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From the Chicago Tribune:
Ken Griffin sells 66th-floor Park Tower condo for $11.2M
By Bob Goldsborough
Chicago TribuneJan 14, 2023 at 6:38 pm
Billionaire Ken Griffin on Friday sold an 8,000-square-foot condominium on the 66th floor of the Park Tower building on the Near North Side for $11.2 million …
Park Tower is an 800 foot-tall building that went up in 2000 at 800 N. Michigan Avenue next to the Water Tower. This would have struck me in the 1980s-1990s when I lived in Chicago, as close to being the single most rock-solid location in Chicago, other than perhaps the east side of Michigan Ave., especially with the demolition of the Cabrini-Green housing project to the northwest.
But, times change. The Water Tower Mall across Michigan Avenue got pillage twice during the Summer of George.
Griffin, who recently relocated his hedge fund firm, Citadel, and his own family to south Florida after complaining about crime in Chicago, took a meaningful loss on the unit, which he bought for $15 million in 2012. That means that his sale price on Friday was more than 25% less than he paid for the unit more than a decade earlier.
…In October, Griffin sold his five-bedroom, 7,400-square-foot full-floor condo on the 37th floor of the Waldorf Astoria
A few blocks north of Park Tower in a very upscale neighborhood.
— which had been Griffin’s most recent legal residence — to an opaque Delaware limited liability company for $10.22 million, which was $1.27 million below his asking price and $3.07 million, or 23%, less than the $13.3 million that Griffin had paid for that condo in 2014.
So, Griffin, who is presumably pretty smart about buy low-sell high stuff, has lost about 25% on two non-speculative blue-chip luxury high-rise condo purchases he made about a decade ago when real estate nationally was somewhat cheaper in the wake of 2008.
For those of us who love Chicago and feel that the middle of the USA deserves a great city, this is not encouraging.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You can only drive down quality of life, and charge more for it, and not have people leave.
From what I’ve read, south Florida seems an even madder, nastier place than Chicago.
George Soros supports progressive DAs to bring down cities because he plans to keep urban black neighborhoods intact from white strivers moving in. It keeps the black vote together for the election and primaries. Joe Biden could not have won the Dem primaries in 2020 without blacks voting together as a bloc. There was growing grassroots support by Hispanics for Bernie Sanders in 2020 and whites and Hipsanics would have a different presidential candidate that year if not for the urban core black vote. Half of the largest 100 metro areas have a progressive DA funded by George Soros donations for a strategic reason. It’s another sad example of how powerful Jews distort American democracy.
How could anyone “love” Chicago”? The city is a s**thole. Chicagoans are rude, crazy people (if you doubt me, just try driving I-90). I like the mid-west just fine. Just not Illinois.
FIBs
F***ing
Illinois
B@$+@rds
Though now I have adult kids in Illinois; including one in Chicago.
So I say it really means Fine Illinois BrethrenReplies: @JimDandy, @AP
* Half of it, at least. Whoever said Chicago was half Toronto and half Detroit was onto something, though Chicago architecture leaves Toronto in the dust.
How could anyone “love” Chicago”? The city is a miserable wind-swept s**thole. Chicagoans are rude, crazy people (if you doubt me, just try driving I-90). I like the mid-west just fine. Just not Illinois.
Sale & Leaseback?
1. What are the edges of your “middle of the USA”?
2. Can you provide your standards for a “great city,” other than claiming resident billionaires?
3. How often would you expect even to have seen — forget about knowing — Mr. Griffin out and about either “very upscale neighborhood”?
San Antonio is also nice.
Denver (certainly in the middle of the country if Chicago is) is great, or at least the metro area, largely due to the nearby mountains. But driving up/down the hills and mountains isn't fun especially in the winter.Replies: @Greta Handel
You’re a Chicago lover? If you don’t mind, what books can you recommend? Never been there, but I know that Chicago once was a major cultural force in this country.
Like NYC, Chicago has delivered all the evil it could muster in areas that many see as contradictory: dehumanizing laissez faire by the RICH; radical academia and resulting radical politics and journalism; corrupt labor movements; Jewish bribery everywhere; old WASP money allied with Jew money to romanticize Negroes, etc.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
https://www.amazon.com/American-Pharaoh-Richard-Battle-Chicago/dp/0316834890
He's a Sociologist. And makes an interesting case for the city. Someday I'm going to figure out how he adjusts race out of his data. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WxRrqaxmMFictionalized version of Cabrini Green removal. Yes the city is doomed, but through unfunded public pensions, not race per se.The Mexicans + Whites outnumber Blacks. High degree of race realism. Boy's Town is very realistic.High Mexican population may facilitate a Brazilification future.
Ben Hecht’s memoir “A Child of the Century” is a great read. I dunno how much is true, but the man could tell a story. His experiences as a Chicago newspaper reporter in 1910-1920 are the basis for “The Front Page” / “His Girl Friday.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njT_WSBhokY
Crime!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T05soR6iKQQ
Political Turmoil! (Medium Cool)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5BXLIdOec
Shoot You in Bed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb-N7aNQWMo
All that over FIFTY years ago!!!
All those billionaires and Big Corps financially and politically supported Black Lives Matter. So I guess it’s time they started to feel the pain too.
“You’re a Chicago lover? If you don’t mind, what books can you recommend?”
Well there’s always “In the Jungle of Cities” by Bertolt Brecht.
European intellectuals used to fantasize about an imaginary Chicago, a city none of them had visited.
OT — If this bill passes, Steve Sailer becomes a murderer, because any informational transaction which looks to a drug-addled communist pinkhair to have led to white supremacist violence (eg, quoting government statistics) becomes conflated with the violence; a deliberate conspiracy rather than a stranger reading a public blog. It’s the government giving up on any pretense to Constitutional law and criminalizing criticism of the government, by claiming that the criticism caused violence, the “stochastic terrorism” line. Notice this is not incitement, which must be direct. This is throwing out the standard of direct incitement.
I’m guessing McConnell, Graham, Cornyn and Romney are already sold.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr61/BILLS-118hr61ih.pdf
Billionaires pushed wokeness and globalism. F*** em.
Chicago is a shit globohomo city.
Let it burn.
Ken Griffin was also at the heart of the Gamestop stock fiasco of 2021, which some believe may not be over yet. (Really, would anything be surprising at this point?) And according to Grit Capital, his outstanding returns in a year that was pretty dismal for the rest of the financial world are a bit suspicious. High frequency trading, payment for order flow (invented by Bernie Madoff)…the guy has a finger in all of the worst Wall Street excesses. And that’s assuming that everything is above board and he’s not running what is an effective bucket shop for retail traders. I suspect that the Florida move is to curry favor for a hopeful DeSantis administration, angling for a cabinet position and/or a pardon.
https://youtube.com/shorts/O4pXalVtrpw?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/O4pXalVtrpw?feature=shareReplies: @Steve Sailer
And yet he lost 25% on his real estate purchases in the city where he has lived since the 1980s.
And according to the video his posted, Griffin's firms made 10's of billion's in revenue in 2022. So losing a few mil in a couple of real estate transactions is nothing.
Griffin leaving Chicago because of crime is a good story, but he may be leaving to cover his own ass.
So History books, then.
I don’t know why, but every person who hails from the Windy City whom I have met has been overly “proud” of themselves. They hold themselves in very high esteem. Why? I don’t know. Maybe because Chicago is the biggest city in the midwest or something. To anyone who has spent much of their life abroad, in the world’s cities, it is hard to understand Chicagoan’s attitudes. Is Chicago that great? Is Chicago as great as Seattle, Vancouver or San Francisco? Boston or NYC?
Some of FL cheerleading is a bit over done but I must admit Miami has really improved over the past few years.
So… a billionaire loses $7 million on two Chicago properties and moves to Florida. Smart move. That $7 million will mean absolutely nothing if he gets stabbed or shot to death by some feral 17-year-old Negro with an IQ of 79.
He’ll recoup the money in no time by paying no state income tax in Florida. He gets to live longer, not fuel the crooked Illinois political machine with his money, and not freeze half the year, and he can have an AR-15 for defense or recreational shooting. Win-win-win, all around.
Florida has a terrible climate, dysgenic for whites, and as boring as hell. (Other than that occasional gale which blows away your shack.) There's a reason nobody lived south of Orlando before 1890.Oh, yeah, go to Florida to escape that. That's what Idaho is for. You may as well move to England to escape rain.Replies: @AnotherDad
It took twenty comments for anyone to mention "income taxes", and so far you're the only one.
Democrats and California can get away with imposing an abusive income tax burden, because of the weather and natural amenities of California. Essentially, they are like Saddam or those oil state Sheikhs--they've seized control of a geographic based asset and can live high on the hog as result.
But Chicago exists because it is where the railroads went around the lake. The natural trading midwestern agricultural commodities and manufacturing center (using Minnesota iron) of industrial products. But those advantages are much reduced in the modern economy and there is no real "lifestyle" reason--beyond the existing Chicago arts/entertainment amenities for why anyone need be there.
