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Everyone with a brain already knew the Empire did it. Now Seymour Hersh’s bombshell report not only details how Nord Stream 1 and 2 were attacked, but also names names: from the toxic Straussian neoliberal-con trio Sullivan, Blinken and Nuland all the way to the Teleprompter Reader-in-Chief.
Arguably the most incandescent nugget in Hersh’s narrative is to point ultimate responsibility directly at the White House. The CIA, for its part, gets away with it. The whole report may be read as the framing of a scapegoat. A very fragile, shoddy scapegoat – what with those classified documents in the garage, the endless stares into the void, the cornucopia of incomprehensible mumbling, and of course the whole, ghastly, years-long family corruption carousel in and around Ukraine, still to be completely unveiled.
Hersh’s report happened to pop up immediately after the deadly earthquakes in Turkey/Syria. This is an investigative journalism earthquake in itself, straddling over fault lines and revealing countless open air fissures, nuggets of truth gasping for air amidst the rubble.
But is that all there is? Does the narrative hold from start to finish? Yes and no. First of all, why now? This is a leak – essentially from one Deep State insider, Hersh’s key source. This 21st century “Deep Throat” remix may be appalled at the toxicity of the system, but at the same time he knows that whatever he says, there will be no consequences.
Cowardly Berlin – ignoring the nuts and bolts of the scheme all along – will not even squeak. After all the Green gang has been ecstatic, because the terror attack has thoroughly advanced their medieval de-industrialization agenda. In parallel, as an extra bonus, all the other European vassals receive further confirmation this is the fate that awaits them if they don’t follow His Master’s Voice.
Hersh’s narrative frames the Norwegians as the essential accessory to terror. Hardly surprising: NATO’s Jens “Peace is War” Stoltenberg has been a CIA asset for perhaps half a century. And Oslo of course had its own motives to be part of the deal; to collect loads of extra cash selling whatever spare energy it had for desperate European customers.
A little narrative problem is that Norway, unlike the U.S. Navy, still does not have any operational P-8 Poseidon. What was clear at the time is that an American P-8 was commuting back and forth – with mid-air refueling – from the U.S. to Bornholm island.
A positive screamer is that Hersh – rather, his key source – had the MI6 completely vanish from the narrative. SVR, Russian intel, had focused like a laser on MI6 at the time, as well as the Poles. What still cements the narrative is that the combo behind “Biden” provided the planning, the intel and coordinated the logistics, while the final act – in this case a sonar buoy detonating the C4 explosives – may have been perpetrated by the Norwegian vassals.
The problem is the buoy may have been dropped by an American P-8. And there’s no explanation of why one of the sections of Nord Stream 2 escaped intact.
Hersh’s modus operandi is legendary. From the perspective of a foreign correspondent on the ground since the mid-1990s, from the U.S. and NATOstan to all corners of Eurasia, it’s easy for someone like me to understand how he uses anonymous sources and how he accesses – and protects – his extensive list of contacts: trust works both ways. His track record is absolutely unrivalled.
But of course the possibility remains: what if he is being played? Is this no more than a limited hangout? After all, the narrative oscillates wildly between minute detail and quite a few dead ends, constantly featuring a huge paper trail and too many people in the loop – which implies exaggerated risk. The CIA hesitating too much to go for the kill is a certified red alert throughout the narrative – especially when we know that the ideal underwater actors for such an op would have come from the CIA Special Activities Division, and not the U.S. Navy.
What will Russia do?
Arguably the whole planet is thinking what will be the Russian response.
Surveying the chessboard, what the Kremlin and the Security Council see is Merkel confessing Minsk 2 was merely a ruse; the imperial attack on the Nord Streams (they got the picture, but might not have all the insider details provided by Hersh’s source); former Israeli PM Bennett on the record detailing how the Anglo-Americans killed the Ukraine peace process which was on track in Istanbul last year.
So it’s no wonder that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has made it clear that when it comes to nuclear negotiations with the Americans, any proposed gestures of goodwill are “unjustified, untimely and uncalled for.”
The Ministry, on purpose, and somewhat ominously, was very vague on a key issue: “strategic nuclear forces objects” that have been attacked by Kiev – helped by the Americans. These attacks may have involved “military-technical and information-intelligence” aspects.
When it comes to the Global South, what the Hersh report imprints is Rogue Superpower, in giant blood red letters, as state sponsor of terrorism: the ritual burial – at the bottom of the Baltic Sea – of international law, and even the Empire’s tawdry ersatz, the “rules-based international order”.
It will take some time to fully identify which Deep State faction may have used Hersh to promote its agenda. Of course he’s aware of it – but that would never have been enough to keep him away from researching a bombshell (three months of hard work). The U.S. mainstream media will do everything to suppress, censor, demean and ignore his report; but what matters is that across the Global South it is already spreading like wildfire.
Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Lavrov has gone totally unplugged, much like Medvedev, denouncing how the U.S. has “unleashed a total hybrid war” against Russia, with both nuclear powers now on a path of direct confrontation. And as Washington has declared the “strategic defeat” of Russia as its goal and turned bilateral relations into a ball of fire, there can be no “business as usual” anymore.
The Russian “response” – even before Hersh’s report – has been on another level entirely; advanced de-dollarization across the spectrum, from the EAEU to BRICS and beyond; and total reorientation of trade towards Eurasia and other parts of the Global South. Russia is establishing firm conditions for further stability, already foreseeing the inevitable: the time to frontally deal with NATO.
As kinetic responses go, facts on the battleground show Russia further crushing the American/NATO proxy army in full Strategic Ambiguity mode. The terror attack on the Nord Streams of course will always be lurking in the background. There will be blowback. But that will be at a time, manner and place of Russia’s choosing.
