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I don’t know for sure that Palo Alto, CA, the home of the venture capital industry and next door to Stanford U., is really the highest IQ town in America. The highest test score public schools in America are in Lexington, MA, a suburb preferred by Boston area college professors. And I imagine tiny, rich municipalities like Atherton, CA might have higher average IQ residents than sprawling Palo Alto with its pretty middle class housing stock.
But still … the average home price in Palo Alto is $2.5 million, which is kind of a lot considering the average home is a nothing special ranch style house. Palo Alto houses average $1,471 per square foot, so a 3,000 square foot house would cost $4.4 million.
So if you took the average IQ of the people who live in Palo Alto and the people who work in Palo Alto, it would be awfully high.
Historically, that’s not a coincidence. As I pointed out in Taki’s Magazine in 2012, Palo Alto has been as central to the story of IQ science in America as it has been to the story of electronics in America. Just before WWI, Lee de Forrest invented an important version of the vacuum tube in Palo Alto, while Stanford professor Lewis Terman published America’s first major IQ test, the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scales in 1916.
As I wrote in my history of Silicon Valley’s ongoing obsession with intelligence:
In 1921, Terman began his landmark study of gifted children with IQs of 135 and above, which continues even today to track its dwindling band of aged subjects. (Ironically, the young William Shockley was nominated for inclusion in Lewis Terman’s study, but his test score fell just short of the cutoff.) To the public’s surprise, “Terman’s Termites” showed that highly intelligent children were not particularly likely to grow up to be misfits like the much publicized prodigy/bad example William James Sidis. Indeed, the higher the IQ, the better the outcome. Terman’s study was an early landmark in Nerd Liberation, one of the 20th century’s most important social developments.
Hewlett, Packard, F. Terman
Lewis’s son Fred Terman, dean of engineering at Stanford, pretty much invented the distinctive aspects of the Silicon Valley educational-industrial complex, such as by encouraging his students Hewlett & Packard to go into business for themselves.
The other main candidate for Father of Silicon Valley, William Shockley, was a good friend of Terman’s. During WWII, they’d been in charge of mirror image R&D projects for the military in terms of electronic warfare over Germany. Stanford missed out on the federal lucre during WWII, and Terman resolved for Stanford to be ready when the Cold War cranked up. (See Steve Blank’s lecture Hidden in Plain Sight: The Secret History of Silicon Valley for the fascinating back story.)
But Palo Alto wants to stay at the forefront of the growing fad for damnatio memoriae, by rewriting its history to eliminate the names of its now politically inappropriate founding fathers.
From Palo Alto Online:
School board majority supports renaming schools
One trustee worries renaming will distract from deeper issues
by Elena Kadvany / Palo Alto Weekly
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A majority of the school board agreed on Tuesday that two of the school district’s middle schools should be renamed in light of their namesakes’ leadership roles in the eugenics movement.
Recognizing an opposing view in the community — that to rename these schools would be to sever generations of alumni’s ties to tradition and history — most board members said that in a public school district in 2017, however, schools cannot carry the names of men who actively advocated for policies grounded in a belief that people of certain races and disabilities were inferior to others.
All five trustees said they support a majority recommendation from a district committee, convened last year to study and make recommendations on the renaming issue, to give David Starr Jordan Middle School a new name, and a majority said they also believe Terman Middle School should be renamed.
David Starr Jordan was the first president of Stanford U. He was an anti-imperialist who wrote a famous anti-war treatise pointing out that war was dysgenic: the morally best young men would get gunned down in vast numbers, while the sleazier would be more likely to avoid such a fate.
Terman’s fate is slightly more complicated given its naming history, trustees said Tuesday. Terman was first named after Lewis Terman, a prominent Stanford University psychologist, when the school opened in 1958. When the school later closed and then reopened in 2001, it was named to honor both Lewis and his son, Frederick, an accomplished Stanford electrical engineer. There is no clear evidence, committee members said Tuesday, that Frederick played an active role in or supported the eugenics movement, as Lewis did.
Eh … As I wrote in 2012 about Fred:
His son inherited Lewis’s biases: Fred Terman’s wife of 47 years, who had been one of his father’s grad students, said he only became serious about courting her after he went to the Psych Department and looked up her IQ score.
Back to the Palo Alto Weekly:
One committee member recommended retaining the Terman name, but making clear that it honors the son, not the father. A majority of the committee recommended against this, arguing that “retaining the surname will not effectively disconnect the school from Lewis and does not effectively disavow his eugenics legacy,” committee member and parent Sara Armstrong said Tuesday.
It’s almost as if the anti-eugenics witch-hunters believe that Fred Terman, the primary founder of Silicon Valley, inherited the sins of the father, IQ scientist Lewis Terman, via ideological Corruption of Blood.
Ofelia Prado said as a Mexican mother of a Jordan seventh-grader, it was “negative and shameful and degrading” to hear that her child’s school was named after a eugenicist. (In Jordan’s writings, he called Mexicans “ignorant, superstitious, with little self control and no conception of industry or thrift” and also wrote that “to say that one race is superior to another is merely to confirm the common observation of every intelligent citizen.”)
They should rename Jordan the Angelo Mozilo School, because at least Angelo didn’t believe the wrong things. Angelo put your money where his mouth was when it came to believing that Mexican were good bets to pay back their mortgages.
… Some board members said the estimated cost of renaming — about $200,000 to cover both schools — is a secondary consideration that would not stop them from voting in support. …
The board will vote on the renaming proposals at its next meeting on Tuesday, March 14. …
Many parents urged the board Tuesday night to seize the opportunity to take a visible stand for the values it so often cites: equality, diversity and inclusion.
After all, there’s nothing that screams equality, diversity, and inclusion than Palo Alto’s NIMBY policies that keep the average house selling for $2.5 million.
By the way, Stanford is running a project to make school district average test scores comparable across the country. As I pointed out in Taki’s Magazine last spring, the worst white-black test score gap in the country was found in violently liberal Berkeley, CA. The next four least equal school districts were Chapel Hill-Carrboro, NC; Shaker Heights, OH; Asheville, NC; and Evanston, IL.
Other liberal college towns with massive white-black gaps include Madison (U. of Wisconsin), Iowa City (U. of Iowa), Charlottesville (U. of Virginia), Austin (U. of Texas), Bernie Sanders’ Burlington (U. of Vermont), Durham (Duke U.), and Ann Arbor (U. of Michigan). Palo Alto, next door to Stanford U., the sponsor of this research project, also has an intense white-black gap, but not enough blacks can afford to live in Palo Alto for it to make my sample-size cutoff for reliability.
Now that’s what I call equality, diversity and inclusion!
By the way, I’m reminded of this conversation between Russ Roberts and Yale psychologist Paul Bloom:
I’ve met Pinker and Murray, and they really are noticeably smarter than I am.
Back in 2010 it occurred to me that I ought to write about a book explaining why it isn’t the end of the world that some people are smarter than other people. That would be my great contribution if I could explain why, just as it’s not a global crisis that all the medalists in the next Olympic men’s 100m dash will be black, the fact that some races tend to be smarter than others doesn’t mean we should dig up Hitler’s DNA and elect him President.
But, you’ll notice, I haven’t written that book yet.
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To make the Palo Alto data set more reliable, high rise affordable housing needs to built along University Avenue.
Someone needs to start a petition. I am sure the school board members will be the first to sign.
She has young techy families stopping by and leaving notes on her porch telling her they'll pay 2 million dollars CASH, sight unseen. And to have mercy because they're a family and need a place to stay, or some such.
I think she's in her late 50s or early 60s. Her husband owns a lot of shares in dividend paying REITs and stocks. So they're comfortable. I imagine a LOT of older people are considering selling out and moving down to San Diego and buying a ranch down there for a tenth the cost.....Replies: @Ivy
http://www.conservativecountry.net/politics/trump-hillary-swapped-genders-reenactment-debates-genders-switched-shocks-liberal-audience/
Given the collapse of California government finances, due largely to a pension crisis, the whole discussion has a Byzantine ‘how many angels can dance on the head of a pin’ sound to it.
I like the Angelo Mozilo idea as he did more than anyone else to make the current California possible.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh wait. That wasn’t supposed to be comedy?
Sorry, sorry everyone. Yes, I see my error, for Palo Alto Weekly has been near terminal with Humor Deprivation Disorder since I first read it in the early ’90s (twas just a weekly IIRC).
Yes, boys and girls–listen to this Wise Latina Madre: man’s reach should never exceed his grasp; that’s what’s consumerism’s for!!!!
Now here, little mestizo. You play cards and fight in the back of the classroom, and we’ll give you free college and a degree when you demand it.
Equality of outcomes for all! Kill the exceptional–they just make the rest of you look bad! Evolution is racist! Population genetics wears jackboots and klan hat! Backward is forward! Downward is upward! And always twirling, Twirling, TWIRLING toward freedom!!!!!
Go to Asia for some real idiocy. I get reports from friends who visit Taiwan, Thailand, Philippines etc. As you walk the streets the young people are on automatic, chattering away on their cell phones and smart phones while walking along. Much worse than here-USA. Non stop chatter by the girls and guys. Non stop texting too.
They are into their smart phones more than here and in all ways, such as boy meet girl apps for the shy and ones for the not that shy. OK we have this too but they do it to death and in Korea too. No reports from Nippon but prolly the same.I am right wing as anyone but have never liked hyped up consumerism which just fills a void...but usually does not succeed. I can't stand the LCD-LED laden displays dashboards of today's trucks and automobiles. I will admit I get a kick out of the way The Donald and Melania do it in their cluttered houses all full of expensive furniture and gilded bric a brac. I think half the reason they do this is because visitors and guests get a kick from looking around at the over the top decor. If I had the money to imitate anyone it would be the non-cluttered look of Frank Sinatra's Palm Springs house done in mid century modern. http://www.sinatrahouse.com/
“a belief that people of certain races and disabilities were inferior to others”
They can’t help themselves, can they? Maybe one race isn’t superior or inferior to another. But don’t disabilities make you inferior, at least with respect to the ability in question, by definition? I mean, isn’t that what “disability” means?
By the way, what’s “eugenics,” really? If I don’t want my daughter marrying a retard, like all normal people, am I a eugenicist? How about if I encourage expectant parents to screen for Downs Syndrome, with a view towards aborting the baby if it should be defective? How about if I simply want to allow women who’d rather not be mothers to abort, on the grounds that they’d produce shiftless offspring? Or if I want to discourage runaway breeding in Africa, for instance?
Who isn’t a eugenicist, when you come down to what it’s really about? Crazy people, liars, the willfully ignorant, and stupids.
"In ableist societies, able-bodiedness is viewed as the norm; people with disabilities are understood as those that deviate from that norm. Disability is seen as something to overcome or to fix, for example, through medical intervention. The ableist worldview holds that disability is an error or a failing rather than a consequence of human diversity, akin to race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender." (Wikipedia)Replies: @guest
That final list, along with Palo Alto and Lexington, is a Who’s Who of white liberal guilt and diversity hypocrisy. Madison, Iowa City, Austin, check, check, check. Boulder CO missing probably because they don’t really allow black people in the city limits (dirty little Boulder secret).
The de Forest story is far more interesting than he “invented an important version of the vacuum tube in Palo Alto ….” His last of four wives, Marie Mosquini, was a very much younger film star of the teens and twenties, and quite a looker. I met a much older version of her at while sitting on a bench waiting to be called into an event, and when she found out I was into radio she introduced herself as Lee de Forest’s wife and asked if I had her of him, which of course I had. Turns out she had even become a ham radio operator herself a few years after his death.
Even though De Forest, as the self styled “Father of Radio” and perennial adversary of Marconi, was in some ways a larger than life character, she was probably the bigger star of the two, but she dropped it all when she married him, so I guess the feminists will insist on supressing the memory of de Forest for having robbed her of her career.
Speaking of eugenists, when will the left pillory Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood and their vicious programmes of eugenics through birth control measures including abortion? Yeah, crickets … the holy sacrament trumps race.
Someone needs to start a petition. I am sure the school board members will be the first to sign.Replies: @fitzGetty, @phil, @Cloudswrest, @Neoconned
… and that proposed vast new Google tent building needs to be relocated to a poverty stricken Alabama neighbourhood …
I like the Angelo Mozilo idea as he did more than anyone else to make the current California possible.Replies: @fitzGetty
… let’s fiddle while Rome burns (literally) … ironically that’s not very clever … where has the survival instinct gone … ? .
Truly, we we have entered a dark age, during which time science and simple truths are scorned in favor of popular delusions.
From the Bill of Wrongs, under which we now live:
Amendment VII
In suits at “disparate impact,” where the concept in controversy shall be the universal sameness of tabula rasa humans and their necessarily equal outcomes, the requirement of trial by public opinion shall be preserved, and no fact tried by the public and the Corporate Press shall be otherwise reexamined.
Ultimately, we'll have to give up western civilization so as not to hurt women's precious feelings.
