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For a few months, a major legacy media institution has been threatening to dox a pseudonymous Twitter account that gets mentioned around here now and then. The funny thing is that the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller, but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

So the doxxing could backfire by launching into the spotlight a charismatic figure who had been content to maintain a low profile.

 
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  1. Is Hakan Rotmwrt back???!?!?

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Batman


    Is Hakan Rotmwrt back???!?!?
     
    If only...
  2. It’s not the homosexual one is it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    BAP's identity is already widely known. It's Steve's publisher.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Danindc
    @Mike Tre

    We could use a little positivity out of you.

    Replies: @Zimriel

  3. but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    Now everyone wants to know who is the mystery stud. Let the doxxing begin.

    • Replies: @Bloated Boomer
    @Hypnotoad666

    Given Steve's lust for Caroline Ellison, I wouldn't get your hopes up for this 'stud'.

  4. the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
    @prosa123


    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    No, just the antivaxxers.

    Replies: @puttheforkdown, @Anon, @Pierre de Craon, @vinteuil

    , @Wokechoke
    @prosa123

    Or 90% of Rabbis…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtxL_sK-py0

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @prosa123



    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

     

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    I'm half that, and live in an attic. Those two dozen steps up several times a day keeps a fellow young. And, pardon the expression, grounded.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @prosa123



    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller
     
    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    Well, I always assumed that's what you are.
    , @Stan Adams
    @prosa123

    You wound me, sir. My house doesn't have a basement.

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a "Nazi" but it turned out that he didn't have any skeletons in his closet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

    , @Yancey Ward
    @prosa123

    I would be happy to have a basement to live in. I live under a rock that is under another rock.

    , @slumber_j
    @prosa123


    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    Only Rosie O'Donnell.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @prosa123

    I live in a van down by the river.


    https://i.imgflip.com/1xoem6.jpg

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @prosa123

    Nope, just 100% of the hasbarats here

  5. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    No, just the antivaxxers.

    • Replies: @puttheforkdown
    @Alexander Turok

    Shouldn't you be busy posting on DSL about how religion is le heckin fedora cringe? Not sure if your autistic takes are really exempting you from the "ugly basement dweller" stereotype.

    , @Anon
    @Alexander Turok

    put a sock in it, you weird vaxxmuppet.

    , @Pierre de Craon
    @Alexander Turok

    So, a gullible-and-proud-of-it conformist and a brownnose, too!

    , @vinteuil
    @Alexander Turok

    Gotta say - at a certain level, one has to admire the sheer faith of guys like Alexander Turok & RKU who will never, ever admit that they were wrong about the vaxx, no matter how much evidence accumulates proving them wrong.

  6. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Or 90% of Rabbis…

  7. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    I’m half that, and live in an attic. Those two dozen steps up several times a day keeps a fellow young. And, pardon the expression, grounded.

    • LOL: Liza, TWS
  8. But I thought “Steve Sailer” was your real name.

  9. The funny thing is that the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller, but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    So the doxxing could backfire by launching into the spotlight a charismatic figure who had been content to maintain a low profile.

    I wouldn’t be so sure (that it’s funny). I don’t think the goal of doxxing is necessarily to reduce the influence or effectiveness of the personality being doxxed (he may or may not like the limelight and may or may not thrive with the increased attention). The goal of doxxing seems to be to create such an antagonistic and troublesome environment where a few people might thrive, but the “normies” as such might have second thoughts about participating in the open media landscape. That’s going to put off a lot of successful and capable people from expressing open sympathy to dissident causes and pen in the latter into a nice, manageable ghetto (hence the frequent cries and accusations of “controlled opposition” toward those dissidents who operate in public).

    One of the reasons why I operate in the background (I often joke with my friends that I am a part of the “far right” equivalent to VCI*) and haven’t gone 100% public is for my wife and children (and also so that I can interact with certain people and institutions without burdening them with negative guilt-by-associations). I would relish the public confrontations with the Bolsheviks, but I will not subject my wife and children to the consequences.

    *VCI: Viet Cong Infrastructure (which, at one point, was the ostensible target of the CIA-run Phoenix program)

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    Yes. Asch's Third* and all that. However, I did recently see a creepy tweet saying that he wouldn't hire somebody who did not have a Facebook account, because clearly, if you do not have a Facebook account, you must be Uncle Ted.
    -----
    *Solomon Asch proved that there is valuable influence in even seemingly pointless dissent. He also found that about a third of people will disbelieve their lying eyes to get along.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @MGB, @mc23

  10. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
    @Anonymous

    Gravity. It's getting back up to the first floor that's tough.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    "How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?"

    Easy, the floor gives way from his excessive poundage.

    There was a cartoon from the 1930s of a boardwalk scene at a beach - people are running toward a large hole in the boardwalk, where a man had a "your weight for x cents" stand.

    The man is telling the assembling crowd: "biggest goddamn woman I ever saw"...

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    I knew a 400 lb man who used to hang out in his basement and eventually had a heart attack down there. The paramedics had a lot of trouble getting him out of the basement and the length of time it took to get him out probably caused his death.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @ydydy
    @Anonymous


    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?
     
    https://youtu.be/bLzDEwhwjlo?feature=shared
    , @Erik L
    @Anonymous

    He was only 200 when he went down there

    , @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous


    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?
     
    He goes into basement as a relatively svelte 220-250. He then Grubhubs his way to 400 and Voila!

    Replies: @David

    , @njguy73
    @Anonymous


    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?
     
    Battering ram.
    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anonymous

    Those cellar doors are probably the easiest way to get a real porker under the roof.

    Replies: @fish

  11. @Twinkie

    The funny thing is that the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller, but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    So the doxxing could backfire by launching into the spotlight a charismatic figure who had been content to maintain a low profile.
     
    I wouldn't be so sure (that it's funny). I don't think the goal of doxxing is necessarily to reduce the influence or effectiveness of the personality being doxxed (he may or may not like the limelight and may or may not thrive with the increased attention). The goal of doxxing seems to be to create such an antagonistic and troublesome environment where a few people might thrive, but the "normies" as such might have second thoughts about participating in the open media landscape. That's going to put off a lot of successful and capable people from expressing open sympathy to dissident causes and pen in the latter into a nice, manageable ghetto (hence the frequent cries and accusations of "controlled opposition" toward those dissidents who operate in public).

    One of the reasons why I operate in the background (I often joke with my friends that I am a part of the "far right" equivalent to VCI*) and haven't gone 100% public is for my wife and children (and also so that I can interact with certain people and institutions without burdening them with negative guilt-by-associations). I would relish the public confrontations with the Bolsheviks, but I will not subject my wife and children to the consequences.

    *VCI: Viet Cong Infrastructure (which, at one point, was the ostensible target of the CIA-run Phoenix program)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin

    Yes. Asch’s Third* and all that. However, I did recently see a creepy tweet saying that he wouldn’t hire somebody who did not have a Facebook account, because clearly, if you do not have a Facebook account, you must be Uncle Ted.
    —–
    *Solomon Asch proved that there is valuable influence in even seemingly pointless dissent. He also found that about a third of people will disbelieve their lying eyes to get along.

  12. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    It's not the homosexual one is it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Danindc

    BAP’s identity is already widely known. It’s Steve’s publisher.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    BAP’s name is in his Wikipedia page.

    It’s hard to stay anonymous these days, if you’re in the public eye at all. Look how Richard Hanania was outed as the name Richard Hoste, by a Disqus data leak.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/richard-hanania-white-supremacist-pseudonym-richard-hoste_n_64c93928e4b021e2f295e817

    Replies: @Not Raul

  13. @Hypnotoad666

    but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     
    Now everyone wants to know who is the mystery stud. Let the doxxing begin.

    Replies: @Bloated Boomer

    Given Steve’s lust for Caroline Ellison, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for this ‘stud’.

  14. I don’t have a Twitter account.

  15. Tom Brady?

    ROTFLMMFWAO

  16. How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?

    • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?
     
    https://www.media-marketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/na-internetu-niko-ne-zna-da-ste-pas.png


    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?

    Replies: @Anon Cubed, @Bill Jones

    , @Anonymous
    @Frau Katze

    Hello? He obviously knows who it is.

    , @res
    @Frau Katze

    See this thread or review Steve's comment history recently.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/that-was-fun/

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  17. I knew Tiny Duck was too good to be true.

  18. @Twinkie

    The funny thing is that the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller, but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    So the doxxing could backfire by launching into the spotlight a charismatic figure who had been content to maintain a low profile.
     
    I wouldn't be so sure (that it's funny). I don't think the goal of doxxing is necessarily to reduce the influence or effectiveness of the personality being doxxed (he may or may not like the limelight and may or may not thrive with the increased attention). The goal of doxxing seems to be to create such an antagonistic and troublesome environment where a few people might thrive, but the "normies" as such might have second thoughts about participating in the open media landscape. That's going to put off a lot of successful and capable people from expressing open sympathy to dissident causes and pen in the latter into a nice, manageable ghetto (hence the frequent cries and accusations of "controlled opposition" toward those dissidents who operate in public).

    One of the reasons why I operate in the background (I often joke with my friends that I am a part of the "far right" equivalent to VCI*) and haven't gone 100% public is for my wife and children (and also so that I can interact with certain people and institutions without burdening them with negative guilt-by-associations). I would relish the public confrontations with the Bolsheviks, but I will not subject my wife and children to the consequences.

    *VCI: Viet Cong Infrastructure (which, at one point, was the ostensible target of the CIA-run Phoenix program)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    • Agree: Twinkie, Goddard
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.
     
    I think I understand the second clause. What the heck does the first one mean?

    Replies: @MGB, @Bill Jones

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbtjaWXQVg

    Sorry cats, but when the spirit of James Joyce possesses you, somehow it dunnit really matter where it came from, it's just sort of there. Tacky, yes... but Oi loik it, too.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @JimDandy

    , @MGB
    @Harry Baldwin

    Nice one!

    , @mc23
    @Harry Baldwin

    Always liked Kipling's poem-

    "Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
    He travels the fastest who travels alone.

    White hands cling to the tightened rein,
    Slipping the spur from the booted heel,
    Tenderest voices cry " Turn again!"
    Red lips tarnish the scabbarded steel,
    High hopes faint on a warm hearth-stone--
    He travels the fastest who travels alone."

    Doxing is being thrust field. Sometimes it backfires.
    Some news pundits suggested Trump decided to throw his hat in the ring after being roasted by Obama


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E0bd5c3IuM

  19. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Well, I always assumed that’s what you are.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • LOL: Gordo
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  20. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    For a few months, a major legacy media institution has been threatening to dox a pseudonymous Twitter account

    Had the legacy media institution given an explanation for why they are trying to do that?

  21. @Frau Katze
    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @res

    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?

    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?

    • Thanks: Renard, SafeNow
    • LOL: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @Anon Cubed
    @Reg Cæsar

    Wild-ass guess that the pseudonym person attended one of those recent book events.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Reg Cæsar


    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?
     
    In the Biblical sense?
  22. … but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    Me, obviously.

  23. @Mike Tre
    It's not the homosexual one is it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Danindc

    We could use a little positivity out of you.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Zimriel
    @Danindc

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome
    Er... when these words show up in succession and we're not told about a family . . .

  24. Anonymous[815] • Disclaimer says:
    @Frau Katze
    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @res

    Hello? He obviously knows who it is.

  25. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    You wound me, sir. My house doesn’t have a basement.

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a “Nazi” but it turned out that he didn’t have any skeletons in his closet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Stan Adams


    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a “Nazi” but it turned out that he didn’t have any skeletons in his closet.
     
    Is he okay?

    How did he get doxxed?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @res
    @Stan Adams


    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently.
     
    Some discussion here.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1beufk7/whats_the_deal_with_stonetoss/
  26. @Frau Katze
    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @res

    See this thread or review Steve’s comment history recently.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/that-was-fun/

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @res

    OK, I found it. I didn’t read that post much as I was not at any of the live events.

    He mentions the name Lomez in a comment. So why go all mysterious here?

    Replies: @res

  27. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    I would be happy to have a basement to live in. I live under a rock that is under another rock.

    • LOL: Trinity, Liza
  28. Caitlyn Jenner?

  29. but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome

    Steve are you gay?

  30. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    The funny thing is that the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller, but instead is articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    These qualities sound commendable if you were gadding about with this chap in person, but do they count for anything in the online world?

    The three qualities that appear to matter the most when it comes to online quibbling are:

    1) Confidence – Never allow the fact that you may be completely wrong to dissuade you in the slightest.
    2) Shrillness – Much like modern music, online messages have to be LOUD, LOUD, LOUD.
    3) Persistence – No matter how silly, illogical, or just plain gaga your idea is, proclaiming it to be right over and over again will make it right.

    I suspect that right-wingers lose many of the online battles for hearts and minds, not because they are wrong, but rather, because they suffer from a fear of the possibility of looking ridiculous. Left-wingers abandoned any such sense of self-doubt long ago and are now free to think, say, or do anything they wish.

    The day right-wingers stop fretting over how they might appear to other people will be the day they finally beat the system.

  31. @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    BAP's identity is already widely known. It's Steve's publisher.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    BAP’s name is in his Wikipedia page.

    It’s hard to stay anonymous these days, if you’re in the public eye at all. Look how Richard Hanania was outed as the name Richard Hoste, by a Disqus data leak.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/richard-hanania-white-supremacist-pseudonym-richard-hoste_n_64c93928e4b021e2f295e817

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Frau Katze

    Does BAP have ties to the community and/or Peter Thiel?

    BAP’s Wikipedia page indicates that he knows Graeme Wood.

  32. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @MGB, @mc23

    He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.

    I think I understand the second clause. What the heck does the first one mean?

    • Replies: @MGB
    @Anonymous

    It means he was gay.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous


    What the heck does the first one mean?
     
    Your future is in hands other than yours.
  33. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan Adams
    @prosa123

    You wound me, sir. My house doesn't have a basement.

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a "Nazi" but it turned out that he didn't have any skeletons in his closet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a “Nazi” but it turned out that he didn’t have any skeletons in his closet.

    Is he okay?

    How did he get doxxed?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Anonymous

    From Wokepedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StoneToss


    In March 2024, Anonymous Comrades Collective and Late-Night Anti-Fascists claimed to have revealed the identity of StoneToss using leaked information from Gab, a social media website with a far-right userbase. According to the material they published, he is a Texan former security guard and IT professional, who had been putting significant effort into remaining anonymous. The group said that he had also created the RedPanels webcomic, described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a neo-Nazi comic and by Matt Binder of Mashable as "even more overtly pro-Nazi" than StoneToss. As of late March, media organizations reporting on the event have been indicating that they have not independently verified the results of the groups' research.