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Seymore Hersh has been letting cats out of bags for fifty-five years ……will this cat scratch?…..Norway in on it plus buy-in from Sweden ,Poland , Denmark.
Why destroying Nord Stream is a good thing:
1. Destroys Europe’s critical dependence on Russia
2. Shakes up nationalist movements across the EU
3. Stirs things up in political swamps worldwide
4. Advancing the infiltration of white Europe by Islamic invaders
5. Contributes to the demise of the NWD narrative
Have you noticed how anti-Fauci/anti-Bill Gates/anti-deviancy/anti-CRT is gaining momentum?
It’s like watching Bill Clinton dancing with drunken Boris Yeltsin… with Putin in the front row with a devilish grin on his face.
Use your brains and fill in the blanks for more good things to come.
The part of Hersh’s narrative about the use of the Navy eliminating the requirement to inform the requisite Congressional committee of a clandestine operation is a mighty thin fig leaf, though I suppose our supine Congress will barely make a peep about it, and won’t press the CIA on its role.
Russia should feel free, then, under the “rules based” order of things to, say, take out Hoover Dam with hypersonic missiles and scuttle Norway’s North Sea oil rigs.
But just relax folks, didn’t they announce that all we need do in a nuclear conflagration is gather a few items, head to the basement, and tune in the radio for further instructions? “Gosh Wally, nuclear war sure sounds neat!” “Sure Beav, nothin’ to it! Now go brush your teeth and clean up your bedroom before Mom and Dad get home.”
Vicky Nudelman told Ted Cruz that she was glad the pipeline was now a pile of junk, just as he wanted. Even whacky Judge Napolitano is stunned that Rand Paul has said nothing about this impeachable act. They are all owned, and sleepwalking toward Armageddon. Reports say Russia is in the process of changing its nuclear first strike protocols.
https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2592
When Russian announced the change in strategy for its Special Military Operation by announcing mobilization, I predicted the stupidity of “weakening Russia” would not end well. It may well end much worse than I imagined.
You’d have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not comprehend what’s taking place all around us. The only thing keeping this shitshow together are the SNL Laugh Track Machines running 24/7/365 in the background.
Together with the Film Actors Guild (((FAG))), Jewlensky and the Illegitimate Kosher Regimes will make sure you’re entertained by the greatest Magik Negroz and LGBTIQPWXYZ freaks the world have ever known, while Russia slaughters Ukrainians force feed into meat grinders on the battlefield.
And Disney/MARVEL will make sure your kids are taught CRT by the finest drag queens, pedophiles, dykes and cocksucker entertainers money can buy.
Next up – Negro Football League Super Bowl Weekend
don’t worry, the russians are laughing their ass off, at the predicable zioneocons blowing up the pipeline, that the russians didn’t really want but built, to advance relations with hure murkel. that hersh has been called out of retirement, proves to me that the brandon administration is done, fork them and flip ’em. just like the mai lai massacre, sy hersh has been allowed the ultrarare opportunity to speak the truth and to pull down a politically inconvenient deepstate servant. what’s coming next, your guess is as good as mine.
could be.
“Next up – Negro Football League Super Bowl Weekend”
with the twerking contest at halftime.
Doing it fo da chillens.
Wake me up when all the Majik Negroz become extinct via gain of function directed dna targeted pandemic that ends their existence on earth.
I have a theory. China saw that the Ukraine proxy war was escalating its way to Armageddon, and thought, “Armageddon bad, we need to do something. Specifically, we Chinese must furnish America with a putative alternate enemy threat; a substitute expensive military adventure. But we don’t want to do anything to spook these idiots too badly. Anyone? General Wang of the People’s Balloon Ministry, your hand is up…do you have an idea? “
Super Bowl Sunday. What are the chances that one of the players will do his best Damar Hamlin impersonation — with his heart bursting, on-camera, a minute or two before the halftime show?
What a way for the hand of God to pull back the curtain on the true nature of the Gates/Fauci/Bourla kill shot, before an audience of about a billion worldwide.
The part here I find questionable is the “three months hard work” bit. Hersch is 86 years old, and this story was handed to him on a platter. Everything he writes is quite plausible, but not necessarily true. And there is no way an Average Joe in the middle of Indiana can tell the truths, the half-truths, and lies apart. Not yet, anyhow.
“Somebody” is clearly spinning the story. I’m sure the Big Picture as presented by Hersch is correct, but the details can matter.
Nothing about Israel??? could this had been carried out without Israeli green light??
Wang Lin of People’s Bureau of Inflatable Objects. Flying Dildo.
Hunter Biden… Burisma… Joe the Shithole… Afghanistan… Ukraine… Nord Stream…It’s like the CIA decided on the worst death scene ever for the U.S. empire-
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Of course it was a limited hangout, I wrote as much on Moon Of Alabama on Day One of Hersh’ article. I’m also convinced that the fact that Liz Truss’ message on the pipeline blasts was ignored is no accident; it proves that Hersh is in on the hangout.
I can dream can’t I?
Redmen Chiefs facing dem Black Eagles from Philly—–the Ravens not Poe enough to Win —then watch a Flintstone re-run—Bedlam in Bedrock.
Dimitry Peskov regarding Nord Stream’s destruction (9th of Feb. 2023 in response to JewYolkTimes):
“It’s impossible to leave this without finding the perpetrators and punishing them.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/571231-kremlin-nord-stream-us/
Speaker of the Russian parliament Vyacheslav Volodin:
“If Truman became a criminal, who used nuclear weapons against civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then Biden became a terrorist, who ordered the destruction of the energy infrastructure of his strategic partners: Germany, France, the Netherlands.”