So sad, as The Donald would say.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Stanford has been a centre for the study and propagation of so many of the nasty ideas that got us into our current mess, so I don’t really feel too bad when I read some of their own civilizational solvent is splashing back on them. Their “persuasive technology labs” have been beavering away to, bit by bit, trying to nudge us “human resources” further into globalism.
Stanford pumps out grinning cretins like Ambassador McFaul to scold and taunt Russia because it “just doesn’t get it”. Now their mendacious happy talk is coming to bite them on the ass on the home front. The Lie Magic was supposed to be used on other people, not the managerial elite, not on the children of the technocrats. Oh well.
If you go to Lewis Terman’s Wikipedia page, in the section on “Support for Eugenics” the passage used to “discredit” him is from a Psychology Today article. In addition to the paragraph quoted in Wikipedia it says, among other things (regarding his longitudinal IQ study, started in 1921).
“Lewis Terman was a man of his less-than-enlightened time. He believed in eugenics, and his research project was called “Genetic Studies of Genius.” He naively assumed that his high IQ kids (nearly all white) would become the future leaders of science, industry, and politics. His inclusion of girls was an important exception to the biases of the era, since women had only just gotten the right to vote, and had few career options.”
What’s this “naively” bit? Was Terman wrong? Did his IQ white kids not become the future leaders of science, industry and politics? Because that space looks pretty white and male to me. The article goes on to say:
However, Terman was above all a scientist; and he was dedicated to collecting meaningful data, and to accepting what the data showed even when it contradicted his beliefs. Thus, he acknowledged the finding that many of the “genius” children wound up in menial jobs; and it appears that the participants as a whole did no better than others from similar social class backgrounds. In other words, there is a lot more to making it—including hard work, luck, social contacts, good health, and social skills—than being academically gifted.
“Many” sounds like a weasel word to me. I would be extremely surprised if the study did not show a strong correlation between IQ and future achievement.
Over 86% of the men were in professional and managerial occupations,
10.6% in retail, clerical and skilled trades (about the same as college graduates of the time in general; Terman's college grads were 4.3% in this catetgory),
0.3% were temporarily unemployed,
1.2% in semiskilled labor, the other categories were not evidence of failure.
Only about 5 of the ~800 men could be considered failures, usually due to alcoholism.The most common occupations were: executives (16.2%), lawyers (10.3%), professors(7.5%), engineers (7.3%), doctors (5.3%). There is a great deal more information in the book on the careers of the Termites, including on several men who took unusual paths.You might find R.N. Seitz's analysis The Termites Grown Tall interesting, though as he was an an officer of the 1 in 1,000,000 IQ society, it is a bit confusing.
In this day and age,…IQ tests sort Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers into canon fodder for the Military Industrial Complex and for Greater Israel….get rid of IQ tests…
If IQ tests were eliminated, what would stop the Military Industrial Complex and Greater Israel from sorting Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers into canon fodder anyway?Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
I would have to question the intelligence of anybody paying that much for a ranch house.
It's not what's there. It's what isn't there. Overpriced ranch house means virtually no minorities living near you, unless prequalified by income, or your children's schools. Think of it as the price you pay to enjoy a "gentleman's segregation plan."
Palo Alto? Where do I sign?
There are lots of high paying jobs near Palo Alto and if you get one of those dream jobs you will pay through the nose for housing.
Lee DeForest was Larry “Bud” Melman’s uncle.
Harrison Bergeron should be the new school name for both of them…….
H.L. Mencken once wrote a essay on this subject and gave good evidence why the opposite was true.
They generally ignore beauty, energy, dominance, empathy, sociality, confidence and many other qualities that humans, especially women, use to decide who they'd like to breed with.
It is to some HBD nerds what Steve's maxim on feminism is to female journalists: 'Hey, you Chads, let us decide what's eugenic so we can have a shot at the pretty girls.'
Lewis Terman’s son, Stanford U. provost Fred Terman, was likely the single most important figure in the history of Silicon Valley.
home run (or, hole in one if you prefer) again.
Palo Alto is just about the most likely place on earth these days where one will see the head of a SJW almost literlly explode like that scene in the movie "Scanners" from cognitive dissonance.
People in a town that overwhelmingly supports sanctuary for illegal immigrants and opposes school choice (bumper stickers with "Nobody Is Illegal" - in Spanish, no less are common) who have their OWN PRIVATE PARK that refuses entry to anyone who cannot prove he is a Palo Alto resident. Try getting into Foothills Park for some "undocumented recreation."
It's funny that Shallow Alto is debating stripping the name of Terman from a school, when just last year, the State of California appproved naming a mile-long stretch of the Bayshore Freeway (Highway 101) running through Palo Alto as the "Frederick Terman Memorial Highway."
A blockade of Priuses is expected at the Embarcadero Road on-ramp any day.
Terman, Shockley, Starr-Jordan, and more recently (and obviously to a lesser degree, TJ Rodgers). All of these guys will eventually be scrubbed, I reckon. It would not shock me at all to open the San Jose Mercury News and "discover" that the genius at Intel was not Andy Grove, but in a scene straight out of "Goodwill Hunting," that Moore's Law was really written on a chalkboard in the break room by an undocumented. single mother struggling to raise her family in East Palo Alto as a custodian.
Seriously though - there is a great recapitulation of the early days of the Valley in Tom Wolfe's book Hooking UpReplies: @res, @zanon
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… and it’s no global problem, that a) races exist and b) that some are faster than others, I’m now inclined to add.
Plus the Hitler memory. The shortest version of it that I know: Hitler was more about greed and inner rage and turmoil, than he was about eugenics.
(There will sometime be somebody, who gets this Hitler-story told in terms of what really made Hitler and what just happened to happen at the same time).
(My guess is, that this person would work with the insights of Paul Collier and the socio-psychologist Putnam about social pressure and cultural diversity. Then he/ she would tell the history of eugenics and point out: That the idea of eugenics was an inherent part of modernity and for sure did not cause the attempt, to kill all the Jews in the world. – Because – as I said: The concept of eugenics was an integral part of western modernity – but nobody else of those into eugenics in England, Sweden, California etc. did care the least bit about killing all Jews – some of those into eugenics in Germnay did so, 1941 ff – that’s true, but that’s not the whole story of eugenics, it’s rather a part of it).
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I wwould really love it, if you wrote something about HBD and why this topic is not the end of the world, really, in your forthcoming book.
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For that, I wish you lots of good look – what I’ve read here in the last 11 months was – the best in Journalism anywhere. I found your work very interesting. I could imagine though, that it is quite some task, to find a form for all your scetches of the American pleasures – – and pains. Just leave a lot out, I’d propose.
The science of eugenics can greatly benefit the human race if used properly - it merely follows the basic laws of nature.
Anti-eugenics dorks always bring up Hitler's name because they know it will create an emotional reaction.Replies: @Santoculto
If the people who most fetishize intelligence are the people who are peddling the mentality that intelligence doesn’t exist, then the hypocrisy must be to them a feature, not a bug.
There’s no alternative. There’s no place significantly cheaper in silicon valley.
At that price, you aren’t paying for the house, you’re paying for the neighbors
do they think changing a school’s name makes kids smarter?
…they probably think vouchers can make kids smarter, too.
Most of the members of the Palo Alto School Board are all products of what is, in effect, eugenics.
They’re not paying that much for a ranch house. With some exceptions, when people buy a house, they’re not paying for the house. They’re paying for the privilege of living amongst a certain group of neighbors.
Lots of Silicon Valley workers live in Tracy and Modesto etc. But a 150 mile round trip commute costs an enormous amount just in gas and minor maintainence plus it means a new car every 5 or 6 years. Gilroy and other towns have much much cheaper housing costs but it means your children will go to school with Mexican gangsters and 15 year old welfare Moms.
Some have speculated that the Silicon Valley suburbs will expand east all the way to the mountains and the San Juaquin valley farms will cease to exist. It might be for the best because although agriculture is still our greatest industry the farm workers have destroyed the state. Since most are Anerican born, there is no way of getting rid of them. Some will be generation after generation of criminals and welfare families. Some will be generation after generation of prison guards, police and welfare workers keeping them somewhat under control.
Big Chuck Murray retweeted your tweet touting this post.
Also (finally) taking on the root of the problem – those who’ve defamed him and his research – by name.
This another sign that the Left is accepting IQ as a largely heritable trait, and this effort to suppress the history of cognitive testing is a sign of how scared they are of that awareness becoming the norm. Terman’s legacy would be that of a harmless crackpot if he wasn’t on to something. If IQ, temperament, and future-time orientation are baked into newly formed zygote, their entire house cards falls. They are running scared if they feel the need to delegitimize Turman.
Leftism is based on Nurture being the ultimate factor in human outcomes. Once that crumbles, people will realize the futility of state/social engineering solutions to inborn deficiencies. By the 22nd century, genetics and brain research will confirm what was known in the 19th century, so hopefully the consensus in the West will be for government to create the best circumstances for the cognitive deficients to maximize their skill set instead of trying fruitlessly to transform them into something they can never become.
Someone needs to start a petition. I am sure the school board members will be the first to sign.Replies: @fitzGetty, @phil, @Cloudswrest, @Neoconned
There already exists lower-income housing in Palo Alto, and builders may have to set aside units for lower-income families. The children then attend Palo Alto schools. So almost everyone attends Palo Alto district schools, but there is a big range of test scores. Yet, in other contexts, community leaders can be heard saying that certain people in other communities score poorly because they do not have good schools! Almost no one wants to say, as Robert Weissberg put it: “Bad Students, Not Bad Schools.”
It is indeed a weasel word. High IQ was far from a 100% correlation with better life outcomes, but it was indeed correlated with more success. There were some notable and odd exceptions, like a high IQ girl that dropped out, became a call girl, and entertained her clients while reciting equations backwards; but we should also note that it didn’t mean that she wasn’t making good money or having a successful life outcome for herself, simply that it wasn’t a morally approved method at the time.
Where is this happening? Do you mean strictly within the military itself? Because everywhere outside of it, IQ tests are actually illegal in employment, as per Supreme Court diktat, and clearly out of fashion in determining educational tracking.
I wonder how they get away with it.Replies: @Steve Sailer
There is at least one large relatively central complex on the Stanford campus named after (unspecified) Terman. I wonder how long that will last.
Regarding Ofelia popping up for a pointless pullquote, I suspect media has a go-to list of Professional Soreheads to contact. After all, whiney bullshit is necessary to pull at guilty heartstrings of blinkered Goodwhites – and get the job done of retconning out every speck of white in our history. In a few years, we’ll have an ass-backwards version of Stanford-Binet, engineered to drop whites farther left in the Bell Curve. “You don’t know fry bread is proper recipe for flat enchiladas? Stupido, gringo!”
Of course, there still won’t exist a Mexican space program…
“Ignorant, superstitious, with little self control and no conception of industry or thrift.” …That’s about it for the CV, right there.
Sorry, Fred Reed. Maybe time for another cause to gas-bag?
This is just another example of the “change” faction’s beliefs. They just don’t like history, period. The past is an opprobrium to them, so why not make it their plaything, just like they “manifest whole worlds” virtually?
I can’t stress enough the intellectual and cultural break that’s really going on here. A couple of European writers I read in the 80’s addressed it well: there can’t be history where everything is simulation, and that’s what these people are all about. Tearing down statues, erasing names- it’s beyond replacing the legacy culture. These people’s descendants will do it to them, too. You can’t be an eternal child otherwise.
From the Bill of Wrongs, under which we now live:
Amendment VII
In suits at “disparate impact,” where the concept in controversy shall be the universal sameness of tabula rasa humans and their necessarily equal outcomes, the requirement of trial by public opinion shall be preserved, and no fact tried by the public and the Corporate Press shall be otherwise reexamined.Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar
Indeed, it’s become nearly impossible to discuss anything without hurting someone’s feelz. If you take notice, it’s women driving most of this nonsense.
Ultimately, we’ll have to give up western civilization so as not to hurt women’s precious feelings.
So sad, as The Donald would say.
- Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness
Do all humans have a deep need to destroy the monuments of past civilizations? If Charles Mann’s book 1491 is to believed the ancients in the Americas obliterated and buried the previous iterations of civilization. The ancients around the Mediterranean are famous for their defacement of monuments of defeated enemies. Did the Chinese do this too? This reminds me of that bit from Orwell that Steve posted a few weeks back about how good it feels to smash the faces of your political enemies until they are strawberry jam.
Are we at Peak Intelligence? Maybe we’re at Peak Emotion. When was Peak Character? When was Peak Brawn?
As far as these SJ warriors go in Palo Alto go…
I see a severe lack of gratitude to those who came before them. Who did the genius hard work so that today’s residents of Palo Alto can live nice comfy lives full of virtue signalling…. “The hypnotized never lie”
To the Termans, father and son, I say bravo! You elevated America and the world. To today’s kkkonformist ingrates I say FOAD, I am tired of you and your shtick.
