Trump just imposed additional tariffs on China. He seems to be acting with impunity. Can China do something to Trump where it hurts?
I think the Chinese Communist Party certainly can. Let’s take off the gloves and have some fun. Here is my suggestion – CCP should go after Trump’s sugar daddies and mommy to let him know who the real boss is.
The US is a plutocracy, and presidents are bought and paid for by the oligarchs through their campaign contributions, super PACs, and other dark money funnels. They are the real boss.
Trump is no different. He is a kept man. In fact, he has the most and the biggest of all political sugar daddies (and mommy) in the history of the world. Some of them happen to be at the mercy of the CCP – Elon Musk, Jeff Yass, and Miriam Edelson.
It’s public knowledge that Elon Musk gave over $200 million to Trump’s campaign and owns the real estate conman and sassy reality show host. Most of Elon Musk’s wealth is in his ownership of Tesla, which happens to make over 50% of its cars in China and counts China as its second largest market. China can squeeze Musk a bit by shutting down Tesla China and liquidate a hundred billion from his net worth. A job at DOGE probably is not going to be worth that much. So I am pretty sure Musk will have a nice little chat with his personal property in the white house.
Jeff Yass, a much less known character, is in fact worth some $50 billion. A Jew, Jeff Yass owes most of his worth to his investment in ByteDance, the Chinese corporate parent of TikTok. Open Secrets reported Jeff Yass gave $96 million to Trump and other Republican causes in 2024 (now you understand why Trump made the U turn on TikTok), making Yass the largest donor until Musk and Miriam Edelson (more on her later) cut even bigger checks for the orange man.
CCP can refuse to sell TikTok or ask it to pull out of the US, vaporizing most of Yass’ fortune. Given the Jewish love for money, it is easy to imagine he will be coming to the white house with a machete for undelivered promise. Trump cannot make Mexico to pay for the wall but Yass will find a way for Trump to pay up.
Next, we come to the afore-mentioned widow of dead Jew Sheldon Edelson. She was known to have given Trump $150 million to help the genociders in Israel annex Gaza and West Bank in the wet dream of building the Eretz Israel (Muhammad bin Salman be aware, Saudi Abria is next as you are occupying a big chunk of the land promised to Israel by god the realtor. You may need a bone-saw to dismember Bibi in your next meet-and-greet for the safety of the sheiks). The now dead Jew Sheldon Edelson generously gave Trump $100 million in his first journey to the white house. That is payment for his trouble to recognize Jerusalem as jew capital. The bond is deep here.
Unfortunately for the Edelson family, their fortune is mostly under the mercy of the CCP again. Sands Vegas is a nothing burger next to Sands Macau which is where real money is made by the casino bros. When CCP decides to shut down Sands Macau for endangering national security, Miriam Edelson will have to move in with Trump in the white house to avoid becoming “unhoused”. I am not sure even Trump has the appetite for the old crow sleeping in the Lincoln room. Don’t even ask what Melania would think.
Since we are all such grown-ups, Mr. Trump, the ball is in your court and do you worst please.
HuaBin makes great points but for some reason with all this power the Chinese for there own reason will sit on there hands. For some reason Hua gives no why they do not do it ,a story that leaves us in wonder ,why! They could also shut off all exports for 30 days, no medicines all the way to no shoes on our feet. Explain the why in you opinion thats what we would like to understand!!!!
But China won’t do anything… in such bad taste. I suppose I believe more, for example, in Pepe Escobar, who knows more about China than a Chinese person. The Chinese civilization of peace and patience, of course.
With Love, from Taiwan
i have to say placing the western oligarchs under any kind of chinese control is like the fan fiction i never knew i wanted to write. i’m lightheaded and giddy at the thought.
everyone with a brain has heard about jack ma but this one is pretty epic:
Video Link
tl;dr: random stupid real estate vermin (redundant) got all “let’s nuke mars” about some theme park utopia nonsense and ended up failing to the the tune of (somehow) well over half a trillion dollars.
did they get a bailout? no. that’s for countries run by plutocrats*. third world banana republic bullshit. they collapsed and the head of the scam ended up in “detention” (meaning: The Big House, See!).
* fun fact:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Pluto
the term traces back to the god of the underworld due to “wealth” being associated with “underground” since that’s where every valuable resource comes from. the idea of “hell” is adjacent to that of “metaphysical underworld” if not synonymous. so “plutocracy” in a way translates to “we’re being controlled by beings from hell”.
sounds odd but is also backed up by basically every metaphysical system from buddhism to the “abrahamic” threesome.
