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The ‘remake’ of Donald Trump into a strong, independent leader—who is not controlled by the wealthy Zionists who got him elected—is the prevailing subtext of the New York Times blockbuster article: Trump Waved Off Israeli Strike After Divisions Emerged in His Administration. The content of the article is not nearly as important as the subtle but flattering way the authors portray Trump. The Times, you may recall, relentlessly demonized the president for nearly a decade leaving readers to wonder why they would suddenly look so favorably on him now. But that, of course, cuts to the heart of the matter, which is why the article was framed in the way it was. The authors clearly want their readers to believe that Trump makes his own foreign policy decisions and is not merely following a script that was written in Tel Aviv by the advisors of Bibi Netanyahu. And that appears to be the main thrust of the article. Here’s an excerpt:
Israel had planned to strike Iranian nuclear sites as soon as next month but was waved off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor of negotiating a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program, according to administration officials and others briefed on the discussions.
Mr. Trump made his decision after months of internal debate over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel in seeking to set back Iran’s ability to build a bomb, at a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically.
The debate highlighted fault lines between historically hawkish American cabinet officials and other aides more skeptical that a military assault on Iran could destroy the country’s nuclear ambitions and avoid a larger war. It resulted in a rough consensus, for now, against military action, with Iran signaling a willingness to negotiate.
Israeli officials had recently developed plans to attack Iranian nuclear sites in May. They were prepared to carry them out, and at times were optimistic that the United States would sign off. The goal of the proposals, according to officials briefed on them, was to set back Tehran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon by a year or more.
Almost all of the plans would have required U.S. help not just to defend Israel from Iranian retaliation, but also to ensure that an Israeli attack was successful, making the United States a central part of the attack itself.
For now, Mr. Trump has chosen diplomacy over military action. In his first term, he tore up the Iran nuclear deal negotiated by the Obama administration. But in his second term, eager to avoid being sucked into another war in the Middle East, he has opened negotiations with Tehran, giving it a deadline of just a few months to negotiate a deal over its nuclear program. Trump Waved Off Israeli Strike After Divisions Emerged in His Administration, New York Times
The objective of this excerpt is not to inform readers about an Israeli attack that never took place, but to drive home the point that Trump—acting as the supreme “decision-maker”—stood up to Netanyahu, blocked the Israeli plan to strike Iranian nuclear facilities, and opted instead for diplomatic negotiations with Iran.
Can you see how this fits with the overall intention of the four journalists to present Trump as a strong but restrained leader who acts exclusively in America’s interests and makes every effort to avoid the pointless foreign wars he disparaged during his presidential campaign? Can you also see how it might benefit Israel not to portray Trump as another Zionist ‘yes-man’ who clicks his heels and does whatever he is told but, instead, remains true to his “America First” ideology and his commitment to peace?
In order to grasp what’s going on here, let’s read the opening line again:
Israel had planned to strike Iranian nuclear sites as soon as next month but was waved off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor of negotiating a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program, according to administration officials and others briefed on the discussions. NYT
So—we are told with breathless urgency—that Israel was planning to attack Iran, but as the authors clearly state a few paragraphs later, Israel never seriously considered attacking Iran by itself. Never! So, (we must assume) The “breathless urgency” was completely fabricated in order to emphasize the point they were actually trying to make, that Trump is not an Israeli sock-puppet implementing the Zionist agenda, but a resolute and ferociously independent patriot who puts America’s interest before anything else. Isn’t that what they’re saying?
Indeed, it is. But how does that square with the facts as we know them?
Not very well.
Hasn’t Trump boasted repeatedly how he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and gave Israel the Golan Heights to Israel? Didn’t he give Bibi the greenlight for expelling the Palestinians from Gaza and turning the Strip into the “new Riviera”? Hasn’t he dubbed himself, “The best friend Israel has ever had”, and launched attacks on pro-Palestinian protestors on campuses across the country?
And what about Yemen? Is Trump bombing Yemen for Israel or for his Red State tub-thumpers who think he ‘walks on water’? And then there’s Syria—which is presently ruled by al-Qaida. Is that the outcome Trump wanted, or was it part of Bibi’s grand vision for a New Middle East? Here’s more:
Earlier this month, Mr. Trump informed Israel of his decision that the United States would not support an attack. He discussed it with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when Mr. Netanyahu visited Washington last week, using an Oval Office meeting to announce that the United States was beginning talks with Iran. NYT
So, Trump stood up to Bibi and ‘put him in his place’. Does anyone really believe that?
And notice how the authors never say that Trump officially nixed the plan, just that he temporarily postponed it until a more opportune time. And when might that ‘more opportune time’ arrive?