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Right-Wing Rockin’: The Hypnotized Never Lie |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/rightwing-rockin-the-hypn_b_21730.html
Updated May 25, 2011
Right-Wing Rockin’: The Hypnotized Never Lie
By Richard (RJ) Eskow
All the kids are talkin’ about the National Review’s new list of “the 50 greatest conservative rock songs of all time.” Heh, heh. It looks like the righties are assuring us that they’re ‘hep.’ You can almost hear the squeak of pencil protectors against Ban-Lon as they insist: Yes, sirree, we’re down with what the young people are doing. Just because we’re pro-war business tools in thrall to religious extremists, that doesn’t mean we don’t know our ‘beat groups’ and ‘rhythm combos.’ We read Teen Beat too, you know! And conservatism can be fun.
BTW: When I drove a San Francisco taxi in the early ’90s, the last place any cabbie wanted to drop was East Palo Alto. I took passengers, mostly from SFO, to every ghetto in the Bay Area – Hunters’ Point to Richmond, Ingleside to Oakland’s delicious Cypress neighborhood. But of all, East Pally was THE worst. One street in, one out; almost all the rest of the paved pen enclosed by freeways, train tracks, creek beds, and canals. Originally, it was an old-fashioned “n-town” for “the help”. By late-20th century, it was wall-to-wall welfare junkies and gangbangers, slightly less safe than Mosul or Aleppo. Palo Alto residents always have been sanctimonious professors, utterly convinced of their moral omniscience. But housekeepers and ditch-diggers better be heading east by suppertime.
OT, but Jorge Ramos was on Tucker Carlson’s show, and went into his usual rant:
But then Carlson countered:
At which point, Ramos claimed that being Latino had nothing to do with ancestry and only to do with coming from someplace where Spanish is spoken. He seemed pretty flustered.
https://www.infowars.com/jorge-ramos-whites-will-become-a-minority-this-is-our-country/
"Latino" has everything to do with ancestry and nothing to do with someone speaking Spanish. The debate now among the PC is of "Latino" (which is in favour amongst the PC for being more "inclusive") vs. "Hispanic," (which is quickly fading because it is seen as too reductive).
A Hispanic person is someone who speaks Spanish. This could be someone from Mexico, the Dominican Republic, or Madrid.
Latino, as I understand it, means someone originating from Latin America.Replies: @Alden
But it's not a problem, because by the magic of "extend the current trend", the DOW will be around 1,250,000 and "unemployment" will be -135% (the national debt will have reached a number that humans are unable to visualize, everyone will continue to ignore it, just like now!)
The key is a society in which everybody who works hard and plays be the rules can reasonably look forward to a good life. The book should be about how to build such a society.
At the end of the day it is an empirical question and the reality seems to vary. For two fairly opposite examples consider WW1 era Britain and Vietnam era US.
This, and the quote about academics and their attitudes, really does raise an interesting point.
Why are academics (and journalists) so deeply disturbed by the possibility that the minorities they champion might have lower IQs?
Because they, likely more than any other social class, see lower IQs as the certain index of complete worthlessness in an individual or group.
Nobody else really believes this. Virtually everybody outside of academics have a very real appreciation of attributes in human beings that are not captured by IQ. Finding out that you, or someone you love or like or look up to, isn’t particularly high IQ, is just no big deal; that’s just you and your social circle.
Academics and journalists have no such broader view. Their reaction formation–it is strong.
The Bell Curve is their wooden stake and kryptonite.
The idea of social conformity as a means of social domination is powerful, and one that appeals to women. Muslim domination is through male-means; violence and the credible threat of violence. Its why Muslim society is a failure — too tilted to exclusively male domination to the point of high culture equaling what a goat herder finds amusing; and preventing any concentration of high IQ people to advance technology which is the ultimate “killer app.”
In the West we have the opposite problem. The remake on NBC of the Wizard of Oz (“Emerald City”) was explicitly anti-science and pro-magic/feminism which was equated to be the same thing. Part Game of Thrones and part SJW lecture with low-rent Wiccanism, it exposed the true debased nature of Western elites as ultra-feminized and decadent. If you take the limited series as what elites actually believe you get:
*Science == evil, because its White Male dominated.
*Women == always good, White male always bad, save hunky ones.
*Magic > Science, because its all women, see above.
*Young hot women should steal older hot and powerful women’s husbands because pointless drama (no really, that’s a major “romantic” subplot shades of Bill/Hillary/Monica).
*Everyone should be ruled by some random Black person, bonus points if they are transgender (no I’m not kidding on that one either).
That’s to my mind an accurate summary of what elites ACTUALLY believe. Its bankrupt and nuts and not even within nodding acquaintance of reality much less path to power through ever better and more powerful technology. While Russia and China are deeply flawed societies, they don’t have our rotten elites who literally believe in magic. Technology kills while magic is the equivalent of a Souix Ghost Dance.
Steve –
home run (or, hole in one if you prefer) again.
Palo Alto is just about the most likely place on earth these days where one will see the head of a SJW almost literlly explode like that scene in the movie “Scanners” from cognitive dissonance.
People in a town that overwhelmingly supports sanctuary for illegal immigrants and opposes school choice (bumper stickers with “Nobody Is Illegal” – in Spanish, no less are common) who have their OWN PRIVATE PARK that refuses entry to anyone who cannot prove he is a Palo Alto resident. Try getting into Foothills Park for some “undocumented recreation.”
It’s funny that Shallow Alto is debating stripping the name of Terman from a school, when just last year, the State of California appproved naming a mile-long stretch of the Bayshore Freeway (Highway 101) running through Palo Alto as the “Frederick Terman Memorial Highway.”
A blockade of Priuses is expected at the Embarcadero Road on-ramp any day.
Terman, Shockley, Starr-Jordan, and more recently (and obviously to a lesser degree, TJ Rodgers). All of these guys will eventually be scrubbed, I reckon. It would not shock me at all to open the San Jose Mercury News and “discover” that the genius at Intel was not Andy Grove, but in a scene straight out of “Goodwill Hunting,” that Moore’s Law was really written on a chalkboard in the break room by an undocumented. single mother struggling to raise her family in East Palo Alto as a custodian.
Seriously though – there is a great recapitulation of the early days of the Valley in Tom Wolfe’s book Hooking Up
The "private park" lets residents take in guests who may not be residents.
Huge loophole. Should be 100% residents only (and ideally, homeowning residents, not renters)Replies: @Jacobite
“Speaking of eugenists, when will the left pillory Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood and their vicious programmes of eugenics through birth control measures including abortion? Yeah, crickets … the holy sacrament trumps race.”
http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/topics_fs.pl?theme=42&search=&matches=
Margaret Sanger and leaders of the birth control movement, predominantly women, believed that people should be empowered, by education, to make choices to limit their own reproduction. In a society that frowned on open discussion of sexuality and where physicians knew little about the biology of reproduction, Sanger advocated that mothers be given access to the scientific information needed to thoughtfully plan conception.
Davenport and other eugenic leaders, predominantly men, believed that the state should be empowered, by statute, to control reproduction by whole classes of people they deemed genetically inferior. Eugenicists focused on segregating the “feebly inherited” in mental institutions, ultimately seeking the legal remedy of compulsory sterilization. (They also employed immigration restriction to limit the growth of certain population groups.)
Here are some quotes from Margaret Sanger:-Speech quoted in "Birth Control: What It Is, How It Works, What It Will Do." The Proceedings of the First American Birth Control Conference. Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review, Gothic Press, pages 172 and 174. -- "Apostle of Birth Control Sees Cause Gaining Here", The New York Times, 1923-04-08, p. XII.-- "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda", October 1921, page 5.
https://www.infowars.com/jorge-ramos-whites-will-become-a-minority-this-is-our-country/Replies: @DWB, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Neil Templeton
It seems to me that Senor Ramos is not up to date on his terms of intersectionality. According to the current lexicon, he has it backwards.
“Latino” has everything to do with ancestry and nothing to do with someone speaking Spanish. The debate now among the PC is of “Latino” (which is in favour amongst the PC for being more “inclusive”) vs. “Hispanic,” (which is quickly fading because it is seen as too reductive).
A Hispanic person is someone who speaks Spanish. This could be someone from Mexico, the Dominican Republic, or Madrid.
Latino, as I understand it, means someone originating from Latin America.
The terms Latino (male) Latina (female) Latino (for the entire group men women and children) are now verboten.
The term is now Latinx because to use o or a is gender specific and discriminatory against the transgender community
We must keep up with the latest terminology!!!!!!Replies: @Santoculto
I know that feel, bro.
Very true. But being mistaken about this goes hand-in-hand with, as you say, Nerd Liberation. When comparative advantage and institutional incentives lead you to define yourself around being smarter than most people (not an uncommon story among today’s managerial elite), it really is the end of your world when you finally meet someone smarter than you.
The Law of Mental ConservationReplies: @phil
Why are academics (and journalists) so deeply disturbed by the possibility that the minorities they champion might have lower IQs?
Because they, likely more than any other social class, see lower IQs as the certain index of complete worthlessness in an individual or group.
Nobody else really believes this. Virtually everybody outside of academics have a very real appreciation of attributes in human beings that are not captured by IQ. Finding out that you, or someone you love or like or look up to, isn't particularly high IQ, is just no big deal; that's just you and your social circle.
Academics and journalists have no such broader view. Their reaction formation--it is strong.
The Bell Curve is their wooden stake and kryptonite.Replies: @OutWest
If I had to chose one of an extremely high IQ or outstanding talents, Id probably go with the latter.
You’ve said this before, and it’s a pretty hilarious line, but isn’t this exactly what America just did?
How do people who believe in abortion on demand for any reason or no reason at all get to bleat about eugenics?
You can have eugenics without abortion but you can’t have abortion without entailing eugenics (or dysgenics).
Hypocrisy, stupidity.
I bet all those Middlebury media-zombies are easy to hypnotize.
Two corrections for clarity’s sake:
… also wrote that “to say that one race is superior to another is merely to confirm the common observation of every intelligent citizen.
“…also wrote that ‘to say that one race is superior to another is merely to deny the common observation of every intelligent citizen.’”
and
Many parents urged the board Tuesday night to seize the opportunity to take a visible stand for the values it so often cites: equality, diversity, and inclusion.
“Many parents urged the board Tuesday night to seize the opportunity to take a visible stand for the values it so often cites: equality, diversity, stupidity and inclusion.”
Worth noting that the majority of schoolchildren in Palo Alto are now Chinese.
And…some strong results, from economists — certified elite university establishment economists no less — about affordable family formation:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/03/manufacturing-marriage-family/518280/
Palo Alto High: White 50%, Asian 29%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5617-Palo-Alto-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Gunn High School: White: 44%, Asian 39%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Terman Middle School: White 38%, Asian 38%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Jordan Middle School: White 53%, Asian 28%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5614-David-Starr-Jordan-Middle-School/#Race_ethnicity
Stanford Middle School: White 41%, Asian 41%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5619-Jane-Lathrop-Stanford-Middle-School/
A similar pattern exists in the elementary schools. Not only are Asians not predominant in Palo Alto Schools, they are not a majority in ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL in the city.
Now, Cupertino, OTOH...Replies: @Olorin, @International Jew
Funny, I look at Palo Alto (and Silicon Valley) and see it as a hotbed of eugenics today.
Not in an Auschwitzy, negative-eugenics way, but in the sense that they’re crazy about assisted reproductive technology. I had never met so many parents who did IVF, who obsessed over pregnancy testing and genetic screening, and so on.
(Then once the baby is born, it’s all about getting into the right preschool and associating with the right mommy group, circle of friends, cello lessons, and so on.)
I see this both in native Whites and in Asian immigrants. Back home in China/India, of course, the eugenics is even more blatant and a lot less positive.
And...some strong results, from economists -- certified elite university establishment economists no less -- about affordable family formation:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/03/manufacturing-marriage-family/518280/Replies: @DWB, @Coemgen
I think your comment about the ethnic makeup of Palo Alto schools is false:
Palo Alto High: White 50%, Asian 29%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5617-Palo-Alto-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Gunn High School: White: 44%, Asian 39%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Terman Middle School: White 38%, Asian 38%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Jordan Middle School: White 53%, Asian 28%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5614-David-Starr-Jordan-Middle-School/#Race_ethnicity
Stanford Middle School: White 41%, Asian 41%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5619-Jane-Lathrop-Stanford-Middle-School/
A similar pattern exists in the elementary schools. Not only are Asians not predominant in Palo Alto Schools, they are not a majority in ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL in the city.
Now, Cupertino, OTOH…
Even when it comes to passive eugenics/dysgenics, let alone active, the whole debate is ruined by that fact that it occurs largely between high-IQ nerds who imagine that IQ is 99% of what makes a human, or group of humans, eu- or dys-anything.
They generally ignore beauty, energy, dominance, empathy, sociality, confidence and many other qualities that humans, especially women, use to decide who they’d like to breed with.
It is to some HBD nerds what Steve’s maxim on feminism is to female journalists: ‘Hey, you Chads, let us decide what’s eugenic so we can have a shot at the pretty girls.’
You can have eugenics without abortion but you can't have abortion without entailing eugenics (or dysgenics).