China has always considered itself the dispensable and exceptional nation too. The difference seems to be that China is secure with itself, and does not need to convert the world to its beliefs, to hate every tradition other than its own, or to slaughter all who do not obey. China adopts the more paternalistic approach of letting the barbarians stumble around in their darkness until they grasp where their interests lie. Another factor might be that Chinese culture is not burdened with an ancient “holy” book that glorifies racial supremacy, intolerance, and genocide.
China has had its painful periods of foreign exploitation and of communism, and now it is moving forward into what seems to be humanity’s last best chance for survival. The question is whether our leaders will be the first tyrants in history to gracefully cede their power, or whether they will exercise a “Samson option” of their own and take the world down with them, the way a mean dog pees on its extra food so no one else can enjoy it.
I don’t think China will do anything so overt. The Chinese prefer Confucianism and the Sun Tzu Art Of War. That being, don’t interfere in the enemy’s self destruction. I believe they will be content in the knowledge that every day that goes by, the clock ticks in the direction of 3 important things: 1) The Chinese become more powerful and self reliant. 2) The US weakens and becomes more chaotic 3) A hot war, IMV, not winnable now, will increase in disparity going forward.
The USA needs to rid itself of its parasites, black box government, and its elite appetite for world domination.
Interesting to read a Chinese perspective. Musk actually gave closer to 300 million to Trump (290 was the number as I recall). Another thing Xi and the Chinese government could do is to expose more of the vast network of corruption involving the Wuhan Lab and the funding it received from USAID. I expect our author is aware of Run Unz’s theory of the origins and purpose of the bioweapon and its deployment against China and Iran. Chairman Xi, who has made many statements and taken serious actions against corruption of party officials and others in China, would be doing the entire planet a favor by blowing the lid on this entire mess.
Why are all these Clown-World entities allowed to set up shop in China anyway? In light of the Century of Humiliation and who the chief actors behind it actually were, why is Jeff Yass even permitted to invest in Byte Dance? The Learned Elders of Wye had a nice plan set up about 20 years back to move to China once they were done bleeding their host to death here in the west. Xi seems to have at least delayed this process. He would do well to learn about how they have destroyed the west and keep in mind that they have no good intentions for China either.
You’re not going to do shit except bully farmers and small countries. From the Ag Econ Department at Iowa State back in 2018:
https://www.card.iastate.edu/products/policy-briefs/display/?n=1272
Trump’s tariffs are targeting value added products while China predictably retaliates by going after commodities. Good luck getting a comparable price for solar panels in Nigeria. lol. If China retaliates by targeting US soybean farmers, so what. Brics countries will pay nearly the same price a bushel. The minimal drop in revenue to US farmers can easily be rectified by higher govt price supports.
I agree with you, my point is Hua should say that. People at Unz like to try and get the whole story. Hua is a view point we don’t normally have. My belief is they won’t make a move until we are so weak we can never recover. I believe they will just cut off trade. But im not Chinese so I would like his opinion why they do nothing as we arm taiwan and disrupt there trade in every way possible.
Cool it with the anti-semitisms.
Sell off a few hundred billion $ of their U.S. Treasury bonds
They have been reducing their holdings for over a decade, but easy does it; crashing
the dollar would devalue their remaining holdings; besides a realistically valued
dollar would make the US more competitive.
Last I heard they are giving out Chinese bonds denominated in dollars, at
lower yields than the Fed; I do not quite get what they are aiming at but
it sounds dangerous.
In real time – the first time – I read the comment referring to the article I heard it in Christian Bale’s voice from American Psycho.
China issuing Chinese bonds denominated in USD could be done for the following reasons:
1) Increase cross-border financing for local companies and to offset volatility for CNY-USD exchange. (The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) and the State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE) announced jointly early this year an increase in the macroprudential adjustment parameter for the cross-border financing of enterprises and financial institutions.)
Demand has been strong from local companies because these bonds also offer them tax advantages.
2) Secondary lender to others. An example being the issue of the China-USD bonds in Saudi Arabia. This is being done in the context of financial and economic collaboration, with China helping Saudi Arabia in the development of its financial hub. The Saudi Central Bank (SAMA) signed a three‑year local currency swap agreement with the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) in 2023. This establishes a USD-SAR-CNY link and will eventually shift more to SAR-CNY. Especially useful in keeping their trade safe from US sanctions.
China issued-USD bonds seem highly strange on the surface, but understanding their pragmatism in the face of the preponderance of USD in international trade, this gives them the opportunity to eventually replace the USD as provider and usage.
Is this author the Chinese Andrew Anglin?