Why after the Iranians are forced to ditch the ‘nuclear talks’ due to Trump’s preposterous demands, of course. That is how this whole political slapstick has been scripted from the very beginning: Lure the naïve Iranians into talks (they never requested), make ridiculous demands that are certain to be rejected, and then threaten a full-blown war when Iran abandons the talks in frustration. That’s the whole dismal plotline in a nutshell.
For Trump and Bibi, failed negotiations do not represent “failure” but success. Failure means they have their justification for launching a war which was the goal from the very onset. The benefit of ‘going through the motions’—by convening talks that were designed to fail—is that it helps burnish Trump’s bone fides as a peacemaker which is an illusion his supporters still cling to unflinchingly. (even while bombs rain down on innocent Yemeni women and children!) Trump can opine that he exhausted all the opportunities for peace and is only pursuing the ‘military option’ because “I have no other choice.” Surprisingly, the NY Times piece even alludes to this in a short clip about Vice President JD Vance. Here’s the excerpt:
Mr. Vance, with support from others, argued that Mr. Trump had a unique opportunity to make a deal.
If the talks failed, Mr. Trump could then support an Israeli attack, Mr. Vance said, according to administration officials….NYT
There it is in black and white: All Trump needs to do is to impose conditions on Iran that they will reject, and—viola—there’s your pretext for war. And Trump has already made demands that far exceed anything that was agreed upon in 2015 when the JCPOA was approved. Trump has insisted that Iran give up its ballistic missiles (that are legal under international law and needed for self-defense), terminate its relations with its regional allies (Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis) and dismantle its entire nuclear enrichment program(which is Iran’s “inalienable right” under the terms of the NPT.) In short, Trump has not simply ‘moved the goalposts’, he has extracted them from the playing-field and shipped them to Tel Aviv.
As you can see, this is all an extravagant hoax aimed at laying the groundwork for war. Obviously, the editors of the Times understand this, just as they understand that the success of any protracted conflict with Iran will require the backing of the American people, which means that Americans must have confidence in their leaders. That is why Trump is being lionized as a strong and independent leader, because those are the qualities that will help him persuade the people that a war with Iran is in America’s interests. When, in fact, the only one who benefits is Israel.
Mossad chief, Dermer meet US envoy Witkoff in Paris ahead of US-Iran nuclear talks (secret ‘under the radar’ meetings in Paris one day before Iran-US ‘talks’ )
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Yep.
I can already see the devoted gathering for yet another copium binge in the Gaslight Cafe.
Q Anon has been exposed as a psyop, people.
Can you see how this fits with the overall intention of the four journalists to present Trump as a strong but restrained leader who acts exclusively in America’s interests and makes every effort to avoid the pointless foreign wars he disparaged during his presidential campaign?
The problem with that theory is NY Times journos- especially Maggie Haberman- loathe Trump.
It might be more accurate to say there’s a split in the Administration between neocons like Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz who want war with Iran and the good guys like Tulsi Gabbard who oppose them.
Nothing new under the sun. Every other week there is a new charade being played in front of our eyes. It’s hard to keep up what all the manipulations and falsehoods.
As for Trump, he couldn’t care less about the regular Joe and he will do exactly what the people want, that brought him to power, tax cuts on the rich and advancing the Jewish agenda. One can not but feel sorry for people who think that voting maters and will change much to their advantage.
At least the New York Times is Jewish-owned and Jewish-controlled. I wonder if Mr. Whitney is reading the Russian media, led by RT, Putin’s mouthpiece. For the past two years, the Russian media has been leading propaganda in support of Trump. Russian news and commentators portray Trump as the Messiah who will bring peace to the world. It is now evident to those familiar with the Russian media that the Trump election was largely influenced by Russian pro-Trump propaganda.
No.
There IS a rift within US administration as to how to handle Iran.
BTW, there is also a rift within Jewish Power in general and Israel in particular re the same.
Things aren’t such simple and black and white the author sells and simpletons are so willing to eat up.
Reasons for rifts are multiple and irellevant for the game being played as we speak.
With a lot of expertise the regime in Iran could get out of this without armed conflict. A lot. And a bit of luck, too.
The smart play would be to accept all the demands. At the same time strenghten its air defense capabilities. The core issue is: would Russia support them there? With hardware and expertise? And China, too. If…IF…those two, the former in particular, are what they are supposed to be, well, what’s the problem?
With strong air defense all is O.K. Israeli Air Force can’t hurt the regime in that case. What’s the problem if..IF…the concern is for defending own country/regime?
