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See also: What race(s) are Ukrainians? — From tall timbers to the Pontic Steppe
When Soviet Russia and Finland agreed to properly define their border in 1920, so the story goes, an old man whose remote cabin sat squarely on the proposed line of demarcation was asked which country he’d rather be a part of. After some deliberation, the man opted for Finland, but it was his reasoning that struck a chord of irony: “At my age, I don’t think I can survive another Russian winter.”
There is a kernel of truth to even the most cynical of apocryphal anecdotes in which life imitates art. The post-modern incarnation of a comical borderland in our current times is Ukraine, whose dilemmatic stumbling in recent history has tempted some of its people with utopian European winters of comfort, while others opt for the Little Russian ones that they’re naturally suited for. Chasing Western carrots and greener pastures is the sort of Pyrrhic end-goal typified by most migrants, who in reality are escaping themselves. In this case, the wanderlust of Ukrainian exceptionalism and entitlement is the Faustian bargain that has only migrated war to their doorstep.
Ukraine’s self-appointed destiny as a fully sovereign entity with no obligation to its complex past, its precarious present, or to a large subset of its population is an idea rooted in separateness from Russia and the chauvinistic ploy to monopolize the Kievan Rus legacy. Ask a Ukrainian about the origins of the Russian state and you’ll often get a lecture in semantics about how Muscovy stole the Rus name, or how Russia is more a successor state to the Golden Horde. Recent developments suggest that the custodians of Ukraine’s heritage want to embellish the contribution of the non-Slavic elements — the Southern nomads — to the formation of Ukrainian identity, bestowing certifiably non-Russian lineages to their pedigree.
In my previous piece on the ethnogenesis of the early Slavs, it was shown that while the Slavs remained homogeneous in their marshy homeland until at least the 10th century, the Pontic-Caspian region was a multi-ethnic (albeit monoracial) abode of roving Indo-European nations. The arrival of the Huns would buck this trend, while other horse-faring Altaic nations would follow in their hoofsteps, hastening the cycle of imperial rise, fall, and replacement or reconstitution. But among the somewhat transient presence of the Avars, Bolgars, Magyars and Pechenegs, one nation stands out for the size and longevity of their empire: the Khazars.
Having conquered such a vast expanse of territory and bringing many Indo-European peoples under their dominion, the contours of identity became distorted like never before. This multi-racial empire would hold together for several centuries, merging all inhabitants to a common name — that of the ruling Turkic Khazars. The 10th century traveling scholar Estakhri (a Persian) described the contrast in rather stark terms: “They are of two kinds, one called the Black Khazars, who are swarthy verging to deep black, as if they were a kind of Indians, and a white kind, who are strikingly handsome.”[1]Dunlop, D. M. (1967). The history of the Jewish Khazars. New York: Schocken Books Other sources from the Muslim world typically focused on just one type of Khazar, usually the more numerous type, whose “complexions are white, their eyes blue, their hair flowing and predominantly reddish.”[2]Bodleian, M. S., I, 874, fol. 71. Thus, even after hundreds of years and nearing the expiration of the Khazar state, the population was diverse but not yet miscegenated.
One of the ways in which the Khazar epoch left its mark, quite literally, on modern Ukraine’s cultural heritage is through a symbol that now has global recognition. The enigmatic coat-of-arms of Ukraine, which represents either a trident or a gyrfalcon, was taken from the seals of early Kievan-Rus rulers but has a deeper origin that is unmistakably tied to the tamga designs of Turkic provenance.[3]Pritsak, O. (1998). The origin of the Old Rus’ Weights and Monetary Systems (p. 78). Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press This alone would make a modest contribution to the Khazar epoch as a whole, but alas there was another seemingly spurious event of significant consequence: the conversion of the Khazar court to Judaism.
Without delving into the controversial works of Arthur Koestler, Shlomo Sand and Eran Elhaik, suffice it to say that the medieval sources of the time — be they in Sephardic Iberia, the Abbasid Caliphate or the Regnum Teutonicorum — are sufficiently numerous and credible to believe that part of the Khazar population, the upper echelon, indeed adopted Judaism. This is not such an arcane hypothesis considering that much of the region at this time still held pagan beliefs, which had little respectability for post-nomadic peoples on the fringes of civilization now aspiring for political clout.
Turks traditionally practiced shamanistic or animistic beliefs like Tengrism, which survives to this day in Siberia. One of the oldest sources on the Khazars, the 8th century Cosmography, leaves little doubt as to the identity of the true Khazars in their early days on the Pontic Steppe, being described as “the very worst… sooty, foul, with acutely pointed [?] teeth.”[4]Pseudo-Aethicus Istricus. (770s). Cosmography This last description likely refers to the filing of teeth that was done to honor the wolf that animist Turks so widely revered and tied to their own bestial creation story. As late as the 10th century, some of the more primitive Turks of the region were engaged in the worship of phallic idols, according to the travelogue of Arab diplomat Ibn Fadlan. Such bizarre cults are not totally surprising given the emphasis that animist cults placed on fertility semiotics, and this may partially explain the phenomenon of Hungary being Europe’s capital of pornography, the outsized role of Ashenazis in pioneering the industry, as well as the vulgar theories of perverted psychiatrist and self-described “fanatical Jew” Sigmund Freud.[5]Hes, J. P. (1986). A note on an as yet unpublished letter by Sigmund Freud. Jewish Social Studies, 48(3/4), 321-324
Based on quantitative judgment alone it is patently obvious that the large numbers of Jews in Eastern Europe could not all have descended from the Semitic-derived Diaspora that migrated through Italy and Germany over centuries to eventually head eastward. Moreover, the phenotypes of the Ashkenazis, who are a heterogeneous group, contain expressions which are visibly neither Semitic nor particularly European. Consider the archetype of a Mikhail Tal, the Klitschko brothers, Glenn Greenwald or Konstantin Kisin — which I can only describe as a frog-like physiognomy.
Understandably, organized Jewry has wanted no part of Khazar history to overlap with their own — if not for cultural reasons then for political reasons. But in spite of the heavy-handed reflex, some remarkable evidence remains jarringly coincidental, even in the often-mentioned domain of linguistic evidence. Yiddish may be an overwhelmingly Germanic language, but in the Khazar Khaganate it so happens that the name for a silver coin was sheleg, which indeed has ancient Semitic roots and which returned in the form of shekel to be Israel’s new currency in 1980. Another discrepancy surrounds the etymology of yarmulke, the Yiddish name for the Jewish skullcap, to which most dictionaries ascribe a Turkic etymology.
A fascinating German source from the 13th century, long after the disintegration of Khazaria, illustrates what fervently Christian Germans at that time thought of the now seemingly mixed population of the Pontic Steppe. Der Göttweiger Trojanerkrieg references war-like, red-haired Jews who “looked hideous” and “taxed travelers very heavily” when traveling through the land of “Plotzen” (the empire of the Cumans, who succeeded the Khazars and whose Slavic exonym was Polovtsians).[6]Koppitz, A. (Hg.). (1926). Der Göttweiger Trojanerkrieg (p. 272). Deutsche Texte des Mittelalters, 29
It’s not exactly clear what part of the Khazar epoch’s affairs and legacy mentioned above could appeal to modern Ukrainian chauvinists. However, one possibility is the identification of Khazaria as one of the first cosmopolitan, multi-racial and multi-creedal states — something that the current Kyiv regime appears to want a lot more of.
The two entities to succeed Khazaria, the Pecheneg Khanate and Cumanian Khanate, were likewise Turkic and pagan but transitioning to post-nomadic life on the Pontic Steppe, which still meant perennial warfare with their neighbors. Kievan Rus at this early time was led by a highly decorated leader, Sviatoslav I, who would be ambushed by the Pechenegs and have his skull fashioned into a drinking goblet by his nemesis Khan Kurya, in accordance with the custom of the Steppe people.[7]Pseudo-Nestor (1100s). Russian Primary Chronicle, Year 972 Both the Pechenegs and the Cumans would convert to Christianity in the next few generations and enjoy some respite from chronic warfare. However, the general theme of relations between countries of the period was one of opportunistic arrangements based on evolving circumstances and the capricious motives of rulers. Thus, the degree of ethnolingual affinity between nations was totally arbitrary to political alignment, as alien loyalties were arranged as readily as fratricidal bloodshed.
As to the Cumans (also called Kipchaks or Polovtsians) who dominated the Steppe until the time of the Mongols, there is as much uncertainty over their name as their racial identity. For while the different exonyms that referred to this people are calques of the same meaning — pale yellow, it is not known whether this referred to the color of their hair, the coat of their horses or the soil of their region. What is known is that they spoke Turkic, which at the very least was the lingua franca of a multi-ethnic confederation. An invaluable dictionary written in the 13th century, the Codex Cumanicus, has preserved many words from the Cuman language — and among them are words like shabat and shabat kun for Saturday, meaning that some Khazar Jewish linguistic culture had diffused into the Cumans.[8]Brook, K. A. (2006). The Jews of Khazaria (p. 181). Rowman & Littlefield Publishers
Beginning in the 11th century, the unpopular Kievan-Rus prince Sviatopolk II started a trend of marrying the daughter of a Cuman Khan — a trend followed by Volodymyr Monomakh, Rurik Rostislavich, Mstislav the Magnificent and Yaroslav Vsevolodovich. What is interesting about the conjugal habits of European royalty of old is that they seem to have engaged either in extreme inbreeding or extreme outbreeding. If there is a redeeming quality to the royals of the past, it is that they at least fought and sometimes died in the wars that they waged.
Accounts of the physical appearance of the Cumans vary, but it’s likely that a large portion were descendant of the pallid Scythians who previously dominated the Steppe, especially since some sources mention Cuman cultural practices like chivalry and female participation in warfare, which hearken back to descriptions of Black Sea Indo-Europeans like the Amazons.[9]Nicolle, D. (1990). Attila and the Nomad Hordes (p. 32). London: Osprey Publishing Perhaps the most well-known figure to be of Cuman ancestry was Vlad the Impaler, better known as Dracula. His near-contemporary portrait indicates mixed Eurasian ancestry. Many Cumans who fled the Mongol invasions settled Hungary in the 13th century, with one group being granted self-governance in a county that survived to the 19th century. Genetic analyses from Cuman gravesites in Hungary indicate a high degree of Eurasian admixture.[10]Bogacsi-Szabo, E., Kalmar, T., Csanyi, B. et al. (2005). Mitochondrial DNA of Ancient Cumanians: Culturally Asian Steppe Nomadic Immigrants with Substantially More Western Eurasian Mitochondrial DNA Lineages. Human Biology, 77(5), 639-662
Ukrainian nationalist folklore group Brothers Kapranov assert that the Cuman legacy was more impactful than is given credit for, to the extent that the country’s national colors derive from the Cumans. This would mean that Ukraine’s flag is related to Kazakhstan’s flag and not Sweden’s as is often assumed. The brothers also promote the idea that Ukraine’s second largest city, Kharkiv, gets its name from the Cuman khan Sharukan.
The Cumans initially fought the Mongols with valiant dedication, but since the bulk of the Golden Horde’s vassals were Turkic peoples, flipping sides was not such an unnatural eventuality. At any rate, most of the Ukrainian lands during this period were nestled inside the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. By the end of the 15th century, the band of serfs, adventurers and mercenaries known as Cossacks began to form in the borderlands of this state, but also in the southern parts of Russia.
The Cossack name is almost certainly cognate with the Khazar of old and the Kazakh of the present, but since names can diversify over time, along with their meanings, linguists choose their own adventure. All of the forms of this name ultimately go back to the Turkic verb qas, which means to terrorize or oppress.[11]Bazin, L. (1982). Pour une nouvelle hypothèse sur l’origine des Khazar. Materialia Turcica, 7/8, 51–71 At some point, Cossacks graduated from a social class into an ethnic one, in spite of being quite heterogeneous. One need only look at the profile of belligerently pro-Russian advocate Simeon Boikov, a social-media cowboy better known as Aussie Cossack.
Since the Cossack legacy is part of Russia’s history too, Ukraine isn’t quite able to merchandise this tradition with the same verve, while both sides have issues with native pretendians accused of false affiliation for performative gratification. In any case, there is still no bigger actor than the politician in camouflage green, Volodymyr Zelensky.
Commentors on my last piece rightly pointed out that Zelensky’s identity should not be considered Slavic, not even by modern and inclusive standards. Besides being of the Hebraic faith, Zelensky’s stocky physique, black hair and brachycephaly indicate greater than average Turkic admixture, be it of Khazar, Pecheneg or Cuman provenance.
Whether by chance or design, Zelensky’s inner circle and high-level cabinet appointments also seem to disproportionately draw from the Eurasian population rather than the Slavic. These include Foreign Affairs Minister Andrii Sybiha, Technology Minister Mykhailo Fedorov, Defence Minister Rustem Umerov (a Crimean Tatar) and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrsky (the Sirs or Shars is an older name for the Cumans).[12]Klyashtorny, S. G. (2005). Steppe empires: Birth, triumph, death (p. 346). Steppe empires of ancient Eurasia. St. Petersburg The Head of the President’s Office, Andriy Yermak, also has a peculiar surname that is almost certainly related to the yarmaq — the currency of ancient Khazaria. Yermak happens to be Jewish, along with Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, President Zelensky and his godfather Ihor Kolomoysky.
The copious manifestations of corruption throughout various government organs continue to be reported in the local European media, where fantastic trade in assets is turning over in short amounts of time. In addition to this, there has been bustling trade on the weapons black market, as has been rightly publicized by Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson. This is a template that tessellates to the very top of the power hierarchy in Ukraine, such that you could see it from the Carpathian Mountains. A recent mega-project announced through official channels and without much sense of appropriateness was the commencement of construction on a ski resort in Western Ukraine with 25 hotels and a price-tag of $1.45 billion.
Transparency of the brazen kind is back in vogue, ever since the Oval Office meeting that stopped the world and put to rest any doubts that Zelensky wasn’t a melodramatic narcissist larping well above his pay-grade. For comparison, back in 1995 Boris Yeltsin was found drunk in his underwear at 5am trying to find a pizza place near the White House, and yet that was still less of a PR disaster than the debacle of Zelensky back-chatting the President and Vice-President in front of the international press corps. Even the Ukrainian ambassador was left face-palming, but overall it was good to see these leaders finally break the fourth wall. If only America’s fifth column was to fall next.