Hypocrisy, stupidity.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @anon, @Bill Jones
One of the major strengths of liberals, I’ve noticed, is that they lack much of a revulsion toward hypocrisy. There may even be a genetic reason for this, but in short, its really only conservatives that obsess as much as we do on being consistent. And we project this need upon liberals, who barely feel it.
Hypocrisy is no longer an operative concept to the post-foundationalist, since they have no principles to which they could conceivably be untrue, not that truth is an operative concept either.
This of course is completely unworkable on a practical level, so they just make up whatever random shit they want to. But no, not a strength.Replies: @guest
You should! Then we’d all know the title of your last published book when the trivia question arises in 15 or 20 years’ time.
One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!
Silicon Gulch
Silicon Prairie
Silicon Hill
Silicon Valley
You better wake up
It’s late
It’s late
It’s late
Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne
Someone needs to start a petition. I am sure the school board members will be the first to sign.Replies: @fitzGetty, @phil, @Cloudswrest, @Neoconned
And how about all that vast open space along Palm Drive. There’s plenty of space for the homeless. Who cares about the Rodin sculpture garden? Though it’s on the campus and not technically part of Palo Alto, I don’t think anybody would notice.
While attending my “public ivy” university, I dated two “high IQ girl” students who were working in that industry. One was a private stripper, and the other was “an escort.”
The “private dancer” now owns a real estate company; she made a down payment on her first home with her stripper money while we were still students. The “escort” now manages a restaurant in a large city, where she too owns a fine home.
I’d say those “girls” knew what they were doing. IQ was indeed a factor in their success.
Blocking eugenics means high IQ populations retain their advantage, while actively promoting dysgenics among others increases their advantage.
Using this as the basis for a “you’re just being selfish” argument won’t work on all the anti-genetics people but should work on the “minister’s daughter” kind of SJW…
cos it’s true (if only subconsciously on their part).
You can have eugenics without abortion but you can't have abortion without entailing eugenics (or dysgenics).
Hypocrisy, stupidity.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @anon, @Bill Jones
The leaders are evil; the sheep are sheep (aka easily suggestible).
I bet all those Middlebury media-zombies are easy to hypnotize.
Bay Area anecdotes from public information, plus personal and family experience:
https://books.google.com/books?id=6e4cDvhrKhgC&lpg=PR1&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false
In 1967, White Working Class machinist Paul Jobs could pay $21000 (i.e. $153K today) for a house in a nice Palo Alto-adjacent town to keep his junior high son Steve from being bullied by “ethnic [Mexican] gangs” in the town next door.
In 1978, a similar house could be purchased by a Hewlett-Packard engineer with a master’s degree and a stay-at-home wife for $90K (i.e. $336K today).
In 2014, a completely typical homebuyer in the same neighborhood was: husband with MBA/MD, venture capitalist in medical technology; wife with MD, physician at local hospital (for the second income)
Actually you have.
But the editors off the main scriptorium and the monks in the bindery haven’t yet contributed their bibliogenic parts.
Anyway, books are so Last Millennium.
It’s not really a strength, anymore than conservative obsession is.
Hypocrisy is no longer an operative concept to the post-foundationalist, since they have no principles to which they could conceivably be untrue, not that truth is an operative concept either.
This of course is completely unworkable on a practical level, so they just make up whatever random shit they want to. But no, not a strength.
Possibly – but it doesn’t suggest that there isn’t some clear instability in certain individuals, though, despite life successes on certain metrics. My brother is off the charts in the genius category, close to 160(though anything past 130, imo, is unreliable); however, as he matured, he clearly began to show increasing symptoms of Asperger’s Syndrome.
His actions remain largely spastic to this day – he’s made and lost several fortunes, becomes continually obsessed with random fads, and is incapable of maintaining connections enough to have a family. Despite being a supposed genius, he had difficulties remembering to put away cans he had consumed, resulting in an office space that gradually accumulated quantities of rotting junk.
At the rate this is going, my much more modest 124 IQ self will probably have made more than he has, simply through steady and slow accumulation, investment and networking.
Maybe it was all that pot at Jordan.
An IQ in that "unreliable" range to which you refer (and childhood in high IQ locales) is no protection against things like severe, debilitating OCD. You might just end up going to a "public" Ivy and dating strippers.
IQ is just one factor in life's equation. We all know that.
And...some strong results, from economists -- certified elite university establishment economists no less -- about affordable family formation:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/03/manufacturing-marriage-family/518280/Replies: @DWB, @Coemgen
37.2% of students in Lexington public schools are asian.
When I went to Jordan it was common knowledge that all the stoners were at Terman.
Later I met a kid from Terman and he asked me about all the stoners at Jordan.
I haven’t heard recently about that survey of immigrant tech startups in California that was done a few years ago.
The one that showed no Mexican startups but loads of Chinese and Indian startups
Was that a one time thing?
My brother scored much higher than your brother, but seems to have settled down nicely.
Maybe it was all that pot at Jordan.
I grew up in a town without much diversity, and religion and ethnicity were not discussed that much. Then I went to a college with a large number of students from NYC and Long Island (actually the tri-state area – NY, NJ & CT), and people from those areas seemed almost obsessed with religion and ethnicity. They seemed to love to discuss or speculate on the religion and ethnicity of fellow students. Among these people, I was pointedly asked a fair number of times what my religion was. I’d never seen anything like it before.
That book was written more than a century ago. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs….
“I would have to question the intelligence of anybody paying that much for a ranch house.”
It’s not what’s there. It’s what isn’t there. Overpriced ranch house means virtually no minorities living near you, unless prequalified by income, or your children’s schools. Think of it as the price you pay to enjoy a “gentleman’s segregation plan.”
Remember that according to the PC klan, people have “diversequality”.
Their demographic differences mean they are inherently different in indescribable ways.
And yet despite these demographic differences, they are NOT inherently different because disparate impact or something.
What excuse does an empty-nester have? Think of the book as that third baby…
Samuel Ashe and Bartlett Durham were probably slaveowners, the Ann of Ann Arbor and her husband were probably racists, too– everyone was then– John Evans was responsible for the Sand Creek Massacre, and covered it up, the Shakers refused to fight for the Union, our first C.O.s…
Madison and Austin, do we even have to ask…?
Lexington and Burlington are probably safe (for now), with ambiguous origins.
‘Successful’ whores and strippers.
Woman’s primary evolutionary imperative is to birth and nurture children and is ruinously affected by this sort of thing.
I await some commenters’ tales of NAXALT stripper whores they have known who made ‘wonderful mothers.’
It's my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That's just the way it is.
We're doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can't turn this around.
We're smart, you see, so smart we can see what's coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women's "evolutionary imperative." Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn't preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.Replies: @epochehusserl, @Desiderius, @Daniel Chieh, @unpc downunder
I am going to paraphrase Sailer’s sentenced from awhile back that made me laugh:
Only dummies aren’t aware that smart people don’t believe in intelligence anymore.
This OPA is feeling even older tonight.
Terman’s Genetic Studies of Genius was on the open shelves at the public library there in my childhood. I had read every volume by the time I was ten or twelve, and most loved the historical one, a book I recommend to all of you – give it to your grandchildren to teach them something of what glories human beings are capable. They might even be inspired to try to emulate the childhood feats of a Leibnitz or a Goethe, a Haydn or a Dickens.
This nastiness of one American against another reminds me of what we were like in the decade leading up to the Civil War. It’s coming again , and, again, the wrong side is going to win.
Over and out, America.
But, you’ll notice, I haven’t written that book yet.
What’s the import of the fact you haven’t?
So that’s how it all happened. The Greatest Generation fought WWII. 400,000 US soldiers most of whom didn’t have a chance to have children yet, our most moral men, died leaving us with many of the worst sorts to procreate giving us the Baby Boomer generation, the 60’s, Bill Clinton, Oprah Winfrey, etc..
Phew! At least now I understand how we got here.
Oh wait. That wasn't supposed to be comedy?
Sorry, sorry everyone. Yes, I see my error, for Palo Alto Weekly has been near terminal with Humor Deprivation Disorder since I first read it in the early '90s (twas just a weekly IIRC).
Yes, boys and girls--listen to this Wise Latina Madre: man's reach should never exceed his grasp; that's what's consumerism's for!!!!
Now here, little mestizo. You play cards and fight in the back of the classroom, and we'll give you free college and a degree when you demand it.
Equality of outcomes for all! Kill the exceptional--they just make the rest of you look bad! Evolution is racist! Population genetics wears jackboots and klan hat! Backward is forward! Downward is upward! And always twirling, Twirling, TWIRLING toward freedom!!!!!Replies: @Currahee, @Eckbach, @Clyde
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Just about anywhere else – agreed.
Palo Alto? Where do I sign?
Neither one of those women had any children. I haven’t either, by choice. I guess we’re all failures.
It’s my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That’s just the way it is.
We’re doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can’t turn this around.
We’re smart, you see, so smart we can see what’s coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women’s “evolutionary imperative.” Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn’t preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.
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We have this side from the feminists OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I dont know of any reasonable person who thinks that making babies is the ONLY thing that women can do. But it is the MOST IMPORTANT. Men cannot bear children. If women did everything that men did the human race would eventually die out. Simply recognizing sexual dimorphism is not the crime of the century. Furthermore, assigning sexual roles based upon biology is not insanity or oppression or superstitious. If people dont take biological reality into consideration, they will suffer.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Sure, it might not be good for the human race, but no one said that intelligence necessarily had survival value.
Steve,
I’m not in a position to either confirm or deny the veracity of your quote nor am I denying Murray’s and Pinker’s intelligence. Certainly they are accomplished men. If you set aside their positions, books and celebrity, what do the exude in person that makes you think they are noticeably smarter? I ask out of genuine curiosity not to be confrontational or to fawn.
It's my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That's just the way it is.
We're doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can't turn this around.
We're smart, you see, so smart we can see what's coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women's "evolutionary imperative." Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn't preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.Replies: @epochehusserl, @Desiderius, @Daniel Chieh, @unpc downunder
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women’s “evolutionary imperative.” Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn’t preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.
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We have this side from the feminists OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I dont know of any reasonable person who thinks that making babies is the ONLY thing that women can do. But it is the MOST IMPORTANT. Men cannot bear children. If women did everything that men did the human race would eventually die out. Simply recognizing sexual dimorphism is not the crime of the century. Furthermore, assigning sexual roles based upon biology is not insanity or oppression or superstitious. If people dont take biological reality into consideration, they will suffer.
I'm not in a position to either confirm or deny the veracity of your quote nor am I denying Murray's and Pinker's intelligence. Certainly they are accomplished men. If you set aside their positions, books and celebrity, what do the exude in person that makes you think they are noticeably smarter? I ask out of genuine curiosity not to be confrontational or to fawn.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon
Precision of thought and speech.
Maybe vital energy would be another factor. Trump certainly has VE and seems to have incredible PR but his speech is no more precise than average. In his case the equation would be VE X IQ/PR = smarts.
https://www.infowars.com/jorge-ramos-whites-will-become-a-minority-this-is-our-country/Replies: @DWB, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Neil Templeton
This is an incontrovertible fact, a cast-iron, nailed-on gear-on-tee. Nothing, NOTHING, can change the current trend from continuing at its current pace.
But it’s not a problem, because by the magic of “extend the current trend”, the DOW will be around 1,250,000 and “unemployment” will be -135% (the national debt will have reached a number that humans are unable to visualize, everyone will continue to ignore it, just like now!)
Someone needs to start a petition. I am sure the school board members will be the first to sign.Replies: @fitzGetty, @phil, @Cloudswrest, @Neoconned
My aunt lives in Sunnyvale. Her house is worth ~2.3 million I think she said and its a dull, boring 70s era ranch.
She has young techy families stopping by and leaving notes on her porch telling her they’ll pay 2 million dollars CASH, sight unseen. And to have mercy because they’re a family and need a place to stay, or some such.
I think she’s in her late 50s or early 60s. Her husband owns a lot of shares in dividend paying REITs and stocks. So they’re comfortable. I imagine a LOT of older people are considering selling out and moving down to San Diego and buying a ranch down there for a tenth the cost…..
Well, you’re absolutely right.
An IQ in that “unreliable” range to which you refer (and childhood in high IQ locales) is no protection against things like severe, debilitating OCD. You might just end up going to a “public” Ivy and dating strippers.
IQ is just one factor in life’s equation. We all know that.
Judging by its fruits, looking every day more like dysgenics.
It's my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That's just the way it is.
We're doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can't turn this around.
We're smart, you see, so smart we can see what's coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women's "evolutionary imperative." Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn't preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.Replies: @epochehusserl, @Desiderius, @Daniel Chieh, @unpc downunder
Individually you’re smart, but the individual is not the only pertinent agent.
home run (or, hole in one if you prefer) again.
Palo Alto is just about the most likely place on earth these days where one will see the head of a SJW almost literlly explode like that scene in the movie "Scanners" from cognitive dissonance.