It’s possible, if the regime in Teheran is competent as they are supposed to be, to play this game and ,ultimately, win.
The JP/Israel objective is regime change in Teheran.
The regime’s objective is survival.
Nothing more, nothing else. Simple.
By accepting the demands, facilitating them in the field carefully with help from those two (Rus/Ch) they can survive. No armed conflict.
They don’t have nuclear capability and balllistic missiles. Not necessary for regime survival. They need to stop supporting Houtis, Hezbollah and Hamas. Not necessary for regime survival.
The key is management of demands, inspections in particular. By involving those two (Rus/Ch) in that, smart and careful, it’s doable to survive the threat for foreseable future.
I don’t dispute that there is a rift among members of the Trump team on attacking Iran. I just don’t think that is the purpose of the article.
The purpose of the article is to show that strongman Trump waved off Bibi to pursue an America First policy.
But is that what is really happening or has Trump merely postponed the attack so he can look like a peacemaker engaged in negotiations?
But watch what happens in the next couple days when Witkoff makes extraordinary demands that Iran will be forced to reject. Then Trump will have his excuse for launching a war.
Oh dear, stuck in 2016 and unable to advance.
Tucker Carlson is right*, an attack on Iran would be a military disaster for both US and Israel.
There is a second motive here. The decision is a military judgement but neither the Pentagon nor Israel dare tell anyone that Iran can destroy israel and a big chunk of US military in ME. Indeed they daren’t hint that modern Missile technology have made jets and aircraft carriers, and even ships quite redundant.
Tell the truth and you admit Israel is lost. Tell the truth and you admit that US can’t defend its most important client. Tell the truth and you admit US is no longer militarily dominant (just as it has not been Economically dominant for 10 years and lost Soft Power dominance by backing a Genocide).
I’m just hearing BBC news say that Iran’s air defences have been all but destroyed by Israeli attacks.
This is very much the same deception by the Israel loyal media.
Claiming a whimsical decision by Trump is far preferable to Telling the Truth.
(Tucker gets the terrorism angle wrong – Iran does not fund any of the major terror groups the US names, all of which are Sunni, even though US claims Iran is the biggest funder!)
Your mention of Russia is appropriate here. Mike (assuming he is another ex-something) is doing what he points out nytimes is doing: blowing smoke.
Putin and Trump are CHABAD LUVA-BITCHES.
Nutty is a ZIONIST.
NYTimes likely belongs to the SATANIST camp.
All above of course “Love ‘Israel’”. in their own way.
> “naive Iranians” & Hamas their allies.
oh mikey you ex-piece-of-shit .. you earned your pay today didn’t ya?
Other than a stray “and” or “is” here and there, every word you write is a crock of s**t. RT is not “Putin’s mouthpiece” nor are they slavishly pro-Trump. You’re either not too bright, or a troll.
So, to theoretically preserve the current regime, Iran ought to give away their national sovereignty and bend the knee to the Empire? I say theoretically because any regime that, effectively, surrendered and threw open the gates to the enemy, would presumably be done away with in fairly short order by its own outraged citizens.
Even if this turned out as you hope, the “victory” would be short-lived and pyrrhic: Were Russia (and China) to allow Iran make such a deal, they would thereby be insuring their own eventual defeat by the Empire.
You sound like very illiterate. Putin is crawling to Trump and his Jewish handlers. Where was Puting when Israel attacked Iran? RT is Putin’s mouthpiece with an appetite for fake news and dirty propaganda.
I always find the comments by “ghali” very well measured and based on broad reading of credible sources, such as The Lancet, UNZR, MintPress, Aljazeera, etc. I know, it is hard to think when you read Russian propaganda.
Why do you suppose that is?
Many seemingly heterodox pundits serve the Establishment as jambs for the Overton window of acceptable discourse. (Pat Buchanan did this for Uncle Sam relentlessly during his last several years at TUR.) Carlson’s helping to keep the sheople seeing Iran as an enemy, thus framing the question as whether “we” are presently positioned to slay that dragon.
“Where was Puting when Israel attacked Iran? ”
Stop picking on poor sock puppet “Andrew”.