Trump, it’s fair to say, is a transactional president, but while he barters with territory and resources, Zelensky barters with the lives of his countrymen. But he has also shown a willingness to stake Ukraine’s riches and future generations rather than aim for peace. This is not to absolve America’s nefarious role and motives in this conflict, or Trump’s material brand of pacifism. A millennium and half ago, Emperor Marcian allegedly deployed a very obtuse style of diplomacy with Attila the Hun, telling him: “I have gold for my friends, and iron for my foes.”[13]Thomas, J. (2009). The Universal Dictionary of Biography and Mythology, Vol. I: A-CLU (p. 202). New York: Cosimo Thus, the haughty demands of indignant strongmen for rare earth minerals is not so different in our modern times after all.
The Ukraine War has clearly become a personal vanity project for President Zelensky, much like his incumbency that dares not be interrupted by elections. If his feckless Western supporters were not so enraptured by his laughable media sanctification or Putin’s demonization, they might have noticed that they’ve been Zelenskiing uphill for three years now, to a peace summit that will never come. Zelensky is the sort of unsavory character, a Merchant of Vinnytsia, who wants his pound of flesh in perpetuity — and also be recognized as a hero for it.
The purpose of giving Mr Zelensky a pedigree assessment as well as a character one is legitimate insofar that leaders with lower ethnic affinity to the populations that they rule over is a conflict of interest, for reasons not limited to lower empathy. There are also simply tendencies of low-trust and low-conscientiousness specific to certain ethnic groups.[14]Heine, S. J., Buchtel, E. E., Norenzayan, A. (2008). What Do Cross-National Comparisons of Personality Traits Tell Us? Psychological Science 19(4):309-13. A Russian-speaking Jew with a Polish surname and Turkic admixture certainly seems like an odd choice for Ukrainian nationalists. What makes Zelensky an ideal case study to contrast Ukrainian and Russian identity is that he presents a familial history of fluidity on the matter. In the Second World War, Zelensky’s grandfather fought on the side of the Red Army against Ukrainian nationalism, in a conflict that was about more than just ideology. While we don’t know much about Zelensky’s true sentiments prior to entering politics (he did not pen a single article or engage in activism of any kind), what we do know is that before being elected he publicly supported the Russian language. He completely changed course shortly after becoming president, mandating Ukrainian in all official spheres including education — at whose behest we can only speculate.
My final piece in this series will make a deeper foray into the onomastics and HBD of the contemporary Ukrainian population, including prominent members of its large diaspora.
Notes
[1] Dunlop, D. M. (1967). The history of the Jewish Khazars. New York: Schocken Books
[2] Bodleian, M. S., I, 874, fol. 71.
[3] Pritsak, O. (1998). The origin of the Old Rus’ Weights and Monetary Systems (p. 78). Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press
[4] Pseudo-Aethicus Istricus. (770s). Cosmography
[5] Hes, J. P. (1986). A note on an as yet unpublished letter by Sigmund Freud. Jewish Social Studies, 48(3/4), 321-324
[6] Koppitz, A. (Hg.). (1926). Der Göttweiger Trojanerkrieg (p. 272). Deutsche Texte des Mittelalters, 29
[7] Pseudo-Nestor (1100s). Russian Primary Chronicle, Year 972
[8] Brook, K. A. (2006). The Jews of Khazaria (p. 181). Rowman & Littlefield Publishers
[9] Nicolle, D. (1990). Attila and the Nomad Hordes (p. 32). London: Osprey Publishing
[10] Bogacsi-Szabo, E., Kalmar, T., Csanyi, B. et al. (2005). Mitochondrial DNA of Ancient Cumanians: Culturally Asian Steppe Nomadic Immigrants with Substantially More Western Eurasian Mitochondrial DNA Lineages. Human Biology, 77(5), 639-662
[11] Bazin, L. (1982). Pour une nouvelle hypothèse sur l’origine des Khazar. Materialia Turcica, 7/8, 51–71
[12] Klyashtorny, S. G. (2005). Steppe empires: Birth, triumph, death (p. 346). Steppe empires of ancient Eurasia. St. Petersburg
[13] Thomas, J. (2009). The Universal Dictionary of Biography and Mythology, Vol. I: A-CLU (p. 202). New York: Cosimo
[14] Heine, S. J., Buchtel, E. E., Norenzayan, A. (2008). What Do Cross-National Comparisons of Personality Traits Tell Us? Psychological Science 19(4):309-13.
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The ” quantitative judgment” is clouded because some have claimed population number estimates in EE prior to 1800/1897 were reliable when in fact they are very far from reliable.
Genetics shows that the Khazar myth is wrong
and genetics shows that the closest similarities are with Italians:
The large numbers of Jews in Eastern Europe can be explained with these factors:
1. early migrations from Italy to EE (only small numbers are needed because population in EE was smaller)
2. later, continuous migrations from Italy to EE
3. migrations of souther Loez speakers to Germany, later they migrated to East and introduced Yiddish to EE
4. the Byzantium continuum of South-Italy/South Balkans: migrations to the southeast, to Khazaria and later they migrated to EE
5. Jits van Stratens argument that the genetic similarity between modern Italians and Ashkenazi can be explained by the migration into Italy (of Jews or of the south-Euro populations who were the source for the converts to Judaism), and the mass conversions of Jews to Christianity in Italy
Nitpicker patrol — Assemble!
Ah yes the “this one genetic study proves…” pre-baked conclusion.
Just walk around with your conclusion hammer and find a genetic study nail.
Genetic studies as a whole have disproven the out-of-africa theory for example, yet guess waht’s in textbooks in schools to this day?
Not all history is myth – the genetic studies out of Israel itself have been the most damning of all.
I’d go around and google up some confirmation of this “bias” but honestly the best indicator of this “myth” being real is Israel’s behavior itself. The wanton destruction of the people with the most REAL ancient hebrew heritage, the Arabs in Palestine, is tough to deliberately miss.
Watching this much of society purposefully NOT notice what’s happening right in front of them is the most telling aspect of this entire saga.
And is proof enough for me.
Also the people of the lie just keep lying. It’s quite obvious that most of the “hebrew” stories in the old testament, just by timeline alone, DO NOT involve Judea / hebrews at all but are old semitic tales dating back to the 10,900 BC flood (which didn’t cover the world but rose the seas 400 feet).
They’ve taken on this heritage by re-writing the old testament, which in its current form is not as old as claimed. They didn’t appear on the scene until 1500 BC or so, simple as that.
Most of what we call “jewish” is really 17th century ottoman empire birth of an identity.
Also take a real good look at the hebrew alphabet, and the phoenician alphabet. We have been lied to en masse and the digital age is bringing an end to these shenanigans forever.
Interesting note on the Ukrainian tryzub and its connection to Khazar symbols. I live in a neighborhood in New York which has many Ukrainians. I am really curious as to where the real Russo-Ukrainian animosity originated. I really wonder how much of it stems from the Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic, which had its origins while the was under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, then Czarist Russia from 1798 until after WW I. The great number of Ukrainian Catholics were back under Polish rule during this period -and thus were not affected directly by the Holodomor (being under Polish rule). They were sympathetic to the Nazis during WW II and a large part of the Ukrainian diaspora in the US originates in both Galicia and of Ukrainian Catholic origin. I really wonder how much these connections play in the current horrors of Ukraine?
Hungary is the porn capital of Europe? People in Prague want a word with you!
Depending on how you define “real,” I’d say much of the recent animosity – going back only to the 20th century – stems from Joe Stalin, Collectivization, the Holodomor, and WWII. All that stuff.
Certainly, there has been a great divide between Russians and Ukrainians in their respective post-war attitudes about these matters. While the Russians by and large have glorified Stalin and the Red Army’s victory in the Great Patriotic War, the Ukrainian reaction was mixed, with some seeing Stalin as a bigger villain than Hitler himself, a view that even some Russians shared, albeit quietly.
But for the recent conflagration and war, the spark of course was Maidan. After Yanukovich was ousted in the so-called Revolution of Diginity, the Ukrainians enacted Decommunization laws and a campaign to remove all Soviet-connected place names, street names, public signs and monuments to Stalin and other Soviet big shots, and distance itself from its Soviet past.
My wild guess would be those Ukrainian decommunization and de-Stalinization actions infuriated some Russians, who were already upset by Yanukovich’s ouster.
Vlad Putin is something of a Stalinist himself, and has expressed some disappointment and/or regret at the break-up of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, and of course he saw Yanukovich’s ouster as an illegal coup, as did some Ukrainians/Russians in the country’s eastern regions which became the breakaway Donbas provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk.
I don’t know who fired the first shots in the Donbas War.
I just wish it was over already.
The meme below is well-sourced, with Chabad’s famous leader Rebbe Schneerson reported as predicting in 1994 that a Russia-Ukraine war would be stoked to mass-slaughter Slavic males, and make room for Jews in a ‘new Khazaria’ … Slavic males reportedly considered by Chabad’s leader, to be the most resistant of all white men to Jewish impositions, and therefore best liquidated.
The material was published in Russia in 2001 in the newspaper ‘Slavyanin’. There was prosecution of the editor, V. F. Popov, for ‘hate speech’ by Putin’s early regime, but the effort failed because it was factual publication of what leading Jews said, and Russian intellectuals came to Popov’s defence. The longer version can be read at the link just below … from the file:
https://files.catbox.moe/em9fd1.pdf
other link in image
https://henrymakow.com/2024/07/russia-khazaria-ukraine.html
It is not “one” study.
The rival theory, the Khazar theory is a fringe theory. Like flat-earth theory.
But it is useful for the Jews in their Ukraine plans.
Koestler even admitted as much, that his interest in promoting the Khazar myth was to “fight anti-Semitism.”
Wikipedia:
Those physiognomies are a dime a dozen in the Balkans. That’s not a call to love them (perish the thought), only to point out that they’re hardly unique to ‘Khazarians,’ and that the principles (such as they are) that you have attempted to elucidate in this, if I may say, rather discursive essay consequently apply to lands well beyond the boundaries of ‘Khazaria.’
I await it with bated breath, for perhaps then the point of this exercise will finally reveal itself to me.
An unimpeachable source if there were ever one.
It’s intriguing to consider that Putin, Trump and Zelensky are all associated with Chabad.
And while Zelensky is doubtless a Jew, that Putin and Trump are crypto-Jews, associated for quite a while now through their Chabad ties.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007/
The capture of Ukrainian males to be killed at the front would be a bit of Chabadist coordination between Putin and Zelensky.
I the meantime, Jewish settlers are streaming in with no fear of being dragooned.
Congratulations on discovering gene flow. You have correctly identified a common link with Balkan South Slavs … now you have to think about whether the Khazars and kin are the ones who spread it. The addition of the Konstantin photograph was not my decision, but that of the editor of TOO, as I wanted to focus on Greenwald, who is the ultimate Khazarian archetype — what is nowhere to be found in the Balkans. As I mentioned, Ashkenazis are heterogeneous and Khazar empire ended 1,000 years ago. Your quibblesome observations are what go beyond the boundaries.
My writing style packs a punch and I cover a lot of ground without much waffle. What you call “discursive.” At what stage of reading the entire 3,000 word article did you realize that it wasn’t your thing, that you couldn’t see the point of it, and that you wanted your money back? Enough readers are able to find meaning in my writing for me to discard your self-pitying sarcasm.
I explained in the first piece in this series what the inspiration was to examining Ukrainian identity, but in any case there’s a lot of variety here on Unz, perhaps you can go read about Israel v Palestine for the millionth time with Mr Giraldi, or, be swept up in the contemporary erudition of Mr Anglin.
Not everything has to be a political bunga-bunga party for your sensibilities.
I have known people from Kazakhstan tell me the latter is false. I don’t believe them but I would be interested in seeing what others have written. It sounds almost nearly exactly identically the same.
“I don’t know who fired the first shots in the Donbas War.”
Yours is one of the most ignorant posts I’ve ever read on this website, and that’s saying a lot. The above quote is just one of the countless moronic statements you just made.
That’s wild exaggeration and argument by assertion. Who the fuck are you?
Of course, you are free to provide your own version of what happened, but instead you chose to lead with trash talk.
But go ahead. Let’s hear your version.
The Donbass started to be shelled and bombarded the moment the two provinces seceded from the US-sponsored, neo-nazi-aided coup government installed in Kiev in 2014, a coup d’etat the head of Stratfor called the most blatant CIA coup since Chile in 1973. And the overwhelming majority of the Donbass targets being shelled by the Ukronazis were civilian. The only real question is why it took Russia so long to invade and come to their aid, a delay that allowed the “Ukrainians” to stockpile American and European weapons and granted the treacherous Western “allies” time to train the Ukros in the use of their weaponry and coordinate with their advanced satellite systems.
What is so pathetic about your lies is that not only does rest of the world outside the Western media bubble see them for the lies they are, but about half the population within the West itself realizes this too. Your days are numbered.
As I said in my original post, most of the Ukrainians I know come from Galicia (Halychyna) -which was Polish between the two World Wars. I’ve met old Ukrainians that hated Poles. I could see the Stalin hate after WW II – but this particular bunch of Ukrainians really didn’t experience the Holodomor. Also, a lot of these folks support (through their organizations) the likes of people such as Stepan Bandera – who was all over the place in his insanity. He fought against Nazis -fought with Nazis fought Against Soviets killed Russians, Poles , Jews -Jeez I hope he killed a few cockroaches and rats while he was at it. They may not support Bandera openly, but their is a not so passive underlying support. This is supposedly the origins of all those “neo-Nazis” running around Lviv and Kiev with their tiki-torches. I call them faux-Nazis. They are kids/young men who don’t have a pot to piss in and were taken advantage of (willingly or unwillingly) by the likes of the fat Jewess Nuland and all the rest of the Euro/NATO swine. Talking to these folks (here in New York) is like trying to get a coherent answer from some woketards as to why they hate Trump. “I hate him because I hate him”
Today’s converted Jews are NOT remotely descendants of Abraham, hence NOT the semitic chosen People and NOT the Israelites of the bible and NOT the inheritors of the land of Palestine.
The Ashkenazis (aka Turkic people) are Eurasians and the Sephardim (aka Mizrahi) are Iranians:
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/are-jews-the-israelites-of-the-bible/
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/09/10/a-brief-history-of-the-kingdoms-of-israel-and-judah/
From the roof of the Dnepropetrovsk synagogue, Jews are already openly singing that Ukraine is their land.”Independent” Ukraine
Video Link
Rise above.