Illinois simply can not loot people the way California can. What does it offer in return that people can't find moving elsewhere? Nothing.Replies: @BenjaminL, @Anonymous
I don’t think Chicago residential real estate has been in the same class as NYC, LA, or DC in terms of being an essentially can’t-lose investment for 40 years, maybe longer.
The other cities have massive advantages with their locations (or in DC’s case recession proof ‘industry’) and can afford to have things get a bit loose because of that and their total dominance of a few major sectors. Chicago is big but not dominant in any way to them, has similar or worse weather, and has all the problems of a city with a large concentrated black population.
So other than the climate in the Southwest, and the access to the permanent government in DC, I don't know that any American city has a particular reason to exist where it does anymore. The Ports of Newark, New Orleans, and Long Beach still do some genuine trade, but 98% of their local conurbations could disappear and the ports would still function just fine (maybe better), so it's not like most of the city is actually needed there. They're just there from geohistorical inertia.
Chicago actually has a bit of justification in this department as it is the transshipment point between the Mississippi watershed and the Great Lakes watershed. (But the "98% unnecessary" rule still applies.)
Being a major cultural force is one thing. But it is another to know whether that force is largely for the good or the bad.Chicago, like NYC, is on the bad side.
Like NYC, Chicago has delivered all the evil it could muster in areas that many see as contradictory: dehumanizing laissez faire by the RICH; radical academia and resulting radical politics and journalism; corrupt labor movements; Jewish bribery everywhere; old WASP money allied with Jew money to romanticize Negroes, etc.
Like many of his works I can't entirely recommend it, for example its short coverage of the mess including the F-111 is Not Even Wrong, the TFX was the F-35 of that era. While no one I respect doubts the corruption in awarding the contract to General Dynamics the failure was built into the requirements of the program like with so many issues and limitations of the F-35 which at least got all its variants flying instead of only one out of the five of the TFX (for details read Pournelle et. al.'s The Strategy of Technology, and the F-111 was for the time fine as an interdiction bomber and combat proven in Vietnam).
So the TL;DR: from this part of the story is that California had a rootless population and big media buys controlled its politics, and guess where a lot of that money came from. Can't remember all the details he got into, but one thing that I think it personally slotted into place as I was reading it was the big question of why California has so many commissions etc. to provide sinecures for its rapacious political class. So maybe try "American Pravda: The Power of Organized Crime.
OK, another thing Chicago has been delivering us is the decline and fall of Boeing, which moved its headquarters there in 2001 due to its new political instead of engineering masters (beware when a successful company buys a failing one, the executives from the former are probably better at politics) And heh, last year they said they were going to move to Arlington, Virginia which is probably still a lot safer than Chicago has become, and makes some business sense because they've got significant military sales. As has been noted starting with our host, there's a fair amount of that going around as Chicago companies decide they've had enough of the city and the state.Replies: @Hibernian
One of the things I learned when I was a Private Bankster was that People with that sort of money separate investments from lifestyle.
2. Can you provide your standards for a “great city,” other than claiming resident billionaires?
3. How often would you expect even to have seen — forget about knowing — Mr. Griffin out and about either “very upscale neighborhood”?Replies: @AndrewR, @Half Canadian
Austin is a nice city but I’ve heard it’s gone downhill in quality since my last visit in 2009.
San Antonio is also nice.
Denver (certainly in the middle of the country if Chicago is) is great, or at least the metro area, largely due to the nearby mountains. But driving up/down the hills and mountains isn’t fun especially in the winter.
“For those of us who love Chicago and feel that the middle of the USA deserves a great city, this is not encouraging.”
Even aside from the negro factors in River North, Mag Mile and Rush St., is the explosion in homelessness and aggressiveness of panhandlers. They’re everywhere up there. The best time to go up there now is when it’s really cold but not around Christmas. And it kind sucks walking around through the tall buildings where the lake wind gets funneled and you freeze your ass off.
And the attentive, handsome middle aged white ladies who used to man the floors and registers of the department stores at Water Tower and up and Michigan Ave. have been replaced with…. wanna guess? ugly and dim black and foreign women who act like mustering even the slightest effort to perform their job is the biggest affront to decency that one could possibly imagine.
I'm guessing McConnell, Graham, Cornyn and Romney are already sold.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr61/BILLS-118hr61ih.pdfReplies: @AndrewR, @Corvinus
Surely we can vote our way out of this. Don’t forget to buy the latest Trump NFT! #MAGA #KAG
I think Frogger’s point is the loss is a small price to pay in order to avoid jail time.
And according to the video his posted, Griffin’s firms made 10’s of billion’s in revenue in 2022. So losing a few mil in a couple of real estate transactions is nothing.
Griffin leaving Chicago because of crime is a good story, but he may be leaving to cover his own ass.
What a mystery!
Chicago Racial Demographics by decade, 1910-2000 (Scrolls automatically):
American Pharaoh: Mayor Richard J. Daley – His Battle for Chicago and the Nation
The other cities have massive advantages with their locations (or in DC's case recession proof 'industry') and can afford to have things get a bit loose because of that and their total dominance of a few major sectors. Chicago is big but not dominant in any way to them, has similar or worse weather, and has all the problems of a city with a large concentrated black population.Replies: @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri
Chicago’s main draw is being the major metropolis of the north central US. I live near Detroit and know way more people who have moved to Chicago than to NYC. It would be interesting to see a map of where migrants to Chicago come from vs migrants to NYC.
But each of those cities is #1 in the country for one or more major high paying industries or elements of the economy so to some extent there are people that have to live in or around them, whereas the same is not true for Chicago. That means there are more people with high incomes/net worth that will hit the eject button when they become dissatisfied with the quality of life there than some other big cities.
When I was there this spring I was treated to a rant by a 30-something black Uber driver about how the city is going to dogsh!t, saying crime is now common in the shopping and entertainment districts around downtown and he avoids picking up people in West Loop, River North, etc. at night now because of the scum it attracts looking for trouble. The increasing level of disorder in society hits different cities in varied ways, but amongst the heavyweights I'd say Chicago is most vulnerable to the effects, and unfortunately city leaders for the most part don't get that.Replies: @JimDandy, @AndrewR
What happens when there are no more places to run away to? Where will the residents of Martha’s Vineyard run away to?
Now their sights are set on New Zealand.
That’s the most direct, coherent theory I’ve heard. Black flight is very much a thing in Chicago, though.
Chicago is eventually just going to become Detroit on a bigger, grander scale.
Regarding condominiums when I commuted into Da Loop from the mid 2000s until the late 20-teens I remember seeing all the billboards in the city advertising one-bedroom condos from $250K and two-bedrooms from $350K from my seat on the Metra train. I remember they built a big condo a few blocks east on Jackson down from Union Station.
Yeah, if they haven’t left those people are boned:
https://abc7chicago.com/cook-county-property-tax-pilsen-assessor-fritz-kaegi-taxes/12694741/
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/chicago-board-trade-building-seized-lender
Cook County’s tax assessor has decided to FINALLY make Chicago residents pay their fair share of property taxes to prop up underfunded pension plans. The people left are screaming mad while bigger firms are leaving and taking their tax money elsewhere. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted, eh?
Mike Royko’s Boss is a classic, if you’re interested in understanding how The City That Works worked. A collection of his columns would be a great intro, too.
I have that book. It's called One More Time: The Best of Mike Royko:
https://www.amazon.com/One-More-Time-Best-Royko/dp/0226730727
Totally worth purchasing.
Proud of you for not recommending Devil in the White City.
I knew somebody would beat me to that observation. I moved there for a year and my first and last impression of Chicago is the same:
How can one place have sh!tty weather 365 days of the year?
Throw in the big city noise, pollution, and rudeness and you have a real non-charmer of a place. Even NYC and Atlanta have ( mostly older) charming neighborhoods, and one of them is full of nice people.
FIBs
“Bantu depreciation” should be taught in cost accounting classes
On the other hand, if Griffin sold it for $11,200,000 then someone else was willing to pay that to live there. Or have it as a pied a terre.
No particular ideological point to prove, just sayin’ {wink}
In Wisconsin we have a term of endearment for our Illinois neighbors:
FIBs
F***ing
Illinois
B@$+@rds
Though now I have adult kids in Illinois; including one in Chicago.
So I say it really means Fine Illinois Brethren
ITYM Tintin in Congo.
OK, but doesn’t he make back those losses in a couple of days or a week of Citadeling around?
Ken Griffin is worth 28 billion, so this is peanuts. hopefully he becomes a more serious type of Republican donor and not another standard issue one pushing the usual useless stuff.
