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From my movie review in Taki’s Magazine:

Rosie Huntington-Whitely, feminist heroine

Indeed, these movies about a future in which savage Australian booners drive fast and fight furiously to get enough gasoline in order to drive and fight to steal more gas might eventually give you the impression that the petrol isn’t really the point. The “guzzoline” is simply the McGuffin justifying all that very Down Underish driving and fighting. …

George Miller’s Mad Max movies aren’t really about how poor Australians will be in the future; they’re more about how broadly prosperous they are in the present.

Evidently, even after Ragnarök, Australia’s cashed up bogans will still be hooning across the Outback in five mile-per-gallon hot rods. …

Miller yanked the chains of critics by supposedly having Fury Road deliver a feminist statement, driving, for example, Anthony Lane of The New Yorker into self-abasing self-parody:

I have been looking forward to this movie for months, trying not to watch the trailers more than twice a day, but, fool that I am, I hadn’t foreseen its feminist ambitions—crystallized in the sight of one Wife [the cartoonishly delicate lingerie model Rosie Huntington-Whitely], heavily pregnant, flinging wide the door of the War Rig and flaunting her belly, like a bronze shield, at her enraged pursuers. (The Wives were coached in preparation for the film by Eve Ensler, the author of “The Vagina Monologues.”)

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Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. The Fatal Shore:

    is a good read and Hughes a fascinating character out of the same milieu as Miller.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Desiderius

    Well, Hughes was a shocker of an old red ragger commie. Good reads on Aust history are "Triumph Of The Nomads" and "A Land Half Won" by Geoffrey Blainey.
    They cover pre-history up till the 1970's or so.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @BubbaJoe
    @Desiderius

    That is an excellent book, as is Rome by the same author. I'm a bit surprised the HBD-sphere hasn't mentioned Hughes before.

    , @dearieme
    @Desiderius

    "The Fatal Shore" would be an even better read if the bugger had got more facts right.

  2. Steve, do you have a link to a list of your top movies?

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A while ago, I was reading a book about Australia’s past unique marsupial mega fauna – which is believed to have been largely wiped out by the Aborigines, and is only known through fossils.
    Apparently, the Australian climate is very precarious and geological records show that Australia has suffered from some pretty fearsome periodical droughts in the past, droughts which basically wiped everything out, and this cycle of droughts is ongoing.
    Combine this with the fact that the vast bulk of Australia is more or less uninhabitable as it is, strongly suggests that Australia should not go for a policy of population expansion, but rather restriction.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Jared Diamond made that point in his book "Collapse" -- that Australia's expansive legal immigration program is kind of nuts considering the prehistoric record of recurrent extreme droughts.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    That's true, but on the other hand progress in solar panels could make energy very cheap in Australia and make it much more habitable.

    Replies: @Romanian

  4. Steve, what are your top ten movies of all time?

  5. @Anonymous
    A while ago, I was reading a book about Australia's past unique marsupial mega fauna - which is believed to have been largely wiped out by the Aborigines, and is only known through fossils.
    Apparently, the Australian climate is very precarious and geological records show that Australia has suffered from some pretty fearsome periodical droughts in the past, droughts which basically wiped everything out, and this cycle of droughts is ongoing.
    Combine this with the fact that the vast bulk of Australia is more or less uninhabitable as it is, strongly suggests that Australia should not go for a policy of population expansion, but rather restriction.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    Jared Diamond made that point in his book “Collapse” — that Australia’s expansive legal immigration program is kind of nuts considering the prehistoric record of recurrent extreme droughts.

  6. (Road Warrior is easily in my top ten favorite movies of all time)

    What are the other nine?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    "What are the other nine?"

    Idiocracy, Troy, Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

    , @DWB
    @Anonymous

    How many "Fast and Furious" Paul Walker vehicles are there?

  7. @Desiderius
    The Fatal Shore:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Fatal-Shore-Australias-Founding/dp/0394753666

    is a good read and Hughes a fascinating character out of the same milieu as Miller.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @BubbaJoe, @dearieme

    Well, Hughes was a shocker of an old red ragger commie. Good reads on Aust history are “Triumph Of The Nomads” and “A Land Half Won” by Geoffrey Blainey.
    They cover pre-history up till the 1970’s or so.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...


    Hughes was a shocker of an old red ragger commie
     
    In light of the New Left and the SJWeenies, the Old Reds aren't looking nearly so bad. Rubashov beats Gletkin, though guess I'd rather not cross paths with either one. Also liked Hughes' Culture of Complaint:

    http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Complaint-Fraying-American-Lectures/dp/0195076761/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

    I'll check out your recommendations from the grave.
  8. @Anonymous
    (Road Warrior is easily in my top ten favorite movies of all time)

    What are the other nine?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @DWB

    “What are the other nine?”

    Idiocracy, Troy, Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

  9. I don’t know if we’re in for a post-apocalyptic retro movie revival, but Albert Pyun who made a lot of the weirdest post-apocalyptic movies ever is working on “Cyborgs: End Of Days”, which is supposed to have big-name actors, a Chinese investor, and be inspired by “A Boy And His Dog”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

  10. Australia really isn’t that much of a worker’s paradise these days.

    Housing has shot up in price. In modern Australia, housing prices are insane.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PzrnpbXUEKUJ:www.domain.com.au/blog/australian-house-prices-then-and-now/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  11. @Desiderius
    The Fatal Shore:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Fatal-Shore-Australias-Founding/dp/0394753666

    is a good read and Hughes a fascinating character out of the same milieu as Miller.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @BubbaJoe, @dearieme

    That is an excellent book, as is Rome by the same author. I’m a bit surprised the HBD-sphere hasn’t mentioned Hughes before.

