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In my opinion, Vice President Mike Pence defeated Senator Kamala Harris in Wednesday’s vice-presidential debate. Undecided voters in Frank Luntz’s polling group agreed. Usually, vice-presidential debates don’t matter. However, considering Joe Biden’s declining mental ability, it may be different this year. We may have been watching the Democratic Party’s real presidential candidate. The media’s takeaway: It’s unfair to expect her to live up to the same standards as white men.
The debate had two attention-getting moments. One was when a fly landed on Mike Pence’s head. It was probably the occurrence most often discussed on social media. David Frum used it in a column calling the Vice President “the man who pretended not to notice.”
The other was when Kamala Harris replied to an interruption from Mike Pence by saying firmly, “Mr. Vice President, I’m speaking.”
There’s nothing remarkable about this. If Mike Pence had been debating a white man, no one would have mentioned it. President Trump and former vice president Joe Biden repeatedly interrupted each other during their debate. Joe Biden even told the President of the United States to “shut up,” and few journalists bemoaned his lack of civility. Mike Pence was respectful during the debate, and Senator Harris and Vice President Pence spoke for almost the exact same amount of time.
Nonetheless, journalists and activists praised Kamala Harris as if she had overcome some great barrier. It is reminiscent of when Elizabeth Warren (another Democrat with questionable ethnic credentials) kept talking in violation of Senate rules and turned herself into a progressive heroine. Just like Elizabeth Warren’s incivility became a T-shirt slogan, so too has Kamala Harris’s. You can also buy the coffee cup.
The assumption is that Kamala Harris suffers because of her race or sex, but if she were white, let alone a white man, we might never have heard of her. The media treated her like a martyr.
“A telling dynamic of the debate was the way Harris repeatedly confronted Pence for interrupting her,” said The Atlantic . “She drew a chorus of amens from women on Twitter, since most of them could relate to being put in the awkward position of having to maintain their poise as someone tried to undermine them.”
“Pence appeared obnoxious, condescending and not altogether present in the moment as he ran roughshod over the two women on the stage and kept addressing issues the moderator had moved on from,” said the Hollywood Reporter. “If Trump did his best to get his picture under the definition of ‘alpha male’ in the dictionary last week, Pence’s portrait might be found under the ‘mansplainer.’”
CNN’s Van Jones said Kamala Harris had to “walk that tightrope that all women of color have to walk,” and called Mike Pence a “mansplainer-in-chief.” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos made a similar remark.
“America hates to let Black women speak,” said the Washington Post. The overwhelmingly positive coverage Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama enjoy would suggest otherwise. Nonetheless, Twitter was full of similar comments:
I don’t think VP Pence’s mansplaining and over-talking is doing a lot to narrow the gender gap, unless it is also turning off more men as well.
— Dan Rather (@DanRather) October 8, 2020
“But I would like equal time.
I’m still speaking.”
~Women & Girls #VPDebate
— Be A King (@BerniceKing) October 8, 2020
Just going over it all in my head. The way Mike Pence constantly interrupted and spoke over @KamalaHarris was the prime example of white male supremacy and its common dismissal and disrespect for black woman.
— Mark Ruffalo (@MarkRuffalo) October 8, 2020
However, some viewers found Kamala Harris “snarky,” “rehearsed,” and “abrasive.” Joe Biden supporters may have enjoyed Kamala Harris making condescending faces for the camera, but many ordinary Americans probably found it off-putting. The combination of arrogance and supposed victimization defines politicians like Kamala Harris, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Ilhan Omar. They flaunt their power but complain about racism or sexism when they don’t get their way.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pic.twitter.com/d4kyMwVci4
— amorphous (@loneamorphous) October 8, 2020
One key point of the debate was Kamala Harris’s refusal to answer whether a Biden Administration would “pack the court” by adding new justices to the Supreme Court. Yesterday, former vice president Joe Biden refused to answer this question, saying we will know his answer “when the election is over.” The answer is surely yes.