Griffin made the most money out of everybody in America last year. his main fund, Citadel, is managing 55 billion in assets. he also owns and operates several other funds.
not explored much here, because the dissident right is poor and powerless and knows nothing about actual money, is how Griffin makes all that money.
well, one of the things Griffin owns and operates is called Citadel Securities, and it’s a trading platform. it executes a large percentage of trades for brokers for the entire country. this means Ken Griffin gets to see all the trades coming in before they are executed, and can react accordingly on his own positions. he has much, much better market information than anybody else.
There’s been no economic need for a New York of the Midwest at least since airline deregulation. A as far as Chicago’s cultural side, the people who care the most about culture have been cheering for or passively accepting the decline for many years.
Not as big and better weather, hurricanes notwithstanding,
Not as bad as the East Coast.
Corruption!
Crime!
Political Turmoil! (Medium Cool)
Shoot You in Bed!
All that over FIFTY years ago!!!
by far the most important thing dissident right people can do to advance their cause is learn how to trade stocks. learn how to make real money. everything else is bullshit nonsense. decades spent on total dead ends.
especially, forget activism, forget law, and forget lawyers. lawyers are poor and do what the money tells them to do. lawyers are unimpressive, mediocre second rate people who go with the flow. the money puts lawyers in their positions and instructs them on how it wants them to rule.
lawyers are assets and material like steel and soldiers. headquarters allocating them is how the battles are won. armies of lawyers themselves don’t win anything on their own, they are directed into battles by money.
Peter Brimelow is still the most important guy in the dissident right and it’s not a coincidence he was a finance guy. every Dissident Right starter pack should include a subscription to ZeroHedge or equivalent financial advice. your enemies trade stocks to make big money to crush you. you better learn how to respond.
Agree: Johann Ricke
They walk you through the most important rule you need to know before investing your money:
Everybody is lying--about everything.
Zero Hedge shows you where a lot of the bodies are buried.
The Outfit by Gus Russo. Just so happens that Joey and Nick Bosa of 49ers and Chargers are great grandsons of Tony Accardo, a big Outfit guy.
Not only that, we are EXCEPTIONALLY stupid, have a 10.25% sales tax and vote DEMOCRATIC 100% of the time.
Nah. Subtract ten years of inflation and the loss must exceed 40%. Conceivably 50%.
FIBs
F***ing
Illinois
B@$+@rds
Though now I have adult kids in Illinois; including one in Chicago.
So I say it really means Fine Illinois BrethrenReplies: @JimDandy, @AP
Ok, Cheesehead. Every read Wisconsin Death Trip?
I (still) love Chicago. Where are you from, so I can return the compliments?
The Golden State. And there’s nothing you can say about it that I haven’t said myself.
But at least the weather is a lot nicer.
George Soros is responsible for the deaths of more Americans and the destruction of more property than Osama bin Laden. But apparently it’s okay–he’s doing it legally.
Exactly. Why did he not go to Rancho Santa Fe, La Jolla, Del Mar etc., to escape the madness. may he has to be on the East for his funny business.
Chicago was the best city in America.* Most beautiful and very American architecture, wonderful parks, boulevards and beaches, great arts, cleaner than that big old East Coast rival, etc. Damn shame what has been happening to it under progressive leadership.
* Half of it, at least. Whoever said Chicago was half Toronto and half Detroit was onto something, though Chicago architecture leaves Toronto in the dust.
FIBs
F***ing
Illinois
B@$+@rds
Though now I have adult kids in Illinois; including one in Chicago.
So I say it really means Fine Illinois BrethrenReplies: @JimDandy, @AP
You live in Illinois’s largest state park.
Despite all the damage Lightfoot, Foxx, etc. have done, Chicago is still the best big city in America to live in, in you live in on the North Side and have concealed carry. Miami has a much better government, but fuck living in Miami. Chicago is convenient, still relatively clean, filled with culture, best restaurant culture in America. Summertime is particularly great, for many reasons. That’s not to say that the horrible direction it’s moving in is reversible. The most depressing thing that happened recently was a couple instances of black youths “taking over” North Avenue Beach and then invading Old Town at night, blocking traffic, jumping up on cars, etc. Big mayoral election coming up and I have no idea what the expect. The cops endorsed Paul Vallas, of all people, so that’s who I will be voting for.
As White people leave, Black power and Black control of territory increases.
Is there a consensus explanation for why the value declined and why by so much?
San Antonio is also nice.
Denver (certainly in the middle of the country if Chicago is) is great, or at least the metro area, largely due to the nearby mountains. But driving up/down the hills and mountains isn't fun especially in the winter.Replies: @Greta Handel
Thanks for commenting. I would still like to know why Mr. Sailer apparently calibrates the “greatness” of a place with its billionaires.
In the meantime, reviewing the other comments indicates that many people crave identification with bigness, power, and wealth, similar to being a fan of a sports team or orbiting a celebrity or politician. Even though none of the big shots could care less about them or the “neighborhood” where they happen to own one of their multiple homes.
I grew up in a large city, and on a day-by-day basis much prefer the relative backwater where I ended up. I don’t have a TV, but I could use one to get just as close as anyone else here to the “greats” if I cared to.
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It's actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA's San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger's Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married... with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there's Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hibernian, @JimDandy, @Eric Novak
Chicago is a shit globohomo city.
Let it burn.Replies: @Meretricious
I’ve lived in Chicago, and I can report that its gay community contributes mightily to creating innovative businesses and maintaining splendid neighborhoods.
As we all know, the factors destroying urban life–worldwide–are the relative presence of 1) Negroes and 2) sundry other low-IQ populations like Muslims. Nothing to do with sexual orientation.
But I don't think it is sexual orientation per se as much as the LGBT ideology accompanying it, now finding its expression in World War T, as our host would put it, which is steadily advancing towards the crib as well.
Most such 'innovative' businesses amount to little more than pandering to the vanity of urban affluence. All style, no substance.
You don't need homos to maintain good neighborhoods. Minus blacks, most neighborhoods can do pretty fine. Minus blacks, even many low-income neighborhoods are low-crime.
Also, it's not so much that homos make wealth but flock to areas with wealth.
Worst of all, no matter what homos contribute economically, their cultural agenda is corrupting and creates an empire of lies and degeneracy, from which BLM feeds on.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
Like NYC, Chicago has delivered all the evil it could muster in areas that many see as contradictory: dehumanizing laissez faire by the RICH; radical academia and resulting radical politics and journalism; corrupt labor movements; Jewish bribery everywhere; old WASP money allied with Jew money to romanticize Negroes, etc.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Our meta-host Mr. Unz in his American Pravda collection makes a case this also delivered “The Political Conquest of California” (a heading about 2/5ths into it).
Like many of his works I can’t entirely recommend it, for example its short coverage of the mess including the F-111 is Not Even Wrong, the TFX was the F-35 of that era. While no one I respect doubts the corruption in awarding the contract to General Dynamics the failure was built into the requirements of the program like with so many issues and limitations of the F-35 which at least got all its variants flying instead of only one out of the five of the TFX (for details read Pournelle et. al.’s The Strategy of Technology, and the F-111 was for the time fine as an interdiction bomber and combat proven in Vietnam).
So the TL;DR: from this part of the story is that California had a rootless population and big media buys controlled its politics, and guess where a lot of that money came from. Can’t remember all the details he got into, but one thing that I think it personally slotted into place as I was reading it was the big question of why California has so many commissions etc. to provide sinecures for its rapacious political class. So maybe try “American Pravda: The Power of Organized Crime.
OK, another thing Chicago has been delivering us is the decline and fall of Boeing, which moved its headquarters there in 2001 due to its new political instead of engineering masters (beware when a successful company buys a failing one, the executives from the former are probably better at politics) And heh, last year they said they were going to move to Arlington, Virginia which is probably still a lot safer than Chicago has become, and makes some business sense because they’ve got significant military sales. As has been noted starting with our host, there’s a fair amount of that going around as Chicago companies decide they’ve had enough of the city and the state.
“A collection of his columns would be a great intro, too.”
I have that book. It’s called One More Time: The Best of Mike Royko:
Totally worth purchasing.
#49
I seem to remember a Mike Royko column from decades past where he asserted that for every year a student spent in the Chicago Public Schools, his IQ fell one point. This would explain why the “Flynn effect” never had *any* effect in Chicago.
2. Can you provide your standards for a “great city,” other than claiming resident billionaires?
3. How often would you expect even to have seen — forget about knowing — Mr. Griffin out and about either “very upscale neighborhood”?Replies: @AndrewR, @Half Canadian
The wealthy provide patronage for the arts, for architecture, museums and for education. Chicago has all this, but for how long?
especially, forget activism, forget law, and forget lawyers. lawyers are poor and do what the money tells them to do. lawyers are unimpressive, mediocre second rate people who go with the flow. the money puts lawyers in their positions and instructs them on how it wants them to rule.
lawyers are assets and material like steel and soldiers. headquarters allocating them is how the battles are won. armies of lawyers themselves don't win anything on their own, they are directed into battles by money.