    StoneToss denied being a neo-Nazi and sought protection from Twitter's owner Elon Musk through individuals who had contacts with him. This was followed by a controversy after Twitter suspended multiple users who posted the author's alleged real name, with media taking special note of civil rights attorney and transgender rights activist Alejandra Caraballo's suspension. Rob Beschizza of Boing Boing commented that, while "no-one outside of extremely online spaces cares", the controversy was intensified via the Streisand effect. The episode was followed by renewed concerns about content moderation on Twitter under Musk, especially regarding content that promotes far-right ideas. After a few days, Twitter amended its privacy policy—which at the time expressly excluded real names from what it considers private information—to prohibit disclosure of others' real names. As this behavior had been previously tolerated when it came from right-wing accounts, critics took the move as evidence of the platform under Musk affording preferential treatment to that group of users.
     

    Replies: @Lurker

  34. Hopefully he won’t be doxxed anytime soon, though I seriously doubt he’s a big user of Social Media.

    Today (or yesterday) May 6, was HOF NYG-SF-NYM CF Willie Mays’s 93rd birthday.

    Regarding social media, may more and more be willing to have the spirit of “Say Hey” when it comes to noticing things which don’t always appear to be what they seem.

  35. @res
    @Frau Katze

    See this thread or review Steve's comment history recently.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/that-was-fun/

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    OK, I found it. I didn’t read that post much as I was not at any of the live events.

    He mentions the name Lomez in a comment. So why go all mysterious here?

    • Replies: @res
    @Frau Katze

    Doxing is a sensitive topic here. I had written a longer comment, but lost it when my browser tab crashed. If you are interested search Ron and Steve's comment history for "doxing".

  36. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Gravity. It’s getting back up to the first floor that’s tough.

    • Agree: International Jew
  37. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    “How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?”

    Easy, the floor gives way from his excessive poundage.

    There was a cartoon from the 1930s of a boardwalk scene at a beach – people are running toward a large hole in the boardwalk, where a man had a “your weight for x cents” stand.

    The man is telling the assembling crowd: “biggest goddamn woman I ever saw”…

  38. Men in closets should not throw stones at men in basements.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @clifford brown

    BAP is definitely not in the closet.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  39. @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    BAP’s name is in his Wikipedia page.

    It’s hard to stay anonymous these days, if you’re in the public eye at all. Look how Richard Hanania was outed as the name Richard Hoste, by a Disqus data leak.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/richard-hanania-white-supremacist-pseudonym-richard-hoste_n_64c93928e4b021e2f295e817

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Does BAP have ties to the community and/or Peter Thiel?

    BAP’s Wikipedia page indicates that he knows Graeme Wood.

  40. @clifford brown
    Men in closets should not throw stones at men in basements.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    BAP is definitely not in the closet.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Not Raul



    Men in closets should not throw stones at men in basements.
     
    BAP is definitely not in the closet.
     
    But Steve is. Literally.




    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1751115145387057554
  41. @Alexander Turok
    @prosa123


    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    No, just the antivaxxers.

    Replies: @puttheforkdown, @Anon, @Pierre de Craon, @vinteuil

    Shouldn’t you be busy posting on DSL about how religion is le heckin fedora cringe? Not sure if your autistic takes are really exempting you from the “ugly basement dweller” stereotype.

  42. articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    [MORE]

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow


    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. ... In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. ... The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. ...

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.
     
    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Anon, @theMann, @bomag

    , @ScarletNumber
    @SafeNow


    In the end, only kindness matters

    --Jewel Kilcher (1998)
     
    While there is a base-level of attractiveness that is needed, beyond that other qualities are much more important in a mate.

    If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife. So from my personal point of you, get an ugly girl to marry you.

    --Jimmy Soul (de Leon et al, 1963)
     
    , @SFG
    @SafeNow

    I suspect it wasn’t true even back then. I am old enough to remember the analog era, and it was considered crass for a man to say ‘looks’ and a woman to say ‘wealth’.

    But look at pre-woke movies and romance novels. The stars were cute, and Darcy and all his copies were very rich.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Anonymous
    @SafeNow

    Isn't it obviously a matter of degree? I would (and did in fact) take a good moderately attractive girl who actually cares for me over an evil hottie who hates my guts...but I'd also take the former over a hideously ugly saint.

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @SafeNow

    So what you are saying is your mom was right and your personality is more important than whatever Chad had who was getting all the gash.

    Nice try. Your mom was lying to you.

    , @Pop Warner
    @SafeNow

    Delusional take. It's looks first, especially face. Then height

  43. @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. … In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. … The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. …

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Almost Missouri

    Good question… are respondents sincere about their stated mate preferences. The way research psychologists try to get at this is by evaluating not only what people say, but also, what characteristics an actual married spouse possesses, as rated by so-called experts. However, a remaining roadblock is that unconscious preferences might be driving the response, and the respondent is not even aware of it.

    Anyway, even if the top-ranked item is kindness etc, I don’t mean to imply that males’ idea of an attachment is like womens’. One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64. I am not a research psychologist, but several years ago I undertook a bout of self-analysis in this area to try to understand this part of my past, so I did some reading. So, I know a bit about this, but was never a professional.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @HFR

    , @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, and playboy playmates just want a guy with a ‘good sense of humor’ who also, incidentally tend to have a private jet.

    , @theMann
    @Almost Missouri

    I was going to call double mega bullshit on this, but you did it so much more nicely.

    In any case, now the unfortunate reality for a pureblood is that any potential spouse also be a pureblood.

    , @bomag
    @Almost Missouri

    Agree.

    Suspect we are in the realm of what people tell researchers/pollsters, versus their actions: the revealed preference thing.

  44. Threatening to doxx is simply a legal way to threaten to activate the unstable voilent losers the left collects.

    Look at the kind of individuals that Kyle R. defended himself against, they are the deranged footsoldiers of the left.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Gordo


    Threatening to doxx is simply a legal way to threaten to activate the unstable violent losers the left collects.
     
    When the Left yaps about stochastic terrorism it's pure projection.

    And you're right about Rittenhouse, spiteful mutants from beginning to end. First the literally deranged, just out of a psychiatric hold pedo Jew who was throughout the day verbally demanding people shoot him, tried to take Rittenhouse's long gun away, to which there's generally only one tactical answer.

    Then a mob ... did all of them? Did any of them realize what had just happened? It was night after all, but then again they charged a guy who was in enough light to see he had a rifle.

    So the next Jew I judge from his father's physiognomy first hits him on edge with Antifa's favorite plausibly deniable lethal weapon, a big skateboard. Next a negro tries a drop kick but gets a face full of very intense muzzle blast and decided he has better things to do, and the authorities later ignore him. Then another idiot does a feigned surrender with gun in hand! and only loses his bicep in a miracle split second shot.

    Apparently that's enough thin the herd of the worst of them, and/or another body lying on the ground and a guy sitting on it in agony with plenty of blood convinces the dimmest to back off.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  45. Re: Met Gala

    Another proof, as if we needed one, showing how dim-witted our current ruling elites
    are. The NY Times seems convinced that NewYork City is in Africa, based on the 20
    photos from the Met Gala. That’s when I truly miss the WASP
    elites. They founded National Geographic in 1888, and whatever their faults,
    at least they could keep their continents straight.

  46. @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow


    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. ... In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. ... The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. ...

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.
     
    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Anon, @theMann, @bomag

    Good question… are respondents sincere about their stated mate preferences. The way research psychologists try to get at this is by evaluating not only what people say, but also, what characteristics an actual married spouse possesses, as rated by so-called experts. However, a remaining roadblock is that unconscious preferences might be driving the response, and the respondent is not even aware of it.

    Anyway, even if the top-ranked item is kindness etc, I don’t mean to imply that males’ idea of an attachment is like womens’. One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64. I am not a research psychologist, but several years ago I undertook a bout of self-analysis in this area to try to understand this part of my past, so I did some reading. So, I know a bit about this, but was never a professional.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @SafeNow


    One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64.
     
    The average (mean) number of lifetime sexual partners for American women (self-reported, so take it with a grain of salt) was 7, but the median was 2. That means a large majority of American women likely have 1-2 partners their whole lives, but there is a fraction at the top (or bottom) who have much greater numbers (10-20? More?) who skew the average. Note, however, this was data from some years back. The current numbers likely exceed these.

    Replies: @Trinity

    , @HFR
    @SafeNow

    "...ideal number of sexual partners...over next 30 years...For men it was 64."

    Two thoughts:
    Thank God for antibiotics.
    Research psychologists should equip themselves with a good supply of truth serum.

  47. @Alexander Turok
    @prosa123


    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    No, just the antivaxxers.

    Replies: @puttheforkdown, @Anon, @Pierre de Craon, @vinteuil

    put a sock in it, you weird vaxxmuppet.

  48. I do not worry about the government coming after me because of any comments I leave here. I am just not that important.

    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government but I do not worry about them either. They are just letting off steam. I actually largely agree with them about the increasingly tyrannical nature of the federal government. If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it. No one wants to hire an old man.

    Conservatives should be looking to move to a more conservative state. There is safety in numbers. Twenty years ago I would have laughed at the idea of the country breaking apart but there is a definite sorting process going on now as productive Whites flee the blue states.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @John Foster
    @Mark G.

    If I had the option, I would definitely move back to the Hoosier Nation.

    , @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government
     
    I - and others who critique you - don't think you are the enemy. We just think you are a hypocrite considering that you think libertarianism is a solution to everything - it's libertarianism for thee, gold-plated government health insurance me.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Polynikes

    , @Anonymous
    @Mark G.


    If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it.
     
    What job would you switch into if you were 27?

    Replies: @Mark G.

  49. @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @MGB, @mc23

    Sorry cats, but when the spirit of James Joyce possesses you, somehow it dunnit really matter where it came from, it’s just sort of there. Tacky, yes… but Oi loik it, too.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    This bit of commercial crap again? "the spirit of James Joyce?"

    Lazy.

    , @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Oh, and - 5299 comments? 465,300 words?

    That's quite something.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @JimDandy
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    There should be a "No thanks" button.

  50. @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    In the end, only kindness matters

    –Jewel Kilcher (1998)

    While there is a base-level of attractiveness that is needed, beyond that other qualities are much more important in a mate.

    If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife. So from my personal point of you, get an ugly girl to marry you.

    –Jimmy Soul (de Leon et al, 1963)

  51. @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    I suspect it wasn’t true even back then. I am old enough to remember the analog era, and it was considered crass for a man to say ‘looks’ and a woman to say ‘wealth’.

    But look at pre-woke movies and romance novels. The stars were cute, and Darcy and all his copies were very rich.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @SFG

    https://i.ibb.co/1qpgkzw/anna-nicole-smith-husband.jpg

  52. @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow


    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. ... In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. ... The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. ...

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.
     
    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Anon, @theMann, @bomag

    Yeah, and playboy playmates just want a guy with a ‘good sense of humor’ who also, incidentally tend to have a private jet.

    • LOL: fish
  53. Steve’s favorite Twitter account is Super 70s Sports, which covers all of pop culture of that era, not just sports. In real life the guy is a community college professor of sociology in the midwest. Anyway the other day he made the following post in which he compared Jim Presley, former Seattle Mariner third baseman to Jim Carrey, the actor. I made a response that implied that I couldn’t see the resemblance. Since he is a thin-skinned c-word, he blocked me, not realizing I have an alt account specifically to follow those who have blocked me.

    • Replies: @Whitey Whiteman III
    @ScarletNumber

    Looks like Jim Carrey had a baby with Christian Bale.

    , @Danindc
    @ScarletNumber

    The guy is a thin skinned p*ssy but in fairness Presley does look like Carrey in that pic.

  54. @Mark G.
    I do not worry about the government coming after me because of any comments I leave here. I am just not that important.

    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government but I do not worry about them either. They are just letting off steam. I actually largely agree with them about the increasingly tyrannical nature of the federal government. If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it. No one wants to hire an old man.

    Conservatives should be looking to move to a more conservative state. There is safety in numbers. Twenty years ago I would have laughed at the idea of the country breaking apart but there is a definite sorting process going on now as productive Whites flee the blue states.

    Replies: @John Foster, @Twinkie, @Anonymous

    If I had the option, I would definitely move back to the Hoosier Nation.

  55. @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow


    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. ... In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. ... The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. ...

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.
     
    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Anon, @theMann, @bomag

    I was going to call double mega bullshit on this, but you did it so much more nicely.

    In any case, now the unfortunate reality for a pureblood is that any potential spouse also be a pureblood.

  56. @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow


    when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. ... In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. ... The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. ...

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.
     
    Next question: are both sexes (and all cultures in all times) sincere about this?

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Anon, @theMann, @bomag

    Agree.

    Suspect we are in the realm of what people tell researchers/pollsters, versus their actions: the revealed preference thing.

  57. @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @MGB, @mc23

    Nice one!

  58. @Batman
    Is Hakan Rotmwrt back???!?!?

    Replies: @slumber_j

    Is Hakan Rotmwrt back???!?!?

    If only…

  59. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Only Rosie O’Donnell.

    • LOL: Bumpkin
  60. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I knew a 400 lb man who used to hang out in his basement and eventually had a heart attack down there. The paramedics had a lot of trouble getting him out of the basement and the length of time it took to get him out probably caused his death.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Inspired an episode of House.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q30LMm9ESB0

  61. @SafeNow
    @Almost Missouri

    Good question… are respondents sincere about their stated mate preferences. The way research psychologists try to get at this is by evaluating not only what people say, but also, what characteristics an actual married spouse possesses, as rated by so-called experts. However, a remaining roadblock is that unconscious preferences might be driving the response, and the respondent is not even aware of it.

    Anyway, even if the top-ranked item is kindness etc, I don’t mean to imply that males’ idea of an attachment is like womens’. One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64. I am not a research psychologist, but several years ago I undertook a bout of self-analysis in this area to try to understand this part of my past, so I did some reading. So, I know a bit about this, but was never a professional.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @HFR

    One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64.

    The average (mean) number of lifetime sexual partners for American women (self-reported, so take it with a grain of salt) was 7, but the median was 2. That means a large majority of American women likely have 1-2 partners their whole lives, but there is a fraction at the top (or bottom) who have much greater numbers (10-20? More?) who skew the average. Note, however, this was data from some years back. The current numbers likely exceed these.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Twinkie

    Men? Do prostitutes count because the average man is not bedding 64 DIFFERENT women in their life unless they are a celebrity of some sort like Mr. 20 thousand Wilt Chamberlain, rumors say Wilt was on the DL, yet another big male athlete MMA legend Jon Jones is rumored to be on the DL.


    Women LIE the other way. Much easier for the average woman to have sex. So you can damn sure bet the numbers women claim are ridiculously low whereas men lie about everything from their height, income, bank account, fighting or athletic prowess, penis size, men inflate anything and everything.