Thanks … medium-term it has the potential to drive up US yields, no?
all well said. i’ve always liked the observation that while the west tried to expand and metastasize china was building a wall to keep people out.
the west is currently awash with millions of people finding thousands of ways to narcotize themselves. quite a few of those ways come from the nearby CIA opium fields of afghanistan. it’s the mongols melded with the opium wars and i hope they prove me right and resist with the inner strength that centuries of abuse instills.
Why bother? Get on with building the greatest economy, ever, and let the USA and its Jewinter Masters cut their own throats. But arm, defensively, to the teeth.
Stop eating the dogs you disgusting bug people!
I don’t think so.
Trump has the bully pulpit now and is going to keep it.
His supporting oligarchs can’t overcome that and are no longer necessary for him to exercise power.
Before having run into horrible pictures/clips from the dog meat festival in Yulin (June 2023 on Twitter), I had no negative thoughts about the Chinese people/culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Meat_Festival
Possibly if the US Treasury wants to draw more funds away from the China-USD bonds. However, this is a big IF, and IF other countries want to buy them given the insane trade policies coming from Washington.
As it stands, yields are decreasing across the board (except for 6M and 7 yr)
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-bond-yield
In 1992, China and Israel established the Joint Economic and Trade Commission. Kamodan Far East was the first Israeli trading company to enter China and has extensive cooperation with my country in the fields of agricultural machinery, irrigation, electronic equipment, etc.
In June 2005, China announced that Israel would be listed as a destination for Chinese citizens traveling abroad. Oren Rozenblat, then Deputy Consul General of Israel in Shanghai, said that
In 2009, China was Israel’s eleventh largest overseas market. In 2011, Fosun and American life insurance giant Prudential jointly established the US$600 million Fosun Prudential China Opportunity Fund (hereinafter referred to as the “Fosun Prudential Fund”).
In 2012, China became Israel’s second largest trade market after the United States. In early 2014, Fosun Group invested $100 million to establish Fosun Kinzon Capital; Fosun Pharma also has a venture capital fund, Hermed Fund; Fosun Eurasia Capital was established in 2015. Fosun is good at teaming up with local partners to make global investments.
Israeli life science technology and medical device technology are of particular interest to Fosun. In May 2013, Fosun Pharma and Fosun Insurance Fund jointly invested $220 million to acquire 95.16% of the shares of Israeli medical device company Alma Lasers.
In 2014, China and Israel established the Joint Committee for Innovation Cooperation. At the end of the year, Fosun Pharma Chairman Chen Qiyu revealed to the Israeli financial media Globe that Fosun Pharma’s venture capital fund, Hermed Fund, was looking for local funds in Israel to act as its Israeli representative and partner. The fund’s investment targets are early-stage pharmaceutical companies and projects that are slightly outside Fosun Pharma’s core business, with the aim of achieving integration in the future. In June 2015, Fosun acquired Phoenix Holdings, an Israeli insurance and financial services company. In the same year, Alibaba invested $7 million in CorePhotonics, an Israeli smartphone dual camera manufacturer.
In March 2016, the two countries signed the Agreement on the Mutual Issuance of Multiple Visas by the Governments of China and Israel for Business, Tourism and Family Visits to Each Other, which officially took effect on 11 November 2016.
At the China-Israel Science and Technology Innovation Investment Conference, Guo Guangchang, chairman of the Fosun Group, said that he had good relations with the Jews and revealed that he would set up an office in Israel in the future. During the meeting, he also held separate talks with officials from the Israeli Ministry of Economy on investment issues.
According to Guo Guangchang, the Chinese and Israeli economies are very complementary. Israeli companies have a global mindset from day one because of their small local market. China, as the second largest economy, needs to integrate global resources to enhance its competitiveness, otherwise it will be difficult to break out of the trap of the middle level of development.
It is worth noting that Fosun Kinzon Capital has been focusing on early and growth stage innovative companies in China and the United States, with offices in Silicon Valley and China, but recently Kinzon Capital has also been actively investing in Israel, mainly in mobile Internet, medical and other fields.
Kinzon Capital has hired an Israeli, Daniel Cohen, to represent it in Israel. He is also the international investment director of Fosun Group, focusing on healthcare and looking for acquisition and investment opportunities for Fosun Pharma outside of Asia.
The two governments are closely linked in the areas of entrepreneurship and investment. ‘Israel fever’ has become a new phenomenon in Chinese investment circles, particularly in the fields of life sciences, clean energy, healthcare, finance, software and other technology sectors.