“…an act of intimidation of its vassals, who decided to develop their economy in the interests of their own citizens…bring Biden and his accomplices to justice.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/571210-biden-volodin-nord-stream/
George W. Bush started the desirability of Ukrainian and Georgian accession into NATO. The US-backed 2004 “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine brought to power President Viktor Yushchenko who put NATO accession at the top of his foreign policy even though it was in clear contradiction with the country’s Declaration of Sovereignty of July 16, 1990.
Before this, Bush unilaterally tore apart the ABM Treaty and started to build a global strategic missile defense system, including its position site in Europe which was seen by Russia as a threat given the NATO weapon’s strike capabilities.
George W Bush was also in Florida reading “My Pet Goat” September 11, 2001.
Perhaps the only way the CIA sees for the US to extricate itself from the Ukraine disaster without totally losing face and without causing a nuclear war is a good White House scandal.
Pro Wrestling on all sides. All short term means, all short term ends. A Russia doing what it “can do”. And that is as brilliant as can be expected from the underdog [Russia]. Journalism, journalists [telling example: Alexander Mercouris et al. sucking up to the established names and conventions, leads and terminology to make their misery arguments to the contrary] leading by their own ignorance into predictable ignorant and passive public responses [i am convinced that the simple message is the only one that is consumable anyhow, so it does not matter]. The accent on passive. The new normal across the globe. No single player having any ambition and appetite for progress. A people’s world, elephants in mini-skirts, teckles [short legged dogs] on high heels, not a world of ideas or ambitions. A planet sold out. The Jew at the top? Look at the picture, who else [Hersh?]. It is the Jewish mindset of shapes and colors, interior decoration, architecture all over the board, from Moskva to Washington and back over the Pacific to Paris and Brussels. It is the tools, they are scaled to disproportionate impact, it’s the brains as bird-like as ever. Medieval period in history, Bruegel and his glorious human landscapes were way more colorful without the pyrotechnics.
Point made: P. E. sees composure Russia, sees advantage Russia, we do not, we see a poker game between factions of Few and the further domestication of the masses. A minor difference. Not worth mentioning. Not of any meaning [it is what it is, come time, and empirical probing as ongoing and finally the Few will get it, and find more intelligible, predictable, sustainable, selective/discriminate ways of herding, and culling the “Negro” of the first, second and third world]. For now, from localized overload, the planet is going to containment of a single bulging, flabby, and now obese human blob].
The driving factor of the above: the tools and the scaling of their impact has outgrown for now any intelligible thought-experiments, ideas, lab-conditioning. Truck-drivers, and construction workers, pan-handlers, ravens looking for bling, rule the world.
Look-up
anti-spiegel.ru
by Thomas Röper (a german journalist living in Russia)
He states, that he received whistleblower information some months ago, but decided not to publish that information, because he could not independently confirm it. The information fits perfectly into Hershs report. Thomas Röper gives some crucial information beyond what Hersh presented.
China saw this coming a long time ago. Right after China bailed out US from the 2008 financial crisis, it thought Obama would work with China. Instead, just a figurehead of the neocons, Obama, prolific community organizer, started his Pivot to Asia. To contain China. It was also the time when the US started to support terrorist acts in Xinjiang to stir up sh4t. That was the turning point. The neolibs/cons will not play fair. Putin knows now.
Xi came into power right after that. China started to prepare for the coming decoupling. It started to build up its military, sped up its technology self reliance, built alliances outside US’s circle of influence. I am sure at that time, China also started to modernize and stockpile its nuclear weapons. I will not be surprised if China now has more than a 1000 nuclear warheads. Beginning in 2012, Kazakhstan, the 2nd largest uranium reserve in the world, increased its uranium export to China by 100th fold. At the same time China also started to gradually decouple from the US financial system. It was also the start of China-Russia joint military exercises. At the same time the construction of the “Power of Siberia” pipeline started. It came online in 2019. When Trump got elected, China and Russia were hoping for a fresh start with the US. Even with Trump’s tariffs, China was hopeful that Trump can work with China to come to a win-win solution. Then came Biden who doubled down. That was it.
Before Russia invaded Ukraine, I am sure Putin briefed Xi about it at the Beijing Olympics and confirmed that China will not side with the US and China will buy more of Russia’s petroleum and gas. Two more pipelines are in the works.
Sy Hersh’s blog is very significant. With the internet and social media, unrestricted information flow, the US is now officially a rogue country in the eyes of the world. Biden, Sullivan, Blinken, Nuland and cohorts should be arrested for treason and act of terror. Then again, it is kind of late. Arica, South America and much of the Global South are no longer taking the US seriously.
You needn’t lose any sleep over it Mudge.
No entity (or collective of entities) on the planet has the ability to seriously weaken Russia (unless China flips and aligns itself with the dark side – and that’s not going to happen until hell freezes over).
Everything that has transpired during this proxy war has strengthened Russia, and demonstrably weakened the Anglo Zionist empire.
Of course, ZOG’s fortunes are tied to the fortunes of the double-headed hydra (U.S and U.K), so the demise of these two pariah states (economic implosion and subsequent carnage in the stock/bond and real estate markets of said countries), will mean the demise of ZOG.
Barring escalation into a nuclear conflagration (exceedingly unlikely), things will end much better (for the world) than you imagined.
Not such a good prognosis for the U.S and U.K though, as both descend into the abyss.
Ultimately history shows that our actions – and consequences – are not of our choosing.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
Joe Biden, moronic as he is, gave away the game before the first inning was played. He said openly that the Nordstrom pipeline would never become operational. However, the willfully gullible U.S. media never made a point of that.