    Average man is probably more like 10-12.Not counting professionals.
    Average woman is probably like 7-10

  62. @Mark G.
    I do not worry about the government coming after me because of any comments I leave here. I am just not that important.

    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government but I do not worry about them either. They are just letting off steam. I actually largely agree with them about the increasingly tyrannical nature of the federal government. If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it. No one wants to hire an old man.

    Conservatives should be looking to move to a more conservative state. There is safety in numbers. Twenty years ago I would have laughed at the idea of the country breaking apart but there is a definite sorting process going on now as productive Whites flee the blue states.

    Replies: @John Foster, @Twinkie, @Anonymous

    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government

    I – and others who critique you – don’t think you are the enemy. We just think you are a hypocrite considering that you think libertarianism is a solution to everything – it’s libertarianism for thee, gold-plated government health insurance me.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You seem to confuse libertarianism and anarchism. An anarchist who works for the government is a hypocrite but a libertarian who works for the government may or may not be a hypocrite.

    Almost all libertarians believe having a military is a valid function of government but only if it is used for defensive purposes and not to attack other countries that never attacked us.

    You were the one for the Iraq war, not me. You were the one supporting the McCain-Romney warmonger types rather than the isolationist Ron Paul, not me. You are the one supporting our current proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine, not me. As for my medical insurance, it would be cheaper if medical costs were not being driven up by our government enforced medical cartel. Your family financially benefits from this medical cartel and you support it, not me.

    Also, I notice you stopped talking about my gold plated retirement plan after I told you I have been working for the last 12 years after my retirement date and not collecting my retirement money.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Polynikes
    @Twinkie

    This type of thinking is pervasive on the right and counterproductive. You want more conservatives in the belly of the beast. Ceding those grounds to leftists won't turn out any better than ceding the universities to the left.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  63. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    I live in a van down by the river.

    • LOL: ydydy
  64. OT: Are rats abandoning a sinking ship?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4645980-new-york-times-editor-media-trump-biden-2024/

    The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

    “So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

    Kahn predicted “Trump could win this election in a popular vote” and argued the Times should not shy away from covering issues that polling shows are favorable to Trump over Biden, such as immigration.

    “We become an instrument of the Biden campaign? We turn ourselves into Xinhua News Agency or Pravda and put out a stream of stuff that’s very, very favorable to them and only write negative stories about the other side?” he asked. “And that would accomplish — what?”

    • Replies: @res
    @Twinkie

    Thanks. You left out the LOL part.


    Kahn argued the average Times reader gets “a pretty well-rounded, fair portrait of Biden” and his legislative accomplishments.
     
    Longer version of the interview here.
    https://www.semafor.com/article/05/05/2024/joe-kahn-the-newsroom-is-not-a-safe-space
    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Twinkie

    There was a Politico article recently in a similar vein -- about some petty dispute between NYT and the WH about getting Biden to do an interview and attribution of some quote.

    I get the impression however that the NYT is just trying to pretend it has some shred of journalistic integrity by putting out the word that it's not a total hack for Biden.

    , @Hibernian
    @Twinkie

    IOW don't be too blatant about it because Trump may win.

  65. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government
     
    I - and others who critique you - don't think you are the enemy. We just think you are a hypocrite considering that you think libertarianism is a solution to everything - it's libertarianism for thee, gold-plated government health insurance me.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Polynikes

    You seem to confuse libertarianism and anarchism. An anarchist who works for the government is a hypocrite but a libertarian who works for the government may or may not be a hypocrite.

    Almost all libertarians believe having a military is a valid function of government but only if it is used for defensive purposes and not to attack other countries that never attacked us.

    You were the one for the Iraq war, not me. You were the one supporting the McCain-Romney warmonger types rather than the isolationist Ron Paul, not me. You are the one supporting our current proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine, not me. As for my medical insurance, it would be cheaper if medical costs were not being driven up by our government enforced medical cartel. Your family financially benefits from this medical cartel and you support it, not me.

    Also, I notice you stopped talking about my gold plated retirement plan after I told you I have been working for the last 12 years after my retirement date and not collecting my retirement money.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    Don't make up bullshit about others to obfuscate your hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  66. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

  67. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You seem to confuse libertarianism and anarchism. An anarchist who works for the government is a hypocrite but a libertarian who works for the government may or may not be a hypocrite.

    Almost all libertarians believe having a military is a valid function of government but only if it is used for defensive purposes and not to attack other countries that never attacked us.

    You were the one for the Iraq war, not me. You were the one supporting the McCain-Romney warmonger types rather than the isolationist Ron Paul, not me. You are the one supporting our current proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine, not me. As for my medical insurance, it would be cheaper if medical costs were not being driven up by our government enforced medical cartel. Your family financially benefits from this medical cartel and you support it, not me.

    Also, I notice you stopped talking about my gold plated retirement plan after I told you I have been working for the last 12 years after my retirement date and not collecting my retirement money.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Don’t make up bullshit about others to obfuscate your hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Don't make up bullshit about others"

    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here. For example, anyone can go back less than two weeks ago and see you telling me that you support U.S. military assistance for the Ukraine. You also said you were not a Ron Paul supporter. Therefore, unless you were a Obama supporter, you were a McCain-Romney neocon.

    You also told me then you supported the Iraq war because your hometown was attacked. I am assuming you mean New York. It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq, that attacked us.

    If we want to be serious about reducing military spending, we need to adopt an isolationist foreign policy. RFK Jr. said in a recent interview within 10 to 20 years interest payments on the national debt will equal all incoming tax revenues. All you can do is babble about how military accountants are useless paper shufflers instead of supporting ending the forever wars.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Twinkie

  68. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    He was only 200 when he went down there

    • LOL: ydydy
  69. Anonymous[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.
    I do not worry about the government coming after me because of any comments I leave here. I am just not that important.

    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government but I do not worry about them either. They are just letting off steam. I actually largely agree with them about the increasingly tyrannical nature of the federal government. If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it. No one wants to hire an old man.

    Conservatives should be looking to move to a more conservative state. There is safety in numbers. Twenty years ago I would have laughed at the idea of the country breaking apart but there is a definite sorting process going on now as productive Whites flee the blue states.

    Replies: @John Foster, @Twinkie, @Anonymous

    If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it.

    What job would you switch into if you were 27?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Anonymous

    "What job would you switch into if you were 27?"

    I would go into accounting for a small or medium sized business. A small town conservative White male going to work for the military may have been a good idea in 1981 but is not a good idea in 2024. Many younger such men now know this and the military is suffering recruiting shortages, both as soldiers and civilian workers. This is a different country now than it was in 1981 when I was young.

  70. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?
     
    https://www.media-marketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/na-internetu-niko-ne-zna-da-ste-pas.png


    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?

    Replies: @Anon Cubed, @Bill Jones

    Wild-ass guess that the pseudonym person attended one of those recent book events.

  71. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    Don't make up bullshit about others to obfuscate your hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “Don’t make up bullshit about others”

    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here. For example, anyone can go back less than two weeks ago and see you telling me that you support U.S. military assistance for the Ukraine. You also said you were not a Ron Paul supporter. Therefore, unless you were a Obama supporter, you were a McCain-Romney neocon.

    You also told me then you supported the Iraq war because your hometown was attacked. I am assuming you mean New York. It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq, that attacked us.

    If we want to be serious about reducing military spending, we need to adopt an isolationist foreign policy. RFK Jr. said in a recent interview within 10 to 20 years interest payments on the national debt will equal all incoming tax revenues. All you can do is babble about how military accountants are useless paper shufflers instead of supporting ending the forever wars.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Mark G.

    It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq

    It wasn't them, either, but, you're right--it wasn't Iraq.

    , @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here.
     
    No kidding. I urge others to read our respective comments if they have the time.

    You can distort what I wrote, present false choices (Ron Paul, Obama or McCain, nothing else!), take things out of context, or simply make up things I didn't write (or just make up things like "the medical cartel," which apparently cares so much about protecting the existing cartel members that it's importing a massive number of foreign competitors from India).

    But none of those - true or false - has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes "the free market" as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler - making payments to contractors - in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.

    You can cry about "the free market, the free market" for all of eternity, but you don't have any clue about what it is like to run a business, worry about profits versus losses, the possibilities of business failure, bankruptcy, not meeting payroll (not just your livelihood, but those of others to whom you are responsible as an employer) that keep those of us who run businesses up at night. You've been sheltered from price cutting, supply shortages, explosion of labor costs, a thousand other things than can sink those who run businesses by suckling on taxpayers' tit, with a gold-plated health insurance to boot.

    Don't lecture the rest of us who have had these genuine and up-close-and-personal experiences with "the free market" and "competition" - no one I've seen here seems to see you as "the enemy" for the self-flattering reasons you ascribe; some of us just don't care for the hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  72. @Gordo
    Threatening to doxx is simply a legal way to threaten to activate the unstable voilent losers the left collects.

    Look at the kind of individuals that Kyle R. defended himself against, they are the deranged footsoldiers of the left.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Threatening to doxx is simply a legal way to threaten to activate the unstable violent losers the left collects.

    When the Left yaps about stochastic terrorism it’s pure projection.

    And you’re right about Rittenhouse, spiteful mutants from beginning to end. First the literally deranged, just out of a psychiatric hold pedo Jew who was throughout the day verbally demanding people shoot him, tried to take Rittenhouse’s long gun away, to which there’s generally only one tactical answer.

    Then a mob … did all of them? Did any of them realize what had just happened? It was night after all, but then again they charged a guy who was in enough light to see he had a rifle.

    So the next Jew I judge from his father’s physiognomy first hits him on edge with Antifa’s favorite plausibly deniable lethal weapon, a big skateboard. Next a negro tries a drop kick but gets a face full of very intense muzzle blast and decided he has better things to do, and the authorities later ignore him. Then another idiot does a feigned surrender with gun in hand! and only loses his bicep in a miracle split second shot.

    Apparently that’s enough thin the herd of the worst of them, and/or another body lying on the ground and a guy sitting on it in agony with plenty of blood convinces the dimmest to back off.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @That Would Be Telling

    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  73. @Stan Adams
    @prosa123

    You wound me, sir. My house doesn't have a basement.

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a "Nazi" but it turned out that he didn't have any skeletons in his closet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @res

    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently.

    Some discussion here.

    What's the deal with stonetoss?
    byu/Medusa-Jellyfish inOutOfTheLoop

  74. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    He goes into basement as a relatively svelte 220-250. He then Grubhubs his way to 400 and Voila!

    • Replies: @David
    @kaganovitch

    Sometimes it goes the other way:


    Hermippus also relates another story about Pythagoras. For he says that when he was in Italy, he made a subterraneous apartment, and charged his mother to write an account of everything that took place, marking the time of each on a tablet, and then to send them down to him, until he came up again; and that his mother did so; and that Pythagoras came up again after a certain time, lean, and reduced to a skeleton; and that he came into the public assembly, and said that he had arrived from the shades below, and then he recited to them all that had happened during his absence.
     
  75. @Frau Katze
    @res

    OK, I found it. I didn’t read that post much as I was not at any of the live events.

    He mentions the name Lomez in a comment. So why go all mysterious here?

    Replies: @res

    Doxing is a sensitive topic here. I had written a longer comment, but lost it when my browser tab crashed. If you are interested search Ron and Steve’s comment history for “doxing”.

  76. @Twinkie
    @SafeNow


    One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64.
     
    The average (mean) number of lifetime sexual partners for American women (self-reported, so take it with a grain of salt) was 7, but the median was 2. That means a large majority of American women likely have 1-2 partners their whole lives, but there is a fraction at the top (or bottom) who have much greater numbers (10-20? More?) who skew the average. Note, however, this was data from some years back. The current numbers likely exceed these.

    Replies: @Trinity

    Men? Do prostitutes count because the average man is not bedding 64 DIFFERENT women in their life unless they are a celebrity of some sort like Mr. 20 thousand Wilt Chamberlain, rumors say Wilt was on the DL, yet another big male athlete MMA legend Jon Jones is rumored to be on the DL.

    Women LIE the other way. Much easier for the average woman to have sex. So you can damn sure bet the numbers women claim are ridiculously low whereas men lie about everything from their height, income, bank account, fighting or athletic prowess, penis size, men inflate anything and everything.

    Average man is probably more like 10-12.Not counting professionals.
    Average woman is probably like 7-10

  77. @Twinkie
    OT: Are rats abandoning a sinking ship?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4645980-new-york-times-editor-media-trump-biden-2024/

    The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

    “So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

    Kahn predicted “Trump could win this election in a popular vote” and argued the Times should not shy away from covering issues that polling shows are favorable to Trump over Biden, such as immigration.

    “We become an instrument of the Biden campaign? We turn ourselves into Xinhua News Agency or Pravda and put out a stream of stuff that’s very, very favorable to them and only write negative stories about the other side?” he asked. “And that would accomplish — what?”
     

    Replies: @res, @Hypnotoad666, @Hibernian

    Thanks. You left out the LOL part.

    Kahn argued the average Times reader gets “a pretty well-rounded, fair portrait of Biden” and his legislative accomplishments.

    Longer version of the interview here.
    https://www.semafor.com/article/05/05/2024/joe-kahn-the-newsroom-is-not-a-safe-space

  78. So are you saying Frank DeScushin is using his real photo?

  79. Hmmmm…

    The idea that someone is hiding a “secret” that you coyly suggest you may reveal (only $2.50 at newsstands everywhere!) is an old marketing ploy.

    Very odd and hypocritical (if this is true) of the NYT to threaten to “dox” someone’s email or social media handle when they are always chest beating about “protecting sources” and refusing to reveal identities of supposed sources.

    If you manage to reveal one of their “sources” it is a crime against the First Amendment. If they do it, they will claim it is their public duty to “prevent disinformation” etc.

    At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter much. What is said is said. By whom is not the big deal, usually.

  80. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    Isn’t it obviously a matter of degree? I would (and did in fact) take a good moderately attractive girl who actually cares for me over an evil hottie who hates my guts…but I’d also take the former over a hideously ugly saint.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Anonymous

    Wife (wandering about as if lost, holding assorted nicknacks in her hand): "I'm looking for an old bag."

    Husband: "Look in the mirror."

  81. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Don't make up bullshit about others"

    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here. For example, anyone can go back less than two weeks ago and see you telling me that you support U.S. military assistance for the Ukraine. You also said you were not a Ron Paul supporter. Therefore, unless you were a Obama supporter, you were a McCain-Romney neocon.

    You also told me then you supported the Iraq war because your hometown was attacked. I am assuming you mean New York. It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq, that attacked us.