#7 is right; Even Z. said he wanted to make Ukraine a second I…l.
Oops! Your flat-earth theory mention destroys any credibility you might otherwise have been able to claim.
I find it interesting; whenever anybody claims “Jews aren’t ME/Hebrew-descended but xyz!” [As Elhaik’s Turkic to Khazaria to Ukraine 2016 paper does], some factions explode. This ‘fake contradiction’ recalls another battle of skrik’s, namely against AGW-denialists. Same sort of kafuffle; screeches of outraged disbelief: “Scam!”
Of course Jews have to claim to be ME/Hebrew-descended – otherwise they’d demonstrably have no claim on Palestine at all, the [pre Nakkba#1] native owner/occupiers of Palestine being the original and true semitics – and belong there, unmolested.
US-speak: Go figure. rgds
PS As it is, ((they)) have no valid claim, as ((they)) prove ((their)) primitive genocidal brutality = inhuman criminality; ((they)) must all vacate, paying punitive reparations on ((their)) way out; UNGA195 “Palestinian right of return”.
PPS Given the breadth and depth of ZOG control, how can one find an ‘honest’ referee? Haw.
ATTENTION: Anonymous[190]
1. You would do well to go and RE-EDUCATE yourself than carrying on with the dribble you just posted !
2. For one whom is very well educated on said subject matter(s0; to read your comment is exhausting and extremely ignorant on a great many FACTS !
3. Again, here is said podcast link with said forensic references as it is also clear you are one (1) of those that must be spoon fed. Please wake up !
• https://qed.exposed/
Respectfully,
Gray M. STANTON
Who starved the “non-Soviet” Ukraine?
15,000 children in Transcarpathian Ukraine died of hunger
ATTENTION: Ladies & Gentlemen,
1. Everything that you think you know on the Khazars is wrong.
2. Just by reading the plethora of comments above on said subject matter leaves me wondering WHAT hope is there for humanity WHEN the overwhelming majority of comments on this platform signify those we scholars and medical researchers (i.e., genealogists) refer to as ‘stupid’.
NOTE: And we know ‘You cannot fix stupid’.
3. The below podcast link is a solid platform for one (1) to commence RE-EDUCATION to facts that have been established through irrefutable forensic analyses; thereby said criminological research results are both ‘reliable’ and ‘verifiable’; the two (2) main tenets required in order for said information to be listed as credible.
4. Nothing I’ve read above is credible let alone noteworthy other than to say those of you commenting fulfil the end word in my earlier point #2. This is a very serious subject given the cat is well and truly out of the bag on WHO the Jewish people are – they are IMPOSTERS, converts at best.
5. There isn’t one (1) living person on this globe who has ANY Judahite Hebrew blood whatsoever – NONE ! Thereby meaning, no living Jew can claim being of Semitic origin – ZERO ! Again, they are ALL CONVERTS – PERIOD !
6. https://qed.exposed/
Respectfully,
Gray M. STANTON
Many arbitrary claims and ignorance of history.
Indo-Europeans? >>Who were they and what language did they speak?
Yiddish may be an overwhelmingly Germanic language …>> Incorrect. How Yiddish could be a German(ic) language (although it has many German words), when at the time of its creation Germans did not live in Germany? Where and when did Jews and Germans meet?
Perhaps the most well-known figure to be of Cuman ancestry was Vlad the Impaler, better known as Dracula. > Untrue. We can call upon the witness, one of his descendants, Shirley the Impaler, a contemporary contributor to the unz.
Emperor Marcian allegedly deployed a very obtuse style of diplomacy with Attila the Hun, telling him: “I have gold for my friends, and iron for my foes. >> What was the ethnicity of Marcian? And what of Attila? What language did they speak?
Obviously we are back again to the unanswered (i.e. incorrectly answered) question – who were the Ashkenazis and where did their language (Yiddish) come from?
At least we know the meaning of the offensive expression for Jews – kike.
Or have we forgotten that too?
South Slavs?
Mainstream claims that some Slavs (the term did not yet exist) migrated to the Balkans in the 7th century from an unknown location (one version mentions swamps in Ukraine).
Who were these South Slavs in the 7th century who migrated to the Balkans (or were they even the original inhabitants of the Balkans) and what language did they speak?
Great article – спасибо
I’ve read enough about Хазария, the Печенег etc. to come to the conclusion that the the Russians have a very good reason to keep the name ” Borderland” . It was a monkey fuck of a place before and it is still a Monkey fuck of a place. So, until it is led by a pro Russian if not entirely Russian government { NovoRossiya } – it will still be the Borderlands and a M F.
Kazakh blue is Temujin´s flag (minus the white falcon) so it cannot very
well predate the Mongols; yes, I noticed the Hohols are getting playful
with the tone 😁
What happened to the Khazars? Are there no descendants of the original Khazars around? Were all the Khazars exterminated when their khaganate was broken up?
Yes, our Rebbe had indeed Kabbalistic powers conferred through Black Magic, and that power conferred by Yahweh’s interdimensional travelers to our Rebbe allowed the future to be shaped according to the wishes of Yahweh for his chosen people as channelled through our Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Messiah.
Our true Messiah, our Lubavitcher Rebbe, is at this time actively involved in shaping events from Yahweh ‘s eternal abode, by his side, using Kabbalistic magic to shape events and direct the actions of our Golems such as Putin, Trump, Orban, Erdoğan, and many others whose names I can’t reveal as they operate in the shadows.
What mystery have Zionist ideologues, propagandists and Mr. Unz NEVER managed to explain to the general public:
How is it possible that millions of Khazars, after converting to Judaism, mysteriously evaporated and within a split second all several million Khazars were replaced in their exact locations by “true Semites – descendants of biblical Jews”?
Clarification: If those millions of Khazars had evaporated, people in neighboring villages would have noticed the vapors, so those millions of Khazars had to sublimate and that within a split second, so that neighbors, wives, etc. wouldn’t even notice. And within a split second they were replaced by “true Semites”.
Is there any New Generation Zio propagandist here who has a new theory (without 3 kilometers long quotes from the Talmud) about this mystery?
A useful reference not on the list.
“Russia and the Khazars” by John Beauty, Chapter 2 of “The Iron Curtain Over America” (1951)
It can be found on the internet like at academia.edu.
Your reasoning here is flawed on two counts. First, it would not be surprising that Jewry, as a parasitical-predatory cult, would have had a much higher average family size and therefore a higher population growth rate than the host population from which it sucked financial resources. The Roma, another parasitical ethnicity functioning by less skilled techniques, appeared in Europe several centuries after the Jews and likewise has grown in population size faster than the native Europeans and at a rate similar to that of the Ashkenazim.
Second, rather than considering the “frog-like physiognomy” in the Ashkenazim to be evidence of Khazarian introgression, it is possible that this facial appearance, like the prodigious Ashkenazi sneer, may be an adaptation for exploiting the host population by presenting to dissatisfied counterparties the impression of implacability and disagreeableness. Most human beings would be more likely to desist in pressing their complaint when confronting an ugly opponent than when confronting a handsome one.
Good observation. I have written about this a couple of times by the way. All mainstream hypotheses have proven to be incorrect (including Ron’s Punic hypothesis). The cause of all inaccuracies is the lack of will to learn the history of Europe.
But there is one hypothesis (one can say a theory) that (for a start) logically explains the origin of the Ashkenazi and their Yiddish language – the so-called Odyssey’s hypothesis. Its most important part is the Penelope Paradox, which proves – if the mainstream hypotheses are true (e.g. Rhineland or Punic), then Europe should have 14 billion inhabitants today. Here is a small detail that presents the essence of this problem.
https://www.unz.com/article/why-did-churchill-have-britain-fight-on-after-summer-1940-its-bad-news/?showcomments#comment-6917886
Your point is that the Khazarian hypothesis is based on magical thinking. Especially so after it was demonstrated that Ashkenazi genetics has no significant trace of Turkic input.
Interesting website. Thank you.
While some Khazar kings were converts, it is very probably a myth that all Khazars converted to Judaism (and even if they did, they would have converted back to Christianity, as in other countries).
Here you see a PCA showing that Ashkenazi Jews are not at all close to Khazars.
Let’s get it over with!
BOOM!
Afterwards, IF there are any surviving GOYS left after the fake Hebrew Zionist jews . . . It is how they should be referenced and defined . . . destroys the world with their 90 nukes/Sampson Plan, divide and conquer strategy . . . people should make sure any surviving fake Hebrew Zionist jews who manage to escape the destruction are quickly given what they most assuredly deserve for their part in destroying the world. No fake Hebrew Zionist jew should ever be allowed to breath air or walk the earth again for their crimes against humanity.
I think people seriously need to consider a coup d’tat in America where patriots will round-up all fake Hebrew Zionist jews, along with their fifth-column traitors, bootlickers, and anyone who places evil Israel before America’s interests and deport them along with confiscating their ill-gotten wealth. Such people includes Donald Trump and Indian-lover JD Vance.
Keep Indians out of America!!!!
Their leaders (Most of Congress/Soros-type billionaire supporters? need to hung up with no due process! Remember 9/11, JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations, U.S.S. Liberty, Vietnam, etc. Such people deserve it.
Otherwise, the world continues on with the fake Hebrew Zionist jews fucking it up!
Don’t believe there are means to defend the country from nuclear attack. Once it starts, we can’t stop it.
Keep in mind most of the federal judges blocking recently converted to Judaism Donald Trump are fake Hebrew Zionist jews. Count them yourself. They have us all tied in knots.
It’s already clear that the Rhineland theory is wrong. It tries to impose that all Jews have origins in the Middle East, so according to them, Ashkenazis do not actually exist as a separate group.
The attempt to modify it (the so-called Punic theory) also fails to explain the critical point I mentioned (the enormous increase in the number of Jews in Europe from 50K to 8 million in the 20th century -> so-called Penelope Paradox), although a parallel is attempted with the enormous increase in the number of Irish in the US.
As for the so-called Khazarian theory – Arthur Koestler’s theory seems attractive on the surface, but linguists do not take it seriously because Yiddish does not have a single Turkic word. It is interesting that no one here even mentions linguistics, which is much more important than genetics. The fact is that a small part of the Ashkenazim are of Khazar-Turkic origin, and it is true that they do not have Middle Eastern (Palestinian) origin at all.
Some believe that Yiddish originated from German, but this is unfounded. The so-called Telemach’s thesis is that Yiddish is an older language than German.
I have already said that the so-called Odyssey’s hypothesis (OH) only explains the enormous increase in the number of Jews in Europe in an atmosphere of wars, persecutions, pogroms, famines, epidemics, and migrations. Sooner or later we will have to directly address the author of OH to have him explain it personally.
Jews and Nazis both obsessed with overseeing the massacre of as many Slavs as possible.
Birds of a Death Cult feather.
“which I can only describe as a frog-like physiognomy.”
Priceless phrasing!
Most of the descendants would have been happy servants of Mongol empire and then of its successor the Ottoman Empire.
Yiddish is the Jewish devised dialect of Continental Saxon for Jews. It is linguistically Germanic.
So when the primary international language of Jews shifted from Yiddish to English, the move was merely from 1 Saxon tongue to another Saxon tongue.
Why would Jews pick Saxon? Well, jewishness is anti-Rome and thus linguistically will hate everything related to latin. And Germanic pagans destroyed the Western Roman Empire. Saxons are the evil people whop destroy Camelot in every medieval work of Arthurian literature, even those written in English and German. So with Camelot symbolizing the hoped for Christendom and Sons as the destroyers of Camelot, it is a given that Jews would want to embrace things Saxon and see Saxons was as natural allies.
This is based on false statistics:
New research shows that the Punic converts are genetically not related to the Levant, instead, they are largely “similar to that of Sicily and the Aegean”. (see abstract below of a very recent study)
If the Punic hypothesis is true that Punic converts were the origin of Ashkeanzim, then this new study explains the genetic similarity of Ashkenazim to the genetics of Sicilians and Italians found in other genetic studies.
The section of Punic converts to Judaism in Sicily became the Ashkenazi Jews, and the the section of Punic converts to Judaism in Iberia became the Sephardic Jews.
Historians have documented that the “Holomordor” is an anti-communist fiction, first promoted by the American media mogul William Randolph Hearst. It began with the February 18, 1935 issue of his Chicago American, with a huge Page One headline “6 Million People Die of Hunger in the Soviet Union.” Using material supplied to him directly by friends in Hitler’s government, Hearst published fabricated stories about a genocide which was supposed to have been deliberately perpetrated by the Bolsheviks. Hearst followed the initial articles with a second series by Harry Lang of the New York Jewish newspaper, The Daily Forward. Lang has also been accused of exaggeration, but he stated that the conditions he describes were observed in 1932-33, when there was a general shortage of food throughout the country that reached famine proportions only in localized parts of the Ukraine, the Lower Volga and the North Caucasus.
The CIA and MI5 continued the anti-Soviet disinformation campaign in the Cold War era. Books and films were financed by Ukrainian refugees in the US, former Nazi collaborators whom the American government had given political asylum, deceitfully presenting them to the world as friends of democracy.
The Canadian journalist Douglas Tottle meticulously exposed these falsifications in his book “Fraud, Famine and Fascism – the Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard”, published in Toronto in 1987. Tottle accurately gives the facts surrounding the reporting of the food shortages of the 1930s, and exposes the lies initially published in the Hearst press. Among other things, Tottle showed that the horrifying photographs of starving Ukrainian children that shocked the world had been taken in 1922, when eight foreign armies were rampaging through Russia in the civil war.
It’s quite striking that that magic six million number given to Hearst by Germans came to be the cornerstone of the Soviet atrocity legend about Germany.
I think Putin held back until he felt Russia was prepared to wage the long war. The military industrial complex of Russia had to be built up and the country made sanctionproof. My Mir bank card was issued in 1-2 weeks back in March 2022. Plus everyone’s existing MasterCard and Visa cards started processing on the Mir payment system (I found this out after I got my new card haha). Daily life hardly changed after the SMO began.
Tell us more.
What races are Germans exported to Palestine before WWII ? Its a trick question for idiots, mainly “Americans”, educated in Sunday school. You can always recognize a German and a “American” on the stench of rotten Childs and Women, and on the censur of Internet. I may self had to move at the time of the fake Pandemic. The Balkans in the Swedish ghetto removed every green straw, except the poisonous plants, and voted for Bee Death AB, Jew-Telia. Blow up the Atlantic cables, so we get rid of you, Ron Unz, enemy of Newtons Laws. The spectacle “Nine Eleven” are already taken down technically 20 years ago on Internet by real scientists, thats why AB Mass murder wants to start it all over again.