People in a town that overwhelmingly supports sanctuary for illegal immigrants and opposes school choice (bumper stickers with "Nobody Is Illegal" - in Spanish, no less are common) who have their OWN PRIVATE PARK that refuses entry to anyone who cannot prove he is a Palo Alto resident. Try getting into Foothills Park for some "undocumented recreation."
It's funny that Shallow Alto is debating stripping the name of Terman from a school, when just last year, the State of California appproved naming a mile-long stretch of the Bayshore Freeway (Highway 101) running through Palo Alto as the "Frederick Terman Memorial Highway."
A blockade of Priuses is expected at the Embarcadero Road on-ramp any day.
Terman, Shockley, Starr-Jordan, and more recently (and obviously to a lesser degree, TJ Rodgers). All of these guys will eventually be scrubbed, I reckon. It would not shock me at all to open the San Jose Mercury News and "discover" that the genius at Intel was not Andy Grove, but in a scene straight out of "Goodwill Hunting," that Moore's Law was really written on a chalkboard in the break room by an undocumented. single mother struggling to raise her family in East Palo Alto as a custodian.
Seriously though - there is a great recapitulation of the early days of the Valley in Tom Wolfe's book Hooking UpReplies: @res, @zanon
Andy Grove was an immigrant so I doubt they will retcon him out.
You can have eugenics without abortion but you can't have abortion without entailing eugenics (or dysgenics).
Hypocrisy, stupidity.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @anon, @Bill Jones
Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder was a famous eugenicist whose goal of weeding out the weaker races hit a major milestone a couple of years ago when more Negro babies were aborted than born alive in Manhattan.
“Eugenics” means different things to different people. Corvinus, one of your less endearing habits is to vary between extremely inclusive/exclusive definitions as suits your argument while acting like whichever definition you are using at the moment is the only true definition. Often useful when engaging in the motte and bailey fallacy.
Wow. I had to double-check that I didn’t write this. I grew up in a white town in the Finge Lakes and went to SUNY XYZ. Suddenly I went from being a white American kid to an “Irish” kid although I was a least a hundred years removed from that but still had an Irish last name.
One of the subreddits of Journolist, or whatever they are called today, True Believers Who Really Need A Sinecure, or something?
She has young techy families stopping by and leaving notes on her porch telling her they'll pay 2 million dollars CASH, sight unseen. And to have mercy because they're a family and need a place to stay, or some such.
I think she's in her late 50s or early 60s. Her husband owns a lot of shares in dividend paying REITs and stocks. So they're comfortable. I imagine a LOT of older people are considering selling out and moving down to San Diego and buying a ranch down there for a tenth the cost.....Replies: @Ivy
For a tenth of the cost, they might need to aim further east, but not quite all the way to Duroville 😉
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We have this side from the feminists OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I dont know of any reasonable person who thinks that making babies is the ONLY thing that women can do. But it is the MOST IMPORTANT. Men cannot bear children. If women did everything that men did the human race would eventually die out. Simply recognizing sexual dimorphism is not the crime of the century. Furthermore, assigning sexual roles based upon biology is not insanity or oppression or superstitious. If people dont take biological reality into consideration, they will suffer.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
And I didn’t say they should, now did I?
I recognize “sexual dimorphism,” and I’m not saying that women should do “everything that men [do].”
Be honest. You know this.
I am just stating the obvious fact that if a woman in college wants to show herself off to men in exchange for ridiculous amounts of money — and then invest that money at a profit — then she is smart.
Whether or not that wonderful, smart, sexy college girl decides to bear children is irrelevant.
BTW one of the women referred to, the “private dancer,” not only came from a high IQ city, her father was the city manager. I doubt he ever knew how his daughter got her financial start.
I recognize “sexual dimorphism,” and I’m not saying that women should do “everything that men [do].”
Be honest. You know this.
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We live in a world where the smart people celebrate a man whose movement led to the banning of intelligence testing in large organizations. We live in a world where certain racial groups are outraged at being considered inferior in the same breath that they demand lowered standards for their group. No one is allowed to notice these things. I have long since stopped counting on the common sense of my fellow man. Its a good way to look at things.
How typically misleading of you, Corvinus.
Here are some quotes from Margaret Sanger:
–Speech quoted in “Birth Control: What It Is, How It Works, What It Will Do.” The Proceedings of the First American Birth Control Conference. Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review, Gothic Press, pages 172 and 174.
— “Apostle of Birth Control Sees Cause Gaining Here”, The New York Times, 1923-04-08, p. XII.
— “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda”, October 1921, page 5.
Did you forget quotes around “dated?”
You can read Terman’s 25-year follow-up here. The career section starts at page 90 of the PDF (p. 73 of original).
Over 86% of the men were in professional and managerial occupations,
10.6% in retail, clerical and skilled trades (about the same as college graduates of the time in general; Terman’s college grads were 4.3% in this catetgory),
0.3% were temporarily unemployed,
1.2% in semiskilled labor, the other categories were not evidence of failure.
Only about 5 of the ~800 men could be considered failures, usually due to alcoholism.
The most common occupations were: executives (16.2%), lawyers (10.3%), professors(7.5%), engineers (7.3%), doctors (5.3%).
There is a great deal more information in the book on the careers of the Termites, including on several men who took unusual paths.
You might find R.N. Seitz’s analysis The Termites Grown Tall interesting, though as he was an an officer of the 1 in 1,000,000 IQ society, it is a bit confusing.
And I didn’t say they should, now did I?
I recognize “sexual dimorphism,” and I’m not saying that women should do “everything that men [do].”
Be honest. You know this.
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We live in a world where the smart people celebrate a man whose movement led to the banning of intelligence testing in large organizations. We live in a world where certain racial groups are outraged at being considered inferior in the same breath that they demand lowered standards for their group. No one is allowed to notice these things. I have long since stopped counting on the common sense of my fellow man. Its a good way to look at things.
I am just stating the obvious fact that if a woman in college wants to show herself off to men in exchange for ridiculous amounts of money — and then invest that money at a profit — then she is smart.
Whether or not that wonderful, smart, sexy college girl decides to bear children is irrelevant.
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This is why freedom of association is so important. I dont doubt that there are many talented women, but my personal opinion women havent added much to the advancement of society by foresaking the domestic role. If I have different ideas about the sexual division of labor then the next guy, well why should I or anyone else be able to act on those ideas? Isnt America based upon religious freedom?
“Executive function” X “I.Q./pattern recognition” = “smarts?”
Maybe vital energy would be another factor. Trump certainly has VE and seems to have incredible PR but his speech is no more precise than average. In his case the equation would be VE X IQ/PR = smarts.
I'm not in a position to either confirm or deny the veracity of your quote nor am I denying Murray's and Pinker's intelligence. Certainly they are accomplished men. If you set aside their positions, books and celebrity, what do the exude in person that makes you think they are noticeably smarter? I ask out of genuine curiosity not to be confrontational or to fawn.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon
I had a prof in college who said Pinker was very very smart, and this guy had a Ph.D in Math from Harvard.
I don;t think people are living in Palo Alto primarily because there are few undesirable people. You can live in Montana or North Dakota or a small town in Minnesota and have nice polite neighbors. Price is next to nothing to boot.
There are lots of high paying jobs near Palo Alto and if you get one of those dream jobs you will pay through the nose for housing.
Get on that next book, Steve! I always found it odd that you have only one under your belt. But, then again, I can appreciate how difficult and time consuming a sustained writing project can be… As an INTP, I’ve got about a half dozen ‘started’ books that I never finished. And with some of them, I got pretty far towards completion (e.g., Conservatism in The Sopranos; Gnosticism in the Films of Stanley Kubrick; White Identity in Breaking Bad, etc.)
You may need to “disable” your words or “Stop Ableism” will be watching you. “Ableism” has joined the ranks of the dangerous and vicious “isms:”
“In ableist societies, able-bodiedness is viewed as the norm; people with disabilities are understood as those that deviate from that norm. Disability is seen as something to overcome or to fix, for example, through medical intervention. The ableist worldview holds that disability is an error or a failing rather than a consequence of human diversity, akin to race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender.” (Wikipedia)
Crush ableism!
OT: P. J. O’Rourke, self described libertarian whose writing I have admired for 30+ years, says in this interview (http://reason.com/blog/2017/03/09/reason-podcast-pj-orourke) that he voted for Hillary. I stopped reading after that sentence.
Another #NeverTrumper off my list.
If there has been admiration for 30+ years, why would you "stop reading" when voting for Hillary is mentioned?Replies: @Brutusale
I was given what was essentially an IQ test focusing on mathematical and spatial reasoning when I applied for a low level technical job with AT&T a few years ago. They called it a “skills test,” but none of the questions required any specific knowledge or experience to answer.
I wonder how they get away with it.
https://www.infowars.com/jorge-ramos-whites-will-become-a-minority-this-is-our-country/Replies: @DWB, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Neil Templeton
I saw that. Nice that Mr. Carlson called Mr. Ramos on his challenge to his face. Unusual in the current year. Mr. Ramos appropriating “Latino Struggle” as he glides without effort as a fully assimilated, high income, American.
home run (or, hole in one if you prefer) again.
Palo Alto is just about the most likely place on earth these days where one will see the head of a SJW almost literlly explode like that scene in the movie "Scanners" from cognitive dissonance.
People in a town that overwhelmingly supports sanctuary for illegal immigrants and opposes school choice (bumper stickers with "Nobody Is Illegal" - in Spanish, no less are common) who have their OWN PRIVATE PARK that refuses entry to anyone who cannot prove he is a Palo Alto resident. Try getting into Foothills Park for some "undocumented recreation."
It's funny that Shallow Alto is debating stripping the name of Terman from a school, when just last year, the State of California appproved naming a mile-long stretch of the Bayshore Freeway (Highway 101) running through Palo Alto as the "Frederick Terman Memorial Highway."
A blockade of Priuses is expected at the Embarcadero Road on-ramp any day.
Terman, Shockley, Starr-Jordan, and more recently (and obviously to a lesser degree, TJ Rodgers). All of these guys will eventually be scrubbed, I reckon. It would not shock me at all to open the San Jose Mercury News and "discover" that the genius at Intel was not Andy Grove, but in a scene straight out of "Goodwill Hunting," that Moore's Law was really written on a chalkboard in the break room by an undocumented. single mother struggling to raise her family in East Palo Alto as a custodian.
Seriously though - there is a great recapitulation of the early days of the Valley in Tom Wolfe's book Hooking UpReplies: @res, @zanon
You are wrong.
The “private park” lets residents take in guests who may not be residents.
Huge loophole. Should be 100% residents only (and ideally, homeowning residents, not renters)
I wonder how they get away with it.Replies: @Steve Sailer
You spend a lot of money on a consulting company to “validate” your test. P&G did it and kept their famous test.
My old company was penny wise and pound foolish: For years they’d been hiring using Dr. Gerry Eskin’s Quantitative Methods in Marketing 402 final as their hiring exam. A tough test. It worked great. Finally the feds objected, so we threw it out.
Big mistake.
An unemployed White guy suing AT&T for discrimination is not a winning plan, so they get away with it.Replies: @Alden
It's my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That's just the way it is.
We're doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can't turn this around.
We're smart, you see, so smart we can see what's coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women's "evolutionary imperative." Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn't preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.Replies: @epochehusserl, @Desiderius, @Daniel Chieh, @unpc downunder
I agree. Having a high IQ just means that the person is going to have a better set of tools to achieve his or her objectives; its silly to think that this necessarily means that he or she is going to go ahead and use it to maximize reproductive fitness now that we’ve become so disconnected from our natural settings.
Sure, it might not be good for the human race, but no one said that intelligence necessarily had survival value.
It's my observation that highly intelligent people nowadays are less likely to reproduce. That's just the way it is.
We're doomed, you see. Even my president, the great Donald Trump, can't turn this around.
We're smart, you see, so smart we can see what's coming better than you can.
BTW I disagree with your simple assessment of women's "evolutionary imperative." Do you know why? Because males also have an imperative to reproduce, obviously. That doesn't preclude us from doing other things, now does it? Only the dumbest races (and individuals) consign their sexes solely to the simple act of reproduction.Replies: @epochehusserl, @Desiderius, @Daniel Chieh, @unpc downunder
The main reason birthrates are falling is because women who used to have a lot of kids are now having smaller families. It has little to do the number of non-breeders.
Lots of those smart women who aren’t having kids were probably nannies and spinsters in previous eras.
What evidence do you have for that pattern?
Are you a contemporary nanny and spinster?
Interesting cross-analysis: what is the average bench press of Palo Alto?
I wonder where the nexus of High IQ and High upper body strength would be in the US? The World? (throw out the weird outliers like 90% male towns in Alaska)
In this day and age,…IQ tests sort Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers into canon fodder for the Military Industrial Complex and for Greater Israel….get rid of IQ tests…
If IQ tests were eliminated, what would stop the Military Industrial Complex and Greater Israel from sorting Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers into canon fodder anyway?
Answer:Why are Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers from the economically distressed American Heartland economically redundant?
I'll give you a much more detailed answer later......Replies: @Alden
Not since the one they let in thirty years ago raped my girlfriend.
