When NBC’s Lester Holt asked President Joe Biden what might prompt him to send U.S. troops to rescue Americans fleeing Ukraine, Biden replied: “There’s not. That’s a world war when Americans and Russia start shooting at one another.”
“It’s not like we’re dealing with a terrorist organization. We’re dealing with one of the largest armies in the world. … Things could go crazy quickly.”
Biden was saying Americans are not going to fight Russians in Ukraine, even to protect or extract imperiled U.S. troops, diplomats or citizens.
Speaking last week on the Senate floor, Sen. Ted Cruz echoed Biden: “I want to be clear and unequivocal. … Under no circumstances should we send our sons and daughters to die to defend Ukraine from Russia.”
The question the Biden and Cruz comments immediately raise?
Has not Russian President Vladimir Putin pretty much already realized his principal goal in this crisis — that Ukraine never become a member of NATO?
For if Biden and Cruz are unwilling to send U.S. troops to Ukraine to repel Russian invaders, how could the U.S. bring Ukraine into NATO, where, under Article 5, it would be both our moral and legal obligation to do so?
After meeting with Putin, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said of Ukraine’s admission to NATO: “Everyone must step back a bit here and make it clear to themselves that we just can’t have a possible military conflict over a question that is not on the agenda.”
The Germans seem to be saying Ukraine’s membership in NATO is not even on the table for discussion and decision. It is a nonissue.
Again, if Putin has been given private assurances that Ukraine will never be a member of NATO, he would appear to have gotten his nonnegotiable demand, as long as he does not crow about his victory.
And if Ukraine is not going to be a member of NATO, Georgia, a far smaller and far less populous nation, even farther east than Ukraine, is not going to become a NATO member either.
Who in the West, outside of Kyiv, is now demanding it?
The next items on Putin’s menu appear to be the rebellious provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.
Tuesday, the Duma, the Russian parliament, voted to ask Putin to recognize the breakaway regions as “sovereign and independent states.”
Thursday, artillery fire was reported from the pro-Russian rebel side.
Recognition of Luhansk and Donetsk as independent republics would end the Minsk peace process that foresees their reunification with Ukraine, but with Kyiv granting the two regions greater autonomy.
But if Putin has gotten assurances Ukraine will not be a member of NATO, and if he is about to make his next move, with 160,000 Russian troops still on the borders of Ukraine, it seems premature to declare Biden the victor in the crisis.
For who is demanding that Ukraine be brought into NATO now?
Who is calling for military action to keep Ukraine a de facto ally?
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has challenged Russia’s announcement that it was returning some troops to their bases, saying satellite imagery suggested the opposite was happening.
“They have increased the number of troops and more troops are on their way. So, so far, no de-escalation,” Stoltenberg said.
“The new normal is that Russia has demonstrated that it … is willing to contest some of the fundamental principles for our security, the right for every nation to choose its own path.”
Putin does not threaten any vital interest of the United States and does not want war with the United States. But, as a great power, Russia claims a right to secure, peaceful and friendly borders, free of military alliances designed to circumscribe, contain and control it.
And the protests Moscow is making are not without validity?
Now that the Soviet Empire is dead, the Soviet Union is dead. Communism is dormant, and the USSR has devolved into 15 nations; why did we move our Cold War alliance onto Moscow’s front porch?
Would we tolerate this?
For what is “NATO enlargement,” other than a lengthening series of U.S. war guarantees to fight Russia on behalf of nations farther and farther away from us, and of ever-diminishing importance to the United States?
On March 1, 1917, the story broke of a secret cable from German Foreign Minister Arthur Zimmermann to his minister in Mexico City, to make an offer to the government.
If war erupted between Germany and the U.S., the Zimmermann Telegram read, and Mexico sided with Germany, a victorious Second Reich would support the return of “the lost territory in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.”
Enraged at Germany’s offer to make Mexico its ally and to support the breakup of our country, the U.S., five weeks later, declared war on Germany.
Can we not understand the rising rage in Moscow as we convert all its former Warsaw Pact allies and ex-republics of the USSR into member states of a military alliance established to contain and control Russia?
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”
> “Has not Russian President Vladimir Putin pretty much already realized his principal goal in this crisis — that Ukraine never become a member of NATO?”
Self-important Americans seem to believe their own telepathic powers rather than Russia’s own statements on the subject. Russia’s security re the whole of East Europe is the primary concern. Ukraine is not a particular focus for Russia, though Ukraine is the focus of the US Empire. Ie. for Russia the focus is security guarantees, especially removal of foreign NATO forces from the territory of East European countries
Putin should just keep his forces surrounding Ukraine and Georgia at a ready to invade at a moments notice in case the US decides to station nukes in those countries, because, as everyone knows, the US cannot be trusted on any matter.