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Funny (though not for the lucky player), but a U.S. ‘billion’ viewers worldwide? I really doubt it, very few people outside the U.S. (and perhaps Canada, since they have a similar deformed version of Rugby football) have any interest, and I read that TV ratings in the U.S.A. itself plummet year by year lately.
A thousand million viewers worldwide? No way. You must be joking.
That should be Nord Stream pipelines. I was using the mic instead typing.
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I dunno, Nordstream 2 would’ve made some serious moolah for Russian and European companies and governments, and when the Swiss company that was under contract to finish it pulled out due to threats of ever greater U.S. sanctions, the Russians finished it at considerable expense, gambling that the Germans would license it and turn it on.
That’s the point where they could laugh, as you say, watching the idiot Europeans bicker and fight among themselves about whether to open the spigots or to bend over for a reaming by the U.S..
Now the Russians must indeed be rolling in the aisles in disbelief after the U.S., in an audacious and idiotic act of destruction, puts a few more nails in its own coffin. It couldn’t happen to a nicer Hegemon.
To me, NFL football is like professional wrestling…all contrived. This year’s big deal in the Super Bowl is to pit two black quarterbacks against each other.
My question is, why would anyone lend any credence to what the Terrorist Jewish Supremacist Naftali Bennett has to say. If a Zionist Jew is moving his lips , he is lying.
Google “Victoria Nuland” and the “PNAC Kagan Family”
Neocon MONSTERS that control “our” foreign policy and many are not even Americans.
They are responsible for all the fake wars we have been in.
The lied us into Iraq and four thousand American soldiers died.
Now they have us in Syria, Libya, Lebanon and Yemen.
What can Russia do in the face of neocon aggression with its Jewish victimhood model? Not much, unless it wants a tit for tat response from the Washington hoodlums … of course, there’s one thing the Bear can do, so long as it’s willing to lay down its own life … commence the nuclear Armageddon at once … the tikkun olam crowd wouldn’t know what hit them in the bagel hole!
LMAO
Scratch one Chinese / Korean nylon balloon worth… $2,000 maybe ? And scratch one US Sidewinder missile – $50,000 – $100,ooo ?
Cheap fun game for China.
Looks something like post-modern BS might look [me no expert] – but whatever, nonsensical with it.
The psychopathic tyrants who rule over ‘the West’ require *root and branch* extermination – oh! Only and as usual, IMHO. rgds
Russia should ask China to annex Russia, and China should accept the merger. Mutually beneficial (natural resources in exchange for arms and anti-US economic leverage), and the only way to stop the insane rogue. This will happen in effect anyway, in dribs and drabs; they might as well just formalize it now.
Exactly.
If the Super Bowl cardio-faceplant-in-the-Astroturf happens, the videos uploaded to Twitter, etc will break the internets.
Did you “have a dream” too? Paradise. No NFL, no NBA , no ..
AIM-9 Sidewinder
Unit cost US$381,069.74 (Block II) US$399,500.00 (Block II Plus) US$209,492.75 (training missile) (All as in 2019)
Produced 1953-present
Specifications
Mass 188 pounds (85.3 k
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Pasted from Gargoyle search.
And there’s no explanation of why one of the sections of Nord Stream 2 escaped intact.
US incompetence should not be underestimated
Hey, that’s no dream – you could try turning all the TVs [one or more per room?] off, then making sure by cutting the all power-plugs off. Not only frees your brains, but saves power, too! rgds
Pepe,
You may be wrong that Norway does not have any operations P-8 Poseidon airplanes. Five were on order. The first one was delivered on November 18, 2021.
See the link below. It includes a photo of the first airplane in Norwegian livery with the inscription, “Royal Norwegian Air Force”, on the side of the plane. The bay doors designed for the P-8 to drop buoys are open in the photo.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/11/boeing-delivers-first-p-8a-poseidon-mpa-to-norway/
I remember a scene of the 1983 ABC’s film The Day After, a full crowded stadium on a NFL game (Super Bowl may be?) and dozens of nuclear charged missiles flying above producing mushrooms all over the place.
Perhaps not at this Super Bowl Sunday but at the next year’s one humanity might watch the last one as a closing Grand Finale of our existence on this planet.
US and other countries inside the Zion Curtain now operate on gangsterism.
You know how ‘protection’ money works with gangsters. Gangsters say they offer ‘protection’ and so, it’s good for you to pay…. except the so-called ‘protection’ is from their violence. It’s really an extortion racket. You gotta do what they demand to be ‘protected’ from them.
Supremite(or Supremacist-Semite) US works the same way. If you want the ‘protection’ of NATO, you better do as NATO demands…. or else it’s BLAM.
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Perhaps, things need not have gotten this bad IF Wasps held the power with Jews or at least acted as the opposition(much like Jews once did when they were looking up at the Wasps). But Jews took over and Wasp brown-nosers totally caved, and the West is now the JeWest that is in total gangsterist mode. It’s like living in an empire of Hyman Roth. Actually worse. Roth was lots of things but still had a kind of wisdom and appreciated ‘respect’.
The current rulers are like Jewish spoiled brats who want all the toys and candy.
And whites are utterly worthless as cuck-maggot dogs of Jews. Just look at Samantha Powers, whore of Zion.
But what is the main obsession of white conzos? LOOK, A CHINEE BALLOON!
Right said
PNAC is now the Institute for the Study of War.Same members and same childrens holding same positions ,and housed in the same address.
Old Syrian terrorist organization renamed itself same time from -Jihad – Al -Majad-Al -Americana to Al – Ghar-Moroccana.