In 2017, China and Israel established an innovative and comprehensive partnership. There is complementarity between China’s economic development and Israel’s innovative technology. The Commercial Department of the Israeli Embassy in China is committed to promoting bilateral economic and trade exchanges and cooperation between China and Israel.
In 2018, China became the second largest source of investment in Israel, after the United States. Ariel Briskin, general manager of the Israel Chamber of Commerce in China, said, “We look forward to attracting more investment from China.” Briskin also said, “Currently, we are most interested in five areas: medical care, environmental protection, driverless driving, construction technology and agriculture, and we hope to focus on strengthening cooperation with China in these areas.”
https://sino-israel.org/articles/china-israel-cooperation-in-central-asia/
In 2019, Alibaba acquired InfinityAugmentedReality, an AR/smart glasses research and development company. Following the acquisition, InfinityAR joined Alibaba’s machine vision lab in Israel.
Alibaba also invested in Visualead, a technology company that generates video and images into QR codes, Twiggle, an e-commerce search engine developer, and Hotelmize, a developer of AI hotel price prediction and revenue optimisation technology. In the nearly two years since, Alibaba has made no public moves in Israel.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-opens-chinese-operated-port-haifa-boost-regional-trade-links-2021-09-02/
In June 2022, it was reported that Alibaba was planning to close its Israeli R&D centre, which at the time had about 40 employees, most of them experts in artificial intelligence (AI). The Israeli R&D centre is part of Alibaba’s R&D arm, Dharma Academy, and was also established through the acquisition of local technology companies.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/mrcbg/programs/growthpolicy/engaging-israel-belt-and-road-initiative-chinas-techno
Hagai Tal, president of Israeli mobile advertising company Taptica, said Israel has a great reputation as a research and development centre and the Chinese hope to use Israeli technology to boost economic growth. “China needs to learn as much as possible to establish itself as an innovative economy. At the same time, Israeli companies see important opportunities in the East. These two needs come together to create such a successful business partnership. Despite the impact of the New Crown epidemic, the volume of trade between the two countries has increased rather than decreased, “bucking the trend”, which has directly facilitated the bilateral FTA negotiations. Ms. Hila, Director of the Israel-China Economic and Trade Affairs Division of the Economic Department of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, expressed her willingness to promote, strengthen and expand economic and trade cooperation between China and Israel, and to encourage foreign investment in order to create more business development opportunities for the Israeli and Chinese governments, enterprises and organisations. China is Israel’s second largest trading partner after the United States. According to Chinese data, China’s exports to Israel will more than double from $7.6 billion in 2013 to $16.5 billion in 2022. From January to September 2023, bilateral trade between China and Israel reached $18.2 billion.
https://www.zenger.news/2023/05/03/china-and-israel-hold-free-trade-agreements-for-the-first-time-since-2019/
From 20 to 23 March 2023, the eighth round of China-Israel FTA negotiations was held in Israel. Yu Benlin, Director of the International Department of the Ministry of Commerce, led a delegation to the meeting.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-19-7423-6_38
From an industry perspective, the number of investment events by Chinese capital in Israel’s healthcare and advanced manufacturing industries far exceeds that of other industries. Be it medical devices, biopharmaceuticals or integrated circuits, AR/VR, agricultural technology, automotive and other fields.
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/why-china-taking-sides-against-israel-and-why-it-will-likely-backfire
Over the past 15 years, Chinese companies have invested more than $14 billion in Israel. According to German TV One, China’s investment in Israel has increased significantly, especially from 2013 to 2018. Chinese companies are involved in many infrastructure projects and start-ups in Israel. The large-scale investments are part of the “New Silk Road”.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-820640
In 2023, the Tel Aviv Light Rail Red Line, built by China Railway Tunnel Engineering Group, China Railway Electrification Engineering Group and China Railway Sixth Engineering Group Co., Ltd, will be officially opened to traffic. This project is the first light rail project in the high-end market of developed countries undertaken by Chinese enterprises under the background of the Belt and Road Initiative. The entire line will be designed, manufactured, supplied, constructed, coordinated and maintained by Chinese companies throughout the industrial chain.
https://truthout.org/articles/chinas-ties-with-israel-are-hindering-the-palestinian-struggle-for-freedom/
Among the many infrastructure projects in Israel involving Chinese companies, the most famous is the Port of Haifa. Shanghai International Port Group has been operating container terminals at Israel’s largest and most important port for several years.
https://english.news.cn/20250115/6189b33a1145400a9ec23712b7e4c164/c.html
Chinese carmaker SAIC Motor launched sales of three new electric models in Israel on Tuesday, as announced by Israel’s dealership Auto Chen at a launch event in the coastal city of Herzliya.
https://english.news.cn/20250123/344f923d3af248bd91fcb074a67eb2b1/c.html
Indeed, the Chinese state has prohibited basic demonstrations of solidarity with Palestine, confiscating Palestinian flags displayed publicly and preventing mobilizations in support of Gaza.
https://www.weareresonate.com/2025/02/bryan-cranston-led-your-honor-becomes-first-israeli-drama-to-get-china-remake/
Again, another stupid article by Hua Bin, who doesn’t think things through to their logical conclusions.
