes who allied with the British elite during colonial times.

    It would fit into American patterns, if they were seeking the blacks with more Euro blood, for his father to have been a mulatto.

    This must be the other possibility, that his grandad married a black or mulatto and his dad and any uncles/aunts are light mulattoes themselves.

    In America, I have heard the term oreo used once.

    I’ve heard it as well. Our term coconut has been used for a long time, it can be applied to blacks or South Asians, I would guess because this issue of both blacks and South Asians acting as British allies against locals (especially Marxist inspired nationalists) is an older one.

    It is so weird to think Lammy is promoting reparations and Guyanese. Very thinly populated country, rich in hydrocarbons. Per capita reserves, like one of those small Arab oil states or even better.

    I didn’t know that about Guyana. Reparations is interesting, I think the Tories know they can troll Labour over things like this if Badenoch is the leader, even though she will not really inspire their voters and it makes the immigration issue more visible. But this still ends up less divisive overall than letting the spotlight fall too long on Lammy and some of the other BAME Labour MPs.

    • Thanks: songbird
  816. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Yada, yada, yada: Measure, countermeasure -> new measure, new countermeasure...ad infinitum.

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime. It is not hopeless, though. The USA still produces quite a bit of decent equipment. I suspect US satellites (especially military) are the best.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    …some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it

    AI reinforces conventional thoughts – it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly. You are right the morons will use it, they don’t have much else left to play with.

    In Czechia they compared the speeches of the hopelessly pro-Atlanticist prime minister and the speeches matched 100% what AI says on the same topics. I suspect JJohnson will tell us it is all good because AI is the ‘ultimate credentialed expert‘…so we have that to look forward to…:)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    AI reinforces conventional thoughts – it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly
     
    It would be better if AI were programmed to provide outcomes more in line with some wild-eyed conspiracy models? More normal types of methods for modeling based on probability and statistical theories should be abandoned in favor of more subjective sources?

    Replies: @QCIC

  817. In a kind of surreal way, this reminds me of Michael Crichton’s Sphere (spoilers):

    [MORE]

    After the black psychologist goes into the Sphere, he gains the power of his subconscious thoughts to manifest. IIRC (read it ages ago), there is a danger when he falls asleep, so they try to wake him up, but he is guarded by black women in army fatigues (who were manifested from his subconscious.)

    At the time Michael Crichton wrote it (pub 1987), I believe he knew that black women in army fatigues was a very strange image for many Americans.

    The final scene, IIRC, is the female character wishing herself to be younger and more attractive.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Since the group is called GloRilla, I guess they are reminding us that you can take a glorilla out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the gorilla. There may be other messages I prefer not to translate.

    The people in the background do not look very happy. Maybe they are regretting their mail-in voting choices.

  818. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it
     
    AI reinforces conventional thoughts - it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly. You are right the morons will use it, they don't have much else left to play with.

    In Czechia they compared the speeches of the hopelessly pro-Atlanticist prime minister and the speeches matched 100% what AI says on the same topics. I suspect JJohnson will tell us it is all good because AI is the 'ultimate credentialed expert'...so we have that to look forward to...:)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    AI reinforces conventional thoughts – it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly

    It would be better if AI were programmed to provide outcomes more in line with some wild-eyed conspiracy models? More normal types of methods for modeling based on probability and statistical theories should be abandoned in favor of more subjective sources?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    It will be interesting to see if widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs. For example, an AI can process the data related to the COVID epidemic and may come up with a non-mainstream explanation. This applies especially to the mRNA shots which were novel and by historical standards required much more extensive trials than what occurred. An AI could register the fact that the casualties and risks of COVID did not justify the emergency use authorization by the time the shots were rolled out.

    Presumably programmers create subroutines which manage the narrative spewed from an AI but this process sounds tricky.

    On a related note, when will they build a computer which requires a 100 megawatts (MW) of power? The fastest at the moment requires 22 MW. Rock on, Neo.

    Replies: @Beckow

  819. Meanwhile EU manufacturing, deprived of Russian energy, continues to decline:

    “Europe’s manufacturing production fell for the 19th month in a row in October”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2024/nov/04/oil-prices-opec-ryanair-fares-bank-of-england-us-election-trump-harris-ftse-100-pound-business-live-news?page=with:block-67288de28f08b3d97c364ddd#block-67288de28f08b3d97c364ddd

  820. @John Johnson
    US delivers drone bombers that are invulnerable to Russian jammers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8EV45_vZ5g

    "We don't produce anything"

    - military expert Scott Ritter describing US military production capability

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

  821. November 4, 2024:

    What Ukrainians Fear if Trump Wins
    Serhiy Kolyada on Trump’s and the MAG’s understanding of a peace settlement with Russia.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Why is Putin side yellow? Why is it small.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  822. Closer to home:

    CARTOON: RFK Jr. in a Trump administration?

    (would have enjoyed reading a reply from AP in regards to comment #551. Alas, he must be too busy…again?).

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK, thanks to the usual suspect. Polio and TB had vanished by the 1980s.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-68007804


    UKHSA statistics show 581 cases have been recorded since 1 October 2023.

    66% (381) in the West Midlands/
    14% (83) in London
    7% (43) in Yorkshire and The Humber
    13% (74) in other regions of England

    Just under two-thirds of these cases (65%) were in children under the age of 10, while 27% involved young people and adults over the age of 15.

    Case numbers have been extremely high in the West Midlands, but the UKHSA says these appear to be stabilising.
     
    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/06/22/1106711204/polio-found-in-u-k-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-40-years-heres-what-it-means

    For the first time in nearly 40 years, health officials in the U.K. have identified a likely outbreak of polio in London.

    So far, there have been no cases of polio detected directly in the U.K. But instead, scientists have discovered the outbreak through an indirect route. They've found multiple versions of the virus in sewage water, the U.K. Health Security Agency said Wednesday in a press release.

    The viruses' genetic sequences suggest "there has been some spread between closely linked individuals in north and east London," the UKHSA said.
     
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tuberculosis-in-england-2022-report-data-up-to-end-of-2021/tb-incidence-and-epidemiology-in-england-2021

    the majority of people with TB in England were born outside the UK
     

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    RFK is also against fluoride in our precious bodily fluids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  823. @Mr. Hack
    November 4, 2024:

    What Ukrainians Fear if Trump Wins
    Serhiy Kolyada on Trump's and the MAG's understanding of a peace settlement with Russia.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/11/04/0b901ff0475b2cf5c881c2cc551b7160.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Replies: @Derer

    Why is Putin side yellow? Why is it small.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    The yellow side is half of the cake, he also has his knife in the blue side too. You need some reading glasses?

  824. @songbird
    In a kind of surreal way, this reminds me of Michael Crichton's Sphere (spoilers):

    After the black psychologist goes into the Sphere, he gains the power of his subconscious thoughts to manifest. IIRC (read it ages ago), there is a danger when he falls asleep, so they try to wake him up, but he is guarded by black women in army fatigues (who were manifested from his subconscious.)
    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1853206334306468213

    At the time Michael Crichton wrote it (pub 1987), I believe he knew that black women in army fatigues was a very strange image for many Americans.

    The final scene, IIRC, is the female character wishing herself to be younger and more attractive.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Since the group is called GloRilla, I guess they are reminding us that you can take a glorilla out of the jungle, but you can’t take the jungle out of the gorilla. There may be other messages I prefer not to translate.

    The people in the background do not look very happy. Maybe they are regretting their mail-in voting choices.

    • LOL: songbird
  825. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Why is Putin side yellow? Why is it small.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The yellow side is half of the cake, he also has his knife in the blue side too. You need some reading glasses?

  826. @Mr. Hack
    Closer to home:

    CARTOON: RFK Jr. in a Trump administration?

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/19790609_web1_web_RAMclr-110424-quack-MON-CORRECTED.jpg

    (would have enjoyed reading a reply from AP in regards to comment #551. Alas, he must be too busy...again?).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @John Johnson

    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK, thanks to the usual suspect. Polio and TB had vanished by the 1980s.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-68007804

    UKHSA statistics show 581 cases have been recorded since 1 October 2023.

    66% (381) in the West Midlands/
    14% (83) in London
    7% (43) in Yorkshire and The Humber
    13% (74) in other regions of England

    Just under two-thirds of these cases (65%) were in children under the age of 10, while 27% involved young people and adults over the age of 15.

    Case numbers have been extremely high in the West Midlands, but the UKHSA says these appear to be stabilising.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/06/22/1106711204/polio-found-in-u-k-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-40-years-heres-what-it-means

    For the first time in nearly 40 years, health officials in the U.K. have identified a likely outbreak of polio in London.

    So far, there have been no cases of polio detected directly in the U.K. But instead, scientists have discovered the outbreak through an indirect route. They’ve found multiple versions of the virus in sewage water, the U.K. Health Security Agency said Wednesday in a press release.

    The viruses’ genetic sequences suggest “there has been some spread between closely linked individuals in north and east London,” the UKHSA said.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tuberculosis-in-england-2022-report-data-up-to-end-of-2021/tb-incidence-and-epidemiology-in-england-2021

    the majority of people with TB in England were born outside the UK

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK,
     
    Probably going up soon in the US too. Not to worry though, RFK Jr to the rescue! :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

  827. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK, thanks to the usual suspect. Polio and TB had vanished by the 1980s.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-68007804


    UKHSA statistics show 581 cases have been recorded since 1 October 2023.

    66% (381) in the West Midlands/
    14% (83) in London
    7% (43) in Yorkshire and The Humber
    13% (74) in other regions of England

    Just under two-thirds of these cases (65%) were in children under the age of 10, while 27% involved young people and adults over the age of 15.

    Case numbers have been extremely high in the West Midlands, but the UKHSA says these appear to be stabilising.
     
    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/06/22/1106711204/polio-found-in-u-k-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-40-years-heres-what-it-means

    For the first time in nearly 40 years, health officials in the U.K. have identified a likely outbreak of polio in London.

    So far, there have been no cases of polio detected directly in the U.K. But instead, scientists have discovered the outbreak through an indirect route. They've found multiple versions of the virus in sewage water, the U.K. Health Security Agency said Wednesday in a press release.

    The viruses' genetic sequences suggest "there has been some spread between closely linked individuals in north and east London," the UKHSA said.
     
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tuberculosis-in-england-2022-report-data-up-to-end-of-2021/tb-incidence-and-epidemiology-in-england-2021

    the majority of people with TB in England were born outside the UK
     

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK,

    Probably going up soon in the US too. Not to worry though, RFK Jr to the rescue! 🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Let's see,

    - Massive open immigration from disease-ridden third world countries with inadequate quarantine brings in rare diseases. Check.

    - Ridiculous childhood vaccine schedule which mostly benefits big pharma. Check.

    - Well documented correlations between childhood developmental problems and expansion of the mandatory vaccine schedule. Check.

    - Misrepresentation of widely documented vaccine side-effects and inevitable risk-benefit tradeoffs of public health campaigns. Check.

    - Idiots with torches and pitchforks go after anyone who wants to investigate and solve this problem. Check.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    , @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Don't really know how the system works, but I'd be interested to know if he will somehow increase parasitic worm research.

    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.

    Supposedly, anti-worm research was financed by corporate for Africans on the theory of putting people before profits, and that it would pay off later. And it has, on pet meds. But I don't believe that woke story for a second - I believe they always thought they were going to make money off it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  828. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    AI reinforces conventional thoughts – it enhances conformism, sometimes absurdly
     
    It would be better if AI were programmed to provide outcomes more in line with some wild-eyed conspiracy models? More normal types of methods for modeling based on probability and statistical theories should be abandoned in favor of more subjective sources?

    Replies: @QCIC

    It will be interesting to see if widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs. For example, an AI can process the data related to the COVID epidemic and may come up with a non-mainstream explanation. This applies especially to the mRNA shots which were novel and by historical standards required much more extensive trials than what occurred. An AI could register the fact that the casualties and risks of COVID did not justify the emergency use authorization by the time the shots were rolled out.

    Presumably programmers create subroutines which manage the narrative spewed from an AI but this process sounds tricky.

    On a related note, when will they build a computer which requires a 100 megawatts (MW) of power? The fastest at the moment requires 22 MW. Rock on, Neo.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs.
     
    AI has no independent agency - it is coded to follow certain narratives. It is like wikipedia on steroids, it rehashes what the authorities allow to be published and circulated. Any uncomfortable facts that don't fit are deprioritized.

    An example of the same "AI" approach are the Google News or the YouTube algorithm: they are programmed to go first with certain approved news and suppress or deprioritize others. It is possible to change it and code it more even-handedly, but why would they?

    These tools exist to manage simpletons like Mr. Hack and they work (as we see here), they will only double-down on the biases and AI will enhance it before presenting it in a polished form. Beginnings are always the best, there is some give-and-take to get people hooked, but the potential for conformist-lying is unlimited. And they will do it...

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  829. Will AP move to Canada, if Trump gets in?

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird

    He probably won't, but why would I do that?

    Replies: @songbird

  830. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK,
     
    Probably going up soon in the US too. Not to worry though, RFK Jr to the rescue! :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    Let’s see,

    – Massive open immigration from disease-ridden third world countries with inadequate quarantine brings in rare diseases. Check.

    – Ridiculous childhood vaccine schedule which mostly benefits big pharma. Check.

    – Well documented correlations between childhood developmental problems and expansion of the mandatory vaccine schedule. Check.

    – Misrepresentation of widely documented vaccine side-effects and inevitable risk-benefit tradeoffs of public health campaigns. Check.

    – Idiots with torches and pitchforks go after anyone who wants to investigate and solve this problem. Check.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    You left out the part where the doctors start working on Day 1 with 500 000 dollars in student loan debt and won't say boo to the guy signing their paycheck. It isn't easy to think when you have your nuts in a vise grip.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Locking_pliers.jpg

  831. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Measles, polio and TB are all making a comeback in the UK,
     
    Probably going up soon in the US too. Not to worry though, RFK Jr to the rescue! :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    Don’t really know how the system works, but I’d be interested to know if he will somehow increase parasitic worm research.

    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.

    Supposedly, anti-worm research was financed by corporate for Africans on the theory of putting people before profits, and that it would pay off later. And it has, on pet meds. But I don’t believe that woke story for a second – I believe they always thought they were going to make money off it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.
     
    For real? Tell me more. I'm now at the age where being insulin resistant is almost a right of passage. Something like 70 million Americans are now either insulin resistant or have diabetes, but up to 50% don't even know it. These numbers are increasing at even higher, alarming rates, not only in the US, but around the world. Anybody out there know anything about drinking ACV (apple cider vinegar) to curb the glucose accumulating in the body, or using berberine supplements? I'd be interested in hearing about anybody's experiences with these two substances.

    Replies: @songbird

  832. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Let's see,

    - Massive open immigration from disease-ridden third world countries with inadequate quarantine brings in rare diseases. Check.

    - Ridiculous childhood vaccine schedule which mostly benefits big pharma. Check.

    - Well documented correlations between childhood developmental problems and expansion of the mandatory vaccine schedule. Check.

    - Misrepresentation of widely documented vaccine side-effects and inevitable risk-benefit tradeoffs of public health campaigns. Check.

    - Idiots with torches and pitchforks go after anyone who wants to investigate and solve this problem. Check.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    You left out the part where the doctors start working on Day 1 with 500 000 dollars in student loan debt and won’t say boo to the guy signing their paycheck. It isn’t easy to think when you have your nuts in a vise grip.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack, QCIC
  833. What does ChatGPT say when you ask them how come there’s no Mexicans in the NBA?

  834. @A123
    😁Open Thread Humor😂

    Normally I avoid tweets, but this is just too good. [MORE]

    PEACE 😇



    https://twitter.com/DefiantWorld/status/1852317161278394761?s=4

    Replies: @QCIC, @emil nikola richard

    [MORE]

    Apparently my question was ambiguous.

    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?

    I presume there aren’t any.

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?
     
    I presume there aren’t any.

     
    There are a number of successes using reverse osmosis. Here is an example: (1)

    The Sorek desalination located about 15km south of Tel Aviv, Israel, became operational in October 2013 with a seawater treatment capacity of 624,000m³/day, which makes it world’s biggest seawater desalination plant.

    The desalination facility uses seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) process providing water to Israel’s national water carrier system.

    Construction of the desalination plant began in January 2011 and was completed with a total investment of about $400m.

    One of the most important components of the plant is the use of an SWRO desalination process. SWRO was chosen as it was the most practicable option from technical and economical points of view.
     
    This facility provides about 15% of the drinking water for Israel.

    Reverse osmosis works, but it is expensive.

    PEACE 😇

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XHuT1tcX0
    __________

    (1) https://www.water-technology.net/projects/sorek-desalination-plant/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  835. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Yada, yada, yada: Measure, countermeasure -> new measure, new countermeasure...ad infinitum.

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime. It is not hopeless, though. The USA still produces quite a bit of decent equipment. I suspect US satellites (especially military) are the best.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime.

    I was referring to one of his original rants where he falsely assumed that all US manufacturing has been off shored. For a military expert he should have known that US defense spending is ridiculously high and that bipartisan MIC support in part exists because it creates jobs in states like California.

    Once again the self-described military expert got it wrong.

    We manufacture all kinds of armaments. I think our defense spending is shameful and obviously a massive part of the deficit but production has expanded even further thanks to this war. Our main 155mm plant is literally operating 24/7. HIMARs shell production is at capacity and manufacturing lines are being expanded. Those contracts have all been signed and HIMARs is in fact backordered for 10 years. Putin’s invasion has lifted defense profits to levels that were unimaginable in 2021. Patriots are backordered and F-35s were already behind schedule due to European demand.

    So Scott was just plain wrong……again. US defense manufacturing production is at a high and yet can’t keep up with demand. Spending in NATO countries increased and much of it will go to the US. There are also two new NATO members that will be going on a shopping spree.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    For all we know they are already feeding in every Russian position into a supercomputer that runs every possible strategy. As in direct sat feeds going into a computer that then spits out suggestions.

    We really don’t know. But even in that scenario the Ukrainian generals would have the final say on what the computer suggests. The US is definitely not conducting the war and only advising. Putin lucked out that Ukraine ignored US/UK advice in the weeks prior to the war.

    I would assume the DOD at least has some type of video game looking console where a computer identifies a Russian target and suggests an action. Really not much different than AI used in chess games.

    So there is no reason to worry about some Skynet scenario if that is what you are getting at. It is possible that General AI could come up with a plan that seems appealing but ultimately fails. But the Ukrainian generals would still be responsible for enacting it.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I was not alluding to a Skynet scenario, but I think in a general sense that is a risk down the road a year or two.

    For Ukraine I think we may start to see people begin to view AI as an oracle. They may be too dumb to challenge the suggestions. I hope this is not true but it is consistent with a lot of the gibberish that has been coming out of the US military for the past 30 years.

    I think Ritter is clear on US production capability, both military and industrial. It is well known that many important programs are seriously over budget. The Navy has one shipbuilding debacle after another. I think the US and NATO have the same problem the Russians have: plenty of big ticket hardware but not enough non-flashy equipment to prosecute a peer to peer war. It seems the conflict has started to rectify this, but that doesn't address the morale crushing woke policies.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  836. @Mr. Hack
    Closer to home:

    CARTOON: RFK Jr. in a Trump administration?

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/19790609_web1_web_RAMclr-110424-quack-MON-CORRECTED.jpg

    (would have enjoyed reading a reply from AP in regards to comment #551. Alas, he must be too busy...again?).

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @John Johnson

    RFK is also against fluoride in our precious bodily fluids

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I don't like the taste of vodka, so I hope that wine and brandy are good enough substitutes? I do buy filtered water though for when I'm cooking up a pot of soup ($.25/gallon). Have been using tap water for brewing coffee my whole life, and I'm still here?... I also enjoy drinking mineral water, but I recently bought some at $13/ six pack (a liter, I think per bottle). Not that long ago it was only $11/ six back. So its gone from $1.83 a bottle to $2.17 per bottle. Makes me scratch my head and wonder?...I know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America. Seems that a lot of water holes weren't very safe back then. For $13, I can buy a six pack of some really quality beer, or perhaps a 12 pack of plebian quality stuff at the supermarket?...

    Replies: @John Johnson

  837. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Don't really know how the system works, but I'd be interested to know if he will somehow increase parasitic worm research.

    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.

    Supposedly, anti-worm research was financed by corporate for Africans on the theory of putting people before profits, and that it would pay off later. And it has, on pet meds. But I don't believe that woke story for a second - I believe they always thought they were going to make money off it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.

    For real? Tell me more. I’m now at the age where being insulin resistant is almost a right of passage. Something like 70 million Americans are now either insulin resistant or have diabetes, but up to 50% don’t even know it. These numbers are increasing at even higher, alarming rates, not only in the US, but around the world. Anybody out there know anything about drinking ACV (apple cider vinegar) to curb the glucose accumulating in the body, or using berberine supplements? I’d be interested in hearing about anybody’s experiences with these two substances.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    For real? Tell me more
     
    Well, the worm approach is kind of my imagination. I feel like it probably would be useful for something, but maybe that is too much future tech.

    My understanding is that it is conceptually easy to make cells that produce insulin. (Indeed that is how they manufacture it, though I think purifying it is complicated). I once saw an amateur on youtube swallow something that made his gut cells do it, but that approach is only temporary as gut cells normally slough off, as part of natural processes.