The terrorists are the unholy trinity of the ZUS and ZBritain and ZIsrael, creators of wars and terrorists ie AL-CIADA and ISIS and all off shoots there of. The real terrorists wear suits and live in NYC and DC and London and Tel Aviv and Paris, and they have set the world up for a nuclear war which they intend to survive in their DUMBs aka deep underground military bunkers which they have throughout the ZUS, ZEU and Israel.
This nuclear war will be a win , win for the terrorists as they will kill millions and perhaps billions and this will advance their depopulation of the planet, in addition to the covid-19 hoax and psyop, which is not killing enough, so the nukes will take care of the rest of we useless eaters.
These terrorists are straight from the depths of hell.
For sure PF, but at least if you pay the mafia for protection you get protection from competing criminals. If someone robbed you, the wise guys found out who & “convinced” them of their error, sometimes even returning a portion of the stolen loot (minus a finders fee of course). Can’t say the same for our government protectors, they show up, take notes & file a form for you to make an insurance claim. No incentive to actually find the stolen property.
The Sidewinder is a heat seeking missile. Probably a Sparrow. A radar guided missile. $125,000 each.
Look at Blinken’s eyes. Empty. I think he sold his soul to the devil. Or possessed by Satan himself.
JeWest is a thoroughly evil place. Jews are now making Hitler seem like a humanitarian, and whites are just brown-nosing cuck maggots without spines and balls who exist only to appease Jewish madness.
Oct 7, 2022 21 Years of the Global War on Terror
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December 3, 2018 The Bin Ladens and the Bushes: On 9/11 George Herbert W. Bush Meets Osama’s Brother Shafiq bin Laden
Lest we forget, one day before the 9/11attacks [as well as on the morning of 9/11, the dad of the sitting President of the United States of America, George Herbert Walker Bush was meeting none other than Shafiq bin Laden, the brother of the alleged terror mastermind Osama bin Laden.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bin-ladens-the-bushes-and-911-a-former-us-president-meets-osamas-brother-not-subject-to-anti-terrorism-legislation/5582436
It won’t take any time at all, because as Escobar already knows, it’s the “Jews”/Cousinhood out of the City of London (which Putin has already let be known would be among the first targets in a nuclear war). The same “Jews”/Cousinhood that has been pulling strings in the Anglosphere in the (fake, plastic, ZOG-infected) “Modern Age” forever.
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2022/01/29/free-to-cheat-jewish-emancipation-and-the-anglo-jewish-cousinhood
LOL. Even the insane Israeli “Jew” poseurs are trying to distance themselves from these even more insane Anglosphere “Jew/Judeo-Christian/liberal” method actors and ZOG killers, as epitomized by the neocons/neolibs and their stooges.
Why so coy, Escobar? Everyone of a certain IQ knows what’s going on here. Are you doing journalism, or like ((Hersh)), are you practicing ideological stagecraft?
Is there really anything such as an “objective” journalist anymore? Was there ever? I have my doubts.
The only thing I know to a certainty anymore is that ZOG must be taken down, by hook or by crook.
What Brazilian Pepe Escobar did not write is it is the 2000-year-old historic Christian trait of cutting your nose to spite your face.
White greedy Christians of North America and Western Europe constantly change their political labels such as Green Party, Orange Party, Yellow Party or Redneck Party, but behave essentially the same time after time.
What is German Green Party’s modus operandi?
Fly in private jets, burn coal for electricity production (since electricity generation from Sunlight and wind-turbines is not predictable), force people to eat vegetarian food whether one likes or not, and start eating insects and worms!
https://www.influencewatch.org/for-profit/pine-island-capital-partners/
there is nothing “about” (((Blinken)))’s eyes.
It’s a Jew, hence genetically
satanic.
Russia will do nothing.
Russia can do nothing.
Yes, Rand Paul may be an above average Senator in that devil’s den, but he sure isn’t his father. Any hope from Congress lies with the populist Republicans in the House. On Thursday Matt Gaetz introduced a resolution with 10 GOP co-sponsors that “calls for an immediate end to US military and, financial support for Ukraine,” (Antiwar.com 2-9-23). Who knows, maybe opposition to the war will grow, as it did during the Vietnam War. But back then there was an unpopular draft with many soldiers coming back in body bags each week, and it still took several years for opposition to reach a critical mass. We don’t have that kind of time now.
Hersh is 85 years’ of age. Let us go back to the origins of the war,
Yanukovich was told by then EU it was either or and he balked But he was overthrown.
Opposition to the Vietnam War only started picking up when the US tried to recruit / draft college students. Since college educated students are more intelligent, they refused and started the mass protest. Whereas the initial draft were mostly young, poor, uneducated young men who weren’t smart enough to resist and went willingly as cannon fodders.
Biden vs Putin..
https://youtube.com/shorts/0uAY4ZqIG18?feature=share
I see no point in planning to cope with a nuclear war, so I don’t really consider the possibility of nuclear war, things are adequately bad already.
Whites here mostly fall in line with western narrative, or they vaguely remember the Soviet Union when they hear the word Russia. Some do know about the Ukrainian civil war, there is some alternative media.
South Africa is part of BRICS but I have zero confidence in our government’s ability to effectively negotiate a fair deal. We make them slow and corrupt here.
There are a number of details in Seymour Hersh’s story that make no sense given publicly known technology in 2022 – see detailed analysis at link below.
In particular, the claim that a sonobuoy had to be laboriously air-dropped into the Baltic to transmit the trigger signal to the pre-installed explosive packs seems dubious. Allegedly this was necessary to ensure that a random underwater noise did not trigger the explosives.