  12. @Cattle Guard
    I don't know if we're in for a post-apocalyptic retro movie revival, but Albert Pyun who made a lot of the weirdest post-apocalyptic movies ever is working on "Cyborgs: End Of Days", which is supposed to have big-name actors, a Chinese investor, and be inspired by "A Boy And His Dog".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella “A Boy and His Dog” when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    • Replies: @Cattle Guard
    @Steve Sailer

    I haven't read "A Boy And His Dog" yet, but I think I will, just to see how that primitive gym compares to mine.

    , @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer


    primitive post-apocalyptic gym
     
    With gyms, as with nutrition, turns out primitive works pretty well, apocalypse or no:

    http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-3rd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0982522738
    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    If you haven't seen it yet, Dreams with Sharp Teeth, the documentary about Ellison, is pretty entertaining.

    , @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.
     
    What always impressed me about The Humongous: There was a guy who wouldn't let a little thing like the collapse of civilization get in the way of his workout routine.
    , @dsgntd_plyr
    @Steve Sailer

    A character in "The Walking Dead," made a joke about working out to out run zombies that was probably the funniest thing to happen on that show.

  13. @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

    I haven’t read “A Boy And His Dog” yet, but I think I will, just to see how that primitive gym compares to mine.

  14. @Desiderius
    The Fatal Shore:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Fatal-Shore-Australias-Founding/dp/0394753666

    is a good read and Hughes a fascinating character out of the same milieu as Miller.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @BubbaJoe, @dearieme

    “The Fatal Shore” would be an even better read if the bugger had got more facts right.

  15. @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

    primitive post-apocalyptic gym

    With gyms, as with nutrition, turns out primitive works pretty well, apocalypse or no:

  16. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Desiderius

    Well, Hughes was a shocker of an old red ragger commie. Good reads on Aust history are "Triumph Of The Nomads" and "A Land Half Won" by Geoffrey Blainey.
    They cover pre-history up till the 1970's or so.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Hughes was a shocker of an old red ragger commie

    In light of the New Left and the SJWeenies, the Old Reds aren’t looking nearly so bad. Rubashov beats Gletkin, though guess I’d rather not cross paths with either one. Also liked Hughes’ Culture of Complaint:

    I’ll check out your recommendations from the grave.

  17. I hadn’t foreseen its feminist ambitions—crystallized in the sight of one Wife heavily pregnant, flinging wide the door of the War Rig and flaunting her belly, like a bronze shield, at her enraged pursuers.

    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða

    Freydís is described as the half sister to Leif Erikson. Written after the Grœnlendinga saga in the thirteenth century, this story portrays Freydis as a fearless, and protective woman. She joins an expedition to Vinland led by Þorfinnr Karlsefni, but is only mentioned once in the Saga when her camp is attacked by the Red Skins, or the Skrælingjar. The natives sneak up on the Viking camp in the night and shoot what are believed to be catapults at the warriors. Many of the men, having never seen such weaponry, flee. Freydís hears the commotion and comes out to see the men retreating.

    She calls out, “Why run you away from such worthless creatures, stout men that ye are, when, as seems to me likely, you might slaughter them like so many cattle? Let me but have a weapon; I think I could fight better than any of you.” They give no heed to what she says. Freydis is eight months pregnant at the time, but this does not stop her from running out of her tent and grabbing the sword from her fallen brother in arms, Thorbrand, Snorri’s son. Then come the Skrælingjar upon her. She lets down her sark so that one breast is exposed, and strikes her breast with the sword, letting out a furious battle cry. At this the Skrælingjar are frightened and rush off to their boats, and flee away.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Harry Baldwin


    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða
     
    Probably not, as Huntington-Whitely's character and her unborn child both die horribly shortly thereafter. I stand by my assertion from the previous Mad Max post that George Miller pulled the ultimate bait & switch on feminists and their geldings.

    Oh, and I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of iSteve-ites wondering about his other 9 favorite movies of all time.

    Replies: @Vendetta, @keypusher, @Dave Pinsen

  18. Implicit in the review is the relationship between Fury Road’s feminism, its almost comical 98% Rotten Tomatoes score (that’s Selma territory!), and its rather anemic box office.

    • Replies: @Dain
    @keypusher

    I overlooked the feminism due to the insanely complex and awesome action sequences. About 90% of the movie is chase. The other Max's barely got over 50% if that. Best time at the movies in years.

  19. @Harry Baldwin
    I hadn’t foreseen its feminist ambitions—crystallized in the sight of one Wife heavily pregnant, flinging wide the door of the War Rig and flaunting her belly, like a bronze shield, at her enraged pursuers.

    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða

    Freydís is described as the half sister to Leif Erikson. Written after the Grœnlendinga saga in the thirteenth century, this story portrays Freydis as a fearless, and protective woman. She joins an expedition to Vinland led by Þorfinnr Karlsefni, but is only mentioned once in the Saga when her camp is attacked by the Red Skins, or the Skrælingjar. The natives sneak up on the Viking camp in the night and shoot what are believed to be catapults at the warriors. Many of the men, having never seen such weaponry, flee. Freydís hears the commotion and comes out to see the men retreating.

    She calls out, "Why run you away from such worthless creatures, stout men that ye are, when, as seems to me likely, you might slaughter them like so many cattle? Let me but have a weapon; I think I could fight better than any of you." They give no heed to what she says. Freydis is eight months pregnant at the time, but this does not stop her from running out of her tent and grabbing the sword from her fallen brother in arms, Thorbrand, Snorri's son. Then come the Skrælingjar upon her. She lets down her sark so that one breast is exposed, and strikes her breast with the sword, letting out a furious battle cry. At this the Skrælingjar are frightened and rush off to their boats, and flee away.
     