Senator Harris clearly thought her sex and race were very important. “I was elected the first woman of color, and black woman to be elected attorney general of the state of California,” she said, “where I ran the second largest department of justice in the United States.” She said that Joe Biden “recognizes the beauty in our diversity.” This was odd considering that the senator’s last T-shirt slogan (“That little girl was me”) was about her claim that Joe Biden opposed school busing. She also invoked Charlottesville and falsely claimed that President Donald Trump “refused to condemn white supremacists.”
Mike Pence said she had “conveniently omitted” that while President Trump said there were “fine people” on both sides at Unite The Right 2017, “he condemned the KKK, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists and has done so repeatedly.” He defended the Trump Administration’s record on criminal justice reform. He also turned Kamala Harris’s record against her. The vice president claimed Kamala Harris had “increased the disproportionate incarceration of blacks in California” when she was attorney general of California. The vice president’s counterattack left Kamala Harris visibly shaken, much as Tulsi Gabbard’s did during the primary.
The senator again evoked Charlottesville in conclusion, saying that it was “one of the reasons Joe decided to run for president.” Not long after the debate, Black Lives Matter supporters were smashing windows in a Milwaukee suburb. Even if one falsely blamed Unite the Right demonstrators for all the violence in Charlottesville, it has been dwarfed by what has engulfed our country almost every night. The Unite the Right demonstration has become mythically important, while reporters downplay, ignore, or justify leftist terrorism, violence, and attempts to seize local authority. Kamala Harris said she was a part “of those peaceful protests” to achieve “that ideal of equal justice under law.” This is the attractive way to explain the movement to whites.
Senator Harris also said that “seven members of President George W. Bush’s cabinet are supporting our ticket” along with Cindy McCain and John Kasich. Progressives, let alone socialists, could not be happy about that answer. Senator Harris appeared to be appealing to moderates, while relying on her sex and race to ensure she’s not abandoned by the Left.
Mike Pence said American police did not have an “implicit bias against minorities” and denied that America is “systemically racist.” However, he also said there was “no excuse for what happened to George Floyd.” Whites came up only in a negative context. No one mentioned immigration.
Where does this leave us? President Kamala Harris had a worrying thought. She repeatedly mentioned “Russia” during the debate, making the unproven claim that the Russian government put “bounties on the heads of American soldiers.” I suspect Kamala Harris’s vision of American “unity” would involve calling white advocates the domestic enemy and Russia the foreign enemy, thus justifying extreme methods against both.
However, Kamala Harris didn’t seem formidable Wednesday night. She didn’t look or sound well-informed, intelligent, or thoughtful. Instead, she showed her true self — a middling politician who has power because of race and sex. Vice President Pence, in contrast, was poised and well-prepared. In conventional terms, this contest wasn’t even close. Kamala Harris “won” the debate only if you’re grading on an affirmative action curve.
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Good summation. Matches what I see. And this:
“Worrying” — it’s nice there’s still a gentlemanly way of putting things. This woman is foam at the mouth nutters.
When Stanley Kubrick played the fantasy of “Evil Russkies” in Dr Strangelove at least it had some real world plausibility. But that was six decades back. To hear it evoked as a threat in the 21st century is as grotesque as thinking she’s going to be snagged by Papal Witch-finders. The woman is living in a television fantasy world.
Good thing democracy in America is, as some wag put it, “show biz for ugly people.” The election will be held, forgotten, and the bankers through their agencies will continue to run the country without caring who the people voted for.
She’s an ugly, unlikable bitch who manages to exemplify Karens despite being a mix of black and Indian, admits to lying (at least about Biden) amidst her myriad other self-serving lies and gets away with it, was the worst kind of cop who put away at least (there’s probably more) one innocent man to advance her own career, sucked off an old man to get where she is, condescends when she speaks, glories in false triumphs and shows no warmth or generosity when she speaks.
Her being a woman is kind of like a quadriplegic missing a finger.
I didn’t watch the debate but it sounds as if Kamela Harris displayed the Brahmin arrogance that tanked her presidential campaign before Iowa and resulted in poll numbers of about 2% among Democrats. But there’s a good chance that the senator from Silicon Valley could be in the Oval Office very soon.