(And no, she was neither the stripper nor the escort.)
Lots of those smart women who aren’t having kids were probably nannies and spinsters in previous eras.
What evidence do you have for that pattern?
Are you a contemporary nanny and spinster?
Ultimately, we'll have to give up western civilization so as not to hurt women's precious feelings.
So sad, as The Donald would say.Replies: @Mr. Anon
“‘It’s queer how out of touch with truth women are. They live in a world of their own, and there had never been anything like it, and never can be. It is too beautiful altogether, and if they were to set it up it would go to pieces before the first sunset. Some confounded fact we men have been living contentedly with ever since the day of creation would start up and knock the whole thing over.’ ”
– Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness
It makes no sense to have that kind of “oh my virgin eyes” reaction though.
If there has been admiration for 30+ years, why would you “stop reading” when voting for Hillary is mentioned?
"In ableist societies, able-bodiedness is viewed as the norm; people with disabilities are understood as those that deviate from that norm. Disability is seen as something to overcome or to fix, for example, through medical intervention. The ableist worldview holds that disability is an error or a failing rather than a consequence of human diversity, akin to race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender." (Wikipedia)Replies: @guest
I wish I could go back in time and show that to John Locke, or somebody like that, and say, “Thanks. This is what your stupid enlightened rationalism inevitably leads to.”
Crush ableism!
Plus the Hitler memory. The shortest version of it that I know: Hitler was more about greed and inner rage and turmoil, than he was about eugenics.
(There will sometime be somebody, who gets this Hitler-story told in terms of what really made Hitler and what just happened to happen at the same time).(My guess is, that this person would work with the insights of Paul Collier and the socio-psychologist Putnam about social pressure and cultural diversity. Then he/ she would tell the history of eugenics and point out: That the idea of eugenics was an inherent part of modernity and for sure did not cause the attempt, to kill all the Jews in the world. - Because - as I said: The concept of eugenics was an integral part of western modernity - but nobody else of those into eugenics in England, Sweden, California etc. did care the least bit about killing all Jews - some of those into eugenics in Germnay did so, 1941 ff - that's true, but that's not the whole story of eugenics, it's rather a part of it).BI wwould really love it, if you wrote something about HBD and why this topic is not the end of the world, really, in your forthcoming book.C For that, I wish you lots of good look - what I've read here in the last 11 months was - the best in Journalism anywhere. I found your work very interesting. I could imagine though, that it is quite some task, to find a form for all your scetches of the American pleasures - - and pains. Just leave a lot out, I'd propose.Replies: @guest, @Laurence
I’m not good at such things, but could we mitigate the Hitler Problem (which, of course, is never used to demonize vegetarianism, anti-smoking, animal rights, or whatever the ruling class is comfortable with) by introducing the concepts of Hard and Soft Eugenics. Hard Eugenics being official state policy, and Soft Eugenics being things people are induced to do, officially or socially, by indirect means. That’s already done, of course, intentionally and unintentionally: aid for single mothers, subsidizing abortion providers, handing out free condoms, sex ed, maternity leave, literally countless programs. And that’s just the government.
We could simply start referring to things not thought of as eugenics (or disgenics) properly. For instance when a friend or relative marries someone of equal or greater general health, intelligence, physical ability, beauty, achievement in life, etc., say something like “good eugenics,” or “how eugenic of you.” Assuming they’re capable of and likely to breed.
People don’t associate the word with the right things, as it is.
Hypocrisy is no longer an operative concept to the post-foundationalist, since they have no principles to which they could conceivably be untrue, not that truth is an operative concept either.
This of course is completely unworkable on a practical level, so they just make up whatever random shit they want to. But no, not a strength.Replies: @guest
You don’t have to have stable principles to be a hypocrite. The above poster erred by tying it to consistency. If the enemy is inconsistent, that’s another problem. Hypocrisy is simply acting, or in other words lying. Anyone can do that, especially those with no principles
And then you realize that being really smart is to some extent mutually exclusive with being really wise, really socially savvy, really conscientious, etc…
The Law of Mental Conservation
I wonder where the nexus of High IQ and High upper body strength would be in the US? The World? (throw out the weird outliers like 90% male towns in Alaska)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @a Newsreader
The Henley Regatta?
Who got the fat mestiza mom?
I see your point…but IME with rowing (my 1A workout), it doesn’t require upper body strength so much as coordination of limbs and trunk and engagement of all muscles with a sense of rhythm.
Also if my limited experience of crew is any indication, the cox does most of the headwork, at least with sweep; scull is different. I might come at it differently today, however, or if I were racing or hunting.
The answer to Alex’s question IMO:
Among sailing geeks (water, ice, or snow).
Never tried land sailing, but it’s probably similar.
Palo Alto High: White 50%, Asian 29%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5617-Palo-Alto-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Gunn High School: White: 44%, Asian 39%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Terman Middle School: White 38%, Asian 38%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Jordan Middle School: White 53%, Asian 28%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5614-David-Starr-Jordan-Middle-School/#Race_ethnicity
Stanford Middle School: White 41%, Asian 41%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5619-Jane-Lathrop-Stanford-Middle-School/
A similar pattern exists in the elementary schools. Not only are Asians not predominant in Palo Alto Schools, they are not a majority in ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL in the city.
Now, Cupertino, OTOH...Replies: @Olorin, @International Jew
“Predominant” means what in your eyes, 50% plus 1 student?
I disagree.
There is some point well under 50% + 1 student where a nonwhite group couples a strong numerical cluster with affirmative action perks and practiced grievances (backable up with lawsuits) to become “predominant” in power and access if not–at least yet–numbers.
Anywhere in the till-recently-white US where Asians are tied with whites for representation in the public schools is, to me, extremely Asian predominant. Because the numbers of whites may be “equal,” but their standing before policy and law is not.
And that is why these families pay $4 million for a little ranch house.
And that is likely why they double down on posing as anti-eugenic. It’s weird, because whites in their own nations have been throughout my life the subjects of an aggressive and assertive eugenic scheme involving their replacement on the grounds that they are inferior. Because Hitler. (I.e., Charles Murray’s superhero avatar we are told.)
Noticing is also Hitler.
While my comment was to International Jew's (falsifiable) claim that "majority of schoolchildren in Palo Alto are now Chinese" (in fact, not only are they not the majority overall in PA schools, they are not a majority IN ANY ONE SCHOOL), I think "predominant" means what a dictionary says that it does.
It does not mean "over-representative" and it does not mean "has political or other powers beyond their numbers."
If you want to see a school district where Asians have the numbers and the power, you need to go a few miles down 280 to Cupertino, where it really is the case.
In the city of Palo Alto - and the Palo Alto public schools - the white parents are far more vocal and far more likely to show up at school boards and complain. They typically will cower before cries of "white privilege" when those claims come from NAMs, but they are far less pliant on the odd day that an Asian complains.
I used to work in Palo Alto with colleagues who lived in the city. There was a move for a Mandarin language immersion school which faced at first resistance, while a Spanish immersion school was set up quickly. Today, there is one of each (Oholone Elementary, Escondido Elementary respectively).
Given the way that the world economy is going - and that Asians represent a large minority of kids in Palo Alto, whereas Latinos represent a tiny tiny TINY fraction), which of these do you think for practical purposes makes the most sense? Which faced no opposition?
I'm not arguing that the demographic changes in Palo Alto are a net positive or negative, or that Asians are not hugely over-represented in Palo Alto relative to their over-all numbers in the US and California as well.
But IJ's claim is just false. Making false arguments undermines the legitimate ones we want to advance.Replies: @Alden
Try to identify where you could free up a few hours per week.
For instance, manually approving hundreds of comments per day does not seem to be the most productive use of a public intellectual’s time.
A book is a good thing.
A passel of minions is baller.
I couldn't find a clip of Bart Simpson's fantasy about training cats to be his unholy army of the night ("Go forth, my pretties! Kill! KILL!")...
...so here's our host as King Snorky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVsmXWnXza0
For instance, manually approving hundreds of comments per day does not seem to be the most productive use of a public intellectual's time.Replies: @Olorin, @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753
OTOH, that work on behalf of his guests quite possibly makes the public more intellectual by supplying a laboratory of Pamphleteer Testing and Development.
A book is a good thing.
A passel of minions is baller.
I couldn’t find a clip of Bart Simpson’s fantasy about training cats to be his unholy army of the night (“Go forth, my pretties! Kill! KILL!”)…
…so here’s our host as King Snorky:
To catch the big picture seems a severe deficiency in most of human beings specially white trash on the left and on the right and their mental infection or Jewish retarded.
For instance, manually approving hundreds of comments per day does not seem to be the most productive use of a public intellectual's time.Replies: @Olorin, @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753
Are you kidding me? We’re a source of ideas for him, at least occasionally. He’s a market researcher, remember?
“Public intellectual.” I have to laugh at someone seriously using that term, and I don’t care if it’s technically correct. It sounds ridiculous and self-flattering today, like it came right out of some politically-obsessed European cafe club in another century.
Look where those public intellectuals got us.
And I’m sure this comment only serves to support your opinion of the time Steve spends on comments. (Though I admit, respectfully now, that you might actually be right.)
I’ve read a lot of Mencken, and agree with ~99% of it, but I cannot recall any such thing. I’d certainly be interested in a somewhat better reference.
Thanks.
I suppose Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos staff must have contributed to Palo Alto’s high IQ …
If IQ tests were eliminated, what would stop the Military Industrial Complex and Greater Israel from sorting Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers into canon fodder anyway?Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
You have asked the most important and deepest question ever posed in UNZ REVIEW…and you should be given a special award for asking it.
Answer:Why are Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers from the economically distressed American Heartland economically redundant?
I’ll give you a much more detailed answer later……
In the UK where I grew up in the 1950s there was a particular fascination for “intelligence” and there was no embarrassment whatever in segregating kids who could demonstrate enhanced aptitude. All children had to take what was, effectively, an IQ test and those who passed were streamed into a more academic system (known as “Grammar School”): a small proportion went on to “university” (1n 1950 only 3.4% managed this in the UK).
Looking at that test today (I took it in 1952) it really does appear quite tough. For one thing we didn’t have calculators back then – instead we had “long division and multiplication”!
I’d be curious to know how the standard of this “eleven-plus” test strikes people today.
Please take a look:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3637048/Pens-down-no-cheating-you-may-now-start-your-own-11-plus-exam.html
All the vocabulary, grammar, and analogies are/were a snap. There were some Briticisms like "P.T.O", or market day that I would not have been familiar with. And I would not have had a clue about the queen of Tonga. Must have been au courant in 1954 what with the coronation and world tour of the Commonwealth.
Were the essay questions to gauge composition skills or were they a psych evaluation? It must have been fun to score when reading all the lurid tales dreamt up by a bunch of 11-year olds!
Maybe that book is way overdue? Id like to know what social engineer god made it sinful to note disparaging differences between types of anything. That way this false god could be sent where he belongs, the refuse pile.
Pro-choice is eugenics.
Science is racism.
Science is eugenics
If there has been admiration for 30+ years, why would you "stop reading" when voting for Hillary is mentioned?Replies: @Brutusale
I’m a PJ fan and a collector of his work, but he’s gone off the rails the past 3-6 years. Age, late fatherhood and scotch have had their way with him.
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This is why freedom of association is so important. I dont doubt that there are many talented women, but my personal opinion women havent added much to the advancement of society by foresaking the domestic role. If I have different ideas about the sexual division of labor then the next guy, well why should I or anyone else be able to act on those ideas? Isnt America based upon religious freedom?Replies: @Daniel Chieh
I think many/most of us agree with you and do not have any desire to suppress your/our ideas.
I read once that a lot of South African blacks readily admit that whites are just smart. It didn’t seem to bother them. Maybe they were savvy enough to realize that keeping some whites around was actually good for blacks. Doing a full Mugabe is just stupid.
Its hard to have an intelligent discussion about gender politics without being called a woman hater so Im sorry if I came across that way. For ex- I dont understand why pornography is celebrated by feminists as liberation but prostitution is illegal. In a recent discussion about “whatever happened to freedom of association” hosted at Stanford the law professor obviously couldnt come out and say well the civil rights happened, because obviously we can never say anything against the civil rights movement because that is our religion. So he said some humorous remarks about bisexual men suing a gay softball league for denying him membership but couldnt criticize feminism. He qualified himself right out of the gate and said well these statements dont apply to gender relations as if that was the ultimate taboo.
Olorin –
While my comment was to International Jew’s (falsifiable) claim that “majority of schoolchildren in Palo Alto are now Chinese” (in fact, not only are they not the majority overall in PA schools, they are not a majority IN ANY ONE SCHOOL), I think “predominant” means what a dictionary says that it does.
It does not mean “over-representative” and it does not mean “has political or other powers beyond their numbers.”
If you want to see a school district where Asians have the numbers and the power, you need to go a few miles down 280 to Cupertino, where it really is the case.
In the city of Palo Alto – and the Palo Alto public schools – the white parents are far more vocal and far more likely to show up at school boards and complain. They typically will cower before cries of “white privilege” when those claims come from NAMs, but they are far less pliant on the odd day that an Asian complains.