Better question is why is the supreme leader oblivious to all these clear and apparent facts? Is he as has been claimed an obscure KGB asset recruited in his student days in Russia that by random chance (assuming whoever took out the revolutionary heavies early on with bombings were not KGB) ended up as supreme leader?
https://www.newarab.com/opinion/divine-interventions-putin-sees-jesus-khamenei
people are so stupid. it is the number one problem with humanity. stupid people and snakes who manipulate them.
boy, it’s a good thing fearless leader waived off israel’s attack on iran. now i will wave off the devastating attack, i was just about to launch on israel. they are so lucky i’m holding back, i mean, i was going to level the place. there wouldn’t have been two stones left standing together when i was through.
israel should call the great peacemaker and roundly thank him, for sparing their lives. i was gonna do it, i swear, give trump that nobel peace prize right now, this great man has discovered the secret to making peace, just make a whole bunch of wild, pompous and unhinged threats and then back down in the name of peace.
this isn’t the first time trump has spared them either. after he had murdered soleimani, in a most cowardly and deceitful manner and iran rained missiles on our iraqi base, (after giving hours of warning), trump got so mad, he was going to bomb, bomb, bomb iran, back into the stone age but then asked himself, “what would jesus do?”. after being touched by the holy spirt, he called off the attack out of pure compassion, the fact that iran had radar locks on all their “stealth” fighters, had nothing to do with it i assure you.
what the article shows, is that the civil war within the deepstate (war of zioneocon aggression), that began during the 2016 selection, was finally won by the trumpian deepstate, with the final skirmish, being the battle of butler. trump courageously led his troops forward, in spite of taking a wwf blood packet to the ear, with the battlecry of “why don’t you and him go fight, fight, fight.”
the zioneocon deepstate, led by general brandon then surrendered, after being caught in a sting operation, along with the f.b.i. and secret service. we never heard a peep out of them again, other than the ocasional cackle out of harris, the headless hen.
at that point all the resources of the deepstate were turned over to the triumphant trumpian deepstate forces. to the victors go the spoils and the n.y.t. is the premier wrapper for spoiled fish. they are the geflilter of the mighty wurlitzer, mockingbird media and all the news that’s fit for the jews.
but it’s not just them, the washington, dumb as a post, where democracy goes to die in the darkness, is the official cia newsletter and bezos bowed a knee to trump, as did cnn, mark zuckerberg and all other former enemy combatants. trump accepted their swords and multi million dollar donation checks, for the great reunification gala and swinging presidential balls. we were a nation in brotherhood and under one flag, once again…. the flag of israel.
Thank you for your correct point.
Don’t listen to zionist liars such as @peterAUS, who is repeating the LIE of his superior, the genocidal Jews, who refer to the Iranian government as ‘regime’ which is suited for the genocidal regime in Tel Aviv. First: his opinion is shaped by the Zionist media including ‘Iran International’ and Axios.
Second, this kind of stupid argument has been made by a CIA agent, poses as opposition, Scott Ritter, who said: “Iran will be caved in when her survival is in danger.’ He, then refers to a STUPID and FAKE example that ‘Khamenie had to take the poison to end Iraq war for Iran’s survival‘. Professor Marandi corrected this CIA agent poses as ‘a friend of Iran’ that Iranians protected the SOVEREIGNTY of Iran at the end of the Iraq invasion, by not giving ONE INCH of Iran’s territory to the enemy who was supported and funded by the criminal WEST including Russia. This time it will be the same, but with one difference, that Iran is FAR MORE STRONGER than in the 1980s and no country like Israel or even US can do a damn thing.
Now, It is the time for the world to talk about the MAIN issue, and that is the ILLEGAL Israel’s Nuclear weapons factory where should be destroyed by the UN watchdog, to be forced to become a member of NPT and allows the inspectors to come in and inspect her nuclear program not to divert to weapon again. Trump must focus on Israeli’s illegal weapon factory, and NOT on a member of NPT, Iran’s legal nuclear program.
I guess that’s reply to my comment.
O.K.
An excellent question. My take is former. Yours, apparently, is later. We’ll see.
You mean
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/19/us-iran-nuclear-talks-rome-witkoff
?
Now, it’s oh so true that in the Trump version of the Clown World statements mean nothing and can be reversed in a second.
My take is very simple and, perhaps, you, as an author, could try to explore that option:
The regime in Iran is very well aware of the true dynamics of power in this case. Willfully delusional big part of the “alternative” in the West isn’t. That’s fine. Beliefs, faiths, theology, cults etc.
The regime in Iran does not have an initiative here. It is forced to react to the pressure.
The Jewish Power in general, and Israel in particular, want neutered Iran. NOW……how that neutered is supposed to look like and how to achieve that is, still, open to hard debates within both former and later.
Here is the crux: the neutered Iran (re Israel) doesn’t necessarily mean regime change. THIS is the point the regime in Teheran is , IMHO, focused on. Now, of course, would the process and the result of that neutering mean, ultimately, regime change…..maybe. Maybe not.