    The Chinese recently did something a bit different where they restored production at the islets of langerhorns. It is supposed to be a first, though I can't understand why nobody did it before. First case was type II, but they recently duplicated it with type I.

    Here's the original case:
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3263878/chinese-scientists-report-world-first-they-cure-patients-diabetes-cell-therapy

    I'll have to try to read up more on the second case. I was always under the assumption that the reason they never did it was because the immune system would destroy any new cells, just as it had the old.

    I guess there are probably ways around it. But I'd like to know, if it is a problem and immunosuppressants are required, or if they engineered a different solution, or whether the attack is a one-time event that doesn't repeat, if the tissue is re-established.

    Anybody out there know anything about drinking ACV (apple cider vinegar
     
    am not kidding, but I thought this was some kind of disinfectant. Like if you have a sore on your foot, bath it in ACV. I have never enjoyed vinegar personally, and thought of the countries where it is put on fries, as poorer.
  838. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    RFK is also against fluoride in our precious bodily fluids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t like the taste of vodka, so I hope that wine and brandy are good enough substitutes? I do buy filtered water though for when I’m cooking up a pot of soup ($.25/gallon). Have been using tap water for brewing coffee my whole life, and I’m still here?… I also enjoy drinking mineral water, but I recently bought some at $13/ six pack (a liter, I think per bottle). Not that long ago it was only $11/ six back. So its gone from $1.83 a bottle to $2.17 per bottle. Makes me scratch my head and wonder?…I know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America. Seems that a lot of water holes weren’t very safe back then. For $13, I can buy a six pack of some really quality beer, or perhaps a 12 pack of plebian quality stuff at the supermarket?…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America.

    It is still that way in parts of the South.

    I've been in parts of Texas where you couldn't even use the water to brush your teeth. It's probably safe but smells and tastes awful. You start to understand why everyone drinks light beer with lunch.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  839. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    It will be interesting to see if widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs. For example, an AI can process the data related to the COVID epidemic and may come up with a non-mainstream explanation. This applies especially to the mRNA shots which were novel and by historical standards required much more extensive trials than what occurred. An AI could register the fact that the casualties and risks of COVID did not justify the emergency use authorization by the time the shots were rolled out.

    Presumably programmers create subroutines which manage the narrative spewed from an AI but this process sounds tricky.

    On a related note, when will they build a computer which requires a 100 megawatts (MW) of power? The fastest at the moment requires 22 MW. Rock on, Neo.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs.

    AI has no independent agency – it is coded to follow certain narratives. It is like wikipedia on steroids, it rehashes what the authorities allow to be published and circulated. Any uncomfortable facts that don’t fit are deprioritized.

    An example of the same “AI” approach are the Google News or the YouTube algorithm: they are programmed to go first with certain approved news and suppress or deprioritize others. It is possible to change it and code it more even-handedly, but why would they?

    These tools exist to manage simpletons like Mr. Hack and they work (as we see here), they will only double-down on the biases and AI will enhance it before presenting it in a polished form. Beginnings are always the best, there is some give-and-take to get people hooked, but the potential for conformist-lying is unlimited. And they will do it…

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @Beckow

    As long as the power of the world is distributed multipolar the limits offer immunity. The Chinks and the Russians will make their own AIs and even rogues like Assange will do it. It doesn't cost anything like what that tool Sam Altman would have us think.

    The Musk AI is no different from the Gates AI.

    They think they have it all figured out but it's pretty obvious from a cursory examination of Unz's sugar blues comments that the unknown unknowns and even the known unkowns but especially the man ain't ever gonna know is an infinite half space.

  840. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    Russia can take the rest of Donbas and call it a win….where the goal was to stop NATO from moving East.
     
    Russia succeeded in stopping NATO moving to Ukraine – and Georgia, Belarus that was also part of the NATO plan.

    NATO is a defensive organization and there is no plan to add Georgia or Belarus. It's not a hierarchy where someone at the top rubs his hands together and schemes. There is however evidence that Russia wants to forcefully annex Belarus:
    https://www.dw.com/en/russia-plans-belarus-absorption-by-2030-media-reports/a-64771429

    Let's see some evidence of NATO wanting Belarus or we will just write this off as your imagination at work.

    Putin described a threat of proximity with NATO in his invasion speech. He spoke of a geographic threat and NATO has since expanded Eastward through Finland.

    Here it is from Putin himself:
    I am referring to the expansion of the NATO to the east, moving its military infrastructure closer to Russian borders.

    Well NATO borders are now closer to Russia. That goal has failed.

    We also know through polls that the Finns changed their mind on NATO after the invasion. Which means his war has had the exact opposite outcome.

    Way to go dwarf. I guess he should have declared Finland to be historic Russia and told the world that he had no choice but to invade.

    In Ukraine Russia took Crimea, the Azov littoral, most of Donbas – 20% of Ukraine is a substantial gain. If we avoid WW3-nukes it will end with stronger Russia and weaker EU. Ukraine is largely destroyed and depopulated – losing 10 million people (5 to Europe and 5 to Russia).

    Ukraine is not largely destroyed. It's the Eastern cities and villages (mostly Russian speaking) that stand in rubble. I don't see how destroying Russian speaking villages will weaken the EU. Russia will exit this war with fewer Slavs, more Muslims and less infrastructure. The amount of damage done to Russian oil refineries is already over 50 billion.

    It's a stupid war and clearly not going as planned as seen by the fact that Russia needs North Korean soldiers to remove Ukraine from Kursk.

    Larry C Bootlicker got that completely wrong in another thread and his hordes were upset with me for not believing his claim that it was a CIA hoax. MOA got it wrong as well. I guess the US Putin fans really believed that Putin had millions of men and was about to crush Ukraine at any minute.....again.

    It happened because of two catastrophic errors: Washington neo-con-libs wanted to move NATO to Ukraine

    Then why didn't they do that after 2014? How were they able to add Finland so easily?

    Replies: @Beckow

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.

    Ukraine is not largely destroyed.

    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million…and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be? The 10 million left from the west, center and the east – and most are not coming back. Ukraine will be a lot smaller if it manages to exist at all, its economy will be a fraction of what it could have been.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies – the went from a strong, resource-rich 50 million people country with good relations with all its neighbors in 1991 to maybe half-that in a war they can’t win and with very painful future. But keep your head in the sand, what else can you do?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.

    Well I'm not here to entertain Putin defenders and you are not in charge of the forum.

    Putin said that the war was needed to stop NATO from moving Eastward. He spoke of "missiles on the border" which is a threat of proximity and not population.

    Yes I realize that you and Russian state tv would like everyone to forget about that speech as the main goal has failed due to Finland joining NATO. Finland borders Russia and can add the "missile silos" that Putin described as an imminent threat. He never specified the type of silo or why they don't exist in the Baltics but his words are public record.

    Feel free to argue that Putin was lying or confused in his original invasion speech. I don't have a problem with that position.

    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million…and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be?

    I'm actually not in charge of the war. But you should write Putin and ask how many Russian families need to lose a son or husband before realizing this war is a mistake.

    I have said this war was a mistake from the beginning and that it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East. There are abandoned cities in Russia and Putin could have used this as an opportunity to fill them. At this rate it would have been cheaper to give them a million dollars.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies

    It's a disaster for both countries. I'm sure Putin would go back in time if he could to 2021 when the world respected the Russian military and didn't view them as a bunch of drunk washing machine raiders.

    Russia will exit this war with a more Muslim population and the Russian military will not recover its former prestige. The US defense industry will have record profits. Those are certainties.

    Islam and the US defense industry are undeniable beneficiaries of this war.

    Look at this defense stock Raytheon from the past year:
    https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/RTX.N

    That's a 50% gain for shareholders.

    Putin is really the gift that keeps giving for the US defense industry. They're making a ton of money by simply running their factories. No new business plan needed, just let Putin continue his death machine and the money comes flowing in. I hope they send him a thank-you card. Putin has made literal millionaires in the US with his war. Mostly 1% types that had stock in the defense industry. The rich get richer and the Russian poor end up dead in a ditch. Keep cheering this war along with US defense industry executives. Putin isn't creative enough to really stick it to the West and could only come up with a lazy 1930s funnel invasion of his Slavic neighbor. Maybe the North Korean troops will help turn things around for him.

    Replies: @Beckow

  841. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...widespread government lies which contradict other accepted facts will give trouble for these AI programs.
     
    AI has no independent agency - it is coded to follow certain narratives. It is like wikipedia on steroids, it rehashes what the authorities allow to be published and circulated. Any uncomfortable facts that don't fit are deprioritized.

    An example of the same "AI" approach are the Google News or the YouTube algorithm: they are programmed to go first with certain approved news and suppress or deprioritize others. It is possible to change it and code it more even-handedly, but why would they?

    These tools exist to manage simpletons like Mr. Hack and they work (as we see here), they will only double-down on the biases and AI will enhance it before presenting it in a polished form. Beginnings are always the best, there is some give-and-take to get people hooked, but the potential for conformist-lying is unlimited. And they will do it...

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    As long as the power of the world is distributed multipolar the limits offer immunity. The Chinks and the Russians will make their own AIs and even rogues like Assange will do it. It doesn’t cost anything like what that tool Sam Altman would have us think.

    The Musk AI is no different from the Gates AI.

    They think they have it all figured out but it’s pretty obvious from a cursory examination of Unz’s sugar blues comments that the unknown unknowns and even the known unkowns but especially the man ain’t ever gonna know is an infinite half space.

  842. @emil nikola richard
    @A123


    https://twitter.com/woofknight/status/1852774904132665679

    Apparently my question was ambiguous.

    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?

    I presume there aren't any.

    Replies: @A123

    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?
     
    I presume there aren’t any.

    There are a number of successes using reverse osmosis. Here is an example: (1)

    The Sorek desalination located about 15km south of Tel Aviv, Israel, became operational in October 2013 with a seawater treatment capacity of 624,000m³/day, which makes it world’s biggest seawater desalination plant.

    The desalination facility uses seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) process providing water to Israel’s national water carrier system.

    Construction of the desalination plant began in January 2011 and was completed with a total investment of about $400m.

    One of the most important components of the plant is the use of an SWRO desalination process. SWRO was chosen as it was the most practicable option from technical and economical points of view.

    This facility provides about 15% of the drinking water for Israel.

    Reverse osmosis works, but it is expensive.

    PEACE 😇

    __________

    (1) https://www.water-technology.net/projects/sorek-desalination-plant/

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Your example is a dinky country with huge subsidies from the American taxpayers. This is piss-poor evidence at minimum. Do feel free to try and do better!

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

  843. Battle of the Nations
    Poland Czechia

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  844. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ritter knows that the USA produces many expensive and often overpriced armaments. He may be reminiscing over the large amount of industrial equipment and consumer goods which are produced overseas, but were once all made locally in the States within his lifetime.

    I was referring to one of his original rants where he falsely assumed that all US manufacturing has been off shored. For a military expert he should have known that US defense spending is ridiculously high and that bipartisan MIC support in part exists because it creates jobs in states like California.

    Once again the self-described military expert got it wrong.

    We manufacture all kinds of armaments. I think our defense spending is shameful and obviously a massive part of the deficit but production has expanded even further thanks to this war. Our main 155mm plant is literally operating 24/7. HIMARs shell production is at capacity and manufacturing lines are being expanded. Those contracts have all been signed and HIMARs is in fact backordered for 10 years. Putin's invasion has lifted defense profits to levels that were unimaginable in 2021. Patriots are backordered and F-35s were already behind schedule due to European demand.

    So Scott was just plain wrong......again. US defense manufacturing production is at a high and yet can't keep up with demand. Spending in NATO countries increased and much of it will go to the US. There are also two new NATO members that will be going on a shopping spree.

    The problem is that our overall US brain power and critical thinking skills are diminishing. One new risk for the Ukraine crisis is that some morons in the DOD will ask AI for a winning scenario in Ukraine and may childishly implement it with no regard to subtleties which the AI is not trained to account for.

    For all we know they are already feeding in every Russian position into a supercomputer that runs every possible strategy. As in direct sat feeds going into a computer that then spits out suggestions.

    We really don't know. But even in that scenario the Ukrainian generals would have the final say on what the computer suggests. The US is definitely not conducting the war and only advising. Putin lucked out that Ukraine ignored US/UK advice in the weeks prior to the war.

    I would assume the DOD at least has some type of video game looking console where a computer identifies a Russian target and suggests an action. Really not much different than AI used in chess games.

    So there is no reason to worry about some Skynet scenario if that is what you are getting at. It is possible that General AI could come up with a plan that seems appealing but ultimately fails. But the Ukrainian generals would still be responsible for enacting it.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I was not alluding to a Skynet scenario, but I think in a general sense that is a risk down the road a year or two.

    For Ukraine I think we may start to see people begin to view AI as an oracle. They may be too dumb to challenge the suggestions. I hope this is not true but it is consistent with a lot of the gibberish that has been coming out of the US military for the past 30 years.

    I think Ritter is clear on US production capability, both military and industrial. It is well known that many important programs are seriously over budget. The Navy has one shipbuilding debacle after another. I think the US and NATO have the same problem the Russians have: plenty of big ticket hardware but not enough non-flashy equipment to prosecute a peer to peer war. It seems the conflict has started to rectify this, but that doesn’t address the morale crushing woke policies.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I think the US and NATO have the same problem the Russians have: plenty of big ticket hardware but not enough non-flashy equipment to prosecute a peer to peer war.

    The shortages are due to neither side expecting a war that went back to WW1 trench warfare where you try to shell the enemy position into submission.

    Both sides expected Russia to dominate the skies and thus artillery wouldn't last very long. That has been the assumption since WW2. If you go up against Russia or the US you won't be able to sit around and lob shells all day. They will hunt down your artillery with jet fighters or carpet bomb your position into oblivion. That is why we don't maintain massive stocks of 155s. Air dominance was supposed to make the shell exchanges of WW1 a thing of the past.

    Well during the invasion we saw that the manpads are enough of a deterrent against constant sorties and especially helicopters. You also have the problem whereby Ukraine is just plain large and without a forward air base it's a long trip for any aircraft. With modern artillery they will pound a position and then hide. Which means by the time a Mig shows up the artillery has already been hidden.

    It seems the conflict has started to rectify this, but that doesn’t address the morale crushing woke policies.

    Not sure what you mean here. The HIMARs work as intended.....bigley. Did you expect them to be covered in rainbows? Maybe the cluster spread makes a triangle?

  845. @AP
    @Mikel


    “it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”

    It’s both sad and tedious having to debate these typical CNN/neocon talking points that usually go along with ‘if we don’t stop Putin now, we’ll have to fight him in Poland or the Balkans’.

    The demise of the Soviet Union was objectively a catastrophe for millions of Russians who fell into abject poverty or got stranded in newly formed foreign countries
     
    What part of the word geopolitical do you not understand? He was talking about territorial collapse and not the decreased well-being of people (which also occurred). He's motivated to regather those lands.

    It slaughtered a few 10,000s Chechens seeking independence

    I thought that in your world killing thousands of innocent civilians was a just price to pay in exchange for maintaining sovereignty over one’s territory and combating terrorists.
     
    It depends on degree. About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force; killing ~40,000 civilians in Chechnya (population 1.2 million in 1990) is a slaughter.

    If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.

    So is your approach to pre-emptively give Putin other countries in the hope that the new Eurasian power will be grateful in return?

    If Putin demanded control over Poland and Romania my approach would be to deny him his wish and indeed help those countries defend themselves so that he doesn’t march on Berlin and Paris next. But we are so far from that science-fiction scenario
     
    If Ukraine were to fall Moldova would be next. And a high chance of the Baltics following.

    BTW, Putin demanded that NATO leave Poland and Romania.

    Ukraine stands in the way of future plans.

    But it actually gets worse than that. The only semi-realistic scenario where Russia could be tempted to invade Poland is if tensions continue to accumulate and Russia gets much stronger by learning to combat NATO hardware and tactics in Ukraine.
     
    Ukrainians have been arguing that they need the arms to end the war quickly precisely so that Russia does not slowly learn how to fight better. The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine. They waited, gave restrictions, etc. It's as if the Biden administration is deliberately pursuing a policy of inoculating Russia against Western weapons and tactics. The Biden administration's cowardice is incredibly stupid.

    Sean attributes this to a deliberate strategy of denying Russia Ukraine while also building up Russia/spearing it defeat in the hope of a future alliance with Russia against China.

    What does Tulsi being a Russian tool have to do with Russiagate?

    It has everything to do with it.
     
    Are you suggesting that because Russiagate was fake, Russia does not interfere at all and that no American serves Russia?

    Oddly enough the most American (most historical), most traditional, most classically educated and least diverse regions of the USA (New England and the upper Midwest) favor Kamala.

    The American heartland is going to vote massively for Trump.
     
    Most of America's historical heartland is voting for Kamala. Of the original 13 colonies, only SC is solidly for Trump. And the historical Charleston area is not.

    Recently-settled, sparsely-populated Kansas may be a geographical heartland but it is not the historical heartland.

    The parts of America that are voting for Trump (outside of Appalachia) are the more rootless parts, recently settled, with no history, either semi-empty frontiers such as Montana or places with downtowns abandoned for strip malls. Trump fandom in these parts goes hand in hand with divorce and opiate abuse, they are all symptoms of an underlying problem. Perhaps a cry for help or rage by poorer segments of society, but for the most part not a reasoned decision made by thoughtful people. Latin American style politics.

    That old Puritans turned woke and even some Mormon cucks are voting against Trump is not a very strong endorsement of the candidate that wants to change the US radically with millions of third-worlders and citizenship for illegals.
     
    The "woke" Puritans have low divorce rates, functional families, high educational achievement, low crime rates, and treasure their history. Their "woke" public schools in New England, best in the world according to PISA, teach their kids Latin and classical Greek, Shakespeare, etc. Traditional Mormons are a heretical offshoot and their outpost out West. Both groups dislike Trump.

    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders who occupy the lower margins and whose kids and grandkids will be assimilated anyways. America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before. But it has not yet been ruled by a Latin American strongman-like populist demagogue.* That is new and more dangerous. Degradation at the top is far more dangerous than whatever happens at the bottom.

    Again, you don't feel that because you are not an American. And I'm not sure you are capable of understanding true attachment to a country and its traditions. Based on what you have written here at Unz, you have healthy sentimental feelings to your Basque homeland but don't care too much if it survives and have not taught your children your native language, you left. You then lived in Eastern Europe for awhile, lived in South America for awhile (never developing loyalty or attachment to either of those places either) before settling among the Mormons in Utah, apparently due to their homeland's spectacular natural beauty. Yet you have refused to adopt their religion even though they settled that land as their Zion, and refer to many of them as "cucks" and are essentially an outsider there. There's an ancient population of Basque shepherds in the Great Basin with deep roots in that region, mostly in Nevada, but you haven't mixed with those people much either.

    So by nature you seem to be rather rootless.

    A nomad. And I do not mean that as an insult, your background has advantages also.

    But it makes sense for you to view Trump's troublesome innovations as not as bad as Kamala's.

    for reasons I described consider Kamala to be the slightly less bad choice.

    There’s no denying you were brutally honest on this point. As you explained to Mr. Hack, you’re voting for Kamala because she’s more likely to be good for Ukraine than Trump
     
    As I stated, both Kamala and Trump are bad for America, but in different ways. Trump is slightly worse for America than is Kamala. But even if he were slightly better (he is not), I would still vote for whoever is better for Ukraine because Ukraine's situation is more critical than is the minor difference in goodness or badness for the USA between Trump and Kamala.


    * There have been comparisons to Andrew Jackson but that was 200 years ago, a different world.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard, @Mikel, @Sean

    I think Washington’s preference is for the Kremlin to become discouraged and give up, thereby showing the reassuring steadfastness and power of America to allies. If that doesn’t happen then Russia only sort of winning by keeping most of their gains since 2022 would be an acceptable result. I think it is clear that Ukraine really winning against an all out effort by Russia is considered undesirable because Russia would be run into the ground by such an effort to win by Putin. The trouble is that Ukraine always does surprisingly well so it is difficult to give Ukrainian just enough to stalemate (fool’s mate?) Russia and make them quit, without Ukraine overachieving and trouncing the Russians.

    As already mentioned, the only Ukrainian I know with a close relative in the Ukrainian army just had her 22 year old grandson killed in action. He had been a soldier for three years (think he was from Donbass in what is now Russia occupied territory but not an ethnic Russian). Doubt that is a coincidence it happening now. I suppose if one is cynica,l the idea in Washington may be if to wait until Ukraine is almost out of politically expendable manpower, then give Ukraine the long range missiles to hit supply and command and control hubs with to stop the Russia advance but ensure the Ukrainians are too weak to take advantage.

  846. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I have always been fascinated by the idea of making worm robots that could go into hard to reach areas and perform surgery on malignant tissue, or else implant new healthy tissues, like for instance insulin-producing cells.
     
    For real? Tell me more. I'm now at the age where being insulin resistant is almost a right of passage. Something like 70 million Americans are now either insulin resistant or have diabetes, but up to 50% don't even know it. These numbers are increasing at even higher, alarming rates, not only in the US, but around the world. Anybody out there know anything about drinking ACV (apple cider vinegar) to curb the glucose accumulating in the body, or using berberine supplements? I'd be interested in hearing about anybody's experiences with these two substances.