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða

    Probably not, as Huntington-Whitely’s character and her unborn child both die horribly shortly thereafter. I stand by my assertion from the previous Mad Max post that George Miller pulled the ultimate bait & switch on feminists and their geldings.

    Oh, and I’d like to add my voice to the chorus of iSteve-ites wondering about his other 9 favorite movies of all time.

    • Replies: @Vendetta
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I think it makes a good litmus test for sorting out the cretins on the alt right....if someone's in the camp that loudly BOYCOTTS THIS EVIL FEMINIST TRAVESTY, they're a moron.

    , @keypusher
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Uh, some of us have not seen the movie, and would like to.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Thanks for the spoiler.

  20. I personally would not ask Steve to try to assemble a list of his ten favorite movies. It is a pointless effort. There was a challenge going around on facebook recently to list the ten movies that were the most important to you. I tried to do so. You can immediately think of some favorite movies, but when the list is limited to as few as ten, you waste time trying to split hairs over whether, for example, “The Jerk” belongs on the list instead of “Dumb and Dumber,” when both are of equal excellence. And anyway, when you complete your list and others read it, it just becomes grounds for pointless internet debate– “How could you like that movie–are you kidding!?”, etc.

    But “Road Warrior” is definitely on my short list.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    "I personally would not ask Steve to try to assemble a list of his ten favorite movies."

    He dropped a lot of hints over the years.

    Lawrence of Arabia. Jackie Brown.

    , @Clyde
    @Harry Baldwin


    But “Road Warrior” is definitely on my short list.
     
    My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior. Alien. Blade Runner. Terminator. Total Recall came later. Minority Report was solid.

    Replies: @Anon, @Bob

  21. On the topic of sci-fi and action films:

    Simon Pegg criticises science-fiction and genre films for “dumbing down” cinema
    The Star Trek and Shaun of the Dead actor made the comments in this week’s edition of Radio Times


    Obviously I’m very much a self-confessed fan of science-fiction and genre cinema. But part of me looks at society as it is now and just thinks we’ve been infantilised by our own taste.”

    He went on: “Now we’re essentially all consuming very childish things – comic books, superheroes… Adults are watching this stuff, and taking it seriously!”

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-05-19/simon-pegg-criticises-science-fiction-and-genre-films-for-dumbing-down-cinema

    • Replies: @Dain
    @Cagey Beast

    This from the star of "Paul"?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    , @Busby
    @Cagey Beast

    Not this adult.

  22. @Harry Baldwin
    I personally would not ask Steve to try to assemble a list of his ten favorite movies. It is a pointless effort. There was a challenge going around on facebook recently to list the ten movies that were the most important to you. I tried to do so. You can immediately think of some favorite movies, but when the list is limited to as few as ten, you waste time trying to split hairs over whether, for example, "The Jerk" belongs on the list instead of "Dumb and Dumber," when both are of equal excellence. And anyway, when you complete your list and others read it, it just becomes grounds for pointless internet debate-- "How could you like that movie--are you kidding!?", etc.

    But "Road Warrior" is definitely on my short list.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Clyde

    “I personally would not ask Steve to try to assemble a list of his ten favorite movies.”

    He dropped a lot of hints over the years.

    Lawrence of Arabia. Jackie Brown.

  23. OT update on the biker brawl:

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/05/20/texas-biker-shootout-expected-to-shed-light-on-ontario-slaughter.html

    “Cook said that he believes members of the Cossacks club involved in Sunday’s shooting were emboldened by recent meetings with the Hells Angels in nearby states.”

    Cook is a Kansas City police detective who worked undercover with a biker gang opposed to the Bandidos.

    I mentioned that HA reached out to the Cossacks and it looks like I was right.

  24. @Anonymous
    (Road Warrior is easily in my top ten favorite movies of all time)

    What are the other nine?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @DWB

    How many “Fast and Furious” Paul Walker vehicles are there?

  25. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Harry Baldwin


    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða
     
    Probably not, as Huntington-Whitely's character and her unborn child both die horribly shortly thereafter. I stand by my assertion from the previous Mad Max post that George Miller pulled the ultimate bait & switch on feminists and their geldings.

    Oh, and I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of iSteve-ites wondering about his other 9 favorite movies of all time.

    Replies: @Vendetta, @keypusher, @Dave Pinsen

    I think it makes a good litmus test for sorting out the cretins on the alt right….if someone’s in the camp that loudly BOYCOTTS THIS EVIL FEMINIST TRAVESTY, they’re a moron.

  26. “Rosie Huntington-Whitely, feminist heroine”

    Most feminists look like manly butch dykes. I am not talking about the band wagoners who only identify themselves as “feminists” because they think it is the cool politically correct thing to say to score brownie points on liberal college campuses. I am talking about the real deal hardcore feminists dedicated to the cause. I am talking about the ones who would still self identify themselves as feminists even if the elites who run this country were right wing conservatives and feminism was seen as a radical fringe ideology and not considered mainstream.

  27. I want to know what are Steve’s top 10 favorite television shows of all time.

    • Replies: @justin
    @Jefferson

    All we know for sure is that 30 Rock, Don't Trust the B in Apartment 23, and Curb Your Enthusiasm are at the very top of the list.

  28. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Harry Baldwin


    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða
     
    Probably not, as Huntington-Whitely's character and her unborn child both die horribly shortly thereafter. I stand by my assertion from the previous Mad Max post that George Miller pulled the ultimate bait & switch on feminists and their geldings.