Negroes have a bottomless capacity for narcissism and self-absorption that a spoiled white millennial teenage girl would envy. Their constant boasting reminds me of a beaming toddler wanting to show off the contents of their potty chair to everybody to compliment.
Did anyone see, earlier this year, when Harris returned to DC ? She went to school there, at Howard, a negro school, and is a member of negro sorority Alpha Kappa Alpha. They have a “call”, which members give in what is described at a “high pitched” wail: It’s “SKEE-WEE!”. They actually have it trademarked.
Anyway, Harris gave a speech in DC during her visit. The audience was mixed, but full of other AKAs, who, loudly and repeatedly gave their girl the “SKEE WEE! call. A white female reporter Tweeted of the loud “screeches” that greeting Harris, and was promptly roasted by “black Twitter” for not recognizing the AKA sorority “call”. She had to apologize. There were many negroes who didn’t know of the “call” themselves, but that didn’t stop them from piling on the MSM Becky.
LOL–can you imagine a room full of negresses of all ages loudly screeching that gibberish? I mean, white Greek societies no doubt have their own stupid and silly traditions–but they don’t usually inflict them on others, or act like they are wonderful for doing that stuff, nor do they think outsiders “ignorant” for not knowing what their incoherent sounds mean.
Other negro sororities, BTW, have their own “calls”. Sigma Gamma Rho does “EE-YIP!” and the top one, Delta Sigma Theta proudly yells “OO-OOP!”
You can’t make this stuff up.
So, I’m a “woman of color”. In fact, my parents are from India, just like Kamala’s mom.
And… Pence treated Harris just like he would treat anyone else running against him. He showed her the respect of taking her seriously. He didn’t use kid gloves. So, all I can say re. Harris is – lady, you’re running for the VP of the United States of America. Don’t complain if you can’t take the heat.
If Tulsi Gabbard had been the candidate instead of Kamala, I doubt there would be any complaints from her because she is tough. She could handle the heat. Of course, the MSM and liberals hate Tulsi though because she actually is honorable and doesn’t pander.
And of course the left has to make it all about gender and color. While racism and sexism do still exist, it’s 2020, not 1920. The country has come a long way and it’s time to let that stuff go.
It’s really pitiful the way democrat voters will rally behind two candidates who wouldn’t have survived in an actual primary. Harris was out of the running early on, and Biden was on his way out when the DNC decided that they could just do without a primary or a convention and simply announce two of their worst primary performers as the Presidential and VP candidates.
Democrat voters have never been any great group of geniuses, but this time they look like the repubtards who rallied behind Dole, McCain, and Romney. The two parties really are indistinguishable, at least in intelligence.
I disagree. The general intelligence of the Republicans is about 81 and the Democrats about 68.
Epic takedown!
She’s an evil bitch….just a God awful human being. There is not an authentic bone in that bitch’s entire body.
A glutton for punishment, I watched a number of Congressional hearings where Cunt Kamala got to grill some hapless white official, and every time she was literally frothing at the mouth with HATE.
I thought she was going to make poor old Jeff Sessions shit his pants. Jeff is such a nice old guy and he was totally unprepared for the machine gun mouth of a nasty black bitch……it was painful.
And I’m sure all of you saw what she did to Kavanaugh.
Pence did a good job despite being handicapped by a shitlib mod.
“I’m speaking Mr. Vice President.”
“Yes, I know. Fuck you.”
Kamala the Kommissar will be the death of this Nation.
God Help Us.
Easily, really; just visit the monkey cage in the zoo.
Are you sure they weren’t screeching SOO-EEE! ?
That’s actually quite clever.
Racism and sexism exist, but it is now reversed against white men.