What to do about the Eastern provinces which want to be part of Russia is a problem though. Another 5 years of stalemate in the matter will be nice for peace, but not for the embattled people of those regions. How people survived the 30 year war from 1618 to 1648 defies belief, but Russians are even tougher than those folks.
In 2024 Russia will be under no obligation to continue transiting gas through Ukraine, so Ukraine will loose its only guaranteed source of revenue. Together with some few shells fired in the Eastern regions intermittently and constant saber rattling by the Russian forces on Ukraine’s borders it means investment in Ukraine will be non-existent so the assorted Jews and Nazis America put in charge of Ukraine will really be feeling the heat by then, maybe they’ll emigrate to Canada.
The US doesn’t have enough money to prop up both Israel and the Ukraine.
Did Pat’s intern Consider whether any are medical students? Dutch wasn’t afraid of Grenada!
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So Germany would “support” Mexico. Anything other than words was unlikely, as Germany was engaged in a war on two fronts and in no position to actually send significant military force to support Mexico, assuming Mexico even wanted to try to do anything.
Wilson wanted a justification for bringing the US into the war and was happy to find one, even though it was very weak. As Major General Smedley Butler showed, however, it made a lot of people very rich.
Stand-off-wise, the US and NATO blinked and Putin again refused to take the bait. The covert operations and sanctions will continue though. This was a battle prevented – war still looms so long as Zion wants war.
The idea of honoring treaty obligations in good faith was discarded in U.S. politics decades ago even as a convenient pretense. This tracks pretty well with the decline of the old WASP establishment and the Judaification of American politics via neoconservatism and neoliberalism. Neo is just a euphemism for “Jewish.”
Opportunism has always colored international relations and it’s not a categorically-bad thing. Nations’ interests change over time as the world changes. Pat’s written some good stuff before about why permanent commitments are bad for nations and the need to temper overly-moralized and evangelized views of international relations.
But the kind of two-faced duplicity and “because you can’t stop us” arrogance exhibited by the US in breaking promises re: NATO expansion and breaking the Iranian nuclear deal isn’t the result of changed circumstances and can’t be justified It’s self-defeating because other nations have no reason to trust us and no good will is possible when you treat everyone like this.
If the US continues to ape its Jewish paymasters and treat the rest of the world like Palestinians, the world will eventually make us pay for it.
The constant drip of staged Russian atrocities that began with a downed Malaysian (for some reason Malaysia always takes the hit on these- why?) airliner. For some reason, the NATO stalwart Netherlands is put in charge of the ‘investigation’. Most recently, ‘Russian backed separatists shelled a school’. Meanwhile a failed color revolution in Kazakhstan and Belarus. The Angl0-American playbook is relentless pressure. The idea seems to be to keep throwing big punches at Russia until they miss one. The faith they have in their magic missile shields is a testament to their monumental arrogance. The DC-London-Jerusalem Axis really seem to think a benevolent deity will always hand them the final victory. It’s like believing nothing could ever go wrong with your computer.
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Correct, except that everything we’ve touched internationally since about 1917 has turned into a smoking pile of rubble. The “Great” thirty years war of 1915-1945 only succeeded in destroying the most highly civilized and developed people on earth. All the “Little” wars since then have succeeded in killing peasant farmers and poor American boys.
Putin knows how to play chess. Chess is a bloodless game. I think his repeated “checks” have us backing ignorantly into a very clever checkmate. Biden has been considered a moron by everyone in D.C. ever since he became the Jersey mob’s Senator. (I know he’s from Delaware, but Delaware only exists as a convenient locale for corporate paper residencies.) Now he’s a mindless front for the bigger mob of the Anglo-Semitic hegemon.
The halycon days where the US expanded NATO east are over; US Government is shocked that another great power stood up and said no; American officials do not care how they would react if Russia tried to form alliance with Mexico or Canada as implausible as that is; American officials are masters of hypocrisy; they have ”Monroe Doctrine” and demand a sphere of influence but want hostile military alliance on Russia’s western flank; they accuse Russia of duplicity when US Government are the biggest liars on the planet; with the vote in the Duma about recognition of Luhansk and Donetsk Kiev can deal with reality now that it has officially been disabused of any notion US/NATO the west will come to its rescue; it can implement Minsk accords or have Russia recognize the two Republics essentially ceding the eastern part of Ukraine. As for Biden warning Americans of hardships if Russia invades Ukraine; I am certain American citizens dont want higher food and gas prices because of a country most could not care less about; as for analogy to the Cuban Missile Crisis perhaps Putin has been privately assured that Ukraine and Georgia or any other former Soviet republics will never be admitted into NATO much like Kennedy secretly agreed to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey. US must keep up the fiction that Ukraine may one day be admitted into NATO because American officials given their aversion to reality cannot accept that a rival great power that in this case enjoys military and strategic superiority has stopped its hegemonic ambitions. Russian military could drive NATO into the Atlantic if it wanted to.