Peter Brimelow is still the most important guy in the dissident right and it's not a coincidence he was a finance guy. every Dissident Right starter pack should include a subscription to ZeroHedge or equivalent financial advice. your enemies trade stocks to make big money to crush you. you better learn how to respond.Replies: @Rusty Tailgate, @William Badwhite, @Justvisiting
Why don’t you just drop some tips right here for our edification?
I’m still getting Trump something something requests.
Chicago has lost Mayor Richard J Daley – “Shoot to maim looters! Shoot to kill arsonists!” – but at least Illinois has Kyle Rittenhouse.
First American bestseller is a fictionalized account of immigrant life in Chicago. And the term “bestseller” appeared thanks to this book published in 1906:
The life of Lithuanian Immigrant Jurgis Rudkus and his family in Chicago at the turn of the Century.
I still remember one episode where drunk rich guy gives Jurgis $100 bill for helping him get home. Jurgis goes to the bar, orders a cheap drink – only to get some change – because in his life with wages 50 cents- $1 per day – $100 bill is useless. Bartender gives him change from $10 then accuses him of being drunk and disorderly. Soon after bartender’s pal – a crooked cop – arrives, beats Jurgis up and drags him to prison.
It happened to one of my friends too, only 80 years later 😁
Second City Cop was my on my must read daily list.
Don’t get me wrong, Chicago does have a lot of things going for it – obviously architecture, great food scene, shopping, museums and culture. The real estate you can get that is accessible to these things is way cheaper than NYC, LA, SF, DC or Boston too.
But each of those cities is #1 in the country for one or more major high paying industries or elements of the economy so to some extent there are people that have to live in or around them, whereas the same is not true for Chicago. That means there are more people with high incomes/net worth that will hit the eject button when they become dissatisfied with the quality of life there than some other big cities.
When I was there this spring I was treated to a rant by a 30-something black Uber driver about how the city is going to dogsh!t, saying crime is now common in the shopping and entertainment districts around downtown and he avoids picking up people in West Loop, River North, etc. at night now because of the scum it attracts looking for trouble. The increasing level of disorder in society hits different cities in varied ways, but amongst the heavyweights I’d say Chicago is most vulnerable to the effects, and unfortunately city leaders for the most part don’t get that.
"city leaders for the most part don’t get that."
I90? that’s probably the best expressway in the city! Let’s see:
You have I290 that cuts the city in half heading west from the Loop – It’s the world’s fastest moving parking lot in either direction from about 7am until 8pm every single day of the year. Unless you’re black. Then you just drive on the shoulder.
Then you have I55, or also known as the Mexican Swap Meet. Each exit has its own unique retail vendor awaiting to provide you with just the most exceptional deals on slightly lukewarm merch in the Tristate Area.
Ashland/Damon exit – well, Ok, this exit are just bums and beggars but whatever.
Kedzie/California: Street Tacos
Pulaski: 26 year old negroes wearing bare shoulder pads asking for donations to their junior high school football team’s Sizzler night.
Cicero Ave: Soccer Balls for sale.
Central Ave: Socks! Mucho socks!
Harlem Ave: Flowers, picked fresh daily from the nearest florist’s dumpster.
Then there’s my personal favorite – I90/94 or the Dan Ryan. AKA The Wakandianapolis 500. Take a scenic drive southbound from McCormick Place to 95th Street, where on any given day you can take part in an unsolicited drag race, pose as a beer bottle in the world’s largest shooting gallery, participate in a real life version of the game Frogger, only as one of the vehicles, or play dodgeball (or dodge shoe, dodge trash, or dodge misc debris) with turnstyle jumpers loitering upon the multiple Red Line El platforms that stand between each direction of traffic.
I90; pishh!! I mean come on. It’s named after Kennedy, for chrissakes.
But each of those cities is #1 in the country for one or more major high paying industries or elements of the economy so to some extent there are people that have to live in or around them, whereas the same is not true for Chicago. That means there are more people with high incomes/net worth that will hit the eject button when they become dissatisfied with the quality of life there than some other big cities.
When I was there this spring I was treated to a rant by a 30-something black Uber driver about how the city is going to dogsh!t, saying crime is now common in the shopping and entertainment districts around downtown and he avoids picking up people in West Loop, River North, etc. at night now because of the scum it attracts looking for trouble. The increasing level of disorder in society hits different cities in varied ways, but amongst the heavyweights I'd say Chicago is most vulnerable to the effects, and unfortunately city leaders for the most part don't get that.Replies: @JimDandy, @AndrewR
I mostly agree, though I’m not sure about this:
“city leaders for the most part don’t get that.”
Not surprising, Chicago is a dangerous town!
Don’t worry, there’ll be a fresh new supply of billionaire’s.
Getting them to move to Chicago might be a problem.
https://www.worldatlarge.news/coffee-break-reads/2023/1/11/poland-seeks-to-become-true-land-superpower-in-europe-adds-new-army-division?
Ukraine, the grift that keeps on giving.
But each of those cities is #1 in the country for one or more major high paying industries or elements of the economy so to some extent there are people that have to live in or around them, whereas the same is not true for Chicago. That means there are more people with high incomes/net worth that will hit the eject button when they become dissatisfied with the quality of life there than some other big cities.
When I was there this spring I was treated to a rant by a 30-something black Uber driver about how the city is going to dogsh!t, saying crime is now common in the shopping and entertainment districts around downtown and he avoids picking up people in West Loop, River North, etc. at night now because of the scum it attracts looking for trouble. The increasing level of disorder in society hits different cities in varied ways, but amongst the heavyweights I'd say Chicago is most vulnerable to the effects, and unfortunately city leaders for the most part don't get that.Replies: @JimDandy, @AndrewR
Forgive my ignorance but what is Boston #1 for?
Also, do Chicago politicians not know or do they not care? The Daleys were a sort of dynasty if not monarchy but the problem with American democracy is that politicians have no real incentive to improve things. Worst that happens to them is they get voted out and live a comfy retirement in a safe place while newly elected politicians continue the same bad policies. It’s not like Lightfoot will be forced to spend her whole life living on the south side. I doubt she’ll live in the city when she leaves office (assuming she even does now)
Route 128 is dead, but the web gave the metro area a renewal in computer high tech. Also lots of biotech, like computer tech also often spinoffs of the local universities. There are of course many, many more colleges and universities in the metro area, at one point was called "The Athens of America" and Harvard's set of libraries are the biggest private set in the world, and I can attest to the main, legal and medical ones as being awesome (if you aren't part of the Harvard community, become friends with someone who is). Harvard Square was a great place to buy books in the 1980s, and there were some great specialized ones in the metro area.
Thanks to things like the Curley Effect, Boston proper is very small, so most of the above aren't in the city limits including Boston College, except the medical schools for BU, Harvard and Tufts as are the top hospitals. So one city's bad policies won't necessarily ruin the rest, and the smaller ones outside of Boston probably won't be targeted by Soros.
Chicago has been losing millionaires for years, according to the reports on the migration of High Net Worth Individuals (HNWI)
https://www.henleyglobal.com/newsroom/industry-insights/the-changing-face-of-millionaire-migration
Australia gained the most millionaires through migration in 2020 – 12 thousand.
This is a report from 2015 I remember reading, which mentioned Chicago losing millionaires, London staying the same, and Paris losing A LOT of millionaires. Destination countries – Australia, Switzerland, UAE and the US (other parts of it).
https://estudiosadventistas.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/nwh-millionairesfleeing.pdf
Globohomo does double duty for gays and homogenization.
But I don’t think it is sexual orientation per se as much as the LGBT ideology accompanying it, now finding its expression in World War T, as our host would put it, which is steadily advancing towards the crib as well.
“Love” of any city is based purely upon your perception of it from media, unless of course you have lived there for some significant time.
“In the meantime, reviewing the other comments indicates that many people crave identification with bigness, power, and wealth, similar to being a fan of a sports team or orbiting a celebrity or politician”
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It’s actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA’s San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger’s Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married… with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there’s Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.
A lot of this has been lost through mass culture, though. IRL, most 21st century people would just as soon sit in front of the tube in their porchless houses. Look at street scenes in any city pre-1950, or recall running around with friends after school without adult direction — the decline in how people lived among and looked out for each other is undeniable.
Visiting a “great” city is fine once I’m there, but there’s no longer any desire to live in one. Knowing on a first name basis the people where I shop, dine, and drink is more important to me.Replies: @JimDandy
Hey Ledneck! Always thought you were cattle farmer or corn or wheat!
Turn out you lice paddy farmer like me!
Chicago’s ethnic demographics are “risky.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Chicago#2021_United_States_Census_Bureau_American_Community_Survey_estimates
If Blacks are nearly 30% of the city’s population, you just can’t install insane people at the top if you want the city to survive. You need constant vigilance and shrew decision making. Given enough space to operate without much oversight, Blacks are capable of destroying a city forever. This is what seems to be happening now in Chicago.
With the rise of remote work, you don’t even need to have office space in the city. Just set up a large suburban office park and have a lot of important people work online.