If the neutering is done carefully and in a controlled way, supported by Russia/China I think it’s possible the theocracy in Iran will survive. No need to get into details here, at the moment.
If the neutering is done through armed conflict, well, the most likely outcome is the fall of the theocracy. Now, it’s true that most of the “alternative” desperately want to believe it will actually, somehow, usher a Better World. That faith thing. Mullahs are smarter.
The primary objective of theocracy, now, is preventing the armed conflict. By accepting all the demands they, at least, postpone it. And keep postponing by carefully executing those demands. WITH help from Russia and China they can strenghten their air defenses AND manage the spying/mapping, I mean verification, the best they can. Plus plenty of other measures I’d leave out of this comment.
I belive that the mullahs’ve made a decision that in the Trump version of the Clown World there is an opportunity to survive. The chaos actually favors them. Time could very well work for them.
They could very well be correct.
Good I hope they do it. It would take care of these pests the israhell kike and the circumcized dick suckers who bend over continuously and take it up the ass all the time. These middle-eastern asiatics need to be weeded out of the West once and for all…Also their whole rotten central banking system needs to be destroyed completely along with that city of london corporation. Blast it into a hole in the ground…
A food for thought, perhaps.
Don’t you people (the majority on the “alternative” and especially here) constantly state two simple things:
1. Empire is in decline, just about to collapse.
2. Russia and China are the true superpowers.
Well, if so (I think both statements are ridiculous), how about:
Those two simply protect Iran in this game. What’s the problem?! They are strong and Empire is weak.
And, BTW, all the world is aware of the Jewish Power and Israel is also very weak.
Perfect timing, isn’t it?
In that world (I call it “Willful delusion”) the solution to all this is simple:
Without asking Empire anything Russia and China start strengthening Iranian air defenses. Moving hardware, specialists, open training facilities etc. Now.
They, NOW, send their own verification teams, to work with the regime in Teheran on the nuclear/ballistic issue. Create parallel structure to those “Empire” teams.
Russian/Chinese counterintelligence outfits work closely with Iranian security services to tightly control Empire verification teams so they can’t do any productive spying/mapping. And also work against any insurrection/separatism/whatever. Ah, yes, re the later: Chinese SF (Russians are a bit busy…) work together with Iranian counterinsurgency forces. Hell, bring some North Koreans too as shock troops.
With all the above, well, how exactly will the Empire take down the regime in Teheran?
The problem is: there isn’t the above, except in “alternative” online echo chambers. And mullahs know that. Have zero desire to follow the fate of rulers of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria.
Indeed. Prior to Israel/Gaza becoming a news item, Whitney took the side of Russia/Putin against Ukraine frequently. Some questioned if he was on Putin’s payroll.
It’s not going to be a “war”. It will just be a series of precision strikes against Iran’s known nuke research/development facilities led by Israel with the US sitting in the background for any necessary support. Probably also a cyber attack at the same time against Iran’s military AND public utilities infrastructure by Israel.
Perhaps the opposition forces in Iran will be given a heads-up also, so they can mount a coup against the Regime, further distracting Iran.
@meamjojo
Iran KNOWS that, therefore, is giving the following WARNING to the traitor Kurdish groups, SPIES of MOSSAD, that if they dare to participate in Mossad’s criminal plan, Iran will hit them hard at Erbil by missiles, idiot, like what IR did in Jan. of 2024, a targeted missile attack at Erbil.
Iran is not a genocidal state like Israel, but will punish traitors to force them into their HOLES to stay there for a long time.
A credible information shows that the Kurdish groups, with direct support from the Zionists in the Iraq Kurdish Region, is planning to create insecurity and chaos in the Kurdish-populated areas of Iran. All movements of these terrorists, whether in Europe or in Erbil, are closely monitored by Iran.
Unfortunately, the Kurdish Region has taken on a wrong path by violating past security agreements. According to these commitments, armed groups were supposed to lay down their weapons and the wanted individuals should have been handed over to the Islamic Republic of Iran. However, not only these agreements have not been implemented, but they have continued their actions against the Iranian nation with the funding of the western foreign services and their information.
The important point is that one of the commitments and promises of the high-ranking officials of northern Iraq was to hand over the suspected individuals involved in the assassination of scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh to Iran. But not only they have not done that, but they are freely operating alongside of the officials in the Iraqi Kurdish Region. This criminal act will be a shameful stain on the region’s record. The security of the Iranian people is our red line, and if this act of betrayal continues, the Islamic Republic of Iran will take action to punish the criminals and traitors at the appropriate time and under the right circumstances, as has done before.