Do I know what’s really going on? No, and neither do you – especially with with our mass media and establishment so corrupt and dishonest.
But I do know this: Biden is irrelevant, he’s a mouthpiece. His stupidity is useful, because his senility can take the blame for what may often be the calculated malice of the people really in charge. It also perhaps lets the enemies of the elites underestimate just how clever the elites really are. Parsing the logic of what is said is so 20th century. This isn’t classical music, it’s jazz.
The western elites are completely insulated from the consequences of their actions. If western economies decline, so what? As long as the parasites are in control, they personally will do fine. Let the Western European populace freeze in the winter, let there be hyperinflation, or even food shortages: so what?
The western elites are utterly amoral, and vicious, and they have no shame, and almost unlimited financial resources. A state of chaos and confusion might suite them just fine. It doesn’t matter that it looks absurd that Biden predicted an invasion that didn’t occur – so what? The western elites have so much power that they can just razzle-dazzle us and throw everything at the wall and sooner or later something will stick. Maybe the Ukrainians will attack the Russian break-away regions, forcing a Russian response and that will justify sanctions and all of that. Even without that, the stage has been set for massive shipments of arms to the region and boosted defense contractor profits. The recent attempted coups in Kazakstan and Belorussia have failed – that’s OK, the western elites are no doubt planning for another go, and they only have to win once. Meanwhile they will be constantly trying to fund dissident groups inside Russia, or make cozy sweetheart deals with officials there, etc. Maybe they will start a new Chechen war. The western elites have the luxury of assaulting Putin’s Russia from multiple angles, at their choosing
Putin seems to be a very smart and even patriotic man, but he can never actually win. He can only avoid losing, for now.
Remember a real country wouldn’t have made it a competition in the first place. Instead would have worked out how to make it come to mutual advantage.
If Nato truly has an “open door” policy then Russia should apply to join.
NATO is an anti-Russian alliance; its very existence is predicated that Russia is a threat; Russia would never be allowed to join NATO; Im not sure if your comment is sarcasm. NATO has open door policy only for countries that do not cause any trouble; such as Montenegro and North Macedonia; which are small insignificant countries with no military value. The original plan in 2008 was to invite Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO to spite Russia but it was not anticipated then that Russia would rebuild her Military and object. Russia is strong now and could easily defeat NATO so US/NATO cannot let Ukraine Georgia in.
If Trump wants to end this fight for good, he better call out the Jewish Power.
He needs to tell the world, “Jews control the West and Jews are stirring up trouble all over.”
Only thus will Jewish Power be named and blamed. Otherwise, unnamed and unblamed, Jews will keep cooking up new BS to torment humanity.
Thanks for that, Ivan
Russia is losing everywhere in the world.
Putin knows it and that’s why Putin is so angry.
Many people who dislike American foreign policy have as a result become knee-jerk pro-Russian.
That’s is absurd logic.
Max, countries do not want to join Russia.
This is a hard pill to swallow I know.
Russia is in decline.
As he did in Crimea, I’ll never understand why Putin did not accept eastern Ukraine’s request to become a part of the Russian Federation.
Trump had 4 years and he dindu nuffin.
USA is in decline as well; it just has more power and temporary cash to bribe; Russia just wants respect and security; it is testimony to sheer stupidity that US would want an alliance with Ukraine a nation irrelevant to US interests while pushing Russia the largest country in the world into an alliance with China.
There was nothing wrong – morally or politically – with the telegram. Germany was simply making a proposal that ONLY in the event of a war between itself and America, that Mexico might be enticed into helping Germany to regain territories lost at an earlier time. Such an alliance would only come about if war broke out and could ONLY happen if America was the aggressor declaring war, since Germany had no intention of declaring war on the USA. WHY SHOULDN’T Germany have sought out any allies it could if it found itself at war with America? Didn’t the Entente bring in ally after ally, Italy in 1915, Romania in 1916, by promising them portions of Austria-Hungary? Germany was only trying to give America the problem it had faced for three years, fighting a war on two fronts. Had America been a truly neutral country from the beginning the telegram would never have been sent. American neutrality was a sham from day one.
The open door is only for countries accepting American-Zionist hegemony.