A city like Seattle or Portland will survive. Why? The Black population isn’t huge in either city. Chicago has a massive Black population and has no room for error. I’m pretty sure the current insanity means it’s game over for Chicago.
RIP Chicago.
Back in 2014, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s son was physically assaulted and robbed near his home. He was placed in a chokehold and punched. He suffered a chipped tooth.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-rahm-emanuel-son-mugged-20150309-story.html
Nantucket. They’re already wrecking it.
Now their sights are set on New Zealand.
It’s been almost 20 years since I visited, but I always found Chicago people to be markedly more friendly than DC or NYC people.
Stipulating the following:
1. That’s about the faintest praise possible
2. My experience in Chicago was generally curated, i.e. upscale cocktail parties and restaurants etc.
So, let’s recap, shall we? When it comes to Chicago, I may not have a clue what I’m talking about. Thank you all for your time 😉
I’d put Chicago ahead of Seattle, but that’s not saying much…
Higher education and research? Harvard and MIT are two of the very top R1 schools. Wikipedia reports Boston College, Boston University, Brandeis University, Northeastern and Tufts as R1. I’ll vouch for some good research being done in the latter two, and, hey, BU didn’t let their COVID gain of function experiment escape from their BSL-4 lab (as far as we know COVID escaped from a BSL-2 lab). Just having a BSL-4 lab is a big thing, there will be only 14 in the US when the one in Manhattan, Kansas is operating.
Route 128 is dead, but the web gave the metro area a renewal in computer high tech. Also lots of biotech, like computer tech also often spinoffs of the local universities. There are of course many, many more colleges and universities in the metro area, at one point was called “The Athens of America” and Harvard’s set of libraries are the biggest private set in the world, and I can attest to the main, legal and medical ones as being awesome (if you aren’t part of the Harvard community, become friends with someone who is). Harvard Square was a great place to buy books in the 1980s, and there were some great specialized ones in the metro area.
Thanks to things like the Curley Effect, Boston proper is very small, so most of the above aren’t in the city limits including Boston College, except the medical schools for BU, Harvard and Tufts as are the top hospitals. So one city’s bad policies won’t necessarily ruin the rest, and the smaller ones outside of Boston probably won’t be targeted by Soros.
Minneapolis?
https://www.amazon.com/Jungle-Upton-Sinclair/dp/1503331865
The life of Lithuanian Immigrant Jurgis Rudkus and his family in Chicago at the turn of the Century.
I still remember one episode where drunk rich guy gives Jurgis $100 bill for helping him get home. Jurgis goes to the bar, orders a cheap drink - only to get some change - because in his life with wages 50 cents- $1 per day - $100 bill is useless. Bartender gives him change from $10 then accuses him of being drunk and disorderly. Soon after bartender's pal - a crooked cop - arrives, beats Jurgis up and drags him to prison.
It happened to one of my friends too, only 80 years later 😁Replies: @Anonymous
Were the Rudkus’s supposed to have been Jewish?
JUDEA captured Great American Literature in the 50's.
Great American Fisherman & Empire - Builder Mark Levy can be found in "The Immigrants" by Howard Fast.Replies: @jinkforp
RIP White Chicago. Hail Black Chicago. Good for the blacks, even if it isn’t for whites?
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It's actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA's San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger's Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married... with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there's Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hibernian, @JimDandy, @Eric Novak
Those positive, downscaled aspects have been evident during my times in Chicago, as well as in other large cities.
A lot of this has been lost through mass culture, though. IRL, most 21st century people would just as soon sit in front of the tube in their porchless houses. Look at street scenes in any city pre-1950, or recall running around with friends after school without adult direction — the decline in how people lived among and looked out for each other is undeniable.
Visiting a “great” city is fine once I’m there, but there’s no longer any desire to live in one. Knowing on a first name basis the people where I shop, dine, and drink is more important to me.
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It's actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA's San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger's Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married... with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there's Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hibernian, @JimDandy, @Eric Novak
Only on the North Side, and even that was questionable.
Yeah. Any more questions?
Only because he was born there, and reared in Rat Mouth. It’s a homecoming for him.
Florida has a terrible climate, dysgenic for whites, and as boring as hell. (Other than that occasional gale which blows away your shack.) There’s a reason nobody lived south of Orlando before 1890.
Oh, yeah, go to Florida to escape that. That’s what Idaho is for. You may as well move to England to escape rain.
But objectively the Florida "climate" is far superior to the Midwest's. It's just that people have been doing "heating" for a few hundred thousand years and "cooling"--at least effectively--for only a century.
This weekend was actually "cold" here. (Overnight lows in the 40s. Our bedroom was 59 when I woke up--we didn't bother turning on the heat.) Yet, AnotherMom and I walked into town and peeked in on the beach this morning, comfortably warm in the sunshine with just long a sleeve shirt. It's 63 or so out there now.
It does get "hot" from sometime in May through October. But late October through early May we more or less live "windows open" lifestyle. And through the Jun-Sept summer slog we'd be AC-ing down 10-12 degrees on average for something comfortable. While in Minneapolis you need to heat 50 degrees in mid-winter to have a comfortable house.
Leave me in Florida without AC, i'd be miserable for 3 months in the summer--but alive. Without heat in Minnesota you'd die the first winter.
Florida has everything – rednecks, Jews, Mexicans, white trash, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, blacks, ex-military, Yankees, Canucks, etc.
It’s a nice place to visit in February, but I would not want to live there.
They wrote New York off in the 1970’s, and even made movies like Fort Apache the Bronx and Escape from New York during this time. Corporations were moving their headquarters out of the city, such as American Airlines. Yet, New York bounced back. Part of the reason that some real estate is losing value in parts of Chicago is that too much has been built recently in too short of time. There have been several huge residential developments and several really tall residential buildings built lately during a time when the economy cooled due to Covid.
I’ve lived in Chicago, and I can report that its gay community contributes mightily to creating innovative businesses and maintaining splendid neighborhoods.
Most such ‘innovative’ businesses amount to little more than pandering to the vanity of urban affluence. All style, no substance.
You don’t need homos to maintain good neighborhoods. Minus blacks, most neighborhoods can do pretty fine. Minus blacks, even many low-income neighborhoods are low-crime.
Also, it’s not so much that homos make wealth but flock to areas with wealth.
Worst of all, no matter what homos contribute economically, their cultural agenda is corrupting and creates an empire of lies and degeneracy, from which BLM feeds on.
https://vdare.com/articles/brookings-does-diversity-sort-of
Chicagoans can’t have hometown pride?
The other cities have massive advantages with their locations (or in DC's case recession proof 'industry') and can afford to have things get a bit loose because of that and their total dominance of a few major sectors. Chicago is big but not dominant in any way to them, has similar or worse weather, and has all the problems of a city with a large concentrated black population.Replies: @AndrewR, @Almost Missouri
LA has a genuine weather advantage versus just about anywhere, but NYC’s weather is about the same as Chicago’s, so I don’t see that that NYC’s location is much real advantage. It was formerly an important manufacturing center and port but the factories are mostly gone now and the piers now mostly just dock cruise ships so anxious NYers can get out of town. Bloomberg supposedly turned NYC into a “playground for billionaires”, which is nice for them I guess, but if you happen to be in the other 99.99999% of the population it just means higher prices and more velvet ropes you can’t cross. DC’s advantage is indeed its recession-proof “industry” (as you nicely put it), but that isn’t replicable anywhere else without a second American Revolution.
So other than the climate in the Southwest, and the access to the permanent government in DC, I don’t know that any American city has a particular reason to exist where it does anymore. The Ports of Newark, New Orleans, and Long Beach still do some genuine trade, but 98% of their local conurbations could disappear and the ports would still function just fine (maybe better), so it’s not like most of the city is actually needed there. They’re just there from geohistorical inertia.
Chicago actually has a bit of justification in this department as it is the transshipment point between the Mississippi watershed and the Great Lakes watershed. (But the “98% unnecessary” rule still applies.)
No, it was too early. And total absence of blacks too (oh the horror !!!).
JUDEA captured Great American Literature in the 50’s.
Great American Fisherman & Empire – Builder Mark Levy can be found in “The Immigrants” by Howard Fast.
Elysium.
A lot of this has been lost through mass culture, though. IRL, most 21st century people would just as soon sit in front of the tube in their porchless houses. Look at street scenes in any city pre-1950, or recall running around with friends after school without adult direction — the decline in how people lived among and looked out for each other is undeniable.
Visiting a “great” city is fine once I’m there, but there’s no longer any desire to live in one. Knowing on a first name basis the people where I shop, dine, and drink is more important to me.Replies: @JimDandy
I get it. I live in Chicago, and as infuriating as the attempts to destroy the city are, I have no desire to leave. There are benefits to the relative anonymity of the city, too. Especially during the mass psychosis.
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It's actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA's San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger's Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married... with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there's Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hibernian, @JimDandy, @Eric Novak
It’s still a fantastic city. But the growing cancers might be terminal.