    Replies: @songbird

    For real? Tell me more

    Well, the worm approach is kind of my imagination. I feel like it probably would be useful for something, but maybe that is too much future tech.

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    My understanding is that it is conceptually easy to make cells that produce insulin. (Indeed that is how they manufacture it, though I think purifying it is complicated). I once saw an amateur on youtube swallow something that made his gut cells do it, but that approach is only temporary as gut cells normally slough off, as part of natural processes.

    The Chinese recently did something a bit different where they restored production at the islets of langerhorns. It is supposed to be a first, though I can’t understand why nobody did it before. First case was type II, but they recently duplicated it with type I.

    Here’s the original case:
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3263878/chinese-scientists-report-world-first-they-cure-patients-diabetes-cell-therapy

    I’ll have to try to read up more on the second case. I was always under the assumption that the reason they never did it was because the immune system would destroy any new cells, just as it had the old.

    I guess there are probably ways around it. But I’d like to know, if it is a problem and immunosuppressants are required, or if they engineered a different solution, or whether the attack is a one-time event that doesn’t repeat, if the tissue is re-established.

    Anybody out there know anything about drinking ACV (apple cider vinegar

    am not kidding, but I thought this was some kind of disinfectant. Like if you have a sore on your foot, bath it in ACV. I have never enjoyed vinegar personally, and thought of the countries where it is put on fries, as poorer.

  847. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I don't like the taste of vodka, so I hope that wine and brandy are good enough substitutes? I do buy filtered water though for when I'm cooking up a pot of soup ($.25/gallon). Have been using tap water for brewing coffee my whole life, and I'm still here?... I also enjoy drinking mineral water, but I recently bought some at $13/ six pack (a liter, I think per bottle). Not that long ago it was only $11/ six back. So its gone from $1.83 a bottle to $2.17 per bottle. Makes me scratch my head and wonder?...I know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America. Seems that a lot of water holes weren't very safe back then. For $13, I can buy a six pack of some really quality beer, or perhaps a 12 pack of plebian quality stuff at the supermarket?...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America.

    It is still that way in parts of the South.

    I’ve been in parts of Texas where you couldn’t even use the water to brush your teeth. It’s probably safe but smells and tastes awful. You start to understand why everyone drinks light beer with lunch.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 - 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms? It was considered normal to have a beer with a meal, apparently no one took advantage of this innovation and didn't overindulge. Well maybe they did eventually, for I think that this is no longer the case?. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

  848. Here is an interesting philosophical question: would it improve or diminish politics, if a ballot included pictures of candidates?

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    Now, we have all heard the story of the Nixon-JFK debate, where people listening on the radio thought Nixon won and people watching the TV thought JFK won.

    But I was thinking of something almost completely different: local politics.

    Often people run unopposed. Other times, there are collections of names, where the average person could not realistically follow them or differentiate them. Things like school board.

    Would putting physiognomy into things improve politics in some way, especially on the local end? Improve the information available to the voter?

    National politics, I assume they could easily cast good-looking people. Though OTOH, no one currently seems to be a looker. But I think it would be harder for local politics.

  849. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.


    Ukraine is not largely destroyed.
     
    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million...and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be? The 10 million left from the west, center and the east - and most are not coming back. Ukraine will be a lot smaller if it manages to exist at all, its economy will be a fraction of what it could have been.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies - the went from a strong, resource-rich 50 million people country with good relations with all its neighbors in 1991 to maybe half-that in a war they can't win and with very painful future. But keep your head in the sand, what else can you do?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.

    Well I’m not here to entertain Putin defenders and you are not in charge of the forum.

    Putin said that the war was needed to stop NATO from moving Eastward. He spoke of “missiles on the border” which is a threat of proximity and not population.

    Yes I realize that you and Russian state tv would like everyone to forget about that speech as the main goal has failed due to Finland joining NATO. Finland borders Russia and can add the “missile silos” that Putin described as an imminent threat. He never specified the type of silo or why they don’t exist in the Baltics but his words are public record.

    Feel free to argue that Putin was lying or confused in his original invasion speech. I don’t have a problem with that position.

    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million…and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be?

    I’m actually not in charge of the war. But you should write Putin and ask how many Russian families need to lose a son or husband before realizing this war is a mistake.

    I have said this war was a mistake from the beginning and that it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East. There are abandoned cities in Russia and Putin could have used this as an opportunity to fill them. At this rate it would have been cheaper to give them a million dollars.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies

    It’s a disaster for both countries. I’m sure Putin would go back in time if he could to 2021 when the world respected the Russian military and didn’t view them as a bunch of drunk washing machine raiders.

    Russia will exit this war with a more Muslim population and the Russian military will not recover its former prestige. The US defense industry will have record profits. Those are certainties.

    Islam and the US defense industry are undeniable beneficiaries of this war.

    Look at this defense stock Raytheon from the past year:
    https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/RTX.N

    That’s a 50% gain for shareholders.

    Putin is really the gift that keeps giving for the US defense industry. They’re making a ton of money by simply running their factories. No new business plan needed, just let Putin continue his death machine and the money comes flowing in. I hope they send him a thank-you card. Putin has made literal millionaires in the US with his war. Mostly 1% types that had stock in the defense industry. The rich get richer and the Russian poor end up dead in a ditch. Keep cheering this war along with US defense industry executives. Putin isn’t creative enough to really stick it to the West and could only come up with a lazy 1930s funnel invasion of his Slavic neighbor. Maybe the North Korean troops will help turn things around for him.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Nobody cares about your defense industry...why don't you just issue the 'dollars' and give each shareholder and worker $100k? Same result and people don't have to do anything and save the material resources. Every 'dollar' that is given to defense contractors is borrowed. So you are either sticking your kids with a huge bill or the very concept of dollar as money will eventually be undermined.


    it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East.

     

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing - that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again. How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in? I am sure many would take it. How about that? Or offer $100k to every southern white left to move to Montana? You seem quite an idiot with some serious criminal ideas.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down. That's the way it works, but stick your head in the sand and repeat 'but Finland!'...At some point the reality of what is happening will catch up with you.

    This was a catastrophic error by NATO and they know it now - look at their faces as they wiggle, panic and beg for a 'ceasefire'...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  850. @A123
    @emil nikola richard


    What is one existing real world desalinization plant that is on the cover of desalinization finance glossy brochures? What does success look like?
     
    I presume there aren’t any.

     
    There are a number of successes using reverse osmosis. Here is an example: (1)

    The Sorek desalination located about 15km south of Tel Aviv, Israel, became operational in October 2013 with a seawater treatment capacity of 624,000m³/day, which makes it world’s biggest seawater desalination plant.

    The desalination facility uses seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) process providing water to Israel’s national water carrier system.

    Construction of the desalination plant began in January 2011 and was completed with a total investment of about $400m.

    One of the most important components of the plant is the use of an SWRO desalination process. SWRO was chosen as it was the most practicable option from technical and economical points of view.
     
    This facility provides about 15% of the drinking water for Israel.

    Reverse osmosis works, but it is expensive.

    PEACE 😇

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XHuT1tcX0
    __________

    (1) https://www.water-technology.net/projects/sorek-desalination-plant/

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Your example is a dinky country with huge subsidies from the American taxpayers. This is piss-poor evidence at minimum. Do feel free to try and do better!

    • Replies: @A123
    @emil nikola richard

    The system produces fresh water for over 1,000,000 people every day. What criteria are you judging by?

    My example is from a strong country that has a successful alliance with America. The situation will get even better under Trump's 2nd term.

    Please feel free to accept objectively accurate evidence!

    PEACE 😇

    , @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Desalination is waiting for nuclear power which is too cheap to meter. If grid scale battery prices drop another factor of 3X, some desert areas will be there in the not so distant future.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  851. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I was not alluding to a Skynet scenario, but I think in a general sense that is a risk down the road a year or two.

    For Ukraine I think we may start to see people begin to view AI as an oracle. They may be too dumb to challenge the suggestions. I hope this is not true but it is consistent with a lot of the gibberish that has been coming out of the US military for the past 30 years.

    I think Ritter is clear on US production capability, both military and industrial. It is well known that many important programs are seriously over budget. The Navy has one shipbuilding debacle after another. I think the US and NATO have the same problem the Russians have: plenty of big ticket hardware but not enough non-flashy equipment to prosecute a peer to peer war. It seems the conflict has started to rectify this, but that doesn't address the morale crushing woke policies.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I think the US and NATO have the same problem the Russians have: plenty of big ticket hardware but not enough non-flashy equipment to prosecute a peer to peer war.

    The shortages are due to neither side expecting a war that went back to WW1 trench warfare where you try to shell the enemy position into submission.

    Both sides expected Russia to dominate the skies and thus artillery wouldn’t last very long. That has been the assumption since WW2. If you go up against Russia or the US you won’t be able to sit around and lob shells all day. They will hunt down your artillery with jet fighters or carpet bomb your position into oblivion. That is why we don’t maintain massive stocks of 155s. Air dominance was supposed to make the shell exchanges of WW1 a thing of the past.

    Well during the invasion we saw that the manpads are enough of a deterrent against constant sorties and especially helicopters. You also have the problem whereby Ukraine is just plain large and without a forward air base it’s a long trip for any aircraft. With modern artillery they will pound a position and then hide. Which means by the time a Mig shows up the artillery has already been hidden.

    It seems the conflict has started to rectify this, but that doesn’t address the morale crushing woke policies.

    Not sure what you mean here. The HIMARs work as intended…..bigley. Did you expect them to be covered in rainbows? Maybe the cluster spread makes a triangle?

  852. Saw a woman today with a child in tow carrying a burden on her head, on the bridge over the highway.

    Am not saying it is bad technique (my understanding is that it used to be common in the West like 100 years ago or so.). But it definitely is pretty alien to the mind of a normal American today.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Watch out for your cats and dogs and gila monsters

  853. @songbird
    Saw a woman today with a child in tow carrying a burden on her head, on the bridge over the highway.

    Am not saying it is bad technique (my understanding is that it used to be common in the West like 100 years ago or so.). But it definitely is pretty alien to the mind of a normal American today.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Watch out for your cats and dogs and gila monsters

    • LOL: songbird
  854. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    know that drinking beer instead of water, was an acceptable substitute back in the day in both Europe and America.

    It is still that way in parts of the South.

    I've been in parts of Texas where you couldn't even use the water to brush your teeth. It's probably safe but smells and tastes awful. You start to understand why everyone drinks light beer with lunch.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 – 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms? It was considered normal to have a beer with a meal, apparently no one took advantage of this innovation and didn’t overindulge. Well maybe they did eventually, for I think that this is no longer the case?. 🙂

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    I didn't know that but I have known Germans and Irish that were fine with 16/17 year olds having light beer.

    , @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 – 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms?
     
    It is still the case in Canada.

    When I was a teenager at an exchange program in a German gymnasium, there was a place to get beer right next door and sometimes we would have one during lunch. I think the drinking age there was 15 or 16. Obviously nobody got drunk during the school day.

    Replies: @songbird

  855. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Your example is a dinky country with huge subsidies from the American taxpayers. This is piss-poor evidence at minimum. Do feel free to try and do better!

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

    The system produces fresh water for over 1,000,000 people every day. What criteria are you judging by?

    My example is from a strong country that has a successful alliance with America. The situation will get even better under Trump’s 2nd term.

    Please feel free to accept objectively accurate evidence!

    PEACE 😇

  856. @emil nikola richard
    @A123

    Your example is a dinky country with huge subsidies from the American taxpayers. This is piss-poor evidence at minimum. Do feel free to try and do better!

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

    Desalination is waiting for nuclear power which is too cheap to meter. If grid scale battery prices drop another factor of 3X, some desert areas will be there in the not so distant future.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @QCIC

    Buffett and his peers are buying Uruguay aquifers which is a bet against cheap easy desalinization. My preferred technology is shellfish that can be genetically wired to imbibe salt water and excrete fresh. Unfortunately I don't have the disposable income of the Israeli government to put it all together yet.

    Did you see the thing on the internet about knights jousting snails was a medieval antisemitic trope because stinking decomposing Tyrian purple snails were the poison the Jews preferred when they poisoned wells?

    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/4748ee_463e1efe82f54bb38b6f87289ee29537~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_383,h_350,al_c,q_80,enc_auto/4748ee_463e1efe82f54bb38b6f87289ee29537~mv2.jpeg

  857. LMAO. They say Badendoch has a Nigerian passport.

    I genuinely am puzzled as to why someone would have one. Avoiding terrorists, maybe?

  858. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 - 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms? It was considered normal to have a beer with a meal, apparently no one took advantage of this innovation and didn't overindulge. Well maybe they did eventually, for I think that this is no longer the case?. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    I didn’t know that but I have known Germans and Irish that were fine with 16/17 year olds having light beer.

  859. Is tonight the night when the Kamal pushes Sleepy Joe down the stairs?

  860. @songbird
    Will AP move to Canada, if Trump gets in?

    Replies: @AP

    He probably won’t, but why would I do that?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    He probably won’t,
     
    Oh, I don't know... I think there may be room in America for one last hurrah! (I hope you have prepared yourself.)

    but why would I do that?
     
    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.

    (Surely, lasting damage is more related to the open borders/DIE candidate Kamala?)

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in. Not to say that suggests a move to Canada - traffic goes in the opposite direction. But I think you may have been a bit hypocritical.

    Someone born in America typically doesn't move countries in their career but states - the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries. This is the American version of nomadism. And many Americans are nomads in this way.

    You didn't seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely - not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven's sake! She doesn't even speak fluent English. How many people in the Manchester area were born in NH? Exceedingly few, I'd say.

    Replies: @AP

  861. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 - 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms? It was considered normal to have a beer with a meal, apparently no one took advantage of this innovation and didn't overindulge. Well maybe they did eventually, for I think that this is no longer the case?. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 – 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms?

    It is still the case in Canada.

    When I was a teenager at an exchange program in a German gymnasium, there was a place to get beer right next door and sometimes we would have one during lunch. I think the drinking age there was 15 or 16. Obviously nobody got drunk during the school day.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    Obviously nobody got drunk during the school day.
     
    Have seen German kids with nip bottles at school.

    Never saw this in America, probably due to progressive overreaction against drunk driving. (I.e. people know it would be severely punished.). But some Americans did go to school dances drunk.
  862. @AP
    @songbird

    He probably won't, but why would I do that?

    Replies: @songbird

    He probably won’t,

    Oh, I don’t know… I think there may be room in America for one last hurrah! (I hope you have prepared yourself.)

    but why would I do that?

    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.

    (Surely, lasting damage is more related to the open borders/DIE candidate Kamala?)

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in. Not to say that suggests a move to Canada – traffic goes in the opposite direction. But I think you may have been a bit hypocritical.

    Someone born in America typically doesn’t move countries in their career but states – the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries. This is the American version of nomadism. And many Americans are nomads in this way.

    You didn’t seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely – not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven’s sake! She doesn’t even speak fluent English. How many people in the Manchester area were born in NH? Exceedingly few, I’d say.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.
     
    He'll be a step downward for America, but I'll be fine anyways. I'll save money on taxes and I have some crypto.

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in.
     
    I spent over a year in Vegas and a little more time in Moscow but the rest of my life I have lived in 2 regions in North America that are not too far apart geographically and not terribly dissimilar culturally from one another. I enjoy travelling and have travelled a lot (~40 states and Canadian provinces, half of Europe), but that doesn't count as nomadism.

    Someone born in America typically doesn’t move countries in their career but states – the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries
     
    Culture is more important than distance in terms of rootlessness.

    For example, the nicer parts of Great Lakes areas such as Chicago's northern lakeside suburbs or the Grosse Pointes or Ann Arbor in Michigan are a lot like Northeastern cities, many were even settled by Yankees. There is actually a string of Yankee-settled towns through the middle of Michigan, some have liberal arts colleges as in New England. The northeastern part of Ohio once belonged to Connecticut, and was settled by Connecticut Revolutionary War veterans who were given free land grants.

    Quebec is a lot closer by distance to New England than those places in Illinois, Ohio or Michigan, but so what? Moving between them would not qualify as being nomadic - not like moving from Spain to Poland to South America to Utah.


    You didn’t seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely – not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven’s sake!
     
    You support my point.

    The pro-Kamala Democrat opposed by this Chinese immigrant has deep roots in the region:

    Goodlander was born on November 4, 1986, and raised in Nashua, New Hampshire.[3][4] She is a member of the Tamposi family, a well-connected political family in New Hampshire; her grandfather, Samuel Tamposi, was a Republican real estate developer who partially owned the Boston Red Sox, and her mother, Betty Tamposi, was a Republican member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives before serving as Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs under President George H. W. Bush.[5] She attended Groton School, graduating in 2005.

    Her grandfather was born in NH in 1924 to Romanian immigrants.

    The old WASP families, with the deepest roots, who had been mostly "country club conservatives", have also mostly gone (moderate) Democrat in the last 25 years or so. They support Kamala.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

  863. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Did you know that it was not uncommon yet 40 – 50 years ago to be able to order a beer on tap at many colleges and universities, at least out east, within their respective lunchrooms?
     
    It is still the case in Canada.

    When I was a teenager at an exchange program in a German gymnasium, there was a place to get beer right next door and sometimes we would have one during lunch. I think the drinking age there was 15 or 16. Obviously nobody got drunk during the school day.

    Replies: @songbird

    Obviously nobody got drunk during the school day.

    Have seen German kids with nip bottles at school.

    Never saw this in America, probably due to progressive overreaction against drunk driving. (I.e. people know it would be severely punished.). But some Americans did go to school dances drunk.

  864. Should we take bets on if Igor Girkin can survive the war without an accidental falling or drowning?

    I would say that he is very accident prone at the moment.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    TL;DR:

    I wonder if Igor mentioned the 1100 Russian glide bombs which Volodymyr was kvetching about last week?

    BTW, the low temperature prediction for Kiev tomorrow is 29 F.

    I suspect Strelkov's current purpose is to keep Western-sponsored Atlanticist factions in Russia on the defensive politically. A secondary purpose may be to entrap hardcore Russian nationalists who may or may not be funded by your colleagues at the CIA.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    The "war"? How about to the end of the year? In any case, an interesting and telling clip.

  865. @songbird
    @AP


    He probably won’t,
     
    Oh, I don't know... I think there may be room in America for one last hurrah! (I hope you have prepared yourself.)

    but why would I do that?
     
    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.

    (Surely, lasting damage is more related to the open borders/DIE candidate Kamala?)

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in. Not to say that suggests a move to Canada - traffic goes in the opposite direction. But I think you may have been a bit hypocritical.

    Someone born in America typically doesn't move countries in their career but states - the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries. This is the American version of nomadism. And many Americans are nomads in this way.

    You didn't seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely - not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven's sake! She doesn't even speak fluent English. How many people in the Manchester area were born in NH? Exceedingly few, I'd say.

    Replies: @AP

    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.

    He’ll be a step downward for America, but I’ll be fine anyways. I’ll save money on taxes and I have some crypto.

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in.

    I spent over a year in Vegas and a little more time in Moscow but the rest of my life I have lived in 2 regions in North America that are not too far apart geographically and not terribly dissimilar culturally from one another. I enjoy travelling and have travelled a lot (~40 states and Canadian provinces, half of Europe), but that doesn’t count as nomadism.

    Someone born in America typically doesn’t move countries in their career but states – the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries

    Culture is more important than distance in terms of rootlessness.

    For example, the nicer parts of Great Lakes areas such as Chicago’s northern lakeside suburbs or the Grosse Pointes or Ann Arbor in Michigan are a lot like Northeastern cities, many were even settled by Yankees. There is actually a string of Yankee-settled towns through the middle of Michigan, some have liberal arts colleges as in New England. The northeastern part of Ohio once belonged to Connecticut, and was settled by Connecticut Revolutionary War veterans who were given free land grants.

    Quebec is a lot closer by distance to New England than those places in Illinois, Ohio or Michigan, but so what? Moving between them would not qualify as being nomadic – not like moving from Spain to Poland to South America to Utah.

    You didn’t seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely – not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven’s sake!

    You support my point.

    The pro-Kamala Democrat opposed by this Chinese immigrant has deep roots in the region:

    Goodlander was born on November 4, 1986, and raised in Nashua, New Hampshire.[3][4] She is a member of the Tamposi family, a well-connected political family in New Hampshire; her grandfather, Samuel Tamposi, was a Republican real estate developer who partially owned the Boston Red Sox, and her mother, Betty Tamposi, was a Republican member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives before serving as Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs under President George H. W. Bush.[5] She attended Groton School, graduating in 2005.

    Her grandfather was born in NH in 1924 to Romanian immigrants.

    The old WASP families, with the deepest roots, who had been mostly “country club conservatives”, have also mostly gone (moderate) Democrat in the last 25 years or so. They support Kamala.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Goodlander is also kind of cute:

    https://www.seacoastonline.com/gcdn/authoring/2019/06/21/NPOH/ghows-SO-8bd72b27-a228-5ded-e053-0100007f5f01-54238945.jpeg?width=1200&disable=upscale&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    Yes, these Boston commissars have been wrecking New Hampshire.