Underwater communication systems using sound, with sophisticated and solid error correction algorithms built in, have been commercially available for many years, and millitary models are no doubt even more sophisticated and custom-made for just this type of operation after decades of ongoing development in response to military and commercial demand, e.g. for deep-sea oil drilling. Frankly, it seems that Hersh got creative and ended up over-egging the pudding.
A number of other details seem inconsistent with publicly available information. For example, Norway’s P-8 are operated by the Norwegian Air Force, not its Navy, and did not enter service until after the NS explosion. Indeed, why involve the Norwegians at all in a super-secret operation? Norway is not a Baltic country, nor is there any need to drop a sonobuoy from a highly visible military airplane, rather than quietly e.g. from a fishing boat. There was plenty of lead time and currents in the Baltic are quite predictable. The only real reason to involve Norway (and other Nato countries such as the UK and Poland) would be to create a quorum of collaborators.
Politically, the effect of Hersh’s piece is to take the pressure off American vassals who were likely involved, including the UK, Poland, Denmark, and zombie-controlled Germany itself. That may be the real aim of the new story. It is quite conceivable that Hersh became an unwitting or witting conduit for yet another propaganda operation.
When faced with murky situations like this, it is often useful to consider an ancillary question: Which countries must know what happened, and who did it? Given known intelligence (sigint and humint) capabilities, at a minimum the following know exactly what happened: U.S., UK, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Poland, Russia.
LINK: https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe
It’s very important as luxemsuckers that we fully support our us empire overlords. As typical eu vassals, we all need to do our part and shower 1x a week, shut off all lights and put on many sweaters. Also we must all listen to our “news” bc they are here to help us, that’s what van der lying says. Who cares if the USians blew up the pipeline—we love the us and follow whatever their narrative is. We love that they militarily occupy countries. We are happy eating excrement . Go Germany land the 51st state and Suckesembourg! Vassal strong!
Seymour Hersh’s article is a blatant attempt by the Jewish Tribe Mafia to force Biden from office.
The USA has been supporting terrorists throughout China almost since 1949. The Chinese are not dullards. They know their own history. They know who and what the Western powers are. They know that the USA is the most aggressively belligerent monster regime in all history, run by psychopaths among which race hatred is a religion, particularly of the Chinese.
Ever since China surpassed the USA as an economy in PPP terms, c.2014, the USA’s preparations for war have intensified, as has the HATRED spewed at China, 24/7, throughout the West and in the genocidal, colonialist, ‘Five Eyes’ Anglosphere racist regimes in particular. The Chinese are ready, and more ready by the day. They will not cross the Pacific to attack the USA. They will defend their country in ways that the USA can only guess at, and, following Sun Zi, they will attempt to win without fighting. The Evil monster in Hades on the Potomac has bitten off more that it can chew, this time.
Yankee mass hysteria-PRICELESS.
The troll with its habitual apologia for fascist coups. What a moral beacon it is. Quoting an Imperial sewer, Reuters, report, stuffed full of the usual ‘sources say’, ALL anonymous and unverifiable and probably invented. Yanukovick baulked when the EU’s vicious terms that would have plunged Ukraine, particularly the East further into misery were made plain. And Russia was NOT ‘Ukraine’s master’ (pure Banderite bullshit)-the two were joined together as one for hundreds of years! Your usual filth.
Hey! Back in 1991 the beeffalo bills football playoff game was live broadcast on a sunday whilst thou wazz in Colombia..
A all ‘commercial’ breaks the last moment of the last play was frozen on the tv screen until the game resumed; noo ‘commercials’ at all. This was the norm there for years.
I disagree with the “what will Russia do”. It is the same with Iran or Iraq or Syria or Cuba. How much punishment can they take from us and Israel and Britain? The Saudi’s did 9/11 as an anti Zionist revenge attack…the Palestinians have launched multiple attacks on Foreign places since the 50s, Ireland has attacked Britain, the Red Brigades in Italy, and the FLQ in Canada but Iran and Russia and Cuba and Iraq just take it….are they afraid? That is the simple answer…
I don’t know what the point is to relativize Hersh’s text. Everyone agrees that the US (Pentagon and/orCIA) organized that explosion with the knowledge of Biden. It is known that someone from the Baltics assisted in this. What difference does it make if the Norwegians did it and the Poles gave them jet fuel or vice versa?
What untrue message does Hersh want to convey? Does it fundamentally change anything in the whole story if it is established that something was thrown from a boat and not from a plane. What is the significance of this or that box being thrown into the water? The relativization of Hersh’s text is an attempt to create confusion, which is an old recipe for muddling through the whole thing instead of getting to the point.
The EU/NATO suckers… giving whole new meaning to the word ‘chillidog’.
The Norwegian pipeline construction and maintenance would be a good cover for having Norwegian divers lurking around the area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe
Today the LGBTQ USA distracts itself with another episode of the Black/Jewish alliance called the Super Bowl. Old enough to remember an American nation that celebrated Lincoln’s Birthday on February 12.
Exactly. Get to the point. The War in Ukraine is beginning to look like an excuse to blow up the pipelines. Not the other way around.
Similar to the way that the vax was not a response to the virus, but the virus was a pretext for the vax.
It would seem that more than Norway and US are involved. The complete picture has yet to emerge. it might take another patriotic Deep Throat to make the wall of silence fall. I for one, can’t wait.
“Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” was a useful maxim developed by an earlier civilization during a period when it was still going strong.
Why is Hersh spouting off about technical details that are obviously fictitious and could have been verified through simple enquiries, but were not? Either Hersh was fed this information and did not check it, or Hersh himself is fabulating. In either case: what else is Hersh fabulating about that may be less readily detected by outsiders? Hersh’s error/falsehood puts us on notice that there is something squirrely going on.