Adelson (not Edelson), Yass and Musk: “Trump, we own you.”
Trump: “Really? How so?”
Adelson, Yass and Musk: “You wouldn’t be President if it weren’t for our support.”
Trump: “You’re probably right. Let’s discuss this privately in a SCIF.”
(The discussion is moved into the SCIF).
Adelson, Yass and Musk: “We bought you. So now you have to do what we tell you to do.”
Trump: “Really? Or what? Maybe you haven’t figured it out yet, but I don’t need your contributions to my campaign anymore. I won’t be running for election again.”
Adelson, Yass and Musk: “We’re worth a lot more than you. We’ll use our money to ruin you!”
Trump: “If that’s what you plan to do, I’ll ruin you first. Miriam, your wealth mostly comes from gambling. Vegas casinos are subject to anti-money-laundering regulations under the Bank Secrecy Act. Since it’s impossible to fully comply with the requirements of the Act, I can shut you down. Elon, you depend on federal contracts and subsidies. Those contracts and subsidies can expire and not be renewed. Jeffie boy, I’ll have you and your companies investigated by the SEC, FTC, DOJ, Commerce Department, IRS, etc. I’m sure they’ll come up with something. The US has so many regulations that the average citizen violates the law three times a day. In fact, I’ll have all of you comprehensively investigated — both your companies and you, personally. And your family members and friends as well.
“And by the way, don’t flatter yourselves that you gave my campaign all that much. Musk, you spent at the most $250 million, which is only 0.06% of your $398 billion net worth. Miriam, you and Sheldon did better with your $200 million in contributions, but they only amount to 0.625% of your $32 billion net worth –and you can’t complain that you’ve gotten nothing for this: US embassy moved to Jerusalem, Israel controlling the Golan Heights, and me backing Bibi to the hilt (so far). I can easily stiff both you and Bibi by having the US vote against Israel in the UN Security Council and by reversing the US’s position on the ICC and ICJ. I can also go after all the crooked Jews in the US, of which there are too many to count – and I know who they are. Jeffie Boy, the $96 million you gave my campaign is just 0.19% of your net worth of $50 billion.
“Now get out and think hard about how you can make me forget about the threats you’ve made and persuade me not to throw all of you to the wolves.”
” … The Chinethe thivilithathion of peath and pathienth … China hath alwayth conthidered itthelf the dithpenthable and exthepthional nation too. The differenth theemth to be that China ith thecure with itththelf and doeth not need to convert the world to itth beliefths, to hate every tradithion other than itth own, or to thlaughter all who do not obey … Now letth minth down to the gay bar and have thum cocktailth. Are you coming, girlfriend? Oh, Mith Thing, jutht look at you!”
1) The Chinese on both sides of the Straits are all about business.
2) China is Taiwan’s largest trade partner.
3) We can arm Taiwan all we want but there is little incentive on Taiwan to be Washington’s proxy in a conflict to undermine China:
A. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists visit Taiwan each year. If Taiwan was truly fearful of an imminent conflict, they would ban these tourists for fear of spies and saboteurs.
B. Many of Taiwan’s military only train with airsoft guns instead of live ammo because they don’t consider a Chinese invasion a possibility.
C. Kinmen Island which is only 6 miles off the Chinese coast is administered by Taiwan but depends on China for infrastructure maintenance and freshwater.
From your link.
Honestly, I was waiting now for a long time to read this kind of sober, and measured opinion about an answer to a problem, or a narrative or any sort of analysis to the current and dangerous events that is still pouring on us to the point that we are very much overwhelmed and mainly lost and most of us don’t care anymore on what will happen to the future of humanity anymore.
Maybe this is the real goal of the chaotic situation that we live in. Many wars, atrocities looks like modern day cannibalism, too much debt, numerous hot spots in the world. Is this our new reality ? Is this the post modernity era that we should exited for ?
Your ideas are spot on, always fellow the money. Dry the wells that feed the monsters.