Steve may love Chicago, but post George Floyd-CIA color revolution replete with Antifa/BLM/pallets-of-bricks delivered to street corners that our crack FBI just can’t seem to solve (who did that? different Epsom salts in the bricks from different manufacturers, textures, lab analysis, street cameras, highway cameras, truckstop weigh stations, receipt orders from brick sellers, recently torn down old brick buildings, cell phone triangulations, Onstar in trucks………and still no clue FBI). Of course the FBI could find out but they were part of it by standing down. Bottom line Steve:
People might be afraid of the powers-that-be color revolutioning us again and want to live near other safe, boring, un-diverse white people after being physically threatened like that. I don’t look for places like Philly or Chicago to really rebound unless fuel prices and Blackrock buying up most of the suburbs and small towns financially almost force them to.
People might be afraid of the powers-that-be color revolutioning us again and want to live near other safe, boring, un-diverse white people after being physically threatened like that. I don't look for places like Philly or Chicago to really rebound unless fuel prices and Blackrock buying up most of the suburbs and small towns financially almost force them to.Replies: @JimDandy
Philly has been a broken shithole for a long time. Chicago was an Alpha city up until recently.
They did it just to see if they could get away with it.
JUDEA captured Great American Literature in the 50's.
Great American Fisherman & Empire - Builder Mark Levy can be found in "The Immigrants" by Howard Fast.Replies: @jinkforp
Jewish book critics captured American literature in the 50’s. Jewish music critics captured classical music.
What are those benefits?
He’s a Sociologist. And makes an interesting case for the city. Someday I’m going to figure out how he adjusts race out of his data.
Fictionalized version of Cabrini Green removal.
Yes the city is doomed, but through unfunded public pensions, not race per se.
The Mexicans + Whites outnumber Blacks. High degree of race realism. Boy’s Town is very realistic.
High Mexican population may facilitate a Brazilification future.
Looks like a video of the spread of cancer in an organ.
Like many of his works I can't entirely recommend it, for example its short coverage of the mess including the F-111 is Not Even Wrong, the TFX was the F-35 of that era. While no one I respect doubts the corruption in awarding the contract to General Dynamics the failure was built into the requirements of the program like with so many issues and limitations of the F-35 which at least got all its variants flying instead of only one out of the five of the TFX (for details read Pournelle et. al.'s The Strategy of Technology, and the F-111 was for the time fine as an interdiction bomber and combat proven in Vietnam).
So the TL;DR: from this part of the story is that California had a rootless population and big media buys controlled its politics, and guess where a lot of that money came from. Can't remember all the details he got into, but one thing that I think it personally slotted into place as I was reading it was the big question of why California has so many commissions etc. to provide sinecures for its rapacious political class. So maybe try "American Pravda: The Power of Organized Crime.
OK, another thing Chicago has been delivering us is the decline and fall of Boeing, which moved its headquarters there in 2001 due to its new political instead of engineering masters (beware when a successful company buys a failing one, the executives from the former are probably better at politics) And heh, last year they said they were going to move to Arlington, Virginia which is probably still a lot safer than Chicago has become, and makes some business sense because they've got significant military sales. As has been noted starting with our host, there's a fair amount of that going around as Chicago companies decide they've had enough of the city and the state.Replies: @Hibernian
I never understood why Boeing didn’t go to St. Louis (the move was post=merger) if they wanted a central location with more diversity; they have major production facilities there,
OK, it's so bad Wikipedia has a "Crime in St. Louis" article! The statistics' historical coverage is very spotty, like the first table jumps from 1959 to 2003, but there's a "'Most Dangerous' ranking of St. Louis (1994–2012)" and for 1994-7 it's 2, 3, 3, 8, and the article mentions the methodology changed in that decade. But it was back up to 5, 5, then #3 in 2000. For a perhaps independent take, "In 2014, St Louis was ranked as the 19th most dangerous city in the world by the Mexican aid organization CCSP-JP (El Consejo Ciudadano para la Seguridad Publica y la Justicia Penal)."
Looking at Chicago mayors, Daley the son was from 1989-2011. Then (((Rahm Emanuel))) and now the disaster of a negro who looks a bit like a space alien. So you can see a proven short sighted management team not thinking things through. Or maybe they also saw hard Left Seattle going to hell, which it to a degree has.
Arlington, VA where they're now moving to is very diverse but the largest part of that is Hispanics who aren't a fraction as dangerous as negroes, and the north part of it is considered "safe." Was also vastly more gun and concealed carry tolerant in the 1990s/early part of this century than Chicago, though both were forced to allow the latter. Here's the 2020 Census breakdown, note a lot of those Asians will be Vietnamese who settled there after the end of the war, it's a great place to get a great bowl of phở.Replies: @Hibernian
But at least the weather is a lot nicer.Replies: @CalCooledge
“But at least the weather is a lot nicer.” And according to Wikipedia, only 6.4% bLack in California. Compare with 15% in Florida, 17% Tennessee, 13% Texas, which are popular Red escapes. Although maybe the better law enforcement in those States counteracts the demographics to some extent.
A decent country would capture and imprison Soros for being a terrorist sponsor, exactly as was done for bin Laden, Omar, etc etc.
In Boston, gays (South End) and lesbians (Jamaica Plain) were the gentrification vanguard, reclaiming lovely areas which had become the Heart of Darkness.
Smart people and educating the same. Bring your checkbook.
In the early ’70s the song “Lake Shore Drive” was wildly popular.
We used to joke about Chicagoan Acid Heads sending cryptic subliminal message to British Acid Heads who came up with the (L)ucy in the (S)ky with (D)iamonds song in 1967.
Chicago was a great place when I lived there in the late ’70s, but started to go down hill when Harold Washington and Richie Daley came in, driving business out of the city with high taxes and weak law enforcement in the ‘hood…
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-rahm-emanuel-son-mugged-20150309-story.htmlReplies: @Mike Tre
SSC reported at the time that Zachy-Boy was actually assaulted while in the process of buying drugs from his assailants. The exact events that led to this transaction going bad will likely never be known, but it’s not hard to imagine little Zachy, with his Wilmette elitist jewboy privilege, getting a little mouthy with his dusky hook up.
No doubt because the failing company Boeing bought who’s superior at politics executives then took it over were from McDonnell-Douglas, their HQ was at the St. Louis Airport just outside the city. The St. Louis metro area was from all I’ve heard was already a diverse shithole by 1997 when the merger happened, I can seem them not want to go back to it, note also Ferguson is a suburb.
OK, it’s so bad Wikipedia has a “Crime in St. Louis” article! The statistics’ historical coverage is very spotty, like the first table jumps from 1959 to 2003, but there’s a “‘Most Dangerous’ ranking of St. Louis (1994–2012)” and for 1994-7 it’s 2, 3, 3, 8, and the article mentions the methodology changed in that decade. But it was back up to 5, 5, then #3 in 2000. For a perhaps independent take, “In 2014, St Louis was ranked as the 19th most dangerous city in the world by the Mexican aid organization CCSP-JP (El Consejo Ciudadano para la Seguridad Publica y la Justicia Penal).”
Looking at Chicago mayors, Daley the son was from 1989-2011. Then (((Rahm Emanuel))) and now the disaster of a negro who looks a bit like a space alien. So you can see a proven short sighted management team not thinking things through. Or maybe they also saw hard Left Seattle going to hell, which it to a degree has.
Arlington, VA where they’re now moving to is very diverse but the largest part of that is Hispanics who aren’t a fraction as dangerous as negroes, and the north part of it is considered “safe.” Was also vastly more gun and concealed carry tolerant in the 1990s/early part of this century than Chicago, though both were forced to allow the latter. Here’s the 2020 Census breakdown, note a lot of those Asians will be Vietnamese who settled there after the end of the war, it’s a great place to get a great bowl of phở.
especially, forget activism, forget law, and forget lawyers. lawyers are poor and do what the money tells them to do. lawyers are unimpressive, mediocre second rate people who go with the flow. the money puts lawyers in their positions and instructs them on how it wants them to rule.
lawyers are assets and material like steel and soldiers. headquarters allocating them is how the battles are won. armies of lawyers themselves don't win anything on their own, they are directed into battles by money.
Peter Brimelow is still the most important guy in the dissident right and it's not a coincidence he was a finance guy. every Dissident Right starter pack should include a subscription to ZeroHedge or equivalent financial advice. your enemies trade stocks to make big money to crush you. you better learn how to respond.Replies: @Rusty Tailgate, @William Badwhite, @Justvisiting
Wow Jack D, you’re getting some really bad reviews lately. Perhaps a few dozen more posts on “Putinists” or some wiki cut-and-pastes about cement will up your stats?
Agree: Johann Ricke
Your fellow blogger Paul Kersey has referred to “the invisible hand of black economics” to explain these types of properties losing value due to the demographics of the area.
Kinda like the opposite of your idea “Magic dirt’.