No doubt the U.S. “organized” the explosions. But if “everyone agrees” on this already, what exactly does Hersh’s great disclosure add to our knowledge? The real objective of Hersh publishing his piece at this time – creating his own Substack account for this purpose – is to (1) distract from likely involvement by the UK, Poland and possibly Germany itself in the planning and execution of the action, and (2) conversely, to drag in Norway.
Norway obviously stands to gain financially from becoming a virtual monopoly supplier of non-LPG natural gas to Western Europe, and in fact opened a pipeline to Germany almost simultaneously with the demise of NS 1 and NS 2. For Norway to take an active part in sabotaging a pipeline supplying its most important European NATO partner seems inconsistent with Norway’s traditionally low-key stance. On the other hand, Norway could have been inveigled into participation by a cabal made up of warmongers in Oslo in cahoots with Germany’s genocidal Green’s and their trans-Atlantic sponsors.
Is the personal “knowledge of Biden” even ascertainable at this point?
Nice try, but Norway is still not a Baltic country. On the other hand, alone among the old NATO members, Norway has an actual land border with Russia, which traditionally has encouraged caution in international affairs while maintaining strong NATO ties.
Nice try at misdirection – why are you suddenly introducing jet fuel as a red herring? Or is this an unintentional slip?
Yes. It betrays falsehood in a key detail
Again, “falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.” Look it up.
You tell me. Hersh himself decided to give great play to this detail. WHY?
“Relativization”? In other words, “nothing to see here, move on, move on!” Got it. Let’s not look at what happened, just recite the sacred narrative.
If YOU keep “voting” for these DC VERMIN….(both parties)…..
YOU are ultimately to blame for EVERYTHING.
You’ll know its game, set and match….
when the blacks get 5 MILLION each for “reparations”……
and it costs 100K for a hot dog.
CORRECTED FORMATTING:
YES. It betrays falsehood in a key detail that Hersh treated as important.
OBSERVATION: The cumbersome insertion of a Norwegian P-8 into the story serves to implicate Norway. The country otherwise would be well outside the range of Baltic suspects.
Trans-Alaska pipeline is a better choice for tit-for-tat. No one dies but will have an economic impact.
Yanukovich was out for getting Ukraine the best deal possible and seeing that it was likely to go over to the West via an economic deal with the EU that had military cooperation conditions attached Putin offered Ukaine a great deal, which Russia gas was a big part of, that is why Yanukovich changed his mind. However, Yanukovich found that Ukraine (steered by the loud nationalist in it) did not want to be with Russia any more, and he was ousted.
Following all this Russia decided to bypass Ukraine with the NordStream 2 pipeline, which would enable cutting off gas supplies to Ukraine (NordStream2 been completed but not came on line when the war started), while still supplying Germany. Ukraine hated Nordstream2. The point is that once Putin decided on a full scale military action in Ukraine, and turned off the gas supply to Germany, the Germans were not going to be customers for direct supply of Russian gas, certainly not while Putin remained in the Kremlin.
In my opinion, Putin decided that having the pipeline there would tempt his successors into cooperating with the West in the hopes of restarting the gas trade. So he decided to destroy it. That is far more likely than the US doing it . The idea Biden okayed NS2 as a cover story to later blow it up is silly. America defends Germany for free, so Germany has to do what it is told. And I am afraid Putin said the other day at a televised security conference that it was Ukraine who destroyed the NordStream 2 pipeline.
Great opening sentence.
Hersh being used, describing the CIA as dithering and letting MI6 off the hook? High time to read Hersh’s original piece, provided a version can be found that hasn’t been tampered with.
Did I try to hide something? I had a couple of good tries? I think that there attempt to hide essence by some technicalities. I agree with Ron’s points just published in his new text. I and almost everyone else know who carried out the explosion, but it is much more important if SH asserts and support this, and not some Eagle Eye out there. My mind is open. I am ready to accept any reasoned suggestion about what SH wanted to obscure. So, the microphone is yours. I’m all ears.
Oh, oh, ah, my eagle eyes
My, my, my eagle eyes
Marching down the street in my lightning feet
And the shine’s too fine to be real
Fake it so I care for the glisten and the glare
And now it’s something I’m starting to feel
Those :”He Gets Us ” ads were off the edge —-“He has Given Up”–more apt ((( the Us is short for USA—John Hagee proud–Jews at attention–Barrabas is the man !!! )))
That’s a good idea, so as not to take human life, though some maintenance and security workers could die.. Hmm…since the pipeline is above ground it could too easily be repaired.
Maybe they could start with the most downstream Columbia and Snake River dams and work their way up, and call it life affirming, as a salmon run restoration project…no, too destructive and there are all those Hanford waste storage tanks close to the river…well, I’m stuck!
Death and destruction go hand-in-hand, it seems. Guess I’d best pray for peace and wonder if “Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord” applies to those who perpetrate unprovoked industrial terrorism.
I’m from that era and left college (which I hated) to join the army after they changed to the “birthday” lottery in 1970 and I received a low draft number, though I could have kept my 2-S deferment until I graduated. In basic training there were many college grads in my company who were drafted. They lost their student deferments after they graduated, which was the policy all along.
The change to the birthday draft in 1970 had nothing to do with increasing mass protests, which began in earnest when Johnson was president. In fact, when the draft was ended in 1972 (under Nixon) and they switched to the current all-volunteer army, the protests dissipated dramatically even though the war was still going on. I’m not aware of any evidence which proves that college educated students were more likely to protest and refuse to be drafted than those who didn’t go to college.