The first shots were fired in the Maidan square by foreign mercenaries sniping on random people there, simply to inflame the situation.
At the time (2014), most reports stated that they were Israelis.
Maybe I’ll even believe you a little if you tell us at least some of the meanings of the words
– kike, golem, goliath, lubav(itcher), yababa, etc…
Sarz — Do you mean Jews are streaming into Ukraine? Can you provide a source for this info? They certainly need to get the heck out of the Middle East; they have no future there. Thanks.
Impressive synagogue building, must have cost a pretty penny, and lovely singers. I have high appreciation for kletzmer music anyway. I was disappointed that at the end they did not throw themselves off the rooftop to fly away gracefully like in a Chagall painting.
The song can’t be very recent because at the end they say “Next year in Jerusalem” which is a case of ‘been there, done that already.’
Jesus Christ. The original Homo sapiens inhabitants of the Balkans must have arrived there 50,000 years before the Indo-Europeans spawned the Slavs and all the other tribes whose languages diverged. The geneticists studying prehistory call the early H. sapiens in Europe Western Hunter Gatherers. In any case, you seem completely unaware of the constraints that genetic evidence places on your musings.
Nitpicking suggestion:
the title should be Slava Khazarii because “slava” (“glory to) requires the dative case for ‘Khazaria,’ as it does, for exmaple in ‘Slava Rossii.’
I had three Russian friends in Tokyo pre-coronamania. They left because of finishing courses (two) or becoming tired of the type of work that she could find here (low-end retail) and other factors (one).
Her surname is ‘Khazakh’. I asked the two students why that is, had various ideas about orphanages or a Russian family in Khazakhstan.
The students thought it obvious that the name just reflected Cossack ancestry. So, only a sample of two, but they were quite sure in their words.
Move along, move along. Nothing to see here.
The son’s of Tharbis out of Africa deep genetic strata related to the current demographic warfare on the ethnos’ of the “white” West…?
Genetics doesn’t lie:
Mooriani P., Patterson N, Hirschhorn JN, Keinan A, Hao L, Atzmon G, Burns E, Ostrer H, Price AL, Reich D (April 2011). “The history of African gene flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews”. PLOS
Genes Tell Tale of Jewish Ties to Africa”. The Forward from the original on 16 November 2016. Ostrer H,
Skorecki K (February 2013). “The population genetics of the Jewish people”. https://forward.com/culture/140721/genes-tell-tale-of-jewish-ties-to-africa/ In 2011
Human Genetics. 132 (2): 119-27. doi:10.1007/s00439-012-1235-6. PMC 3543766. PMID 23052947.
Moorjani et al. detected 3%-5% sub-Saharan African ancestry in all eight of the diverse Jewish populations (Ashkenazi Jews, Syrian Jews, Iranian Jews, Iraqi Jews, Greek Jews, Turkish Jews, Italian Jews) that they analyzed.
The timing of this African admixture among all Jewish populations was identical.
The exact date was not determined, but it was estimated to have taken place between 1,600 and 3,400 years ago. These findings the authors explained as evidence regarding the common origin of these 8 main Jewish groups. “It is intriguing that the Mizrahi Irani and Iraqi Jews— who are thought to descend at least in part from Jews who were exiled to Babylon about 2,600 years ago share the signal of African admixture.
A parsimonious explanation for these observations is that they reflect a history in which many of the Jewish groups descend from a common ancestral population which was itself admixed with Africans, before the beginning of the Jewish diaspora that occurred in 8th to 6th century BC” the authors concluded.
Regarding the “white” west… it is ancient!!
Sapiens Sapiens Horsa and Hengest were not out of Africa, they were out of the far NW of Europe (“Doggerland” and North America! “The Great White North” Indeed! )
https://www.sciencenordic.com/anthropology-archaeology-denmark/dna-links-native-
americans-with-europeans/1393344
https://www.sciencenordic.com/ancient-dna-denmark-dna/scandinavians-are-the-earliest-
europeans/1410116
“this BEu component could not have come from the Middle East because modern Lithuanians are closer to K-14 than Stuttgart (Fig. S14), the alleged recipient of the Middle Eastern gene flow. So, the Middle Eastern populations must have received it from an UP European population related, first, to K-14, then to MA-1 and, finally, to Amerindians. This is why, while MA-1 ancestry is found across Sub-Saharan Africa, the BEu part of K14 ancestry is absolutely missing among Amerindians and Sahulians.
This proves that Africa was colonized from Eurasia by modern humans, while Amerindians and Sahulians are the two most unadmixed and isolated populations among modern humans. The importance of K14 for modern human origins, therefore, is that it represents a pivotal population in a state of transition from a New World ancestor of all modern humans to an ancestor of all modern Sub-Saharan African populations.”
http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2014/11/10/ancient-kostenki-14-markina-gora-
dna-a-glimpse-into-a-population-on-its-way-from-america-to-africa/
Biblical Moses married Queen Tharbis of Nubia. Moses was an Hyksos Egyptian army commander. According to Josephus.
https://www.academia.edu/90037370/WHO_WERE_THE_HYKSOS_Torino_4_September_1991_
https://twitter.com/ralfellis/status/1751741162304548883?s=61
https://mysearchforpoliticalmary.com/2014/10/22/my-history-of-the-queens-of-israel-part-i/
https://armstronginstitute.org/2-evidence-of-mosess-conquest-of-ethiopia
Why it follows as a maternal lineage cult?
Interesting music video… Fiddlers on the Roof — Khazar edition.
My understanding of the song is that it is an homage to Israel, while claiming Ukraine is their home too… a standard neocon anthem of sorts. Released in 2020…
Well, you didnt explain what the counter-argument is.
And this study https://www.academia.edu/35723224/Italy_migration_1815_to_present
shows the mass migration of Italians to the rest of Europe. 15 millions Italians migrating to the rest of Europe in only 100 years, from 1876 to 1976. This study proves that numbers can add up, but as van Straten says, before 1800/1897 we do not have reliable numbers.
The statistics are wrong because: the situation becomes even more incomprehensible when one realizes that there are no reliable numerical data about the size of the Jewish population in Eastern Europe before the census of 1897. Jits van Straten – Ashkenazic Jews and the Biblical Israelites
What a blatant attempt at distraction! There are no OT-sourced “inheritors” of Palestine. The Incarnation put an end to that ethnic covenant, which was a pro-tem one from the get-go, as all readers of the OT, including Jews themselves, whether “genuine” or otherwise, know full well.
Sound advice, especially in light of the laudably scholarly tone of the author’s essay.
Whatever one’s disagreements, however many or few they are, and whether politely or rudely voiced, Mr. Zaja’s article constitutes, I think, a remarkable piece of research and exposition. I congratulate and thank him sincerely.
Dr. Eran Elhaik is a geneticist from Israel.
Dr. Kevin MacDonald disagrees.
Some Russian carevna invited 350 000 Germans into Russia for farming business. These German got land for free in proximity of Khazarian Pale of settlements.
Khazars like succes of these German immigrants and simply mimicked their names and some words. So Khazars Kagans and Kaganovitch morphed into Kahn, Kuhn, Eisenstein, Einstein, Silberstein, Rubinstein, Goldstein etc.
This way some German words found their way into Jiddish language.
Comment 8 details the numerous criticisms of Elhaik’s research, and Comment 38 shows on a Principal Components plot how separated genetically Khazars are from Ashkenazim. Your dog don’t hunt.
I learned about the flow of Jews from Israel back to Ukraine from the youtube “Настоящее Время” channel (this is an anti-Russian channel) about 6 years ago. There were figures of 40,000 religious Jews and the city of Uman.
For ordinary people from Ukraine, this created a wide range of problems.
When Jews wave their hands around and declare that this is all our property, which we will always own, or at least be able to sell it all, it looks like arrogance.
The content of the song is very interesting to review.
The Germanic’s who took down post Constantine judeao-christianized Rome were Arian’s… they didn’t believe in nor “worship”, nor prostrate themselves, to any jewish man-god!
The Arian Germanic conquests of Rome refer to the numerous invasions and eventual collapse of the Western Roman Empire by various Germanic tribes, many of whom had converted to Arian Christianity, a form of Christianity that differed from the mainstream Nicene faith. Key events include the sack of Rome by Visigoths in 410 AD and the deposition of the last Western Roman Emperor by Odoacer in 476 AD. These Germanic tribes, including the Visigoths, Vandals, Ostrogoths, and Franks, established their own kingdoms in the former Roman territories.
Elaboration:
Arianism:
Arian Christianity, which held that Jesus Christ was not fully divine but rather a created being, was adopted by several Germanic tribes before their interactions with the Roman Empire.
Constantine the Great significantly contributed to the Christianization of the Roman Empire by embracing Christianity, legalizing its practice, and promoting it through patronage and policy. He is known for the Edict of Milan (313 CE), which granted religious freedom to all, including Christians, and the Council of Nicaea (325 CE), which helped define Christian doctrine. While Constantine’s motives and the extent of his personal faith remain debated, his policies undeniably shifted the empire towards a Christian identity.
It was judeao-christianity that destroyed the ancient high Occidental culture and civilization for a Jewish barbarism straight out of Africa!!
https://www.unz.com/article/slava-khazaria/#comment-7100393
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkening_Age
“The Final Pagan Generation” refers to a book by Edward J. Watts that explores the experiences of the last Romans born before the Roman Empire’s conversion to Christianity. It examines how this generation, deeply rooted in traditional pagan beliefs, lived through the dramatic religious and political changes of the 4th century, including the rise of Christianity and the persecution of indigenous Occidental European religion and practices. The book analyzes why this generation was unable to anticipate or resist these changes.” https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21944976-the-final-pagan-generation
https://www.unz.com/article/slava-khazaria/#comment-7100393
“ Regarding the “white” west… it is ancient!!
Sapiens Sapiens Horsa and Hengest were not out of Africa, they were out of the far NW of Europe (“Doggerland” and North America! “The Great White North” Indeed! )
https://www.sciencenordic.com/anthropology-archaeology-denmark/dna-links-native-
americans-with-europeans/1393344
https://www.sciencenordic.com/ancient-dna-denmark-dna/scandinavians-are-the-earliest-
europeans/1410116
“this BEu component could not have come from the Middle East because modern Lithuanians are closer to K-14 than Stuttgart (Fig. S14), the alleged recipient of the Middle Eastern gene flow. So, the Middle Eastern populations must have received it from an UP European population related, first, to K-14, then to MA-1 and, finally, to Amerindians. This is why, while MA-1 ancestry is found across Sub-Saharan Africa, the BEu part of K14 ancestry is absolutely missing among Amerindians and Sahulians.
This proves that Africa was colonized from Eurasia by modern humans, while Amerindians and Sahulians are the two most unadmixed and isolated populations among modern humans. The importance of K14 for modern human origins, therefore, is that it represents a pivotal population in a state of transition from a New World ancestor of all modern humans to an ancestor of all modern Sub-Saharan African populations.”
http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2014/11/10/ancient-kostenki-14-markina-gora-
dna-a-glimpse-into-a-population-on-its-way-from-america-to-africa/ “
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
Cover modern Eastern Türkiye up to Ukraine.
Note the line of Regents include those with JEWISH/HEBREW Names.
Understand plenty of Jewish-Diaspora worked the Trade Routes and settled in those regions.
Also recall that allegedly (note the Hebrew Names of Regents) that their Aristocrats chose to convert to Judaism and/or Intermarried with the Jewish-Diaspora – either way the Diaspora allegedly ruled/lived_well in the Khagnate/Kingdom…
Like today’s Ukraine with Kolomoiskyy and now Zelenskyy through the Diaspora sponsored Campaign (notable failed Biden Misinformation Czar, add Nudelman-Khagan, Soros-Vassal Blinken, Yellen – all from the region)- rules over Ukraine, with Zelenskyy telling an Rabbi during a visit to Israel that he wanted to make Ukraine “another Israel”.
Note that the region corresponding to modern Eastern Türkiye contain a few towns named “Ishkenaz”. THOSE are the term, “Ashkenazi” most likely originated from; and how we have the “Ashkenazi Jewish” or more regionally accurate, “Khazar-Ashkenazi Jewish” Ethno-Religious Faction named themselves.
An Israeli Geneticist traced the DNA; and claimed that those towns named with variants of “Ishkenaz” are one if not the “Residential HQ” of the Ashkenazi Jewish. The “Europeanized” Ashkenazi refuted this for years; but since the Diaspora ran Trade Routes available (like most Trading Peoples of Land and Sea – hello?), Israel later acknowledged that the Ishkenaz Region is one of several locations the Diaspora settled in.
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The Khazar Khagnate were later defeated by the Forebearers of the Old Russia. So were the Jewish-Diaspora GeoPolitical Power Base steadily ruling a Country – directly instead of through Rentier-Bankers – in the region or in the rest of Europe – until recently.
Note Sarkozy the Diaspora Jewish President of France – murdering Quaddafi with the African_Gold_Dinar_NATO_War after rcvng Monies from him. Sarkozy went to Jail for some offenses, IIRC. Another Example? French President “Garçon” Macron – former executive of a Jewish-Diaspora Banking Group.
In Murica? Kissinger, some say Sotero-Obama’s mother was Jewish (need confirmation, I don’t GAF as I’m thumb typing all this on my phone), Blinken (Dad being a former Soros Exec), Nudelman-Khagan. Yellen, and the current MIGA/Israel-Firster/AIPAC-Adelsen pwned POTUS Donald J. Trump who staffed his 1st Cabinet with his Jewish-Diaspora Son-in-law Kushner and his 2nd with DoGE Czar Jewish-Diaspora Elon Musk(Secular – ethnically and raised as such)
The Khazar-Ashkenazi Jewish-Diaspora Faction waged their Conflicts, Wars, and Assassinations (recall recent Assassination of Soleimani of Iran) against Russian Oligarchs and Aristocrats.
The Khazar-Ashkenazi have been at War with Russia – finally getting the upper hand through the Bolshevik Revolution and the First Soviet Governments. Those Diaspora within the Soviet Union were later partially moved to an autonomous Oblast in East Asian Russia.