    Do the Tamposi have a gypsy background? Some of the pictures of the women on line show gypsy faces based on my limited exposure.

    Replies: @AP

  866. @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Saw a clip of that temple fight. Didn't even listen to the audio, and I knew it was Canada.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    No comment from my end.

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: songbird
  867. @AP
    @songbird


    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.
     
    He'll be a step downward for America, but I'll be fine anyways. I'll save money on taxes and I have some crypto.

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in.
     
    I spent over a year in Vegas and a little more time in Moscow but the rest of my life I have lived in 2 regions in North America that are not too far apart geographically and not terribly dissimilar culturally from one another. I enjoy travelling and have travelled a lot (~40 states and Canadian provinces, half of Europe), but that doesn't count as nomadism.

    Someone born in America typically doesn’t move countries in their career but states – the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries
     
    Culture is more important than distance in terms of rootlessness.

    For example, the nicer parts of Great Lakes areas such as Chicago's northern lakeside suburbs or the Grosse Pointes or Ann Arbor in Michigan are a lot like Northeastern cities, many were even settled by Yankees. There is actually a string of Yankee-settled towns through the middle of Michigan, some have liberal arts colleges as in New England. The northeastern part of Ohio once belonged to Connecticut, and was settled by Connecticut Revolutionary War veterans who were given free land grants.

    Quebec is a lot closer by distance to New England than those places in Illinois, Ohio or Michigan, but so what? Moving between them would not qualify as being nomadic - not like moving from Spain to Poland to South America to Utah.


    You didn’t seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely – not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven’s sake!
     
    You support my point.

    The pro-Kamala Democrat opposed by this Chinese immigrant has deep roots in the region:

    Goodlander was born on November 4, 1986, and raised in Nashua, New Hampshire.[3][4] She is a member of the Tamposi family, a well-connected political family in New Hampshire; her grandfather, Samuel Tamposi, was a Republican real estate developer who partially owned the Boston Red Sox, and her mother, Betty Tamposi, was a Republican member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives before serving as Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs under President George H. W. Bush.[5] She attended Groton School, graduating in 2005.

    Her grandfather was born in NH in 1924 to Romanian immigrants.

    The old WASP families, with the deepest roots, who had been mostly "country club conservatives", have also mostly gone (moderate) Democrat in the last 25 years or so. They support Kamala.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    Goodlander is also kind of cute:

  868. @QCIC
    @emil nikola richard

    Desalination is waiting for nuclear power which is too cheap to meter. If grid scale battery prices drop another factor of 3X, some desert areas will be there in the not so distant future.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Buffett and his peers are buying Uruguay aquifers which is a bet against cheap easy desalinization. My preferred technology is shellfish that can be genetically wired to imbibe salt water and excrete fresh. Unfortunately I don’t have the disposable income of the Israeli government to put it all together yet.

    Did you see the thing on the internet about knights jousting snails was a medieval antisemitic trope because stinking decomposing Tyrian purple snails were the poison the Jews preferred when they poisoned wells?

  869. @Wokechoke
    Korean troops in Kursk Oblast…discuss.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail, @songbird

    Would not have thought it remotely possible, but Ukraine is actually living the plot of the remake of Red Dawn where they spent a fortune turning Chinese troops into Norks, using CGI.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    The thing I like best about the Kursk project is the Kagan Institute Study of War has 1 blue pixel on their current situation map showing its magnificence. It's kind of like my dick in the picture I sent to Lauren Southern. ****

    **** Hypothetical if I sent Lauren Southern a picture which in the real world I did not do.

    Replies: @songbird

  870. Am sure Trump wouldn’t have Liz Cheney executed by firing squad.

    But rather sent up to the mountains and down to the countryside.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington: "Hey look, it's a bird!"

    Mister Target Practice was not nearly as cool as the wild Whittington Brothers from Lubbock.

    Replies: @songbird

  871. @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Would not have thought it remotely possible, but Ukraine is actually living the plot of the remake of Red Dawn where they spent a fortune turning Chinese troops into Norks, using CGI.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    The thing I like best about the Kursk project is the Kagan Institute Study of War has 1 blue pixel on their current situation map showing its magnificence. It’s kind of like my dick in the picture I sent to Lauren Southern. ****

    **** Hypothetical if I sent Lauren Southern a picture which in the real world I did not do.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Southern was not my favorite conservathot by a longshot. My favorite ones scrubbed themselves from the internet, maybe after being inundated with d-pics.

    And then there is Britney Pettibone who married Sellner. IMO, she wasn't edgy enough to be interesting, but at least she was more honorable/traditional than Southern and showed some fortitude.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  872. @John Johnson
    Should we take bets on if Igor Girkin can survive the war without an accidental falling or drowning?

    https://youtu.be/9Vk8qjEVb4Q?t=5

    I would say that he is very accident prone at the moment.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    TL;DR:

    I wonder if Igor mentioned the 1100 Russian glide bombs which Volodymyr was kvetching about last week?

    BTW, the low temperature prediction for Kiev tomorrow is 29 F.

    I suspect Strelkov’s current purpose is to keep Western-sponsored Atlanticist factions in Russia on the defensive politically. A secondary purpose may be to entrap hardcore Russian nationalists who may or may not be funded by your colleagues at the CIA.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    TL;DR:

    It's a 6 minute video and the Igor section isn't more than 2 minutes.

    But thanks for confirming that you are trying to stay in a bubble.

    BTW, the low temperature prediction for Kiev tomorrow is 29 F.

    Yes and low temperatures favor urban defenders. Makes sleeping in a ditch much tougher.

    I suspect Strelkov’s current purpose is to keep Western-sponsored Atlanticist factions in Russia on the defensive politically. A secondary purpose may be to entrap hardcore Russian nationalists who may or may not be funded by your colleagues at the CIA.

    Igor is a Russian nationalist who supports the war but views Putin as inept and unwilling to do what is needed.

    I think it just wonderful that Putin ignores him. Both he and Prigozhin were right about Shoigu.

    In a corrupt system the competent are normally ignored. In Russia they can fall down stairs or out of windows after shooting themselves.

  873. @AP
    @songbird


    Well, naturally I am trolling, but on issue: you seem to have expressed exaggerated and strange concern that Trump will forever damage American politics.
     
    He'll be a step downward for America, but I'll be fine anyways. I'll save money on taxes and I have some crypto.

    Also, when you were calling Mikel a nomad, it made me wonder how many states you have lived in.
     
    I spent over a year in Vegas and a little more time in Moscow but the rest of my life I have lived in 2 regions in North America that are not too far apart geographically and not terribly dissimilar culturally from one another. I enjoy travelling and have travelled a lot (~40 states and Canadian provinces, half of Europe), but that doesn't count as nomadism.

    Someone born in America typically doesn’t move countries in their career but states – the distances can be practically the same as someone switching countries
     
    Culture is more important than distance in terms of rootlessness.

    For example, the nicer parts of Great Lakes areas such as Chicago's northern lakeside suburbs or the Grosse Pointes or Ann Arbor in Michigan are a lot like Northeastern cities, many were even settled by Yankees. There is actually a string of Yankee-settled towns through the middle of Michigan, some have liberal arts colleges as in New England. The northeastern part of Ohio once belonged to Connecticut, and was settled by Connecticut Revolutionary War veterans who were given free land grants.

    Quebec is a lot closer by distance to New England than those places in Illinois, Ohio or Michigan, but so what? Moving between them would not qualify as being nomadic - not like moving from Spain to Poland to South America to Utah.


    You didn’t seem to acknowledge this when you were portraying New England as some heritage area politically for Kamala. It is not remotely – not in the way that demographics can shift politics. The Republican congressional candidate for NH was born in Sichuan for heaven’s sake!
     
    You support my point.

    The pro-Kamala Democrat opposed by this Chinese immigrant has deep roots in the region:

    Goodlander was born on November 4, 1986, and raised in Nashua, New Hampshire.[3][4] She is a member of the Tamposi family, a well-connected political family in New Hampshire; her grandfather, Samuel Tamposi, was a Republican real estate developer who partially owned the Boston Red Sox, and her mother, Betty Tamposi, was a Republican member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives before serving as Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs under President George H. W. Bush.[5] She attended Groton School, graduating in 2005.

    Her grandfather was born in NH in 1924 to Romanian immigrants.

    The old WASP families, with the deepest roots, who had been mostly "country club conservatives", have also mostly gone (moderate) Democrat in the last 25 years or so. They support Kamala.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    Yes, these Boston commissars have been wrecking New Hampshire.

    Do the Tamposi have a gypsy background? Some of the pictures of the women on line show gypsy faces based on my limited exposure.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    Do the Tamposi have a gypsy background? Some of the pictures of the women on line show gypsy faces based on my limited exposure.
     
    No, they do not look like gypsies.

    But you know who does? Orban.

    About the Tamposi family's pre-American origins:

    https://farsharotu.org/sam-tamposi-a-man-who-made-a-difference/

    Nasi Tambose, Sam Tamposi’s father, emigrated to the United States in 1907, when he was 16 years old. Born in a village in Avdella, Macedonia, he grew up in a territory where the borders constantly changed. He was considered a Vlach, a mix of Bulgarian and Romanian. Ethnic differences in that region, much like today, could be bloody and fatal: Turkish soldiers murdered Nasi Tambose’s father.

    After coming to America, Nasi Tambose moved his family from New York City to a farm in Nashua. Born in 1924, Sam Tamposi grew up baling hay, milking cows and caring for vegetables.

  874. @songbird
    Am sure Trump wouldn't have Liz Cheney executed by firing squad.

    But rather sent up to the mountains and down to the countryside.

    Replies: @QCIC

    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington: “Hey look, it’s a bird!”

    Mister Target Practice was not nearly as cool as the wild Whittington Brothers from Lubbock.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington
     
    The wiki article says, he had only met Cheney three times over the coarse of decades and wasn't his friend.

    And that Cheney never apologized!

    Replies: @QCIC

  875. @QCIC
    @AP

    Yes, these Boston commissars have been wrecking New Hampshire.

    Do the Tamposi have a gypsy background? Some of the pictures of the women on line show gypsy faces based on my limited exposure.

    Replies: @AP

    Do the Tamposi have a gypsy background? Some of the pictures of the women on line show gypsy faces based on my limited exposure.

    No, they do not look like gypsies.

    But you know who does? Orban.

    About the Tamposi family’s pre-American origins:

    https://farsharotu.org/sam-tamposi-a-man-who-made-a-difference/

    Nasi Tambose, Sam Tamposi’s father, emigrated to the United States in 1907, when he was 16 years old. Born in a village in Avdella, Macedonia, he grew up in a territory where the borders constantly changed. He was considered a Vlach, a mix of Bulgarian and Romanian. Ethnic differences in that region, much like today, could be bloody and fatal: Turkish soldiers murdered Nasi Tambose’s father.

    After coming to America, Nasi Tambose moved his family from New York City to a farm in Nashua. Born in 1924, Sam Tamposi grew up baling hay, milking cows and caring for vegetables.

  876. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    TL;DR:

    I wonder if Igor mentioned the 1100 Russian glide bombs which Volodymyr was kvetching about last week?

    BTW, the low temperature prediction for Kiev tomorrow is 29 F.

    I suspect Strelkov's current purpose is to keep Western-sponsored Atlanticist factions in Russia on the defensive politically. A secondary purpose may be to entrap hardcore Russian nationalists who may or may not be funded by your colleagues at the CIA.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    TL;DR:

    It’s a 6 minute video and the Igor section isn’t more than 2 minutes.

    But thanks for confirming that you are trying to stay in a bubble.

    BTW, the low temperature prediction for Kiev tomorrow is 29 F.

    Yes and low temperatures favor urban defenders. Makes sleeping in a ditch much tougher.

    I suspect Strelkov’s current purpose is to keep Western-sponsored Atlanticist factions in Russia on the defensive politically. A secondary purpose may be to entrap hardcore Russian nationalists who may or may not be funded by your colleagues at the CIA.

    Igor is a Russian nationalist who supports the war but views Putin as inept and unwilling to do what is needed.

    I think it just wonderful that Putin ignores him. Both he and Prigozhin were right about Shoigu.

    In a corrupt system the competent are normally ignored. In Russia they can fall down stairs or out of windows after shooting themselves.

  877. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I told you not to bore us with Finland, it is not what the war is about. It is just your escape from reality since you are losing the war in Ukraine.

    Well I'm not here to entertain Putin defenders and you are not in charge of the forum.

    Putin said that the war was needed to stop NATO from moving Eastward. He spoke of "missiles on the border" which is a threat of proximity and not population.

    Yes I realize that you and Russian state tv would like everyone to forget about that speech as the main goal has failed due to Finland joining NATO. Finland borders Russia and can add the "missile silos" that Putin described as an imminent threat. He never specified the type of silo or why they don't exist in the Baltics but his words are public record.

    Feel free to argue that Putin was lying or confused in his original invasion speech. I don't have a problem with that position.

    Ukraine lost 10 million people. 10 million…and 20% of territory with about 1/3 of its resources. How much more destroyed do you want it to be?

    I'm actually not in charge of the war. But you should write Putin and ask how many Russian families need to lose a son or husband before realizing this war is a mistake.

    I have said this war was a mistake from the beginning and that it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East. There are abandoned cities in Russia and Putin could have used this as an opportunity to fill them. At this rate it would have been cheaper to give them a million dollars.

    This has been an absolute disaster for the Ukies

    It's a disaster for both countries. I'm sure Putin would go back in time if he could to 2021 when the world respected the Russian military and didn't view them as a bunch of drunk washing machine raiders.

    Russia will exit this war with a more Muslim population and the Russian military will not recover its former prestige. The US defense industry will have record profits. Those are certainties.

    Islam and the US defense industry are undeniable beneficiaries of this war.

    Look at this defense stock Raytheon from the past year:
    https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/RTX.N

    That's a 50% gain for shareholders.

    Putin is really the gift that keeps giving for the US defense industry. They're making a ton of money by simply running their factories. No new business plan needed, just let Putin continue his death machine and the money comes flowing in. I hope they send him a thank-you card. Putin has made literal millionaires in the US with his war. Mostly 1% types that had stock in the defense industry. The rich get richer and the Russian poor end up dead in a ditch. Keep cheering this war along with US defense industry executives. Putin isn't creative enough to really stick it to the West and could only come up with a lazy 1930s funnel invasion of his Slavic neighbor. Maybe the North Korean troops will help turn things around for him.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Nobody cares about your defense industry…why don’t you just issue the ‘dollars’ and give each shareholder and worker $100k? Same result and people don’t have to do anything and save the material resources. Every ‘dollar’ that is given to defense contractors is borrowed. So you are either sticking your kids with a huge bill or the very concept of dollar as money will eventually be undermined.

    it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East.

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing – that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again. How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in? I am sure many would take it. How about that? Or offer $100k to every southern white left to move to Montana? You seem quite an idiot with some serious criminal ideas.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down. That’s the way it works, but stick your head in the sand and repeat ‘but Finland!’…At some point the reality of what is happening will catch up with you.

    This was a catastrophic error by NATO and they know it now – look at their faces as they wiggle, panic and beg for a ‘ceasefire’…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in?
     
    Russia has much more empty land, and a greater need for settlers. If the 15,000 or so new Koreans don't get killed within Ukraine, they can begin a settlement of "new Korea".

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

     

    This will never happen and its funny to hear you repeat this mantra of yours one thousand times, as if the more that you repeat it the likelier that this false narrative will come true. But hey, it's your time to waste, and if it makes you feel any better, go for it.

    Just listen to Strelkov's latest opinions about how things are going within Russia (#870) and its abilities to continue its war efforts. Here's a Russian nationalist on record admitting that it's all but over for your megalomaniac Putler . :-(

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nobody cares about your defense industry…why don’t you just issue the ‘dollars’ and give each shareholder and worker $100k?

    It's not my industry and I'm on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

    I'm pointing out who wins and loses in this war.

    Putin's fans like to think of him as in some glorius war against the west when it is western shareholders with stock in the defense industry that are getting rich. The sector clearly beat the market thanks to Putin. The stock I cited makes the Patriot defense system. It's not at all speculation. These companies are getting rich from the war.

    Some Russian girl will cry herself to sleep because her dad will never return while an amoral Western flash trader will make millions from this war. That is what it looks like.

    Every ‘dollar’ that is given to defense contractors is borrowed.

    The US will make a net profit from the war due to LNG exports. Most of the military aid is old stock that was scheduled to be decommissioned.

    The West is not a single economy. Germany is definitely an economic loser in the war but not the US. The US is in fact now the #1 exporter of LNG. It would be even higher but Biden capped it for climate reasons.

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing – that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again.

    Offering an alternative to Ukraine is not ethnic cleansing.

    Igor Girkin said that the separatist movement was a Russian operation and didn't actually have the support of the majority. Offering payments and housing would be providing an alternative to a dissatisfied minority. No one would be forcing them to leave.

    In any case my plan would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So maybe re-think your own terms of ethnic cleansing and who is doing it. It has already been reported that Putin has been moving in Central Asian Muslims into Donbas to replace the Slavs that were sent to the front.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

    Boy is that wishful thinking. Z bloggers are questioning the war and our old pal Igor says it is a disaster.

    The Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war. They've already had to phone a friend in North Korea to help with Kursk. The Putin bloggers seem unhinged over this development.

    Direct your frustrations at Putin and not those of us that called this war stupid from the beginning.

    Replies: @Beckow

  878. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    The thing I like best about the Kursk project is the Kagan Institute Study of War has 1 blue pixel on their current situation map showing its magnificence. It's kind of like my dick in the picture I sent to Lauren Southern. ****

    **** Hypothetical if I sent Lauren Southern a picture which in the real world I did not do.

    Replies: @songbird

    Southern was not my favorite conservathot by a longshot. My favorite ones scrubbed themselves from the internet, maybe after being inundated with d-pics.

    And then there is Britney Pettibone who married Sellner. IMO, she wasn’t edgy enough to be interesting, but at least she was more honorable/traditional than Southern and showed some fortitude.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Greta Therber is in RT protesting the Georgia elections. Can't tell anything about her titties in that outfit.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/607012-greta-thunberg-protest-election-georgia/

    Replies: @songbird

  879. @QCIC
    @songbird

    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington: "Hey look, it's a bird!"

    Mister Target Practice was not nearly as cool as the wild Whittington Brothers from Lubbock.

    Replies: @songbird

    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington

    The wiki article says, he had only met Cheney three times over the coarse of decades and wasn’t his friend.

    And that Cheney never apologized!

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Cheney said, "Capisce?!"

  880. @John Johnson
    Should we take bets on if Igor Girkin can survive the war without an accidental falling or drowning?

    https://youtu.be/9Vk8qjEVb4Q?t=5

    I would say that he is very accident prone at the moment.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    The “war”? How about to the end of the year? In any case, an interesting and telling clip.

  881. @songbird
    @QCIC


    You can get a detailed plan from Harry Whittington
     
    The wiki article says, he had only met Cheney three times over the coarse of decades and wasn't his friend.

    And that Cheney never apologized!

    Replies: @QCIC

    Cheney said, “Capisce?!”

    • LOL: songbird
  882. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Nobody cares about your defense industry...why don't you just issue the 'dollars' and give each shareholder and worker $100k? Same result and people don't have to do anything and save the material resources. Every 'dollar' that is given to defense contractors is borrowed. So you are either sticking your kids with a huge bill or the very concept of dollar as money will eventually be undermined.


    it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East.

     

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing - that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again. How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in? I am sure many would take it. How about that? Or offer $100k to every southern white left to move to Montana? You seem quite an idiot with some serious criminal ideas.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down. That's the way it works, but stick your head in the sand and repeat 'but Finland!'...At some point the reality of what is happening will catch up with you.

    This was a catastrophic error by NATO and they know it now - look at their faces as they wiggle, panic and beg for a 'ceasefire'...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in?

    Russia has much more empty land, and a greater need for settlers. If the 15,000 or so new Koreans don’t get killed within Ukraine, they can begin a settlement of “new Korea”.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

    This will never happen and its funny to hear you repeat this mantra of yours one thousand times, as if the more that you repeat it the likelier that this false narrative will come true. But hey, it’s your time to waste, and if it makes you feel any better, go for it.

    Just listen to Strelkov’s latest opinions about how things are going within Russia (#870) and its abilities to continue its war efforts. Here’s a Russian nationalist on record admitting that it’s all but over for your megalomaniac Putler . 🙁

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Russia has much more empty land, and a greater need for settlers.
     
    So does Canada and Australia. Is it ok to offer white Englishmen $100k to move? Then more Indo-Pakis can settle in England. It is the same as what that fanatic J-Johnson suggested for Russians in Donbas...what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    ...it’s all but over
     
    I observe what is going on and Ukraine is losing the war. If you don't see it it doesn't change the reality. Do you still think Kiev will win? Even Zelko doesn't or NY Times. (But you seem to follow some guy named 'Strelkov', is he the one from Dr.Zhivago?)
  883. Is it true that like 85% of Japanese airspace is strictly off limits to Jap civilians and controlled by the USAAF?

    Sounds weirdly similar to Chinese mainland and Chinese military control. I wonder if it explains the bullet trains in Japan, just as it explains Chinese trains.
    _______
    Unrelated political joke:

    [MORE]

  884. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    Southern was not my favorite conservathot by a longshot. My favorite ones scrubbed themselves from the internet, maybe after being inundated with d-pics.