I appreciate the insights of the commentariat for Pat’s articles. Is it too reductive to attribute this bullshit to the Neocons’ whacko machinations for Greater Israel?
Max, it would simply demonstrate how empty Nato rhetoric is.
If Nato is open to ALL ex-Soviet nations then why not Russia? It, after all is an ex-Soviet nation.
We need a new torchbearer. Trump doesn’t have the mental capacity or the verbal acuity to do what is necessary at this juncture. He doesn’t need to be so graphic, but he does need to bell the cat in order to move on.
I have confidence that Putin will win this match without causing total global disruption. Biden doesn’t care or even know what the stakes are.
America is looking incompetent, awkward and stupid over there. You might have been able to get away with this nonsense when there was no internet but there is and a surprising number of people are beginning to understand how to use it. There is nowhere to hide, USA has become the neighborhood bully that no one likes or trusts, an international terrorist state that is broke and needs a war as a distraction to save it’s wallowing economy. Won’t work this time, you shit the bed, we’re on to you.
Hindsight is 20/20, but one wonders how different the situation in Donbass might be today if Putin had re-annexed its Russian-speaking former territory at the same time he liberated Crimea from the Ukie neo-Nazis – yeah, the bullies who destroyed the Ukraine’s democracy in 2014 in a CIA-orchestrated color revolution.
The Donbas (essentially composed of the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk) composes only the eastern most part of Ukraine, a small territory of the largest country exclusively in Europe. When Russia liberated Crimea from the Ukies after the 2014 neo-Nazi coup in Kiev, it does seem like it would have been an easy task (though what do I know sitting in my living room) for Putin to liberate those areas at the same time. If he had acceded to their request, what could the US aggressors have done beside complain bitterly to the UN, with John McCain going on ‘Face the Nation’ to shake his fist at the evil Russian “dictator?”
Now, the forces of NATO aggression have had time to provide substantial modern weaponry to the Ukies, and it appears certain that it would be a much tougher task for the Russian army. I wonder if Putin ever has second thoughts for not admitting those breakaway territories back into Mother Russia eight years ago?
Putin is ex-KGB. Golem Biden’s competence is mediocre lawyerism.
Ukraine is not the Enemy, US is.
USA has been very happy to fight its’ financial wars with bombs in any and every country in the world.
In the last 50 years, the wars have been about oils and pipelines.
This war is about money, oil money. When Nordstream-2 goes live Russia can deliver 50%-60% or more, of Europe’s oil. This means that Exxon, Shell, BP, Mobil and Total no longer control the price of the major energy consumers.
Germany, particularly, want Russian energy to fuel any industrial expansion and compete with Taiwan and S Korea for machine sales.
US is willing to sacrifice Europe to maintain its’ hegemony.
Russia needs to make very clear that if it is attacked with weapons or with sanctions, the war will come directly to the US heartland.
USA will never care until such time as Americans are being hurt. This is exactly what Biden-handlers want. Something to unify the US people and get off their backs.
On the other hand, if Putin is smart, he will hit 4 West coast ports and 6 East coast port plus one for Washington and one for London.
(London gets one just to rid the world of Bozo.)
Ask the Iranians, just for example, how much an Amerikastani signature on a binding legal agreement is worth, forget about a “private assurance”.
Russia is nowhere in the world like the US and its vassals, and Russia knows it. All it cares about is its own security.
NATO exists ” to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out.” The entire raison d’etre of NATO is that Russia is a threat; if Russia were allowed to join there would be no point for NATO’s existence. And it would be dissolved which is what the US government fears most. Look how they react to suggestions the European Union should build its own defense force independent of NATO.
Putin doesn’t need to nuke anybody. He’s already won. Just having these girly-men and manny-girls all in a dither is his victory.
What must happen, will happen. Europe must buy Russian gas or die. Russia must control Ukraine or let Nuland be their Big Nurse dictator.
It’s simple. Russia can out threaten NATO and EU, because it costs them very little. How much of our phony money has to go into us threatening Putin. A lot. We’re soon not to have the phony dollars to fall back on. Very soon.
The peoples of eastern Europe and Russia need to remember that they’re all mostly Slavs, and mostly Christians. ZOG has used NATO to divide them. ZOG used Bolshevism to divide them previously. ZOG is using Bolshevism’s heir Neoconservatism+Fake Liberalism to divide Americans. The world is increasingly wise to ZOG.
Is ZOG Anglo? No. It’s infiltrated the Anglosphere, though. Is ZOG Jewish? No. It infiltrated the Jews long ago, though. ZOG has no constituency, other than the Worse Angels of man’s nature.
With no constituency and no host, ZOG too shall pass.