Chicago and the state of Illinois are losing blacks at a phenomenal rate. In the long term, I would bet in favor of cities and states losing blacks and against cities and states gaining blacks.
https://chicagocrusader.com/blacks-everywhere-are-moving-where-are-they-going/
Blacks are throwing a tantrum in cities like Chicago, SF and LA where they are on the way out. Where I wouldn’t want to be as a white person is the Southeast — Georgia, the Carolinas. That’s the center of negritude and black population growth in America.
Have you been to the suburbs? That’s where the woke wine moms live. The “sense of community” in those places is a nightmarish hell in this progressive age. These days I’d rather not know all my neighbors on a personal basis, and I definitely don’t want them knowing my business.
Singapore. Tel Aviv. Anywhere else. They don’t care.
Alert us when actual families move in.
Thanks Dr. X.
It took twenty comments for anyone to mention “income taxes”, and so far you’re the only one.
Democrats and California can get away with imposing an abusive income tax burden, because of the weather and natural amenities of California. Essentially, they are like Saddam or those oil state Sheikhs–they’ve seized control of a geographic based asset and can live high on the hog as result.
But Chicago exists because it is where the railroads went around the lake. The natural trading midwestern agricultural commodities and manufacturing center (using Minnesota iron) of industrial products. But those advantages are much reduced in the modern economy and there is no real “lifestyle” reason–beyond the existing Chicago arts/entertainment amenities for why anyone need be there.
Illinois simply can not loot people the way California can. What does it offer in return that people can’t find moving elsewhere? Nothing.
https://www.governing.com/now/why-the-old-north-states-have-been-economic-laggards?_amp=true
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/11/indiana-under-republican-rule-pro-business-policy-disappoints-outside-the-sunbelt/
By the standard of "don't be Illinois," Indiana is doing OK, i.e. it's not run by corrupt parasites. But that is a low bar. Judged by the standard of "is this governance actually working for the people," GOP states could be doing a a lot better, and all of the "Old North" states with cold winters, and no beaches or mountains, are struggling.Replies: @AnotherDad
It’s too bad Daddy wasn’t there too. He’s been due a serious beating for a long time.
Florida has a terrible climate, dysgenic for whites, and as boring as hell. (Other than that occasional gale which blows away your shack.) There's a reason nobody lived south of Orlando before 1890.Oh, yeah, go to Florida to escape that. That's what Idaho is for. You may as well move to England to escape rain.Replies: @AnotherDad
Says the guy in Minnesota.
Florida is not my cup of tea. I do find it kind of “boring”. I’m not really a “beach guy”. I’m more oriented to mountains, forests, rivers and lakes. We’re here because AnotherMom likes the beach and we aren’t going to shovel cash to California’s corruptocrats. (Given all the variables of climate, recreation and taxation, I think I would have opted for something around Reno.)
But objectively the Florida “climate” is far superior to the Midwest’s. It’s just that people have been doing “heating” for a few hundred thousand years and “cooling”–at least effectively–for only a century.
This weekend was actually “cold” here. (Overnight lows in the 40s. Our bedroom was 59 when I woke up–we didn’t bother turning on the heat.) Yet, AnotherMom and I walked into town and peeked in on the beach this morning, comfortably warm in the sunshine with just long a sleeve shirt. It’s 63 or so out there now.
It does get “hot” from sometime in May through October. But late October through early May we more or less live “windows open” lifestyle. And through the Jun-Sept summer slog we’d be AC-ing down 10-12 degrees on average for something comfortable. While in Minneapolis you need to heat 50 degrees in mid-winter to have a comfortable house.
Leave me in Florida without AC, i’d be miserable for 3 months in the summer–but alive. Without heat in Minnesota you’d die the first winter.
I know that Mark Spitznagel, libertarian hedge fund backer of Ron Paul relocated to Miami from Los Angeles about a decade ago, he cited Florida as having a much better business climate than California as the main reason.
#124
Thanks for the link:
https://chicagocrusader.com/blacks-everywhere-are-moving-where-are-they-going/
“. . . Chicago and Cook County, where Black flight is well underway. How bad is the problem?”
Problem?
It took twenty comments for anyone to mention "income taxes", and so far you're the only one.
Democrats and California can get away with imposing an abusive income tax burden, because of the weather and natural amenities of California. Essentially, they are like Saddam or those oil state Sheikhs--they've seized control of a geographic based asset and can live high on the hog as result.
But Chicago exists because it is where the railroads went around the lake. The natural trading midwestern agricultural commodities and manufacturing center (using Minnesota iron) of industrial products. But those advantages are much reduced in the modern economy and there is no real "lifestyle" reason--beyond the existing Chicago arts/entertainment amenities for why anyone need be there.
Illinois simply can not loot people the way California can. What does it offer in return that people can't find moving elsewhere? Nothing.Replies: @BenjaminL, @Anonymous
Aaron Renn has an interesting analysis of Indiana (vs Illinois) on this front
https://www.governing.com/now/why-the-old-north-states-have-been-economic-laggards?_amp=true
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/11/indiana-under-republican-rule-pro-business-policy-disappoints-outside-the-sunbelt/
By the standard of “don’t be Illinois,” Indiana is doing OK, i.e. it’s not run by corrupt parasites. But that is a low bar. Judged by the standard of “is this governance actually working for the people,” GOP states could be doing a a lot better, and all of the “Old North” states with cold winters, and no beaches or mountains, are struggling.
I have a few additional items I'd throw along the lines of encouraging eugenic fertility and allowing people to protect their communities--specifically making one's state "the place to raise great American families". But I'm broadly agreement with his thrust--delivering better quality of life for your actual voters.
What are you up to, Jim? Something nefarious, no doubt. In the suburbs of NYC, where I moved to get my kids away from all the crime, everyone minds their business and barely acknowledges each other. The friendliest neighbors are always the ones who just moved here from the city. The soccer moms are all conservative and the rare liberal you meet keeps his mouth shut.
Globohomo means “global homogenization.” It’s not derived from the word homosexual. But the LGBTQ agenda is part of globohomo. Just wanted to clear that up.
It got me thinking and IIRC the assault occurred on the very block Zachy-boy lived on. There were always two patrol cars stationed at each end of the block, around the clock. So they were literally right there when it happened, new it was a drug deal gone bad and they were likely ordered to keep it quiet.
I saw him in a bistro letting his hair down once, and I get the sense he might like that.
Wouldn’t Bermuda’s, the Bahamas’, or the Caymans’ be even better? SBF thought so.
Most such 'innovative' businesses amount to little more than pandering to the vanity of urban affluence. All style, no substance.
You don't need homos to maintain good neighborhoods. Minus blacks, most neighborhoods can do pretty fine. Minus blacks, even many low-income neighborhoods are low-crime.
Also, it's not so much that homos make wealth but flock to areas with wealth.
Worst of all, no matter what homos contribute economically, their cultural agenda is corrupting and creates an empire of lies and degeneracy, from which BLM feeds on.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
Steve Sailer wrote a good article about this topic back in 2002.
https://vdare.com/articles/brookings-does-diversity-sort-of
“those of us who love Chicago”
Wrigleyville in the 1950s-1960s was lovable, except every apartment was swarming with roaches. If you want to know what’s going on there now, cwbchicago covers that beat. It’s been years since I’ve been there, and probably never will visit again.
Sounds like a good suburb that is definitely not named Westchester.
I was Chicago born and bred. The last 30 years we lived in the Western suburbs. Now we live in a small community some 30 miles Northwest of the Twin Cities in Minnesota. One son still lives in the Western burbs, the other one bought a home in the Madison, WI area.
Other than a couple of friends, there ain’t a whole lot about Illinois I miss. Never ending road construction, rapacious real estate taxes, wholesale government corruption, and cowboy cops aren’t missed. Not that it’s a utopia here. There’s a preponderance of self loathing White folks who have deeply imbibed the “woke” kool-aid. But folks are pretty friendly and polite. They get road projects done in a timely manner and under budget. I think we’ll stay.
Rahm ain’t so crazy about it either. That’s why his new gig is 10,000 mi. away. I’m just surprised that as a Chicago hater, you’re conflating it with Illinois, whose county sheriffs just told Fatzker to shove enforcement of his ridiculous new gun law. We here in the Bungalow Belt weren’t always crazy and mean. It’s the potholes in the spring and carjackings by 11-year-olds. The new Puerto Rican week in the wake of the Summer of George Floyd that has spontaneously appeared hasn’t helped lift the mood either.
It does confirm your point, but still the Chicago metro area controls much of the rest of the state against the latter's will. Things aren't quite so bad outside of the extremely Blue parts which include a few other cities, but this doesn't help for other state polices like taxation and the fiscal black hole which will consume everything absent a Federal bailout.Replies: @Eric Novak
Yes indeed, that he was buying weed has been confirmed by soon-to-be-retired Chicago cops in my immediate environment. Local media knows it. Funny that everyone in my neighborhood wishes Rahm were mayor again. He ran it like old man Daley in regards to law and order. Unlike old man Daley, he did everything he could to wreck the teachers’ union and close as many public schools as possible in order to send those kids to private charter schools.