I used to work in Palo Alto with colleagues who lived in the city. There was a move for a Mandarin language immersion school which faced at first resistance, while a Spanish immersion school was set up quickly. Today, there is one of each (Oholone Elementary, Escondido Elementary respectively).
Given the way that the world economy is going – and that Asians represent a large minority of kids in Palo Alto, whereas Latinos represent a tiny tiny TINY fraction), which of these do you think for practical purposes makes the most sense? Which faced no opposition?
I’m not arguing that the demographic changes in Palo Alto are a net positive or negative, or that Asians are not hugely over-represented in Palo Alto relative to their over-all numbers in the US and California as well.
But IJ’s claim is just false. Making false arguments undermines the legitimate ones we want to advance.
It's so Whites will be able to speak the language of their future masters.Replies: @DWB
He was Jewish, but too much of an assimilationist, and favored job creation in the US. A borderline case, if you ask me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Mosquini
I just improved the Infogalactic version of the above to change “modern day” to “Cultural Marxist”.
The problem of taboos is why we have Mr. Unz here to give us a space to speak our minds. Don’t forget to tip the jar of the writers.
AT&T has a number of pre-employment tests which depend heavily on speed, e.g. comparing pairs of directory entries and identifying ones that don’t match. They moved that one from a paper version to computer without re-norming which made it basically impossible to pass, given the extra time spent moving the mouse back and forth all the way across the screen for each question. Impossible for Whites, anyway – the passing scores were dependent on race and weren’t changed from the paper test. This allowed them to ensure that almost all their non-management technical jobs in Atlanta were given to Blacks. (In the paper test days they also had a crooked test center that passed Blacks almost regardless of score.)
An unemployed White guy suing AT&T for discrimination is not a winning plan, so they get away with it.
Affirmative action is why I refuse to be a conservative. Conservatives totally ignore affirmative action yet expect Whites to support their pro business, pro American patriotism (gag) agenda.
I voted for Trump. I enjoy seeing the liberals go insane over his success and popularity. But he said 2 years ago that he supports affirmative action. He may or may not help the country, but since he supports affirmative action he will do nothing for Whites.
You all know that military and government contracts at all levels must be awarded to at least 51 percent to minority owned and minority employee companies don't you?
Its funny how supposedly skeptical people have their secular taboos. I am only going to university now at age 35 because I was much too blunt as a young man to be able to tolerate the mendacity of a liberal education. I think the liberals err in not knowing that we are only “metaphorically” equal. Its quite improbable to think that disparate groups of people who evolved separately would have “equal” abilities or traits that would be valued by any given society.
The Law of Mental ConservationReplies: @phil
There is no evidence for such a statement.
Huh? Public schools don’t need to advertise or pay to trademark their names. How much for a couple of new signs?
Regarding this ridiculous development in my own hometown, the Publisher of the local newspaper, the Palo Alto Daily Post, had a sensible column suggesting that the city also rename nearby Churchill Street, since Winston Churchill was obviously also a “racist” and a “eugenicist.” This prompted a Letter to the Editor pointing out that streets named after Washington, Jefferson, and Madison would also have to be renamed, since as large-scale slave-owners, their vileness was even more severe.
Presumably a few years down the road, there will be a demand that anyone who had refused to support Gay Marriage must have his name expunged from any public place, which would require the renaming of roughly 100% of everything in our entire country
I think the closest analogy to this crazy American situation was found in the days of Mao’s Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution…
For instance, manually approving hundreds of comments per day does not seem to be the most productive use of a public intellectual's time.Replies: @Olorin, @Buzz Mohawk, @BB753
Don’t worry, Sailer outsourced Komment Kontroll to India years ago. How else could he read a thousand comments per day?
In the West we have the opposite problem. The remake on NBC of the Wizard of Oz ("Emerald City") was explicitly anti-science and pro-magic/feminism which was equated to be the same thing. Part Game of Thrones and part SJW lecture with low-rent Wiccanism, it exposed the true debased nature of Western elites as ultra-feminized and decadent. If you take the limited series as what elites actually believe you get:
*Science == evil, because its White Male dominated.
*Women == always good, White male always bad, save hunky ones.
*Magic > Science, because its all women, see above.
*Young hot women should steal older hot and powerful women's husbands because pointless drama (no really, that's a major "romantic" subplot shades of Bill/Hillary/Monica).
*Everyone should be ruled by some random Black person, bonus points if they are transgender (no I'm not kidding on that one either).
That's to my mind an accurate summary of what elites ACTUALLY believe. Its bankrupt and nuts and not even within nodding acquaintance of reality much less path to power through ever better and more powerful technology. While Russia and China are deeply flawed societies, they don't have our rotten elites who literally believe in magic. Technology kills while magic is the equivalent of a Souix Ghost Dance.Replies: @RudyM
It didn’t keep Jack Parsons from being a literal rocket scientist.
For me this is extraordinary, growing up in the 50s and 60’s in San Francisco, of Greek-Russian heritage, where the household fillip was to be always “intyeleegentne.” Thank you, Mr. Sailer. You’ve opened a horizon that, if the Korea situation doesn’t plunder us presently, may leave some time to reflect on LSD days in Golden Gate Park, before graduating and investigating the truly accomplished “intelligent” at places such as Reed College. We’re still a little lucky, though, I think, if we lived any time in, say, America’s Northwest (and this is a general attitude applicable worldwide whatever one’s place).
To say hypocrisy is a feature to these people is a colossal understatement.
One also pays for a house within reasonable commuting distance from work.
Lots of Silicon Valley workers live in Tracy and Modesto etc. But a 150 mile round trip commute costs an enormous amount just in gas and minor maintainence plus it means a new car every 5 or 6 years. Gilroy and other towns have much much cheaper housing costs but it means your children will go to school with Mexican gangsters and 15 year old welfare Moms.
Some have speculated that the Silicon Valley suburbs will expand east all the way to the mountains and the San Juaquin valley farms will cease to exist. It might be for the best because although agriculture is still our greatest industry the farm workers have destroyed the state. Since most are Anerican born, there is no way of getting rid of them. Some will be generation after generation of criminals and welfare families. Some will be generation after generation of prison guards, police and welfare workers keeping them somewhat under control.
Plus the Hitler memory. The shortest version of it that I know: Hitler was more about greed and inner rage and turmoil, than he was about eugenics.
(There will sometime be somebody, who gets this Hitler-story told in terms of what really made Hitler and what just happened to happen at the same time).(My guess is, that this person would work with the insights of Paul Collier and the socio-psychologist Putnam about social pressure and cultural diversity. Then he/ she would tell the history of eugenics and point out: That the idea of eugenics was an inherent part of modernity and for sure did not cause the attempt, to kill all the Jews in the world. - Because - as I said: The concept of eugenics was an integral part of western modernity - but nobody else of those into eugenics in England, Sweden, California etc. did care the least bit about killing all Jews - some of those into eugenics in Germnay did so, 1941 ff - that's true, but that's not the whole story of eugenics, it's rather a part of it).BI wwould really love it, if you wrote something about HBD and why this topic is not the end of the world, really, in your forthcoming book.C For that, I wish you lots of good look - what I've read here in the last 11 months was - the best in Journalism anywhere. I found your work very interesting. I could imagine though, that it is quite some task, to find a form for all your scetches of the American pleasures - - and pains. Just leave a lot out, I'd propose.Replies: @guest, @Laurence
Eugenics has a bad name because of Hitler – yet Hitler merely used eugenics as an excuse for his psychopathic hatreds and delusions of grandeur.
The science of eugenics can greatly benefit the human race if used properly – it merely follows the basic laws of nature.
Anti-eugenics dorks always bring up Hitler’s name because they know it will create an emotional reaction.
Again this eternal misconception
Hitler would want a master blonde Nordic race and not exactly or fundamentally higher intelligence even because nazis believed and believe Nordic race and higher intelligence are the same thing.
More Socialist PC cowardice. First thing you know they will try to eliminate Thomas Jefferson from all public monuments, just because he owned slaves.
Our modern “educational” institutions are becoming nothing more than concentration camps for the teaching of the Socialist agenda.
Read the good book BRAINWASHED for an analysis. Also read THE LANGAUGE POLICE for an example of how PC is creating malicious censorship.
Jefferson Is Next Target
Inside Higher Ed
November 23, 2015
At the University of Missouri and at William & Mary, some place notes on statues honoring the author of Declaration of Independence, calling him a rapist and a racist.
In the last week, Princeton University students who object to having Woodrow Wilson's name on an academic unit and a residential college occupied the president's office and left only when promised that the university would review its use of the Wilson name. The students pointed out that Wilson was a racist who, as president of the United States, had federal government agencies segregated, reversing progress toward civil rights for black people. Many observers have wondered which historical figure honored on American campuses would next capture critical attention.
The answer appears to be Thomas Jefferson. At both the University of Missouri at Columbia and the College of William & Mary, critics have been placing yellow sticky notes on Jefferson statues, labeling him -- among other things -- "rapist" and "racist."
The Missourian, Oct 7, 2015
Students Protest Thomas Jefferson Statue, Call For Its Removal
An unemployed White guy suing AT&T for discrimination is not a winning plan, so they get away with it.Replies: @Alden
What’s surprising is that AT&T even bothered with a test. Most jobs are just blatantly no Whites need apply. The state department just subtracts 20 out of the highest possible 100 points from the written test scores of Whites and adds 25 points to the scores of blacks and Hispanics.
Affirmative action is why I refuse to be a conservative. Conservatives totally ignore affirmative action yet expect Whites to support their pro business, pro American patriotism (gag) agenda.
I voted for Trump. I enjoy seeing the liberals go insane over his success and popularity. But he said 2 years ago that he supports affirmative action. He may or may not help the country, but since he supports affirmative action he will do nothing for Whites.
You all know that military and government contracts at all levels must be awarded to at least 51 percent to minority owned and minority employee companies don’t you?
And what’s wrong with that? If abortion had not been legalized the black population would be about 30 percent instead of 12.5 percent.
Answer:Why are Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers from the economically distressed American Heartland economically redundant?
I'll give you a much more detailed answer later......Replies: @Alden
4 words Because they are White. And it’s not just heart land Whites. It’s all White men.
My sister and her husband are rowers. They say it’s mostly the leg muscles.
While my comment was to International Jew's (falsifiable) claim that "majority of schoolchildren in Palo Alto are now Chinese" (in fact, not only are they not the majority overall in PA schools, they are not a majority IN ANY ONE SCHOOL), I think "predominant" means what a dictionary says that it does.
It does not mean "over-representative" and it does not mean "has political or other powers beyond their numbers."
If you want to see a school district where Asians have the numbers and the power, you need to go a few miles down 280 to Cupertino, where it really is the case.
In the city of Palo Alto - and the Palo Alto public schools - the white parents are far more vocal and far more likely to show up at school boards and complain. They typically will cower before cries of "white privilege" when those claims come from NAMs, but they are far less pliant on the odd day that an Asian complains.
I used to work in Palo Alto with colleagues who lived in the city. There was a move for a Mandarin language immersion school which faced at first resistance, while a Spanish immersion school was set up quickly. Today, there is one of each (Oholone Elementary, Escondido Elementary respectively).
Given the way that the world economy is going - and that Asians represent a large minority of kids in Palo Alto, whereas Latinos represent a tiny tiny TINY fraction), which of these do you think for practical purposes makes the most sense? Which faced no opposition?
I'm not arguing that the demographic changes in Palo Alto are a net positive or negative, or that Asians are not hugely over-represented in Palo Alto relative to their over-all numbers in the US and California as well.
But IJ's claim is just false. Making false arguments undermines the legitimate ones we want to advance.Replies: @Alden
2 of the private schools in Pacifica near San Francisco teach Mandarin. There are a lot of private schools in San Mateo and San Francisco and many teach Mandarin.
It’s so Whites will be able to speak the language of their future masters.
I don't doubt that that is so. There is also at least one private school in Palo Alto with Mandarin immersion.
It's beside the point though, which was about whether Chinese predominate in Palo Alto's public schools.
It's obvious from the data that they do not. Yet, at least.
I wonder where the nexus of High IQ and High upper body strength would be in the US? The World? (throw out the weird outliers like 90% male towns in Alaska)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @a Newsreader
Probably college towns with a football program. (Indeed, college towns are biased toward higher upper body strength just by having lots of 20-year-old-ish men).
Or a military base with an officer candidate school.
"Latino" has everything to do with ancestry and nothing to do with someone speaking Spanish. The debate now among the PC is of "Latino" (which is in favour amongst the PC for being more "inclusive") vs. "Hispanic," (which is quickly fading because it is seen as too reductive).
A Hispanic person is someone who speaks Spanish. This could be someone from Mexico, the Dominican Republic, or Madrid.
Latino, as I understand it, means someone originating from Latin America.Replies: @Alden
Actually, there has been a great advance in PC nonsense in the last year as liberals added transgenderism to latinism.