    And then there is Britney Pettibone who married Sellner. IMO, she wasn't edgy enough to be interesting, but at least she was more honorable/traditional than Southern and showed some fortitude.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Greta Therber is in RT protesting the Georgia elections. Can’t tell anything about her titties in that outfit.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/607012-greta-thunberg-protest-election-georgia/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    When Greta made her first appearance on the scene, I thought she was very odd-looking, but I had trouble classifying it.

    How to break it down in terms of neoteny vs. mutant-ugly? I thought maybe, like 90/10

    But now that she is older, I would reverse that and go 10% neotenous and 90% mutant-ugly. I feel like she is aging very fast. Though, it could just be my imagination.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

  885. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in?
     
    Russia has much more empty land, and a greater need for settlers. If the 15,000 or so new Koreans don't get killed within Ukraine, they can begin a settlement of "new Korea".

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

     

    This will never happen and its funny to hear you repeat this mantra of yours one thousand times, as if the more that you repeat it the likelier that this false narrative will come true. But hey, it's your time to waste, and if it makes you feel any better, go for it.

    Just listen to Strelkov's latest opinions about how things are going within Russia (#870) and its abilities to continue its war efforts. Here's a Russian nationalist on record admitting that it's all but over for your megalomaniac Putler . :-(

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Russia has much more empty land, and a greater need for settlers.

    So does Canada and Australia. Is it ok to offer white Englishmen $100k to move? Then more Indo-Pakis can settle in England. It is the same as what that fanatic J-Johnson suggested for Russians in Donbas…what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    …it’s all but over

    I observe what is going on and Ukraine is losing the war. If you don’t see it it doesn’t change the reality. Do you still think Kiev will win? Even Zelko doesn’t or NY Times. (But you seem to follow some guy named ‘Strelkov’, is he the one from Dr.Zhivago?)

  886. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Nobody cares about your defense industry...why don't you just issue the 'dollars' and give each shareholder and worker $100k? Same result and people don't have to do anything and save the material resources. Every 'dollar' that is given to defense contractors is borrowed. So you are either sticking your kids with a huge bill or the very concept of dollar as money will eventually be undermined.


    it would be cheaper to give every Donbas separatist a $100k check and home in the East.

     

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing - that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again. How about we offer every white Englishman $100k to get the hell out of England so more Indo-Pakis can move in? I am sure many would take it. How about that? Or offer $100k to every southern white left to move to Montana? You seem quite an idiot with some serious criminal ideas.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down. That's the way it works, but stick your head in the sand and repeat 'but Finland!'...At some point the reality of what is happening will catch up with you.

    This was a catastrophic error by NATO and they know it now - look at their faces as they wiggle, panic and beg for a 'ceasefire'...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Nobody cares about your defense industry…why don’t you just issue the ‘dollars’ and give each shareholder and worker $100k?

    It’s not my industry and I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

    I’m pointing out who wins and loses in this war.

    Putin’s fans like to think of him as in some glorius war against the west when it is western shareholders with stock in the defense industry that are getting rich. The sector clearly beat the market thanks to Putin. The stock I cited makes the Patriot defense system. It’s not at all speculation. These companies are getting rich from the war.

    Some Russian girl will cry herself to sleep because her dad will never return while an amoral Western flash trader will make millions from this war. That is what it looks like.

    Every ‘dollar’ that is given to defense contractors is borrowed.

    The US will make a net profit from the war due to LNG exports. Most of the military aid is old stock that was scheduled to be decommissioned.

    The West is not a single economy. Germany is definitely an economic loser in the war but not the US. The US is in fact now the #1 exporter of LNG. It would be even higher but Biden capped it for climate reasons.

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing – that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again.

    Offering an alternative to Ukraine is not ethnic cleansing.

    Igor Girkin said that the separatist movement was a Russian operation and didn’t actually have the support of the majority. Offering payments and housing would be providing an alternative to a dissatisfied minority. No one would be forcing them to leave.

    In any case my plan would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So maybe re-think your own terms of ethnic cleansing and who is doing it. It has already been reported that Putin has been moving in Central Asian Muslims into Donbas to replace the Slavs that were sent to the front.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

    Boy is that wishful thinking. Z bloggers are questioning the war and our old pal Igor says it is a disaster.

    The Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war. They’ve already had to phone a friend in North Korea to help with Kursk. The Putin bloggers seem unhinged over this development.

    Direct your frustrations at Putin and not those of us that called this war stupid from the beginning.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.
     
    Fighting a stupid war with Russia to put bases on its borders is just the way to do it, right?

    LNG exports...
     
    I checked the numbers and US is benefiting, but not as much as Norway, Qatar, Algeria...and Russia, the new LNG powerhouse. The biggest winner is Turkey, biggest loser is Germany, CE vassals, and UK. Ukraine and the Baltics are not even playing any more, they are out of the game...:)

    Offering payments and housing...No one would be forcing them to leave.
     
    Riiiight...have you been paying attention when Kiev was bombing them since 2014 and killed 3k civilians...how do you define 'forcing' in your neck of the woods?

    Answer my question: if Russians in Donbas why not the whites in England? Offer them $100k to move to Canada "voluntarily" and make some space for more Indo-Pakis who need it more. Or whites in US, how about Montana? You don't see the absurd criminal idiocy of what you suggest?


    Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war.
     
    Russia is winning, what more do you want? US lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria...but Russia is winning in Ukraine. Like with WW2 you will bellyache about how Germany 'could have won' or that 50k Anglos in Normandy in 1944 (!) "defeated Germany" - anything but to admit that Russia won. It must be driving you nuts, you hate them so much and they beat you again and again...so all that's left are lies and insults.

    You called Iowa for Harris yesterday, you were giddy with hope - well Trump won Iowa 56-42 (not even close), those 'factual polls' you use are a bit suspect. But Harris won in DC with 92% - North Korea levels of support in the capital and suburbs. Don't you think that is a problem? Do you have a 'central blob' with uber-liberal warmongers that sits on the country like an out-of-control parasite? 92%...think about it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  887. @Beckow
    @Gerard1234


    ...Financially its not a problem to extend the war for another 20 years by US... it is only the personnel
     
    There are enough Ukies left - a few million potential recruits. They don't need more. What is more likely is a gradual and then sudden collapse in the willingness to fight. There has been self-selection with the more motivated fighting up till now. But unless a country has a massive demographic boom and a constant new supply of maturing men the will inevitably tapers off. So no "20 years" is possible.

    Financially it is one thing to spend $200 billion on a kooky but mildly feasible plan, but to keep on doing it with no chance of success is absurd. The idea was always that Ukraine's riches will pay for it - Ukies will repay the West by giving away their resources. That is now unrealistic. These men are not rich because they flush money down the drain on losing crusades...We already see the pull-back.

    Robert Fico is the ultimate realist, he understands how this will go and how it will end. So does Orban and the Austrians. It is the morons from far away who don't get it - for them it is just lines on the map and undigested cherry-picked history narratives. See AP, Mr. Hacks... on how their minds simply can't shake off the deep brain-washing. They see that it is not working but the brainwash is too deep, they will scream nonsense and then scuttle away. Quite sad...

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    I can’t see the standard lazy, fat American pig/blood-libel “elite” wanting this settled by the time of the 250th anniversary of Pindostan. Actually, among other factors I think it could be a motivating factor for them to force the continuation of SMO.
    It would be cheap tv “entertainment” for some Americans with them not being the cannon fodder that the ukronazis are. The gutter part of the American mentality would welcome a big confrontation at the time of the 250th anniversary, particularly if the losses for them are , mostly unaccounted for anyway financial losses and equipment losses.

    Not that I support what is happening, but I do welcome very much the principle from Netanyahu of saying f**k you to the American election and Israel doing their actions independent to this freakshow. Disappointment that Iran haven’t co-ordinated their so-called response to Israel to time with the election. As for us – if the progress is so good that our high positioned officials have not been interested in commentating on the US election ( such as strongly criticising Trump for ensuring the SMO happened because of his either incompetence or bad actions during his presidency), then that is fine. IF though the failure to say anything aggressive or do something is because of some BS concern about not wanting to disrupt the US election – then it is a shameful action by ourselves. It’s appears a recurring pattern of the last 60 years of history for countries to give too much attention to the US election ahead of the objective.

    One of the biggest ways of changing the world, other than reducing the power of the dollar, is saying f**k you to the pindostan election.

  888. @AP
    @Mikel


    It depends on degree.

    No, it doesn’t.
     

    Of course it does. A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    It depends entirely on one’s moral compass.

     

    In my moral compass killing 40,000 is much worse than killing 2,600.

    Not only in terms of the numbers themselves, but to the fact that this extreme disparity points to other things, such as motive and goals.

    A war policy that results in 2,600 civilian deaths in a territory with 6 million people must in its essence be fundamentally different from a war policy that results in 40,000 civilian deaths in a territory of 1.2 million people. Putin killed about 15 times more Chechens in absolute terms and 75 times more Chechens in per capita terms when crushing the rebellion in Chechnya, than the Ukrainians did in Donbas. This obviously reflects the fact that Putin held much less regard for human life than did Kiev's leaders.


    If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state,
     
    Are you suggesting that these people were some sort of a deliberate sacrifice?

    Did you know that civilians (and animals) die in any war, even if they are not deliberately targeted for death? That is why it is better not to start one, as the Russians did in Donbas in 2014.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders

    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she’s better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.
     

    I'll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc. An American Hitler.* I didn't know it because I wasn't familiar with Vance, but Vance was saying the same thing about Trump around that time. I did blame Republican elites for neglecting the needs of those lower class white voters; they should have been more paternalistic and less greedy.

    I helpfully pointed out that Trump won the places where people die of prescription drug overdoses:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/saturday-elections-open-thread/#comment-1346761

    I had voted for Kasich in the Republican primary - a very competent technocrat who was architect of America's balanced budget during the Clinton years (Clinton was forced to go along because the Republicans controlled congress).

    But I was very pleasantly surprised to see that the 2016-2020 Trump administration had competent managers and made a lot of good policy. Clearly better than Obama's had been. So I voted for Trump in 2020. If Trump had the same team now that he did in 2020 I would have without hesitation voted for him this election.

    Unfortunately, most of Trump's competent advisors are gone and have been replaced by a bunch of clowns like RFK Jr. Even worse, those who had made Trump's prior administration a success are mostly advising voters not to vote for Trump.

    So I didn't.

    So don't imply that my voting for Kamala is some sort of recent opportunism driven solely by Ukraine policy.


    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.

    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music.
     

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn't regard illiterate Irish as "quintessentially European" lol (should I post their cartoons?) and illiterate Sicilian peasants of the 19th century had as much in common with the Renaissance as Mexicans. There are plenty of baroque cathedrals in Mexico, and Mexico was producing its own baroque music.

    Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn’t make it had to return home.
     
    These are negative factors, though illegals don't have the same access to welfare, at least in some states. This may contribute to them being such hard workers.

    And they do assimilate. They and their descendants become English-speaking, and many even vote Republican. Especially in places where white people vote Republican, such as Texas or Florida. Not to the same degree as white people, but moving in that direction. But not in California, where White people vote Democrat too.

    American Latinos tend to assimilate to America's working class.

    By the way, Steve Sailer has shown that the turning point against the GOP in California was not because of Mexicans but because Washington shut down a lot of the defense industry. You, too, don't like the defense industry very much. Helping Ukraine benefits it, of course.


    you don’t feel that because you are not an American

    But didn’t you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger’s opinions on US politics
     

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.

    You shopped around various countries before eventually coming here from Latin America.


    your background has advantages also

    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don’t have anything to compare it to so it’s easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it’s much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland.
     

    Indeed. As a rootless wanderer and outsider, you can examine different places like a consumer examines brands of cars, dispassionately assessing strengths and weaknesses (for you). Novelty and lack of tradition don't mean much to do, because you can't feel them - it isn't your country, and you rejected your own traditions anyways (you are neither religious nor did you transmit your language to your children). It's a powerful position to be in, there are advantages to it of course.

    Meanwhile, an American such as myself is simply disturbed by the very untraditional un-American politics of Trump, a cry for help and a cry of rage of the lower less successful segments of American society that looks like something from South of the Border rather than what America should have.

    *Which, as I pointed out, was not like the German one in the most infamous aspects.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.

    For the umpteenth time but likely not the last, if Unz inexplicably keeps this blog alive:

    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.

    c) From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house, you may not kill anyone when you shoot at the room where the robber is with your wife but in any civilized society you’d be locked up for that action. There might be some US district with too much frontier spirit left where you wouldn’t but it doesn’t change anything. If there is anything like a Final Judgement or a Karma, not just those who consciously bombed civilian areas knowing that they were killing innocent people will have to respond. Those who supported the killers will too. People like Putin and Poroshenko don’t exist in a moral vacuum.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions or, indeed, not only how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine but also how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US on the same pro-Ukraine policy grounds.

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn’t regard illiterate Irish as “quintessentially European” lol

    But they are. It doesn’t matter what ignorant people from the 19th century, Anglo or not, thought. Being on the westernmost fringe of Europe, they have less non-European ancestry than basically anyone else and and, in fact, a more similar genetic admixture to the Anglos than anyone else too.

    should I post their cartoons?

    You can post whatever you please but if I were you, I wouldn’t. There’s no shortage of cartoons mocking Ukrainians, often in pretty bad taste, and they’re not from times of mass illiteracy everywhere, but from today.

    The Irish didn’t have to beg to be admitted into the EU (Common Market then). They were admitted on their own merits and then went on to improve their living standards like no other European country has done in such a short time. These days there is more Germans and Scandinavians migrating to Ireland for the good job opportunities than the other way around. What’s even more remarkable is that the Irish did this pretty much in spite of the EU, not because of it. Their low corporate tax, business-friendly policies were a native initiative supported by the electorate and often opposed by Brussels.

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.

    I first visited the US at age 17 and I had also concluded that it was the most fascinating country in the world much earlier than that. But I didn’t have Arnold’s muscles (it wasn’t his brain or even his acting skills what brought him here) and never thought of emigrating illegally so I had to wait a very long time. Arnold didn’t exactly invent the wheel when he figured out that the country of Hollywood, rock-n-roll music and the magnificent landscapes of the movies everyone watched since childhood was the coolest place to live in. Several billion had already come up with the same idea.

    It wasn’t by any means a coincidence that in my 20s I decided to move to Argentina-Chile. Very similar latitudes, climates and landscapes. At the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th for many Europeans it was not too obvious if the US-Canada or Argentina offered better prospects. Millions tried their luck in the Southern Cone.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue, as fellow Californian David Cole has often explained:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-trumpbart-primary/

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    What’s more interesting to me is that occasionally an epochal villain doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

    Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. This vile, corrupt, nanny-diddling piece of Eurotrash single-handedly killed red California, the 1990s California that passed the most restrictive anti-illegal-immigration state-level law in history, banned affirmative action, defeated a “Green New Deal,” mandated English-only in classrooms, passed the most hard-assed Three Strikes law ever, and strengthened the death penalty via three different ballot initiatives that specifically increased penalties for the most beloved crimes of our black population (carjacking, cop-killing, and drive-bys).

    Then, in 2003, here came Schwarzy, hijacking a recall effort in which he was not supposed to be the GOP candidate.

    And he ran as the standard-bearer of 1990s red California.

    His platform? Immigration! In between those incomprehensible guttural sounds of his, the message was clear: “Close the border glauuuurgh…deportations day one ghelhaurrrgh!”

    He won in a landslide. And once in office, he quickly forgot about immigration and devoted his time to partnering with leftists to pardon/commute “criminals of color.” This verminous monster was so arrogant about not caring about policy, he openly admitted it: “My strength was not policy in 2003. My strength was personality, was…me. When it got into the [policy] details, I rather used comedy, used humor.” Like when he suggested that fellow recall candidate Arianna Huffington’s head should be “put in a toilet.”

    This prick, who ran—and won—on immigration, has such a bloated ego that he needed, and still needs, to tell himself he won not on policy, but on zingers.

    Hence why he could completely abandon his immigration agenda. Hence why he ended his tenure betraying his base on immigration and crime because his “strength isn’t policy but personality.”

    Sound familiar? This is why my 2016 columns about Trump were skeptical. I’d seen this script play out before.

    Schwarzenegger was epochal because he took the hopes and dreams of red California and betrayed them while at the same time enabling continued demographic shift via immigration, and anarcho-tyranny via the dismantling of law and order, so that here we are now, California 2023, and the numbers simply don’t exist anymore for a genuinely rightist GOP to win the governorship, in part because of immigration, and in part because 1990s red Californians have fled to escape crime, homeless street-shitters, and high taxes.

    Schwarzenegger’s Nazi dad failed to take Leningrad. How proud he’d be that his son single-handedly took down the most populous state in the U.S.

    And he did more than that. Schwarzenegger’s “zingers” are the reason Arianna Huffington founded the Huffington Post (yes, she credits the abuse she took from Schwarzenegger for prompting her to move left and launch her site). So those zingers inadvertently ushered in the age of shit internet journalism.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.
     
    False.

    He certainly had the equipment to do to populated areas what Russia did to Chechnya and Eastern Ukraine. If he wanted to he would have easily "achieved" far more 2,600 civilian deaths.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.
     
    And I am talking about policy.

    Putin's policy regarding conducting the war resulted in 40,000 civilian deaths out of a population of 1.2 million.

    Poroshenko's resulted in 2,600 civilian deaths out of 6 million.

    Such a massive discrepancy clearly indicates that each leader had a different approach to the separatist war they were confronted with, reflecting a different morality.

    From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house
     
    I'll remind you that the Russian invaders started killing people and were also killing people, so defending Ukraine from them was not simply about property or territory. Thank God they did not break into major cities but were bottled up in Donbas.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions
     
    Indeed, this an eastern European forum. It is called the "Russian reaction blog." Our host considers Ukraine to be part of the Russian sphere, and Ukraine is in conflict with Russia. I am on topic here.

    how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine
     
    Not only. I explained it already. Both Trump and Kamala are bad, in very different ways, but on balance I consider Trump to be slightly worse. That he is more risky for Ukraine is further reason for me not to vote for him.

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today...

    I'm just not a risk-taker. I figure, 90% chance Trump will be worse than Biden has been for Ukraine, 10% chance he will be a lot better than Biden. But some Ukrainians who are risk-takers, do support Trump. Biden is painfully weak. Kamala will almost certainly be at least a little bit better than he is, though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US
     
    I have deep historical roots in that country (my family has had a political and cultural impact there) so I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there, which I will use in the next elections.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue
     
    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    Isn't that a policy you support? Cutting down America's defense industry?

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  889. @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Greta Therber is in RT protesting the Georgia elections. Can't tell anything about her titties in that outfit.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/607012-greta-thunberg-protest-election-georgia/

    Replies: @songbird

    When Greta made her first appearance on the scene, I thought she was very odd-looking, but I had trouble classifying it.

    How to break it down in terms of neoteny vs. mutant-ugly? I thought maybe, like 90/10

    But now that she is older, I would reverse that and go 10% neotenous and 90% mutant-ugly. I feel like she is aging very fast. Though, it could just be my imagination.

    • Replies: @emil nikola richard
    @songbird

    Her mom is the most famous opera singer in Sweden. They have plastic surgeons in Sweden. Greta will get herself transhumanized soon and nobody will be able to recognize her without one of those time lapse transform Daily Mail stories.

  890. @Mikel
    @AP


    A policy that results in 2,600 deaths is not in the same category as one that results in 40,000 deaths.
     
    For the umpteenth time but likely not the last, if Unz inexplicably keeps this blog alive:

    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I'm not talking about the amount of suffering, I'm talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.

    c) From a moral perspective it's not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one's moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house, you may not kill anyone when you shoot at the room where the robber is with your wife but in any civilized society you'd be locked up for that action. There might be some US district with too much frontier spirit left where you wouldn't but it doesn't change anything. If there is anything like a Final Judgement or a Karma, not just those who consciously bombed civilian areas knowing that they were killing innocent people will have to respond. Those who supported the killers will too. People like Putin and Poroshenko don't exist in a moral vacuum.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.
     
    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions or, indeed, not only how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she'll be better for Ukraine but also how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US on the same pro-Ukraine policy grounds.

    The Anglos of the time certainly didn’t regard illiterate Irish as “quintessentially European” lol
     
    But they are. It doesn't matter what ignorant people from the 19th century, Anglo or not, thought. Being on the westernmost fringe of Europe, they have less non-European ancestry than basically anyone else and and, in fact, a more similar genetic admixture to the Anglos than anyone else too.

    should I post their cartoons?
     
    You can post whatever you please but if I were you, I wouldn't. There's no shortage of cartoons mocking Ukrainians, often in pretty bad taste, and they're not from times of mass illiteracy everywhere, but from today.

    The Irish didn't have to beg to be admitted into the EU (Common Market then). They were admitted on their own merits and then went on to improve their living standards like no other European country has done in such a short time. These days there is more Germans and Scandinavians migrating to Ireland for the good job opportunities than the other way around. What's even more remarkable is that the Irish did this pretty much in spite of the EU, not because of it. Their low corporate tax, business-friendly policies were a native initiative supported by the electorate and often opposed by Brussels.