    Oh, and I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of iSteve-ites wondering about his other 9 favorite movies of all time.

    Replies: @Vendetta, @keypusher, @Dave Pinsen

    Uh, some of us have not seen the movie, and would like to.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @keypusher

    @Dave Pinsen

    I apologize for not posting a ***SPOILER ALERT***, but it's a Mad Max movie. Anyone can die at any time, and they probably will.

  29. @keypusher
    Implicit in the review is the relationship between Fury Road's feminism, its almost comical 98% Rotten Tomatoes score (that's Selma territory!), and its rather anemic box office.

    Replies: @Dain

    I overlooked the feminism due to the insanely complex and awesome action sequences. About 90% of the movie is chase. The other Max’s barely got over 50% if that. Best time at the movies in years.

  30. @Cagey Beast
    On the topic of sci-fi and action films:

    Simon Pegg criticises science-fiction and genre films for “dumbing down” cinema
    The Star Trek and Shaun of the Dead actor made the comments in this week’s edition of Radio Times

    ...
    Obviously I’m very much a self-confessed fan of science-fiction and genre cinema. But part of me looks at society as it is now and just thinks we’ve been infantilised by our own taste.”

    He went on: “Now we’re essentially all consuming very childish things – comic books, superheroes... Adults are watching this stuff, and taking it seriously!”
    ...
     

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-05-19/simon-pegg-criticises-science-fiction-and-genre-films-for-dumbing-down-cinema

    Replies: @Dain, @Busby

    This from the star of “Paul”?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Dain

    Yes and does he have a point? Are we getting dumbed down by all the sci-fi and fantasy stuff? I think we are.

  31. @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

    If you haven’t seen it yet, Dreams with Sharp Teeth, the documentary about Ellison, is pretty entertaining.

  32. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Harry Baldwin


    I wonder if this was inspired by Freydís Eiríksdóttir, described as the half sister to Leif Erikson in the Eiríks Saga Rauða
     
    Probably not, as Huntington-Whitely's character and her unborn child both die horribly shortly thereafter. I stand by my assertion from the previous Mad Max post that George Miller pulled the ultimate bait & switch on feminists and their geldings.

    Oh, and I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of iSteve-ites wondering about his other 9 favorite movies of all time.

    Replies: @Vendetta, @keypusher, @Dave Pinsen

    Thanks for the spoiler.

  33. @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

    In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    What always impressed me about The Humongous: There was a guy who wouldn’t let a little thing like the collapse of civilization get in the way of his workout routine.

  34. Thanks for the nice chick pic Steve. You could do more of those.

  35. Glad to see your review.Some comments/observations:

    Man of the people:

    Is Fury Road really as good as its 98 percent thumbs up rating among critics on Rotten Tomatoes? Or is its decent $44 million opening weekend and B+ rating by moviegoers more indicative?

    Glad to see that my B+ review links up with the common man’s take.Frankly, the critical reaction is almost comical.This a good movie, not a great one.

    Running Time: Too long.It should have been 90 minutes, not two hours.then again, bloat is in, and two hours almost counts as lean and mean these days.

    Theron vs Hardy on accents: I actually found Theron’s “screw-it, I’m just using my standard General American accent” less annoying than Hardy’s kinda-sorta-only when I feel like it attempt at some kind of Australian accent.Half-assed is always the worst way to go.

    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?

    Other takes on the film: Trevor Lynch had some good observations:

    Theron’s character is the focus of a media kerfuffle about her allegedly “badass” superfeminist character, but it is entirely baseless and manufactured to sell tickets.

    James Bond movies have a formula, and so does their advertising. Every few Bond films, we are told that this time Bond will be paired up with a “strong woman” — presumably unlike all the other Bond women. Bond aficionados laugh because of course few Bond women ever match Ursula Andress’ formidable heroine in the very first Bond movie, Dr. No.

    the feminist elements of this movie, such as they are, would only offend Oriental advocates of purdah and footbinding. Indeed, the society they rebel against is profoundly un-white and un-Western, despite the fact that it is ruled by and predominantly populated by whites.

    The Citadel — a set of towering rock formations — is the headquarters of cult leader Immortan Joe. Joe, like the despots of neighboring Gas Town and Bullet Farm, is hideously malformed and debauched. His government is a form of oriental hydraulic despotism — literally, for he hoards water and food and releases them in dribs and drabs to the starving wretches below.

    Another oriental trait of the Citadel is Joe’s harem. Healthy and fertile young women are in short supply, so naturally Joe monopolizes them.

    • Replies: @HEL
    @syonredux


    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?
     
    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women--because men like to look at attractive women.

    It's probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    Replies: @Stealth, @Ozymandias, @Cattle Guard, @unpc downunder

  36. @Steve Sailer
    @Cattle Guard

    I read the Harlan Ellison novella "A Boy and His Dog" when I was about 13. I can recall being struck at the time that the narrator, a Mad Max-like denizen of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, made a particular point that he needed to get to the primitive post-apocalyptic gym and work out regularly. In a dog-eat-dog world, you have to be physically on top of your game.

    Replies: @Cattle Guard, @Desiderius, @Dave Pinsen, @syonredux, @dsgntd_plyr

    A character in “The Walking Dead,” made a joke about working out to out run zombies that was probably the funniest thing to happen on that show.