    If we want to be serious about reducing military spending, we need to adopt an isolationist foreign policy. RFK Jr. said in a recent interview within 10 to 20 years interest payments on the national debt will equal all incoming tax revenues. All you can do is babble about how military accountants are useless paper shufflers instead of supporting ending the forever wars.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Twinkie

    It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq

    It wasn’t them, either, but, you’re right–it wasn’t Iraq.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  82. David says:
    @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous


    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?
     
    He goes into basement as a relatively svelte 220-250. He then Grubhubs his way to 400 and Voila!

    Replies: @David

    Sometimes it goes the other way:

    Hermippus also relates another story about Pythagoras. For he says that when he was in Italy, he made a subterraneous apartment, and charged his mother to write an account of everything that took place, marking the time of each on a tablet, and then to send them down to him, until he came up again; and that his mother did so; and that Pythagoras came up again after a certain time, lean, and reduced to a skeleton; and that he came into the public assembly, and said that he had arrived from the shades below, and then he recited to them all that had happened during his absence.

    • Thanks: Matthew Kelly
  83. @ScarletNumber
    Steve's favorite Twitter account is Super 70s Sports, which covers all of pop culture of that era, not just sports. In real life the guy is a community college professor of sociology in the midwest. Anyway the other day he made the following post in which he compared Jim Presley, former Seattle Mariner third baseman to Jim Carrey, the actor. I made a response that implied that I couldn't see the resemblance. Since he is a thin-skinned c-word, he blocked me, not realizing I have an alt account specifically to follow those who have blocked me.

    https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1785332485598957975

    Replies: @Whitey Whiteman III, @Danindc

    Looks like Jim Carrey had a baby with Christian Bale.

  84. @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    So what you are saying is your mom was right and your personality is more important than whatever Chad had who was getting all the gash.

    Nice try. Your mom was lying to you.

  85. @SafeNow

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome.
     

    Sounds like quite a guy, but when women are asked to rank the qualities of an ideal mate, the number-one item is not any of the above. Neither is monetary potential. In a similar vein, when men rank their preferred qualities in a woman, the top item is not, as one might guess, attractiveness. Now the really interesting part: The number-one item for both sexes is the same! Also, btw, the top-ranked item is the same across all cultures surveyed. Disclosure: The pair-bonding studies I am relying on are not up-to-date, and a heckuva lot has changed psychologically since the advent of social media, so maybe the answer is no longer correct.

    Kindness; agreeableness; warmth.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ScarletNumber, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Pop Warner

    Delusional take. It’s looks first, especially face. Then height

  86. @Anonymous
    @Stan Adams


    The Stonetoss guy was doxxed recently. Leftists were gloating about unmasking a “Nazi” but it turned out that he didn’t have any skeletons in his closet.
     
    Is he okay?

    How did he get doxxed?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    From Wokepedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StoneToss

    In March 2024, Anonymous Comrades Collective and Late-Night Anti-Fascists claimed to have revealed the identity of StoneToss using leaked information from Gab, a social media website with a far-right userbase. According to the material they published, he is a Texan former security guard and IT professional, who had been putting significant effort into remaining anonymous. The group said that he had also created the RedPanels webcomic, described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a neo-Nazi comic and by Matt Binder of Mashable as “even more overtly pro-Nazi” than StoneToss. As of late March, media organizations reporting on the event have been indicating that they have not independently verified the results of the groups’ research.

    StoneToss denied being a neo-Nazi and sought protection from Twitter’s owner Elon Musk through individuals who had contacts with him. This was followed by a controversy after Twitter suspended multiple users who posted the author’s alleged real name, with media taking special note of civil rights attorney and transgender rights activist Alejandra Caraballo’s suspension. Rob Beschizza of Boing Boing commented that, while “no-one outside of extremely online spaces cares”, the controversy was intensified via the Streisand effect. The episode was followed by renewed concerns about content moderation on Twitter under Musk, especially regarding content that promotes far-right ideas. After a few days, Twitter amended its privacy policy—which at the time expressly excluded real names from what it considers private information—to prohibit disclosure of others’ real names. As this behavior had been previously tolerated when it came from right-wing accounts, critics took the move as evidence of the platform under Musk affording preferential treatment to that group of users.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Stan Adams


    Anonymous Comrades Collective and Late-Night Anti-Fascists
     
    Faggots.
  87. Let me guess: Bronze Age Pervert?

  88. @prosa123
    the man behind the pseudonym isn’t some 400 pound basement dweller

    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok, @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Stan Adams, @Yancey Ward, @slumber_j, @Buzz Mohawk, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Nope, just 100% of the hasbarats here

  89. Sounds like Frank DeScushin of twitter.

  90. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Battering ram.

  91. @SafeNow
    @Almost Missouri

    Good question… are respondents sincere about their stated mate preferences. The way research psychologists try to get at this is by evaluating not only what people say, but also, what characteristics an actual married spouse possesses, as rated by so-called experts. However, a remaining roadblock is that unconscious preferences might be driving the response, and the respondent is not even aware of it.

    Anyway, even if the top-ranked item is kindness etc, I don’t mean to imply that males’ idea of an attachment is like womens’. One study asked young adults, What is the ideal number of sexual partners for you over the next 30 years. For women the average was 2. For men it was 64. I am not a research psychologist, but several years ago I undertook a bout of self-analysis in this area to try to understand this part of my past, so I did some reading. So, I know a bit about this, but was never a professional.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @HFR

    “…ideal number of sexual partners…over next 30 years…For men it was 64.”

    Two thoughts:
    Thank God for antibiotics.
    Research psychologists should equip themselves with a good supply of truth serum.

  92. Anonymous[343] • Disclaimer says:

    Democrats: Coalition of the Fringes

    Republicans: Concentration of the Cringes

    Republicans being mostly white doesn’t make them more pro-white but only more united in submitting to the Jews, most of whom hate whites.

  93. @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.
     
    I think I understand the second clause. What the heck does the first one mean?

    Replies: @MGB, @Bill Jones

    It means he was gay.

  94. Anon[588] • Disclaimer says:

    Ever notice that doxxing only seems to go one way? The left is obsessed with finding out who the people on the right are. But the right doesn’t give a damn who the people on the left are. This is because the left thinks people on the right are important and are obsessed with them, and the right thinks people on the left are unimportant and not worth bothering with.

    That pretty much sums up each side’s world view. The left thinks the right is important even when the left doesn’t want to admit it.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Disagree. Suggest it means that the left is enraged by contrary viewpoints and wants to injure people holding them. The 'right' consists mostly of people who do not wish to be harassed by the karenwaffe.

    Replies: @res

    , @Stripes Duncan
    @Anon


    Ever notice that doxxing only seems to go one way? The left is obsessed with finding out who the people on the right are. But the right doesn’t give a damn who the people on the left are. This is because the left thinks people on the right are important and are obsessed with them, and the right thinks people on the left are unimportant and not worth bothering with.
     
    No I think it's just that the leftists don't risk losing anything from doxxing. They won't become socially ostracized, won't lose their livelihoods and future prospects.
  95. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbtjaWXQVg

    Sorry cats, but when the spirit of James Joyce possesses you, somehow it dunnit really matter where it came from, it's just sort of there. Tacky, yes... but Oi loik it, too.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @JimDandy

    This bit of commercial crap again? “the spirit of James Joyce?”

    Lazy.

  96. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbtjaWXQVg

    Sorry cats, but when the spirit of James Joyce possesses you, somehow it dunnit really matter where it came from, it's just sort of there. Tacky, yes... but Oi loik it, too.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @JimDandy

    Oh, and – 5299 comments? 465,300 words?

    That’s quite something.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Oh, great. I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the... internet. I used to be a cult cartoonist, this is a lot worse. Since you have nothing better to do, I have a couple of homeless-youth cases up in Oregon who could stand someone taking a look in, would you mind?

    Yeah, James Joyce, muhfugga, whatchoo gonna do bout it? I just opened this at random from the copy of Finnegans Wake sitting right here on my desk:

    "the gleam of the glow of the shine of the sun through the dirth of the dearth on the blush of the brick of the viled ville of the Barnehulme hast dust turned to brown: these dyed to tartan him."

    Beat that, jackoff.

    You know, I actually rather like you a lot, dude, just don't vex me or hex me. If I say Taylor Swift has become Joycean -- a kind of outlandish claim when you think about it, but I am sort of an outlandish guy -- then at least do the courtesy of reading a bit of Joyce first: I would start with the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

    Replies: @vinteuil

  97. @Anon
    Ever notice that doxxing only seems to go one way? The left is obsessed with finding out who the people on the right are. But the right doesn't give a damn who the people on the left are. This is because the left thinks people on the right are important and are obsessed with them, and the right thinks people on the left are unimportant and not worth bothering with.

    That pretty much sums up each side's world view. The left thinks the right is important even when the left doesn't want to admit it.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Stripes Duncan

    Disagree. Suggest it means that the left is enraged by contrary viewpoints and wants to injure people holding them. The ‘right’ consists mostly of people who do not wish to be harassed by the karenwaffe.

    • Agree: mc23, Brutusale
    • LOL: Twinkie
    • Replies: @res
    @Art Deco


    karenwaffe
     
    Thanks.
  98. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbtjaWXQVg

    Sorry cats, but when the spirit of James Joyce possesses you, somehow it dunnit really matter where it came from, it's just sort of there. Tacky, yes... but Oi loik it, too.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @JimDandy

    There should be a “No thanks” button.

  99. @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Oh, and - 5299 comments? 465,300 words?

    That's quite something.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Oh, great. I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the… internet. I used to be a cult cartoonist, this is a lot worse. Since you have nothing better to do, I have a couple of homeless-youth cases up in Oregon who could stand someone taking a look in, would you mind?

    Yeah, James Joyce, muhfugga, whatchoo gonna do bout it? I just opened this at random from the copy of Finnegans Wake sitting right here on my desk:

    “the gleam of the glow of the shine of the sun through the dirth of the dearth on the blush of the brick of the viled ville of the Barnehulme hast dust turned to brown: these dyed to tartan him.”

    Beat that, jackoff.

    You know, I actually rather like you a lot, dude, just don’t vex me or hex me. If I say Taylor Swift has become Joycean — a kind of outlandish claim when you think about it, but I am sort of an outlandish guy — then at least do the courtesy of reading a bit of Joyce first: I would start with the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the… internet.
     
    Hey, it only takes a couple of seconds to check your comment & word count.

    I see that since my last, you've added another 12 posts/1700 words. What a busy bee you are!

    I am sort of an outlandish guy
     
    ...well, you play one on the internet...

    the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIS
     
    One of my favorite bits!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  100. @Twinkie
    OT: Are rats abandoning a sinking ship?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4645980-new-york-times-editor-media-trump-biden-2024/

    The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

    “So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

    Kahn predicted “Trump could win this election in a popular vote” and argued the Times should not shy away from covering issues that polling shows are favorable to Trump over Biden, such as immigration.

    “We become an instrument of the Biden campaign? We turn ourselves into Xinhua News Agency or Pravda and put out a stream of stuff that’s very, very favorable to them and only write negative stories about the other side?” he asked. “And that would accomplish — what?”
     

    Replies: @res, @Hypnotoad666, @Hibernian

    There was a Politico article recently in a similar vein — about some petty dispute between NYT and the WH about getting Biden to do an interview and attribution of some quote.

    I get the impression however that the NYT is just trying to pretend it has some shred of journalistic integrity by putting out the word that it’s not a total hack for Biden.

  101. @Anonymous
    @Mark G.


    If I were 27 instead of 67, I would switch jobs but it is a bit late for someone my age to do it.
     
    What job would you switch into if you were 27?

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “What job would you switch into if you were 27?”

    I would go into accounting for a small or medium sized business. A small town conservative White male going to work for the military may have been a good idea in 1981 but is not a good idea in 2024. Many younger such men now know this and the military is suffering recruiting shortages, both as soldiers and civilian workers. This is a different country now than it was in 1981 when I was young.

  102. @That Would Be Telling
    @Gordo


    Threatening to doxx is simply a legal way to threaten to activate the unstable violent losers the left collects.
     
    When the Left yaps about stochastic terrorism it's pure projection.

    And you're right about Rittenhouse, spiteful mutants from beginning to end. First the literally deranged, just out of a psychiatric hold pedo Jew who was throughout the day verbally demanding people shoot him, tried to take Rittenhouse's long gun away, to which there's generally only one tactical answer.

    Then a mob ... did all of them? Did any of them realize what had just happened? It was night after all, but then again they charged a guy who was in enough light to see he had a rifle.

    So the next Jew I judge from his father's physiognomy first hits him on edge with Antifa's favorite plausibly deniable lethal weapon, a big skateboard. Next a negro tries a drop kick but gets a face full of very intense muzzle blast and decided he has better things to do, and the authorities later ignore him. Then another idiot does a feigned surrender with gun in hand! and only loses his bicep in a miracle split second shot.

    Apparently that's enough thin the herd of the worst of them, and/or another body lying on the ground and a guy sitting on it in agony with plenty of blood convinces the dimmest to back off.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.
     
    All three of Rittenhouse's targets were of German stock. This is the state that produced Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, after all.

    For mixed names, in Dairyland or anywhere, it's hard to beat Wladziu Liberace. And for half-Mexicans, Ted Williams.

    Replies: @SafeNow

  103. @ScarletNumber
    Steve's favorite Twitter account is Super 70s Sports, which covers all of pop culture of that era, not just sports. In real life the guy is a community college professor of sociology in the midwest. Anyway the other day he made the following post in which he compared Jim Presley, former Seattle Mariner third baseman to Jim Carrey, the actor. I made a response that implied that I couldn't see the resemblance. Since he is a thin-skinned c-word, he blocked me, not realizing I have an alt account specifically to follow those who have blocked me.

    https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1785332485598957975

    Replies: @Whitey Whiteman III, @Danindc

    The guy is a thin skinned p*ssy but in fairness Presley does look like Carrey in that pic.

  104. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    There are some types commenting here who start talking like Timothy McVeigh and telling me I am the enemy when they find out I work for the federal government
     
    I - and others who critique you - don't think you are the enemy. We just think you are a hypocrite considering that you think libertarianism is a solution to everything - it's libertarianism for thee, gold-plated government health insurance me.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Polynikes

    This type of thinking is pervasive on the right and counterproductive. You want more conservatives in the belly of the beast. Ceding those grounds to leftists won’t turn out any better than ceding the universities to the left.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Polynikes


    You want more conservatives in the belly of the beast.
     
    He's not a conservative. He's a low level civilian employee of the DoD who preaches libertarianism to others. He's also a radical atheist kook who thinks Christianity is evil.
  105. @Alexander Turok
    @prosa123


    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    No, just the antivaxxers.

    Replies: @puttheforkdown, @Anon, @Pierre de Craon, @vinteuil

    So, a gullible-and-proud-of-it conformist and a brownnose, too!