This clearly shows that the traitor KURD on behalf of Israel/US assassinated the scientist, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, but Iran did not assassinate the scum of humanity at the whore house in Washington and Tel Aviv.
An Iranian ballistic missile attack struck a home in Erbil, in the Kurdistan region of Iraq, on January 15, 2024, killing four civilians and injuring six others, Human Rights Watch said today.
everything you’ve just described, is an act of war, moron. israel is too cowardly to attack iran on their own. they need their big brother golem, to hide behind. turns out your golem has feet of clay and cold feet at that.
Agree with you.
I’m no fan of Trump.
But actually, it’s rather obvious that the mainstream media is, in general, extremely hostile toward Trump, and always has been — the term Trump Derangement Syndrome was coined in part due to the media’s unhinged rhetoric about Trump — of course the media literally controls the minds of many people, and as a result TDS acquired some virulence, spreading widely in the population.
So putting aside the ‘man bites dog’ nature of it, you have to be monumentally dishonest to describe one NYT article that appears to offer a moderately positive depiction of Trump in one particular instance as a ‘propaganda masterpiece’ — but Whitney is up to the job of being monumentally dishonest.
And by the way, use of boldface doesn’t make an argument any more convincing — it just makes the author look like an idiot who’s desperate for attention.
Don’t say.
As for
you guys slipped. Should’ve written
A suggestion: teens shouldn’t be posting here. Give them to write the material, BUT, edit it before posting. Ah, yes, and try to done done sexual and scatological stuff too. Most patrons here are Western boomers, some of them women.
And….. I believe those guys in Erbil are just great fellows. They’ll, most likely, lead the internal troubles for the regime in Teheran when the fireworks start. Good fighters to start with and with a bit of help from Western advisers and air support they’ll do well.
The big question now is = what is Trump’s true trajectory regarding war and peace? What is real and what is feint?
Here’s today’s knowledgeable and thoughtful analysis of that White House split from the guys at The Duran.
Russia, Iran and divisions in the White House
https://rumble.com/v6sahxv-russia-iran-and-divisions-in-the-white-house.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Is the shift key on your computer broken?
>israel is too cowardly to attack iran on their own.
Israel recently ‘attacked Iran on its own’, you fucking idiot — and years ago, Israel attacked Iraq on its own.
The Israeli Air Force is quite capable of attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities by itself — it has the aircraft, suitable munitions (GBU-28, maybe also the GBU-43), refueling capability, and access to necessary intelligence — the obvious question is how effective such a strike would be, given that some of Iran’s important nuclear facilities are underground.
The US has larger, penetrating bombs that can only be carried by e.g. the B-52 or the B-2 (GBU-57), aircraft which Israel does not have — these larger munitions would increase the chance that targets would be damaged or destroyed.
But aside from the question of whether such a mission is likely to do enough damage to Iran’s nuclear facilities, it would be insanely irresponsible for either Israel or the US to attack Iran.
Israel’s Foreign Minister Gideon Saar met British Foreign Secretary David Lammy in an unannounced trip to London. MEE understands that the two discussed Iran’s nuclear program and ongoing negotiations between Israel and Hamas – and that Lammy raised the need to end the blockade of Gaza and stop Israeli settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank.
The UK Foreign Office declined to comment. The visit this week by such a high-ranking Israeli minister will be seen as controversial, given the warrants issued by the International Criminal Court against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. Independent MP Ayoub Khan told MEE: “It is utterly disgraceful and profoundly disappointing that the UK government chose to host Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar in London, especially in private, at a time when Israel is carrying out one of the most devastating and brutal military campaigns in recent history.” He added: “Saar’s visit should never have been allowed. His rhetoric and policies stand in direct contradiction to international humanitarian law and basic human decency.”
Saar recently attempted to justify Israel’s decision to cut off aid to Gaza, saying, without evidence, that humanitarian assistance fuels Hamas.
Saar’s visit also comes amid strained relations between the UK and Israel. The British government has criticized Israel’s blockade of Gaza, including its decision to cut electricity from the Gaza Strip.
Shut up genocidal jew. I am, now more than ever, believe that you are a MOSSAD troll. You have fully exposed yourself. Go and read your zionist media to copy and post it here as your ‘comments’. The Kurd who works for the genocidal jews against Iran, will be executed, idiot.
It is.
Scary version: Trump, himself, does not know that. But, he has an excellent instinct for those things. Or that’s what his MAGA base, still, believes.
What could go wrong, a?
Trita Parsi at X, corroborating Whitney:
Just received from Larry Johnson–Sonar21.