  37. @Harry Baldwin
    I personally would not ask Steve to try to assemble a list of his ten favorite movies. It is a pointless effort. There was a challenge going around on facebook recently to list the ten movies that were the most important to you. I tried to do so. You can immediately think of some favorite movies, but when the list is limited to as few as ten, you waste time trying to split hairs over whether, for example, "The Jerk" belongs on the list instead of "Dumb and Dumber," when both are of equal excellence. And anyway, when you complete your list and others read it, it just becomes grounds for pointless internet debate-- "How could you like that movie--are you kidding!?", etc.

    But "Road Warrior" is definitely on my short list.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Clyde

    But “Road Warrior” is definitely on my short list.

    My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior. Alien. Blade Runner. Terminator. Total Recall came later. Minority Report was solid.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Clyde

    "My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior."

    Is RW science fiction? Isn't it neo-barbarian?

    , @Bob
    @Clyde

    Aliens was far superior.

  38. HEL says:

    I do enjoy, though obviously done unintentionally, how the movie embodies Paglia’s line about men being the only reason we aren’t living in caves to this day.

    Patriarchal Society: Sophisticated industrial society with art and culture, of a sort, where thousands are fed and maintained in spite of spectacularly harsh conditions.

    Matriarchal Society: Half a dozen withered, post-menopausal hags and a bag of seeds they do not know how to cultivate.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @HEL

    I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Also thought it might be a bit crude to bring it up. Now that you've mentioned it, though...

  39. Steve with the collapse of Chinese demand, Aussie Miners are not making a lot of money, in fact many of them are out of work as mines are closing.

  40. Has Australia really run out of charismatic leading men?

    Maybe.If charisma-vacuums like Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington are any indication….

  41. @Clyde
    @Harry Baldwin


    But “Road Warrior” is definitely on my short list.
     
    My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior. Alien. Blade Runner. Terminator. Total Recall came later. Minority Report was solid.

    Replies: @Anon, @Bob

    “My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior.”

    Is RW science fiction? Isn’t it neo-barbarian?

  42. @Dain
    @Cagey Beast

    This from the star of "Paul"?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    Yes and does he have a point? Are we getting dumbed down by all the sci-fi and fantasy stuff? I think we are.

  43. HEL says:
    @syonredux
    Glad to see your review.Some comments/observations:

    Man of the people:

    Is Fury Road really as good as its 98 percent thumbs up rating among critics on Rotten Tomatoes? Or is its decent $44 million opening weekend and B+ rating by moviegoers more indicative?
     
    Glad to see that my B+ review links up with the common man's take.Frankly, the critical reaction is almost comical.This a good movie, not a great one.


    Running Time: Too long.It should have been 90 minutes, not two hours.then again, bloat is in, and two hours almost counts as lean and mean these days.

    Theron vs Hardy on accents: I actually found Theron's "screw-it, I'm just using my standard General American accent" less annoying than Hardy's kinda-sorta-only when I feel like it attempt at some kind of Australian accent.Half-assed is always the worst way to go.

    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn't?


    Other takes on the film: Trevor Lynch had some good observations:

    Theron’s character is the focus of a media kerfuffle about her allegedly “badass” superfeminist character, but it is entirely baseless and manufactured to sell tickets.

    James Bond movies have a formula, and so does their advertising. Every few Bond films, we are told that this time Bond will be paired up with a “strong woman” — presumably unlike all the other Bond women. Bond aficionados laugh because of course few Bond women ever match Ursula Andress’ formidable heroine in the very first Bond movie, Dr. No.
     

    the feminist elements of this movie, such as they are, would only offend Oriental advocates of purdah and footbinding. Indeed, the society they rebel against is profoundly un-white and un-Western, despite the fact that it is ruled by and predominantly populated by whites.
     

    The Citadel — a set of towering rock formations — is the headquarters of cult leader Immortan Joe. Joe, like the despots of neighboring Gas Town and Bullet Farm, is hideously malformed and debauched. His government is a form of oriental hydraulic despotism — literally, for he hoards water and food and releases them in dribs and drabs to the starving wretches below.
     

    Another oriental trait of the Citadel is Joe’s harem. Healthy and fertile young women are in short supply, so naturally Joe monopolizes them.
     

    Replies: @HEL

    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?

    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women–because men like to look at attractive women.

    It’s probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @HEL

    You suggesting that Henrietta VIII was NOT a woman?

    , @Ozymandias
    @HEL

    "I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . ."

    I'm wondering who you might have penciled in for Abraham Lincoln. Halle Berry, perhaps?

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @Cattle Guard
    @HEL

    "It’s probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies."

    Considering traditional theater in some cultures had men playing all the female roles hundreds or thousands of years ago, we could consider this reparations. You can pitch this to movie studios and try to get funding. Henry VIII is an excellent place to start - you can also have sexy ladies playing all the wives. I can see a certain type of movie studio being very interested in such a project. Unless they've thought of it first and done it already...

    , @unpc downunder
    @HEL

    Americans are also the worst offenders at this, with Australians a close second.

    On British television the producers at least make some effort to avoid picking female actors purely based on looks, especially obvious Mills and Boon cover looks.

    Another annoying thing with mainstream US movies and TV programmes is that so many of the actresses have pushy, extroverted personalities, especially on those generic crime dramas.

    If every woman in America has a personality between that of an aggressive real estate agent and a female customs officer then feminism really has hit you guys hard.

  44. @HEL
    I do enjoy, though obviously done unintentionally, how the movie embodies Paglia's line about men being the only reason we aren't living in caves to this day.

    Patriarchal Society: Sophisticated industrial society with art and culture, of a sort, where thousands are fed and maintained in spite of spectacularly harsh conditions.

    Matriarchal Society: Half a dozen withered, post-menopausal hags and a bag of seeds they do not know how to cultivate.