  106. @Not Raul
    @clifford brown

    BAP is definitely not in the closet.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Men in closets should not throw stones at men in basements.

    BAP is definitely not in the closet.

    But Steve is. Literally.

    • LOL: Frau Katze, ydydy
  107. @Twinkie
    OT: Are rats abandoning a sinking ship?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4645980-new-york-times-editor-media-trump-biden-2024/

    The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

    “So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

    Kahn predicted “Trump could win this election in a popular vote” and argued the Times should not shy away from covering issues that polling shows are favorable to Trump over Biden, such as immigration.

    “We become an instrument of the Biden campaign? We turn ourselves into Xinhua News Agency or Pravda and put out a stream of stuff that’s very, very favorable to them and only write negative stories about the other side?” he asked. “And that would accomplish — what?”
     

    Replies: @res, @Hypnotoad666, @Hibernian

    IOW don’t be too blatant about it because Trump may win.

    • Agree: res
  108. @J.Ross
    @That Would Be Telling

    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.

    All three of Rittenhouse’s targets were of German stock. This is the state that produced Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, after all.

    For mixed names, in Dairyland or anywhere, it’s hard to beat Wladziu Liberace. And for half-Mexicans, Ted Williams.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ted Williams was Half-Mexican…I never knew that. Maybe that lineage accounts for the unfortunate bit of standoffishness, almost a chip on the shoulder, that seemed to be begging for an explanation. In any case, the greatest hitter who ever lived. Two world wars, expert fisherman. Bennett Cerf, when Williams was a guest on Whats My Line: “It’s an honor to be on the same stage as Ted Williams.” Sums it up.

  109. mc23 says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    “He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.”

    ― Francis Bacon

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @MGB, @mc23

    Always liked Kipling’s poem-

    “Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
    He travels the fastest who travels alone.

    White hands cling to the tightened rein,
    Slipping the spur from the booted heel,
    Tenderest voices cry ” Turn again!”
    Red lips tarnish the scabbarded steel,
    High hopes faint on a warm hearth-stone–
    He travels the fastest who travels alone.”

    Doxing is being thrust field. Sometimes it backfires.
    Some news pundits suggested Trump decided to throw his hat in the ring after being roasted by Obama

  110. @SFG
    @SafeNow

    I suspect it wasn’t true even back then. I am old enough to remember the analog era, and it was considered crass for a man to say ‘looks’ and a woman to say ‘wealth’.

    But look at pre-woke movies and romance novels. The stars were cute, and Darcy and all his copies were very rich.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  111. @Anonymous
    How does a 400 lb man make it into a basement?

    Replies: @Charlotte Allen, @Anonymous, @Anon, @ydydy, @Erik L, @kaganovitch, @njguy73, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Those cellar doors are probably the easiest way to get a real porker under the roof.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Yeah….and if you had to you could flood the cellar and float him out.

  112. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anonymous

    Those cellar doors are probably the easiest way to get a real porker under the roof.

    Replies: @fish

    Yeah….and if you had to you could flood the cellar and float him out.

  113. @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    Those were probably gentiles: as Rittenhouse himself illustrates, in Wisconsin, even the half-Mexicans have German names.
     
    All three of Rittenhouse's targets were of German stock. This is the state that produced Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, after all.

    For mixed names, in Dairyland or anywhere, it's hard to beat Wladziu Liberace. And for half-Mexicans, Ted Williams.

    Replies: @SafeNow

    Ted Williams was Half-Mexican…I never knew that. Maybe that lineage accounts for the unfortunate bit of standoffishness, almost a chip on the shoulder, that seemed to be begging for an explanation. In any case, the greatest hitter who ever lived. Two world wars, expert fisherman. Bennett Cerf, when Williams was a guest on Whats My Line: “It’s an honor to be on the same stage as Ted Williams.” Sums it up.

  114. @Anon
    Ever notice that doxxing only seems to go one way? The left is obsessed with finding out who the people on the right are. But the right doesn't give a damn who the people on the left are. This is because the left thinks people on the right are important and are obsessed with them, and the right thinks people on the left are unimportant and not worth bothering with.

    That pretty much sums up each side's world view. The left thinks the right is important even when the left doesn't want to admit it.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Stripes Duncan

    Ever notice that doxxing only seems to go one way? The left is obsessed with finding out who the people on the right are. But the right doesn’t give a damn who the people on the left are. This is because the left thinks people on the right are important and are obsessed with them, and the right thinks people on the left are unimportant and not worth bothering with.

    No I think it’s just that the leftists don’t risk losing anything from doxxing. They won’t become socially ostracized, won’t lose their livelihoods and future prospects.

  115. I think Steve is talking about this AP story.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-of-the-best-known-social-media-influencers-are-literal-unknowns-anonymity-provides-cover-when-they-peddle-disinformaton-a558bb2b

    It doesn’t mention specific accounts, much less expose their owners, but I narrowed down the candidates for Steve’s X-man to two after reading another article on the subject.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @tomv

    What's a hoot about the AP "unknowns" whine is the constant stream of bullshit they publish from
    "Government sources speaking on condition of anonymity".

  116. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Don't make up bullshit about others"

    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here. For example, anyone can go back less than two weeks ago and see you telling me that you support U.S. military assistance for the Ukraine. You also said you were not a Ron Paul supporter. Therefore, unless you were a Obama supporter, you were a McCain-Romney neocon.

    You also told me then you supported the Iraq war because your hometown was attacked. I am assuming you mean New York. It was Saudis with box cutters, not Iraq, that attacked us.

    If we want to be serious about reducing military spending, we need to adopt an isolationist foreign policy. RFK Jr. said in a recent interview within 10 to 20 years interest payments on the national debt will equal all incoming tax revenues. All you can do is babble about how military accountants are useless paper shufflers instead of supporting ending the forever wars.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Twinkie

    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here.

    No kidding. I urge others to read our respective comments if they have the time.

    You can distort what I wrote, present false choices (Ron Paul, Obama or McCain, nothing else!), take things out of context, or simply make up things I didn’t write (or just make up things like “the medical cartel,” which apparently cares so much about protecting the existing cartel members that it’s importing a massive number of foreign competitors from India).

    But none of those – true or false – has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes “the free market” as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler – making payments to contractors – in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.

    You can cry about “the free market, the free market” for all of eternity, but you don’t have any clue about what it is like to run a business, worry about profits versus losses, the possibilities of business failure, bankruptcy, not meeting payroll (not just your livelihood, but those of others to whom you are responsible as an employer) that keep those of us who run businesses up at night. You’ve been sheltered from price cutting, supply shortages, explosion of labor costs, a thousand other things than can sink those who run businesses by suckling on taxpayers’ tit, with a gold-plated health insurance to boot.

    Don’t lecture the rest of us who have had these genuine and up-close-and-personal experiences with “the free market” and “competition” – no one I’ve seen here seems to see you as “the enemy” for the self-flattering reasons you ascribe; some of us just don’t care for the hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "false choices"

    Ok, who did you vote for?

    "paper shuffler"

    So you do not care if the soldiers have heat, water and lights in the buildings they work and live in. Got it. Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq, a country that never attacked us.

    "bloated"

    What really bloats the military is acting like Putin is a threat to this country, as you do. We have no major foreign threats and could cut military spending by half. We could have started by ending military assistance to the Ukraine. You are for continuing to prop up the corrupt Zelensky regime.

    "gold-plated health insurance"

    Once again, I notice you stopped talking about my gold-plated retirement plan, since I told you my retirement date was 12 years ago and I have not been collecting my retirement money for 12 years and kept working instead.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  117. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    Twinkie, our comment histories are available to view here.
     
    No kidding. I urge others to read our respective comments if they have the time.

    You can distort what I wrote, present false choices (Ron Paul, Obama or McCain, nothing else!), take things out of context, or simply make up things I didn't write (or just make up things like "the medical cartel," which apparently cares so much about protecting the existing cartel members that it's importing a massive number of foreign competitors from India).

    But none of those - true or false - has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes "the free market" as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler - making payments to contractors - in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.

    You can cry about "the free market, the free market" for all of eternity, but you don't have any clue about what it is like to run a business, worry about profits versus losses, the possibilities of business failure, bankruptcy, not meeting payroll (not just your livelihood, but those of others to whom you are responsible as an employer) that keep those of us who run businesses up at night. You've been sheltered from price cutting, supply shortages, explosion of labor costs, a thousand other things than can sink those who run businesses by suckling on taxpayers' tit, with a gold-plated health insurance to boot.

    Don't lecture the rest of us who have had these genuine and up-close-and-personal experiences with "the free market" and "competition" - no one I've seen here seems to see you as "the enemy" for the self-flattering reasons you ascribe; some of us just don't care for the hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “false choices”

    Ok, who did you vote for?

    “paper shuffler”

    So you do not care if the soldiers have heat, water and lights in the buildings they work and live in. Got it. Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq, a country that never attacked us.

    “bloated”

    What really bloats the military is acting like Putin is a threat to this country, as you do. We have no major foreign threats and could cut military spending by half. We could have started by ending military assistance to the Ukraine. You are for continuing to prop up the corrupt Zelensky regime.

    “gold-plated health insurance”

    Once again, I notice you stopped talking about my gold-plated retirement plan, since I told you my retirement date was 12 years ago and I have not been collecting my retirement money for 12 years and kept working instead.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    When was the last time you stayed up worrying about making payroll for your employees and whether your business was going to make a profit or be in the red?

    Again:


    But none of those – true or false – has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes “the free market” as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler – making payments to contractors – in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.
     
    You have never had to "eat what you kill" as the saying goes for those of us who have had to compete for a living in the marketplace.

    Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq
     
    You clearly don't know my personal history.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  118. https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem


    https://christopherrufo.com/p/signals-katherine-maher-problem

    So what does all this mean for American users—including conservative dissidents—who believe that Signal is a secure application for communication? It means that they should be cautious. “Maher’s presence on the board of Signal is alarming,” says national security analyst J. Michael Waller. “It makes sense that a Color Revolutionary like Maher would have interest in Signal as a secure means of communicating,” he says, but her past support for censorship and apparent intelligence connections raise doubts about Signal’s trustworthiness.

    [MORE]

  119. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    I knew a 400 lb man who used to hang out in his basement and eventually had a heart attack down there. The paramedics had a lot of trouble getting him out of the basement and the length of time it took to get him out probably caused his death.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Inspired an episode of House.

  120. @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Disagree. Suggest it means that the left is enraged by contrary viewpoints and wants to injure people holding them. The 'right' consists mostly of people who do not wish to be harassed by the karenwaffe.

    Replies: @res

    karenwaffe

    Thanks.

  121. @Danindc
    @Mike Tre

    We could use a little positivity out of you.

    Replies: @Zimriel

    articulate, cultured, athletic, a sharp dresser, and movie star handsome
    Er… when these words show up in succession and we’re not told about a family . . .

  122. @Anonymous
    @SafeNow

    Isn't it obviously a matter of degree? I would (and did in fact) take a good moderately attractive girl who actually cares for me over an evil hottie who hates my guts...but I'd also take the former over a hideously ugly saint.

    Replies: @Prester John

    Wife (wandering about as if lost, holding assorted nicknacks in her hand): “I’m looking for an old bag.”

    Husband: “Look in the mirror.”

  123. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Oh, great. I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the... internet. I used to be a cult cartoonist, this is a lot worse. Since you have nothing better to do, I have a couple of homeless-youth cases up in Oregon who could stand someone taking a look in, would you mind?

    Yeah, James Joyce, muhfugga, whatchoo gonna do bout it? I just opened this at random from the copy of Finnegans Wake sitting right here on my desk:

    "the gleam of the glow of the shine of the sun through the dirth of the dearth on the blush of the brick of the viled ville of the Barnehulme hast dust turned to brown: these dyed to tartan him."

    Beat that, jackoff.

    You know, I actually rather like you a lot, dude, just don't vex me or hex me. If I say Taylor Swift has become Joycean -- a kind of outlandish claim when you think about it, but I am sort of an outlandish guy -- then at least do the courtesy of reading a bit of Joyce first: I would start with the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

    Replies: @vinteuil

    I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the… internet.

    Hey, it only takes a couple of seconds to check your comment & word count.

    I see that since my last, you’ve added another 12 posts/1700 words. What a busy bee you are!

    I am sort of an outlandish guy

    …well, you play one on the internet…

    the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIS

    One of my favorite bits!

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    "One of my favorite bits!"

    Alors, nous sommes d'ac!

    Just changing the subject a bit, since you really are one of my favorite folks around here, and I get that a bit of a dust-up de temps-en-temps is good for the blood, but why be combative for longer than is agreeable, yes?

    You know who I really love is Carole King. I mean, think about her career: she started writing songs at a really young age, got married/divorced really young too (yep, got THAT out of the way), and by the time she was only like 25 she already had something like a dozen Billboard Top Ten songs on the charts. Set for life. It's just crazy. So then she goes into this sort of wilderness period, then quits the Brill Building and then somehow pops up again in Laurel Canyon, besties with Joni and Neil (don't get me started) with a giant hit record of her own -- and she's still not even fucking 30 yet!

    God bless her she still seems to be alive and kicking, age north of 80 I reckon, hasn't had a hit record in decades, but who fucking cares: she wrote "Do the Locomotion" for crying out loud.

    Plus without even meaning to, she also accidentally inspired an avant-garde opera. How many people have that sort of bragging rights?

    Replies: @vinteuil

  124. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "false choices"

    Ok, who did you vote for?

    "paper shuffler"

    So you do not care if the soldiers have heat, water and lights in the buildings they work and live in. Got it. Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq, a country that never attacked us.

    "bloated"

    What really bloats the military is acting like Putin is a threat to this country, as you do. We have no major foreign threats and could cut military spending by half. We could have started by ending military assistance to the Ukraine. You are for continuing to prop up the corrupt Zelensky regime.

    "gold-plated health insurance"

    Once again, I notice you stopped talking about my gold-plated retirement plan, since I told you my retirement date was 12 years ago and I have not been collecting my retirement money for 12 years and kept working instead.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    When was the last time you stayed up worrying about making payroll for your employees and whether your business was going to make a profit or be in the red?

    Again:

    But none of those – true or false – has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes “the free market” as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler – making payments to contractors – in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.

    You have never had to “eat what you kill” as the saying goes for those of us who have had to compete for a living in the marketplace.

    Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq

    You clearly don’t know my personal history.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You seem to be under a misimpression that the only people doing something worthwhile are small business owners. Last week I discovered a 75 thousand dollar double payment to a vendor and started the process of getting the extra money collected back. I am sure the taxpayers would consider that worthwhile and not "paper shuffling".

    All this talk of meeting a payroll is just you engaging in obfuscation and bringing up something irrelevant when it comes to the question of who wants to expand government, me or a big government neocon like you. You did not answer my question who you supported if it was not Ron Paul, the only isolationist Republican in the race that year.