Check this out.
https://depts.washington.edu/antiwar/vietnam_student.shtml#:~:text=In%20March%20of%201969%2C%20over,small%20players’%20strike%20in%20December.
https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-protests
“Hersh being used, describing the CIA as dithering and letting MI6 off the hook? High time to read Hersh’s original piece, provided a version can be found that hasn’t been tampered with.”
That’s what i wrote before i read the piece, and i understand that this is it: https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
If it is and if it isn’t edited in any way, then i agree 100% with Pepe Escobar. It pretends to be hot curry, but it has more characteristics of milk rice pudding. It’s mild on Washington and it paints Putin as the culprit. It’s pro-US. Tom Clancy could have written it. In other comments i lauded the effort, but i may have been too positive.
Ukraine had been part of Russia/USSR for centuries. Under the USSR eastern Ukrainian industry was tied, body and soul, to Russia. The EU’s DEMAND to break with Russia was a deliberate provocation, when Yanukovich wanted Ukraine to be intermediary between the EU and Eurasia ie Russia et al. The EU’s vicious austerity measures would have afflicted the east, Yanukovich’s majority power-base, as well. As I said, deliberate, as Euro CIA ‘assets’ like Bildt and Sikorski helped prepare and train the fascists for the Maidan Colour Revolution.
Once again you make apologies for a fascist putsch, organised by the USA against a democratically elected President, one who had agreed with treacherous EU diplo-thugs, to have early elections. Your CIA-prepared and controlled Banderite fascist darlings were having none of that, so organised sniper killings from Banderite occupied buildings around the Maidan and then a concerted effort to murder Yanukovich, so he fled.
Your ‘Ukraine’ is the fascist West, and they LOST the Presidential election to Yanukovich, which is why, after the fascist putsch, Crimea broke away, democratically, as it had been trying to do since it was Anschlussed in 91, and why the Donbass defended itself against your fascist friends, and kicked their arses at Debeltsavo. Your ‘theory’ as to why Putin destroyed Nordstream is sub-moronic shite, but I suppose your controllers demanded something more than usually febrile for your latest cheque. At least your new ‘bestie’ the Wizz will be ecstatic.
Is objective journalism another illusion?
“Objective Journalism” is a projected word spin (in hope & despair?):
Is the journalist not the subject(ive) viewer reporting (time scripting & projecting) about object(s) / (proprietors/properties)?
If so, the subject naturally possesses the quality of subjectivity, otherwise it would not be able to report about object(s) and/or objection(s).
Every journalism is the mingling of subject with the object. “Objective journalism” is the building housing journalists. Out of such a building subjects project all sorts of subjective views on objects.
Since everything dies, there can never be objectivity, (because the object is dying too).
America defends Germany for free.
Amazing Grace; hallelujah – what a hogwash.
Please – p l e a s e – read the above comment nr. 46 from the Priss Factor:
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/the-war-of-terror-of-a-rogue-superpower-cui-bono/#comment-5810482
“ No doubt the U.S. “organized” the explosions. But if “everyone agrees” on this already, what exactly does Hersh’s great disclosure add to our knowledge?”
It adds to the awareness how powerless and impotent that sheeple – domestic and abroad are .
It just reiterates the fact that people may not believe in God but they definitely propitiate Devil out of fear which they call democracy and freedom .
It captures the theme of the sayings – King has no clothes .
I fail to see how such tactics could work with Germany. Anyway, they did not because Germany :-
1 Refused to have Ukraine join Nato in 2008
2 In 2011 brought into operation the NordStream1 pipeline bypassing the Ukrainian network that was the conduit for Russian gas from being sold for good prices to countries in the West, and thus gave Ukraine some leverage against Russia. Being direct from Russia to Germany without crossing countries like Poland it took the potential complete lock those countries had possessed over the Russia Germany energy trade and had used to get good deals on gas from Russia.
3I In 2021 Germany completed a second pipeline the NordStream2 pipeline, which doubled the gas they got from Russia.
In the article Escobar says:-
The German strategy was to deindustrialise the other countries of Western Europe by means of the EU single currency making their goods cheaper than they otherwise would have been with Germany’s high cost labour. The energy came from Russia so was cheap too. Germany was also doing great business supplying capital goods to China, which is why Biden dropped his opposition to NordStream 2 coming on line (the US needed Germany to help pressure China, America’s real competitor).
Germany has a subliminal fear of all things nuclear as a hold over from the Cold War. Their phase- out of civil nuclear power was not Green at all, it was deep seated loathing of anything that could lead to Germany having thermonuclear weapons. The proof of this is that Germany is producing more greenhouses gases as a result. There are also defended out of the pocket of US taxpayers while entirely cocooned within the borders of friendly countries for the first time in their history. Germany deindustrialises the West two ways: by selling capital goods to China. and via the EU single market and currency area. America ought to have told tell subtle mercantilist and blatant freeloader Germany to defend itself and suggest they get nuclear weapons to do it. The Ukraine would not have been having all these troubles if it had its own nuclear weapons to rely on instead of worthless ‘guarantees’ from Nato countries and Russia.
America is not going to make money from selling energy to Germany because American shale energy is heavily in debt and unprofitable when sold at prices that would enable Germany to continue with its manufacturing exports strategy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbTr6LgefHA
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“it’s easy for someone like me to understand how he uses anonymous sources and how he accesses”
Because you’re a state asset as well. Just for the other side you moaning hypocrite.
” Arguably the whole planet is thinking what will be the Russian response”
Nope, no one but political obsessives care.
Cui bono?
Jui bono!