    Replies: @Stealth

    I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Also thought it might be a bit crude to bring it up. Now that you’ve mentioned it, though…

  45. @HEL
    @syonredux


    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?
     
    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women--because men like to look at attractive women.

    It's probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    Replies: @Stealth, @Ozymandias, @Cattle Guard, @unpc downunder

    You suggesting that Henrietta VIII was NOT a woman?

  46. @Cagey Beast
    On the topic of sci-fi and action films:

    Simon Pegg criticises science-fiction and genre films for “dumbing down” cinema
    The Star Trek and Shaun of the Dead actor made the comments in this week’s edition of Radio Times

    ...
    Obviously I’m very much a self-confessed fan of science-fiction and genre cinema. But part of me looks at society as it is now and just thinks we’ve been infantilised by our own taste.”

    He went on: “Now we’re essentially all consuming very childish things – comic books, superheroes... Adults are watching this stuff, and taking it seriously!”
    ...
     

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-05-19/simon-pegg-criticises-science-fiction-and-genre-films-for-dumbing-down-cinema

    Replies: @Dain, @Busby

    Not this adult.

  47. @HEL
    @syonredux


    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?
     
    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women--because men like to look at attractive women.

    It's probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    Replies: @Stealth, @Ozymandias, @Cattle Guard, @unpc downunder

    “I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .”

    I’m wondering who you might have penciled in for Abraham Lincoln. Halle Berry, perhaps?

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Ozymandias


    I’m wondering who you might have penciled in for Abraham Lincoln. Halle Berry, perhaps?
     
    Pam Grier?
  48. @Anonymous
    A while ago, I was reading a book about Australia's past unique marsupial mega fauna - which is believed to have been largely wiped out by the Aborigines, and is only known through fossils.
    Apparently, the Australian climate is very precarious and geological records show that Australia has suffered from some pretty fearsome periodical droughts in the past, droughts which basically wiped everything out, and this cycle of droughts is ongoing.
    Combine this with the fact that the vast bulk of Australia is more or less uninhabitable as it is, strongly suggests that Australia should not go for a policy of population expansion, but rather restriction.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    That’s true, but on the other hand progress in solar panels could make energy very cheap in Australia and make it much more habitable.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    What could make Australia more habitable is modifying the inland geology to create some salty inland seas. This would modify the local climate and make it more suitable for human settlement. There must some lowland area somewhere which can be connected to the ocean by a channel, without disturbing mining operations a great deal. This would be the easiest bit. If not, just crisscross Australia's interior with channels and holes in the ground. This could be the national project that turns Australia into a promised land, not a Malthusian catastrophe waiting to happen, and may actually justify importing Asians, as national projects let people assimilate easier.

    I especially liked those interesting green houses which get their water from salt water. They use the concentrated heat of the environment to produce water for plants, and some of that vapor is released in proximity to the greenhouse. So, as long as you have energy, a dumping ground for salts and a pipeline full of saltwater, these greenhouses actually terraform (not really, I know) the environment around them.

    http://www.seawatergreenhouse.com/technology.html

    Edit: I have no idea why my link is in all caps.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer

  49. @HEL
    @syonredux


    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?
     
    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women--because men like to look at attractive women.

    It's probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    Replies: @Stealth, @Ozymandias, @Cattle Guard, @unpc downunder

    “It’s probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies.”

    Considering traditional theater in some cultures had men playing all the female roles hundreds or thousands of years ago, we could consider this reparations. You can pitch this to movie studios and try to get funding. Henry VIII is an excellent place to start – you can also have sexy ladies playing all the wives. I can see a certain type of movie studio being very interested in such a project. Unless they’ve thought of it first and done it already…

  50. • Replies: @Marissa
    @Anon

    He argues like a feminist. I can't stand old white nationalists. They're out of touch.

  51. Steve who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Jefferson


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Oooh, me! Pick me!

    Strictly film, not live theatrical performances.

    Scofield

    Guinness

    Oldman

    Bale

    Not ten but that's okay. I'm not Steve, either.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux

  52. @Jefferson
    I want to know what are Steve's top 10 favorite television shows of all time.

    Replies: @justin

    All we know for sure is that 30 Rock, Don’t Trust the B in Apartment 23, and Curb Your Enthusiasm are at the very top of the list.

  53. @keypusher
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Uh, some of us have not seen the movie, and would like to.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I apologize for not posting a ***SPOILER ALERT***, but it’s a Mad Max movie. Anyone can die at any time, and they probably will.

  54. @Ozymandias
    @HEL

    "I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . ."

    I'm wondering who you might have penciled in for Abraham Lincoln. Halle Berry, perhaps?

    Replies: @Romanian

    I’m wondering who you might have penciled in for Abraham Lincoln. Halle Berry, perhaps?

    Pam Grier?

  55. MQ says:

    Check out cantakerous leftist Eileen Jones very funny review of the movie in the far left newspaper In These Times — “Actually, Mad Max Fury Road Isn’t That Feminist and It Isn’t That Good Either”:

    http://inthesetimes.com/article/17960/actually-mad-max-fury-road-isnt-that-feminist

    Worth quoting at length:

    Regardless of where one stands on Ensler’s feminist cred, I couldn’t see any evidence in the film of her consciousness-raising sessions. The first full shot we get of the escaping women shows them standing tall against a gorgeous sun-blasted horizon, wearing white muslin bikinis and other resort-wear, and looking exactly like supermodels posing for a Vogue shoot in the deserts of Namibia. Rose Huntington-Whiteley plays Splendid, the lead figure among the escaping band. The credentials that secured her this role are presumably her career highs as a top model, achieving the rank of a Victoria’s Secret “Angel” and a number one rating on Maxim magazine’s “Hot List” for 2011.