    No, you do not care about our soldiers. You acknowledge you supported the Iraq war. This meant you supported sending others off to die. You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome. Now you want to fight the Russians down to the last Ukrainian. Stop being such a little yellow coward and go fight the Russians yourself if you are advocating a war against them.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  125. @Alexander Turok
    @prosa123


    Unlike 90% of the people who comment here.
     
    No, just the antivaxxers.

    Replies: @puttheforkdown, @Anon, @Pierre de Craon, @vinteuil

    Gotta say – at a certain level, one has to admire the sheer faith of guys like Alexander Turok & RKU who will never, ever admit that they were wrong about the vaxx, no matter how much evidence accumulates proving them wrong.

  126. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    When was the last time you stayed up worrying about making payroll for your employees and whether your business was going to make a profit or be in the red?

    Again:


    But none of those – true or false – has anything to do with the fact that you are a libertarian who proposes “the free market” as the solution to all that ails the society all the while having drawn your livelihood from being a paper shuffler – making payments to contractors – in one of the most bloated government bureaucracies known to man, the US DoD.
     
    You have never had to "eat what you kill" as the saying goes for those of us who have had to compete for a living in the marketplace.

    Also, you did not care if they are shot and killed since you supported sending them to Iraq
     
    You clearly don't know my personal history.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    You seem to be under a misimpression that the only people doing something worthwhile are small business owners. Last week I discovered a 75 thousand dollar double payment to a vendor and started the process of getting the extra money collected back. I am sure the taxpayers would consider that worthwhile and not “paper shuffling”.

    All this talk of meeting a payroll is just you engaging in obfuscation and bringing up something irrelevant when it comes to the question of who wants to expand government, me or a big government neocon like you. You did not answer my question who you supported if it was not Ron Paul, the only isolationist Republican in the race that year.

    No, you do not care about our soldiers. You acknowledge you supported the Iraq war. This meant you supported sending others off to die. You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome. Now you want to fight the Russians down to the last Ukrainian. Stop being such a little yellow coward and go fight the Russians yourself if you are advocating a war against them.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    All this talk of meeting a payroll...
     
    Thanks for confirming that you have never had to compete in the marketplace and have been sheltered by the taxpayers' largesse all your life all the while preaching "competing in the free market" to the rest of us.

    You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome.
     
    You have no idea what I did in the aftermath of 9/11, do you? Why should you, you are some unhinged "libertarian" low level paper shuffler at the DoD.

    Here's a little clue. I carried a modified Browning Hi-Power in the Middle East (actually started with an H&K USP45, but happened to run into a cousin - he was a helo pilot back then - who was flying the SEALs and gave him my beast of a USP, which he carried onboard the rest of that tour).

    Before I transitioned to CT, I worked on TCOs (got to know Murtha's district very well), but something happened c. 2001 that changed everyone's focus.

    You probably have no idea what I am talking about, so I'll give a bit more (but that's it, okay?) - I specialized in operating in non-permissive environments. And long before all that, I wore a black beret and carried a K1A for an allied country.


    a little yellow coward
     
    I think this says all about what kind of a person you are.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  127. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You seem to be under a misimpression that the only people doing something worthwhile are small business owners. Last week I discovered a 75 thousand dollar double payment to a vendor and started the process of getting the extra money collected back. I am sure the taxpayers would consider that worthwhile and not "paper shuffling".

    All this talk of meeting a payroll is just you engaging in obfuscation and bringing up something irrelevant when it comes to the question of who wants to expand government, me or a big government neocon like you. You did not answer my question who you supported if it was not Ron Paul, the only isolationist Republican in the race that year.

    No, you do not care about our soldiers. You acknowledge you supported the Iraq war. This meant you supported sending others off to die. You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome. Now you want to fight the Russians down to the last Ukrainian. Stop being such a little yellow coward and go fight the Russians yourself if you are advocating a war against them.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    All this talk of meeting a payroll…

    Thanks for confirming that you have never had to compete in the marketplace and have been sheltered by the taxpayers’ largesse all your life all the while preaching “competing in the free market” to the rest of us.

    You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome.

    You have no idea what I did in the aftermath of 9/11, do you? Why should you, you are some unhinged “libertarian” low level paper shuffler at the DoD.

    Here’s a little clue. I carried a modified Browning Hi-Power in the Middle East (actually started with an H&K USP45, but happened to run into a cousin – he was a helo pilot back then – who was flying the SEALs and gave him my beast of a USP, which he carried onboard the rest of that tour).

    Before I transitioned to CT, I worked on TCOs (got to know Murtha’s district very well), but something happened c. 2001 that changed everyone’s focus.

    You probably have no idea what I am talking about, so I’ll give a bit more (but that’s it, okay?) – I specialized in operating in non-permissive environments. And long before all that, I wore a black beret and carried a K1A for an allied country.

    a little yellow coward

    I think this says all about what kind of a person you are.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    Great. Since you have so much experience you will be useful fighting the Russians. People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.

    You are a dimwit. You supported an Iraq war everyone now realizes was a mistake. Trump said it was a mistake in 2016 and that is partly why he got the presidency. People were rejecting you neocons. Did you support the war just so you could go over there and strut around and play soldier boy? That is pretty pathetic.

    I talked to returning soldiers. Most of them were disillusioned. They thought they would be treated as liberators but found out most of the locals hated them. They are Muslims over there and want to stay Muslims. They ran us out of Afghanistan. Iraq now has a pro-Iran government. Way to go, Twinkie, with your previous astute judgement in supporting the Iraq war! We definitely should follow your foreign policy advice when it comes to the Ukraine war. It just looks like we are losing our proxy war there, right? Victory is just around the corner. Now, when will you will heading over there?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie

  128. @Polynikes
    @Twinkie

    This type of thinking is pervasive on the right and counterproductive. You want more conservatives in the belly of the beast. Ceding those grounds to leftists won't turn out any better than ceding the universities to the left.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You want more conservatives in the belly of the beast.

    He’s not a conservative. He’s a low level civilian employee of the DoD who preaches libertarianism to others. He’s also a radical atheist kook who thinks Christianity is evil.

  129. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    All this talk of meeting a payroll...
     
    Thanks for confirming that you have never had to compete in the marketplace and have been sheltered by the taxpayers' largesse all your life all the while preaching "competing in the free market" to the rest of us.

    You are a typical neocon chicken hawk, wanting to start wars others get killed in. I think people like you are loathsome.
     
    You have no idea what I did in the aftermath of 9/11, do you? Why should you, you are some unhinged "libertarian" low level paper shuffler at the DoD.

    Here's a little clue. I carried a modified Browning Hi-Power in the Middle East (actually started with an H&K USP45, but happened to run into a cousin - he was a helo pilot back then - who was flying the SEALs and gave him my beast of a USP, which he carried onboard the rest of that tour).

    Before I transitioned to CT, I worked on TCOs (got to know Murtha's district very well), but something happened c. 2001 that changed everyone's focus.

    You probably have no idea what I am talking about, so I'll give a bit more (but that's it, okay?) - I specialized in operating in non-permissive environments. And long before all that, I wore a black beret and carried a K1A for an allied country.


    a little yellow coward
     
    I think this says all about what kind of a person you are.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    Great. Since you have so much experience you will be useful fighting the Russians. People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.

    You are a dimwit. You supported an Iraq war everyone now realizes was a mistake. Trump said it was a mistake in 2016 and that is partly why he got the presidency. People were rejecting you neocons. Did you support the war just so you could go over there and strut around and play soldier boy? That is pretty pathetic.

    I talked to returning soldiers. Most of them were disillusioned. They thought they would be treated as liberators but found out most of the locals hated them. They are Muslims over there and want to stay Muslims. They ran us out of Afghanistan. Iraq now has a pro-Iran government. Way to go, Twinkie, with your previous astute judgement in supporting the Iraq war! We definitely should follow your foreign policy advice when it comes to the Ukraine war. It just looks like we are losing our proxy war there, right? Victory is just around the corner. Now, when will you will heading over there?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    None of this - true or false - has anything to do with the fact that you are a hypocrite who preaches libertarianism while suckling on the taxpayer tit.


    You are a dimwit.
     
    You like to engage in name-calling of the lowest order, including racially-charged insults ("yellow coward"), because you have poor arguments. So, every conversation with you turns into a mud fight.

    Step back one second from your government-issued laptop from the 2010 and try to read your writings objectively. Do you think others would find them convincing? Several friendly commenters tried to dissuade you from this kind of behavior, but you can't help yourself, can you?

    Replies: @Mark G.

    , @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.
     
    How many times the population of North Vietnam did we have in 1975? How many times the population of Afghanistan did the Soviet Union have in 1988?

    I was mildly pro-Putin previously (he improved the standards of living in Russia and made life better for most of his country's citizens), but attempts by a major country to annex territory of neighbors by force of arms have to be resisted, lest it destabilize the international order.

    By making the fateful decision to plunge his country into war, Putin has found out the old maxim: "Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please." As long as the sovereign government of Ukraine seeks material help from the West to resist the Russian invasion, I think we should provide the said material assistance (I am, of course, completely and totally opposed to involving any American military personnel or those of our legally-bound allies).

    It's not personal - I don't have anything against the Russians. It's just the nature of Realpolitik and, in a happy coincidence, the international law is against the Russians.
  130. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    Great. Since you have so much experience you will be useful fighting the Russians. People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.

    You are a dimwit. You supported an Iraq war everyone now realizes was a mistake. Trump said it was a mistake in 2016 and that is partly why he got the presidency. People were rejecting you neocons. Did you support the war just so you could go over there and strut around and play soldier boy? That is pretty pathetic.

    I talked to returning soldiers. Most of them were disillusioned. They thought they would be treated as liberators but found out most of the locals hated them. They are Muslims over there and want to stay Muslims. They ran us out of Afghanistan. Iraq now has a pro-Iran government. Way to go, Twinkie, with your previous astute judgement in supporting the Iraq war! We definitely should follow your foreign policy advice when it comes to the Ukraine war. It just looks like we are losing our proxy war there, right? Victory is just around the corner. Now, when will you will heading over there?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie

    None of this – true or false – has anything to do with the fact that you are a hypocrite who preaches libertarianism while suckling on the taxpayer tit.

    You are a dimwit.

    You like to engage in name-calling of the lowest order, including racially-charged insults (“yellow coward”), because you have poor arguments. So, every conversation with you turns into a mud fight.

    Step back one second from your government-issued laptop from the 2010 and try to read your writings objectively. Do you think others would find them convincing? Several friendly commenters tried to dissuade you from this kind of behavior, but you can’t help yourself, can you?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins. The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians. You are just dragging out the Vietnam era domino theory which was discredited when it turned out to be false. This is all about boosting profits for American weapons manufacturers and providing a justification for our 900 billion dollar a year military. We can no longer afford such a military.

    As for me listening to the advice of others, I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here. I understand that a pompous blowhard like you is annoyed I do not treat you like a great intellect. I don't care. Get it?

    Also, you just repeat the same talking points like a dimwitted parrot. I already explained there is nothing wrong with a libertarian working for a military used for defensive purposes. Vietnam, Iraq and Russia never attacked us. We attacked them. Those are all unjust immoral wars. You supported the Iraq war and now support our proxy war against Russia. By doing so, that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Twinkie

  131. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    Great. Since you have so much experience you will be useful fighting the Russians. People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.

    You are a dimwit. You supported an Iraq war everyone now realizes was a mistake. Trump said it was a mistake in 2016 and that is partly why he got the presidency. People were rejecting you neocons. Did you support the war just so you could go over there and strut around and play soldier boy? That is pretty pathetic.

    I talked to returning soldiers. Most of them were disillusioned. They thought they would be treated as liberators but found out most of the locals hated them. They are Muslims over there and want to stay Muslims. They ran us out of Afghanistan. Iraq now has a pro-Iran government. Way to go, Twinkie, with your previous astute judgement in supporting the Iraq war! We definitely should follow your foreign policy advice when it comes to the Ukraine war. It just looks like we are losing our proxy war there, right? Victory is just around the corner. Now, when will you will heading over there?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie

    People like you who were encouraging the Ukrainians to fight a war they could not possibly win, since Russia has three times the population, by giving them weapons and money have a moral obligation to go fight with them now that they are losing.

    How many times the population of North Vietnam did we have in 1975? How many times the population of Afghanistan did the Soviet Union have in 1988?

    I was mildly pro-Putin previously (he improved the standards of living in Russia and made life better for most of his country’s citizens), but attempts by a major country to annex territory of neighbors by force of arms have to be resisted, lest it destabilize the international order.

    By making the fateful decision to plunge his country into war, Putin has found out the old maxim: “Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please.” As long as the sovereign government of Ukraine seeks material help from the West to resist the Russian invasion, I think we should provide the said material assistance (I am, of course, completely and totally opposed to involving any American military personnel or those of our legally-bound allies).

    It’s not personal – I don’t have anything against the Russians. It’s just the nature of Realpolitik and, in a happy coincidence, the international law is against the Russians.

  132. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.

    None of this - true or false - has anything to do with the fact that you are a hypocrite who preaches libertarianism while suckling on the taxpayer tit.


    You are a dimwit.
     
    You like to engage in name-calling of the lowest order, including racially-charged insults ("yellow coward"), because you have poor arguments. So, every conversation with you turns into a mud fight.

    Step back one second from your government-issued laptop from the 2010 and try to read your writings objectively. Do you think others would find them convincing? Several friendly commenters tried to dissuade you from this kind of behavior, but you can't help yourself, can you?

    Replies: @Mark G.

    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins. The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians. You are just dragging out the Vietnam era domino theory which was discredited when it turned out to be false. This is all about boosting profits for American weapons manufacturers and providing a justification for our 900 billion dollar a year military. We can no longer afford such a military.

    As for me listening to the advice of others, I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here. I understand that a pompous blowhard like you is annoyed I do not treat you like a great intellect. I don’t care. Get it?

    Also, you just repeat the same talking points like a dimwitted parrot. I already explained there is nothing wrong with a libertarian working for a military used for defensive purposes. Vietnam, Iraq and Russia never attacked us. We attacked them. Those are all unjust immoral wars. You supported the Iraq war and now support our proxy war against Russia. By doing so, that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Mark G.


    The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians.
     
    Thanks for the laugh. Every year that passes the GDP of Europe is composed more and more like that of the US : Tatted up dykes with a face full of fishing tackle selling blue check marks on Twitter/X.

    Your main point stands however. As Putin has repeatedly said: Russia doesn't need more land.
    , @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins.
     