There is so much to say about this debate:
* the way Kamala Harris gloated over being chosen as VP (which in normal life we would all be a little bit ashamed of if we acted that way about something we got that other people didn’t get)
* the way Kamala Harris plainly just lies to manipulate her imaginary audience she’s speaking to in her head and thinks she’s tricking (and it’s all just in her head like she is talking to herself in the mirror all the time)
* the way the Leftist media reaction to the debate was plainly staged, by which I mean they obviously had all already agreed that Kamala would be super abrasive and practically beg for retaliation for her insulting provocations of Pence as she repeated flagrant, known lies and then that would be a springboard for accusing Pence of treating her badly and then… the media put all the ordinary, tired feminist issues back on the table (after black lives matter made every other issue pointless to discuss for the last 6 months).
* the way Feminists in general like to mimic only the absolute worst examples of male behavior as if that’s what makes them powerful but never mimic the very common male virtues of humility, trustworthiness, hard word, self-sacrifice etc.
I could go on. But the thing that really blew me away about this debate was when Kamala Harris proudly said they had built a coalition that included Bush adminstration officials. From the point of view of a leftist and the values they insist we all have to emulate… the invasion of Iraq, the passage of the Patriot Act, the torture of prisoners in Abu Ghraib and CIA black sites worldwide, and Dick Cheney shooting a guy in the face… all of that history being overlooked just because you lust for power seems like a pretty wide gap for Fascism to drive a Mack Truck through vs anything Donald Trump ever did. So it just begs the obvious question that most of us on the right have (and have answered):
Why exactly do Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, Beto O’Rourke, the entire Media establishment, et al hate Trump so much and so vocally if things like CIA black site torture prisons aren’t really something that bother you all that much and certainly wouldn’t make you refuse an endorsement from someone who helped build them in a past administration?
It’s really the same question about Ralph Northam and Joe Biden’s racist pasts… why exactly do you hate Trump so much if you are willing to overlook what Ralph and Joe did for decades?
Well… it starts to be pretty obvious that Kamala doesn’t really care about right and wrong at all beyond whether she can use the fact that the general public considers something to be wrong against an opponent. It’s like overlooking rape whenever the rapist is one of your friends but then making a huge deal about it on TV for political points.
Such a way of treating virtue as an empty vessel with no content except in specific political moments used to be called “lacking principles” and was considered a character flaw. Now it’s considered to be a wily symbol of your willingness to do anything for power. Being willing to do anything for power should immediately disqualify someone from consideration. Which is why The Game of Thrones series ended the way it did. You don’t want to be that girl who would do anything for power and we do not want to be led by a girl who will do anything for power.
Handicapped? I hear she has bad knees & neck problems from a former job. Hopefully the workman’s comp medical payments are still in force.
I can’t believe the American people would vote for a woman who got into politics by starting out as the mistress of the married mayor of San Francisco. It’s crazy out there.
Even Black men hate to let Black women speak, said the Black men.
And we Whites have heard about enough too.
We’ve all had decades of stronk black wahmens’ head-bobbing, finger wagging and other abusive, obnoxious pushiness from America’s DMV Yazz Qwainz.
“Imagine a world run by Black women” = imagine the DMV lady stepping on your face forever.
Yes, that sounds about right. Neither gang is particularly bright, though democrats are much more delusional.
The MSM and their anointed candidates self-destructing around Tulsi Gabbard was reminiscent of Captain Kirk causing robots to short-circuit
“the way Kamala Harris gloated …”
Was that any surprise after she had referred to herself as a “first-tier candidate” being unsurprisingly attacked by the wannabe rabble (Tulsi Gabbard) during a debate, and then proceeded to garner support in the primaries that barely even registered? She’s got the same little political problem Hillary did — the word “BITCH” written in bold face across her forehead.
Oh come now, there’s plenty to say about Dick Chaney’s horrible record, but accidentally discharging a gun at one of his friends is hardly worth mentioning. In fact, doing so comes rather close to the sort of dishonesty that you’re accusing Harris of.
Kamala is a brown bitch who could barely conceal her contempt for white male Mike Pence. Her debate strategy was a combination of goo goo eyes, smirking, and head shaking at anything Pence said in an effort to mock and belittle him, but it didn’t seem to work as well as she hoped.
Kamaloo is not a very good debater and like most leftists rely mostly on spin, half truths and outright lies to try to best their opponents.