Things don’t look good for Israel!
https://sonar21.com/inching-towards-a-deal-with-iran/?jetpack_skip_subscription_popup
Rubio is nothing but a clown messenger BOY. He is not the one who makes a decision, he is only a messenger boy for witkoff.
The ‘president’ has violated the ‘the nuclear talk’ rules of engagement by allowing Mossad agents who are advisors to genocidal Netanyahu be present at the same room as Jewish Mafia member, Steve Witkoff, is residing to exert influence on ‘nuclear negotiation’ between Iran & US by Israeli AGENTS. Does trump know what is he doing?
President of France hosted high-level talks Thursday to discuss Ukraine and its security, with
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and presidential envoy Steve Witkoff. At the same time Mossad chief, Dermer meet US envoy Witkoff in Paris ahead of US-Iran nuclear talks, Israel said looking to influence US position; Katz vows ‘whatever it takes’ to stop Iran from getting the bomb, as Iranian FM says deal possible if US isn’t ‘unrealistic’. This means Mossad is sending its agents to meet Jewish mafia member, witkoff, to make sure Iran be denied of her rights to ENRICHMENT, where is NOT acceptable to Iran. Iran should send a message to genocidal brainless ‘president’ that Iran is NOT in nuclear talk with Israel. Why are Mossad agents present at ALL these TALKS? Iran should leave immediately until the genocidal ‘president’ understands that he has violated the rules of the engagement.
If that is the only way to prevent Iran from deploying nukes, then it must be done.
Excellent analysis. Trump is 100% Kosher certified Zionist whore. He does what he is told. He has no vision, no moral foundation to do anything else.
The talks are to lay the foundation for an unjustified war. A war for Israel, another war for Israel, that will harm the United States.
The United States is in a tragedy of its own making. Surrendering its interests to the Jews has doomed it. The nation is going down because of our abundant and treacherous political whores like Trump.
Israel is NOT going to attack Iran. They will do what has worked for thousands of years, they’ll have the strongest Empire do it on their behalf.
Matthew 27:24 “Pilate saw that he wasn’t getting anywhere and that a riot was developing. So he sent for a bowl of water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this man’s blood. The responsibility is yours!””.
So, to avoid a riot he killed Jesus for the Jews. The Romans weren’t noted for their devotion to individual human rights, you see.
Shall we list the number of attacks by the U.S. on Israel’s “enemies” in the last 40 years? And Israel has not led the charge in ANY of them.
They’re just a bunch of loud-mouthed pussies.
I can’t even follow what you’re saying!
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Ron Dermer is not director of Mossad! Israel’s Strategic Affairs Ministry is mostly in charge of anti-BDS activity and Abraham Accords (and positively spinning Israel in the press, I think).
The director of Mossad is not staying at the same hotel in Rome as Witkoff, let alone in the same room! I think that’s what you were trying to say?
eah I am a fan of Trump. The failing NYTimes–and the rest of America’s media–despise Donald Trump, and heap criticism on his cabinet, whether it is deserved or not. Agreed that one positive article is hardly a “propaganda masterpiece”.
If one positive article in the NYTimes is propaganda for improving Trump’s public image in the United States (or to NYTimes readers?) then I wonder what Whitney considers the constant barrage of negative NYTimes articles about Trump. NYTimes had four years worth of TDS during Trump 1.0, another four during Biden admin, and is only getting started on years nine to 12 for Trump 2.0.
Also, NYTimes is run by Sulzburger family who have been ashamed of being Jews for the past 150 years. They prefer to think of themselves as Germans and do their best to avoid writing positively about hoi polloi eastern European Jews, let alone Israel.
*Gratuitous bold typeface added for Whitney drama llama effect
Yes, Ron Dermer is Israel’s strategic Affairs Minister, but he and MOSSAD Chief, David Barnea, met Witcoff before the nuclear talk in Paris and he was spotted at the same hotel witkoff was, in Rome. I am quoting this information from ‘the times of Israel’ and Jason Brodsky. Please note that there is comma between Dermer and Mossad chief:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-dermer-meet-us-envoy-witkoff-in-paris-ahead-of-us-iran-nuclear-talks/
And a genocidal Jew, Jason Brodsky, who is following these talks day and night revealed the information regarding Dermer being present at the same HOTEL that nuclear talk was taking place. He posted the following on his X:
When these Mossad agents go to Rome, all these Zionist Jews in the position of power are MOSSAD AGENTS, even the same Hotel and same CITY that these meetings are taking place, want to influence these talks. how could you tell anyone that they didn’t meet in a ROOM to talk? I din’t mean the same room that these talks are taking place, because if that was the case, the Iranians would have immediately left the place.