Excellent and spot on – as ever. Thank you Mr. Buchanon.
West has built bioweaponry labs in Ukraine.
West has been shelling Russia from Ukraine for some time now.
West /NATO has moved into eastern Europe despite minsk agreement when the Berlin wall fell.
US CIA deposed Ukraine’s elected leader and installed a puppet leading to…..
NATO started amassing troops on Russia’s border in Ukraine in 2014.
If the situation were reversed with Russia setting up shop in Canada, the US would have declared war years ago.
Putin has won the world’s respect with his restraint.
The US no longer has the world’s love and respect that it had after 9/11.
Prior to killing / destruction , the dark ones first demonize in order to put a nice spin on murder.
The US is really the country in the cross hairs.
“All of the plans of the dark ones to harm others backfire back onto themselves; their enemies are blessed.”
What invaders? There are 12-15 mil Russians living in their historical land of East Ukraine. Pat needs a refresher course on the subject area.
The author of this Herald-Sun op-ed would say, rightly, that you know very little about Ukraine and appear to be the victim of Russia’s effective lying propaganda
Putin denies Ukraine’s right to exist
At an extraordinary meeting of the Russia’s Security Council, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin openly declared war on Ukraine in a hate-filled rant, denying the existence of a nation of 44 million in a territory larger than France.
In 1939, under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, signed with the USSR in 1939, Adolph Hitler similarly denied Poland’s existence, and the signatories soon invaded. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, occupying its Crimean peninsula and then the Donbas region, creating two fake “republics” as a smokescreen. The Kremlin’s strategy was effective, with terms like “separatists”, “rebels” and “civil war” being widely used to describe Russian occupation forces.
When Russia invaded Ukraine it was neutral under its Constitution, and a majority of Ukrainians did not want NATO membership, so NATO is not the issue. Neither is the issue one of “protection of Russian speakers,” which has often been raised by Putin as a justification for his invasions. President Zelensky is a Russian speaker, as are most members of Ukraine’s military.
Under the Minsk peace process, since 2015 Putin’s strategy was to insert the fake “republics” back into Ukraine as a “Trojan Horse” to apply a veto over its westward pivot to the EU and NATO, which due to the invasions and loss of 14,000 Ukrainian lives is now supported by 65% of Ukrainians.
Minsk failed because Russian forces did not ceased fire, withdraw, or allow the OSCE to monitor, and refused UN peacekeepers. Putin’s current position that “Ukrainian lands belong to Russia” is based on his widely discredited historical thesis that “Russians and Ukrainians are the same people,” a bizarre justification for an invasion that would result in thousands of deaths on both sides.
Putin’s recognition of the independence of the fake “republics” and the massive build-up of troops around Ukraine signals an ominous change in strategy to now favour a larger-scale invasion, the biggest war in Europe since 1945.
Washington seems to be suggesting Russia’s recognition of the fake “republics” is not a “major incursion” and should not attract full economic sanctions. If so, Putin will have scored another victory in his war on the Ukrainian state.
In the midst of threats from Moscow the calm dignity of Ukrainians has been nothing short of amazing. President Zelensky’s response was: “We are committed to a peaceful and diplomatic path. We are on our land. We are not afraid of anything or anyone. It is not 2014. Our country is different. Our army is different. We owe nothing to anyone and will not give anything to anyone.”
Dr Michael Lawriwsky was formerly Chair of the Ukrainian Studies Foundation at Monash University
That’s going to be the problem. The population the Russians are annexing are ethnic Russian. Biden’s move next.
Monash University you say? Wasn’t he an Australian General of Jewish ethnicity? It’s no shock that when you install an actor for a president from the theatrical tribe you get these disasters. Zelensky reminds me of Bela Kun who ran Hungary for a few months.
What are you saying? Yes, General Sir John Monash was the brilliant engineer turned businessman who rose from being a part time soldier to being Lloyd George’s pick for Commander-in-Chief if the war had not ended when it did. His parents were Prussian Jews but he went to Scotch College, the oldest of Melbourne’s traditional private “public” schools. He created Victoria’s state owned electricity industry in the 1920s and has had many institutions named after him. An old judge whom I knew who was far from pro Jewish admired him enormously. He not only belonged to the same weekend walking club, the judge said that any solicitor who had not retained Monash as expert witness when he could have was prima facie guilty of negligence!
Yes, what’s your point? Dr Lawriwsky was a professor at a different university BTW. And why does Zelensky remind you of the Bela Kun’s short career? BK was a journalist and Communist. Zelensky is neither.
Your recent posts reek of desperation. Time to find those old sock puppets at the back of the drawer.