Another wave of power struggles triggered by the collapse of the Soviet Union saw many Russian Jewish Oligarchs – with the help of Western Rentier-Bankers and Economists who included PhD JEFFERY SACHS – plunder Russia until they were run out by Vladimir Vladimirovich PUTIN.
At the Present, the ousted Russian Oligarchs who “formed” an Alternative Government – happen to have a good number of Khazar-Ashkenazi Jewish-Diaspora Members…
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Wrapping up this S#!+S#0w, we’re witnessing a 1000~1100+year version of the “Same Song, Different Day” phrase…
…by the same “Core” Peoples…
…over the same Region…
…over the same Damn Reasons…
So much for this Epic ClusterFrack of over a Millennium…
…and some Tools like BoJo, Starmer and Macron are fanning the flames, with the Cocaine Clown Zelenskyy attacking Nuclear Power Plants to induce Reactor Core Meltdowns and proposing development+detonation of Nuke-mixed Dirty Bombs and actual Fission-driven Bombs(like Hiroshima).
Add to this still-heaping pile steaming up unto the heavens, all the 200+(?) evictions and deportation from European+North_African(?) Towns, Cities, and Nations over 2000 years – probably Loan Sharking, and the now “soon to be revised” 6-Million WW2 Nazi Casualty Count (birth/society_self_census/alleged_camp_death numbers don’t add up and Count due for dowarnd revision soon as everyone actually counted records) when Hitler HQ Plans allegedly were the Permanent Deportation of their Diaspora Abroad (e.g., Madagascar, scrapped due to GBR_RNavy), with mass murder undertaken by factions+units. Repeat- Hitler Commanding Ethnocidial_Eradications weren’t verified (though Factions, Units undertook), Gas_Chamber_MassMurders weren’t mentioned during the Tribunals(introduced by Soviets years later at allegedly one single location) –
It’s about time other Nation-States – including those within the Atlantic Masonic-Zionist Hegemony – to set up their Political Boundaries apart from the Greater Israel Collective of their State-Knesset and various Diaspora Communities?
Hegemony Members and Vassal-States are bound by the Hegemon-Plutarchy and their Vassal-Oligarchs of Govts, Rentier-Bankers, and Corporations. However, certain political and economic boundaries can be set by Nation-States and Individuals.
Israel can fund+fight their own Wars. This current Ukraine-Khazar/Russian War have NATOceania, €URoGarten, and their infused Jewish-Diaspora all joining hands with the Cocaine Clown; but the Hamas+Hizbollah PLO-Descendants are all Israel’s.
I’ve suggested Murica stop funding Israeli Wars save for joint R&D and for Israeli Bonds to be sold with reduced/zero taxes on CapGains+Interest_Income similar/same with U$Treasuries so Murican Jewish-Diaspora and Christo-Cult Zionists can put the monies where their mouths are and Murican Taxes can be allocated where they’re supposed to be – in the United States.
Dual Citizens to transfer to the IDF, with VA/Medi-care/Medic-aid/Social_Security available in Israel
If your Country allows you to agree/disagree/fact-check_without_prejudice with the aforementioned situations involving the Greater Israel Collective and their Diaspora Cocaine Clown Zelenskyy’s attempts at “re-Israelizing/”re-Khazar-Ashkenazing” Ukraine – good for you.
If you decide to maintain/allow/support/cease your affiliations with Jewish Political_Entities/Communities/Individuals – that’s up to you.
Just stick to the facts. Jesusneverexisted-dot-com, so as the Christian Cult Debunkment becomes more publicized – those who leave Christianity can unburden themselves from the implied “moral” imperative to support the Jewish and Israeli positions.
Tough to do so in Murica, worse in some Nation-States who may criminally charge death camp casualty accusations+numbers dissenters.
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Tall Fences make for Good Neighbors; and Tall Cultural+Political Boundaries make for Good Nation-States.
About time we defund+stop_arming this Cocaine Clown’s Regime and call back all Military Advisors+Mercs – evac them all; and let Trump+Bessent send in Agents to collect the Lend-Lease Debt owed to Murica by the sale of Lands and Minerals from what’s left of Kiev…
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One century after Khazaria Empire conversion to Judaism a Persian merchants traveling Khazaria recorded into chronicles: It is wonderful, only one hundred years after conversion and all the Khazaria is full of Judaists.
So your Zionist Hasbara disinfo about only nobility converted is false. As you are so much smart, answer please to this mystery/query:
What mystery have Zionist ideologues, propagandists and Mr. Unz NEVER managed to explain to the general public:
How is it possible that millions of Khazars, after converting to Judaism, mysteriously evaporated and within a split second all several million Khazars were replaced in their exact locations by “true Semites – descendants of biblical Jews”?
Clarification: If those millions of Khazars had evaporated, people in neighboring villages would have noticed the vapors, so those millions of Khazars had to sublimate and that within a split second, so that neighbors, wives, etc. wouldn’t even notice. And within a split second they were replaced by “true Semites”.
Is there any New Generation Zio propagandist here who has a new theory (without 3 kilometers long quotes from the Talmud) about this mystery?
April 22, 2024 Adolph Hitler is “The Torchbearer of Democracy” in Ukraine According to Chairman of Ukraine’s Parliament (2016-2019).
The Nazi faction within the Kiev government exerts its power in the realm of intelligence, internal affairs, national security and the military. It’s a proxy regime in liaison with its U.S.-NATO sponsors.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/hitler-is-the-torchbearer-of-democracy-according-to-chairman-of-ukraines-parliament/5653184
Abraham didn’t exist, he’s a mythical character invented in the 2nd century BC by Hellenized Jews.
good article
Israel is a fake country founded and populated by fake Jews from Khazaria and Pale of the Settlement. They converted to a fake Jewish religion that was re-invented in the 7th century A.D.
“The map is not the territory.”
Attributed to Polish scholar Alfred Korzybski, and who better than a Pole to understand that reality.
Look at this time lapse map of Poland and ask yourself, if you were Polish, on which era would you base your claim of ownership of the territory?
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Ukraine has a similar history of changing borders and rule by various powers, the Khazarian period being just one among many. So which would you choose when presenting a claim of ownership? Similar changes and claims are common to all European nations, to nations in general actually.
Another contribution of Korzybski is the concept of a ‘belief system.’ We all have one, absorbed since childhood from our particular culture. The important point about belief systems, apart from the fact that we all have one, is that they don’t have to be true to be effective. It helps if they bear some resemblance to reality, but that is not a prerequisite.
The point is, people act on what they believe to be true, whether it’s true or not. Thus digging around in the past to justify one’s position rarely comports with the facts, which themselves are hard to ascertain since, as the old adage implies, ‘history is written by the victor.’
With all that in mind, it seems pointless trying to establish the veracity of anyone’s claim to a particular piece of territory. If Ukraine was once a Khazarian empire, it no longer is. Britain was once ruled by Rome. How did that work out? More recently Königsberg changed hands and is now called Kaliningrad.
The bottom line is, historic claims and mythology aside, you can only keep what you can hold. You can construct a narrative (belief system) that justifies your current ownership, and that is useful for motivating the force you need to retain it, but in the end the determining factor is not the historic record but who can raise the most powerful army.
It was an interesting article albeit somewhat confusing. I guess it’s because of the complicated cultural mixing that occurred in the region. I’m somewhat confused by the “look” of Jews of Ashkenazi descent. I’m inclined to believe it’s from inbreeding rather than outbreeding. You can almost unquestionably spot a Jew. The classics are the Barbara Streisands,Adam Sandlers David Schwimmer,Alan Greenspan,EdwardG. Robinson, Henny Youngman,Rodney Dangerfield etc. etc. It’s an unmistakable look that transcends the Jewish name of… Victoria Nuland,Netanyahu,Kissinger. Maybe it’s the nose (air is free LOL) but even in non-jewish names ,look it up and SUPRISE ,Jewish. To me this speaks of inbreeding rather than outbreeding. Also look at how closely Jewish folk insist on not marrying outside of their religion. I think that’s also why Ashkenazi Jews have a high incidence of diseases unique to them, Tay-sachs is the only one that comes to mind.
For a primer on this re-invented religion called “Judaism” which was founded in the 7th century A.D. and based on the Talmud (a criticism of Christianity):
This plot has always seemed definitive to me: it shows visually that Ashkenazi DNA overlaps with Southern Italian and Sicilian DNA. Presumably, the two PCA dimensions summarize most, but not all, of the genetic variation.
“Italian” is the simple answer to the question of Jewish ancestry. The more complicated answer is that they also have Middle Eastern admixture.
The Venetians and Genoese had trading posts in Crimea and Azov.
They were not Venetians and Genoese by hybrid Italian Jews.
Here you see a PCA showing that Ashkenazi Jews are not at all close to Khazars.
Why are the Khazars defined as they are, with the light green marks? Abkhazian, Georgian, etc?
But, if you look at the pink marks (rectangles and diamonds, marking Georgian and Iranian Jews) mixed with and under the violet marks, that is pretty close to these light green Khazars.
It’s my understanding that Putin indeed said the fall of the Soviet Union was a geopolitical disaster but anyone would be crazy to want to see it restored. I’ll supply a link when I’m back at my desktop.
Through the CIA’s Project AERODYNAMIC (1947-1970) and OPERATION BELLADONA, the West was fomenting and supporting Bandera-inspired neo-nazism in Ukraine to subvert Russia since at least the 1940’s. Newer developments like the Azov and Aidar battalions and murder squads are all creations of the CIA. The CIA has used Salafism to destabilize and being about regime change in the Middle East and neo-nazism to destabilize and bring about regime change in Ukraine and Russia.
The Kiev prince, Vladimir I of the Rurik dynasty, is part of Russia’s historic heritage. Ukraine (The Outskirts) as a border land is diverse by definition.
https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/screenshot-2022-03-10-at-15-03-40-png.1453458/
The Khazar thesis doesn’t have much to support it. Turkic words made their way into Slavic languages and could have passed from them into Yiddish — or perhaps they passed directly from the remaining Tatars into Yiddish. Some Khazars may very well have merged into the Jewish population, others into the Russian or Turkic. There isn’t convincing genealogical or archaeological evidence to prove that there was a mass conversion of Khazars or that today’s Ashkenazim are of predominantly Khazar ancestry.
Are today’s Jews the Hebrews of the Bible? Genetically, there’s certainly a connection as there is between the Hebrews and today’s Palestinian Arabic population, but if 10% of the Roman Empire’s population professed some version of the Hebrew religion that complicates things. What further complicates things is the unclear line between religion and ethnicity. The problematic notion that lands that some of one’s ancestors occupied 2000 years ago are somehow one’s own by right complicates the Middle East situation even more.
It’s time to turn the tables on these Khazaria kikes once and for all and drive them out of all Western lands…The jew is the sheep and we have the shears…
No such thing as an Italian jew or a Roman jew…A jew is simple a jew nothing more, nothing less. Just because a jew, kike, heeb, yid lives in a particular country on this globe does not make it that ethnicity…Same with the negro, arab, oriental as lot of them claim falsely to be Western…
Fair point, though I think that using Slavic grammar is overkill in this case and would be confusing / interfere with the satirical nature of the slogan for English speakers
Patrick Armstrong has quoted Putin’s actual words, to wit, “Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century.” He then quotes Putin at length on his reasons for saying that. See link: https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2021/12/24/the-misquotation/
I haven’t been able to find anything Putin said in so many words that one would have to be crazy to try to recreate the USSR. However, it’s clear from Armstrong’s article that nothing Putin has said can be said to even hint at doing that.
One year before making the above statement, Putin said this:
“Our goals are very clear. We want high living standards and a safe, free and comfortable life. We want a mature democracy and a developed civil society. We want to strengthen Russia’s place in the world. But our main goal, I repeat, is to bring about a noticeable rise in our people’s prosperity.” (Address to the Federal Assembly, 26 May 2004”. (Same link.)
What if someone belonging to an ethnicity converts?
They are populations which overlap with areas historically associated with Khazaria
The discussion is only about the Ashkenazi Jews. Other jews are different.
The same is seen in this multidimensional scaling plot of the autosomal genetic distance matrix:
The EEJ (Eastern european Jews=Ashkenazi) are very far away from Russians (Ru), which would be the closest to Khazaria, and also very far away from the Palestinians (Pa).
Populations names are:
EEJ – Eastern European Jews, IqJ – Iraqi Jews, InJ – Iranian Jews, MJ – Moroccan Jews, YJ – Yemenite Jews, Pa – Palestinians, Tur – Turks, Gr – Greeks, It – Italians, Ge – Germans, Br – British, Fr – French, Ru – Russians, Po – Poles.
Squares represent Jews and circles non-Jews.
Colour indicates geographic region: red – Europe, green – Eastern Mediterranean, blue – Iran-Iraq, purpule – Arabian peninsula, yellow – North-Africa.
Here are some genetic studies showing why the Khazar myth is wrong:
Tian et al. also published a table of paired Fst distances based on 10,500 random SNPs, which demonstrates that Ashkenazi Jews are not at all close to the Adygei population [=Khazar], and similarly to what is seen in table 1, their smallest distance is to Italians and then to Greeks. Unlike the assertion of Need et al. on the midway position, and again similarly to what is seen in table 1, Italians and Greeks are closer to the Middle Eastern populations than Ashkenazi Jews.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964539/
During Greco-Roman times, recorded mass conversions led to 6 million people practicing Judaism in Roman times or up to 10% of the population of the Roman Empire. Thus, the genetic proximity of these European/Syrian Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi Jews, to each other and to French, Northern Italian, and Sardinian populations favors the idea of non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestry in the formation of the European/Syrian Jewish groups and is incompatible with theories that Ashkenazi Jews are for the most part the direct lineal descendants of converted Khazars or Slavs. The genetic proximity of Ashkenazi Jews to southern European populations has been observed in several other recent studies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/
Overall, we estimate that most (>80%) Ashkenazi mtDNAs were assimilated within Europe. Few derive from a Near Eastern source, and despite the recent revival of the ‘Khazar hypothesis’, virtually none are likely to have ancestry in the North Caucasus. These analyses suggest that the first major wave of assimilation probably took place in Mediterranean Europe, most likely in the Italian peninsula ~2 ka, with substantial further assimilation of minor founders in west/central Europe. There is less evidence for assimilation in Eastern Europe, and almost none for a source in the North Caucasus/Chuvashia, as would be predicted by the Khazar hypothesis,—rather, the results show strong genetic continuities between west and east European Ashkenazi communities, albeit with gradual clines of frequency of founders between east and west. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543
“We found that most of the maternal lineages don’t trace to the north Caucasus, which would be a proxy for the Khazarians, or to the Near East, but most of them emanate from Europe,” said coauthor Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in the U.K. https://www.the-scientist.com/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580
Loco-LD confirms and sharpens the lack of evidence for the Khazar hypothesis observed in PCA, placing the Ashkenazi Jewish sample in close proximity to Italian Jews, North African Jews, Sephardi Jews, and Mediterranean non-Jewish populations such as Cypriots and Italians. In brief, judging from the similarity of the membership proportion distributions (Figure 4), Admixture demonstrates the connection of Ashkenazi, North African, and Sephardi Jews, with the most similar non-Jewish populations to Ashkenazi Jews being Mediterranean Europeans from Italy (Sicily, Abruzzo, Tuscany), Greece, and Cyprus. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25079123/
It is plausible that, among Judeans who moved to the region around the Black Sea, there were women belonging to the Judean-European community in Greece, Italy, or Anatolia who were the source of the major and minor mtDNA lineages in East European Ashkenazis. Later, during the eighth and tenth centuries, Jewish women with their families from Byzantium (certainly Italy, and Greece) arrived in Khazaria, who may have been carriers of K1a1b1a and N1b2 (and most of the minor lineages) as well.