So ironically, the reason a lot of people have a love of Chicago is for the exact opposite reasons. It's actually a fairly small big city, in fact only a few square acres bigger than LA's San Fernando Valley, to give some perspective. Chicago was always thought of as a working class city, the City of Big Shoulders, the Second City, etc., despite its financial district, and everything was close together but not cramped. You could get from the furthest south part of Mt Greenwood all the way to Roger's Park in a half hour with no traffic, most of El lines were fairly safe until Daley left office. You could walk from McCormick Place to Soldier Field to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and then the Shedd Aquarium Before crossing Lake Shore Drive and seeing Buckingham Fountain (think the intro to Married... with Children) , walk north through Grant Park or the South Loop portion of Michigan Ave (underrated from a historical PoV), see Millennium Park and or the Art Institute, all within the span of an afternoon. With a hundred local family run eateries to choose from. Then there's Navy Pier, Streeterville, the Mag Mile, River North, and Rush St, Old Town to the West or the Gold Coast further north. Greek town and Little Italy. The Chicago River and all of the surrounding architecture. Water Tower Place. All of the old churches contrasting with more modern buildings. Chicago was made up of countless small but distinct (European) cultural or historical locations.
Admittedly most if not all of those things have gone to complete shit because if the invasive negro, but for a long time there was something about Chicago to be proud of, and it had nothing to do with its global footprint or sphere of influence, etc.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hibernian, @JimDandy, @Eric Novak
Small? It’s 235 square mi. Driving from my house to the Indiana border to get to the Dunes, on main streets, would take 5 hours.
As far as it taking you 5 hours, have you tried the bike lane? I hear they are extremely practical.Replies: @Eric Novak
Why should there be any connection between where he lives and where he ‘works’ in this day and age? He is not laying bricks. He can place his bets from anywhere on earth either himself or ask an underling to push the right buttons.
The good parts of the city make up a small, convenient city. I don’t know what this “5 hours” business is you’re talking about, but I’ve never gone anywhere in the city that took anywhere near that long. But I guess if I took city sidewalks on a pogo stick it might.
The tranny hookers all hang out on North/Troop, near Exit. True, it’s not too far from cosmopolitan hipster Chicago.Replies: @JimDandy
The SFV is 260 square miles. Los Angeles is 470 square miles. So relatively speaking, yes, it’s a “small” big city.
As far as it taking you 5 hours, have you tried the bike lane? I hear they are extremely practical.
https://www.governing.com/now/why-the-old-north-states-have-been-economic-laggards?_amp=true
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/11/indiana-under-republican-rule-pro-business-policy-disappoints-outside-the-sunbelt/
By the standard of "don't be Illinois," Indiana is doing OK, i.e. it's not run by corrupt parasites. But that is a low bar. Judged by the standard of "is this governance actually working for the people," GOP states could be doing a a lot better, and all of the "Old North" states with cold winters, and no beaches or mountains, are struggling.Replies: @AnotherDad
Thanks much, Benjamin. That link was informative with good suggestions pointing in a better–the right–direction. I recommend it to others.
I have a few additional items I’d throw along the lines of encouraging eugenic fertility and allowing people to protect their communities–specifically making one’s state “the place to raise great American families”. But I’m broadly agreement with his thrust–delivering better quality of life for your actual voters.
Just means the job of that will fall to the state police and whomever else the central state government might task to do it.
It does confirm your point, but still the Chicago metro area controls much of the rest of the state against the latter’s will. Things aren’t quite so bad outside of the extremely Blue parts which include a few other cities, but this doesn’t help for other state polices like taxation and the fiscal black hole which will consume everything absent a Federal bailout.
It took twenty comments for anyone to mention "income taxes", and so far you're the only one.
Democrats and California can get away with imposing an abusive income tax burden, because of the weather and natural amenities of California. Essentially, they are like Saddam or those oil state Sheikhs--they've seized control of a geographic based asset and can live high on the hog as result.
But Chicago exists because it is where the railroads went around the lake. The natural trading midwestern agricultural commodities and manufacturing center (using Minnesota iron) of industrial products. But those advantages are much reduced in the modern economy and there is no real "lifestyle" reason--beyond the existing Chicago arts/entertainment amenities for why anyone need be there.
Illinois simply can not loot people the way California can. What does it offer in return that people can't find moving elsewhere? Nothing.Replies: @BenjaminL, @Anonymous
But hasn’t that been the case for the last 20 years? Why is Griffin moving now?
especially, forget activism, forget law, and forget lawyers. lawyers are poor and do what the money tells them to do. lawyers are unimpressive, mediocre second rate people who go with the flow. the money puts lawyers in their positions and instructs them on how it wants them to rule.
lawyers are assets and material like steel and soldiers. headquarters allocating them is how the battles are won. armies of lawyers themselves don't win anything on their own, they are directed into battles by money.
Peter Brimelow is still the most important guy in the dissident right and it's not a coincidence he was a finance guy. every Dissident Right starter pack should include a subscription to ZeroHedge or equivalent financial advice. your enemies trade stocks to make big money to crush you. you better learn how to respond.Replies: @Rusty Tailgate, @William Badwhite, @Justvisiting
Lots of great info there.
They walk you through the most important rule you need to know before investing your money:
Everybody is lying–about everything.
Zero Hedge shows you where a lot of the bodies are buried.
It does confirm your point, but still the Chicago metro area controls much of the rest of the state against the latter's will. Things aren't quite so bad outside of the extremely Blue parts which include a few other cities, but this doesn't help for other state polices like taxation and the fiscal black hole which will consume everything absent a Federal bailout.Replies: @Eric Novak
That the rest of Illinois did not vote for Pritzker does not prove your point.
As far as it taking you 5 hours, have you tried the bike lane? I hear they are extremely practical.Replies: @Eric Novak
No bike lane from ORD to Indiana. If one existed, it would be like Death Race 2000.
“Small, convenient city.”
The tranny hookers all hang out on North/Troop, near Exit. True, it’s not too far from cosmopolitan hipster Chicago.
OK, it's so bad Wikipedia has a "Crime in St. Louis" article! The statistics' historical coverage is very spotty, like the first table jumps from 1959 to 2003, but there's a "'Most Dangerous' ranking of St. Louis (1994–2012)" and for 1994-7 it's 2, 3, 3, 8, and the article mentions the methodology changed in that decade. But it was back up to 5, 5, then #3 in 2000. For a perhaps independent take, "In 2014, St Louis was ranked as the 19th most dangerous city in the world by the Mexican aid organization CCSP-JP (El Consejo Ciudadano para la Seguridad Publica y la Justicia Penal)."
Looking at Chicago mayors, Daley the son was from 1989-2011. Then (((Rahm Emanuel))) and now the disaster of a negro who looks a bit like a space alien. So you can see a proven short sighted management team not thinking things through. Or maybe they also saw hard Left Seattle going to hell, which it to a degree has.
Arlington, VA where they're now moving to is very diverse but the largest part of that is Hispanics who aren't a fraction as dangerous as negroes, and the north part of it is considered "safe." Was also vastly more gun and concealed carry tolerant in the 1990s/early part of this century than Chicago, though both were forced to allow the latter. Here's the 2020 Census breakdown, note a lot of those Asians will be Vietnamese who settled there after the end of the war, it's a great place to get a great bowl of phở.Replies: @Hibernian
St. Louis is more manageable than Chicago because it is smaller. They could have put the HQ far out in the exurbs rather than at Lambert Field next to the fighter plane production lines.
I'm guessing McConnell, Graham, Cornyn and Romney are already sold.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr61/BILLS-118hr61ih.pdfReplies: @AndrewR, @Corvinus
This is much needed legislation.
‘The Jungle’ by Upton Sinclair. Sinclair meant to expose working conditions and child labor exploitation in order to promote socialism. Instead he ended up giving us the Food and Drug Administration.
Do they speak English at the airport now? Felt like I was in Mexico except with curbs.
The tranny hookers all hang out on North/Troop, near Exit. True, it’s not too far from cosmopolitan hipster Chicago.Replies: @JimDandy
Yeah, they hang out there. And in the highest echelons of our government. And our military. And the ladies’ locker rooms at the YMCA. And at library story hours for children. And Obama’s bed. I could go on and on. Why are you picking on Chicago?
Then by all means, explain why passing another Patriot Act will actually help social discourse in this country. I am not all too sure secret courts are all that vital to our democracy.
Most miserable city that I ever visited. Johannesburg is more pleasant. Compton near my home feels safer. LA freeways are more friendly.
The Cosmopolitan news media of course blames guns, which they accuse Ken Griffin of supplying to criminals. (But IL has an FOID, as well as a Instant Check for gun shop purchasers!)