    He is probably much less rootless than you are. He moved to the USA at age 21 (he said it was his childhood dream to come here) and has stayed here since.
     
    I first visited the US at age 17 and I had also concluded that it was the most fascinating country in the world much earlier than that. But I didn't have Arnold's muscles (it wasn't his brain or even his acting skills what brought him here) and never thought of emigrating illegally so I had to wait a very long time. Arnold didn't exactly invent the wheel when he figured out that the country of Hollywood, rock-n-roll music and the magnificent landscapes of the movies everyone watched since childhood was the coolest place to live in. Several billion had already come up with the same idea.

    It wasn't by any means a coincidence that in my 20s I decided to move to Argentina-Chile. Very similar latitudes, climates and landscapes. At the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th for many Europeans it was not too obvious if the US-Canada or Argentina offered better prospects. Millions tried their luck in the Southern Cone.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue, as fellow Californian David Cole has often explained:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-trumpbart-primary/



    What’s more interesting to me is that occasionally an epochal villain doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

    Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. This vile, corrupt, nanny-diddling piece of Eurotrash single-handedly killed red California, the 1990s California that passed the most restrictive anti-illegal-immigration state-level law in history, banned affirmative action, defeated a “Green New Deal,” mandated English-only in classrooms, passed the most hard-assed Three Strikes law ever, and strengthened the death penalty via three different ballot initiatives that specifically increased penalties for the most beloved crimes of our black population (carjacking, cop-killing, and drive-bys).

    Then, in 2003, here came Schwarzy, hijacking a recall effort in which he was not supposed to be the GOP candidate.

    And he ran as the standard-bearer of 1990s red California.

    His platform? Immigration! In between those incomprehensible guttural sounds of his, the message was clear: “Close the border glauuuurgh…deportations day one ghelhaurrrgh!”

    He won in a landslide. And once in office, he quickly forgot about immigration and devoted his time to partnering with leftists to pardon/commute “criminals of color.” This verminous monster was so arrogant about not caring about policy, he openly admitted it: “My strength was not policy in 2003. My strength was personality, was…me. When it got into the [policy] details, I rather used comedy, used humor.” Like when he suggested that fellow recall candidate Arianna Huffington’s head should be “put in a toilet.”

    This prick, who ran—and won—on immigration, has such a bloated ego that he needed, and still needs, to tell himself he won not on policy, but on zingers.

    Hence why he could completely abandon his immigration agenda. Hence why he ended his tenure betraying his base on immigration and crime because his “strength isn’t policy but personality.”

    Sound familiar? This is why my 2016 columns about Trump were skeptical. I’d seen this script play out before.

    Schwarzenegger was epochal because he took the hopes and dreams of red California and betrayed them while at the same time enabling continued demographic shift via immigration, and anarcho-tyranny via the dismantling of law and order, so that here we are now, California 2023, and the numbers simply don’t exist anymore for a genuinely rightist GOP to win the governorship, in part because of immigration, and in part because 1990s red Californians have fled to escape crime, homeless street-shitters, and high taxes.

    Schwarzenegger’s Nazi dad failed to take Leningrad. How proud he’d be that his son single-handedly took down the most populous state in the U.S.

    And he did more than that. Schwarzenegger’s “zingers” are the reason Arianna Huffington founded the Huffington Post (yes, she credits the abuse she took from Schwarzenegger for prompting her to move left and launch her site). So those zingers inadvertently ushered in the age of shit internet journalism.


    Replies: @AP

    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.

    False.

    He certainly had the equipment to do to populated areas what Russia did to Chechnya and Eastern Ukraine. If he wanted to he would have easily “achieved” far more 2,600 civilian deaths.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.

    And I am talking about policy.

    Putin’s policy regarding conducting the war resulted in 40,000 civilian deaths out of a population of 1.2 million.

    Poroshenko’s resulted in 2,600 civilian deaths out of 6 million.

    Such a massive discrepancy clearly indicates that each leader had a different approach to the separatist war they were confronted with, reflecting a different morality.

    From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house

    I’ll remind you that the Russian invaders started killing people and were also killing people, so defending Ukraine from them was not simply about property or territory. Thank God they did not break into major cities but were bottled up in Donbas.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions

    Indeed, this an eastern European forum. It is called the “Russian reaction blog.” Our host considers Ukraine to be part of the Russian sphere, and Ukraine is in conflict with Russia. I am on topic here.

    how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine

    Not only. I explained it already. Both Trump and Kamala are bad, in very different ways, but on balance I consider Trump to be slightly worse. That he is more risky for Ukraine is further reason for me not to vote for him.

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m just not a risk-taker. I figure, 90% chance Trump will be worse than Biden has been for Ukraine, 10% chance he will be a lot better than Biden. But some Ukrainians who are risk-takers, do support Trump. Biden is painfully weak. Kamala will almost certainly be at least a little bit better than he is, though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US

    I have deep historical roots in that country (my family has had a political and cultural impact there) so I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there, which I will use in the next elections.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    Isn’t that a policy you support? Cutting down America’s defense industry?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there
     
    LOL. Even if it means voting against the interest of Ukraine, I'm sure.

    Well assimilated Ukrainian-American Spartz has a good lead in Indiana with 30% of the votes counted. Good omen and a hope that at least Congress will keep having people fighting the important battles. Not that you would know how she has voted other than on the Ukraine package issue.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.
     
    How much is that? A return to Ukraine's 1991 borders?

    Replies: @AP

    , @John Johnson
    @AP

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I'm really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I'd be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn't vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn't leave California.

    They went Democrat from a Hispanic-White guilt alliance. The problem for California is that Whites move out there to be single and stay unmarried. It's LALA land. The other problem is that California Republicans are cowards. They're just rich Whites that want to golf and avoid taxes. They have never cared about guns.

    Replies: @AP

  891. @AP
    @Mikel


    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.
     
    False.

    He certainly had the equipment to do to populated areas what Russia did to Chechnya and Eastern Ukraine. If he wanted to he would have easily "achieved" far more 2,600 civilian deaths.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.
     
    And I am talking about policy.

    Putin's policy regarding conducting the war resulted in 40,000 civilian deaths out of a population of 1.2 million.

    Poroshenko's resulted in 2,600 civilian deaths out of 6 million.

    Such a massive discrepancy clearly indicates that each leader had a different approach to the separatist war they were confronted with, reflecting a different morality.

    From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house
     
    I'll remind you that the Russian invaders started killing people and were also killing people, so defending Ukraine from them was not simply about property or territory. Thank God they did not break into major cities but were bottled up in Donbas.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions
     
    Indeed, this an eastern European forum. It is called the "Russian reaction blog." Our host considers Ukraine to be part of the Russian sphere, and Ukraine is in conflict with Russia. I am on topic here.

    how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine
     
    Not only. I explained it already. Both Trump and Kamala are bad, in very different ways, but on balance I consider Trump to be slightly worse. That he is more risky for Ukraine is further reason for me not to vote for him.

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today...

    I'm just not a risk-taker. I figure, 90% chance Trump will be worse than Biden has been for Ukraine, 10% chance he will be a lot better than Biden. But some Ukrainians who are risk-takers, do support Trump. Biden is painfully weak. Kamala will almost certainly be at least a little bit better than he is, though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US
     
    I have deep historical roots in that country (my family has had a political and cultural impact there) so I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there, which I will use in the next elections.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue
     
    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    Isn't that a policy you support? Cutting down America's defense industry?

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there

    LOL. Even if it means voting against the interest of Ukraine, I’m sure.

    Well assimilated Ukrainian-American Spartz has a good lead in Indiana with 30% of the votes counted. Good omen and a hope that at least Congress will keep having people fighting the important battles. Not that you would know how she has voted other than on the Ukraine package issue.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there

    LOL. Even if it means voting against the interest of Ukraine, I’m sure.
     

    The interests of Ukraine and those of that country are far more congruent even than those of Ukraine and the USA.

    Well assimilated Ukrainian-American Spartz
     
    She sells herself consistently and is good at it.

    Not that you would know how she has voted other than on the Ukraine package issue.
     
    I'm not in Indiana and her background inspires interest on this issue that other Indiana politicians do not (I do not know how any of the others stand on Ukraine).
  892. @songbird
    @emil nikola richard

    When Greta made her first appearance on the scene, I thought she was very odd-looking, but I had trouble classifying it.

    How to break it down in terms of neoteny vs. mutant-ugly? I thought maybe, like 90/10

    But now that she is older, I would reverse that and go 10% neotenous and 90% mutant-ugly. I feel like she is aging very fast. Though, it could just be my imagination.

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    Her mom is the most famous opera singer in Sweden. They have plastic surgeons in Sweden. Greta will get herself transhumanized soon and nobody will be able to recognize her without one of those time lapse transform Daily Mail stories.

  893. @AP
    @Mikel


    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.
     
    False.

    He certainly had the equipment to do to populated areas what Russia did to Chechnya and Eastern Ukraine. If he wanted to he would have easily "achieved" far more 2,600 civilian deaths.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.
     
    And I am talking about policy.

    Putin's policy regarding conducting the war resulted in 40,000 civilian deaths out of a population of 1.2 million.

    Poroshenko's resulted in 2,600 civilian deaths out of 6 million.

    Such a massive discrepancy clearly indicates that each leader had a different approach to the separatist war they were confronted with, reflecting a different morality.

    From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house
     
    I'll remind you that the Russian invaders started killing people and were also killing people, so defending Ukraine from them was not simply about property or territory. Thank God they did not break into major cities but were bottled up in Donbas.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions
     
    Indeed, this an eastern European forum. It is called the "Russian reaction blog." Our host considers Ukraine to be part of the Russian sphere, and Ukraine is in conflict with Russia. I am on topic here.

    how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine
     
    Not only. I explained it already. Both Trump and Kamala are bad, in very different ways, but on balance I consider Trump to be slightly worse. That he is more risky for Ukraine is further reason for me not to vote for him.

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today...

    I'm just not a risk-taker. I figure, 90% chance Trump will be worse than Biden has been for Ukraine, 10% chance he will be a lot better than Biden. But some Ukrainians who are risk-takers, do support Trump. Biden is painfully weak. Kamala will almost certainly be at least a little bit better than he is, though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US
     
    I have deep historical roots in that country (my family has had a political and cultural impact there) so I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there, which I will use in the next elections.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue
     
    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    Isn't that a policy you support? Cutting down America's defense industry?

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    How much is that? A return to Ukraine’s 1991 borders?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    The good case scenario for Ukraine is that he offers Putin a deal, Putin in his stupidity and pride refuses it, and Trump responds by giving Ukraine more aid than Biden ever did (Biden only gave Ukraine 10% of what was promised). Trump bragged that he had threatened to bomb Moscow if Russia moved into Ukraine.

    Trump would be willing to give Russia parts of Ukraine and no Ukrainian NATO membership, but would not be willing to hand Ukraine over to Russia, that would make him look weak and would be a major strategic setback (even Vance said he expects Ukraine to be well fortified - so Russia's demand for a demilitarized Ukraine would be a no go). Of course this means that Ukraine, due to preserving its independence, can some time in the future join NATO, so Putin may not agree - the only way to guarantee no NATO membership ever is for Putin to fully absorb Ukraine. So if Putin offends Trump by refusing the deal preserving Ukrainian independence, then Trump will be obligated to put the hammer down on Russia that Biden refused to do, demonstrating to everyone (the Chinese, the North Koreans) that although he is willing to make deals, he is not weak and will not intimidated.

    I think the above scenario is unlikely and some sort of cope, but the chances of it happening are not zero. Some Ukrainians who voted for Trump think it will happen. Trump did kill the Iranian general and did use the US military to wipe out a couple hundred Wagner troops, after all. And he bragged about threatening Putin.

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow, @JL

  894. @AP
    @Mikel


    a) Poroshenko was forced to stop killing civilians wholesale. The number he killed was by no means the number he was willing to kill to achieve his objectives.
     
    False.

    He certainly had the equipment to do to populated areas what Russia did to Chechnya and Eastern Ukraine. If he wanted to he would have easily "achieved" far more 2,600 civilian deaths.

    b) Killing 2,000 innocent people causes less suffering than killing 40,000 innocent people but I’m not talking about the amount of suffering, I’m talking about the morality of the action of killing innocent people itself.
     
    And I am talking about policy.

    Putin's policy regarding conducting the war resulted in 40,000 civilian deaths out of a population of 1.2 million.

    Poroshenko's resulted in 2,600 civilian deaths out of 6 million.

    Such a massive discrepancy clearly indicates that each leader had a different approach to the separatist war they were confronted with, reflecting a different morality.

    From a moral perspective it’s not even clear that one needs to kill any innocent person to have one’s moral compass totally wrecked. If a robber breaks into your house and you decide that killing your wife to stop that robbery is not as bad as letting the robber take possession of your house
     
    I'll remind you that the Russian invaders started killing people and were also killing people, so defending Ukraine from them was not simply about property or territory. Thank God they did not break into major cities but were bottled up in Donbas.

    I’ll remind you that I opposed Trump in 2016 and did no vote for either him or for Hillary that year. My posts from that year called him a populist and not a conservative, and demagogue of the lower classes, etc.

    All of us here (except for maybe A123) have criticized Trump but for every anti -Trump post of yours we could find two hundred where you talk about Ukraine, its history, its economy, the social disparities between its eastern and western regions
     
    Indeed, this an eastern European forum. It is called the "Russian reaction blog." Our host considers Ukraine to be part of the Russian sphere, and Ukraine is in conflict with Russia. I am on topic here.

    how you are planning to vote for Kamala because you reckon she’ll be better for Ukraine
     
    Not only. I explained it already. Both Trump and Kamala are bad, in very different ways, but on balance I consider Trump to be slightly worse. That he is more risky for Ukraine is further reason for me not to vote for him.

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today...

    I'm just not a risk-taker. I figure, 90% chance Trump will be worse than Biden has been for Ukraine, 10% chance he will be a lot better than Biden. But some Ukrainians who are risk-takers, do support Trump. Biden is painfully weak. Kamala will almost certainly be at least a little bit better than he is, though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.

    how you base your vote in a European country where you have much less attachment than I do to the US
     
    I have deep historical roots in that country (my family has had a political and cultural impact there) so I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there, which I will use in the next elections.

    It is also not unexpected by any means that Arnold supports the Democratic candidate. He was instrumental in turning California forever blue
     
    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    Isn't that a policy you support? Cutting down America's defense industry?

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I’d be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn’t vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn’t leave California.

    They went Democrat from a Hispanic-White guilt alliance. The problem for California is that Whites move out there to be single and stay unmarried. It’s LALA land. The other problem is that California Republicans are cowards. They’re just rich Whites that want to golf and avoid taxes. They have never cared about guns.

    • Replies: @AP
    @John Johnson


    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I’d be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn’t vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.
     
    Good points. Hopefully it pans out that way.

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn’t leave California.
     
    I am far from an expert on California but Sailer writes this (see under more):

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.



    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1852186811184881700

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

  895. @Mikel
    @AP


    I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there
     
    LOL. Even if it means voting against the interest of Ukraine, I'm sure.

    Well assimilated Ukrainian-American Spartz has a good lead in Indiana with 30% of the votes counted. Good omen and a hope that at least Congress will keep having people fighting the important battles. Not that you would know how she has voted other than on the Ukraine package issue.

    Replies: @AP

    I am not only legally but also morally entitled to have a political voice there

    LOL. Even if it means voting against the interest of Ukraine, I’m sure.

    The interests of Ukraine and those of that country are far more congruent even than those of Ukraine and the USA.

    Well assimilated Ukrainian-American Spartz

    She sells herself consistently and is good at it.

    Not that you would know how she has voted other than on the Ukraine package issue.

    I’m not in Indiana and her background inspires interest on this issue that other Indiana politicians do not (I do not know how any of the others stand on Ukraine).

  896. @John Johnson
    @AP

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I'm really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I'd be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn't vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn't leave California.

    They went Democrat from a Hispanic-White guilt alliance. The problem for California is that Whites move out there to be single and stay unmarried. It's LALA land. The other problem is that California Republicans are cowards. They're just rich Whites that want to golf and avoid taxes. They have never cared about guns.

    Replies: @AP

    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I’d be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn’t vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.

    Good points. Hopefully it pans out that way.

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn’t leave California.

    I am far from an expert on California but Sailer writes this (see under more):

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    He already disappointed them with the Ukraine aid packaged that he handed to Johnson at his mansion.

    Moscow Marge threw a tantrum along with the Bart Gaetz. Trump proved that he has no problem telling the Putin wing to shove it. Marge is also anti-vaxx and believes that Jews control the weather.

    Ukraine isn't even requesting much at the moment. They need manpower more than a new US aid package.

    Biden just sent them a bunch of Strikers. They really seem to like the Aussie wagon.

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.

    Running a woman is a risk with Hispanics unless the candidates are both women. It's long been known that Hispanic men and women will favor masculine men.

    10% of defense spending goes to California
    https://business.ca.gov/industries/aerospace-and-defense/

    That is partly why there is always bipartisan support for defense spending. California always gets a cut.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

    , @A123
    @AP


    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing
     
    Do you remember the disturbing pattern of Führer Zelensky? He arrived in America, on an Air Force transport, to campaign for Harris/Walz?

    In what reality will MAGA reward Führer Zelensky for supporting the Nazi-crat agenda?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

  897. @AP
    @John Johnson


    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I’d be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn’t vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.
     
    Good points. Hopefully it pans out that way.

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn’t leave California.
     
    I am far from an expert on California but Sailer writes this (see under more):

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.



    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1852186811184881700

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    He already disappointed them with the Ukraine aid packaged that he handed to Johnson at his mansion.

    Moscow Marge threw a tantrum along with the Bart Gaetz. Trump proved that he has no problem telling the Putin wing to shove it. Marge is also anti-vaxx and believes that Jews control the weather.

    Ukraine isn’t even requesting much at the moment. They need manpower more than a new US aid package.

    Biden just sent them a bunch of Strikers. They really seem to like the Aussie wagon.

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.

    Running a woman is a risk with Hispanics unless the candidates are both women. It’s long been known that Hispanic men and women will favor masculine men.

    10% of defense spending goes to California
    https://business.ca.gov/industries/aerospace-and-defense/

    That is partly why there is always bipartisan support for defense spending. California always gets a cut.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Hillary won Hispanics much more convincingly in 2016 and she was also a woman.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    Ukraine isn’t even requesting much at the moment.
     
    Do you know ho much of the recent 60 billion dollar aid program has already been used to supply Ukraine with needed weaponry? Ho much is left to be funneled to Ukraine that way? I remember hearing that the remainder needs to be used up by the time that Biden leaves office, but don't know if that's true?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  898. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    though not nearly as strong as Trump has the potential of being.
     
    How much is that? A return to Ukraine's 1991 borders?

    Replies: @AP

    The good case scenario for Ukraine is that he offers Putin a deal, Putin in his stupidity and pride refuses it, and Trump responds by giving Ukraine more aid than Biden ever did (Biden only gave Ukraine 10% of what was promised). Trump bragged that he had threatened to bomb Moscow if Russia moved into Ukraine.

    Trump would be willing to give Russia parts of Ukraine and no Ukrainian NATO membership, but would not be willing to hand Ukraine over to Russia, that would make him look weak and would be a major strategic setback (even Vance said he expects Ukraine to be well fortified – so Russia’s demand for a demilitarized Ukraine would be a no go). Of course this means that Ukraine, due to preserving its independence, can some time in the future join NATO, so Putin may not agree – the only way to guarantee no NATO membership ever is for Putin to fully absorb Ukraine. So if Putin offends Trump by refusing the deal preserving Ukrainian independence, then Trump will be obligated to put the hammer down on Russia that Biden refused to do, demonstrating to everyone (the Chinese, the North Koreans) that although he is willing to make deals, he is not weak and will not intimidated.

    I think the above scenario is unlikely and some sort of cope, but the chances of it happening are not zero. Some Ukrainians who voted for Trump think it will happen. Trump did kill the Iranian general and did use the US military to wipe out a couple hundred Wagner troops, after all. And he bragged about threatening Putin.

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.
     
    Can Ukraine get nukes fast enough?

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans....

    Ukraine will need nukes ASAP...Trump is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden
     

    I actually agree with most of your comment (oh, boy, I need better coffee..:) But you are missing the core reality that it is now out of the Western hands. It is up to Ukies and Russia. The assorted allies from Macron's Foreign Legions, Poles, mercenary Colombians, N Koreans, etc... are irrelevant.

    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn't believe in like NATO in Ukraine - he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008. Few years of transition, then a local 'neutral' Kiev sans Zelkoids, bitter and realistic. Georgia doesn't have diplomatic relations with Russia but will not fight a war and is grudgingly neutral. EU 'membership' will be frozen, on-and-off for decades.

    How big will be rump-Ukraine? Between today's 80% and a few other chunks that Russia decides it needs as 'security buffers'. I talked to a Dnipro person yesterday who was suddenly all-Russian, "we are Russians in the east, we always speak Russian"...lot of ethnic identity is tied to 'winning' and careers.

    But you can hope for the best, maybe the old man will reach for the nukes, earthquake in Moscow, or a divine meteor will smite the enemy...but basically the Ukie-NATO project is done. It failed spectacularly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    , @JL
    @AP

    Good post. I can't say I'm enthralled with the new nukes-or-bust strategy, hopefully it won't come to that.