Ashkenazic Jews and the Biblical Israelites 2021
Per the Table of Nations in The Bible (Genesis 10) Noah had three sons. One of his son’s was Japheth. Japheth’s son was Gomer and Gomer’s son was “Ashkenaz”. Ashenaz is the origin of the Ashkenazi Jews. Japheth’s lineage gave rise to gentiles. Whereas Noah’s son Shem gave rise to the Hebrews/Jews. Therefore, anyone from the lineage of Japheth would be a gentile and not a Jew by blood-line/race/ethnicity.
RE: the topic Ashkenaz & Ancient Khazaria.
Several years ago, I read Arthur Koestler’s book “The Thirteenth Tribe” and thought it fascinating & insightful. I have also read Benjamin H. Freedman’s 1954 publication “Facts are Facts – The Truth About Khazars” and found it equally interesting.
Per Koestler’s book, The Khazarian Empire had its beginning in approx. A.D. 100. The Khazars were a fierce nomadic warring people driven out of Asia by numerous defeats by their neighbors. The Khazars invaded Europe over the land route between the north end of the Caspian Sea and the south end of the Ural Mountains. They moved west and conquered twenty-five or so mostly agricultural nations with little resistance. This then became the Khazarian Empire. It stretched west to Poland, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria (including Ukraine) and north to within a few hundred miles south of present-day Saint Petersburg. South to the Caucasus Mountains, and east to the Ural Mountains near modern-day Perm. The Khazar Empire flourished in the Dark Ages, the seventh to tenth centuries, between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, an area called Caucasia where the Aryans originated. At its height, it included an area occupying approx. 1,000,000 square miles.
The Khazars were a Pagan civilization, and in a short period in history, became the largest and most powerful kingdom in Europe and possibly the wealthiest also. Their religious worship was a mixture of phallic worship, vile forms of sexual excess and other forms of idolatrous worship practiced in Asia by pagan nations. This pagan worship continued into the seventh century producing a high degree of degeneracy that the Khazarian King could no longer endure. The King decided to adopt/convert to Talmudism (known today as Judaism) and made it the state religion. Large number of Rabbis from Babylonia were invited to come and open synagogues and schools to instruct the population in the new state religion. The ideologies of the Talmud (the civil & religious code of the Pharisees) became the axis of political, cultural, economic and social attitudes and activities throughout the Khazarian Kingdom. The Talmud provided civil and religious law.
When the Khazars first invaded eastern Europe, their mother-tongue was an Asiatic language, referred to in the Jewish Encyclopedia as the ‘Khazar Languages”. They were primitive Asiatic dialects without any written alphabet or any written form. When the King was converted in the seventh century, he decreed that the Hebrew characters that he saw in the Talmud and other Hebrew documents was to become the alphabet for the Khazar language. The Hebrew characters were adopted to the phonics of the spoken Khazar language. The Khazars adopted the characters in order to provide a means for a written record of their speech. The present-day language of the Khazars is known as “Yiddish”. The Khazars adapated words to their requirements from the German , the Baltic, and the Salvonic languages. The Khazars adopted a great number of words from the German language since the Germans had a much more advanced civilization than the Khazars and the Khazars sent their children to German schools and higher learning institutions. However, the “Yiddish” is not a German dialect.
During the 10th-13th centuries, the rapidly expanding Russian nation gradually swallowed up the Khazarian Kingdom. After the fall of the Khazarian Kingdom, the people were known as “Yiddish” in Russia and Eastern Europe (as they are to this day). The Khazarian King and his wives and concubines fled to Spain with many family members and some went to Hungary and Poland, but the mass of the people stayed in their native area.
Jews of our era fall into two main categories: 1) The Ashkenazim Jew associated with (Eastern Europe) Germany, Hungary, Poland, Ukraine, etc.which shared culture and border with the Khazarian empire and received he migration of “Yiddish” people from the disintegrating Khazarian Kingdom. 2.) The Sephardim Jews who are the descendants of the Spanish Jews that were expelled from Spain in 1492.
Now we are all wondering who are the majority of the people who call themselves Jews throughout the world today (specifically those who live in countries such as: Israel, U.S., U.K, Eastern Europe, etc.).
Here is some additional information that I found interesting since reading the book.
Encyclopedia of Ukraine -Zionism was born in Ukraine
Zionist movement (encyclopediaofukraine.com)
Wikipedia – History of the Jews in Ukraine
History of the Jews in Ukraine – Wikipedia
8th Tribal Festival in Belarus
28 may 2017 Gala Show “The breathing of times”
YouTube Video (total time 3 min./44 sec.)
Serpent Dance performed by Ukrainian Dancer
(subtitles state “Tash – Ukraine” at 21-29 sec. and 3:14 -3:24 min. markers)
“Celts.Druids” – Tash @ Tribal Festival in Belarus 2017 – YouTube
List of Ukrainian Jews – Wikipedia
Here are just a few:
Atony Blinken (current U.S. Secretary of State) – great grandfather from Kyiv, Ukraine (per Wikipedia)
Leon Trotsky (Soviet politician, founder of Red Army, commissar (Soviet minister) of Foreign Affairs)
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (second Pres. of Israel)
Levi Eshkol (Prime Minister of Israel)
Golda Meir (Prime Minister of Israel)
Moshe Sharett (Prime Minister of Israel)
Ruth Bader Ginsberg (Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of U.S.A.)
Astana – The Future New World Order City Capital of Kazakhstan
Astana The Future New World Order City Capital of Kazakhstan – YouTube
Many gentile people down through history (even today) have been converted to Judaism. Judaism is NOT the religion of the Old Testament but is the religion of the Pharisees (Talmud and Kabbalah).
In (Matthew 23:15) Jesus rebukes the scribes and Pharisees stating “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” In this passage, Jesus exposes the scribes and Pharisees practice of converting gentiles to Judaism (the Oral Law and Kabbalah).
A proselyte was an individual that comes over from a foreign nation, religion, or sect as a convert. Among the Jews there were two kinds of proselytes: 1.) “Proselytes of righteousness,” or those who wholly and fully embraced the Jewish religion, who were baptized, who were circumcised, and who conformed to all the rites of the Mosaic institutions. 2.) “Proselytes of the gate,” or those who approved of the Jewish religion, renounced the pagan superstitions, and conformed to some of the rites of the Jews, but were not circumcised or baptized. Twofold more the child of hell meant twice as bad. To be a child of hell was a Hebrew phrase, signifying to be deserving of hell, to be awfully wicked. The Pharisees gained them either to swell their own numbers, or to make gain by extorting their money under various pretenses; and when they had accomplished that, they took no pains to instruct them or to restrain them. They had renounced their superstition which had before somewhat restrained them, but the Pharisees had given them no religion in its place to restrain them, and they were consequently left to the full indulgence of their vices.
In the Revelation of the Apostle John, he also exposes those who are proselytes of Judaism’s in the following two verses: (Revelation 2:9) “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 3:9) “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
See Also
– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine
Agreed, but IMHO you are unlikely to win friends and influence any people you term ‘stupid’ to their face.
Now I’ve had a quick squiz at your qed.exposed/ site, being interested in ‘Ashkenazim-Khazars’.
I have a request, namely as I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t do podcasts except from a script, could you supply texts of the most interesting parts, namely your proof(s) of ‘Ashkenazim = Khazars’ derivation?
As explanation, I mostly don’t ‘do’ media = video/podcasts. Thanks in advance. rgds
Interesting article. It raises questions. Indeed this land starting from Dnister to the west and ending to the Don in the east is a riddle with constant flourishing and suddenly depopulation at least in the last millennium. With shifting ethnicity which comute and reverse multiple times in less then four generations. And if it is true, also the spot with the most diverse R1a haplogroup.
The only error I noticed:
Vlad the Impaler was descendent of Basarab family of romanian ethnicity, or even more of old dacian extraction with not any known cuman admixture. A family which in the time of Vlad the Impaler it had already more than 200 years known by today historians. Probably it was much more older. Basarab family was the principal ruling dynasty of Valachia (and sometimes of Moldavia also) till the end of XVII century.
So many different jews with common
characteristics: liars, thieves, cowards,
violent, murderers, depraved, psycho.
100% coal black evil straight from Hell.
From where? Hell.
5ds
Mike—Thanks for posting this. I had no idea—This is very disturbing–the size of that building is just mind blowing–a synagogue–and their arrogance–and their claim over a (nominal) Christian land—just Wow. I’m rather shocked to put it mildly and I’m trying to wrap my mind around the implications this has. An Act of Triumphalism — of Chutzpah. A Chutzpah song!
IMHO, it is time to abandon any search for rational explanations. I regard religion, especially All Three Abrahamic Religions, as totally irrational.
((They)) shriek/assert
((They)) shriek/assert
((They)) shriek/assert
As religion, possibly a revelation for some: ((They)) are totally irrational.
[my bolding] ((They)) assert control over ‘the West’ + anywhere else ((they)) have a foothold, governments, bureaucracies, media + Hollywood etc..
skrik’s ToE [Theory of Everything]: The US rogue regime = US-M/I/C/4a†-plex, with dog-wagging-tail, its illegitimate sprog the Zionist/Israeli rogue regime + Js = I/J/Z-plex, all components rife with corruption.
a = academic = econ, psy, leg et al.; 4 = MSM+PFBCs, † = churches
add a few significant stragglers like $ = banksters & ¿ = spies
Now there is some questioning of which is the dog and which is the tail, I’m willing to revise the above to that reverse.
skrik’s US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc..
Back to the JP; ((they)) fully utilise propaganda to send us on wild goose chases, like who/what ((they)) are [Khazars perhaps? No? Cretins from the moon?]
Posit: When obfuscation rules, somebody is trying to hide something, usually some heinously vile crime – here, ((their)) [alien invasion, illegal squatting, genocide] crimes.
It’s time! – To stop ((their)) vile, ultimate-war-criminal depredations and bring ((them)) [order-givers and -takers both] to justice, then boot ((them)) all out of Palestine, extracting punitive reparations on ((their)) way out. rgds
One of the twentieth century’s greatest minds was Ludwig Wittgenstein, a 75% Jew who was baptized as a Catholic. Wittgenstein was always worried his Jewish genetics would limit him to being merely a reproductive thinker. As Wittgenstein explained the Jewish mind:
Another great Jewish mind had a similar observation:
Yeah! Let’s rock ‘n’ roll. Shoot ’em up, String ’em up, Cook ’em up. Sheeeeiiiit.
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Hocus Pocus Focus. Foc us.
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Lead on, Brother. I’m right behind you all the way. No need to look back to see if I’m there.
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I really wanted in live among the Dutch Mountains on my own houseboat in Amsterdam. But The Trend turned toward the downside.
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Cromie,
Yiddish is the Jewish devised dialect of Continental Saxon for Jews. -> Correct!
It is linguistically Germanic. -> Incorrect.
And Germanic pagans destroyed the Western Roman Empire. -> Incorrect.
Take these corrections into account and start from the beginning. You’re on the right track.
Don’t forget – the Saxons (e.g. Catherine the Great) were not Germans.
Also – the Goths (aka the Dacians) were not Germans.
Almost everything is completely wrong. If you knew when the Germans came from Asia to Europe (the Germans are not Aryans!) and when they entered the territory of present-day Germany, many things would be clearer to you.
The Germanic’s who took down post Constantine judeao-christianized Rome were Arian’s. -> Incorrect.
The Arian Germanic conquests of Rome refer to the numerous invasions and eventual collapse of the Western Roman Empire by various Germanic tribes… -> Incorrect.
These Germanic tribes, including the Visigoths, Vandals, Ostrogoths, -> Incorrect, they were not Germans.
Arian Christianity, which held that Jesus Christ was not fully divine but rather a created being, was adopted by several Germanic tribes before their interactions with the Roman Empire. -> Incorrect.
the ancient high Occidental culture and civilization -> LOL.
persecution of indigenous Occidental European religion and practices. -> LOL.
The Vandals were a Serbian tribe that crossed into Africa via Spain ((V)Andalusia got name from them) and Gibraltar and founded an advanced kingdom in modern Tunis that ruled the Mediterranean.
Justinian was the Serbian-Roman emperor (so as Constantine), who wanted to include them in the Empire, so he sent his general (also a Serb) Belisarius to defeat them militarily. The Vandals were followers of Arinaism. In the end, Belisarius still managed to defeat the Vandals in that Serbian civil war, overthrow their kingdom, and include them in the Empire.
There was a second 13-year-long Serbian civil war in which Justinian again wanted to incorporate the young independent Serbian state created on the foundations of the Western Roman Empire, just a few years after its fall, into the Roman Empire, but that’s another story.
Just don’t forget – the Germans were neither Goths (aka Dacians) nor Aryans, even tulip knows that, unlike those who crawled out from under a rock yesterday.
Dimi, correct for Cumans as I already said.
It’s a shame that Vlad’s descendant, Shirley the Impaler, didn’t come forward to confirm. Vlad couldn’t have been Romanian ethnicity, since that nation (and their language) was invented by the Jesuits 500 years after him.