    If Russia had been able to decapitate Kyiv in the opening phase of the war with that combined ground and air assault operation and were successful in its initial “shock-and-awe,” it’d have encouraged the PRC to invade Taiwan. It might also lead to Israel annexing the occupied territories and expelling the residents. Annexing territory by force of arms has been illegal under international law since the end of WW II for a reason. It’s something that has to be resisted strenuously, especially when major powers engage in it.

    I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here.
     
    The issue is not popularity, but soundness of argument that convinces others. Otherwise you are just emoting like a petulant child. “Dimwitted” is about right.

    that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.
     
    You see people who disagree with you and those whom you can’t convince with your childish emoting as “immoral” and “evil” (and hurl racial abuses at them to boot).

    The secret sin theory of politics is right in your case.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  133. @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    I have an internet stalker, who has nothing better to do than count how many words I post on the… internet.
     
    Hey, it only takes a couple of seconds to check your comment & word count.

    I see that since my last, you've added another 12 posts/1700 words. What a busy bee you are!

    I am sort of an outlandish guy
     
    ...well, you play one on the internet...

    the ridiculous chapter in Ulysses which starts with, IN THE HEART OF THE HIBERNIAN METROPOLIS
     
    One of my favorite bits!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “One of my favorite bits!”

    Alors, nous sommes d’ac!

    Just changing the subject a bit, since you really are one of my favorite folks around here, and I get that a bit of a dust-up de temps-en-temps is good for the blood, but why be combative for longer than is agreeable, yes?

    You know who I really love is Carole King. I mean, think about her career: she started writing songs at a really young age, got married/divorced really young too (yep, got THAT out of the way), and by the time she was only like 25 she already had something like a dozen Billboard Top Ten songs on the charts. Set for life. It’s just crazy. So then she goes into this sort of wilderness period, then quits the Brill Building and then somehow pops up again in Laurel Canyon, besties with Joni and Neil (don’t get me started) with a giant hit record of her own — and she’s still not even fucking 30 yet!

    God bless her she still seems to be alive and kicking, age north of 80 I reckon, hasn’t had a hit record in decades, but who fucking cares: she wrote “Do the Locomotion” for crying out loud.

    Plus without even meaning to, she also accidentally inspired an avant-garde opera. How many people have that sort of bragging rights?

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Lots of gay guys seem to love talentless warblers like Carole King.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  134. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    How do you know what the person looks, or even that’s it a man, if the account is under a pseudonym?
     
    https://www.media-marketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/na-internetu-niko-ne-zna-da-ste-pas.png


    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?

    Replies: @Anon Cubed, @Bill Jones

    Maybe Steve knows the fellow?

    In the Biblical sense?

  135. @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief.
     
    I think I understand the second clause. What the heck does the first one mean?

    Replies: @MGB, @Bill Jones

    What the heck does the first one mean?

    Your future is in hands other than yours.

  136. @tomv
    I think Steve is talking about this AP story.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-of-the-best-known-social-media-influencers-are-literal-unknowns-anonymity-provides-cover-when-they-peddle-disinformaton-a558bb2b

    It doesn't mention specific accounts, much less expose their owners, but I narrowed down the candidates for Steve's X-man to two after reading another article on the subject.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    What’s a hoot about the AP “unknowns” whine is the constant stream of bullshit they publish from
    “Government sources speaking on condition of anonymity”.

  137. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins. The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians. You are just dragging out the Vietnam era domino theory which was discredited when it turned out to be false. This is all about boosting profits for American weapons manufacturers and providing a justification for our 900 billion dollar a year military. We can no longer afford such a military.

    As for me listening to the advice of others, I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here. I understand that a pompous blowhard like you is annoyed I do not treat you like a great intellect. I don't care. Get it?

    Also, you just repeat the same talking points like a dimwitted parrot. I already explained there is nothing wrong with a libertarian working for a military used for defensive purposes. Vietnam, Iraq and Russia never attacked us. We attacked them. Those are all unjust immoral wars. You supported the Iraq war and now support our proxy war against Russia. By doing so, that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Twinkie

    The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians.

    Thanks for the laugh. Every year that passes the GDP of Europe is composed more and more like that of the US : Tatted up dykes with a face full of fishing tackle selling blue check marks on Twitter/X.

    Your main point stands however. As Putin has repeatedly said: Russia doesn’t need more land.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  138. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins. The rest of Europe has a GDP several times that of Russia and can easily afford militaries to fend off the Russians. You are just dragging out the Vietnam era domino theory which was discredited when it turned out to be false. This is all about boosting profits for American weapons manufacturers and providing a justification for our 900 billion dollar a year military. We can no longer afford such a military.

    As for me listening to the advice of others, I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here. I understand that a pompous blowhard like you is annoyed I do not treat you like a great intellect. I don't care. Get it?

    Also, you just repeat the same talking points like a dimwitted parrot. I already explained there is nothing wrong with a libertarian working for a military used for defensive purposes. Vietnam, Iraq and Russia never attacked us. We attacked them. Those are all unjust immoral wars. You supported the Iraq war and now support our proxy war against Russia. By doing so, that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Twinkie

    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins.

    If Russia had been able to decapitate Kyiv in the opening phase of the war with that combined ground and air assault operation and were successful in its initial “shock-and-awe,” it’d have encouraged the PRC to invade Taiwan. It might also lead to Israel annexing the occupied territories and expelling the residents. Annexing territory by force of arms has been illegal under international law since the end of WW II for a reason. It’s something that has to be resisted strenuously, especially when major powers engage in it.

    I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here.

    The issue is not popularity, but soundness of argument that convinces others. Otherwise you are just emoting like a petulant child. “Dimwitted” is about right.

    that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.

    You see people who disagree with you and those whom you can’t convince with your childish emoting as “immoral” and “evil” (and hurl racial abuses at them to boot).

    The secret sin theory of politics is right in your case.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.

    All your talking points will make no difference. The military will contract and when it does Russia and China will do what they want to their neighbors. Robert Kennedy Jr. said recently in a little over a decade interest payments on the debt will equal all tax receipts. In addition to this, by 2030 we will have 78 million retired Boomers and less than 3 workers per retiree. Many of these workers will be low IQ non-White immigrants or ghetto dwellers who will produce little that can be taxed

    There will be a fiscal crisis leading to military spending being cut in half. It will make no difference whether you vote for a Ron Paul isolationist type or not or what kind of talking points you come up with. We will be forced into adopting such an isolationist policy when the money runs out.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  139. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    It is not going to destabilize anything if Russia wins.
     
    If Russia had been able to decapitate Kyiv in the opening phase of the war with that combined ground and air assault operation and were successful in its initial “shock-and-awe,” it’d have encouraged the PRC to invade Taiwan. It might also lead to Israel annexing the occupied territories and expelling the residents. Annexing territory by force of arms has been illegal under international law since the end of WW II for a reason. It’s something that has to be resisted strenuously, especially when major powers engage in it.

    I already said I am not trying to win a popularity contest here.
     
    The issue is not popularity, but soundness of argument that convinces others. Otherwise you are just emoting like a petulant child. “Dimwitted” is about right.

    that makes you immoral. I am doing nothing wrong. You are.
     
    You see people who disagree with you and those whom you can’t convince with your childish emoting as “immoral” and “evil” (and hurl racial abuses at them to boot).

    The secret sin theory of politics is right in your case.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.

    All your talking points will make no difference. The military will contract and when it does Russia and China will do what they want to their neighbors. Robert Kennedy Jr. said recently in a little over a decade interest payments on the debt will equal all tax receipts. In addition to this, by 2030 we will have 78 million retired Boomers and less than 3 workers per retiree. Many of these workers will be low IQ non-White immigrants or ghetto dwellers who will produce little that can be taxed

    There will be a fiscal crisis leading to military spending being cut in half. It will make no difference whether you vote for a Ron Paul isolationist type or not or what kind of talking points you come up with. We will be forced into adopting such an isolationist policy when the money runs out.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.
     
    This is the sequence of our discussion:

    You: People hate me here, because I work for the government.

    Me: People don't hate you, because you work for the government. People find it hypocritical that you preach libertarianism, but derive a livelihood from the government all the while never having competed in the free marketplace like you urge other to do.

    You: You are a dim-witted, yellow coward who believe in an evil Christian God! You are evil and loathsome!

    Me: That's not going to be convince anyone. That's just emoting like a child and being an anti-Christian kook.

    You: You are insulting me just like I insulted you!


    talking points
     
    Talking points are your thing, not mine. You repeat them like, to borrow your words, a dim-witted person. For example, you refer to "the medical cartel" a lot. When I try to pin you down on the definition, because it makes no sense (why would doctors want to bring in more Indian doctors in the U.S. if they had a cartel?), then you move the goal post ("I was talking about the healthcare industry more broadly" or some such thing). When I call you on it, you start calling names and bring up issues that have nothing to do with the point at hand ("You supported the Iraq War!" "You don't admire Ron Paul!").

    Do you know what the point of communication - in this case, of writing here - is? It is to express your views cogently and convince others the correctness of the said views, so that you create like-minded allies. Otherwise, if you are just emoting, hurling abuses at others and don't care how you are being perceived by the others, why are you here at all? You can just emote into a blank computer screen.

    That you don't seem to understand this is a sign that, despite your physical age, you have the brain of a petulant child who throws a tantrum because he didn't get his way. Well, I am going to deal with you the way I deal with petulant children.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  140. @Stan Adams
    @Anonymous

    From Wokepedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StoneToss


    In March 2024, Anonymous Comrades Collective and Late-Night Anti-Fascists claimed to have revealed the identity of StoneToss using leaked information from Gab, a social media website with a far-right userbase. According to the material they published, he is a Texan former security guard and IT professional, who had been putting significant effort into remaining anonymous. The group said that he had also created the RedPanels webcomic, described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a neo-Nazi comic and by Matt Binder of Mashable as "even more overtly pro-Nazi" than StoneToss. As of late March, media organizations reporting on the event have been indicating that they have not independently verified the results of the groups' research.

    StoneToss denied being a neo-Nazi and sought protection from Twitter's owner Elon Musk through individuals who had contacts with him. This was followed by a controversy after Twitter suspended multiple users who posted the author's alleged real name, with media taking special note of civil rights attorney and transgender rights activist Alejandra Caraballo's suspension. Rob Beschizza of Boing Boing commented that, while "no-one outside of extremely online spaces cares", the controversy was intensified via the Streisand effect. The episode was followed by renewed concerns about content moderation on Twitter under Musk, especially regarding content that promotes far-right ideas. After a few days, Twitter amended its privacy policy—which at the time expressly excluded real names from what it considers private information—to prohibit disclosure of others' real names. As this behavior had been previously tolerated when it came from right-wing accounts, critics took the move as evidence of the platform under Musk affording preferential treatment to that group of users.
     

    Replies: @Lurker

    Anonymous Comrades Collective and Late-Night Anti-Fascists

    Faggots.

  141. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.

    All your talking points will make no difference. The military will contract and when it does Russia and China will do what they want to their neighbors. Robert Kennedy Jr. said recently in a little over a decade interest payments on the debt will equal all tax receipts. In addition to this, by 2030 we will have 78 million retired Boomers and less than 3 workers per retiree. Many of these workers will be low IQ non-White immigrants or ghetto dwellers who will produce little that can be taxed

    There will be a fiscal crisis leading to military spending being cut in half. It will make no difference whether you vote for a Ron Paul isolationist type or not or what kind of talking points you come up with. We will be forced into adopting such an isolationist policy when the money runs out.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.

    This is the sequence of our discussion:

    You: People hate me here, because I work for the government.

    Me: People don’t hate you, because you work for the government. People find it hypocritical that you preach libertarianism, but derive a livelihood from the government all the while never having competed in the free marketplace like you urge other to do.

    You: You are a dim-witted, yellow coward who believe in an evil Christian God! You are evil and loathsome!

    Me: That’s not going to be convince anyone. That’s just emoting like a child and being an anti-Christian kook.

    You: You are insulting me just like I insulted you!

    talking points

    Talking points are your thing, not mine. You repeat them like, to borrow your words, a dim-witted person. For example, you refer to “the medical cartel” a lot. When I try to pin you down on the definition, because it makes no sense (why would doctors want to bring in more Indian doctors in the U.S. if they had a cartel?), then you move the goal post (“I was talking about the healthcare industry more broadly” or some such thing). When I call you on it, you start calling names and bring up issues that have nothing to do with the point at hand (“You supported the Iraq War!” “You don’t admire Ron Paul!”).

    Do you know what the point of communication – in this case, of writing here – is? It is to express your views cogently and convince others the correctness of the said views, so that you create like-minded allies. Otherwise, if you are just emoting, hurling abuses at others and don’t care how you are being perceived by the others, why are you here at all? You can just emote into a blank computer screen.

    That you don’t seem to understand this is a sign that, despite your physical age, you have the brain of a petulant child who throws a tantrum because he didn’t get his way. Well, I am going to deal with you the way I deal with petulant children.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Hypocrite" is an insult because libertarians do not say there should be no government. Therefore, there is nothing wrong working for it. However, you should not be involved in immoral actions like attacking other countries that never attacked you. I do not support this. You do. I already ponted this out to you.

    So, you began all this with an insult. Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points. I respond to them and then later on you just repeat them. I have told you before we can't afford your big expensive military, your big expensive government enforced medical cartel and all the rest of big government because government overspending is hurling us towards a fiscal crisis. You are in a serious state of denial.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  142. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    You calling me a petulant child or a kook are just as much insults as anything I am saying. You accuse others of what you do yourself.
     
    This is the sequence of our discussion:

    You: People hate me here, because I work for the government.

    Me: People don't hate you, because you work for the government. People find it hypocritical that you preach libertarianism, but derive a livelihood from the government all the while never having competed in the free marketplace like you urge other to do.

    You: You are a dim-witted, yellow coward who believe in an evil Christian God! You are evil and loathsome!

    Me: That's not going to be convince anyone. That's just emoting like a child and being an anti-Christian kook.

    You: You are insulting me just like I insulted you!


    talking points
     
    Talking points are your thing, not mine. You repeat them like, to borrow your words, a dim-witted person. For example, you refer to "the medical cartel" a lot. When I try to pin you down on the definition, because it makes no sense (why would doctors want to bring in more Indian doctors in the U.S. if they had a cartel?), then you move the goal post ("I was talking about the healthcare industry more broadly" or some such thing). When I call you on it, you start calling names and bring up issues that have nothing to do with the point at hand ("You supported the Iraq War!" "You don't admire Ron Paul!").

    Do you know what the point of communication - in this case, of writing here - is? It is to express your views cogently and convince others the correctness of the said views, so that you create like-minded allies. Otherwise, if you are just emoting, hurling abuses at others and don't care how you are being perceived by the others, why are you here at all? You can just emote into a blank computer screen.