  899. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    The good case scenario for Ukraine is that he offers Putin a deal, Putin in his stupidity and pride refuses it, and Trump responds by giving Ukraine more aid than Biden ever did (Biden only gave Ukraine 10% of what was promised). Trump bragged that he had threatened to bomb Moscow if Russia moved into Ukraine.

    Trump would be willing to give Russia parts of Ukraine and no Ukrainian NATO membership, but would not be willing to hand Ukraine over to Russia, that would make him look weak and would be a major strategic setback (even Vance said he expects Ukraine to be well fortified - so Russia's demand for a demilitarized Ukraine would be a no go). Of course this means that Ukraine, due to preserving its independence, can some time in the future join NATO, so Putin may not agree - the only way to guarantee no NATO membership ever is for Putin to fully absorb Ukraine. So if Putin offends Trump by refusing the deal preserving Ukrainian independence, then Trump will be obligated to put the hammer down on Russia that Biden refused to do, demonstrating to everyone (the Chinese, the North Koreans) that although he is willing to make deals, he is not weak and will not intimidated.

    I think the above scenario is unlikely and some sort of cope, but the chances of it happening are not zero. Some Ukrainians who voted for Trump think it will happen. Trump did kill the Iranian general and did use the US military to wipe out a couple hundred Wagner troops, after all. And he bragged about threatening Putin.

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow, @JL

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    Can Ukraine get nukes fast enough?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Be careful what you wish for. If Ukraine threatens Russia with nukes this may result in a more wholesale destruction of Ukraine which Russia has been avoiding.

  900. @AP
    @John Johnson


    But it would be funny if Trump ends up ignoring Vance on Ukraine and being much better than Biden. He was spotted with Pompeo today…

    I’m really not worried about Trump on Ukraine.

    He plays to his base at times but is easily pressured from both sides. The Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    I’d be more concerned with Vance but he is really just another swamp creature.

    Vance was originally part of #Nevertrump and didn’t vote for him in 2016.

    To say that he changes his mind is a bit of an understatement.
     
    Good points. Hopefully it pans out that way.

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    As Californian Steve Sailer has pointed out, California tipped blue when the defense industry left. This was a few years before the voters became Latino.

    The defense industry didn’t leave California.
     
    I am far from an expert on California but Sailer writes this (see under more):

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.



    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1852186811184881700

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing

    Do you remember the disturbing pattern of Führer Zelensky? He arrived in America, on an Air Force transport, to campaign for Harris/Walz?

    In what reality will MAGA reward Führer Zelensky for supporting the Nazi-crat agenda?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123


    Do you remember the disturbing pattern of Führer Zelensky? He arrived in America, on an Air Force transport, to campaign for Harris/Walz?
     
    He came to personally thank the workers at the factory that produce weapons that help Ukrainians defend themselves.

    He also met with Trump on that trip; it was a good meeting.
  901. @John Johnson
    @AP

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    He already disappointed them with the Ukraine aid packaged that he handed to Johnson at his mansion.

    Moscow Marge threw a tantrum along with the Bart Gaetz. Trump proved that he has no problem telling the Putin wing to shove it. Marge is also anti-vaxx and believes that Jews control the weather.

    Ukraine isn't even requesting much at the moment. They need manpower more than a new US aid package.

    Biden just sent them a bunch of Strikers. They really seem to like the Aussie wagon.

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.

    Running a woman is a risk with Hispanics unless the candidates are both women. It's long been known that Hispanic men and women will favor masculine men.

    10% of defense spending goes to California
    https://business.ca.gov/industries/aerospace-and-defense/

    That is partly why there is always bipartisan support for defense spending. California always gets a cut.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

    Hillary won Hispanics much more convincingly in 2016 and she was also a woman.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Hillary won Hispanics much more convincingly in 2016 and she was also a woman.

    She did and it's clearly not a hard rule.

    You also get some pretty big differences with California Hispanics vs rural Southern Hispanics.

  902. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nobody cares about your defense industry…why don’t you just issue the ‘dollars’ and give each shareholder and worker $100k?

    It's not my industry and I'm on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

    I'm pointing out who wins and loses in this war.

    Putin's fans like to think of him as in some glorius war against the west when it is western shareholders with stock in the defense industry that are getting rich. The sector clearly beat the market thanks to Putin. The stock I cited makes the Patriot defense system. It's not at all speculation. These companies are getting rich from the war.

    Some Russian girl will cry herself to sleep because her dad will never return while an amoral Western flash trader will make millions from this war. That is what it looks like.

    Every ‘dollar’ that is given to defense contractors is borrowed.

    The US will make a net profit from the war due to LNG exports. Most of the military aid is old stock that was scheduled to be decommissioned.

    The West is not a single economy. Germany is definitely an economic loser in the war but not the US. The US is in fact now the #1 exporter of LNG. It would be even higher but Biden capped it for climate reasons.

    You are openly advocating ethnic cleansing – that is a form of genocide and criminal, you should think again.

    Offering an alternative to Ukraine is not ethnic cleansing.

    Igor Girkin said that the separatist movement was a Russian operation and didn't actually have the support of the majority. Offering payments and housing would be providing an alternative to a dissatisfied minority. No one would be forcing them to leave.

    In any case my plan would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So maybe re-think your own terms of ethnic cleansing and who is doing it. It has already been reported that Putin has been moving in Central Asian Muslims into Donbas to replace the Slavs that were sent to the front.

    When Russia wins the war its prestige will go up and NATO reputation will go down.

    Boy is that wishful thinking. Z bloggers are questioning the war and our old pal Igor says it is a disaster.

    The Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war. They've already had to phone a friend in North Korea to help with Kursk. The Putin bloggers seem unhinged over this development.

    Direct your frustrations at Putin and not those of us that called this war stupid from the beginning.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

    Fighting a stupid war with Russia to put bases on its borders is just the way to do it, right?

    LNG exports…

    I checked the numbers and US is benefiting, but not as much as Norway, Qatar, Algeria…and Russia, the new LNG powerhouse. The biggest winner is Turkey, biggest loser is Germany, CE vassals, and UK. Ukraine and the Baltics are not even playing any more, they are out of the game…:)

    Offering payments and housing…No one would be forcing them to leave.

    Riiiight…have you been paying attention when Kiev was bombing them since 2014 and killed 3k civilians…how do you define ‘forcing‘ in your neck of the woods?

    Answer my question: if Russians in Donbas why not the whites in England? Offer them $100k to move to Canada “voluntarily” and make some space for more Indo-Pakis who need it more. Or whites in US, how about Montana? You don’t see the absurd criminal idiocy of what you suggest?

    Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war.

    Russia is winning, what more do you want? US lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria…but Russia is winning in Ukraine. Like with WW2 you will bellyache about how Germany ‘could have won’ or that 50k Anglos in Normandy in 1944 (!) “defeated Germany” – anything but to admit that Russia won. It must be driving you nuts, you hate them so much and they beat you again and again…so all that’s left are lies and insults.

    You called Iowa for Harris yesterday, you were giddy with hope – well Trump won Iowa 56-42 (not even close), those ‘factual polls’ you use are a bit suspect. But Harris won in DC with 92% – North Korea levels of support in the capital and suburbs. Don’t you think that is a problem? Do you have a ‘central blob’ with uber-liberal warmongers that sits on the country like an out-of-control parasite? 92%…think about it.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

     

    Fighting a stupid war with Russia to put bases on its borders is just the way to do it, right?

    Which bases are you even talking about?

    Maybe you can explain the threat exactly. Putin said he needs to stop "missiles on the border" and yet they don't exist in the Baltics. Are you talking about missile bases?

    Ukraine is fighting the war and not NATO. Finland already joined NATO and gave them plenty of new Russian border. They in fact have more Russian border than Ukraine.

    For the record I don't actually control the military industrial complex and I don't own defense stocks. I just point out that they benefit in this war. It shows that the war was poorly planned and has various beneficiaries. US defense companies benefit more than Russian children. Putin's defenders at Unz have a hard time with that reality. They want to believe Putin is sticking to the West by killing dads of Russian children and making US defense companies rich. I already pointed out that Raytheon is up 50% yoy.

    I checked the numbers and US is benefiting, but not as much as Norway, Qatar, Algeria…and Russia, the new LNG powerhouse.

    I said that the US is the largest exporter of LNG thanks to the war. You are free to verify that statement.

    Here you go:
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61683

    Riiiight…have you been paying attention when Kiev was bombing them since 2014 and killed 3k civilians…how do you define ‘forcing‘ in your neck of the woods?

    3k civilians were killed by Ukrainian military bombs? Let's see a source on that.

    Russia is winning, what more do you want?

    I think it is more of a stalemate. Winter temps are approaching and Ukraine is still in Kursk. If Russia was truly winning then they wouldn't need phone-a-dictator troops to help them.

    You called Iowa for Harris yesterday, you were giddy with hope

    Of all the Putin defenders you have the hardest time quoting me.

    I said that the Iowa poll favored Harris. I'm not giddy about either side winning and I'm sick of both Trump Tribe and mindless liberals. They're both groups that are highly emotionally driven and maintain various taboos to protect weak points in their beliefs. Neither should be in politics.

    I've also said many, many times that polls are not 100% accurate and like a Vegas casino they only need to be right most of the time. Trump tribalists however have a hard time with numbers.

    I don't like Trump or Harris. I've also said that many times. I'm not voting for a felon or an Affirmative Action selection that didn't take her own state when subjected to an actual primary. I already voted and left both blank.

    But Harris won in DC with 92% – North Korea levels of support in the capital and suburbs. Don’t you think that is a problem?

    Blacks normally vote around 8.5 to 1 on the Democrats and DC is filled with White liberals that work for the Feds and various non-profits.

    It's really nothing new.

    Do you have a ‘central blob’ with uber-liberal warmongers that sits on the country like an out-of-control parasite? 92%…think about it.

    It's actually more reflective of the people that live and work in DC proper. Portland Oregon voted about 80% Trump which is about the same. Single Whites in liberal cities are very reliable Democrat voters. Women tend to switch when they get married. I'm not a fan of liberals but it's an explainable number.

  903. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    The good case scenario for Ukraine is that he offers Putin a deal, Putin in his stupidity and pride refuses it, and Trump responds by giving Ukraine more aid than Biden ever did (Biden only gave Ukraine 10% of what was promised). Trump bragged that he had threatened to bomb Moscow if Russia moved into Ukraine.

    Trump would be willing to give Russia parts of Ukraine and no Ukrainian NATO membership, but would not be willing to hand Ukraine over to Russia, that would make him look weak and would be a major strategic setback (even Vance said he expects Ukraine to be well fortified - so Russia's demand for a demilitarized Ukraine would be a no go). Of course this means that Ukraine, due to preserving its independence, can some time in the future join NATO, so Putin may not agree - the only way to guarantee no NATO membership ever is for Putin to fully absorb Ukraine. So if Putin offends Trump by refusing the deal preserving Ukrainian independence, then Trump will be obligated to put the hammer down on Russia that Biden refused to do, demonstrating to everyone (the Chinese, the North Koreans) that although he is willing to make deals, he is not weak and will not intimidated.

    I think the above scenario is unlikely and some sort of cope, but the chances of it happening are not zero. Some Ukrainians who voted for Trump think it will happen. Trump did kill the Iranian general and did use the US military to wipe out a couple hundred Wagner troops, after all. And he bragged about threatening Putin.

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow, @JL

    …he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans….

    Ukraine will need nukes ASAP…Trump is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden

    I actually agree with most of your comment (oh, boy, I need better coffee..:) But you are missing the core reality that it is now out of the Western hands. It is up to Ukies and Russia. The assorted allies from Macron’s Foreign Legions, Poles, mercenary Colombians, N Koreans, etc… are irrelevant.

    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn’t believe in like NATO in Ukraine – he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008. Few years of transition, then a local ‘neutral’ Kiev sans Zelkoids, bitter and realistic. Georgia doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Russia but will not fight a war and is grudgingly neutral. EU ‘membership’ will be frozen, on-and-off for decades.

    How big will be rump-Ukraine? Between today’s 80% and a few other chunks that Russia decides it needs as ‘security buffers’. I talked to a Dnipro person yesterday who was suddenly all-Russian, “we are Russians in the east, we always speak Russian”…lot of ethnic identity is tied to ‘winning’ and careers.

    But you can hope for the best, maybe the old man will reach for the nukes, earthquake in Moscow, or a divine meteor will smite the enemy…but basically the Ukie-NATO project is done. It failed spectacularly…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn’t believe in like NATO in Ukraine – he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.
     
    So why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine? By helping to defeat this bill, Trump could have put a serious nail in the coffin for any "Ukie-NATO project", but instead ewnt ahead and helped throw Ukraine a much needed support line.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch.
     
    If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia Russia is not interested in such a trade.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008
     
    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

  904. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    The good case scenario for Ukraine is that he offers Putin a deal, Putin in his stupidity and pride refuses it, and Trump responds by giving Ukraine more aid than Biden ever did (Biden only gave Ukraine 10% of what was promised). Trump bragged that he had threatened to bomb Moscow if Russia moved into Ukraine.

    Trump would be willing to give Russia parts of Ukraine and no Ukrainian NATO membership, but would not be willing to hand Ukraine over to Russia, that would make him look weak and would be a major strategic setback (even Vance said he expects Ukraine to be well fortified - so Russia's demand for a demilitarized Ukraine would be a no go). Of course this means that Ukraine, due to preserving its independence, can some time in the future join NATO, so Putin may not agree - the only way to guarantee no NATO membership ever is for Putin to fully absorb Ukraine. So if Putin offends Trump by refusing the deal preserving Ukrainian independence, then Trump will be obligated to put the hammer down on Russia that Biden refused to do, demonstrating to everyone (the Chinese, the North Koreans) that although he is willing to make deals, he is not weak and will not intimidated.

    I think the above scenario is unlikely and some sort of cope, but the chances of it happening are not zero. Some Ukrainians who voted for Trump think it will happen. Trump did kill the Iranian general and did use the US military to wipe out a couple hundred Wagner troops, after all. And he bragged about threatening Putin.

    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow, @JL

    Good post. I can’t say I’m enthralled with the new nukes-or-bust strategy, hopefully it won’t come to that.

    • Thanks: AP
  905. @John Johnson
    @AP

    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing. Of course, he may just betray them all, as he tends to do that.

    He already disappointed them with the Ukraine aid packaged that he handed to Johnson at his mansion.

    Moscow Marge threw a tantrum along with the Bart Gaetz. Trump proved that he has no problem telling the Putin wing to shove it. Marge is also anti-vaxx and believes that Jews control the weather.

    Ukraine isn't even requesting much at the moment. They need manpower more than a new US aid package.

    Biden just sent them a bunch of Strikers. They really seem to like the Aussie wagon.

    Looks like Trump won the Hispanic vote outside California, if his total percentage of the Hispanic vote is 46%. Well, those guys appreciate their type of politician.

    Running a woman is a risk with Hispanics unless the candidates are both women. It's long been known that Hispanic men and women will favor masculine men.

    10% of defense spending goes to California
    https://business.ca.gov/industries/aerospace-and-defense/

    That is partly why there is always bipartisan support for defense spending. California always gets a cut.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

    Ukraine isn’t even requesting much at the moment.

    Do you know ho much of the recent 60 billion dollar aid program has already been used to supply Ukraine with needed weaponry? Ho much is left to be funneled to Ukraine that way? I remember hearing that the remainder needs to be used up by the time that Biden leaves office, but don’t know if that’s true?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Do you know how much of the recent 60 billion dollar aid program has already been used to supply Ukraine with needed weaponry? How much is left to be funneled to Ukraine that way? I remember hearing that the remainder needs to be used up by the time that Biden leaves office, but don’t know if that’s true?

    The largest chunk is in presidential drawdown authority. That basically means the president is authorized to ship existing stocks and the aid goes towards replacing them.

    So on some level there is a time limit for the existing president. But it's really not a big deal since Biden can appropriate the stocks before he leaves.

    I heard from a friend with military connections that the army isn't practicing as much with 155 because it is all going to Ukraine.

    Trump is pro US manufacturing and the 155 shell investments are primarily in red states.

    The Russians are giddy over a Trump win but I don't think they understand how our government works. To really disrupt the war Trump would have to get a majority in Congress to cancel the aid bill which would mean a loss of US manufacturing jobs. It's just not going to happen. Trump likes to spend on infrastructure and the Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    Ukraine really needed our ATACMs stock and they are getting them. They take much longer to build so it's not like we can churn out a huge stock of them next year. As I said before they really need men. Macron needs to grow some balls and send in the legion.

  906. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans....

    Ukraine will need nukes ASAP...Trump is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden
     

    I actually agree with most of your comment (oh, boy, I need better coffee..:) But you are missing the core reality that it is now out of the Western hands. It is up to Ukies and Russia. The assorted allies from Macron's Foreign Legions, Poles, mercenary Colombians, N Koreans, etc... are irrelevant.

    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn't believe in like NATO in Ukraine - he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008. Few years of transition, then a local 'neutral' Kiev sans Zelkoids, bitter and realistic. Georgia doesn't have diplomatic relations with Russia but will not fight a war and is grudgingly neutral. EU 'membership' will be frozen, on-and-off for decades.

    How big will be rump-Ukraine? Between today's 80% and a few other chunks that Russia decides it needs as 'security buffers'. I talked to a Dnipro person yesterday who was suddenly all-Russian, "we are Russians in the east, we always speak Russian"...lot of ethnic identity is tied to 'winning' and careers.

    But you can hope for the best, maybe the old man will reach for the nukes, earthquake in Moscow, or a divine meteor will smite the enemy...but basically the Ukie-NATO project is done. It failed spectacularly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn’t believe in like NATO in Ukraine – he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.

    So why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine? By helping to defeat this bill, Trump could have put a serious nail in the coffin for any “Ukie-NATO project”, but instead ewnt ahead and helped throw Ukraine a much needed support line.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Trump is obligated to play with all sides which is fine since he likes doing that.

    At the moment there is no obvious deal team Trump can offer Russia that will have enough upside and face saving for Russia to make up for the hopeless downside that it doesn't prevent NATO from restarting this stupid mess in a couple of years.

    If team Trump tries to force the issue of ending the war ASAP I think Russia will stall. She has been moving very slowly for almost three years and probably needs another three years to wrap things up. Trump's best move may be to simply ignore the Ukraine project. Donald can do this since he doesn't buy into the "Russians are two-headed devils" rhetoric which the MSM promotes on behalf of the Ukraine project.

    Alternatively, there is at least some small chance the AFU would stop fighting quickly once the feeding tube from the West is removed, leading to a rapid resolution. Trump's main goals in this course are reduction of the chance of nuclear war and starting the healing of Western relations with Russia to build an economic coalition against China. The war part is good, the economic part may be hopeless in the short run.

    Trump's wild card is the group of oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine who influence the situation. It is still unclear where many of these silent players stand on the SMO.

    The USA and Russia should build a joint base on the moon, probably called the Tycho Trump Tower. This project will be the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar aid
     
    Simple quid pro quo - Trump is a politician, it benefitted him to get the issue out of the headlines. The $60 billion pushed the moment of truth by 6-12 months into the next presidency. You are reading too much into it. Trump will not double-down on Ukraine, he knows it would make little difference - US military has known it for years.

    It will be either a small Russian victory, or a big one - the main Western interest now is in how it will be perceived, how to PR the defeat. They are good at it but Russia may not play along. Even with Trump.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  907. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    More likely IMO is that he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans.

    So Ukraine will need nukes ASAP. I think Trump, at least, is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden would be.
     
    Can Ukraine get nukes fast enough?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Be careful what you wish for. If Ukraine threatens Russia with nukes this may result in a more wholesale destruction of Ukraine which Russia has been avoiding.

  908. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn’t believe in like NATO in Ukraine – he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.
     
    So why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine? By helping to defeat this bill, Trump could have put a serious nail in the coffin for any "Ukie-NATO project", but instead ewnt ahead and helped throw Ukraine a much needed support line.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    Trump is obligated to play with all sides which is fine since he likes doing that.

    At the moment there is no obvious deal team Trump can offer Russia that will have enough upside and face saving for Russia to make up for the hopeless downside that it doesn’t prevent NATO from restarting this stupid mess in a couple of years.

    If team Trump tries to force the issue of ending the war ASAP I think Russia will stall. She has been moving very slowly for almost three years and probably needs another three years to wrap things up. Trump’s best move may be to simply ignore the Ukraine project. Donald can do this since he doesn’t buy into the “Russians are two-headed devils” rhetoric which the MSM promotes on behalf of the Ukraine project.

    Alternatively, there is at least some small chance the AFU would stop fighting quickly once the feeding tube from the West is removed, leading to a rapid resolution. Trump’s main goals in this course are reduction of the chance of nuclear war and starting the healing of Western relations with Russia to build an economic coalition against China. The war part is good, the economic part may be hopeless in the short run.

    Trump’s wild card is the group of oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine who influence the situation. It is still unclear where many of these silent players stand on the SMO.

    The USA and Russia should build a joint base on the moon, probably called the Tycho Trump Tower. This project will be the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.
     