But it’s interesting that you also mentioned the possibility that he was a descendant of the Dacians. That’s true and that applies to other modern Romanians as well, not some Mickey Mouse stories about retired Roman soldiers, who supposedly brought Latin and destroyed the original, European-indigenous, Serbo-Dacian language.
Thank you. This has all been a complete education on this area for me.
Brotherly love through anal intercourse is what you do after you lube a witcher (of Black Magic from Chabad).
Well, frankly, that reply didn’t seem super respectful.
Never mind the USSR. How about resurrecting the Russian Empire, and you can throw in Finland for good measure?
So do the Khazars or AshkeNazi Jews or whoever they are deserve to have their own New Yiddish Khazaria in the rump Ukraine? I would have expected the OP to answer this question in the article.
How about breaking up the Ukraine into three parts: a Russian east, a NeoNazi Banderite West and an AshkeNazi Khazar Jewish central part? Had the eastern regions become truly independent, they would have probably adopted some novel system based on a mix of Neo-communism and Orthodoxy, but that would have been unacceptable to both Russia and the Ukraine. Ukraine tried to suppress this Neo-communist Orthodox independence movement by throwing its NeoNazis at it. Russia had no choice but to step in to save the Russians in the east. In the process it decided to annex these regions rather than let them develop as independent countries based on some new system which could eventually threaten the Russian oligarchy.
It looks like Russians will not be able to deNazify the Ukraine as new generations of NeoNazis are raised through the education system and the military summer camps for kids, unless they nuke Lvov and the rest of Western Ukraine. So should they let the NeoNazis have that western part?
I suppose the Russians can now close down Birobijan as an autonomous Jewish province. What’s the point of it if there are hardly any Jews there?
LMAO. Thirteen hundred years ago? So in 1300 years, Khazars didn’t move from those ancestral homelands?
But “Jews” of the ME did!
This is your actual argument – that while I’m supposed to blithely buy the post-Rome diaspora story, the same logic doesn’t apply to Khazaria? Despite very detailed narratives – like the source documents for this work
https://archive.org/details/blood-passover-the-jews-of-europe-and-ritual-murder-by-ariel-toaff-z-lib.org
… that discuss at length the difference between the “native”, generally Sephardic, Italian jews and the newcomer Ashkenazis?
Ridiculous pseudo science bullshit. When is Unz gonna weigh in and swing his Hahvahd degree around?
The Venetian bankers and the Genoese colonies in the Black Sea were a funny bunch. Their relationship to Constantinople and to the interior of Russia is a very strange story.
https://www.unz.com/article/slava-khazaria/#comment-7100393
Arianism is a religion, it is not Arya!
Sapiens Sapiens Horsa and Hengest were not out of Africa, they were out of the far NW of Europe (“Doggerland” and North America! “The Great White North” Indeed! )
Sapiens Sapiens came first from the Great White North West of Europe and North America and went EAST! They did not crawl out of africa to the middle east and then into Europe and Asia! (jewish bullshit!)
https://www.sciencenordic.com/anthropology-archaeology-denmark/dna-links-native-
americans-with-europeans/1393344
https://www.sciencenordic.com/ancient-dna-denmark-dna/scandinavians-are-the-earliest-
europeans/1410116
“this BEu component could not have come from the Middle East because modern Lithuanians are closer to K-14 than Stuttgart (Fig. S14), the alleged recipient of the Middle Eastern gene flow. So, the Middle Eastern populations must have received it from an UP European population related, first, to K-14, then to MA-1 and, finally, to Amerindians. This is why, while MA-1 ancestry is found across Sub-Saharan Africa, the BEu part of K14 ancestry is absolutely missing among Amerindians and Sahulians.
This proves that Africa was colonized from Eurasia by modern humans, while Amerindians and Sahulians are the two most unadmixed and isolated populations among modern humans. The importance of K14 for modern human origins, therefore, is that it represents a pivotal population in a state of transition from a New World ancestor of all modern humans to an ancestor of all modern Sub-Saharan African populations.”
http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2014/11/10/ancient-kostenki-14-markina-gora-
dna-a-glimpse-into-a-population-on-its-way-from-america-to-africa/
Holy Moses! You don’t even know what rock n’ roll is.
Fake Hebrew Zionist jew men only dance with other faggot Hebrew Zionist jew men. They’re all butt buddies like Poupon Marx. Everybody knows it!
Ain’t that right P Marx?
A worthy goal. Putin can see how Trump manages to reincorporate Panama and go from there. The rules-based international order is probably flexible enough in the right hands to establish the legalities.
Speaking of the Russian Empire, I recall its involvement in WWI weakened the czar and he was unable deal with later internal disorder. The US is making the same mistake. The Bolsheviks are doing immense damage inside the government and with the NGOs, this time with the addition of intellectual befuddlement of epic proportions. “Diversity,” “equity,” “social justice,” “far-right,” “fascist,” “neo-Nazi,” “anti-semitism,” “only ally in the Middle East,” “color revolution,” “democracy,” “women’s health,” “asylum,” “undocumented,” “baseless claims,” “mis/disinformation,” “insurrection,” “disparate impact,” and “compassion” don’t you know.
Additionally, Y Haplogroup CT is not out of Africa. They went into Africa.
If the mega-haplogroups of the Africa model were real, including BT, CT, CF and F, it would mean that numerous alleles would be shared between these haplogroups and several ancient A1b1b2
samples, which is unexpected and unseen in present day samples.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.10.986042v1.full.pdf
Y-DNA analysis shows that Europeans do not share a Y-chromosomal connection to Africa at all, suggesting that their paternal line has no source in Africa. https://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation?PaperID=19566
Basal BT* has not been documented in any living individuals or ancient remains. No definite examples of BT(xCF,DE) – i.e. members of BT outside the only two known branches of CT, namely haplogroups CF and DE – have been identified.
Additionally, Y Haplogroup CT is not out of Africa. They went into Africa.
If the mega-haplogroups of the Africa model were real, including BT, CT, CF and F, it would mean that numerous alleles would be shared between these haplogroups and several ancient A1b1b2
samples, which is unexpected and unseen in present day samples.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.10.986042v1.full.pdf
Y-DNA analysis shows that Europeans do not share a Y-chromosomal connection to Africa at all, suggesting that their paternal line has no source in Africa. https://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation?PaperID=19566
Basal BT* has not been documented in any living individuals or ancient remains. No definite examples of BT(xCF,DE) – i.e. members of BT outside the only two known branches of CT, namely haplogroups CF and DE – have been identified.
Re: Tharbis says:
April 27, 2025 at 12:03 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago • 200 Words ↑
@Odyssey
Arianism is a religion, it is not Arya!
Sapiens Sapiens Horsa and Hengest were not out of Africa, they were out of the far NW of Europe (“Doggerland” and North America! “The Great White North” Indeed! )
Sapiens Sapiens came first from the Great White North West of Europe and North America and went EAST! They did not crawl out of africa to the middle east and then into Europe and Asia! (jewish bullshit!)
https://www.sciencenordic.com/anthropology-archaeology-denmark/dna-links-native-
americans-with-europeans/1393344
https://www.sciencenordic.com/ancient-dna-denmark-dna/scandinavians-are-the-earliest-
europeans/1410116
“this BEu component could not have come from the Middle East because modern Lithuanians are closer to K-14 than Stuttgart (Fig. S14), the alleged recipient of the Middle Eastern gene flow. So, the Middle Eastern populations must have received it from an UP European population related, first, to K-14, then to MA-1 and, finally, to Amerindians. This is why, while MA-1 ancestry is found across Sub-Saharan Africa, the BEu part of K14 ancestry is absolutely missing among Amerindians and Sahulians.
This proves that Africa was colonized from Eurasia by modern humans, while Amerindians and Sahulians are the two most unadmixed and isolated populations among modern humans. The importance of K14 for modern human origins, therefore, is that it represents a pivotal population in a state of transition from a New World ancestor of all modern humans to an ancestor of all modern Sub-Saharan African populations.”
http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/blog/2014/11/10/ancient-kostenki-14-markina-gora-
dna-a-glimpse-into-a-population-on-its-way-from-america-to-africa/
Comment 8 and 38 are from a known disinfo peddler who’s been posted here by his Jewish benefactors to propagate his garbage (so that Malignant International Jewry can maintain the myth that the Ashke-nasties have a bloodline relationship to the Jews of antiquity – this gives them an excuse for stealing Palestine from its rightful owners).
I’ve crossed paths before with you ‘Bert’ (my guess is that you’re a Shlomo) in previous UR threads, where you’ve gone out of your way to smear the Khazar Reality (I used the word ‘reality’ since it’s not just a hypothesis – the evidence is overwhelming).
UR readers need only watch the first minute or so of the following video, as Noam Chomsky admits that the Ashke-nasties are all Khazars:
Video Link
UR readers should pay close attention to the Jew that is interviewing Chomsky who says:
‘There’s a theory that is WIDELY ACCEPTED as anti-Semitic, that Ashke-nasty Jews come from the Khazars …’.
Widely accepted [as anti-Semitic] by eff’n who? That’s right – ONLY by Jews.
Can you see what is going on here UR readers?
Malignant International Jewry have mobilised all their resources (some of the liars are to be found in the comments of this very thread), to claim that anyone who advocates for the ‘Khazar Theory’ is an anti-Semite.
The idiot who posted comments # 8 & 38 is a known liar.
And the fool with the handle ‘Bert’ is his trusty sidekick. Both are lacking in integrity.
Be sure to swat them down whenever you encounter them UR readers.
As a Jew yourself (and one I’ve personally observed posting B.S in the past), you would say that, wouldn’t you.
Kusmiak, your opinions on various matters are less than reliable.
Your “thinking” is so disordered that you did not realize that Comment 8 and Comment 38 were posted under different anonymous numerals. Anonymous 190 posted Comment 8 and Anonymous 411 posted Comment 38. That means that you cannot possibly know whether the two comments were posted by the same person, or not. There is no evidence that they were. You are the kind of fool who gums up the conversation here. There are many disinformation peddlers on TUR and you are the biggest TURD among them. TURD = The Unz Review Disinformer
The Middle Eastern admixture is over-estimated for the following reasons:
First, obviosuly the Jewish geneticists want you to believe that Jews are genetically from the land of Israel, the Levantine:
The genetic studies show that Ashkenazi are closer to southern Europe than to Levantine:
65 percent Italian and 80 percent EU:
70 percent:
For the mtDNA, the south european ancestry is very high:
Another problem is that older studies falsely claimed that K1a9 and N1b2 might derive from “Near Eastern” sources, however:
Finally, as far as there is a Levantine component in Ashkenazi, it is a result of the Levantine component in Italians, and in the populations that migrated into Italy over time.
Italians have a much stronger Middle Eastern component. For instance the Early European Farmers EEF were replaced by the steppe populations in northern Europe, but in southern Europe the EEF survived.
Thanks for digging up Patrick Armstrong’s article. I had already verified Putin’s words before I went on record with his sentiments here, as is my routine practice with anything I say that’s controversial.
There are no articles (a, the) in the Russian language, and so one has to rely on context when translating Russian into English.
The Russian superlative adjective крупнейший means “the greatest, or the biggest.” It is the superlative form of the adjective крупный meaning “large or big,” and is often used to indicate size or importance.
In English, we don’t form superlatives with the article “a” or say “a greatest” so it was “The Greatest Show on Earth,” and not “A Greatest Show on Earth,” and we say “the ugliest car in the lot” not “an ugliest car in the lot.”
Perhaps Putin called it the greatest geopolitical disaster of the century (for Russia) simply because the Russians were faced with the consequences of the fact that the Americans couldn’t be trusted to stand by anything they said, witness U.S. Pres. George HW Bush’s Sec. State James Baker’s assurances to Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would expand “not one inch eastward.”
But instead of honoring that promise by dismantling NATO to match the Warsaw Pact’s dissolution in 1991, NATO took advantage of the opportunity to add 16 new members and expand eastward about 1,000 miles, right up to Russia’s front door, while selling the Europeans a host of F-16s and other advanced military hardware in the process.
All of that perfidy is what led up to the current ongoing conflict in Ukraine.
[bolding as in original] Hardly a surprise.
Google: origin of decalogue wiki
1st response:
((They)) try to justify ((their)) vile to vilest of sins by saying:
Well, I have a lemma:
((They)) break commandments continuously:
From “the Decalogue” [according to the Hebrew Bible, given by YHWH to Moses]:
((They)) presumably have their own lemmas, most ‘exercised’:
[Using Trump-provided MK-84 Bombs, dropped from US-provided F-35 Lightning IIs.]
Posit: Perpetrators are the guilty parties; blame cannot be shifted to some [nonexistent!] God.
I would recommend the author to read the following book:
Gumilev, L.N.(1989), “Ancient Rus and the Great Steppe”.
This book has a lot about Khazaria.
It seems that it was not published in English, but you can find a translation online. I just don’t know how complete and accurate it is.
“using Slavic grammar is overkill in this case and would be confusing / interfere with the satirical nature of the slogan for English speakers”
“satirical nature”??????? You’re like the kid who falls and says he meant to go down
I gethered from Armstrong there is a different way of expressing superlatives in Russian. However, I think the context that Armstrong provides makes clear what Putin was trying to say.
I think the lack of trust is a separate issue. Russia was indeed abused by, inter alia, the eastward expansion of NATO contrary to all US assurances. And neither Trump nor any other Western leader is willing to acknowledge that. No. The cause of the conflict in Ukraine is “Russian aggression.” End of story. No mention of NATO expansion, color revolution, ultranationalism directed at Russian speakers, AZOV nutjobs, Ukrainian murderous attacks on the Donbas, biolabs, Russian sensitivity to invasion from the west, US attacks on Serbia and Libya, or, so help me God, the Monroesky Doctrine.
But I’m splitting hairs.
There are indeed other ways of expressing superlatives in Russian, but there is only one correct way to translate Putin’s expression «крупнейшей геополитической катастрофой века» into good English, and Google Translate gives it exactly as I did:
Apparently Mr. Armstrong doesn’t speak Russian, but I do. And of course you can easily check for yourself using Google Translate.
That said, Armstrong does arrive at the correct interpretation of Putin’s words if not the exact translation of them.
I can’t read Putin’s mind, but he had expressed a desire to improve the lives of Russian citizens. Reducing tension and defense spending would have been a good way of doing it, but events have not played out that way, and Russia’s defense spending has surged in recent years even as the lives of ordinary Russians seem to have improved.