The terms Latino (male) Latina (female) Latino (for the entire group men women and children) are now verboten.
The term is now Latinx because to use o or a is gender specific and discriminatory against the transgender community
We must keep up with the latest terminology!!!!!!
LxtinxReplies: @Jacobite
Science is racism.Replies: @Santoculto
Pro choice is racism
Science is eugenics
The terms Latino (male) Latina (female) Latino (for the entire group men women and children) are now verboten.
The term is now Latinx because to use o or a is gender specific and discriminatory against the transgender community
We must keep up with the latest terminology!!!!!!Replies: @Santoculto
Next evolution
Lxtinx
The science of eugenics can greatly benefit the human race if used properly - it merely follows the basic laws of nature.
Anti-eugenics dorks always bring up Hitler's name because they know it will create an emotional reaction.Replies: @Santoculto
But eugenics was overly practiced by Jews…
Again this eternal misconception
Hitler would want a master blonde Nordic race and not exactly or fundamentally higher intelligence even because nazis believed and believe Nordic race and higher intelligence are the same thing.
A transformation of the Santa Clara Valley’s fertile agricultural fields and natural artesian aquifers into an asphalt parking lot and commercial wasteland known as Silicon Valley, is a shame. As one of earth’s most ideal agricultural environments, it should have been preserved. The legion of six-figure eggheads and their technocratic commanders could have built a software empire just about anywhere, including even the inhospitable Death Valley, California.
Our modern "educational" institutions are becoming nothing more than concentration camps for the teaching of the Socialist agenda.
Read the good book BRAINWASHED for an analysis. Also read THE LANGAUGE POLICE for an example of how PC is creating malicious censorship.Replies: @CCZ
They have been trying at some schools since 2015.
Jefferson Is Next Target
Inside Higher Ed
November 23, 2015
At the University of Missouri and at William & Mary, some place notes on statues honoring the author of Declaration of Independence, calling him a rapist and a racist.
In the last week, Princeton University students who object to having Woodrow Wilson’s name on an academic unit and a residential college occupied the president’s office and left only when promised that the university would review its use of the Wilson name. The students pointed out that Wilson was a racist who, as president of the United States, had federal government agencies segregated, reversing progress toward civil rights for black people. Many observers have wondered which historical figure honored on American campuses would next capture critical attention.
The answer appears to be Thomas Jefferson. At both the University of Missouri at Columbia and the College of William & Mary, critics have been placing yellow sticky notes on Jefferson statues, labeling him — among other things — “rapist” and “racist.”
The Missourian, Oct 7, 2015
Students Protest Thomas Jefferson Statue, Call For Its Removal
1/3 of all German males were killed or wounded in World War II. Before the world wars, they were a Prussian-like country (except for southern Germans like the Bavarians, who were happy-go-lucky), and many of the more wayward-thinking and nonconformist Germans fled in the 1800s for either religious (a lot of Anabaptists come from Germany) or political reasons (the Revolution of 1848).
However, since the great cull of World War II, Germans are a feckless bunch of liberals who can’t seem to recognize a threat even if it blows up in their faces. To me, this proves war does indeed kill off your most aggressive gene lines.
The French used to be a very warlike people if you examine their long history, but the relentless wars of Napoleon and the trenches of World War I took the stuffing out of them and killed off most of their aggressive males, too. Napoleon killed practically an entire generation of men.
The Russians, by contrast, benefited. They became a country that wanted big-screen TVs instead of being kissers of sadistic Stalinistic ass. World War II wiped out a lot of their murderous nutjobs.
To this theory make total sense almost of "aggressive lines" must be (self) killed in Germany, France, but even higher levels of mortality still wasn't that high levels. This theory make more sense to the Paraguay war where ~ 80% of paraguayan men was killed but even there it's necessary prove empirically.
Soldier type men are one of the most respectful to the authority, whatever what. In other words they are on avg very conformist to the authority. They rarely act to the war without a superior order.
Well, what do the fine folks of the Republic of Mexifornia pay these wizards of Equality, as compared to, say, the garden variety lettuce picker, whose labors are certainly more useful.
Oh wait. That wasn't supposed to be comedy?
Sorry, sorry everyone. Yes, I see my error, for Palo Alto Weekly has been near terminal with Humor Deprivation Disorder since I first read it in the early '90s (twas just a weekly IIRC).
Yes, boys and girls--listen to this Wise Latina Madre: man's reach should never exceed his grasp; that's what's consumerism's for!!!!
Now here, little mestizo. You play cards and fight in the back of the classroom, and we'll give you free college and a degree when you demand it.
Equality of outcomes for all! Kill the exceptional--they just make the rest of you look bad! Evolution is racist! Population genetics wears jackboots and klan hat! Backward is forward! Downward is upward! And always twirling, Twirling, TWIRLING toward freedom!!!!!Replies: @Currahee, @Eckbach, @Clyde
Why are you here Mexican mother ? Are you no longer in the Eden of Mexico because your grandfathers cast out Maximilian and Carlotta (cousin of Queen Victoria)?
Palo Alto High: White 50%, Asian 29%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5617-Palo-Alto-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Gunn High School: White: 44%, Asian 39%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Terman Middle School: White 38%, Asian 38%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5611-Henry-M.-Gunn-High-School/#Race_ethnicity
Jordan Middle School: White 53%, Asian 28%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5614-David-Starr-Jordan-Middle-School/#Race_ethnicity
Stanford Middle School: White 41%, Asian 41%
http://www.greatschools.org/california/palo-alto/5619-Jane-Lathrop-Stanford-Middle-School/
A similar pattern exists in the elementary schools. Not only are Asians not predominant in Palo Alto Schools, they are not a majority in ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL in the city.
Now, Cupertino, OTOH...Replies: @Olorin, @International Jew
My commute takes me past Gunn High School. I never see any white students at all coming out of there.
I stand corrected.
So is the suicidal liberalism of Sweden a result of the slaughter of so many virile young Swedish men in the endless wars Sweden has fought for the past 200 years?
So aggressive ones are easy to deceive and to make them kill themselves.
To this theory make total sense almost of “aggressive lines” must be (self) killed in Germany, France, but even higher levels of mortality still wasn’t that high levels. This theory make more sense to the Paraguay war where ~ 80% of paraguayan men was killed but even there it’s necessary prove empirically.
Soldier type men are one of the most respectful to the authority, whatever what. In other words they are on avg very conformist to the authority. They rarely act to the war without a superior order.
But Haiti “independence”??
My Swede friends say they were basically culled of Viking stock by the wars of a few centuries ago plus mass emigration of the better ones to the US.
Oh wait. That wasn't supposed to be comedy?
Sorry, sorry everyone. Yes, I see my error, for Palo Alto Weekly has been near terminal with Humor Deprivation Disorder since I first read it in the early '90s (twas just a weekly IIRC).
Yes, boys and girls--listen to this Wise Latina Madre: man's reach should never exceed his grasp; that's what's consumerism's for!!!!
Now here, little mestizo. You play cards and fight in the back of the classroom, and we'll give you free college and a degree when you demand it.
Equality of outcomes for all! Kill the exceptional--they just make the rest of you look bad! Evolution is racist! Population genetics wears jackboots and klan hat! Backward is forward! Downward is upward! And always twirling, Twirling, TWIRLING toward freedom!!!!!Replies: @Currahee, @Eckbach, @Clyde
On mindless consumerism! Score! I will memorize your line and use it.
Go to Asia for some real idiocy. I get reports from friends who visit Taiwan, Thailand, Philippines etc. As you walk the streets the young people are on automatic, chattering away on their cell phones and smart phones while walking along. Much worse than here-USA. Non stop chatter by the girls and guys. Non stop texting too.
They are into their smart phones more than here and in all ways, such as boy meet girl apps for the shy and ones for the not that shy. OK we have this too but they do it to death and in Korea too. No reports from Nippon but prolly the same.
I am right wing as anyone but have never liked hyped up consumerism which just fills a void…but usually does not succeed. I can’t stand the LCD-LED laden displays dashboards of today’s trucks and automobiles. I will admit I get a kick out of the way The Donald and Melania do it in their cluttered houses all full of expensive furniture and gilded bric a brac. I think half the reason they do this is because visitors and guests get a kick from looking around at the over the top decor.
If I had the money to imitate anyone it would be the non-cluttered look of Frank Sinatra’s Palm Springs house done in mid century modern. http://www.sinatrahouse.com/
By definition people with disabilities are inferior to others.
And normal ones are on avg inferior to the lucky abnormal ones who tend to command them.
Ideal is not always normal, vice versa, and in the current conjuncture normal tend to be the attenuation of qualities of the extremes as well their disqualities.
Leftism is based on Nurture being the ultimate factor in human outcomes. Once that crumbles, people will realize the futility of state/social engineering solutions to inborn deficiencies. By the 22nd century, genetics and brain research will confirm what was known in the 19th century, so hopefully the consensus in the West will be for government to create the best circumstances for the cognitive deficients to maximize their skill set instead of trying fruitlessly to transform them into something they can never become.Replies: @ScarletNumber
Paul Graham has noted that people don’t get mad at others for saying things that are false.
Delaware?
Paying $1471 per square foot for a “nothing special ranch style house” doesn’t seem terrifically intelligent to me. Maybe it’s smarter to figure out how to live where you can get a nice house for one tenth the price per square foot.
The re-naming of the past continues. I came upon this story of an old racist scientist in a local news outlet:
“Lakeview School Named For ‘Racist’ Scientist Considers Name Change;
Agassiz Elementary School is surveying its community to see if a name change is in order after parents and community members have expressed concern over the spotty history of the school’s namesake.
Swiss-American scientist Louis Agassiz was long celebrated for his research in paleontology, geology and zoology.
He is perhaps best known for his theory that Earth had previously experienced an Ice Age, although his legacy is considered tarnished by some for his belief in polygenism.
Now considered a vein of scientific racism, polygenism is the idea that each human race was created separately in different climates and shared distinct attributes.
The content of the survey also explains that “Agassiz strongly believed that miscegenation (mixing of different races) was harmful to the white race.”
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170303/lakeview/agassiz-elementary-name-change-louis-polygenism-racism
Looks like he’s in trouble now! 1984 is here and now.
124 seems much too low for someone as smart and prolific as yourself
Mass emigration to the 13 colonies???
Much honored. I do okay, with a number of errors but seem to average positive overall. A previous breakdown suggests that my average verbal intelligence was dragging down my other scores, for what it is worth.
It’s not always like that. Psychopaths for example specially the (((high functioning))) are very superior in some aspects than … Others?? You are saying normal ones??
And normal ones are on avg inferior to the lucky abnormal ones who tend to command them.
Ideal is not always normal, vice versa, and in the current conjuncture normal tend to be the attenuation of qualities of the extremes as well their disqualities.
The "private park" lets residents take in guests who may not be residents.
Huge loophole. Should be 100% residents only (and ideally, homeowning residents, not renters)Replies: @Jacobite
That’s the spirit!
Looking at that test today (I took it in 1952) it really does appear quite tough. For one thing we didn't have calculators back then - instead we had "long division and multiplication"!
I'd be curious to know how the standard of this "eleven-plus" test strikes people today.
Please take a look:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3637048/Pens-down-no-cheating-you-may-now-start-your-own-11-plus-exam.htmlReplies: @Jacobite
I would have taken it in 1960. The math wasn’t too bad. Nothing that wasn’t covered in school by the sixth grade. The number series took a bit of work. What was the time limit for the test?
All the vocabulary, grammar, and analogies are/were a snap. There were some Briticisms like “P.T.O”, or market day that I would not have been familiar with. And I would not have had a clue about the queen of Tonga. Must have been au courant in 1954 what with the coronation and world tour of the Commonwealth.
Were the essay questions to gauge composition skills or were they a psych evaluation? It must have been fun to score when reading all the lurid tales dreamt up by a bunch of 11-year olds!
He hasn’t been funny in years. I think the internet totally flummoxed him. He was outraged by social media unleashing vox populi. Always a bit of a curmudgeon, one imagines him writing by candlelight and with a quill pen.
Sounds like a New Wave band!
LxtinxReplies: @Jacobite
Sounds like a new fork of Unix!
It's so Whites will be able to speak the language of their future masters.Replies: @DWB
Alden –
I don’t doubt that that is so. There is also at least one private school in Palo Alto with Mandarin immersion.
It’s beside the point though, which was about whether Chinese predominate in Palo Alto’s public schools.
It’s obvious from the data that they do not. Yet, at least.
Well, that’s surely a scientific survey.
I stand corrected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War
From the Bill of Wrongs, under which we now live:
Amendment VII
In suits at “disparate impact,” where the concept in controversy shall be the universal sameness of tabula rasa humans and their necessarily equal outcomes, the requirement of trial by public opinion shall be preserved, and no fact tried by the public and the Corporate Press shall be otherwise reexamined.Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar
Isn’t it amazing, though, how gun control has escaped the crosshairs of “disparate impact”?
Lexington Massachusetts is now dominated by Jews.
Mr. Sailor may not know that.