    The other women are even less impressive performers. None can act in the least, but in addition to unmemorably pretty features, they have a broad spectrum of hair and skin colors, which is important when setting up a group Vogue shot in this enlightened age of ours.

    That no primitive patriarch in his right mind would ever choose these particular women as “breeders” to keep his colony alive is immediately apparent. One of them is so thin and pale as to be almost transparent and looks as if she’ll die in a photogenic way at any second. But she could step onto any catwalk during Fashion Week, no questions asked.

    Of course, Charlize Theron as Furiosa benefits from proximity to the supermodels who make her seem, by comparison, ferociously strong and a better actor than Meryl Streep. She’s tall enough to seem physically imposing, and she moves with athleticism. But she also brings with her the legacy of so many Dior perfume ads: the soft, tiny-nosed, blonde prettiness that her crew cut merely accentuates and that John Seale‘s lovely cinematography enshrines in innumerable close-ups. Just compare this example of onscreen feminism to Sigourney Weaver in Alien (1979). Weaver was six feet tall, odd, angular, smart and forceful, with highly individual, non-model looks and a remarkably ambitious actor’s resume, shot in unforgiving light and wearing a unisex worker’s uniform. In movies, we haven’t come a long way, baby.

    We must also grapple with the supposedly feminist plot elements of Fury Road. The women’s escape from The Citadel is a quest to reach the matriarchal paradise where Furiosa was born. They repeat as a comforting mantra, “We’re going to the Green Place!” It’s the last stand of Mother Nature where, apparently, judging by the natives we eventually meet, no men ever lived.

    It’s an extraordinary thing, in this day and age, that we still want to believe in a lot of essentializing Earth Mother nonsense about women. But apparently we do. In praising Fury Road, Eve Ensler says, “All the women in the film maintain their inherent woman-ness.”

    Whatever “inherent woman-ness” is, I was afraid to find out. I dreaded getting to the “Green Place.” Would everyone be doing yoga when we got there? And communicating softly and understandingly with each other? Or perhaps tending gardens all day, then doing fertility dances by the light of the moon?

  56. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    That's true, but on the other hand progress in solar panels could make energy very cheap in Australia and make it much more habitable.

    Replies: @Romanian

    What could make Australia more habitable is modifying the inland geology to create some salty inland seas. This would modify the local climate and make it more suitable for human settlement. There must some lowland area somewhere which can be connected to the ocean by a channel, without disturbing mining operations a great deal. This would be the easiest bit. If not, just crisscross Australia’s interior with channels and holes in the ground. This could be the national project that turns Australia into a promised land, not a Malthusian catastrophe waiting to happen, and may actually justify importing Asians, as national projects let people assimilate easier.

    I especially liked those interesting green houses which get their water from salt water. They use the concentrated heat of the environment to produce water for plants, and some of that vapor is released in proximity to the greenhouse. So, as long as you have energy, a dumping ground for salts and a pipeline full of saltwater, these greenhouses actually terraform (not really, I know) the environment around them.

    http://www.seawatergreenhouse.com/technology.html

    Edit: I have no idea why my link is in all caps.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    You're right, but large scale civil engineering and geoengineering projects are much less politically feasible these days. While solar power is very popular.

    Replies: @Romanian

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Romanian

    It doesn't show up in all caps.

    Replies: @Romanian

  57. @Anon
    http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/05/mad-max-fury-road/#more-55157

    Replies: @Marissa

    He argues like a feminist. I can’t stand old white nationalists. They’re out of touch.

  58. @Clyde
    @Harry Baldwin


    But “Road Warrior” is definitely on my short list.
     
    My four favorite sci-fi movies from that golden era. Road Warrior. Alien. Blade Runner. Terminator. Total Recall came later. Minority Report was solid.

    Replies: @Anon, @Bob

    Aliens was far superior.

  59. @Jefferson
    Steve who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?

    Replies: @Kylie

    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?

    Oooh, me! Pick me!

    Strictly film, not live theatrical performances.

    Scofield

    Guinness

    Oldman

    Bale

    Not ten but that’s okay. I’m not Steve, either.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Kylie

    Michael Caine

    Olivier

    Laughton

    James Mason

    Hoskins

    Connery

    , @syonredux
    @Kylie


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Surely worst British actors of all time would be more interesting. Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):


    Danny Dyer

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

  60. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    What could make Australia more habitable is modifying the inland geology to create some salty inland seas. This would modify the local climate and make it more suitable for human settlement. There must some lowland area somewhere which can be connected to the ocean by a channel, without disturbing mining operations a great deal. This would be the easiest bit. If not, just crisscross Australia's interior with channels and holes in the ground. This could be the national project that turns Australia into a promised land, not a Malthusian catastrophe waiting to happen, and may actually justify importing Asians, as national projects let people assimilate easier.

    I especially liked those interesting green houses which get their water from salt water. They use the concentrated heat of the environment to produce water for plants, and some of that vapor is released in proximity to the greenhouse. So, as long as you have energy, a dumping ground for salts and a pipeline full of saltwater, these greenhouses actually terraform (not really, I know) the environment around them.

    http://www.seawatergreenhouse.com/technology.html

    Edit: I have no idea why my link is in all caps.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer

    You’re right, but large scale civil engineering and geoengineering projects are much less politically feasible these days. While solar power is very popular.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    They aren't, when you have spotted owls to save. But a blasted furnace of a desert is not going to be on anyone's mind. That's why people keep converting Californian desert to golf resorts. Australia doesn't have that luxury, but, if it chooses to allocate the money, it might get a great deal out of it, including experience and possibly some new technology. I mean, mining is a big thing over there... anything that excavates faster is going to do a lot of good for the competitiveness of the industry.