Why RON DERMER following Witkoff around and have been seen at the same place that these talks are taking place, first in Paris, to see Witkoff before the talk,, then in Rome at the same HOTEL, at the SAME TIME? Did they arrange a VACATION together in Paris and Rome earlier?
Why is Dermer, an American who renounced his citizenship to become a MOSSAD agent and a close advisor to genocidal Netanyahu should be meeting Witkoff before the nuclear talks in Paris, then in Rome at the SAME HOTEL? Why should close advisor to Netanyahu be following Witkoff?
Why should the US care the slightest about Israel? Because they invested in it, got black-mailed and having seduced churches all over the place worshipping the synagogue of satan, Rev 2:9, 3:9.
So by deception thou shalt wage war. Are NYT, Cyrus and Bibi deceptive? Without a doubt!
The genocidal Jew, Jason Brodsky, is pulling his hair out, why has Witkoff not pressured Iran enough to abandon its LEGAL enrichment program?
A member of he Jewish mafia tribe and a TERRORIST, Mark Dubowitz, is so ‘concerned’ that Iran has not been pressured enough and Israel is NOT the winner. The genocidal zionists are circulating the following FAKE NEWS on internet.
FUCK YOU TROLL,…..🖕🇮🇱
hey look, i got it working again.
“eah?”, the deaf mossad troll, disguised as a dumb canadian, mostly likely blind too, as you can’t find your ass with both hands. the last time ersatz israel (is not real, you fucking troll) “attacked” iran, your big brother was holding your delicate little hand but both of you were too cowardly to fly into iranian airspace, after the iranians had radar locks on your “stealth” fighters, you shot your load, tucked tail and ran like hell and in the words of roger waters, you’d better run like hell.
deaf, dumb and blind, you just keep on pretending that everyone’s expendable and no-one has a real friend …..
well iran has real friends, in russia and china and if you i.d.f. pigs on the wing, dare to try, hypersonic missiles, will fly and fall like rain on your illegally occupied apartheid state and no, israel doesn’t have any real friends, only servants. you are the most hated pariah, rogue state in the history of the world, FUCK OFF, YOU ASHCAN NAZI!🗑️
Something STRANGE has happened. A genocidal Jew and Mossad agent who supported the genocide in Gaza and is part of the Iranian opposition group to topple Irnian government trough military strike, Iraq Styple, now is supporting Iran’s LEGAL NUCLEAR PROGRAM attacking the US.
She said on her X the following:
VOW, Iran republic must have done something GREAT to bring her ZIONIST ENEMIES, in as the supporters of its LEGAL NUCLEAR PROGRAM, against a genocidal entity that she used to work for. Islamic republic is getting more supports, even from her enemies.
Recently, a staunch enemy of Iran and a colony of US, MBS from Saudi Arabia, expressed the same thing on his Twitter account. It is the time for the genocidal regime to kiss Iran’s behind to apologize, then drop death.
Trump must destroy Israel’s ILLEGAL nuclear weapon factory, then force Israel to be a member of NPT, and put its nuclear program under stringent inspection by the UN inspectors, like what the criminal WEST did to Iran. In addition, Israel MUST BE SANCTIONED until is dead. Otherwise he has NO credibility.
Here is a genocidal zionist from a terrorist Organization, ‘United against Nuclear Iran’ UANI, where his behind is ON FIRE, because Netanyahu has not been successful, so far, to create a condition based on LIES and DECEPTION to push the United State to WAR for Israel to expand its borders. Netanyah’s advisor,Ron Dermer, was following Witkoff around the world to influence the nuclear talk to benefit Netanyahu’s plan, to stage a military strike on Iran to bring WAR between US and Iran. Netanyahu’s ass is ON FIRE. The following VIDEO tells it all:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1913996292914663875
Iran’s over the horizon radar may be a came-changer, as Iran will instantly know when any aircraft enters the air space over Israel including Netanyahu’s own helicopter.
And yet, Trump is President of the US, possibly the most powerful man in the world, while you are a random internet denizen talking trash from your mothers basement.
That ankle-biter just can’t help himself.
A little more than half a year ago, he really laid the bullshit on thick, hawking incredibly weak hasbara about Israeli Jews being mostly secular and holding ‘fairly reasonable views’, then blaming any resistance to their hegemonic endeavors for the ongoing genocide:
When I took him to task for this, he fell mute.
He needs to get laid. And fast.
Public life in the USA is nothing much but a squabble between various factions of the Jewintern. The Jew York Times represents an anti-Satanyahoo cabal, not keen on the destruction that would accompany a war on Iran, for which Jews might very well be blamed.