    That you don't seem to understand this is a sign that, despite your physical age, you have the brain of a petulant child who throws a tantrum because he didn't get his way. Well, I am going to deal with you the way I deal with petulant children.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “Hypocrite” is an insult because libertarians do not say there should be no government. Therefore, there is nothing wrong working for it. However, you should not be involved in immoral actions like attacking other countries that never attacked you. I do not support this. You do. I already ponted this out to you.

    So, you began all this with an insult. Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points. I respond to them and then later on you just repeat them. I have told you before we can’t afford your big expensive military, your big expensive government enforced medical cartel and all the rest of big government because government overspending is hurling us towards a fiscal crisis. You are in a serious state of denial.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points.
     
    Look at the mirror.

    How many times have you invoked my race, my support for the Iraq War from 20+ years ago (when I was in my 30's), the allegation that I am motivated by government funding for my "medical cartel," and a whole host of other ad hominem that have nothing to do with anything under discussion?


    So, you began all this with an insult.
     
    This conversation began, because you tried to portray yourself as a martyr, not because I called out your hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  143. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    "One of my favorite bits!"

    Alors, nous sommes d'ac!

    Just changing the subject a bit, since you really are one of my favorite folks around here, and I get that a bit of a dust-up de temps-en-temps is good for the blood, but why be combative for longer than is agreeable, yes?

    You know who I really love is Carole King. I mean, think about her career: she started writing songs at a really young age, got married/divorced really young too (yep, got THAT out of the way), and by the time she was only like 25 she already had something like a dozen Billboard Top Ten songs on the charts. Set for life. It's just crazy. So then she goes into this sort of wilderness period, then quits the Brill Building and then somehow pops up again in Laurel Canyon, besties with Joni and Neil (don't get me started) with a giant hit record of her own -- and she's still not even fucking 30 yet!

    God bless her she still seems to be alive and kicking, age north of 80 I reckon, hasn't had a hit record in decades, but who fucking cares: she wrote "Do the Locomotion" for crying out loud.

    Plus without even meaning to, she also accidentally inspired an avant-garde opera. How many people have that sort of bragging rights?

    Replies: @vinteuil

    Lots of gay guys seem to love talentless warblers like Carole King.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Wow, you really just luv to pick a fight, dontcha.

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Well it really all just boils down to personal taste, right? I mean, I can see how you might, according to your own lights, just sort of think Carole King is a nuisance. I disagree, but at the very least, I can see how a smart tasteful person could think that. My counter-arguments will have no effect, because you already have your own taste, which you put together for your own very diffferent reasons.

    The one thing I will debate is, I rather like weak-voiced faltering "warblers" as you put it. I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume blues shouters just trying to power their way through everything; Whitney Houston, bless her soul, was a great talent and all that sort of thing, but I can't find a hint of honesty in all that shouting. I vastly prefer quiet weirdos like Tori Amos or Kristen Hirsch who have a bit of tremble and vulnerability in their kit. I can't stand all the "I GOTS THE MUSIC IN MEEEEEE" sort of barrelling around. When PJ Harvey finally is motivated to sort of growl and snarl, "Lick my legs, I'm on fire" I sort of believe it in a way that I never believe the likes of Mariah Carey. And she STILL does not fucking return my calls.

    Which brings us to the new Taylor Swift record, of which there is much to be argued about but not just right now. Steve, when ya gonna give us a Taylor thread?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @vinteuil

  144. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Hypocrite" is an insult because libertarians do not say there should be no government. Therefore, there is nothing wrong working for it. However, you should not be involved in immoral actions like attacking other countries that never attacked you. I do not support this. You do. I already ponted this out to you.

    So, you began all this with an insult. Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points. I respond to them and then later on you just repeat them. I have told you before we can't afford your big expensive military, your big expensive government enforced medical cartel and all the rest of big government because government overspending is hurling us towards a fiscal crisis. You are in a serious state of denial.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points.

    Look at the mirror.

    How many times have you invoked my race, my support for the Iraq War from 20+ years ago (when I was in my 30’s), the allegation that I am motivated by government funding for my “medical cartel,” and a whole host of other ad hominem that have nothing to do with anything under discussion?

    So, you began all this with an insult.

    This conversation began, because you tried to portray yourself as a martyr, not because I called out your hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    No, you dumbass, I am not a hypocrite. If I were an anarchist and worked for the government then I would be a hypocrite. You are currently supporting a U.S. proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. Not 20 years ago. Right now. Russia never attacked us so this is a war of aggression.

    I just read that Chris Cuomo is taking Ivermectin to combat his Covid vaccine injuries. He said Ivermectin was blocked because it was a cheap drug. Your medical cartel supported the government threatening doctors with the loss of their licenses if they tried to develop and implement inexpensive home treatments. They wanted to force everyone into expensive hospital treatments with intravenous three thousand dollar Remdesivir. All to increase profits.

    I am sure this will go in one ear and out the other without sinking into your tiny little peabrain, but once again we can not afford your expensive military or expensive medical cartel. We are running huge government deficits and heading for a fiscal crisis. Medicare is going to become insolvent. We are going to move to less expensive foreign medical professionals, loosen med school requirements here to get the supply of native doctors increased, and have more medical procedures done by medical personnel other than doctors. We are going to move away from the current expensive drugs and surgery model towards preventive medicine.

    I have told you this before. The Korean parrot will just continue to repeat "Indian doctors, no medical cartel, squawk squawk".

    Replies: @Twinkie

  145. @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    Whenever I talk to you, you often drag out the same talking points.
     
    Look at the mirror.

    How many times have you invoked my race, my support for the Iraq War from 20+ years ago (when I was in my 30's), the allegation that I am motivated by government funding for my "medical cartel," and a whole host of other ad hominem that have nothing to do with anything under discussion?


    So, you began all this with an insult.
     
    This conversation began, because you tried to portray yourself as a martyr, not because I called out your hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    No, you dumbass, I am not a hypocrite. If I were an anarchist and worked for the government then I would be a hypocrite. You are currently supporting a U.S. proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. Not 20 years ago. Right now. Russia never attacked us so this is a war of aggression.

    I just read that Chris Cuomo is taking Ivermectin to combat his Covid vaccine injuries. He said Ivermectin was blocked because it was a cheap drug. Your medical cartel supported the government threatening doctors with the loss of their licenses if they tried to develop and implement inexpensive home treatments. They wanted to force everyone into expensive hospital treatments with intravenous three thousand dollar Remdesivir. All to increase profits.

    I am sure this will go in one ear and out the other without sinking into your tiny little peabrain, but once again we can not afford your expensive military or expensive medical cartel. We are running huge government deficits and heading for a fiscal crisis. Medicare is going to become insolvent. We are going to move to less expensive foreign medical professionals, loosen med school requirements here to get the supply of native doctors increased, and have more medical procedures done by medical personnel other than doctors. We are going to move away from the current expensive drugs and surgery model towards preventive medicine.

    I have told you this before. The Korean parrot will just continue to repeat “Indian doctors, no medical cartel, squawk squawk”.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mark G.


    No, you dumbass, I am not a hypocrite… The Korean parrot will just continue to repeat
     
    Grow up.
  146. @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Lots of gay guys seem to love talentless warblers like Carole King.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Wow, you really just luv to pick a fight, dontcha.

  147. @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    No, you dumbass, I am not a hypocrite. If I were an anarchist and worked for the government then I would be a hypocrite. You are currently supporting a U.S. proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. Not 20 years ago. Right now. Russia never attacked us so this is a war of aggression.

    I just read that Chris Cuomo is taking Ivermectin to combat his Covid vaccine injuries. He said Ivermectin was blocked because it was a cheap drug. Your medical cartel supported the government threatening doctors with the loss of their licenses if they tried to develop and implement inexpensive home treatments. They wanted to force everyone into expensive hospital treatments with intravenous three thousand dollar Remdesivir. All to increase profits.

    I am sure this will go in one ear and out the other without sinking into your tiny little peabrain, but once again we can not afford your expensive military or expensive medical cartel. We are running huge government deficits and heading for a fiscal crisis. Medicare is going to become insolvent. We are going to move to less expensive foreign medical professionals, loosen med school requirements here to get the supply of native doctors increased, and have more medical procedures done by medical personnel other than doctors. We are going to move away from the current expensive drugs and surgery model towards preventive medicine.

    I have told you this before. The Korean parrot will just continue to repeat "Indian doctors, no medical cartel, squawk squawk".

    Replies: @Twinkie

    No, you dumbass, I am not a hypocrite… The Korean parrot will just continue to repeat

    Grow up.

  148. @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Lots of gay guys seem to love talentless warblers like Carole King.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well it really all just boils down to personal taste, right? I mean, I can see how you might, according to your own lights, just sort of think Carole King is a nuisance. I disagree, but at the very least, I can see how a smart tasteful person could think that. My counter-arguments will have no effect, because you already have your own taste, which you put together for your own very diffferent reasons.

    The one thing I will debate is, I rather like weak-voiced faltering “warblers” as you put it. I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume blues shouters just trying to power their way through everything; Whitney Houston, bless her soul, was a great talent and all that sort of thing, but I can’t find a hint of honesty in all that shouting. I vastly prefer quiet weirdos like Tori Amos or Kristen Hirsch who have a bit of tremble and vulnerability in their kit. I can’t stand all the “I GOTS THE MUSIC IN MEEEEEE” sort of barrelling around. When PJ Harvey finally is motivated to sort of growl and snarl, “Lick my legs, I’m on fire” I sort of believe it in a way that I never believe the likes of Mariah Carey. And she STILL does not fucking return my calls.

    Which brings us to the new Taylor Swift record, of which there is much to be argued about but not just right now. Steve, when ya gonna give us a Taylor thread?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIvvDjOt-A



    I could very well say, That was written for someone I used to know. In fact I could say, That was written for someone who I dedicated a production of Twelfth Night to. Of course that's stretching things rather a bit but you get the idea.

    I would never say such a thing about like a Beyonce cut.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume...shouters
     
    I don't.

    https://youtu.be/t-rgsoeeMaY?si=orO5yUNgrJhh3i_1

    Let's have Jerusalem!
  149. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Well it really all just boils down to personal taste, right? I mean, I can see how you might, according to your own lights, just sort of think Carole King is a nuisance. I disagree, but at the very least, I can see how a smart tasteful person could think that. My counter-arguments will have no effect, because you already have your own taste, which you put together for your own very diffferent reasons.

    The one thing I will debate is, I rather like weak-voiced faltering "warblers" as you put it. I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume blues shouters just trying to power their way through everything; Whitney Houston, bless her soul, was a great talent and all that sort of thing, but I can't find a hint of honesty in all that shouting. I vastly prefer quiet weirdos like Tori Amos or Kristen Hirsch who have a bit of tremble and vulnerability in their kit. I can't stand all the "I GOTS THE MUSIC IN MEEEEEE" sort of barrelling around. When PJ Harvey finally is motivated to sort of growl and snarl, "Lick my legs, I'm on fire" I sort of believe it in a way that I never believe the likes of Mariah Carey. And she STILL does not fucking return my calls.

    Which brings us to the new Taylor Swift record, of which there is much to be argued about but not just right now. Steve, when ya gonna give us a Taylor thread?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @vinteuil

    I could very well say, That was written for someone I used to know. In fact I could say, That was written for someone who I dedicated a production of Twelfth Night to. Of course that’s stretching things rather a bit but you get the idea.

    I would never say such a thing about like a Beyonce cut.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And now I speak to you, all of you -- are you in there?
    You have her face and her eyes, but you are not her.

    Can't st0p what's coming,
    Can't stop what is on its way.



    -- Tori Amos, "Bells for Her"

    God bless that lady, she gets it.

  150. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIvvDjOt-A



    I could very well say, That was written for someone I used to know. In fact I could say, That was written for someone who I dedicated a production of Twelfth Night to. Of course that's stretching things rather a bit but you get the idea.

    I would never say such a thing about like a Beyonce cut.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And now I speak to you, all of you — are you in there?
    You have her face and her eyes, but you are not her.

    Can’t st0p what’s coming,
    Can’t stop what is on its way.

    — Tori Amos, “Bells for Her”

    God bless that lady, she gets it.

  151. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @vinteuil

    Well it really all just boils down to personal taste, right? I mean, I can see how you might, according to your own lights, just sort of think Carole King is a nuisance. I disagree, but at the very least, I can see how a smart tasteful person could think that. My counter-arguments will have no effect, because you already have your own taste, which you put together for your own very diffferent reasons.

    The one thing I will debate is, I rather like weak-voiced faltering "warblers" as you put it. I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume blues shouters just trying to power their way through everything; Whitney Houston, bless her soul, was a great talent and all that sort of thing, but I can't find a hint of honesty in all that shouting. I vastly prefer quiet weirdos like Tori Amos or Kristen Hirsch who have a bit of tremble and vulnerability in their kit. I can't stand all the "I GOTS THE MUSIC IN MEEEEEE" sort of barrelling around. When PJ Harvey finally is motivated to sort of growl and snarl, "Lick my legs, I'm on fire" I sort of believe it in a way that I never believe the likes of Mariah Carey. And she STILL does not fucking return my calls.

    Which brings us to the new Taylor Swift record, of which there is much to be argued about but not just right now. Steve, when ya gonna give us a Taylor thread?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @vinteuil

    I get sick and tired of big-shot high-lung-volume…shouters

    I don’t.

    Let’s have Jerusalem!

  152. And did those feet in ancient time,
    Walk upon Englands mountains green:
    And was the holy Lamb of God,
    On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

    And did the Countenance Divine,
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Jerusalem builded here,
    Among these dark Satanic Mills?

    Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
    Bring me my Arrows of desire:
    Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
    Bring me my Chariot of fire!

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land.

    Surely the greatest, but also the strangest, of all (unofficial) national anthems.

    Far be it from me to question Blake’s poetic judgement, but “mental fight?”

  153. Well, they published it.

    I hope the groypers don’t give him too much grief.

    • Replies: @res
    @IHTG

    Lomez seems to be taking it in stride.

    https://twitter.com/L0m3z/status/1790409924394307655

    Here is the article.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/14/far-right-twitter-identity-revealed

    Includes 5 paragraphs about Steve's book and associated events.

    The article describes the doxxing process in some detail for anyone interested.

    P.S. Down in the replies notice this. Asking Elon, not from him.


    @elonmusk
    I thought doxxers get the perma ban ?
     
  154. res says:
    @IHTG
    Well, they published it.

    I hope the groypers don't give him too much grief.

    Replies: @res

    Lomez seems to be taking it in stride.

    Here is the article.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/14/far-right-twitter-identity-revealed

    Includes 5 paragraphs about Steve’s book and associated events.

    The article describes the doxxing process in some detail for anyone interested.

    P.S. Down in the replies notice this. Asking Elon, not from him.

    @elonmusk
    I thought doxxers get the perma ban ?

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