  61. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    What could make Australia more habitable is modifying the inland geology to create some salty inland seas. This would modify the local climate and make it more suitable for human settlement. There must some lowland area somewhere which can be connected to the ocean by a channel, without disturbing mining operations a great deal. This would be the easiest bit. If not, just crisscross Australia's interior with channels and holes in the ground. This could be the national project that turns Australia into a promised land, not a Malthusian catastrophe waiting to happen, and may actually justify importing Asians, as national projects let people assimilate easier.

    I especially liked those interesting green houses which get their water from salt water. They use the concentrated heat of the environment to produce water for plants, and some of that vapor is released in proximity to the greenhouse. So, as long as you have energy, a dumping ground for salts and a pipeline full of saltwater, these greenhouses actually terraform (not really, I know) the environment around them.

    http://www.seawatergreenhouse.com/technology.html

    Edit: I have no idea why my link is in all caps.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer

    It doesn’t show up in all caps.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Steve Sailer

    It did, initially. You must have scared it straight by glancing at it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  62. @Kylie
    @Jefferson


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Oooh, me! Pick me!

    Strictly film, not live theatrical performances.

    Scofield

    Guinness

    Oldman

    Bale

    Not ten but that's okay. I'm not Steve, either.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux

    Michael Caine

    Olivier

    Laughton

    James Mason

    Hoskins

    Connery

  63. @HEL
    @syonredux


    Feminism: Why is this a feminist film, exactly? Is taking a stand against sex slavery/forced polygamy somehow radical and daring? For that matter, what does Theron do that Ripley and Sarah Connor didn’t?
     
    This latter point is what bugs me about the whole female action hero thing. They have been common for fucking decades and film critics are still acting like female action heroes are somehow noteworthy or innovative.

    The real truth, of course, is pretty anti-feminist. TV and movies include action stars who are attractive, lithe young women for the same reason they have astrophysicists, genius doctors and autistic detectives who are attractive, lithe young women--because men like to look at attractive women.

    It's probably only a matter of time before period pieces involving real historical figures are popoulated entirely by sexy ladies. I, for one, think Katrina Bowden would make a terrific Henry VIII. Or perhaps Alison Brie as Benjamin Franklin. The possibilities are endless . . .

    Replies: @Stealth, @Ozymandias, @Cattle Guard, @unpc downunder

    Americans are also the worst offenders at this, with Australians a close second.

    On British television the producers at least make some effort to avoid picking female actors purely based on looks, especially obvious Mills and Boon cover looks.

    Another annoying thing with mainstream US movies and TV programmes is that so many of the actresses have pushy, extroverted personalities, especially on those generic crime dramas.

    If every woman in America has a personality between that of an aggressive real estate agent and a female customs officer then feminism really has hit you guys hard.

  64. @Steve Sailer
    @Romanian

    It doesn't show up in all caps.

    Replies: @Romanian

    It did, initially. You must have scared it straight by glancing at it?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Romanian

    It did, initially. You must have scared it straight by glancing at it?

     

    If you edit your comment, it will show up on your device at first in caps. At least the links will. But we won't see it that way, and you won't if you refresh.
  65. @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    You're right, but large scale civil engineering and geoengineering projects are much less politically feasible these days. While solar power is very popular.

    Replies: @Romanian

    They aren’t, when you have spotted owls to save. But a blasted furnace of a desert is not going to be on anyone’s mind. That’s why people keep converting Californian desert to golf resorts. Australia doesn’t have that luxury, but, if it chooses to allocate the money, it might get a great deal out of it, including experience and possibly some new technology. I mean, mining is a big thing over there… anything that excavates faster is going to do a lot of good for the competitiveness of the industry.

  66. @Kylie
    @Jefferson


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Oooh, me! Pick me!

    Strictly film, not live theatrical performances.

    Scofield

    Guinness

    Oldman

    Bale

    Not ten but that's okay. I'm not Steve, either.

    Replies: @Anon, @syonredux

    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?

    Surely worst British actors of all time would be more interesting. Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):

    Danny Dyer

    • Replies: @Anon
    @syonredux

    Peter Sellers.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux


    Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):
     
    I was going to say Catherine Oxenberg in Lair of the White Worm, but just learned she's an American who did a good impression of a very bad British actress.

    Being of royal Serbian stock probably didn't hurt.

  67. What’s the complete list of your favorite films, Steve?

  68. @syonredux
    @Kylie


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Surely worst British actors of all time would be more interesting. Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):


    Danny Dyer

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Peter Sellers.

  69. @Romanian
    @Steve Sailer

    It did, initially. You must have scared it straight by glancing at it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It did, initially. You must have scared it straight by glancing at it?

    If you edit your comment, it will show up on your device at first in caps. At least the links will. But we won’t see it that way, and you won’t if you refresh.

  70. @syonredux
    @Kylie


    Steve, who do you think are the top 10 greatest British actors of all time? Would Tom Hardy make your list?
     
    Surely worst British actors of all time would be more interesting. Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):


    Danny Dyer

    Replies: @Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Getting my vote for worst British actor of all time (and this is against some pretty stiff competition):

    I was going to say Catherine Oxenberg in Lair of the White Worm, but just learned she’s an American who did a good impression of a very bad British actress.

    Being of royal Serbian stock probably didn’t hurt.

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