    I always wished for this sort of a scenario. If you check my older commentary here, you'll soon find out that I was always for a neutral, non-alligned Ukrainian state. This would have helped prevent any military entanglements like we see today. Aso, Ukraine could have played a very lucrative role as a middleman in East/West relations. Russian oligarchs were also interested in this sort of a scenario too, for it would have lessened manufacturing and sales taxes in Russia itself, as product could have moved to the West through many Russian satellite companies within Ukraine. But alas this is not to be. Putler's unbridled surge to recreate a Russian empire today, knows no bounds. Everything cultural and Ukrainian is only treated as some sort of a fig leaf for "Nazism". Ukraine could have become a larger version of Finland (remember the term "Finlandization"), but even Finland has now abandoned its neutral stance due to Russian militarism.

    Replies: @QCIC

  909. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Hillary won Hispanics much more convincingly in 2016 and she was also a woman.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Hillary won Hispanics much more convincingly in 2016 and she was also a woman.

    She did and it’s clearly not a hard rule.

    You also get some pretty big differences with California Hispanics vs rural Southern Hispanics.

  910. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    Ukraine isn’t even requesting much at the moment.
     
    Do you know ho much of the recent 60 billion dollar aid program has already been used to supply Ukraine with needed weaponry? Ho much is left to be funneled to Ukraine that way? I remember hearing that the remainder needs to be used up by the time that Biden leaves office, but don't know if that's true?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Do you know how much of the recent 60 billion dollar aid program has already been used to supply Ukraine with needed weaponry? How much is left to be funneled to Ukraine that way? I remember hearing that the remainder needs to be used up by the time that Biden leaves office, but don’t know if that’s true?

    The largest chunk is in presidential drawdown authority. That basically means the president is authorized to ship existing stocks and the aid goes towards replacing them.

    So on some level there is a time limit for the existing president. But it’s really not a big deal since Biden can appropriate the stocks before he leaves.

    I heard from a friend with military connections that the army isn’t practicing as much with 155 because it is all going to Ukraine.

    Trump is pro US manufacturing and the 155 shell investments are primarily in red states.

    The Russians are giddy over a Trump win but I don’t think they understand how our government works. To really disrupt the war Trump would have to get a majority in Congress to cancel the aid bill which would mean a loss of US manufacturing jobs. It’s just not going to happen. Trump likes to spend on infrastructure and the Republican Senate is pro-Ukraine.

    Ukraine really needed our ATACMs stock and they are getting them. They take much longer to build so it’s not like we can churn out a huge stock of them next year. As I said before they really need men. Macron needs to grow some balls and send in the legion.

  911. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn’t believe in like NATO in Ukraine – he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.
     
    So why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine? By helping to defeat this bill, Trump could have put a serious nail in the coffin for any "Ukie-NATO project", but instead ewnt ahead and helped throw Ukraine a much needed support line.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    …why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar aid

    Simple quid pro quo – Trump is a politician, it benefitted him to get the issue out of the headlines. The $60 billion pushed the moment of truth by 6-12 months into the next presidency. You are reading too much into it. Trump will not double-down on Ukraine, he knows it would make little difference – US military has known it for years.

    It will be either a small Russian victory, or a big one – the main Western interest now is in how it will be perceived, how to PR the defeat. They are good at it but Russia may not play along. Even with Trump.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Simple quid pro quo – Trump is a politician, it benefitted him to get the issue out of the headlines. The $60 billion pushed the moment of truth by 6-12 months into the next presidency.

    LOL you are better than comedy central. I just watched some "best of" comedy central comedians and this statement was better.

    Trump greenlit giving Ukraine the entire ATACMs inventory as part of a delay of his support for Russia, is that right? To stay out of the media?

    Why didn't he have Johnson try to cut the bill in half? Why not try to water it down first?

    IF YOU LOOK UP AND SEE ATACMS COMING

    ITS JUST A PRE-TRUMP PACKAGE APPROVED BY TRUMP

    THE REAL PACKAGE WILL BE PRO-RUSSIAN WHEN HE IS PRESIDENT

    THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING

    Yea that all makes complete sense. Probably might lack some context if an ATACMs bearing ripped your arm off and is now spraying blood. In that case it might not seem like Trump is pro-Russian. He just had to do that cause the media or some shit.

    It will be either a small Russian victory, or a big one – the main Western interest now is in how it will be perceived, how to PR the defeat.

    So a small victory against a country with 1/8th the infantry and no Navy.

    And they had to bring in North Koreans.

    World is impressed.

  912. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Trump is obligated to play with all sides which is fine since he likes doing that.

    At the moment there is no obvious deal team Trump can offer Russia that will have enough upside and face saving for Russia to make up for the hopeless downside that it doesn't prevent NATO from restarting this stupid mess in a couple of years.

    If team Trump tries to force the issue of ending the war ASAP I think Russia will stall. She has been moving very slowly for almost three years and probably needs another three years to wrap things up. Trump's best move may be to simply ignore the Ukraine project. Donald can do this since he doesn't buy into the "Russians are two-headed devils" rhetoric which the MSM promotes on behalf of the Ukraine project.

    Alternatively, there is at least some small chance the AFU would stop fighting quickly once the feeding tube from the West is removed, leading to a rapid resolution. Trump's main goals in this course are reduction of the chance of nuclear war and starting the healing of Western relations with Russia to build an economic coalition against China. The war part is good, the economic part may be hopeless in the short run.

    Trump's wild card is the group of oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine who influence the situation. It is still unclear where many of these silent players stand on the SMO.

    The USA and Russia should build a joint base on the moon, probably called the Tycho Trump Tower. This project will be the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.

    I always wished for this sort of a scenario. If you check my older commentary here, you’ll soon find out that I was always for a neutral, non-alligned Ukrainian state. This would have helped prevent any military entanglements like we see today. Aso, Ukraine could have played a very lucrative role as a middleman in East/West relations. Russian oligarchs were also interested in this sort of a scenario too, for it would have lessened manufacturing and sales taxes in Russia itself, as product could have moved to the West through many Russian satellite companies within Ukraine. But alas this is not to be. Putler’s unbridled surge to recreate a Russian empire today, knows no bounds. Everything cultural and Ukrainian is only treated as some sort of a fig leaf for “Nazism”. Ukraine could have become a larger version of Finland (remember the term “Finlandization”), but even Finland has now abandoned its neutral stance due to Russian militarism.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Who knows, Putin's dreams may be as you say. Unfortunately, NATO's desire to pressure and crush Russia runs at least as deep. Even without Putin it was predictable that Russia would eventually have a strong reaction to this pressure. Ukrainian neutrality required that she not have any links, ties or alliances with NATO. You people all knew this was dangerous and simply ignored the risk. Such is the potency of propaganda combined with some of the deadly sins: pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust and sloth. As far as I know there is no gluttony behind the Ukrainian role in this mess.

  913. anon[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    It depends on degree.
     
    No, it doesn't. It depends entirely on one's moral compass. Aborting 2,500 babies is not more justified than aborting 75,000 babies. Killing 2,500 innocent people so that a country can keep its territorial integrity is no more justified than killing 75,000 innocent people for the same reason.

    About 2,600 civilian deaths by Kiev fighting an armed rebellion/invasion led by foreigners from a Donbas population of 6 million is restrained use of justifiable force
     
    I used to have this sort of discussions with Basque supporters of political violence decades ago and I never came across anyone who would speak of such levels of bloodshed so nonchalantly. If somebody asked me if I support killing 2,600 innocent wild animals, male, female and cubs, in order to maintain the territorial integrity of a state, I would at least hesitate to answer.

    The idiotic Biden administration refused to provide ATACMS in 2022 or early 2023 when the Russians were still grouping their soldiers in such a way that ATACMS would have led to Russian defeat in Ukraine.
     
    LOL. Sure, if only the Ukrainians had received the ATACMS a little earlier, they would have reached their 1991 borders.


    America getting a Latin America style populist demagogue as leader is more of a radical change than millions of mostly Christian, partially European third-worlders
     
    Like I said, if you are voting for woke, anti-Christian values Kamala because she's better for Ukraine, say so and leave it at that. I for one appreciate the sincerity. But these dialectical contortions to find additional motives are unbelievable by anyone reading you and make you lose credibility.

    America has assimilated Italians, Irish etc. before.
     
    Totally different times and totally different demographic groups. The Irish are quintessentially European and Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies. Crucially too, the big waves of European immigrants came at a time when they were selected (by race and health status), were forced to assimilate (which the US is not even trying to do with Hispanics) and there was no welfare, so those who didn't make it had to return home. Nobody is returning home now in a million years. The very few immigrants that return home from the US today are successful people from other 1st World countries: the ones that the US should rather keep the most.

    you don’t feel that because you are not an American
     
    But didn't you just say that we should listen to Shwarzenegger's opinions on US politics?

    And do you remind your wife that she is not an American and she cannot "feel" Americanness? Is John Derbyshire an American for you? And Alexander Vindmann? Were Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger American enough for you?

    your background has advantages also
     
    Yes, it does. Not long ago I was talking to a descendant of pioneers who was lamenting that too many Americans hate their country. I told him that they don't have anything to compare it to so it's easier for them to lack appreciation for what they have. For those of us who know Europe and Latin America very well it's much easier to appreciate the huge advantages that America still offers as a country, at least in the heartland. That's why I'm voting the way I am.

    Kamala is not going to change the beauty of the American West for me but she will change the US in other important ways. If you park your car at the trailhead of the Truchas Peak, close to Española, NM, you run a serious risk that someone will vandalize it, exact same problem I used to have mountaineering in Chile. In Utah and its immediate surroundings you don't even have to think about something like that.

    Replies: @AP, @anon

    Italy is the cradle of the Roman Empire, the Renaissance and classical music. No possible comparison to Third World societies.

    After reading Laurent Guyenot’s article on this site, I tend to think that the Renaissance was another word for the transfer or rather theft of Byzantine culture.

    What are Third world societies? I think Southern Italy has many characteristics of Third world societies, with its crime (Mafia) and all the rest.

  914. @A123
    @AP


    But the pattern of pro-Russian people Trump has chosen to surround himself with is disturbing
     
    Do you remember the disturbing pattern of Führer Zelensky? He arrived in America, on an Air Force transport, to campaign for Harris/Walz?

    In what reality will MAGA reward Führer Zelensky for supporting the Nazi-crat agenda?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

    Do you remember the disturbing pattern of Führer Zelensky? He arrived in America, on an Air Force transport, to campaign for Harris/Walz?

    He came to personally thank the workers at the factory that produce weapons that help Ukrainians defend themselves.

    He also met with Trump on that trip; it was a good meeting.

  915. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...he will fail to make a deal and will just throw Ukraine under the bus and blame it on Biden and/or the weak Europeans....

    Ukraine will need nukes ASAP...Trump is less likely to oppose Ukraine doing so than Biden
     

    I actually agree with most of your comment (oh, boy, I need better coffee..:) But you are missing the core reality that it is now out of the Western hands. It is up to Ukies and Russia. The assorted allies from Macron's Foreign Legions, Poles, mercenary Colombians, N Koreans, etc... are irrelevant.

    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war for things he doesn't believe in like NATO in Ukraine - he is volatile but fundamentally very careful.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008. Few years of transition, then a local 'neutral' Kiev sans Zelkoids, bitter and realistic. Georgia doesn't have diplomatic relations with Russia but will not fight a war and is grudgingly neutral. EU 'membership' will be frozen, on-and-off for decades.

    How big will be rump-Ukraine? Between today's 80% and a few other chunks that Russia decides it needs as 'security buffers'. I talked to a Dnipro person yesterday who was suddenly all-Russian, "we are Russians in the east, we always speak Russian"...lot of ethnic identity is tied to 'winning' and careers.

    But you can hope for the best, maybe the old man will reach for the nukes, earthquake in Moscow, or a divine meteor will smite the enemy...but basically the Ukie-NATO project is done. It failed spectacularly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch.

    If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia Russia is not interested in such a trade.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008

    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.
     
    Georgia also borders NATO, specifically NATO member Turkey. Tbilisi (Georgia's capital) is closer to Ankara (Turkey's capital) than it is to Moscow (Russia's capital). You are correct, though, that Ukraine is much more determined to fight Russia than Georgia is.
    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia
     
    Probably not, at most a few isolated places - is Ukraine interested in that trade? To disappear in order to hurt Russia?

    Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.
     
    Kiev will be very lucky if Russia offers them a Georgian solution - the best case scenario. For the reasons you listed Russia will demand more. Trump will huff-and-puff, then noisily walk away blaming Biden and Euros. He will be partially right but he real fault lies with the bad leaders in Kiev and the unhinged neo-con-libs...
  916. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    the beginning of the CoDominium. In this scenario Ukraine will have cultural autonomy and coexist harmoniously with Russia.
     
    I always wished for this sort of a scenario. If you check my older commentary here, you'll soon find out that I was always for a neutral, non-alligned Ukrainian state. This would have helped prevent any military entanglements like we see today. Aso, Ukraine could have played a very lucrative role as a middleman in East/West relations. Russian oligarchs were also interested in this sort of a scenario too, for it would have lessened manufacturing and sales taxes in Russia itself, as product could have moved to the West through many Russian satellite companies within Ukraine. But alas this is not to be. Putler's unbridled surge to recreate a Russian empire today, knows no bounds. Everything cultural and Ukrainian is only treated as some sort of a fig leaf for "Nazism". Ukraine could have become a larger version of Finland (remember the term "Finlandization"), but even Finland has now abandoned its neutral stance due to Russian militarism.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Who knows, Putin’s dreams may be as you say. Unfortunately, NATO’s desire to pressure and crush Russia runs at least as deep. Even without Putin it was predictable that Russia would eventually have a strong reaction to this pressure. Ukrainian neutrality required that she not have any links, ties or alliances with NATO. You people all knew this was dangerous and simply ignored the risk. Such is the potency of propaganda combined with some of the deadly sins: pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust and sloth. As far as I know there is no gluttony behind the Ukrainian role in this mess.

  917. @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch.
     
    If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia Russia is not interested in such a trade.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008
     
    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    Georgia also borders NATO, specifically NATO member Turkey. Tbilisi (Georgia’s capital) is closer to Ankara (Turkey’s capital) than it is to Moscow (Russia’s capital). You are correct, though, that Ukraine is much more determined to fight Russia than Georgia is.

  918. @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev tries for nukes they will be obliterated and the West will sit back and watch.
     
    If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia Russia is not interested in such a trade.

    Regarding the possible deal, look at Georgia post-2008
     
    Georgia is much smaller and much more isolated. Ukraine has 10s of millions of people and directly borders various NATO countries. Kiev is closer to Warsaw than it is to Moscow. And a lot of blood has been shed. Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    …If Ukraine would be obliterated so would be large parts of Russia

    Probably not, at most a few isolated places – is Ukraine interested in that trade? To disappear in order to hurt Russia?

    Ukraine will not accept a Georgian situation.

    Kiev will be very lucky if Russia offers them a Georgian solution – the best case scenario. For the reasons you listed Russia will demand more. Trump will huff-and-puff, then noisily walk away blaming Biden and Euros. He will be partially right but he real fault lies with the bad leaders in Kiev and the unhinged neo-con-libs…

  919. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...why did Trump go ahead and recently give House leader Johnson the go ahead to push for MAGA support for the $60 billion dollar aid
     
    Simple quid pro quo - Trump is a politician, it benefitted him to get the issue out of the headlines. The $60 billion pushed the moment of truth by 6-12 months into the next presidency. You are reading too much into it. Trump will not double-down on Ukraine, he knows it would make little difference - US military has known it for years.

    It will be either a small Russian victory, or a big one - the main Western interest now is in how it will be perceived, how to PR the defeat. They are good at it but Russia may not play along. Even with Trump.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Simple quid pro quo – Trump is a politician, it benefitted him to get the issue out of the headlines. The $60 billion pushed the moment of truth by 6-12 months into the next presidency.

    LOL you are better than comedy central. I just watched some “best of” comedy central comedians and this statement was better.

    Trump greenlit giving Ukraine the entire ATACMs inventory as part of a delay of his support for Russia, is that right? To stay out of the media?

    Why didn’t he have Johnson try to cut the bill in half? Why not try to water it down first?

    IF YOU LOOK UP AND SEE ATACMS COMING

    ITS JUST A PRE-TRUMP PACKAGE APPROVED BY TRUMP

    THE REAL PACKAGE WILL BE PRO-RUSSIAN WHEN HE IS PRESIDENT

    THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING

    Yea that all makes complete sense. Probably might lack some context if an ATACMs bearing ripped your arm off and is now spraying blood. In that case it might not seem like Trump is pro-Russian. He just had to do that cause the media or some shit.

    It will be either a small Russian victory, or a big one – the main Western interest now is in how it will be perceived, how to PR the defeat.

    So a small victory against a country with 1/8th the infantry and no Navy.

    And they had to bring in North Koreans.

    World is impressed.

  920. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.
     
    Fighting a stupid war with Russia to put bases on its borders is just the way to do it, right?

    LNG exports...
     
    I checked the numbers and US is benefiting, but not as much as Norway, Qatar, Algeria...and Russia, the new LNG powerhouse. The biggest winner is Turkey, biggest loser is Germany, CE vassals, and UK. Ukraine and the Baltics are not even playing any more, they are out of the game...:)

    Offering payments and housing...No one would be forcing them to leave.
     
    Riiiight...have you been paying attention when Kiev was bombing them since 2014 and killed 3k civilians...how do you define 'forcing' in your neck of the woods?

    Answer my question: if Russians in Donbas why not the whites in England? Offer them $100k to move to Canada "voluntarily" and make some space for more Indo-Pakis who need it more. Or whites in US, how about Montana? You don't see the absurd criminal idiocy of what you suggest?


    Russian military will not redeem themselves in this war.
     
    Russia is winning, what more do you want? US lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria...but Russia is winning in Ukraine. Like with WW2 you will bellyache about how Germany 'could have won' or that 50k Anglos in Normandy in 1944 (!) "defeated Germany" - anything but to admit that Russia won. It must be driving you nuts, you hate them so much and they beat you again and again...so all that's left are lies and insults.

    You called Iowa for Harris yesterday, you were giddy with hope - well Trump won Iowa 56-42 (not even close), those 'factual polls' you use are a bit suspect. But Harris won in DC with 92% - North Korea levels of support in the capital and suburbs. Don't you think that is a problem? Do you have a 'central blob' with uber-liberal warmongers that sits on the country like an out-of-control parasite? 92%...think about it.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    …I’m on record as wanting to reduce the military industrial complex.

    Fighting a stupid war with Russia to put bases on its borders is just the way to do it, right?

    Which bases are you even talking about?

    Maybe you can explain the threat exactly. Putin said he needs to stop “missiles on the border” and yet they don’t exist in the Baltics. Are you talking about missile bases?

    Ukraine is fighting the war and not NATO. Finland already joined NATO and gave them plenty of new Russian border. They in fact have more Russian border than Ukraine.

    For the record I don’t actually control the military industrial complex and I don’t own defense stocks. I just point out that they benefit in this war. It shows that the war was poorly planned and has various beneficiaries. US defense companies benefit more than Russian children. Putin’s defenders at Unz have a hard time with that reality. They want to believe Putin is sticking to the West by killing dads of Russian children and making US defense companies rich. I already pointed out that Raytheon is up 50% yoy.

    I checked the numbers and US is benefiting, but not as much as Norway, Qatar, Algeria…and Russia, the new LNG powerhouse.

    I said that the US is the largest exporter of LNG thanks to the war. You are free to verify that statement.

    Here you go:
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61683

    Riiiight…have you been paying attention when Kiev was bombing them since 2014 and killed 3k civilians…how do you define ‘forcing‘ in your neck of the woods?

    3k civilians were killed by Ukrainian military bombs? Let’s see a source on that.

    Russia is winning, what more do you want?

    I think it is more of a stalemate. Winter temps are approaching and Ukraine is still in Kursk. If Russia was truly winning then they wouldn’t need phone-a-dictator troops to help them.

    You called Iowa for Harris yesterday, you were giddy with hope

    Of all the Putin defenders you have the hardest time quoting me.

    I said that the Iowa poll favored Harris. I’m not giddy about either side winning and I’m sick of both Trump Tribe and mindless liberals. They’re both groups that are highly emotionally driven and maintain various taboos to protect weak points in their beliefs. Neither should be in politics.

    I’ve also said many, many times that polls are not 100% accurate and like a Vegas casino they only need to be right most of the time. Trump tribalists however have a hard time with numbers.

    I don’t like Trump or Harris. I’ve also said that many times. I’m not voting for a felon or an Affirmative Action selection that didn’t take her own state when subjected to an actual primary. I already voted and left both blank.

    But Harris won in DC with 92% – North Korea levels of support in the capital and suburbs. Don’t you think that is a problem?

    Blacks normally vote around 8.5 to 1 on the Democrats and DC is filled with White liberals that work for the Feds and various non-profits.

    It’s really nothing new.

    Do you have a ‘central blob’ with uber-liberal warmongers that sits on the country like an out-of-control parasite? 92%…think about it.

    It’s actually more reflective of the people that live and work in DC proper. Portland Oregon voted about 80% Trump which is about the same. Single Whites in liberal cities are very reliable Democrat voters. Women tend to switch when they get married. I’m not a fan of liberals but it’s an explainable number.

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