Of course I’m relying on media reports rather than first-hand experience, and I can’t really tell from here if the many Western boycotts have had any significant effect on the lives of ordinary Russians.
Yes you can. By inference, correlation of reports, data, (Bank of Russia reports), and other hard sources of statistical and financial feeds. Then you look at the anecdotal, or personal reports of various groups, Russians, immigrants, young, old. You follow one source to another, if they are linked in actuality or implication.
Many decisions and opinions are based on limited empirical and sensory data or knowledge. Where that ends is projection, extrapolation, and relational methods that include past experience of a general or specific type.
For example, if you have visited several countries similar [or not] you will have noticed commonalities, differences, cause-effect relationships and correlation: given one or more independent variables, comes and leads to dependent variables and hypotheses. Without that ability, referred as abstract thinking, we would be stuck with lower animals.
Finally, there are real people involved in various roles. To fully expect to propound or predict, the factors of personality and personages must be considered. For example, an effort must be made to create a personality profile of key players, with sufficient depth and methodology. Knowing that or coming close to it, will aid in predictive value. I believe that Jungian Analytic Psychology is the most powerful and useful lens in which to assess and assay the whole person’s Ego and Persona. Reference: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Products-and-Services/Myers-Briggs
These are tools that wise people use, while wisdom is a very scarce trait and general ability in the leadership of the West.
Video Link
The best part of you ran down yo mamos leg, Cuz.
It puzzles me why you insist so much that the Ashkenazi are converted Khazars. By doing so, you achieve exactly the opposite of what you want. It would mean that Zelensky and the rest of the team around him are legitimately fighting, not for Ukraine, but for Khazaria, to which, according to you, they have a historical right.
Linguistics is more authoritative here than genetics (although it also goes against your thesis) and it is simply impossible that the Khazars forgot their original language and started speaking Yiddish, which is supposedly a German dialect (and it is not). Your explanation for this is simply ridiculous, that supposedly the Ashkenazi came from Germany (like the Germans who were invited to come as colonists to the uninhabited areas of the empire) and that they transmitted Yiddish to the local Jews.
So who were these Ashkenazi in Germany? Converted Khazars? When did they come to Western Europe so en masse but imperceptibly and when?
I’m patient, so here it is again.
A very small percentage of Ashkenazim are of Khazar origin (based on the literature I would say about 5% or so). Yiddish has nothing to do with Turkic languages and it is unclear to you whether it came from the East to the West or vice versa.
Secondly, Yiddish is an older language than German (Telemach’s thesis) although it has a lot of German words. The reason for all these doubts is ignorance of history although I really try to open everyone’s eyes. Many simply don’t want to see an 800 pound gorilla in the room.
And Ron also made a mistake in his Punic hypothesis (which does not explain the Penelope Paradox). Perhaps in his next text on this topic he will correct the mistake that the so-called Odyssey’s hypothesis/theory has already corrected.
Until then, we will listen to incredible constructions without any basis. Simply exposing the meaning of the word kike on these pages (incidentally, the AJC has still not changed the incorrect meaning on their website) was half the solution to that problem.
When an ‘Anonymous’ commenter is allocated a number, said number does not stick with them for life.
We KNOW this with 100% certainty because Anonymous comments are allocated a 3 digit number, and over the years there are likely to have been tens of thousands of distinct entities that posted a comment under the Anonymous banner.
I’ve noticed that when a particular Anonymous comment is posted, if that individual makes another comment in the same thread in quick succession (ie: within a few hours of their first comment or perhaps within a day of their last entry), they are allocated the same 3 digit number.
But if they appear later on posting comments in another thread (or even in the same thread after some days have elapsed), they’re allocated a DIFFERENT 3 digit number.
But you ‘Bertie’ are too stupid to be aware of these things.
Instead, you spend the vast majority of your time shilling for the falsehood that the ‘Ashke-nasties are descended from the biblical Jews’.
Well, no one is paying attention to any of it. You’re obviously doing this on behalf of your yarmulke wearing pals/relatives.
Your paranoia is showing. That you are intensely interested in tracking an individual commenter through his various Anonymous numerals is frankly crazy.
The Khazar-theory seem very plausible, explaining the quite extensive Jewish population in the Pale.
You are clever, aren’t you!
“Legitimately fighting for Khazaria”!
So wherever the the turc-mongol or polish-amalek shat 1000 years ago, he damn well gonna shit on again?
They were legitimately vanquished by prince Sviatoslav in Anno Domini 968.
but your mamma liked it!
And, I’m not your “Cuz”
I’m not related to any fake Hebrew Zionist jews – unlike you.
Ain’t that right butt buddy?
I go where the deluge of verifiable evidence takes me. Why should that puzzle you?
If it achieves what I want, well and good. If it doesn’t then I need to cop it on the chin.
One should never twist the facts to suit ones desired outcome.
You go on to say:
I have never claimed that anyone has a right to conquer territories because their alleged forebears once resided there a millennium or more ago.
It is the Ashke-nasties that are using this as a pretext for stealing Palestinian lands – and I have never, for one second, condoned it.
As for Zelensky, every man and his dog is aware that he’s not ‘fighting to reclaim Khazaria’, and that there is nothing legitimate about what he’s doing.
FFS, before he provoked Putin into the SMO by shelling and murdering countless 1000’s of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, he ALREADY had Khazaria (or the bulk of it anyway), in his possession.
No one was threatening to take it away from him.
It is CLEAR to all that Zelensky is a PAID ACTOR reading from a ZOG dictated script – in the same way that every western politician of significance is a also a ZOG sock puppet (esp. everyone that rises to the office of U.S President).
And that script said he should sacrifice the lives of millions of Ukrainian Orthodox christian boys, with the intention that this would destabilise/weaken/lead to civil unrest and regime change in Russia (making it easier to Balkanise the Russian Federation in smaller statelets, and thereafter to loot and pillage it for its resources).
Zelensky has NO agenda of his own – other than personal enrichment.
You also write:
Linguistics is the LEAST authoritative field of study that will provide the ironclad answers.
Throughout history countless races/tribes have been conquered/butchered/annihilated/sold into slavery etc, and their language has disappeared in its entirety (sometimes within a time frame of 200 years or less).
Take for example the regions of eastern Prussia that were ceded to Poland after WWI.
My understanding is that the Germanic peoples in those regions were not allowed to teach the German language, be that at school or at home (ie: no German newspapers, books, publications, radio broadcasts etc). They were forced to assimilate into being 100% Polish.
For certain the old timers would still speak German to the young ones behind closed doors, but within a few generations this attempt at retention of the cultural identity would disappear entirely.
Meanwhile, you can keep believing whatever amuses you.
But among those honest [and learned] Jews that don’t have an axe to grind, THEY themselves are admitting that the research overwhelmingly points to the Ashke-nasties being Khazars.
This episode of Martyanov’s broadcast was a laugh.
Well, you seem like the result of a clandestine affair between Aqualung and Bobby Brown. One of which had a vagina. Or you were a butt h*le baby.
That brown ring around your third leg in the morning is either Skol or fecalatious. Take a sample to a reputable lab.
Those wild nights at Yo Ma N*gger Disco have unforeskin consequences. How severe is your retardation?
Oy Vey!
Like every other fake Hebrew Zionist jew, you’re a smut talking butt buddy smuck.
Perversion is what drives your kind. So, only filth comes out of your mouth. Everybody knows it’s true!
But you’re different. You might be defective.
I did mean that, but it seems the video I saw shows not Jewish settlers but Jewish pilgrims.
https://mythdetector.com/en/ashkenazi-khazar-jews-migrating-to-ukraine-or-an-annual-tradition-of-pilgrims-another-anti-semitic-conspiracy-around-ukraine/
To my surprise, the majority of reports indicate that the Jewish population of Ukraine has been rapidly shrinking. See /Jews migrating Ukraine/ on yandex.com.
I frankly don’t know what sense to make of that, since Ukraine is 0.2% Jewish, but Jews are securely in control of the government, business, finance and the media.
True. Prima facie. Genetics is far more precise and quantitative. It is not linguistics but language study, using comparative structures of grammar, words, in the realm of anthropological research.
Why do you think that the Khazars’ conversion to Judaism is proven?
This theory is supported by Western and some Israeli researchers. But overall, there is no consensus on this issue.
Russian and Ukrainian researchers support the theory that the Khazars were mostly pagans. First of all, this is indicated by archaeological data. Judaism was professed by a small group of the highest Khazar nobility and an almost closed social group of Jewish merchants.
The leadership of the DPRK has spoken in the language that we understand and miss, calling it as it is. Glory to Top Un Kim Il and his special forces.
https://en.topwar.ru/263725-v-phenjane-budet-vozdvignut-pamjatnik-bojcam-korejskoj-narodnoj-armii-uchastvovavshim-v-osvobozhdenii-kurskoj-oblasti-kim-chen-yn.html
I think you are approaching this very superficially, just like in the case of the alleged preemptive German attack on the Soviet Union.
Of course, I was not referring to Zelensky as an individual, but to his co-religionist team. The fact that you think they have no reason to seek Ukraine based on the former life of the Khazars in it does not mean that they think so too. You see that in Gaza, even after 2000 years, they are still persecuting ‘Amalek’.
The comparison with the Prussians and Poles is totally meaningless because it is known that the Prussians are Germanized Serbs (in the 12th-14th centuries) who spoke Serbian until 200 years ago when it was forbidden by law. They are the same people as the Poles, so all the WW2 stories about Danzig as a German land (which was captured) etc. are also meaningless. The reason for this is that you do not know when the Germans crossed the Rhine and entered Germany and when they reached the Baltics.
Genetics is a more exact science than linguistics, but not in this case. The genetics of Jews (and Ashkenazi) prove almost nothing to us (otherwise this discussion would be unnecessary), but linguistics shows.
So, where did Yiddish originate, in the east or west, and how/why many German words were inherited from it. The fact that Ashkenazi are not Hazaras (except for less than 5%) does not mean that they are originally from Palestine.
Until the dilemmas I presented are resolved – Telemach’s (that Yiddish is older than the German language) and Penelope’s Paradox (how 8 million Jews emerged from 35-45K in 500 years), this dilemma will not be resolved.
We should be patient and wait for the author of the Odyssey’s hypothesis to personally explain his theory (which, unlike all the others, is at least logically correct) and to present it to the public. It is not ruled out that Ron will beat him to the punch with the correction of his Punic hypothesis, but I doubt it because he, just like you, does not want to face the true history of early/medieval Europe.
You mean “some historians,” like this Canadian Douglas Tottle you cite, whose book I haven’t read, but have used Microsoft’s Copilot to review his claims:
So, despite what you seem to claim, there is no unanimity at all among historians about the reality of the Holomodor, but I don’t think anyone denies that millions in the USSR died under the Bolshevik Yoke
The court ruling issued by the Kyiv Court of Appeal on 13 January found Stalin, Molotov, Kaganovich, Postyshev, Kosior and others guilty of the crime of genocide in relation to Holodomor, “but terminated the proceedings since the accused are all dead.”
https://khpg.org/en/1265217823
But look, the starving man on the streets of Kharkov or Kiev in the ’30s knew only that Pavel Postyshev, or somebody like him, had taken all his grain and all his land too, so despite what Tottle or anyone else thinks, those opinions don’t and can’t retroactively change the minds of those who suffered and died under Stalin’s ruthless and merciless collectivization, confiscation of grain and land, and outright murders and banishment of the so-called Kulaks, who were Ukrainian, Belorussian or Russian … it didn’t really matter if they had possessions the Reds could seize, and those poor saps died of starvation in their millions during the ’30s, no matter what you’d like to call it.
Those painful memories and that animosity or even hatred toward Stalin and the Bolsheviks remained long after the ’30s and the GPW were over, right down to the present day in Ukraine, if I’m not mistaken.
Who gives a rat’s arse about ‘consensus’.
Let’s take the Holohoax as one example. Perhaps 98% of books written, Hollywood movies, You Tube videos, social media commentary etc, say that 6 million yids died in those yet-to-be-proven-to-exist Gas chambers for killing humans (and the remainder shot on the eastern front).
Some will then extrapolate that this ‘near consensus’ implies that the official Holohoax narrative must be true.
But seeing as Malignant International Jewry have so much riding on the Holohoax myth being maintained (and not exposed for the obvious fraud that it is), ZOG have martialled their considerable resources (multiples of U.S GDP at their disposal), to flood the world with books/videos/nonsense taught through the western public school curriculum which they control, to brainwash the bulk of the ignorant masses into believing this easily disprovable fraud (exactly as they have done with the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax).
So Mr/Ms ZZ, try to be more mature and work harder at separating the wheat from the chaff.
It doesn’t take much of a deep dive to ascertain that those theories that deflect away from the Khazarian Reality* are all Jewish misdirection.
(*Note how I don’t used the terminology of Khazarian Hypothesis. Because it is not just a ‘hypothesis’. It is a reality).
Now, I’m not saying that there aren’t some Jews (typically from those that descended from the Egyptian/Lebanese/Iraqi/Iranian/Syrian Jewish communities – who have a proven CONTINUITY of existence in the Levant for a millennium or more, and thus may have a bloodline relationship to the Jews of antiquity), I’m not referring to that small subset of Jewry.
HOWEVER, the Ashke-nasties (the ones who rule the Apartheid Israeli state and represent the bulk of its present day Jewish inhabitants, the ones that represent the ZOG financiers and the death and despair they’ve brought to the world for so long), these phony Jews are most assuredly Khazars.
Watch the following 4 min video which summarises the work of the internationally acclaimed Dr. Eran Elhaik, geneticist researcher at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine:
Yes, Dr Elhaik is Jewish.
But he’s a righteous Jew, he’s an honest man with a moral compass.
And he’s not afraid to admit the truth. ie: that Ashke-nasties like himself are descended from the Khazars.
“Of course I’m relying on media reports rather than first-hand experience, and I can’t really tell from here if the many Western boycotts have had any significant effect on the lives of ordinary Russians.”
I don’t have first-hand experience either and cannot consider a two-week trip to Russia as a tourist sufficient but from all I have read I concluded that the boycotts only had a significant effect on the daily lives of the Westernized elite who were deprived of Brie, Camembert, champagne and Fendi, Gucci and other “brand” products. Ordinary people were well supplied in the supermarkets and stores.